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From Tragedy to Helping Others Fight For Their Tomorrows With Beth Thorp · She Speaks Life - Christian Women, Strengthen Your Faith, Bible Study, Grow Spiritually In Christ

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  Hi guys. Welcome back to.
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  She speaks life, I'm Jamie Elizabeth and today I have with
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  me author Beth Thorpe of a new creation Beth shares.
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  Her story about a mysterious illness that began symptoms in
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  her son, Mitchell at age 13 in this episode.
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  We talk about Mitchell and his love for baseball and she talks
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  about the Journey of going through the unknowns pain and
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  grief all while learning to stay and face.
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  Faith and stay focused on Hope after the passing of Mitchell at
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  the age of 18, Beth and her husband, founded.
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  The Mitchell Thorpe Foundation supporting families.
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  Through life, threatening illnesses and diseases, you can
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  find more info about it at Mitchell, Thorpe dot-org.
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  This story, I'll do very hard to hear.
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  Bring so much hope and encouragement to anyone who's
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  lost a loved one. Here's my guest Beth Thorpe.
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  Hi Beth. I am so glad you are here.
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  Welcome to she speaks life. Thank you for having me.
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  I'm so glad to be here. My heart, you know, is heavy
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  from this message, in this experience that you went
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  through. But like you were saying before
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  we hit record, that is the beauty that God made it into
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  after the tragedy. And so I really just want to
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  kick it off with more about who you are.
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  And From there. I'd love to get to know your son
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  Mitchell and how it was when he was a child and raising him as a
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  kid. Awesome.
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  Yes. It's, he was my firstborn
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  Mitchell, and if I had to describe him, he, we always
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  called him our Sunshine boy because he was so full of joy.
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  So light, so happy. Now he was a beautiful young boy
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  but inside and out, I remember teachers writing, To me after
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  his passing, when Mitchell would walk in the room, he would light
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  up the room. I mean, just things like that,
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  his character I write about it in the story and we'll get to
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  that in a minute. How I wrote the book took me 13
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  years to finally see the Fingerprints of God through it.
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  All for me to get it on paper and we'll talk about that in a
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  minute. But but back to Mitchell he
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  people kept saying thank you for telling me who Mitchell was
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  specially for people who didn't know him.
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  So I wanted him To be able to have his voice heard and who he
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  was as a person while he was here on Earth.
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  God gave me this beautiful child when we struggled to have
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  children and prayed constantly on my knees.
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  Lord, why can't I get pregnant? Everyone in my family, all my
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  sisters are and why not me and so one of those things happened
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  and and God gave me this beautiful child and I had him
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  for 18 years and ultimately I had to give them back to him but
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  He was my warrior son. We call him, our Warrior son,
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  just for everything that he had to go through.
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  He'd Made Me Stronger. And those who knew our family
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  around us stronger, and brought people closer to God knowing
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  everything that we had to go through with him.
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  Well, I see in the background that you have him in his
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  baseball gear. And I mean, they, he absolutely
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  loved baseball. And one of the things I want to
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  mention was In Carlsbad California, which is very close
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  from where I grew up in San Clemente, California and my
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  brother is the president of baseball Little League for his
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  kids and so very popular in our family.
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  And so tell me how did he get into baseball?
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  Well, my husband was an ex pro ball player who played for the
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  Los Angeles Dodgers as a left-handed pitcher.
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  In the 80s. So that's where his love came
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  from my husband, and it up coaching, like in the community
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  here for the Carlsbad youth. Lease youth baseball, and
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  Acosta, youth, baseball leagues. He was in both and just coach
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  the boys. I have another son to they were
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  22 months apart, so there's Mitchell and Matthew and my
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  husband and up coaching and yes, they did.
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  When he had old enough branched into that whole Of travel
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  baseball. And at the time Mitchell was
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  developing into really a wonderful five-tool player and
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  High School coaches as interesting.
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  We're coaching, we're scouting him.
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  I should say at the age of 10 11 and 12.
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  And when we came to of years old, they're like what high
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  school is he going to you? They wanted them at their high
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  school because we had a choice to go to either.
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  We had a choice. But yeah, he was a very talented
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  athlete and I in brag about that because I'm his mom, but when I
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  would stand behind the fence watching him, come up to plate
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  and fathers would be standing there behind that knowing that
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  I'm his mom, right? And I would hear them say boy, I
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  love to see this kid. Hit, they love to see him hit.
