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Trump’s 20-Point Peace Plan | Mark Hitchcock | The Week in Bible Prophecy · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast this week, everyone, I am sitting
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  Speaker 2: here with doctor Mark Hitchcock.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome Mark, Thank you, great to be with you.
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  Speaker 2: And we're going to be discussing really a lot of
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  Speaker 2: things been going on as it relates to Israel and
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  Speaker 2: the Trump Peace Plan, the twenty Point Plan, and so
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  Speaker 2: we're going to kind of unpack a lot of that today.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to start off right here at the
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  Speaker 2: beginning because we're going to be talking about not only
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  Speaker 2: Israel present, but also their future. And I'll read you
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  Speaker 2: a quote which I find fascinating from nineteen twenty. This
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  Speaker 2: is from Clarence Lark in a book and he's talking
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  Speaker 2: it as well about the history of Israel and the
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  Speaker 2: future of Israel. And he says this, if it were
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  Speaker 2: suggested that we discuss the future of any other nation
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  Speaker 2: than the Jewish nation, I for one, would not attempt it,
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  Speaker 2: for the task would be simply a speculative one based
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  Speaker 2: on probabilities that would be likely to be upset by
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  Speaker 2: unforeseen circumstances. But the Jewish nation has the unique distinction
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  Speaker 2: of having for its historian the Holy Spirit who has
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  Speaker 2: not simply recorded the past history of that nation, but
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  Speaker 2: has outlined its future. We indulge, then in no idle
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  Speaker 2: and profitless speculations when we attempt to forecast the future
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  Speaker 2: of the Jewish people. All we have to do is
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  Speaker 2: to gather together in place in their logical order what
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  Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit, through the Prophets has foretold of their future.
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  Speaker 2: The method is as simple as the result is. Sure,
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  Speaker 2: just your thoughts on that very I think a powerful
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  Speaker 2: statement from nineteen twenty.
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  Speaker 1: I love the way people wrote back then. It's very eloquent,
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  Speaker 1: a little more formally stated. Yeah, it's a great statement.
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  Speaker 1: Now do you think there are a few other nations
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  Speaker 1: in the Bible we can know a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: from the prophets as well, but nothing like what we
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  Speaker 1: know about Israel, Because obviously Israel is God's time piece.
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  Speaker 1: God's made promises to them in covenance with the Us,
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  Speaker 1: the Abraham, the David, and so we know what Israel's
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  Speaker 1: future is going to be at least in a panorama
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  Speaker 1: or in a sketch, and really a lot of very
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  Speaker 1: specific details about what's going to happen in Israel. So
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  Speaker 1: I love that, Yeah, you go, most other nations. You
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  Speaker 1: just start talking about well, like you know, people ask
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  Speaker 1: about American Bible prophecies, and we can give some thoughts
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  Speaker 1: about that of some different plausible scenarios that can take place,
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  Speaker 1: but what it gets down to and we have to say,
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  Speaker 1: we can't say for sure, but we can with Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you look at it's interesting in the Book
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  Speaker 2: of Isaiah that God I think it's millennial, but it
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  Speaker 2: talks about uh. He uses the language which is kind
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  Speaker 2: of unique. He says, you know, my people. So Assyria
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  Speaker 2: is going to be my people, Egypt's going to be
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  Speaker 2: my people, and of course Israel's going to be my people.
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  Speaker 2: So it's interesting that that moniker is kind of at
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  Speaker 2: least in the future millennial period, it seems to be
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  Speaker 2: anyway is going to be used for those nations. They're
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  Speaker 2: going to have some level of restoration.
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  Speaker 1: There'd be a holy highway between there. Yeah, that God's
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  Speaker 1: going to make Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: And so the one of the things I want to
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  Speaker 2: do is uh is as we think about this idea
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  Speaker 2: of Okay, well, let me let me ask you another
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  Speaker 2: question just historically before we move forward, is you know,
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  Speaker 2: fast forward, let's say two years ago, maybe October fifth
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  Speaker 2: before we know, October seventh of twenty three and all
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  Speaker 2: that happened. You know, of course you've been falling prophecy
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  Speaker 2: for a long time and in Israel and other things. Well,
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  Speaker 2: what's your sense as a prophecy teacher? Did anybody foresee
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  Speaker 2: from October fifth to now? You know, the the removal
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  Speaker 2: of Asad in Syria, you know, the basically the humbling
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  Speaker 2: of Iran and hezbe Llah and all these kind of
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  Speaker 2: the changes that have taken place in the Middle East
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  Speaker 2: in the last two years. I don't I fallow prophecy
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  Speaker 2: for thirty years, and I don't remember anybody really predicting that.
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  Speaker 3: So we have this causes us to be humble, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Not? Sure? Does well? I always say about prophets, we
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of these things that are going to
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  Speaker 1: happen in the future. We know there's going to be
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be peace in Israel. The Bible tells
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  Speaker 1: us that we know there's going to be a rebuilt temple.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of things we know. One of my
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  Speaker 1: phrases I use all the time when I'm teaching is
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  Speaker 1: there are going to be a lot of twists and turns.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, there's a lot of twists and turns,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes things happen like October seventh of twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: three that I call like a prophetic shift of gears.
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  Speaker 1: There's something you went to, a totally new gear really
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  Speaker 1: in prophecy, where things are accelerated dramatically. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that the greatest prophetic shift of gears will take place
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  Speaker 1: when the Rapture occurs. Yes, you know, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things we look at now I wonder, well, how
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  Speaker 1: could this happen? How could that happen? The rapture is
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  Speaker 1: going to be a massive game changer in our world,
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  Speaker 1: and all kinds of future stage setting and fulfillment can
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  Speaker 1: take place after the rapture. So these events happen. Nine
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  Speaker 1: to eleven I think was an event like that. I
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  Speaker 1: think October seventh was an event like that. And so
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  Speaker 1: we we see things that are happening in our world
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  Speaker 1: today that we couldn't have dreamed would come together the
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  Speaker 1: way they are. You know, all these proxies of Iran,
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  Speaker 1: yes basically have been you know, totally totally disarmed basically,
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  Speaker 1: I mean they still have arms there, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: they've been totally derailed, and Iran now is you know,
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  Speaker 1: very very weak and their power and now there's still
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's there's four hundred kilograms of you know,
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  Speaker 1: nuclear material there that they're they're messing with. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just these these things take place and there,
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  Speaker 1: and there can be other things like this as well
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  Speaker 1: that will occur that we don't know about. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The the big thing for me is, you know, obviously
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  Speaker 2: we have, like we say, seventy weeks of Daniel, which
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about in EXeCO thirty eight, and those are solid.
