Latest / Reality with The King / RHOA: Underrated and Overachiever Cynthia Bailey
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And that one choice change my whole life.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Like I was known in the fashion industry, but I
- 0:06Speaker 2: wasn't like famous like this.
- 0:07Speaker 1: This is crazy, like you know when you've become my housewife.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Stay tuned, we'll get into this conversation right after these quick.
- 0:16Speaker 4: ASDs Hey rain Drops.
- 0:27Speaker 3: On today's episode of Reality to the King, I am
- 0:30Speaker 3: joined by my long standing good friends Cynthia Bailey, Yeah,
- 0:34Speaker 3: the beauty supermodel from the Royal Housewives of Atlanta. On
- 0:38Speaker 3: this episode, we get into why I consider her to
- 0:41Speaker 3: be underrated and why people, for some reason just refuses
- 0:47Speaker 3: to give Cynthia her props for being one of the
- 0:49Speaker 3: best housewives Atlanta has seen, and my answer just may
- 0:55Speaker 3: surprise you. In addition to that, we get into her
- 0:58Speaker 3: filing for divorce from my Hill, her relationship with Peter Yeah,
- 1:03Speaker 3: Peter and Nini leaks, and last but not least, we
- 1:09Speaker 3: also get into what's next for this beauty bombshell. Without
- 1:13Speaker 3: further ado, here is my conversation with Cynthia Bailey, Oh
- 1:22Speaker 3: rain Drops. I don't think you guys understand how much
- 1:25Speaker 3: I loved Cynthia Bailey. I want to go back down
- 1:29Speaker 3: memory lane Cynthia for the girls and the guys.
- 1:34Speaker 5: Come on, come through.
- 1:37Speaker 3: So I got a chance to meet Cynthia. Season three,
- 1:41Speaker 3: the network, the Producsia company raved, raved, raved about Cynthia,
- 1:46Speaker 3: and long story short, Cynthia used to read me for
- 1:51Speaker 3: fa I.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Learned it from you. I learned it from you.
- 1:56Speaker 2: I don't even know what I read was season three,
- 1:59Speaker 2: but because if you, honey, I learned very quickly.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Okay, let the girls know.
- 2:04Speaker 5: Let the girls know.
- 2:05Speaker 3: This was so funny about us working together, me and
- 2:08Speaker 3: you and the rest of the housewives. You had this
- 2:11Speaker 3: gay black man who was a part of this amazing show. Yes,
- 2:15Speaker 3: and I told disturb before about how Nini used to
- 2:19Speaker 3: mock my mannerism, and everyone was like child, Nini ain't
- 2:23Speaker 3: not the but Carlos.
- 2:24Speaker 5: Kid in address, like let's be clear. But in terms
- 2:28Speaker 5: of like shade and read.
- 2:30Speaker 3: It was something that I introduced to the cast in
- 2:34Speaker 3: terms of just us having conversations. And although Cynthia has
- 2:39Speaker 3: been a supermodel way before Atlanta Housewives and been around
- 2:43Speaker 3: the gay community, I think the difference was we were
- 2:46Speaker 3: shooting every single day her life and then you know,
- 2:50Speaker 3: my interact with the ladies.
- 2:52Speaker 5: They sort of picked up on, like the gay.
- 2:54Speaker 3: Culture so talk to the audience about that because they
- 2:57Speaker 3: don't know that about us.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Well, okay, first of all, I as soon as you say,
- 3:04Speaker 2: Carlos read one of the biggest reads that you ever gave,
- 3:07Speaker 2: not just me but the entire cast.
- 3:09Speaker 1: And I don't know if you remember this.
- 3:11Speaker 2: We were I don't know whose trip it was, but
- 3:13Speaker 2: we went camping or whatever, and we were sitting by
- 3:18Speaker 2: we were sitting around the bonfire, honey, and for whatever reason,
- 3:23Speaker 2: everybody was like quiet.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Nobody was really trying to bring it. Nobody was really
- 3:28Speaker 1: trying to give what needed to be given, honey. And
- 3:32Speaker 1: when I tell.
- 3:32Speaker 2: You, Carlos King, he was like, stop camps okay. He
- 3:37Speaker 2: walked around all of us, he was like, let me
- 3:39Speaker 2: tell you something. Okay, y'all can sit here and look
- 3:42Speaker 2: crazy if you want to, but.
- 3:44Speaker 1: We have a TV show to do. Please be clear
- 3:47Speaker 1: that I'm going to get paid whether y'all bitches sit
- 3:50Speaker 1: here and do nothing or not. Okay, So I'm gonna
- 3:54Speaker 1: need y'all to.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Open up y'all's mouse and make some goddamn TV okay,
- 3:59Speaker 2: because I'm.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Gonna eat my house. Is gonna be paid for you guys,
- 4:05Speaker 1: maybe not so much.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Okay, So if you want to bring your behinds back
- 4:09Speaker 2: next season, I advise you to make some goddamn TV
- 4:12Speaker 2: right now. I was like, when I said, we were
- 4:14Speaker 2: all like, okay.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Wait what I mean?
- 4:19Speaker 2: We were all mad at you all on the bus
- 4:22Speaker 2: the next day, I was like, you know what, Carlos,
- 4:25Speaker 2: I just think I just think that was so disrespectful
- 4:28Speaker 2: for you.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Just I mean, I mean when I say he didn't
- 4:31Speaker 1: only read us, when I.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Say he laid us out, that nobody had no edges when.
- 4:35Speaker 1: He got delt with us.
- 4:37Speaker 2: But I remember that because I was like, you know what,
- 4:40Speaker 2: He's right like, we're here to do a job and
- 4:43Speaker 2: we're not getting paid to sit around the bonfire and
- 4:45Speaker 2: toast damn marshmallows periods. Why, Which is why I will
- 4:51Speaker 2: say you are definitely, hands down one of the best
- 4:54Speaker 2: producers that I've ever worked with, for sure, because you
- 4:58Speaker 2: always you how you had such a personal relationship with
- 5:03Speaker 2: all the different girls. You knew us, you knew how
- 5:05Speaker 2: to snatch us together, and we.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Always had to come together.
- 5:08Speaker 2: I have another funny story, but I'm not gonna take
- 5:10Speaker 2: up on the podcast.
- 5:13Speaker 5: No no, no, no no.
- 5:14Speaker 3: So look, the purpose of this podcast and The reason
- 5:17Speaker 3: why people love this podcast, Cynthia, is because they get
- 5:22Speaker 3: to learn new things about my relationship with the cast
- 5:26Speaker 3: and honestly learn new things about you.
- 5:29Speaker 5: Yes, because you've done.
- 5:31Speaker 3: Interviews from your I mean, four decades of being in
- 5:36Speaker 3: this business like you are. And I'm not just saying
- 5:38Speaker 3: this because you're in front of my faith. You are
- 5:40Speaker 3: truly just a legend in the game. So I want
- 5:44Speaker 3: to be able to show the world a different side
- 5:46Speaker 3: of you and to go off of that story. Yes,
- 5:49Speaker 3: I listen. I'm perfectionist. And one thing about working with
- 5:53Speaker 3: the Atlanta women that I loved was the fact that
- 5:57Speaker 3: we had a very close relationship. We were able to
- 6:01Speaker 3: cuss each other out. So I'm gonna say a story
- 6:05Speaker 3: about Cynthia. So rain drops, y'all know that I said,
- 6:09Speaker 3: every single housewife has cussed me out except Kenya.
- 6:13Speaker 5: Shockingly, Kenya is the only.
- 6:17Speaker 3: No, never never, So and every time I say this story, Cynthia,
- 6:22Speaker 3: the girls would be like, honey, Cynthia Bailey.
- 6:26Speaker 5: Never cussed you out.
- 6:26Speaker 3: I said, Oh, she did it the worst, I said,
- 6:30Speaker 3: Ninie Chara khim Zosiac the rest of them, Yeah, I said,
- 6:35Speaker 3: Cynthia cussed me out.
- 6:36Speaker 5: So I'm going to give a story.
- 6:37Speaker 3: I want the world to know the reals, not not
- 6:39Speaker 3: not the real Cynthia, You're always real, but the other
- 6:42Speaker 3: side of Cynthia.
- 6:43Speaker 5: Honey. This is so. It was season nine. I will
- 6:50Speaker 5: never forget this.
- 6:51Speaker 3: It was season nine and we were going to film
- 6:59Speaker 3: the up event. I think Phedra was organizing this season nine,
- 7:06Speaker 3: this pop up event when ry housewife had their business
- 7:10Speaker 3: accessories and business line.
- 7:12Speaker 5: At the table. Yes, I forgot. What happened Cynthia bone cheek.
- 7:22Speaker 5: I know I'm gonna say.
- 7:23Speaker 3: I think, I say, probably cheekbones, but actually the bone
- 7:27Speaker 3: structure is so severe that it surpasses her cheeks. Guy,
- 7:31Speaker 3: so I call her bone cheek. So Cynthia bone cheek.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Bailey called me and she cussed me something out fears.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Why did I cutt you out?