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  He was known for That Swing so that is why that picture on the
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  front of the book was so important of baseball runs
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  really thick through our family and a lot of Lessons in baseball
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  that you can that all these young boys can learn in my
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  husband brought that to them. And not only that but also
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  learning how to lose, where to keep your faith.
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  You know, and that was just Mitchell.
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  He was just one of those talented intelligent, boys.
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  He was a 4.0 student very athletic, but his character
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  again, was always looking out for the underdog, you know, and
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  he always would help. Those that were struggling
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  because it was a team sport, right?
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  So he wanted always to win. So if the team wasn't doing
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  well, you know, he would do his part to try and help to make the
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  other ball players better and he just had a heart for that, you
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  know? And for that I saw that little
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  just stepping up as being a little leader, you know, which
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  was really kind of nice to see and I started believe or not
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  coaching when they were very very little, I took him to the
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  local YMCA. CA and he was like, for almost
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  turning 5 and none of the dad's wanted to step up and Coach, you
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  know, at that age. So but I actually said, I said,
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  okay no one's raising their hand, I guess I'll coach.
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  So I coached the boys, you know that that age, you know, and
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  then his father said, you know, I will step up Mitch and help
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  you when you get a little older and so yeah.
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  And he did and coached him for many years, he sounds like an
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  amazing head. We hold every year the Grand
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  Slam for Mitchell. Baseball tournament in the month
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  of September here and we had, we thought when we first had this
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  tournament that we'd have 20, maybe 30 teams signed up know.
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  God had a whole different plan, we had 60, 60, 60 travel takes
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  come out for this tournament. It's a three-day tournament.
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  We hold it in the month of September every year because
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  it's Childhood Cancer, where's Awareness Month in September?
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  So we hold it for that and it's really wonderful to see.
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  Children coming out and teaching the young ones and the coaches
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  even say, you know, thanks so much.
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  The guy, all the kids love to play for something bigger than
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  they are. There's more than just baseball,
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  right? There's a higher purpose, right?
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  Oh, that's so neat. Okay, so take us back to I guess
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  when symptoms started to happen. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  We were, he was symptoms came out of age of 13 and he passed
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  at 18. So it was a We are very long,
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  hard journey, taking him in and out of different hospitals, and
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  doctors throughout the nation looking for answers.
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  He was ultimately undiagnosed to his death, so go figure.
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  I was just like Beyond myself. No one could figure out what was
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  going on and it was a rude awakening to our medical system.
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  No question. They ran every test again in and
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  out different hospitals. He came home at the age of 13.
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  Ends with a headache. Very bad headaches.
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  He says, Mom, I don't know why I'm having sex, I don't feel
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  good. So like any mom, you give him a
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  pain reliever and you thought, maybe he's coming down with the
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  flu and get some rest and, and then to speed up the story,
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  things were progressing and not really getting better.
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  And finally, again we had to take him back to the hospital
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  when he came home one day and just kind of collapsed on the
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  front yard and cried for me and I ran out to get them and my
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  husband, swooped him up and we brought him in the house, you
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  know. Mitchell was Wrong was
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  happening. Tell us what's happening.
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  He's in my pain pain in my head pain.
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  And so, we took him to the hospital again and they ran more
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  tests and things kept coming back - normal.
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  But you're like, but he's not. So, what's driving this pain?
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  So, we were always chasing pain and before it became chronic and
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  it was just when I look back on it.
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  Running like crazy looking for answers, searching for answers,
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  relying on doctors to give you a sign of Hope of what to do.
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  And there was none. And then till finally he was in
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  so much pain. And we again taking this is now
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  years. How we're going into like the
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  fourth fifth year of dealing with, this was still no answers,
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  but trying to deal with it. He finally ended up in the UCLA
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  research hospital. They gave us a choice Mayo
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  Clinic or UCLA like a research hospital because they couldn't
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  figure it out. So we opted for UCLA because
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  it's closer to us and and we were there for a month and
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  again, their whole doctors and team of people came in and out
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  and And by then he was in myoclonic, seizures due to pain.
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  So, her like what's causing this pain?
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  And more tests were ran tests kept coming back - normal.