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  Speaker 2: But yet how it goes from here to there? You know,
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  Speaker 2: we have to keep keep all these things loose because
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  Speaker 2: and again because if we become dogmatic on them, I
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  Speaker 2: think we're gonna end up being humbled and we'll have
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  Speaker 2: mud on our face. But one of the things I
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  Speaker 2: want to ask is, so if we look from right now, how.
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  Speaker 3: The when we look at.
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  Speaker 2: Israel, Israel's obviously in a position of authority of Trump's
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  Speaker 2: in so that's kind of modified some things in the
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  Speaker 2: certainly all throughout the Middle East, we have the basically
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  Speaker 2: the Abrahamic Accords that are in the shadows. We saw
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  Speaker 2: that going back to Trump's first administration, and the rumor
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  Speaker 2: was that the building up really in the summer of
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  Speaker 2: twenty three, that Saudi Arabia and a few others were
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  Speaker 2: getting ready to jump into the Abraham Accords without solving
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  Speaker 2: the Palestinian issue. And therefore, at least I've heard this
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  Speaker 2: directly from Hamas that they did this in order to
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  Speaker 2: create sympathy on their behalf becausey knew Israel would have
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  Speaker 2: to respond, and then of course that that response would
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  Speaker 2: then push Saudi Arabia away and it would it would
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  Speaker 2: recenterize the Palestinian state issue. Talk about that, any any
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on that as it relates to where we're at
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  Speaker 2: now and has it's brought up to our current situation
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  Speaker 2: because Saudi arabi is back in the mix a little bit, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think Iran did it certainly to
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  Speaker 1: sabotage what was happening there. They saw that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that Saudi Arabia is going to you know, get get
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  Speaker 1: in normalized relationship relations with Israel. So I think it
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  Speaker 1: came from Iran really a lot of it to Hamas.
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  Speaker 1: You know too, they don't want Saudi Arabia normalizing Israel
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  Speaker 1: relations with Israel, so they sabotage it. Hamas of course,
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  Speaker 1: was willing to do that. Now, of course, Iran says
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  Speaker 1: they didn't know anything about it, because that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's difficult to believe. But you know, I think Hamas thought,
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  Speaker 1: you know, knew Israel would respond. I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: they thought the response would be like it is as
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  Speaker 1: long as it was and the devastation that took place
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  Speaker 1: through that, I think they thought other nations would, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Israel would eventually you know, you know, stop and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and in response to pressure from other nations. But that's
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  Speaker 1: one of the reasons, you'n. President Trump being there allowed
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  Speaker 1: them to keep going and and all of that. And
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  Speaker 1: it's a terrible situation. No one wants to see sixty
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  Speaker 1: five thousand people killed, and a lot of them were civilians.
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  Speaker 1: But it's you know, people embedded in you know, in
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  Speaker 1: hospitals and schools, and it's just the way they do
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  Speaker 1: things that they hate Israel more than they love their
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  Speaker 1: own people. And that's the consequence of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember Golda Meir, you know, saying that back
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  Speaker 2: in the seventies that until they until they love their children.
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  Speaker 3: More than their hate of Israel.
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  Speaker 2: It'll it'll never be solved, and so you brought up
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  Speaker 2: the administration. I mean, this is a little speculation, but
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  Speaker 2: I think it'd be fund at least address is what
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  Speaker 2: would it look like right now if Kabala would be
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  Speaker 2: president starting in January, so we've had you know, ten
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  Speaker 2: eleven months now, would would Israel have been as successful
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  Speaker 2: in Gaza?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think so. I think she would have
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  Speaker 1: probably you know, called on Nathan Yahre to stand down
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  Speaker 1: much sooner now whether he would have done that or around.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they get a lot of aid
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  Speaker 1: from US, a lot of military aid, but I think
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  Speaker 1: they would have stopped far short of finishing the job.
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  Speaker 1: They would you know, the hostages could have been given
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  Speaker 1: back and all of that, but then you'd be back
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  Speaker 1: to the you know, kind of the status quo before that,
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  Speaker 1: and no other country is a lot of devastation. But
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  Speaker 1: Hamas would still be in placed, they'd still be armed.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the key thing that President Trump has
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  Speaker 1: brought to this. Hamas cannot be in power and AMAS
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  Speaker 1: has to be disarmed. And he's been asked recently, what
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  Speaker 1: if they don't disarm, then we will disarm them. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they can be disarmed, and Saudi Arabia I
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  Speaker 1: think would even help. They don't want them in power.
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  Speaker 1: Their Egypt, you know, had their you know, built a
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  Speaker 1: wall down there where you know, down there at at
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  Speaker 1: da Rapa, you know, they didn't. They don't want them
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  Speaker 1: coming into their country either, because they're the old you know,
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  Speaker 1: the vestiges of the old Muslim brotherhood that they put
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  Speaker 1: out of there. So I think they all want Hamas
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  Speaker 1: basically totally neutralized as well, and not having have any
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  Speaker 1: power there. That's I think what wouldn't have happened. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you may have had the hostages, you may have had
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  Speaker 1: to cease fire, you may have had all of that.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that's the key thing for Israel going
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  Speaker 1: forward is you can't have a Moss in power and
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  Speaker 1: they have to be they have to be disarmed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And it's interesting you know how how again
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  Speaker 2: prophetic things work. So in this sense, in what we
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  Speaker 2: do know, you know, the none of this has anything
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  Speaker 2: to do specifically with the rapture, As you mentioned. If
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  Speaker 2: the rapture happens and the next you know whatever between
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  Speaker 2: now and however, it will create some other unanticipated things.
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  Speaker 2: But barring the rapture, Uh, let's let's try to project
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  Speaker 2: kind of like Clarence Larkin said, as much as we
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  Speaker 2: can the next ten years out potentially, And I know
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  Speaker 2: people don't like to think about ten years, but just
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  Speaker 2: just we're thinking theoretically or okay.
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  Speaker 3: But what what's next on the agenda?
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  Speaker 2: Many people will talk about, of course Israel they got
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  Speaker 2: the Hamas issue, pols An issue, but there's some that
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  Speaker 2: will just don't. Maybe say the next thing on the
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  Speaker 2: agendas maybe AsSalt maybe three war or we know he's
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  Speaker 2: Eco thirty eight hanging out there, so how does that
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  Speaker 2: h And I'm not asking for any commitment necessarily on
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  Speaker 2: any of it, but the do you anticipate?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: So I think everybody agrees on Ezeco thirty eight, not
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  Speaker 2: everybody agrees on SOL maybe three. But with all those
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  Speaker 2: as a backdrop, maybe what do you would you anticipate
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  Speaker 2: over the next few years as it relates to the
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  Speaker 2: building up towards EXeCO thirty eight, which we know is
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  Speaker 2: a is A is A is a true obviously hasn't
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  Speaker 2: happened yet.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we know that Iran is going to continue to
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  Speaker 1: be a thorn in Israel's side because they're mentioned in
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  Speaker 1: Ezekiel thirty eight. So we know that they're not going
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  Speaker 1: to go away. And now their power could wane and
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  Speaker 1: then come back, and so we know they're going to
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  Speaker 1: be a major obstacle to Israel. We know that they are.