- 7:43Speaker 3: You cussed me out because of a schedule. You cussed
- 7:47Speaker 3: me out because your time.
- 7:48Speaker 5: Is valuable and every housewife.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Is a sign of producer and the producer Brent that
- 7:55Speaker 3: y'all know. She was like, I'm calling Carlos and she
- 8:00Speaker 3: and when I say, she laid my ass out?
- 8:04Speaker 5: And what you don't know, Cynthia.
- 8:05Speaker 3: I was in the office with Joy who also works
- 8:08Speaker 3: who worked.
- 8:09Speaker 5: On Atlanta hospitals at the time.
- 8:11Speaker 3: Yes, I'll put you on mute because I said, this
- 8:15Speaker 3: bitch just read me, and I'm here for it. And
- 8:18Speaker 3: I remember getting back on the phone saying I'm sorry,
- 8:22Speaker 3: it will never happen again. And then she read me
- 8:25Speaker 3: because she wanted certain people do her interviews.
- 8:27Speaker 5: Cynthia. Cynthia is not like.
- 8:30Speaker 3: This weak woman that people think she is. Cynthia speaks
- 8:35Speaker 3: her mind. And that's what I love about you. That's
- 8:39Speaker 3: the reason why when I think about your time on
- 8:41Speaker 3: the real hospitals at Atlanta and our time together, you
- 8:45Speaker 3: are always a star.
- 8:47Speaker 5: And I want people to know that.
- 8:48Speaker 3: When you came on season three, the network, the production company,
- 8:52Speaker 3: we were all behind you and we were all rooting
- 8:55Speaker 3: for you. You brought class, You brought elegance, you brought sophistication,
- 9:00Speaker 3: You brought another world of an international black woman who
- 9:05Speaker 3: was able to have conversations about things other than what
- 9:09Speaker 3: was happening in Atlanta. So much so the world doesn't
- 9:13Speaker 3: know this. Yes, we know she brought Russell Simson the show.
- 9:15Speaker 3: We know that Miss Thing brought Boris Kojo and Nicole
- 9:18Speaker 3: Ari Parker to do a tennis match scene. Yes, and
- 9:22Speaker 3: it goes to show you that and I don't think
- 9:26Speaker 3: you get the credit you deserve, and I want to
- 9:28Speaker 3: talk about that more. Do you think that what you
- 9:33Speaker 3: brought to Atlanta Housewives changed the game?
- 9:37Speaker 1: Well, first of.
- 9:38Speaker 2: All, thank you for my flowers. You know, it means
- 9:40Speaker 2: the world to me coming from you because you were there.
- 9:42Speaker 2: You were there, you know ninety percent of the time
- 9:46Speaker 2: that I was on.
- 9:46Speaker 1: The Real Housewives.
- 9:48Speaker 2: I do feel like when I came on to the show,
- 9:51Speaker 2: I brought something else that was other than Atlanta. I
- 9:54Speaker 2: brought my world with me that included you know, Miss
- 9:58Speaker 2: Jay from America's Next Time Model, Russell Boris and Nicole
- 10:03Speaker 2: if you can remember, Carlos.
- 10:06Speaker 1: I actually had Tiano Taylor sing at my wedding and
- 10:09Speaker 1: we did.
- 10:09Speaker 2: They didn't show, you know, you know, they're like really
- 10:11Speaker 2: cheap about like you know the you know the music,
- 10:16Speaker 2: but Kim key em not Kim Zozie, but Kim Thea
- 10:21Speaker 2: sang at my wedding and Tiana Taylor and there was
- 10:24Speaker 2: another group. And you know, I felt like for me,
- 10:29Speaker 2: I was coming from a modeling career in New York
- 10:32Speaker 2: City and I really looked at the show like a job.
- 10:36Speaker 2: So that's why I was always very professional. I was
- 10:38Speaker 2: always really excited to throw events. I still think that
- 10:41Speaker 2: some of my events are legendary, honey, Seriously, I mean like,
- 10:46Speaker 2: first of all, for my fiftieth birthday, Like the fact
- 10:49Speaker 2: that I could get my entire cast to come as
- 10:53Speaker 2: me for my birthday, fifty shades of Cynthia, Like who
- 10:56Speaker 2: does that?
- 10:57Speaker 1: Like who could pull that off other than to the
- 11:01Speaker 1: bone cheek Mak.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Bailey, But who also can pull off the belly ball?
- 11:06Speaker 3: Because belly Ball season six, here's some insight.
- 11:10Speaker 5: School for you guys.
- 11:11Speaker 3: Season six, belly Ball, That's when Marlow Toneini, she wore
- 11:15Speaker 3: Donald Trump.
- 11:16Speaker 5: Wig, and that's when the ship went down.
- 11:19Speaker 3: What y'all don't know is we had so much content
- 11:21Speaker 3: season six that other producers who shall remain nameless, said,
- 11:27Speaker 3: do not film Cynthia's belly Bowl.
- 11:30Speaker 5: Did you know that? Yeah?
- 11:32Speaker 2: I know that it would always come to by the
- 11:34Speaker 2: end of the season, I couldn't film any more events
- 11:37Speaker 2: or that many scenes anymore because I had done so much.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Always, because I always showed up.
- 11:42Speaker 2: You know, I was never really like big on bringing
- 11:44Speaker 2: the drama, but I definitely you know, I always felt
- 11:47Speaker 2: like a team player. I always respected everyone else's events,
- 11:50Speaker 2: always showed up and you know, participated, and you know,
- 11:53Speaker 2: I was actually one of the girls that I would
- 11:55Speaker 2: get the phone call from you guys said, hey, we
- 11:57Speaker 2: gotta get.
- 11:58Speaker 1: This name going. You know, we're like three weeks in,
- 12:00Speaker 1: nothing's happened.
- 12:01Speaker 2: We need a Bailly queue, we need we need it.
- 12:03Speaker 2: We need an all cast tomorrow. And I always had,
- 12:06Speaker 2: you know, spaces I had. I had the Bailly Agency
- 12:09Speaker 2: School of Fashion that was a physical place that we
- 12:11Speaker 2: can go and shoot. You know, when Peter and I
- 12:13Speaker 2: were together, we had bar one. We could all go there.
- 12:15Speaker 2: So I was definitely I feel like one of the
- 12:18Speaker 2: first housewives that actually had physical spaces that we could
- 12:21Speaker 2: just pull together an event in two seconds. And I
- 12:23Speaker 2: got that phone call.
- 12:24Speaker 3: A lot for you guys, oh, because you were you
- 12:28Speaker 3: were You were always able to have an event that
- 12:31Speaker 3: made sense for all the casts to go because you know,
- 12:34Speaker 3: everybody don't get along, but everyone got along with you.
- 12:37Speaker 3: So the Belly Bow, we were not supposed to film it.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Y'all know me, No one tells me no. So I
- 12:43Speaker 3: was like child, I'm shooting the Belly Bowl and y'all
- 12:46Speaker 3: gonna have to deal with it. And look what happened.
- 12:49Speaker 3: Cynthia created an event that got some great content. We
- 12:53Speaker 3: would have never seen the destruction of Nini and Marlow's friendship.
- 12:57Speaker 3: I'm gonna take y'all back to season eight, the premiere.
- 13:00Speaker 3: I was actual to comeback season eight because no Shae,
- 13:04Speaker 3: nothing was happening, and I came back.
- 13:07Speaker 5: To the show. Okay, go ahead, I came.
- 13:13Speaker 3: I came back to the show season eight because another
- 13:15Speaker 3: producer was wasn't producing, and I said, we need a
- 13:20Speaker 3: Cynthia Bailly event. And that's when you guys saw the
- 13:24Speaker 3: rooftop celebration of Cynthia's Remember, and that's when Scharay came
- 13:30Speaker 3: in and Sharay and Kenya had their epic moment on
- 13:33Speaker 3: the rooftop.
- 13:34Speaker 5: I'm going to gag you some more.
- 13:35Speaker 3: Season six, we had the White Party at the Bailey Agency,
- 13:40Speaker 3: another Cynthia event, and that's when Ninnie and Kenya got
- 13:43Speaker 3: into it when she said, no, Niche, you're gonna tell
- 13:46Speaker 3: me who I can't cannot invite, because Kenya was mad
- 13:48Speaker 3: that Nini invited Walter to her bdding.
- 13:51Speaker 5: So that's a long way of saying this, y'all need.
- 13:54Speaker 3: To stop fucking around and calling Cynthia borings or not
- 13:59Speaker 3: relevant as the producer who worked on the show seasons
- 14:02Speaker 3: one through nine. I'm telling you, without Cynthia, this show
- 14:07Speaker 3: would not have been the hit that it is.
- 14:09Speaker 1: Oh my god, Carls, You're gonna maybe cry.