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  Then the doctor said, well must be all in his head when you're
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  like you think my well that really hit my husband's and my
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  buttons, really you think he wants to be like oh yeah I'm
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  like Oh my he River ice, trying a pictures of him playing
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  baseball. He would rather be out playing
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  baseball with his friends. I said I said you know do what
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  you have to do but this is His head.
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  This is something is going on here, that's causing such head
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  paint anyway. So you have to Cana that's a
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  whole other chapter I write in my book about dealing with that.
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  But they did do, you know, let them do all their studies.
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  And yes, they came back and said, no, it's not in his head
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  and as any mother, I'm biting my tongue going mmm right on the
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  medical records. You know, they had, they would
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  say, Beware of the mother, you know.
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  But, you know, I had to advocate for him because he couldn't
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  speak or talk at the time and I'm My husband and I are trying
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  to discuss with the doctors and they brought us in this big
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  conference room and were chatting with them.
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  You know? Like they're telling us, we
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  tried this, this, and that, and nothing's working as a, we'll
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  have you looked into this this and that, you know, parents go
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  to the ends of the Earth. We're doing all the research and
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  I'm in a research hospital anyway, but it was, it was
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  really hard but at the end of that, I write about it in the
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  book, they wanted to take our son away from us.
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  And put them in a psychiatric ward.
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  And we're like But you said, it wasn't psychological.
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  He would have surely died in there.
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  I said, why would you take that course of action?
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  So parents have to understand, then we had to, you have to be
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  very careful how you learned. We had a bit, get an attorney to
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  help intervene between us in the hospital because hospitals are
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  very, you know, scared of being sued and whatnot, but to get him
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  out of the hospital because they basically said, take him home
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  and make him comfortable, which basically meant Hospice care and
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  palliative care, but we were yet not going to give up on him.
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  And we had that bring a whole team of people into our home.
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  We, but we hired a nutritionist here, an osteopath, we decided
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  to take things a little bit differently.
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  More integrative medicine, since Western medicine, couldn't
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  figure it out and then I had to have a whole team in place
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  before, they would release him from the hospital, which was
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  fine, because we needed that we were going to give up on him.
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  He left that that time with The good things that came out of the
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  hospital as they broke the myoclonic seizures, they put a g
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  tube in his stomach. So we could feed him because he
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  lost the ability to swallow and eat, and he was losing weight
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  and alarming rate. I had good friends, come and my
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  nutritionist. We she created Mitchell's
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  formula, she coddled, it Mitchell's formula, they
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  organically Juiced everything and then that she had all these
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  vitamins and things, I'll break all these capsules and
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  everything that she would work off his blood work to see what
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  he was deficient in to help build.
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  Back up on the cellular level, as well as to put weight back on
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  the osteopath, came into the picture and things started to
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  make a turn for a little bit of the better.
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  He was the only doctor that said there is an inflammatory
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  situation happening in his head. My nutritionist wanted him to be
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  tested for Lyme's disease and I said Lyme's disease and back
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  then. See no one knew anything about
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  that. The test even back then, or not
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  very accurate from what I'm now know.
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  And learned but Lyme's disease is a big, disguiser of many
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  things which the tests don't always show it in blood work and
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  what and other things that I have now learned over the years
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  since we are helping other families right now with children
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  going through Lyme's disease and I see similar symptoms of what
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  they're going through. What Mitchell had.
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  So back then we're talking, you know, 15 years ago.
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  Social media wasn't really around.
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  Myspace was it. So everything had to be done of
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  getting Mitchell's word out was through newspaper and print.
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  And so, we were not in a really good place of people
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  understanding. But anyway, he was the only
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  doctor, the osteopath to had a glimmer of testing of that.
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  There's something else going on. That's affecting his central
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  nervous system. Not only that he picked up and
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  detected heavy metals, and we were like heavy metals.
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  I thought, oh my gosh, it's someone poisoned my son, and
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  then I had myself, my husband and my other son tested.
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  We were fine. But Mitchell's she meddles in
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  his system were not. They were abnormal that was the
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  only thing a first clue of something, wasn't, right?
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  So we had to go through a whole chelation process with that with
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  him and detox him. And I thought, well, once those
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  got out of his system, maybe we'll start to see things turn
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  around, but he was the only doctor that helped us get
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  through them. That and then do some protocols
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  to help. Get the inflammation down in his
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  head. That was causing the pain.