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  Speaker 1: We know that Russia, you know Ezekiel thirty eight, is
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  Speaker 1: going to continue to be an aggressive power kind of
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  Speaker 1: what they're demonstrating. Now, you know, Turkey's mentioned in Ezekiel
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  Speaker 1: thirty eight. You've got Urtawan there, who's you know, friend
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  Speaker 1: despises is right. So we know a lot of these nations.
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  Speaker 1: You know, again, there can be twists and turns, as
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  Speaker 1: I said, ups and downs, but those nations are going
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  Speaker 1: to continue there. But Israel is going to continue to
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  Speaker 1: try as much as they can, and I think the
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  Speaker 1: United States is going to help them again forge this
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  Speaker 1: this piece that's needed of there's some kind of a
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  Speaker 1: broader type of a peace agreement. Now, I'm you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm in the majority or in
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  Speaker 1: the minority about the Psalm eighty three war. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: convinced that there's a separate Psalm eighty three war, because
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  Speaker 1: that's a Psalm of eight by Asaff. It's a psalm
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  Speaker 1: that just mentions a lot of kind of the inveterate
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  Speaker 1: enemies around Israel that they're going to be destroyed. But
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing in Psalm eighty three about timing. You know,
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  Speaker 1: in Ezekiel thirty eight it tells us Israel's going to
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  Speaker 1: be regathered, they're going to be at rest and living securely.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be in the latter days. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of chronological indicators there in Ezekiel thirty eight. Now,
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  Speaker 1: still not everyone agrees on the timing there, but there's
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  Speaker 1: some some parameters you have there. Psalm eighty three gives
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  Speaker 1: no statement at all about when it's going to happen. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if you take all those nations there and look at
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  Speaker 1: them being destroyed, you'd have to say, well, that's never happened.
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  Speaker 1: But to me, I just see that more as a
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  Speaker 1: psalm that Asaf wrote to David early in his reign,
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  Speaker 1: telling David encouraging him these people that are you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're just your constant enemies. God's going to deal with
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  Speaker 1: him so that he's going to destroy these nations. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily it's going to be in
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  Speaker 1: all at one time that it will happen. But these
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  Speaker 1: nations are going to be destroyed. And so I think,
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  Speaker 1: to me, even if someone believes in a Psalm eighty
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  Speaker 1: three war, being dogmatic about when it is in relation
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  Speaker 1: to other events, you just can't be because there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: there that chronologically tells it's when it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's just all speculation. Whereas Ezekiel thirty eight, there's some
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  Speaker 1: markers there that you can it can only live it
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  Speaker 1: in a few basic time periods. So but to me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Psalm too is a psalm that tells, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the nations. You know, he's going to come in
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  Speaker 1: and dash the nations like a Potter's vessel. You're going
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  Speaker 1: to you know, say, you know it's going to say
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  Speaker 1: to him, you know this king, the kingdom's yours. You know,
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  Speaker 1: these nations.
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  Speaker 3: Are yours, your inheritance here.
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  Speaker 1: And so psalm we don't we don't look for a
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  Speaker 1: psalm to war. I mean, I guess you'd be armageddon.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it would be the end, but it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: just God giving his people encouragement. These nations are going
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  Speaker 1: to be destroyed. I'm going to come back. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to rule. So I don't see a Psalm eighty three
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  Speaker 1: where you know a lot of people see that's the
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  Speaker 1: inner ring of nations, and then you know Saw and
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  Speaker 1: then Ezekiel thirty it's the outer ring. But Ezekiel thirty
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  Speaker 1: eight could include the inner nations as well, because after
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  Speaker 1: he mentions that there's ten proper names there at the
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  Speaker 1: end in chapter thirty eight, verse six of Ezekiel, he says,
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  Speaker 1: in many people's with you, Yeah, so it could include
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  Speaker 1: the nearer nations as well. But you know, I've kind
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  Speaker 1: of got a little dealer. I'll just kind of mention
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  Speaker 1: this quickly if you don't mind. Just what I see
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  Speaker 1: for Israel's future. I got seven words that start with T. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is. And so you know, the first thing that
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  Speaker 1: we know about, I think from the Bible, I call
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  Speaker 1: the treaty. There's going to be a treaty at some
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  Speaker 1: point Daniel nine twenty seven. Israel's going to get peace
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  Speaker 1: for three and a half years. Then there's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a Temple's you got to be a rebuilt temple,
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  Speaker 1: because in the middle of the seven years, Antichrist stops
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  Speaker 1: them from offering sacrifices according to Daniel nine twenty seven,
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  Speaker 1: which if you're going to stop, it means it how
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  Speaker 1: to have started. Then there's going to be the trap.
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  Speaker 1: I call it the trap. Is hekill thirty eight thirty
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  Speaker 1: nine this invasion, Then there's gonna the trader, the Antichrist
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  Speaker 1: is going to double cross Israel and UH and begin
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  Speaker 1: to persecute, and then you have tribulation. They're time of trouble,
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  Speaker 1: the time of Jacob's trouble. Then you're gonna have a turning.