- 14:12Speaker 5: Wow.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you. You know, it just feels
- 14:17Speaker 2: good to be recognized, especially by you, Carlos, because I
- 14:22Speaker 2: know you were definitely one of the wizards behind the
- 14:25Speaker 2: curtain all the time making sure the show worked, because
- 14:28Speaker 2: otherwise we would just show up the scenes and just
- 14:30Speaker 2: eat all the food and drink all the cocktails. Any
- 14:32Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And a lot of people
- 14:33Speaker 2: ask me all the time, is the show scripted?
- 14:35Speaker 1: Whatever? But no, of course the show is not scripted.
- 14:37Speaker 1: But they have to put us, you guys, have to
- 14:38Speaker 1: put us in situations. So when people say that I'm boring,
- 14:45Speaker 1: I just.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Kind of look at it like, you know, I've always
- 14:48Speaker 2: tried to handle myself with class and grace. I'm just
- 14:51Speaker 2: always this is who I am. That's just who I am,
- 14:53Speaker 2: and I think it's like my superpower too. I think
- 14:56Speaker 2: that's why the network liked me. I think that's what
- 14:59Speaker 2: may made me such a good fit for the show
- 15:02Speaker 2: at that time that I was just I just honestly
- 15:04Speaker 2: came on being myself and that's it.
- 15:08Speaker 1: That's all I could do.
- 15:09Speaker 2: And it worked for me for eleven amazing, unforgettable, insane
- 15:13Speaker 2: years of just being a part of the Real Housewives
- 15:16Speaker 2: of Atlanta. And you know, anytime, you know, I think
- 15:20Speaker 2: one of the things that I'm proud of is Carlos,
- 15:22Speaker 2: is that I never left who I was. I never
- 15:26Speaker 2: sold my soul. I never did anything that I was
- 15:28Speaker 2: uncomfortable do, and I hate it even when I had to.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Like I remember when Peter and Apollo got together, they
- 15:34Speaker 2: were talking about mister Chocolate whatever, and of course Apollo
- 15:39Speaker 2: told Peter, so of course I had to take it
- 15:41Speaker 2: back to the group. And I tell you, I was
- 15:43Speaker 2: like sitting there because I was like, you know, again,
- 15:46Speaker 2: the show is not scripted, but I knew that I
- 15:48Speaker 2: had to.
- 15:48Speaker 1: Deliver a message.
- 15:50Speaker 2: Okay, So the message was to left Page Renault that
- 15:53Speaker 2: Apollo told Peter that she was like dating.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Somebody named mister Chocolate.
- 15:58Speaker 2: What I tell you, guys, I was sitting at that
- 16:01Speaker 2: table praying for like the electricity to.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Go out for like aliens to.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Invade us like anything. So I did not have to
- 16:09Speaker 2: tell this girl that because as soon as I got
- 16:11Speaker 2: to the scene, Favor was so nice to me.
- 16:13Speaker 1: She was like, oh my god, it looks so cute.
- 16:14Speaker 1: I love your ear rings, I love your sweat, and
- 16:16Speaker 1: I'm like, stop being nice to me. I had to
- 16:18Speaker 1: drop a bomb. Stop being nice to me, because it
- 16:20Speaker 1: just is so hard.
- 16:22Speaker 2: You guys have no idea how difficult it is to
- 16:26Speaker 2: do a reality show like this, because you know, it's
- 16:30Speaker 2: a lot mentally, emotionally, spiritually.
- 16:32Speaker 1: We get a lot to this show and it's very easy.
- 16:34Speaker 2: And now I get to see, you know, as I'm
- 16:37Speaker 2: not on the show anymore, I get to sit back
- 16:39Speaker 2: and watch.
- 16:40Speaker 1: You know, the show, and you know.
- 16:41Speaker 2: From a whole different, you know, with a whole another
- 16:43Speaker 2: set of eyeballs because I'm not a part of that
- 16:46Speaker 2: drama anymore.
- 16:47Speaker 1: And I remember like certain.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Scenes, I would be like, oh my god, I have to, like,
- 16:51Speaker 2: you know, tell the girls what happened. And everybody was
- 16:53Speaker 2: like Kenny was kicking me on the table, like say it,
- 16:56Speaker 2: say it. Claudie was like squeeze my hand, like you
- 16:58Speaker 2: can do it, you can do it. And I think
- 17:00Speaker 2: even Edie was fun to like. Girl, if you don't
- 17:02Speaker 2: go ahead.
- 17:02Speaker 1: And say what yes, it was a mess. It was
- 17:06Speaker 1: a mess.
- 17:07Speaker 2: But I will say I never enjoy even if the
- 17:10Speaker 2: girls that you know, if I was going back and
- 17:11Speaker 2: forth with someone or they really didn't care for me
- 17:13Speaker 2: that season. I always hated to like have to you
- 17:17Speaker 2: know it, I pour their tea to them, honey or
- 17:21Speaker 2: or whatever.
- 17:21Speaker 5: But it goes.
- 17:22Speaker 3: And this is what I want people to know. And
- 17:24Speaker 3: you don't know this. Everybody has a role on these
- 17:27Speaker 3: ensemble shows. And I always tell people and this this
- 17:31Speaker 3: is an exclusive to you, Cynthia. When I cast shows
- 17:35Speaker 3: and create shows, I always say, okay, this is good,
- 17:39Speaker 3: but who's our Cynthia Bailey? I promise you. I told Brent.
- 17:45Speaker 3: I told Brent last week. I said, yeah, I hear you,
- 17:52Speaker 3: but I think she's our Cynthia Bailey. And he understood
- 17:55Speaker 3: what that meant. So I want to explain that to
- 17:57Speaker 3: the audience. Every show has a person who is, you know,
- 18:02Speaker 3: a loud mouth, a shade queen, a little DITSI like,
- 18:07Speaker 3: there's always these different archetypes that they have. And I
- 18:11Speaker 3: always tell people you can't do a show with five
- 18:14Speaker 3: Nini leaks. Five Porschas. You know, you can't do a
- 18:18Speaker 3: show with five Gazelle Bryant's. It doesn't make sense. And
- 18:21Speaker 3: when I tell people you need a Synthia Bailey, you
- 18:24Speaker 3: need someone who's able to bring balance to the show.
- 18:29Speaker 5: You need someone.
- 18:29Speaker 3: Who gives everything of their personal lives to the show.
- 18:33Speaker 5: You need someone that can rally the troops.
- 18:35Speaker 3: So the reason why we always said we need a
- 18:37Speaker 3: Synthi of Belly event, there has never in the history
- 18:41Speaker 3: of the Real Houseports of Atlanta that a girl did
- 18:45Speaker 3: not show up at a synth of Belly event. And
- 18:48Speaker 3: the reason why you have staying power is because you
- 18:51Speaker 3: are always the one to rely on and people don't
- 18:55Speaker 3: understand that when you have a show with a group
- 18:58Speaker 3: of women. Every single show needs a Cynthia Bailey. And
- 19:03Speaker 3: that's why this podcast is for me to honor you.
- 19:06Speaker 3: And one of the other things I want them to
- 19:08Speaker 3: say is Season three would have been a flop without
- 19:13Speaker 3: you because we saw a real relationship go through ups
- 19:21Speaker 3: and downs with Peter Thomas and your mama and your
- 19:25Speaker 3: sister Hot in the marriage certificate, kid, you know it
- 19:28Speaker 3: was it was something we've never seen before, and we
- 19:32Speaker 3: saw the ups.
- 19:32Speaker 5: And downs of your relationship with Peter.
- 19:35Speaker 3: Obviously you two aren't together anymore, and then you were best.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Don't forget about the Frame Contract.
- 19:41Speaker 3: Season Grand Contract season three with Mimi and you guys
- 19:46Speaker 3: being friends.
- 19:47Speaker 5: And I want to ask you this.
- 19:50Speaker 3: I feel like someone said this to you, but I
- 19:53Speaker 3: want you to respond and tell me your truth. Were
- 19:56Speaker 3: you ever told or felt that without Nannie or Peter
- 20:02Speaker 3: that you would not have staying power on the show.
- 20:08Speaker 2: Actually, Peter may have told me yourself were breaking up.
- 20:15Speaker 5: Peter.
- 20:17Speaker 2: I mean, Peter was definitely a huge part of my
- 20:21Speaker 2: story for sure, because we were just honestly, you know,
- 20:24Speaker 2: we had lost everything. We were like struggling, and you know,
- 20:28Speaker 2: we had never saw, like anyone really actually in real
- 20:31Speaker 2: time go through a financial struggle. Like I was like,
- 20:34Speaker 2: you know, paying Tony come, we on a payment plan.
- 20:36Speaker 2: It was like a lot going on, and I was
- 20:38Speaker 2: so stressed out. And I remember when you know, we
- 20:43Speaker 2: were having issues, and I feel like, you know, like
- 20:46Speaker 2: in the middle of an argument he made be like, well,
- 20:47Speaker 2: you know they're not going to keep.
- 20:49Speaker 1: You on the show without me, you know how Peter is.
- 20:51Speaker 6: But anyway, years later, years later, and I actually was
- 21:02Speaker 6: like when he said that.