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  But speaking to other people who have now have suffered from that
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  disease, those are some of the symptoms and but go figure back
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  then, we're running around the whole United States looking for
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  answers and not one doctor, could figure it out or even help
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  us. Yeah.
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  Oh man. I this is like an unimaginable.
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  Nightmare for any parent. And just to walk through this,
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  hearing your journey and how you're just navigating trying to
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  find some kind of solution to his pain.
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  I mean my heart is breaking and I just could not imagine how I'm
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  curious. How was your relationship with
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  the Lord during this time? Period.
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  Oh yeah, good question. They us.
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  I'm very faithful, I was In my faith and my husband, too, and
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  we've had people praying over him, pastors, coming and praying
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  having Mitchell on. Everyone's prayer.
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  Chain People Prayed and we buy write about it in the book at
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  that time. God, where are you?
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  Why aren't you answering our prayer wire?
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  Where are you? Why aren't you healing him we?
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  And we had people laying hands on him.
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  We were just, I mean everything we had in our prayer walks.
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  So yes, it tested my My faith and my husband Faith to the nth
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  degree, but we never wavered. But yet, It got to a point when
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  we came home from that UCLA visit, I mean I was crying on
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  the Park Bench outside the hospital, a lady comes up to me
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  says, are you? Alright?
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  And I'm like bawling this is no my son's in this hospital and
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  these having surgery right now to put that g tube in and I was
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  just a wreck your a basket case walking through it all and
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  you're reaching out and you're crying and your wits and I was
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  so when I finally came home with him, it came to the point where
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  II was had to totally surrender him.
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  And I was so exhausted from five years of your like as a parent.
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  You're in the battlefield right day in and day out, fighting for
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  your child and it took a toll on my health.
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  I finally fell to my knees and cried and said I Surrender him
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  God to you. I can't do this anymore, you've
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  got to, I can't take it. I can't do it, right?
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  You're at that point, many people get can get to that point
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  when they're going through such But I was hanging on my husband,
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  I were hanging on like pitbulls, you know, we weren't letting go
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  trying to help my son. We often prayed in my head
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  Mitchell in the backyard with me.
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  We'd see butterflies flying around us.
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  I say, you know, Mitchell one day, God's going to heal you and
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  set you free. But in my mind healing him here
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  on Earth, that was the hardest part of the journey.
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  He ultimately did pass at 18 so and then we took.
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  But while he was alive which was very interesting people in this
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  community came out and heard about her situation.
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  Shannon and they formed a walkathon, these are some very
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  good friends of ours is we are going to help you.
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  We know how much medical it. We have very good insurance but
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  we still owe to over 100,000 dollars out of pocket to that
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  hospital stay and we're going to do a walkathon for your family.
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  So this was when Mitchell was alive with us and we came home
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  with them medical bill and Hundreds of people showed up
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  like 800 people. People, we didn't even know came
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  out in droves for our family. To do a walkathon to help us
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  raise money to help pay off our medical bill.
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  Even while we had good insurance, yeah, Community.
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  I mean you really through tragedy like that, you really
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  see people coming together and supporting and helping one
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  another and you made a foundation in his name.
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  But before Jump into that. I wanted to ask you.
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  So what made you write and publish a book was, there is,
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  you know, obedience that the Lord was placing on your heart
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  to do. Well, you know, and like it took
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  like I said, it's 13 years now, it took me.
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  It's finally published, but I wanted to get it out in our
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  10-year anniversary, but it really took covid-19 to shut
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  everything down to quiet, my world and quiet, take all our
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  events, had to cancel, and put me in a space of its time.
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  When I heard God speak to my spirit, he said to me daughter,
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  It's time to write our story and it's been in my heart for so
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  long. People always said you need to
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  share your story, all the things that Mitchell was speaking to
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  you beyond the veil of heaven and how God showed up in.
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  So many ways for you that I documented and photographed in
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  the book, you should people kept saying, you need to share your
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  story, you need to tell your stories, you start hearing that
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  enough, you like I know I need to tell it, I just have to find
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  time to do it. So it really took covid that
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  made me piss. Pivot.