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  Speaker 1: The Jews are going to turn to the Messiah and
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  Speaker 1: mass at his return and look upon him, and they
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  Speaker 1: pierced and mourn for him like one mourns for an
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  Speaker 1: only son, and then you're gonna have a triumph, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in the millennial kingdom. So that's kind of my seven words,
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  Speaker 1: the kind of simple words that I'll start with te
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  Speaker 1: to kind of give the sketch of work creature. I
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: think things are headed, but so I think you're the
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: first one there. And now the temple could be rebuilt
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: before the rapture. It doesn't have to be, but it
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: could be. But that's going to play large and loom
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: large in all of this because there has to be
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: a temple there at least sometime before the middle of
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: the tribulation for there to be sacrifices started for them
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: to be stopped. And that's going to be part of
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I think this treaty as well. And again we got
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: the Ezekiel thirty eight nations that that are out there
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: today that really are all, you know, somewhat loosely kind
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: of a loose coalition and kind of joined together. So
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: those are the things I kind of look at in
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the near future. But Israel right now, I mean, just
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: to you know, put it in kind of common terms,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: is on a roll. They are. I mean, you know,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the you know hesbelog Hamas, the Hutis aren't really doing
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: much right now either. Iran has been basically you know,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: they're you know, all their proxies have kind of been neutralized.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: The kind of the the ace in the hole that
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Iran has is nuclear weapons, yep. That's why they're hanging
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: on that. And they've somewhere they've got this four hundred
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: kilograms of sixty percent and rich uranium that you can
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: take the ninety yep. Now, I would assume I bet
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Israel knows where it is we may even know, America
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: may know.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Iran said the other day that it's buried under that
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: and they're they're trying to get access to it.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: But again, whether they're tilling.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: The right or not, who knows. But it's somewhere over
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: there where they could probably try to get it. And
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: so you know that that's something that may have to
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: be taken care of in the future as well, because
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: kind of again that's there. They're one thing with Iran
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: that they can kind of lean on. Hey we've got you,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: we've got this, we get a nuclear weapon, and kind
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: of all all bets are off. But those are a
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: few of the things. I think. I think we're going
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: to continue to see Israel prosper I think we're going
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: to continue to see peace expand there in that part
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: of the world. Again, if if Saudi Arabia were to
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: come in, I mean, that's the that's the deal of
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the century, really getting Saudi Arabia to normalize relations with Israel,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: and then that, you know, begins the setup and this
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: preparation for this Daniel nine to twenty seven covenant that
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the Antichrist will come. We'll talk about that in a
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: moment and make with Israel. That really that's the beginning
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: then of the tribulation. Now, the rapture doesn't start the
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: seven year tribulation. It starts with this treaty. So the
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: rapture could happen, you know, a month before, a year before.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think the rapture will be many years before
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: the ginning of the tribulation because part of the purpose
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: of the rapture is to deliver us from the coming wrath. Right, well,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: if the rat's too far away, we don't need to
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: be delivered from it. So it's got to be, you know,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: somewhat on the horizon. But the rapture will take place
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: that that peace then will be will be brought to
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: bear and that will set everything. Then that will start
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the end time clock really with Israel. Again of that
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: that seven year, that final seven years, that seventieth Week
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: of Daniel.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: You know that that brings up some other thoughts so
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: that the you know, as you mentioned Ezgo thirty eight,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: there's a variety of perspectives on timing of it and
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: h but do you think, if I understand you correctly,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: are you is you're thinking that the Ezco thirty eight
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: war happens inside the tribulation period.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: That's where I place it. Yes, you've got several things
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: to look out there. Again, Israel's regathered. Now almost half
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the Jews live in Israel. It says they have to
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: be at rest and living securely. Says that twice there,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and then says it's in the latter years, the last days,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: And I think it's the latter years of the last
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: days for Israel. It's not the last days of the
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Church Age, because now we're dealing with Israel. So that's
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: why I wouldn't put it before the rapture. Oh Ok,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Because it says it's in the latter years or the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: last days, and I take that to be the last
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: days for Israel, the last days of the Church Age.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I think we'll end with the rapture. So I put
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: it after the rapture takes place. Now, some would some
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: place it. Many do between the rapture and the beginning
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: of the seven year tribulation, because because in chapter thirty nine,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you have been burning the weapons for seven years, and
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: that gives you the tribulation to do that. If you
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: place the invasion like I do, somewhere in that first
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: three and a half year period, you haven't burned in
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: those weapons on into the beginning of the millennium. But
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: what I always say about the timing of Ezekiel thirty eight,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: there's no view without problems, yeah, exactly. So you just
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: have to pick the view that has the problems that
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you like best. Like the problems. My view has better
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: than the problems, so the other views have. But but
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: none of them are without problems. And many would say
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that today Israel is at rest and living securely. They
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: would say, you know what that means. The way it
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: looks at is that means that they're confident, they're they're confident,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: they're assured you that they that they can defend themselves.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: So it depends on how much what you infuse into
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: that that word, how much is there. But it's always
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: just difficult for me to look at Israel today as
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: at rest now living securely, yes, but but but at rest.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: It's just it seems to me like that's looking at
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a time after they've entered into this covenant with Antichrist,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: when they've let their guard down and that they're they're
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: living in some sense of again, it'll be a false security, right,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: with some sense of security, But it just depends on
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: what what you infuse into that word of you know,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: being at rest and securely and uh and and the
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: timing of all of this, and so you know, it's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: clearly to me it's not. I don't think it's before
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the rapture. I don't think it's the same thing as
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the Battle of Armageddon. Sure, yeah, because specific nations are mentioned,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: there'll be all the nations. You know, this seems to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: be before you know, the return of Jesus back to
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the earth. Obviously Armageddon's at the end. So I think
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: it's you can, you can rule out some some time periods,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: but to me, I think it either to me, it
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: either seems like it's between the rapture and the beginning
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: of the tribulation or in that first part of the tribulation.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Those are the two time periods that I think make
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the most sense.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because in thinking about it, there is
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: you know, there's the word but talk and the word
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: check it basically where you have quietly or you know,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I used to know far more modern Hebrew, and and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I would joke with my daughters because in modern Hebrew,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: if you would tell somebody to be quiet, you say, shuck, it,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: you know, and so I tell my daughters that, and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: it was kind of a Hebrew way of saying to
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: shut up. But you know, and so you have these
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: two ideas in the in thinking about it again, holding
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: everything loosely, is you think, okay, so if the if
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Daniel the Antichrist shows up and he's got this you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: covenant with Israel, well if you have it between the
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: rapture and that, in that gap, that hypothetical gap, you'd say, okay, well,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: maybe then all these things that are happening, which we're
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: going to talk about that the trump pieces, is it's