- 21:03Speaker 1: I was like, you know, here's the thing too. When
- 21:06Speaker 1: Peter and I did.
- 21:07Speaker 2: Decide to go our separate ways, I knew that I
- 21:11Speaker 2: would not drag him publicly.
- 21:13Speaker 1: Again, That's just not who I am. And you know,
- 21:16Speaker 1: it just didn't work out for us.
- 21:17Speaker 5: It just is what it is.
- 21:18Speaker 1: I mean, I'm dragged him. I'll camp we dragged off Camra. Okay,
- 21:23Speaker 1: we definitely had some very you know, he did conversations.
- 21:27Speaker 2: But you know, I'm out of respect for our marriage,
- 21:31Speaker 2: out of respect for him as this as this black man,
- 21:34Speaker 2: this strong black man that he is.
- 21:36Speaker 1: You know, I'm always grateful to Peter because I.
- 21:39Speaker 2: Was living in New York City, minded my business child
- 21:41Speaker 2: when I met Peter Thomas and I decided to move
- 21:43Speaker 2: to Atlanta. He was the one that said to me,
- 21:47Speaker 2: you know what it was at April Love and Satchel
- 21:51Speaker 2: were like, you know, I think they were working with him, Yes,
- 21:54Speaker 2: they were working with him, and they were like, we
- 21:56Speaker 2: love Cynthia. You know, was she ever go on Housewives?
- 21:58Speaker 2: And I was like, what, like, oh no, no, no, no,
- 22:00Speaker 2: I'm not like that girl at all. And he was
- 22:03Speaker 2: the one that convinced me to, you know, take the
- 22:07Speaker 2: meeting and the first person I filmed with to.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Test with, and Joy can tell you this was Derreck
- 22:11Speaker 1: j And I was like, it was in my house.
- 22:13Speaker 1: I mean, that's so many things that happened at that house.
- 22:15Speaker 1: But anyway, long story short, you know, shout out to Peter.
- 22:19Speaker 2: You know, we are I'm always, I'm very I'm I
- 22:24Speaker 2: will be grateful that he convinced me to step out
- 22:29Speaker 2: of my comfort zone and do something different with my life,
- 22:33Speaker 2: something that I was very unfamiliar with, you know, I mean,
- 22:36Speaker 2: who knows how to do a reality show. I was
- 22:38Speaker 2: a model living in New York.
- 22:39Speaker 1: City and that one choice changed my whole life. Like
- 22:44Speaker 1: I was known in a fashion.
- 22:45Speaker 2: Industry, but I wasn't like famous like this, this is crazy,
- 22:48Speaker 2: like you know, when you become a housewife. So anyway,
- 22:51Speaker 2: so Peter Thomas. Shout out to Peter, but he did
- 22:53Speaker 2: throw some shade and say that you know.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 22:58Speaker 2: And then as far as Nanie, I'm sure the fans
- 23:00Speaker 2: myth thought that you know or whatever, and that's fine.
- 23:05Speaker 2: When I came onto the show, I was pretty much
- 23:08Speaker 2: given Nini.
- 23:09Speaker 1: Like Nini was like, we're like, okay, you're gonna be.
- 23:10Speaker 2: Friends with me, and we actually had only met like once,
- 23:15Speaker 2: and I'm so glad that we can break the four
- 23:16Speaker 2: wall now and just like tell people how the show works.
- 23:19Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the best things that
- 23:20Speaker 2: happened actually when I went on girls trip, that we
- 23:23Speaker 2: could just say, hey, you know, this is what it is,
- 23:25Speaker 2: this is what's happening and whatever.
- 23:27Speaker 1: So but we went to Papado's and I remember she
- 23:31Speaker 1: was like huge, like she was like blowing up, like
- 23:34Speaker 1: she was like she was the breakout star of the show.
- 23:36Speaker 1: And I, as God would have it, was, you know,
- 23:39Speaker 1: they placed me with.
- 23:40Speaker 2: Nini, So I felt like, to be honest, I did
- 23:44Speaker 2: feel like there was some safety under the wings of
- 23:47Speaker 2: being with Nini on the show because literally all I
- 23:50Speaker 2: had to really do was just be myself and she
- 23:54Speaker 2: really just had to be Nini and I was just
- 23:56Speaker 2: her friend. I was she would have to bring everything
- 23:58Speaker 2: back to me. So I did feel some comfortability like, Okay, well,
- 24:04Speaker 2: you know, Niani's not going anywhere anytime soon.
- 24:07Speaker 1: She started the show.
- 24:08Speaker 2: So if I'm with if I'm our best girlfriend, then
- 24:11Speaker 2: that gives me some you know, some kind of safety
- 24:14Speaker 2: because you know, we we shoot so much together. So
- 24:17Speaker 2: I did I did feel that for sure. So I
- 24:19Speaker 2: always would give you know, my props to Nini as well.
- 24:22Speaker 5: No, we will too.
- 24:23Speaker 3: And speaking of props, so she recently did an interview
- 24:28Speaker 3: and someone complimented, you sing your beautiful and her response was, oh,
- 24:32Speaker 3: really have you seen her in person?
- 24:34Speaker 5: I'm sure you brought U saw the video.
- 24:36Speaker 1: Everyone was sending it to me, as.
- 24:38Speaker 5: Did you say that as shade?
- 24:41Speaker 2: I take that as shade, of course, but I also
- 24:43Speaker 2: know Nini, and you know, at this point, I'm just
- 24:46Speaker 2: not surprised, you know, when she throws shade my way, certainly.
- 24:51Speaker 2: You know, sometimes people don't see you as you see yourself.
- 24:54Speaker 2: I think I look great in person, and.
- 24:58Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 24:58Speaker 1: And you know what's so funny our fans, and I'm
- 25:01Speaker 1: sure the other ladies get it.
- 25:02Speaker 2: As well, like when I tell you, every time I
- 25:05Speaker 2: meet a fan, the first thing they say is, oh
- 25:07Speaker 2: my god, you're so much prettier in person than you're
- 25:09Speaker 2: on TVs. And that's the funny thing. And I'm sure
- 25:11Speaker 2: she's gotten the same thing as well. But you know,
- 25:14Speaker 2: I'm just in a place in my life, Carlos, where
- 25:17Speaker 2: I just choose not to participate in anything that's negative energy,
- 25:25Speaker 2: Like I'm really in Cynthia protection mode over here, and
- 25:29Speaker 2: I'm very focused on my acting career and this next
- 25:34Speaker 2: chapter as I you know, leave a marriage and start
- 25:37Speaker 2: rebuilding my life.
- 25:39Speaker 1: It's all love over here. You know. I just laughed,
- 25:42Speaker 1: and I mean, was I shocked?
- 25:43Speaker 2: No, But you know she did reach out to me
- 25:46Speaker 2: and and you know, offer to have drinks or whatever
- 25:49Speaker 2: and said she was sorry about my marriage.
- 25:51Speaker 1: So I hope that that was genuine. But I don't
- 25:54Speaker 1: know we're gonna be having them drinks anytime soon, but.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Since right after she would right show it like you know,
- 26:02Speaker 2: you know, shaded me for no reason.
- 26:03Speaker 1: So whatever, I.
- 26:07Speaker 3: Hate you interrupt, but stay tuned for more. We'll be
- 26:10Speaker 3: right back after these quick ads. This is reality with
- 26:20Speaker 3: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
- 26:24Speaker 3: the show. You are always a classy woman, and you
- 26:29Speaker 3: talked about, you know, leaving your marriage and as someone
- 26:32Speaker 3: who knows you personally and saw you fight for your
- 26:35Speaker 3: marriage with Peter against your own.
- 26:37Speaker 5: Mom and sister.
- 26:39Speaker 3: Because when you love Cynthia being an Aquarius, you love
- 26:42Speaker 3: herd and you love I'm.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Sorry, yes, well I'm on the customer PI gonna Okay.
- 26:51Speaker 3: The Aquarius is the love side. The pisces are the
- 26:53Speaker 3: sex side, because you're also freaking the sheets according to Peter.
- 26:57Speaker 5: So anyway, so okay, we I just want to offer
- 27:06Speaker 5: this up to you.
- 27:07Speaker 3: You know, you have my condolences because I know getting
- 27:10Speaker 3: married for you is something that means a lot.
- 27:14Speaker 5: To you, and you take a hile seriously.
- 27:17Speaker 3: And I've got the pleasure of meeting Mike Hill because
- 27:19Speaker 3: I was on his network and he has interviewed me
- 27:23Speaker 3: and he's been nothing but sweet and nice, and Mike,
- 27:26Speaker 3: if you're listening, high and I love you too. A
- 27:30Speaker 3: lot of people Cynthia have said things like, Cynthia, girl,
- 27:33Speaker 3: you didn't see the red flags. I mean, the man
- 27:36Speaker 3: wrote in his memoir how he was never faithful to
- 27:39Speaker 3: a girlfriend of his his ex wives. You know, experance
- 27:43Speaker 3: all these things, did you. How do you feel when
- 27:46Speaker 3: people say, Cynthia, the red flags were there and you
- 27:50Speaker 3: chose to ignore them.