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  And I finally when I heard God speak to my spirit I when you
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  hear God speak like that you move and I moved and for and I
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  just prayed through the Holy Spirit every day to speak
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  through. My heart, to my mind, to my
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  fingers and everything, just kept flowing like rivers of
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  water, out of my fingertips and prior to that nothing was
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  flowing. Because quite frankly, it's all
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  in God's perfect timing because prior to that I wasn't ready, my
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  sister early on. When 3 years in after I was
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  passing, she's like, oh my gosh, Mitchell's brought so many
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  people closer to God, even our own family.
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  I can't believe in all these people that came out for you and
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  to walk for you and hundreds, and people are drawn to this
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  drawn to you drawn to the story, there's something about
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  Mitchell. And I talked about in the back
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  of the book is how the Power of One Life can cause a ripple
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  effect that goes on and on and on to touch so many others lives
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  that draw people closer to the glory of God, which we can
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  actually turn people to know. Our testimony and how God was
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  faithful through it all. Even at times when we felt like
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  he wasn't. So I am a big proponent of faith
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  and so that's what started that Journey.
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  So I took me 15 months to write it and another wonderful miracle
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  that was in it. Was my first book submission
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  book proposal to the very large Publishing House in New York,
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  Morgan, James publishing. And I thought, you know, go big
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  or go home, right? Let me start here, I didn't know
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  where to go and I love it, you know?
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  So they stay sent me. I have it hanging on my wall as
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  we speak a congratulations letter.
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  They sent it to me that they are going.
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  They like the proposal that they are wanting to publish It's the
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  manuscript and they that letter was sent the week of Mitchell's
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  passing and I just waved that letter to the heavenlies, I was
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  crying. I was like, oh my gosh, God, you
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  do want your story out there through us and we're just a
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  witness for God of everything that happened along this journey
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  and how we came out of such pain and such tragedy that.
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  The whole process of going through our healing and
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  restoration that I write about in the book, which is a
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  necessary point. For anyone going through trauma
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  or tragedy, is to find someone that you can trust.
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  And in our case, it was our spiritual counselor.
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  I always have to go that route with my faith because I knew
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  there were many things that had to be broken off my husband and
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  I I'll for figure in this break off the doctors that couldn't
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  find all the answers for giving them forgiving, people who said
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  things that they shouldn't have, said, forgiving all that stuff
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  that you're harboring that has to be broken off, for you to be
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  set free. And when we went through that
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  healing session, the very next day, I literally my husband.
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  I were a wreck, we were exhausted, but the very next day
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  it was like, we went through the refiners fire.
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  And I woke up, totally transformed and changed.
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  And I told my husband, I don't want to do anything else on this
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  Earth, unless it has Eternal significance.
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  And he looked at me and he said, wow, he says, you know, I feel
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  the same, so we just were totally transform everything we
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  did prior to an our life. I was in the fashion industry,
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  my husband was in sales and marketing for a fitness
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  industry. We gave it up and we started a
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  foundation in Mitchell's honor and only because when I was in
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  my deepest pain of grief, Again, the Lord spoke to my spirit, I'm
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  curled up in a ball, right? He said this is not the end.
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  This is the beginning. And I kind of shook up I sat, I
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  said, what do you mean by that? This is not the end.
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  This is the beginning. It feels like it's the end.
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  I don't want to be here anymore. I like I lost part of my soul,
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  died with my son and Brad got us a message when he was at the
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  church over here like two days later and he said, you know, I
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  heard of two boys, it had Hodgkin's lymphoma and one had
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  Non-Hodgkin's both families struggling to make ends meet and
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  God spoke to my spirit to A foundation.
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  I we need a form a bridge here to help other families going
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  through what we went through and he came home and told me God
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  spoke to my spirit, we need to start a foundation and I looked
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  into you undo, what are you you want to do what?
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  But then I had to go back and realize what God said to me.
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  This was not the end. This is the beginning.
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  And I thought, okay, well then, there we go.
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  We got on our hands and knees and pray, that God is the CEO of
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  this foundation. And he's going to show us the
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  way. And here we are 13 years later,
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  giving to back 2.6 million dollars and Counting back into
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  the community helping other families and children fighting
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  for their tomorrow's. That's so great.
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  That's wonderful. You know, it's, it's beyond us,
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  right? You start to learn that.
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  It's really about others, and Bring others and you know God
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  just reveals that to us and it's a beautiful thing.
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  Wow. Okay, can you leave us with a
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  takeaway? I know I loved it.