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: creating this sense of peace or that it doesn't use
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: the word piece in Ezekiel. It uses the word again
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: surety or quietness. So maybe all this stuff is creating
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: that quietness there.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Again one other view is Ezekiel thirty eight happens and
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: disrupts that, and then through that disruption then you have
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the Antichrist coming in and providing a certain level of
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: security post that for Daniel nine twenty seven. So it
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: is interesting again, all of them have problems, as you say,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: But the question that comes up now is we have well, okay,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: well we'll say at this way, we know that looking forward,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: eas Equal thirty eight is there. You have security, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: you have now how do we get there? And so
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: when people were thinking about Trump's plan, of course they
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: were thinking, Oh, it's Trump the Antichrist because of this
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: peace planning.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: No, no, he's not the Antichrist. It's not Daniel nine
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: twenty seven.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: But what I tell people is I don't think this
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: is contributing to Daniel net twenty seven, but it is
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: contributing to the scenario of Ezeco thirty eight, where you
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: have this security and quietness there. And so this peace
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: plan is bringing in others. It's neutralizing Hamas as we said,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: which is the thorn. It's potentially bringing others in to
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: create this scenario which does sound a lot.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Like Ezco thirty eight.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Whether it's pre Daniel line seven twenty seven or post
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: it's still contributing to it. So I said this things
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: if anything, it's prophetic of Ezeko thirty eight in the
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: at least setting the stage, not a direct fulfillment. So
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: in that sense, people were asking about us looking at
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: these twenty points. So if you don't mind, I'd love
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on these where you have. I'm
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: just going to go through and we have a little
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: litle bit of time here. We don't mean detailed, but
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: number one is of the plan is immediate ceasefire declaration.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Well that's been implemented.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Number two is Gaza as a de radicalized zone, and
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: that's a waiting implementation. Do you think that's gonna you
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: think number one? Do you think that's going to happen?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And how long would it take? I mean, is are
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: we talking decades to deradicalize the Gaza? I mean, what's
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on on at least on those two days?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of the people there
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: now have had a lot of you know, kind of
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: phil Yes, maybe of Gaza, I mean, I mean of Humas,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: because you know, they're dragging these people out and shooting
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and you're killing their own people, their own people. Yeah,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: And obviously people have been they've been so brainwashed there,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: you know, against Israel and all that. But seeing your
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: own people brutalized like that by their own people, it
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: might that might make it easier to deradicalize some of
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the people there. I think some of them, you know,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: whenever they right now, they're probably a afraid to speak
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: up because Gaza still or Hamas still has control there
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: in Gaza. But you know, if troops from Jordan and
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Egypt and Saudi Arabia and begin to come in, a
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: lot of the populace might rise up a lot and
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: try to you know, de radicalize as well. They may
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: get a lot more help from them than we realize.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: That might be a little bit of an optimistic view
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: because it's very ingrained there. But sometimes with enough death,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: enough destruction, enough killing, their hatred for the Jewish people
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: may not totally go away, but it can be to
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a point to where they say, hey, okay, we hate
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: them or whatever, but we're going to leave them alone now,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you know, we don't want any more of their retribution
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: against us. So, you know, whether it's yeah, I don't know.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: You know, when someone's de radicalized, it doesn't necessarily mean
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: they're your friend and they like you at that point
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: in time, but they just get to a point where
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: they're willing to live next to you and not want
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to kill you all the time anymore, and make that
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the whole focus, because that's really been the focus of
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the country. All their money spent on tunnels, weapons, you know, propaganda,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: all of that. Their whole goal of their existence is
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: to wipe out the Jewish people. And if you get
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to a point where people are actually thinking, let's have
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a society where we can prosper and where our families
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: can be safe and and all of that, and those
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: things become more of a focus to them than killing
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the Jews, that's a that's a step at least I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: think in the radicalization.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it almost seems that when you look at what
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: has happened again with the movement and kind of the
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: nomadic you know, lifestyle, and now that they've kind of
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: enforced in is you know again you go back three
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: years ago, they had you know, I would see pictures,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Oh the bakery that's filled with stuff, you know, and
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: then you know they had life. No, I mean, however,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: you know however it was. But now they're they're they're
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: in these temporary locations. Many of the buildings are gone
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: because I'm also is hiding in them. And so it
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: makes you wonder then if that the conditions we're seeing
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: now is going to draw them more to just can
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: we have some stability back, which again would be would
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: be pretty powerful.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, we have here.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Number three hostages, hostages released by HAMAS, So that's been implemented.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty amazing that all the twenty living
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: hostages are back and they're still waiting on some of
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: the deceased ones. The prisoner exchange number four has been implemented.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Israel has removed all those but amnesty here's a number
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: number five, Amnesty for compliant HAMAS members partially implemented. Do
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: you think that that's going to continue for the HAMAS
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: members in the sense of looking for forgiveness.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: So to speak.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Well, my view on this is, and this might be
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a little harsh, but I think the international community can
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: give amnesty to a lot of the main leaders. But
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I think within a few years they'll all be dead. Yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: it seems that when the miseral will hump them down,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: and may that may be ten years from now. They
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: don't forget, they'll die in strange circumstances probably, and again
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: not just looking at the past of the way things
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: that have been. You know, they'll they'll know where they are,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: so they may get amnesty for for a period of time.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: But but I think probably you know that that we'll
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: we'll kind of one by one. Hear about her maybe
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: we won't hear about you know, their their demise and
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: some pretty interesting or strange circumstances.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Well we saw, I mean, I know that I wouldn't
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: say Israel kind of got in trouble, but you know
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: when they uh in was it in Qatar that they
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: bought Israel bobbed you know, this building didn't get all
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: these figures, but yet it was interesting that you know,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: their their reaches is pretty far.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: You know. But some people have said though that Israel
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: did that and didn't kill them on purpose purpose, just
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: hit just as a warning, just to rattle the cage.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: And so how not long after that is when this
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: ceasefire and all was negotiated, because all of a sudden,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: these leaders of Hamas and Katar realize that their their
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: their reach extends to us. Yep In Israel had then
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Neatan Yah who apologized to cut her about that, you know,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: about what happened, you know, because he had to do that,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and Trump had him do that. But I find it
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: hard to believe that with all the other intricate things
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Israel has done. You have killing leaders in Tehran, you know,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: of different groups. So has Billah leaders in Tehran that
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: if they wanted to kill the leaders there, it would
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: have happened to happen. So I think it was calculated,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: and the US government may have even known about it
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and given them approval to do it, and then then
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: they call on Netsan Yahoo later that's for forget. You know,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: it's all orchestras.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: It's all orchestrated.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: So but but but it scared those leaders of Hamas