- 27:51Speaker 2: Well, what I say to that, Carlos is, you know,
- 27:57Speaker 2: people don't know what's all the ins and outs of
- 28:02Speaker 2: someone else's marriage.
- 28:03Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This is my second time
- 28:05Speaker 1: being married, and.
- 28:09Speaker 2: Of course, like I take people as they are, So
- 28:12Speaker 2: I mean, there were red flags with Peter, but I
- 28:13Speaker 2: still married him.
- 28:14Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 28:16Speaker 2: I think people are going to have red flags, But
- 28:18Speaker 2: at the same time, I'm a loving woman.
- 28:21Speaker 1: I'm a forgiving woman again. I meet people where.
- 28:25Speaker 2: They are, and I think that, you know, when I
- 28:28Speaker 2: went with Mike, when I decided to be with Mike,
- 28:31Speaker 2: when I fell in love with Mike, I felt like
- 28:34Speaker 2: whatever was going on in his past, that was his past,
- 28:38Speaker 2: that has nothing to do is how, nothing to do
- 28:40Speaker 2: with how he's going to show up with me. And
- 28:44Speaker 2: you know, we had an incredible, incredible years together. We honestly,
- 28:48Speaker 2: honestly did. And to be completely transparent, I still very
- 28:52Speaker 2: much love Mike Hill.
- 28:54Speaker 1: I'm still healing.
- 28:55Speaker 2: You know, you guys saw the announcement, but we're still
- 28:58Speaker 2: Like I thought I was gonna be with this man forever,
- 29:01Speaker 2: and I believe that he felt like he was going
- 29:03Speaker 2: to be with me forever as well, and we just
- 29:06Speaker 2: made the adult decision because you know, my life, his life,
- 29:09Speaker 2: my happiness, His happiness is important. I'm fifty five years old,
- 29:14Speaker 2: maybe twenty five thirty more summers left in my life,
- 29:17Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, So it's very important for
- 29:20Speaker 2: me to to have peace and to be happy, and
- 29:23Speaker 2: we just got to a place where, you know, I'm
- 29:26Speaker 2: going through a new transition with a job. You know,
- 29:28Speaker 2: I don't technically have a job yet, you know what
- 29:31Speaker 2: I'm saying. But I'm working hard, I'm growing as an actress.
- 29:36Speaker 2: You know, I'm a hustler, I'm a boss, I'm all
- 29:38Speaker 2: of those things. You know, he's in transition with his life.
- 29:42Speaker 2: You know, we just met at a place where we
- 29:45Speaker 2: would just be better off his friends at this point,
- 29:48Speaker 2: and that's just honestly what it is. But one thing
- 29:51Speaker 2: I do want to clear up, though, what I do
- 29:53Speaker 2: see and I don't like is when people say, girl,
- 29:55Speaker 2: just give it up. You've been married like multiple times.
- 29:57Speaker 2: You've been you know, you know how many times you
- 29:59Speaker 2: go get married. Maybe you're just not the marriage type.
- 30:01Speaker 2: Maybe you're just you know, you know, you just should
- 30:03Speaker 2: just be with someone. You should never get married again.
- 30:05Speaker 2: Let me just first say, I've been married twice. That's
- 30:08Speaker 2: not multiple, that's two times. Okay, It's not like I've
- 30:11Speaker 2: been married like ten times and nothing worked out for me.
- 30:14Speaker 2: Twice and the first marriage, God, can you get some
- 30:17Speaker 2: grace on the first one. You don't know what you're
- 30:18Speaker 2: doing the first time you get married. This is your
- 30:20Speaker 2: first marriage, and I learned a lot from that marriage,
- 30:22Speaker 2: and I took a lot of wisdom into my second marriage,
- 30:26Speaker 2: and I didn't make the same mistakes in my second
- 30:28Speaker 2: marriage that I made in my first marriage. So I
- 30:31Speaker 2: say to the people that say that, let's just get
- 30:33Speaker 2: it the fact straight. I've been married twice and I
- 30:36Speaker 2: am a piscis woman. I am a lover of love.
- 30:40Speaker 5: I love with my heart.
- 30:42Speaker 2: I jump in both feet first, and that is my
- 30:46Speaker 2: choice because this is my life and I'm the only
- 30:48Speaker 2: person that has to live in and I have no regrets.
- 30:51Speaker 1: I have no regrets with.
- 30:52Speaker 2: Leon, with Peter, with anyone that I have given my
- 30:57Speaker 2: life to, and.
- 30:58Speaker 1: I am looking so forward to my future.
- 31:02Speaker 2: I'm still very optimistic and hopeful of funding love again,
- 31:06Speaker 2: however it comes. If it's a boot a bay a marriage,
- 31:09Speaker 2: I don't know what it's going to be, but I'm
- 31:11Speaker 2: here for it and I'm ready to receive it whenever,
- 31:15Speaker 2: whenever God wants me to have that.
- 31:17Speaker 1: And I think it's crazy to think that someone isn't
- 31:24Speaker 1: deserving of, you know, figuring it out. You know what
- 31:32Speaker 1: I'm saying.
- 31:32Speaker 2: It's like I mean, jay Log can get married how
- 31:34Speaker 2: many times she wants to, and it seems to be
- 31:36Speaker 2: working out for her.
- 31:36Speaker 5: Okay, now that's knowledge. Get married twice, now that's that's
- 31:41Speaker 5: tea and no. And the thing about is this.
- 31:43Speaker 3: You are a woman who's been famous and successful since
- 31:47Speaker 3: you were fifteen years old, and I don't think people
- 31:50Speaker 3: understand that that you have always been independent and when
- 31:56Speaker 3: you when you go through life, you go through these
- 31:59Speaker 3: abbs and flows because at the end of the day,
- 32:00Speaker 3: you're trying to figure things out. And a lot of people,
- 32:03Speaker 3: even when they tweet, think Cynthia like girl. We saw
- 32:06Speaker 3: the tweets with Mike hil He was blurting, what do
- 32:09Speaker 3: you say to people who think that infidelity was a
- 32:12Speaker 3: part of this decision?
- 32:13Speaker 1: Well, I say to.
- 32:15Speaker 2: Them, first and foremost, it's none of It's none of
- 32:19Speaker 2: their business, to be honest, you know, marriages can survive
- 32:24Speaker 2: infidelity number one. And I'm not you know, I'm at
- 32:27Speaker 2: age where most of my friends are either married or divorced.
- 32:31Speaker 2: And believe me, the ones that are married have gone
- 32:33Speaker 2: through a lot and they decided to stay. And worse
- 32:37Speaker 2: than infidelity sometimes, you know, you know, children have been.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Born in marriages and people still decide to stay. So
- 32:45Speaker 1: with that said, what I say is live your life,
- 32:49Speaker 1: and live your life because you're the only person that
- 32:52Speaker 1: can live it.
- 32:53Speaker 2: And you know, it's like, whatever my cross is the bears,
- 32:57Speaker 2: it's my own personal decision to deal with whatever I
- 33:00Speaker 2: choose to deal with because it is my life and
- 33:03Speaker 2: to each his own. You know, love is love and
- 33:06Speaker 2: at the end of the day, what you choose, what
- 33:09Speaker 2: works for you, what works for your marriage, is completely
- 33:11Speaker 2: your choice and your option.
- 33:13Speaker 3: And to get away from the rumors, this is my
- 33:15Speaker 3: last question about that. One of the things that people
- 33:18Speaker 3: have said to say things because I want I want
- 33:20Speaker 3: you to use this to be able to debunk all
- 33:22Speaker 3: these rumors, and because you're not close friends, I want
- 33:25Speaker 3: to give you the opportunity.
- 33:26Speaker 1: To do that.
- 33:27Speaker 3: One of the things that people have said is, you know,
- 33:29Speaker 3: Mike Hill wrote in his book how when the Steve
- 33:33Speaker 3: Harvey show happened, it was an opportunity for him to
- 33:36Speaker 3: cross over in the entertainment space. And obviously you're somebody
- 33:41Speaker 3: who is on the biggest reality show in the world,
- 33:44Speaker 3: and people felt that after you weren't as back. That's
- 33:48Speaker 3: also a reason why the marriage didn't work because he
- 33:50Speaker 3: no longer had the show to promote himself.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So.
- 33:56Speaker 2: Two part question as far as him going onto the
- 34:01Speaker 2: Steve Harvey Show as an opportunity to get exposure, whatever
- 34:04Speaker 2: his reasons were probably so you know what I'm saying,
- 34:09Speaker 2: I didn't know him, he didn't know me. You know
- 34:11Speaker 2: it is it was a national TV show.
- 34:13Speaker 1: So whoever, whatever his decision was, I don't.
- 34:16Speaker 2: Have an issue with that, you know what I'm saying.
- 34:19Speaker 2: So if that's that was his reason, and that probably
- 34:22Speaker 2: was his reason.
- 34:23Speaker 1: Okay, fine, so be it. People you know want to
- 34:25Speaker 1: get exposure. That's what it is. He didn't know.