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  Asked each guest as we conclude in our episode here of just
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  something that you can leave. Maybe the you know listener is
• 26:20
  lost someone or maybe you know, they're just going through a
• 26:26
  loss in general. Rather it be like a job or home.
• 26:29
  Home, or a friendship, some relationship.
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  What is some encouragement that you can give them?
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  Yes, loss comes in many forms, like you say, and my, I'm so big
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  of hanging on to your faith. So Faith doesn't always take
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  out. The problem.
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  Faith takes you through the problem.
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  And Faith doesn't always take away the pain.
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  But Faith gives you the ability to handle the pain.
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  And Faith doesn't always take you out of the storm but Faith
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  calms you in the midst of the storm.
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  So faith is a is one of the things I write about in the
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  book. It's such an important principle
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  to God. That I would say to your
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  listeners, if you feel like you've lost your faith, ask
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  yourself. How strong is my faith?
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  And people will often say that to me.
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  I my faith is not as strong as yours, I said, but you can find
• 27:34
  your faith and the only way you can find your faith is to get
• 27:37
  into the word of God. Find a good bible-based church,
• 27:41
  find and surround yourself with faith like-minded, people to
• 27:45
  help build you, and encouraged you along whatever, struggle
• 27:48
  you're going through. And God will take you there.
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  He will speak to you through his word, but I also encourage
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  people to get it. Don't get yourself isolated.
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  That's what the enemy wants to do.
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  Keep you isolated and away from others, and in your pain and
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  then people don't, they don't turn to the faith and they turn
• 28:10
  to other things to numb, the pain, drugs alcohol, and that's
• 28:13
  not the answer. God is the answer.
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  He's the only one ultimately who can heal and restore Amen to
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  that, you know, Faith pleases God.
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  Right? Yeah, faith is comes by hearing
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  and hearing the word of God and we've all been given a Measure
• 28:33
  of Faith and faith is essential, okay?
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  Where can people go and get your book or even?
• 28:40
  Just get to know this Foundation.
• 28:43
  Oh, yes, absolutely. The book just got released,
• 28:46
  actually the end of June is worldwide wherever books are
• 28:49
  sold. Online Amazon.
• 28:51
  If you want a personal signed autographed copy by me, you can
• 28:55
  actually go to my website, a new creation dot-org and then there,
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  you can just, you can see where to buy the book and I'll sign
• 29:04
  one for your audience and the foundation is Mitchell.
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  Thorpe dot-org. And you can find more about what
• 29:12
  we do to help children families with children, with
• 29:15
  life-threatening, illnesses diseases and disorders.
• 29:17
  And you can learn more about that and sir For your audience.
• 29:21
  Every purchase of the book goes back.
• 29:23
  The proceeds are going back to the foundation to help another
• 29:25
  child fighting for their tomorrow.
• 29:27
  So it's a good read. The people who have read it,
• 29:32
  already have been writing, wonderful reviews and saying,
• 29:35
  it's an easy read and so encouraging.
• 29:38
  And so I highly recommend it and would love for your readers, to
• 29:43
  read through our journey, for sure.
• 29:45
  Well, thank you both for coming on here and sharing such a
• 29:50
  Tragic deep experience and having those seeing you go
• 29:55
  through it with God and coming out on the other side with a
• 30:00
  beauty that only God can do. And to really take the focus off
• 30:06
  yourself and give it over to other people and serving others
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  and by glorifying God through it all.
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  It's just there's so much courage in that and there's so
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  much inspiration. And what you do and your
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  husband, after going through something like this.
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  So thank you for sharing your voice, and your story, and
• 30:29
  getting it out there to the masses to help them and build
• 30:33
  them in their faith. And, you know, go, you know
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  what, if I can do it, you can do it.
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  Anything is possible with God. Absolutely.
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  Absolutely well. Thank you, Beth.
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  Thank you Jamie for having me on.
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  It was a pleasure. Thank you so much for listening
• 30:50
  today and I trust that God has encouraged you through this
• 30:53
  story. Did you know this podcast is on
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  recording of each episode and for more information on this
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  ministry and to access free downloads, please visit my
• 31:09
  website at Jamie Elizabeth.com that's ja, yme Elizabeth.com and
• 31:15
  let's connect Beyond this podcast by Going to my Instagram
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  handle, Jamie Elizabeth, she speaks life or Facebook until
• 31:23
  next time my friend. I hope God reveals himself
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  through your own life story.