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: there because it wasn't long after that that they were
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: willing to agree to this. So I think there were
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot happening behind the scenes, and
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of these things that you know, again we
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: don't know about.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we should not be naive.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: And I can imagine, you know, net Yahoo talking to
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Trump and say, okay, look do I have your permission
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: to do this? And know what, you can call me
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: out later. I'll apologize and you know, I mean.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna kill them, We're just gonna scare them.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and Trump would be like, yeah, let's do that,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: let's do it. Let's do it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: So the number six here out of the twenty is
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: this staged Israeli withdraw withdraw with which has been partially implemented,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: but you know, this is I think this is one
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: of been the most important things that is really our
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Israel maintained their control because they're not just gonna leave
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: what Hamas wanted to leave completely and they're like not
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: gonna happen.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Yeah, if you've completely then you're they're gonna
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: start doing things that they've done before. And so yeah,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Israel's going to do a stage withdrawal because if if
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Hamas doesn't disarm, they don't have to leave and then
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: come back again and take ground they've already taken. So
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: we're gonna stay here when Amas is disarmed. But it's
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: clear that they have no further leadership here and probably
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the Palestinian authority really either of the Boss and others.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Then than Israel we'll leave, but yeah, you don't have
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: to go take ground that you've already taken. We're going
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: to withdraw a kind of a you know, you know,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: a line of demarcation and say we'll stay here until
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: until this is fully implemented.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the I think we've seen that. I think number
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: seven here the Hamas disarmament and removal. This probably it's
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: partially been implemented, but certainly not fully. I think that
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: of the prophetic scenario that we've been discussing as it
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: relates to again Easygo thirty eight others, we know where
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: it's going. It's gonna again going to this confidence and quietness.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: This probably has some of the most prophetic significance because
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: if they can make this happen the disarmament which Hamas
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: has been you know, they've been betraying back and forth
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: with double crossing, this would be very prophetic, I think
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: in these implications.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've said they will do it, that's what they
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: agreed to do. But everything that they do, though, they
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: make it difficult exactly. Yeah, we're gonna give hostages, Well
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: we're gonna give you know, hostages that Spindy this week
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: or this many next week, and then they renig on that.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: And so you know, it's what what I've discovered from
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: watching this over the years in traveling over to that
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: part of the world. Everything they do that you get
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: from him is like pulling teeth. It's just it's just laborious, difficult,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: you know, back and forth and partially do it. And
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: so that this is just going to be another example
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: of that. But you know, in my view, what they
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: need to do at some point in time. There's a deadline, yep.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: And here's the deadline. And if you don't do it,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: then you know, President Trump has said, we're gonna come
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and take them from you.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: And they know that they can do it, so they'll
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: they'll do it. It's just they're gonna make it as
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: they do and as laborious and as difficult as they
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: can make it. That's that's just how they operate.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: And to see if the you know, the the public
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: opinion uh changes. I mean, they are masters at propaganda
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: and I mean that the it's you can see on
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: on certain things. Amir has this on his telegram channel
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: quite a bit where you have he calls it Gaza Wood,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: where they're actually out there and they have this little
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: girl and they paint her up where she's you know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: and then they put her in there and it's all there.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: They're filming and it's just all much of propaganda.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Well, that's right. And they may not wanted this arm either,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: because they're scattered their own peace people exactly. Oh now
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: they give up their arms. I mean these you know,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: they've been brutalizing a lot of their own people. These
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: people know, these people are. You know, they're neighbors. People
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: probably lived around them Hamas, so they may be if
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: they may want the amnesty and get out of there,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and then then the arms go because they're afraid their
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: own populace could rise up against them.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Which again is understandable. Number eight here is unrestricted humanitarian aid,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: which of course that's been implemented in Number nine, temporary
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: gaza governance. We're again we're talking about the twenty point
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: planet by Trump. Number nine was temporary gaza governance. You know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: what do you think? You know, as you know this,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be this Board of Peace and it's you know,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Trump or Tony Blair is going to be involved. They're
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: trying to do this in they've said very clearly that
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: the Palestinian Authority from again Judeas Maria West West Bank
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: is is not going to be involved. You know, do
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: you see this as being a successful potentially?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: You know, I think if you get the right people
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: in there. I mean, President Trump's going to chair the
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Border of Piece. You know, you can chair the Board
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: of Peace. He's out of office if he'll continue in
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: that again, you know, to me for just thinking's prophetically
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: for a moment. You know in Daniel nine twenty seven,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: when the anti Christ comes and makes this peace with Israel.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: The word the word that's used as gabar in Hebrew.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: It can mean that he's going to come and make
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: the covenant's going to be strong, or it's going to
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: be like even compelled. But it can also mean he's
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: going to strengthen a covenant or make firm a covenant
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: that already exists. So he can come and take a
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: framework that already exists and strengthen that, or it could
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: be something that's new, kind of a new framework that's developed.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: So with a lot of with a board of peace
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: with if the Abraham Accords are expanded, all these things
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: that happened, when the Antichrist comes on the scene, he
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: may just come and make a strengthened covenant with Israel,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: make it stronger. And so I look at this, a
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: lot of the things that are happening. You've got the
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: template over there now for a lot of this to happen,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: and that's really paving the way I think for the
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: anti Christ. Nothing we see today is that covenant treated,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: but it's it could be the beginnings of it. And
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: you know, again a framework or a template or a
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: pattern for it, and whether whether it will work or not.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I think if you have I think it depends on
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you know, you have President Trump, you have the US
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: behind it, If France's behind it, you know, Great Britain's
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: behind it, you know enough enough power and muscles behind it,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you know, Tony Blair and others, and I think it
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: could happen.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the the political aspect, which again watching it
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: has been pretty fascinating to observe over the past again
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: two years, I think no doubt coming up to January
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: of this year, Uh, the the Biden administration did nothing
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: to a very little to help Israel or even seem
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: to be enjoying their the anti semitism or their their
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: the condemnations by again public opinion worldwide, United Nations and others,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Trump can in has kind of changed that. You still
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: see others that are that are will always hold on.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: You think about Spain and others condemning Israel. I'm not
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: working to boycott them, et cetera. But I think that
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: whole shift, especially with the these latest things with against
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: several countries that are getting their economic incentives from Trump
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: because Trump Trump is a business guy. So it's interesting
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: his his political giftings, his per tariffs. You know, he
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: loves tariffs, He loves these economic tools. And so to
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: see him luring these Islamic countries in you know, maybe
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: fifty years ago you couldn't, but now, I don't know.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Are they tired of war?