- 34:28Speaker 2: First of all, I didn't know if I was going
- 34:29Speaker 2: to pick him, so you know, it could have went
- 34:31Speaker 2: that was, you know, two of the very nice men
- 34:34Speaker 2: there to choose from, So.
- 34:35Speaker 1: He didn't know.
- 34:36Speaker 2: So good for him that he's you know, trying to
- 34:38Speaker 2: use whatever platforms he can to get.
- 34:40Speaker 1: Exposure, to get exposure to do the things that he's
- 34:43Speaker 1: trying to do with his life. Okay.
- 34:46Speaker 2: The other part, in terms of me going back not
- 34:48Speaker 2: going back to the show. You know, it's interesting because
- 34:50Speaker 2: a lot of people, a lot of people were saying oh,
- 34:53Speaker 2: you know, you know, she probably didn't go back because
- 34:55Speaker 2: Mike didn't want her to go back.
- 34:56Speaker 1: One of the things I will say to you is
- 34:58Speaker 1: I've been married on this show twice. Okay, I will
- 35:03Speaker 1: never say that this show breaks up marriages. I won't
- 35:10Speaker 1: say that, But what I will say, I will.
- 35:13Speaker 2: Say it's very hard to start a marriage and be
- 35:17Speaker 2: on a show like this because you have to give
- 35:21Speaker 2: so much of your marriage and you're still really you know,
- 35:26Speaker 2: getting to know like the person that you're married to.
- 35:28Speaker 2: And I feel like, you know, once you actually become
- 35:30Speaker 2: married and become husband and wife, that's really you know,
- 35:34Speaker 2: where it becomes more sacred than just dating. And some
- 35:39Speaker 2: things are just just that, some things are sacred. So
- 35:42Speaker 2: with that said and done, with everything that I went,
- 35:45Speaker 2: I gave so much with my marriage with Peter. Honestly,
- 35:49Speaker 2: you know me not really you know, wanting to share
- 35:52Speaker 2: that or feeling like I wanted to share that once
- 35:56Speaker 2: Mike and I became married. Really was just me protecting
- 35:59Speaker 2: myself and my marriage. But I will say Mike had nothing.
- 36:05Speaker 1: To do with me not going back.
- 36:07Speaker 2: If anything, if I had to lean one way to
- 36:09Speaker 2: the other, I think he was happy that I did that,
- 36:12Speaker 2: I didn't go back, to be honest with you, and
- 36:14Speaker 2: he was the one that was always saying, hey, you
- 36:16Speaker 2: know what, I feel like, you're definitely someone that can
- 36:19Speaker 2: transition into other things. You know you've done You've done
- 36:22Speaker 2: such a great job on this platform. You know, you
- 36:24Speaker 2: have a great relationship with the network. You know, you're
- 36:27Speaker 2: Cynthia Bla you you you know, you still have so
- 36:30Speaker 2: much that you can do with your career. So if
- 36:33Speaker 2: it went one way or the other, it was definitely
- 36:35Speaker 2: Mike pretty much encouraging me to believe in myself to
- 36:39Speaker 2: take that leap of faith after eleven years of being
- 36:41Speaker 2: a consistent housewife on the Real Housewives of Atlanta to
- 36:45Speaker 2: do other things, which which was something that I personally
- 36:48Speaker 2: wanted to do.
- 36:49Speaker 1: And in terms of me not going back.
- 36:51Speaker 2: To the show, let's get this straight too, because I
- 36:53Speaker 2: know a lot of times I think I saw like
- 36:55Speaker 2: a clip of one of your podcasts.
- 36:57Speaker 1: You know a lot of times when people get fired
- 36:58Speaker 1: from the show, they'll you.
- 36:59Speaker 2: Know, the network always gives them grace to just you know,
- 37:03Speaker 2: put whatever narrative they want out, which is very nice
- 37:06Speaker 2: of them to do that. Okay, I've always been very
- 37:08Speaker 2: transparent with how my eleven year run run on The
- 37:13Speaker 2: Real House West Atlanta ended. For me, I was honestly
- 37:18Speaker 2: in a place where I just didn't feel like I
- 37:21Speaker 2: really felt like I had that full circle moment, Like
- 37:23Speaker 2: I just didn't I wasn't having that much fun with
- 37:26Speaker 2: it anymore.
- 37:27Speaker 1: I felt like I didn't really have a lot to give.
- 37:29Speaker 2: I did want to like just kind of get to
- 37:31Speaker 2: know my husband off camera and just spend time with
- 37:34Speaker 2: him and not have to shoot because we shoot a
- 37:36Speaker 2: lot in Atlanta, like it's a very rigorous schedule.
- 37:39Speaker 1: So for me, that was that was my thought process.
- 37:44Speaker 2: So when The Real House was Atlanta did start back up,
- 37:48Speaker 2: I got a call from my girl of Rain and
- 37:51Speaker 2: basically they were interested in me coming back as a friend,
- 37:55Speaker 2: which which I actually entertained to be honest, because this
- 37:59Speaker 2: is how the friend games changed. People are housewives one
- 38:03Speaker 2: season friends one season. I mean you you were like
- 38:05Speaker 2: definitely instrumental and like, you know, some housewives starting off
- 38:10Speaker 2: as housewives.
- 38:11Speaker 1: And becoming friends. But by the time you know, you know,
- 38:13Speaker 1: the season wrapped up or whatever, so you know, they
- 38:16Speaker 1: do it in all the other franchises.
- 38:17Speaker 2: Like the friend thing is not a bad deal, Like,
- 38:20Speaker 2: it's not like I know people though, you know, you
- 38:22Speaker 2: have to be a housewife. I've seen people be housewives,
- 38:25Speaker 2: be friends, they'd be housewives again.
- 38:27Speaker 1: Be friends again.
- 38:27Speaker 2: It's like it's involved. The show has evolved so much
- 38:29Speaker 2: in terms of what a friend of the show means
- 38:33Speaker 2: exactly exactly. Now she's back as a full time housewife
- 38:36Speaker 2: and that's that's great. So I love that Number one
- 38:39Speaker 2: of the network gave me that option because I really thought, well,
- 38:42Speaker 2: maybe this is a way because although I had my
- 38:45Speaker 2: reasons for feeling like it wasn't right for me to
- 38:48Speaker 2: go back to the show, I definitely felt like, you know,
- 38:50Speaker 2: it was kind of hard to cut the core and
- 38:51Speaker 2: just be like, Okay, I'm just done with housewives. So
- 38:54Speaker 2: I was like, maybe the friend brow is a way
- 38:56Speaker 2: I can just shoot sometimes and still be.
- 38:59Speaker 1: Able to focus on acting and focus on my marriage.
- 39:02Speaker 1: But what I realized is really, you know the friends,
- 39:06Speaker 1: you know, they do a lot of work too. Friends
- 39:09Speaker 1: gotta go on the trips, the friends. The friends still
- 39:12Speaker 1: have to show up everything. And I was like inflence money.
- 39:16Speaker 1: So I was like, well, now, okay, once I think
- 39:20Speaker 1: about like, unless I can just pop up like you
- 39:22Speaker 1: know three times in the season.
- 39:25Speaker 2: Then I'm pretty much working, except I'm just not a housewife,
- 39:28Speaker 2: and you know, I'm just making a smaller check. So
- 39:32Speaker 2: I just thought, you know what, I'm gonna go ahead.
- 39:34Speaker 2: I appreciate this good offer, but.
- 39:36Speaker 1: I'm going to gracefully decline on that one. Okay, And
- 39:40Speaker 1: but it was but it's great. I did think about that,
- 39:42Speaker 1: but I was never like, oh, I was fired. I
- 39:44Speaker 1: guess I don't know what that's called.
- 39:46Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, No, it's a thing.
- 39:50Speaker 3: It's a thing, because obviously I said something like these
- 39:52Speaker 3: are the housewives who quit or whatever, and listen, I
- 39:56Speaker 3: will admit when I'm wrong, because everything's about wordplay.
- 39:59Speaker 5: And at the end of the day, you weren't fired.
- 40:01Speaker 3: You were offered a lesser row than a peach holder
- 40:05Speaker 3: and you chose not to accept it, and that doesn't
- 40:08Speaker 3: mean you got fired. So I want to make that clear,
- 40:10Speaker 3: and you're right about that. But I want to ask
- 40:13Speaker 3: you this though, on some honest shit.
- 40:16Speaker 5: Did it as someone who has watched you give at
- 40:21Speaker 5: bird read thing to this show.
- 40:24Speaker 3: You gave every god she gave, every piece of her
- 40:27Speaker 3: life to the real Hospital of Atlanta. Did it ever
- 40:31Speaker 3: come a moment when you felt like the moment you
- 40:35Speaker 3: were told to be, the moment you were asked to
- 40:37Speaker 3: be a friend of. Did you have a moment where
- 40:39Speaker 3: you were like, well, damn, Like I gave everything to
- 40:43Speaker 3: the show and you got some chicks on this show
- 40:45Speaker 3: who ain't given half of what I gave and they get.