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: You know, it makes you wonder, especially Saudi Arabia, they
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: see Ran with nuclear weapons. They don't like that, and
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: so they're willing to get I mean, one of the
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: things they're asking for is security commitments by the truth,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: by the by the United States. That'd be a big
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: deal for us to make those agreements.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: No would be, No would be. And again, all this
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: is kind of just you know, playing together into all
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: this big whole complex of this piece that's going to
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: be over there, because something's going to cause Israel to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: be in quietness and rest and security, and it's going
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: to have to be something big. And all these things
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: that are happening, I think are movements that way. And
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the people in Israel want it, They desperately want it.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of the other people around there.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: It's gone on for so long. There's a fatigue with
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: all of this That's what happened with Egypt after the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Young Kipper War in nineteen seventy three or nineteen seventy nine.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: You know, Sadat comes in and makes these agreement, you know,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter and they come and have the Camp David
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Accords and all of that, and it was just a
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: weariness and with all the fighting again, it wasn't a
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: love for Israel. No. And then and Jordan does the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: same thing in nineteen ninety four.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: So these are kind of the precursors to what we're
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: seeing now. But it's like World War Two. After that,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the nations of Europe, I mean, they start coming together,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: The EU, you know, starts coming together in the European
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Economic Commune and all these other things. After centuries of
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: fighting and killing each other, people are tired of it.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: It's amazing too if you think about that, how things
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: can change in just a you know, a decade or something.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: But you think about World War two and even the
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: United States relationship with Japan, I mean, it's hard to believe,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: you know, there isn't this as far as I have
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: seen or heard.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I was just there a few months ago.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: But this generational hatred for America even though you know,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: World War two ended in the way it did, And
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that we have a generational hatred to Japan.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: In fact, we have We're buy their cars.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of economics, so things can
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: change relatively quickly based on that economics number ten here Again,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: these are just relatively quick. But the destruction of the
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: terror infrastructure that's partially implemented, Gaza infrastructure rehabilitation partial, that's
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: that's got a long way to go. The de militarization
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: that's a waiting implementation. This economic redevelopment plan that's a
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: waiting again. But what we're seeing here is the military
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: and we're seeing again the economics come into play. And
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: but those are again prophetically speaking, if Gaza can be
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: managed in Saudi Arabia or other nations come into play,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: that will contribute prophetically to what we've been discussing. So
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I think this is interesting looking at this plan.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Well, you've got you know, in Ezekiel thirty eight as well,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: there's some nations that are on the sidelines. Yeah, Sheban
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: d Dan and the Young Lions of Tarsius. They kind
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: of make this lame protest kind of you know what's happening,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: but they don't get involved, right, and those seem to
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: be like possibly the Gulf States, you know that these
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: more moderate Gulf states. So you kind of see the alignments.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: You've got Russia and Iran and Turkey and Libya and
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Sudan and maybe some other nations involved, you know, because Russia,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: you and Ukraine. Right now, they have troops from North Korea,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: they have troops from Nepal. There are twenty five thousand
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Cubans in that crazy they've brought in. So when it
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: says in Ezekiel thirty eight six, many people's review, where
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: where could they be from? So we see all of that,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: all of all of that happening there in those different places.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: But you know, Saudi Arabia and a lot of these
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: other nations, you know, they they want they want to
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: get peace with Israel, that they want that to happen.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: And so you've got the Siba di Dan Young Lions
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: of Tarshish kind of group. Maybe in the West, it's
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: kind of on the sidelines as these other nations come in.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: So you see a lot of these things that kind
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: of the alignments that are mentioned, they're really really forming
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: and taking place.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I find is is extremely fascinating. So
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: again when when people ask us say, hey, look again,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: this isn't this is this this piece thing that Trump
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: is doing, it's not Daniel on twenty seven, But it's
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: laying the foundation for what we see moving forward. Again,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: just a few more fifteen international stabilization force that'll be
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: that has the potential to be very successful or be
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: a disaster because in my mind, when you think about
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: will Israel shoot a a Jordanian or you know, an
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Egyptian or maybe a Saudi Arabia person in there as
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: a force? What if they what is there going to
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: be a head to head? I think this will be
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: interesting to see this play out. But again the key
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: is this this international consensus, which I find again very
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: prophetic in what we're doing. That What about the number
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: sixteen Palestinian authority reforms? Do we think that's I mean,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: the Palestinian authority Is that going to be? You think
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: that would be more difficult or less difficult than the
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Gaza reforms?
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's more even more difficult because those
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: the groups over there, those so rife with corruption and
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: graft and the money that they that they take and
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: to themselves and put in Swiss bank accounts and the
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: accounting of all that. That's one of the things I
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: just always wonder about, you know, with all the bright
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: people we have in our government, when you give money
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: over there, there's got to be an accounting, you know,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: for this, and you know money is given and and
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: you know they're going to, you know, say that these
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: reforms are taking place. But I almost think it's going
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: to be more difficult to reform the Palestinian Authority than
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Gaza because you know, it's almost easier to see the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: change there then it will be in the Palestinian Authority
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: because it's layered and so bureaucratic, and you know, they
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: they're not they're not as radical as Hamas is on
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: the outside, but inwardly they are. Yeah, they're they're just
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: as radical. They just haven't brought it out yet. So
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I think it. I think that reform there is going
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: to be it's going to be very difficult to to
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: to get the measurables when if we reached you know,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: here's a here's a point, Okay, we're going to the
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: next point. When one of these measurables that are going
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to be reached. I just don't think you can know that.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: And I think too when you look back and you
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: see that, yes, or air Fat you know when he
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: died worth hundreds of millions or billions of dollars, and
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: you're like, and it's the same thing, you know with
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: a boss there as well, like or that the most
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: people that are in Qatar there worth billions of dollars.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: How does this happen? You know?
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: But so number seventeen Interfaith Dialogue Initiative, that'll be Uh,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: it's a waiting implementation.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Uh. Will that be?
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Again?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Like the Abrahamic what's that? Where is that in like
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Dubai or something where they have the Abrahamic Religion Palace
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: and they're they're mixing, they're trying to mix this all together.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Will that come to be?
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Will they take that template from Saudi Arabia and bring
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: it in to Gaza and others?
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: You know? Maybe?
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think with Saudi Arabia there's where it's
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: really the inter faith that's getting them. It's the it's
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the ECS, it's the economic part. So you know, people
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: are willing to tolerate people that they disagree with based
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: on the economic speaking of there's really not been any
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: change on either side of what they believe or or
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: really how tolerant they are even of the other other group,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: because you know, in Saudi Arabia is still a very
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: close society yep, and will continue. It's more open than
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: it was. It's still very closed in that and it
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: will continue to be that way. But you know, it's
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: a facade of you know, kind of we're all getting
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: along with each other.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't I wonder if am I
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: going to go start at public evangelical church in Medina
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: or you know very much?