- 40:47Speaker 5: To still be on.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Honestly, it always feels good to be wanted. Okay,
- 40:57Speaker 2: it always feels good to have that. You know, I've
- 41:01Speaker 2: never not gotten that letter. I've never not gotten that
- 41:04Speaker 2: letter early. Okay, I well those let us go out.
- 41:08Speaker 2: My letters usually at the top of the list. Okay,
- 41:10Speaker 2: let's just be very clear. I've never had the network.
- 41:13Speaker 1: Like you guys have never called me and said, hey,
- 41:15Speaker 1: we need to talk to you. We're not sure if
- 41:17Speaker 1: we want to bring you back. You're not.
- 41:19Speaker 2: There was never a point in any of the seasons
- 41:20Speaker 2: where anyone, you know, the Bravo people were like, hey,
- 41:23Speaker 2: well you know you're not bringing en up.
- 41:25Speaker 1: Well I never I.
- 41:27Speaker 5: Never had to be.
- 41:30Speaker 1: They never had to like talk to me about like
- 41:33Speaker 1: me delivering or anything like that.
- 41:34Speaker 2: So I've just had like eleven really very successful years
- 41:38Speaker 2: where I didn't hear from the network at all. I
- 41:41Speaker 2: just got my letter back and I went back to work.
- 41:43Speaker 2: If anything, they rewarded me in other small ways.
- 41:45Speaker 1: But like, you know, I did so much.
- 41:47Speaker 2: I did many commercials with them, like I was always
- 41:50Speaker 2: you know, my daughter Noel has done work with them
- 41:53Speaker 2: like I was, you know, really that girl that I
- 41:56Speaker 2: felt like although I was in the star of the
- 41:58Speaker 2: show or if I never like, people never looked at
- 42:01Speaker 2: me that way. You know, I never said next day Dad,
- 42:04Speaker 2: never was in the middle or any of those things.
- 42:05Speaker 2: I felt like the network always gave me other things
- 42:10Speaker 2: to say, we appreciate you, okay. And I don't tak
- 42:13Speaker 2: take those things for granted because they were amazing, amazing
- 42:16Speaker 2: spots for me for me to get.
- 42:18Speaker 1: And and you know, you know very you know, great
- 42:21Speaker 1: money as well. So I didn't look at it like
- 42:25Speaker 1: a slap in the face or anything like that.
- 42:27Speaker 2: I just kind of looked at it like, all right, Yeah,
- 42:30Speaker 2: in a perfect world, you know, nobody wants you to
- 42:32Speaker 2: break up with them. You want to break you know,
- 42:35Speaker 2: you don't want them to break them with you. You
- 42:36Speaker 2: want to break them with them even if you want
- 42:37Speaker 2: to leave. You're like, can I just break up with you? Though, key,
- 42:40Speaker 2: just send me my letter and let me just tell
- 42:42Speaker 2: you I don't want to come back, you know, Can
- 42:46Speaker 2: you just give me that, like we both are gonna
- 42:48Speaker 2: get what we wanted to end. You know what I'm saying,
- 42:50Speaker 2: I'm not gonna come back, but at least I could say,
- 42:52Speaker 2: you know what.
- 42:52Speaker 1: I You know I was asked, and you know I didn't.
- 42:56Speaker 1: You know whatever. You don't understand. It feels good to
- 42:58Speaker 1: cut it off with with someone before they cut it
- 43:01Speaker 1: off with you.
- 43:01Speaker 2: But honestly, at the end of the day, because my
- 43:03Speaker 2: heart was so heavy about even coming back in any
- 43:06Speaker 2: capacity at that point, I was just I don't know
- 43:12Speaker 2: if I ever would have cut the cut the cord
- 43:14Speaker 2: if they had sent me a housewife letter back, because
- 43:17Speaker 2: I think I would.
- 43:17Speaker 1: Have been because you know, Mama was making a cheap
- 43:20Speaker 1: boone Baylor. People's doing good that much.
- 43:22Speaker 5: Oh No, you were making a lot of money. Hard
- 43:26Speaker 5: to cut off, you know, Oh trust me, I was
- 43:29Speaker 5: making a lot of money when I left too.
- 43:31Speaker 3: I get it.
- 43:32Speaker 5: Look the check is you okay?
- 43:35Speaker 3: Hence my background, So as we wrap things up, you
- 43:41Speaker 3: are somebody who loves love. I know that you're still
- 43:44Speaker 3: technically married, but are you dating anyone, a man.
- 43:49Speaker 5: A woman, Like, what's going off with Cynthia's love life?
- 43:53Speaker 2: Well, I am dating, I'm I'm dating myself. I'm dating
- 43:57Speaker 2: myself right now. I am loving all myself, Carlos. I
- 44:01Speaker 2: had three hour massage last night. I'm really taking some
- 44:05Speaker 2: time to just get back to me. But I am
- 44:07Speaker 2: absolutely one open to to dating soon without question. I
- 44:13Speaker 2: do miss and want companionship. Mike and I are friends,
- 44:18Speaker 2: uh without benefits.
- 44:19Speaker 3: So.
- 44:23Speaker 5: Are there?
- 44:24Speaker 1: Do you think it's still married?
- 44:26Speaker 5: So I'll I mean, are you having benefits with other people?
- 44:32Speaker 2: No?
- 44:32Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no no no.
- 44:33Speaker 2: I'm totally into my own thing right now. And I
- 44:38Speaker 2: am actually I am actually celibate. And you know, even
- 44:41Speaker 2: before we announced everything, you know, we had cut off
- 44:43Speaker 2: that part a while, you know, before that because we
- 44:46Speaker 2: were like, you know, we're going through it and then
- 44:48Speaker 2: you know, we're going through it privately and.
- 44:50Speaker 1: That means you know, no sex, like going through it.
- 44:53Speaker 2: So anyway, but yeah, it's been a minute, it's been
- 44:57Speaker 2: a minute, and you know, I'm here at Lake Bailey.
- 45:02Speaker 2: I'm still spending my time between La and Atlanta. But
- 45:05Speaker 2: I do think that I'm going to spend a little
- 45:08Speaker 2: spend a little bit more time in Atlanta in my
- 45:10Speaker 2: house because it feels good to be back in my space.
- 45:13Speaker 1: And I am very open to dating at some point
- 45:17Speaker 1: for sure.
- 45:18Speaker 5: You know, Peter is still single. Would you ever want
- 45:22Speaker 5: to see Peter again?
- 45:24Speaker 2: Okay, that's let me correct you on that, Carlos. First
- 45:27Speaker 2: of all, do you believe Peter has a girlfriend?
- 45:29Speaker 1: That's number one? Number two? What he does have a girlfriend?
- 45:34Speaker 1: You need to have him on your show, Chot, because
- 45:36Speaker 1: he does have a girlfriend.
- 45:37Speaker 5: I don't have my show. And he's dating. He's not exclusive, Okay,
- 45:40Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
- 45:40Speaker 2: Well, he's dating and he seems very very happy with
- 45:44Speaker 2: who he's with, So kudos to shout out to Peter
- 45:47Speaker 2: and his and whoever he's dating.
- 45:49Speaker 5: Okay, haven't paid you your money back?
- 45:50Speaker 3: Because he was just straw over that lawsuit, honey, over
- 45:53Speaker 3: the one hundred and seventy thousand.
- 45:54Speaker 5: He was sad sat the I Did Peter ever pay
- 45:56Speaker 5: you back the money?
- 45:57Speaker 2: Girl?
- 45:58Speaker 6: Yes?
- 45:58Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Peter and I are good.
- 46:01Speaker 2: Peter and I are good, and he has been very
- 46:04Speaker 2: very nice to me throughout this whole process, and he
- 46:08Speaker 2: has made it very clear to me that he feels
- 46:12Speaker 2: like I you know, he's you know, sad that things
- 46:15Speaker 2: didn't work out with Mike and that I deserve happiness,
- 46:19Speaker 2: and he wishes me well, and he's you know, you know, nice,
- 46:22Speaker 2: nice things, as he should. But you know, Leo will
- 46:26Speaker 2: tell you the same thing, and and Mike will tell
- 46:27Speaker 2: you the same thing.
- 46:28Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't leave relationships and disarray in
- 46:34Speaker 1: that way.
- 46:34Speaker 2: Like it's always very important to me to have respect
- 46:37Speaker 2: and honor for whoever it is that I'm with, and.
- 46:42Speaker 1: And that's what I have. And that's exactly you know
- 46:44Speaker 1: what Mike and I will have as well. And that's it.
- 46:46Speaker 2: So we'll see, I mean say, I mean, when I,
- 46:49Speaker 2: you know, do meet somebody, you know, God is moving
- 46:51Speaker 2: my steps and if he moves a man uh down
- 46:54Speaker 2: this driveway.
- 46:54Speaker 1: At Lake Bailey, I'll come back on the podcast and
- 46:59Speaker 1: we talk about it.
- 47:00Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, okay.
- 47:03Speaker 3: So enclosing, I always have a former housewife or current
- 47:08Speaker 3: housewife for that matter, answer this question.
- 47:11Speaker 5: So my last question is this, Okay, name.
- 47:14Speaker 3: If you were ever to go back on the Real
- 47:16Speaker 3: Housepital of Atlanta and they told you you could come
- 47:21Speaker 3: back with the cast of your choice. Okay, but it
- 47:24Speaker 3: only has to be five ooh, okay, so including yourself
- 47:29Speaker 3: makes four other housewives. What four other housewives and your
- 47:35Speaker 3: dreamcast would you bring back with you?
- 47:37Speaker 2: Oh boy? Okay Eva, because she's my friend, Kennya. We
- 47:45Speaker 2: just made up and we're good again, and I love her.
- 47:47Speaker 2: Even when I was mad at her, I still loved her. Okay,
- 47:53Speaker 2: So I get two more, right, Candy, she's my girl,
- 47:57Speaker 2: and uh.
- 48:00Speaker 1: Who else?
- 48:00Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna say, poor chef, because we
- 48:02Speaker 2: always had fun filming.
- 48:03Speaker 5: Together, even when you kicked her.
- 48:06Speaker 1: Okay, Listen, I was under the influence. I was going through,
- 48:12Speaker 1: uh you know, some stressful times in my marriage. You
- 48:15Speaker 1: guys did know that, and we were drinking and having
- 48:17Speaker 1: a good time. But you know that's so crazy because
- 48:20Speaker 1: I was.
- 48:20Speaker 2: Thinking about that too, Like when I think about like
- 48:22Speaker 2: all the memories and how like you, Oh my god,
- 48:26Speaker 2: like I remember like when that happened, like you like tackled.
- 48:30Speaker 1: Her and everything, and I was just like, oh my god,
- 48:32Speaker 1: this is so crazy, so crazy.
- 48:34Speaker 5: You're a legend. You're legend.
- 48:35Speaker 3: You you listen, you have great moments. I am so
- 48:39Speaker 3: happy you came in this podcast, and I want the
- 48:41Speaker 3: world to know this. I've said this to you personally.
- 48:43Speaker 3: I'll say it again and I'll say it publicly. I
- 48:47Speaker 3: adore you, I love you. You are a great woman,
- 48:50Speaker 3: a great human being. You are probably, in my opinion,
- 48:54Speaker 3: the most underrated housewife. And as somebody who has worked
- 48:58Speaker 3: closely with you, I know that time and effort you
- 49:01Speaker 3: have put into making that show great. And as God
- 49:05Speaker 3: is my witness, as God is my witness, you were
- 49:10Speaker 3: a formidable part of the success of that show.
- 49:13Speaker 5: And I think people don't.
- 49:14Speaker 3: Give you enough credit because at the end of the day,
- 49:18Speaker 3: at the end of the day, the best cast of
- 49:22Speaker 3: housewives history will always be the season six cast of
- 49:27Speaker 3: The Real Housewives of Atlanta, because I know first hand
- 49:31Speaker 3: each six of those women brought some excellence and something
- 49:35Speaker 3: great to the show. And because season six was the
- 49:39Speaker 3: greatest season of all time is because of those six women,
- 49:44Speaker 3: and obviously it includes Cynthia. So I thank you, I
- 49:48Speaker 3: love you, thank you for blessing me. And before I cry,
- 49:52Speaker 3: tell the world child where they could follow you and
- 49:53Speaker 3: find you.
- 49:54Speaker 5: Honey.
- 49:55Speaker 2: Well, first of all, honestly, when I got the call
- 49:58Speaker 2: to get on this podcast, I was yes, Yes, one
- 50:01Speaker 2: of the Carlos podcasts, because you know, we've had.
- 50:04Speaker 1: Some moments, And I want you to know, King, Carlos King,
- 50:09Speaker 1: I could not have.
- 50:11Speaker 2: Done Real Housewives without you, Honestly, as much as you
- 50:15Speaker 2: stayed on my butt, you.
- 50:16Speaker 1: Made me laugh and you made me have fun with it,
- 50:18Speaker 1: and you made me believe that.
- 50:20Speaker 2: I could do it because I came on here like okay,
- 50:22Speaker 2: what And I just remember when you saw that friend contract.
- 50:25Speaker 1: You were like, this is everything, bitch. I was like
- 50:29Speaker 1: it is like I was honestly just trying to have
- 50:31Speaker 1: fun with it. Like I didn't even think it was
- 50:33Speaker 1: a big day. You were like, oh, you'll be back season,
- 50:35Speaker 1: You'll be back next season. I had this is everything.
- 50:39Speaker 2: But I remember all those things, and you know, I
- 50:42Speaker 2: know you guys don't ever get enough credit, but I'll
- 50:46Speaker 2: say this on behalf of the cast that I've worked with,
- 50:49Speaker 2: the most of the Real Housewives at Atlanta, we all
- 50:52Speaker 2: were better because we had a Carlos King in our ear.
- 50:55Speaker 2: In a lot of ways, we really really were because
- 50:58Speaker 2: there were days where I just honestly was like I
- 51:01Speaker 2: just can't do it. Especially my first season, we were
- 51:03Speaker 2: just losing everything. I was so stressed out, I was
- 51:06Speaker 2: so tired, and just I just didn't know how to
- 51:09Speaker 2: keep going. And I was planning this wedding and we
- 51:11Speaker 2: didn't have any money, and you would just come to
- 51:13Speaker 2: me and you would just take your little EarPods out
- 51:16Speaker 2: and you would just hold my hand and you would
- 51:19Speaker 2: say you can do this, you can do this.
- 51:23Speaker 1: And like in that moment in time, Carlos, I was like,
- 51:28Speaker 1: that's all. Like it was like, God, tell me I
- 51:31Speaker 1: can do it. I was like, okay, Carlos Things, I
- 51:33Speaker 1: can do it.
- 51:33Speaker 2: We don't have no money, I don't know I have
- 51:35Speaker 2: a pay Tony Conway, I don't know what you know.
- 51:38Speaker 2: Like and I was like, Okay, if Carlos Things, I
- 51:42Speaker 2: can do it, I can do it. So you have
- 51:43Speaker 2: been You were such a sense of strength for me
- 51:47Speaker 2: throughout that entire time. And I know you got cussed out,
- 51:49Speaker 2: you know, a few times, but just so you know,
- 51:52Speaker 2: it's very important.
- 51:53Speaker 1: For me to give you your flowers. Carlos King, you are.
- 51:56Speaker 1: It's so rightfully so that you have this podcast and
- 51:59Speaker 1: all the amazing things.
- 52:00Speaker 2: That you have gone on to do, because truly, truly,
- 52:04Speaker 2: I feel like we were all at the beginning of
- 52:06Speaker 2: this whole reality thing, and I feel like we forget,
- 52:10Speaker 2: like we we like we didn't know that there was
- 52:13Speaker 2: gonna be like it would continue and all these other
- 52:15Speaker 2: shows would happen as a result of And still right now,
- 52:18Speaker 2: you know Real Housewives, Villina still has a certain Genese quadat.
- 52:23Speaker 1: You know that people still love because you know, we had.
- 52:26Speaker 2: You know, Tyler Perry, the Obamas, like people watch our
- 52:29Speaker 2: show and anywhere I go in the world and the
- 52:33Speaker 2: world people can recite things, you know, like what's up
- 52:36Speaker 2: fifty seent like.
- 52:36Speaker 1: They know everything.
- 52:38Speaker 2: It has been a huge blessing to my life and
- 52:40Speaker 2: I could not have done it without you. I was
- 52:43Speaker 2: lucky enough to have you as my producer for again,
- 52:46Speaker 2: you know, most of my seasons on the show.
- 52:49Speaker 1: And I salute you, Carlos King.
- 52:50Speaker 2: And you continue to blossom and grow, and there's ever
- 52:53Speaker 2: anything that you're doing that I can be a part of.
- 52:55Speaker 1: I can support.
- 52:57Speaker 2: I'm your friend, I'm your girl, and I truly we
- 53:00Speaker 2: love you, Carlos King. It makes me so proud every
- 53:03Speaker 2: time I see you doing anything.
- 53:04Speaker 5: Honestly, thank you fifty cent.
- 53:06Speaker 1: Yah, You're welcome.
- 53:08Speaker 3: There's a wrap up, yeah, baby See, y'all did not
- 53:18Speaker 3: expect me to give Cynthia the flowers that she deserves.
- 53:22Speaker 5: I really hope you.
- 53:22Speaker 3: All understand why I feel like every reality show needs
- 53:28Speaker 3: a Cynthia Bailey. She is somebody who will always be
- 53:31Speaker 3: one of the most underrated housewives of all time, and
- 53:35Speaker 3: it's time we wake up, smell the folders in our
- 53:39Speaker 3: cup and give Cynthia her flowers. Thank you for listening
- 53:46Speaker 3: to Reality with the King. New episodes drop every Wednesday
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