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Probably not so.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Number eighteen the US broker political horizon, Okay, that's awaiting
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Number nine. Number nineteen is probably no Israeli annexation or occupation.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: We saw this recently where Trump went on record saying
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: that he will not allow and even J. D. Vance
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: was there, that he will not allow Israeli annexation of
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: again Judea and Samaria or even the Gaza strip. And
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: so the Kanesset voted to annex jud and Samaria while
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Vance was there, which was kind of again insulting who's
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: kind of stood away from it. Do you think that
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: there'll be. Do you think Gaza will remain Gaza or
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: do you think will they will they redo or undo
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: what they did in two thousand and five under Arlos
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Sharone and taking and annexing the Godza strip back.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I don't know right now that
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: they would want to try to do that. And I think
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: right now, with everything that they've been through and they're
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: they're they're, you know, the fatigue of war there, I
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: don't I don't think Israel will try to do that
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: at this point in time. I think they'll let them
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: have it if they can get if these other things
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: actually take place. I think if a lot of these
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: things don't take place, then Israel will stand ready to
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: go in and do that. They have to, right, Yeah,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: they'll they'll have to. And again, yeah, a buffer at
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: least some kind of a buffer zone or whatever. But
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: wherever you are of Israel, there's going to be a
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: border somewhere where there's people right on the other side
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: of the border that hate you. I mean, to me,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: that's what they ought they should have over there is
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: some kind of a five mile zone along that whole
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: border between Israel or some some with where it doesn't
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: belong to anybody, just this buffer zone between where you know,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: people again come like they do October seventh, there's a warning,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: warnings go off or whatever, where you're not you know,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you just come right across the border and you're there.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the big question with all this
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people have is this two state solution.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: And I think you kind of see that in number
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: eighteen yep, you know, outline peaceful coexistence potentially including statehood pathways.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: You know that that's I think this is the one
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: that a lot of evangelical Christians, a lot of prophecy
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: experts have really criticized that Trump's kind of giving into this,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: you know, this two state solution. Trump is said he
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't want a t state solution, but I think that
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: obviously if you're talking about statehood for Palestinian, for Palestinians,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: or for Palestine, that's what that involves. So I think
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: this has been the one that's kind of the rub
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: for a lot of people who you know, believe that
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Israel has a right to their land, Christian Zionists and
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: who we believe that Israel has a right to their homeland.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: That's that's the one that I think is the real
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: problem for people.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you go back even to Trump's first administration,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: you'll he'll hear where he was.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Obviously, he was very much promoting a two state solution.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: And you know, some people make the claim that obviously
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: God is disappointed and upset and that's why he didn't
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: get in. But you know, nevertheless, in the mind of God,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: it's hard to know. But nevertheless, the land is theirs,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: and we see Joel chapter three. You know God's going
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: to judge those who divided the land. And I think
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: the big one is kind of comes. I think with
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: people putting at Trump as the Antichrist is, which again
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with, but number twenty at this using
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: the phrase eternal peace or everlasting peace, peace in our time.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Trump has been very adamant of using. Even that language
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: is so prophetically speaking. We know it's not gonna be
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: ever lasting until the Principiece comes. But do you think
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: this could shape again where it's going in the sense
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  Speaker 2: of that peace and quiet of Ezeka thirty eight that's coming.
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  Speaker 1: I do, yes, I certainly do. I think that's where
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  Speaker 1: it's headed. Daniel nine twenty seven Ezekiel thirty eight. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's Revelation six. The rider on the white horse
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  Speaker 1: of this anti Christ. He comes as bow but doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have many arrows right, and says, you know that the
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  Speaker 1: rider up, the second rider on the horses comes and
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  Speaker 1: takes peace from the earth. Well, you have to have
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  Speaker 1: peace to take it exactly. So it's I mean some
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  Speaker 1: kind of a you know, a piece, maybe a global
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  Speaker 1: piece to begin with, even you know, calling it the
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  Speaker 1: Everlasting Peace Framework. I mean, you know, President Trump likes
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  Speaker 1: those kind of praying the big beautiful bill and you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's kind of grandiose type, you know, statements the big
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  Speaker 1: beautiful ballroom as always these statements. So you know, obviously
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  Speaker 1: it's a you know, very optimistic view of the eternal
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  Speaker 1: you know, peace, the Everlasting Peace Framework. But there's no
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  Speaker 1: doubt in my mind that what we see happening now
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  Speaker 1: is the most significant movement towards peace in that part
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  Speaker 1: of the world since nineteen forty eight. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: been constant warfare nineteen forty eight, the siue Has War
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  Speaker 1: in fifty six, the Six Day War in sixty seven,
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  Speaker 1: the elm Kipper War in seventy three, wars with Lebanon Intifadas,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the war with twelve day War that they
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: had with Iran and not retch of a war, but
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  Speaker 1: still a war. These all these proxies of Iran fighting constantly.
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  Speaker 1: It's to me, looking at what we've talked about many
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  Speaker 1: of us as prophecy teachers for thirty forty years with
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  Speaker 1: the Abraham Accords made this incredible beginning, and it was
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  Speaker 1: looking like all this is happening. Then you had October seventh,
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  Speaker 1: But October seventh now may actually put make a broader
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  Speaker 1: piece possible than was even possible before. As bad as
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  Speaker 1: that was and as bad as all the carnage was
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  Speaker 1: that happened, people now I think are sick and tired
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  Speaker 1: of the fighting over there, and they have an appetite
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  Speaker 1: now for again, whether it's peace, it's normalization of relations,
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  Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. And the anti Christ
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  Speaker 1: I think, is going to come in at some point
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  Speaker 1: in time in the future and he's going to take
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  Speaker 1: all of what's there and either strengthen what's there, cobble
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  Speaker 1: this together, and make some kind of new agreement. And
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be what's going to really launch that
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  Speaker 1: final period of the tribulation and set the stage for
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  Speaker 1: the Ezekiel thirty eight wars. So these are incredible times
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  Speaker 1: in which we live to see all the problems in
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  Speaker 1: our world, but in that part of the world, to
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  Speaker 1: see this movement towards peace. It really it's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And I think one of the key things that as
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  Speaker 2: we kind of wrap it up, is that there is
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  Speaker 2: no everlasting piece, as that's only until Jesus comes back,
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  Speaker 2: because again, as we've described earlier on the Tribulation is
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  Speaker 2: the time of Jacob's trouble, that this is not going
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  Speaker 2: to be kumbay a forever. That all these things that
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  Speaker 2: there's going to be betrayal and whatever is happening now
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  Speaker 2: is setting the framework, but it's going to be short lived.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think again using these hyperbolic words of
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  Speaker 2: eternal peace is exactly it doesn't fit with scripture, but
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't But again I see these same things again
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  Speaker 2: in my mind as hey, this is contributing to something
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: that's going on. Again, it might ebb and flow with
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: all these different points, but it's fascinating times that really,
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  Speaker 2: So I appreciate you coming in today and.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you thanks for having me. That's great to
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: sit around and just talk about these things, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: thinking about you know, what's happening in our world now.
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  Speaker 1: But again, we never want to lose sight of the fact,
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  Speaker 1: you know, really the hope that we have in this world,
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  Speaker 1: it's the coming of Christ and we look forward, looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to that every day, living in anticipation, but also
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  Speaker 1: you know, living in light of that, make sure our
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  Speaker 1: lives are ready for Christ coming.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you know we you know we this is the
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  Speaker 2: weak in Bible prophecy. And what we want to remind
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: people is say, look, you know, we're not making this
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: stuff up. It's written in the scripture. And Jesus told
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  Speaker 2: us that there are signs to look for and to
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: be watching and ready. And as again, as always, if
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  Speaker 2: you are not, if you're not ready, you know, if
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: you don't have your faith in Jesus, then then you're
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: missing something very important. And again our hearts here are
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  Speaker 2: to help people escape the coming tribulation Jesus at Luke
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  Speaker 2: twenty one. There's this opportunity to escape this trap that's
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: coming upon the world. So thanks for listening today, and
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  Speaker 2: thank you always again for your prayers and support for
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  Speaker 2: what we do here. And we will catch all next time.