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Matt Cardona is BACK in the WWE! Here's How it happened. · The Major Wrestling Figure Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Anybody do anything this week?
• 0:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anything happening this week? I have sadly report that
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: I have to watch smack Then every week.
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  Speaker 1: Now, guys, it's been six years. I guess technically six
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: years twenty twenty twenty six, close to six years, but
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: I wow, yeah, I returned to WWE. I was on
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: SmackDown this week. Not a Zach Ryder. We heard the
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: woo woo, we got we got faked out. But it's
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: as Matt Cardona. So man, what a what a what
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: a night, what a what a ride? I want to
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  Speaker 1: thank all you guys supposed to YouTube, Brian and Mark
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  Speaker 1: with a social media posts and all the fans, everybody
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  Speaker 1: who reached out. I definitely felt the love and support,
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  Speaker 1: so so thank you very much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed like there was a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: posting very nice things but also really funny things. Did
• 0:55
  Speaker 3: you see the story that dark Shekh told, Yes I did, Frian,
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  Speaker 3: did you see this?
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  Speaker 2: I think someone sent it to me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the about the water that said I had to
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: send people somebody to get water and they said, oh, thanks,
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  Speaker 3: that's really kind of you, and he said, not for everybody,
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  Speaker 3: for me, And as I read that, I just saw
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  Speaker 3: him going for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, what a journey guys, Like you know, we
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  Speaker 1: got fired twenty twenty April fifteen, twenty twenty, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I guess, the goal was always to get back,
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't like from day one, what have I
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: got to do to get back to W I couldn't
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: think like that, you know, I couldn't think and I
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: certainly couldn't think like with negativity or bitterness. I just knew.
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  Speaker 1: And I've posted about this, like, I had three options.
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  Speaker 1: I could be bitter, be negative, feel feel sorry for myself,
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  Speaker 1: and fade into obscurity. I could just coast off the
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  Speaker 1: WW name and play the greatest hits and make money
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. Or I could reinvent myself,
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  Speaker 1: try to outwork every motherfucker out there and create my
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  Speaker 1: own path. And I chose option three. And it wasn't easy.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: You know, it might seem like it was easy, but
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't. And it was a lot of ups and
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: downs and a lot of hard work, but it all
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  Speaker 1: paid off, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my post here on the screen, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I meant every word of it, you know, And I
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  Speaker 2: think it goes without saying that I'm proud of you
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  Speaker 2: and happy for you. But I think the bigger picture
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  Speaker 2: is like what I think you were able to show
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  Speaker 2: people what's possible, you know, because I think a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people sometimes get lost in that, in that bubble
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  Speaker 2: and the woe is me when you know, wrestling doesn't
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  Speaker 2: know anyone anything. You know, it's what you don't it's
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: what you put into it, what you get back. TJ
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  Speaker 2: and I were talking about yesterday and we were laughing,
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  Speaker 2: We're like Matt was signed at twenty and then again
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: at forty. I just thought so like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: but like that's funny in a way, but also like
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: it's also like anything's possible, right, everybody's story is different. No,
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  Speaker 2: there's no no, you know what I mean. The only
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  Speaker 2: one's gonna tell you no is you if you accept
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  Speaker 2: it and don't try anymore.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I tell guys and girls all the time,
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: but they ask for advice. I say, like you said, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: nobody has the same journey, No one has the same path. No,
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  Speaker 1: there's no blueprint, right, Like you might make it if
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: you don't quit, and you definitely won't make it if
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  Speaker 1: you quit, So just don't quit. It's as easy as that.
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  Speaker 1: It's the only advice I can give people. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the advice I kind of, maybe delusionly optimistically told myself
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  Speaker 1: every single day, you know. And there are certainly times
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  Speaker 1: where listen, like the crowd's rabit hot, I'm making all
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: this money on merchant, I'm loving life. And then there
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: are days where I'm in the middle of nowhere, there's
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: not a tweet about the show, and I'm thinking what
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  Speaker 1: am I doing with my life? You know, like we've all.
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  Speaker 2: Been there, right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That being said, though, mat just from being around you,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that you let this goal like consume
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  Speaker 3: your thoughts. I think, right like you had a great
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  Speaker 3: time and you and it certainly was at the top
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  Speaker 3: of your mind. But I think that like you would
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  Speaker 3: have been fine if it never happened, right like you?
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  Speaker 3: You you sort of you made your your your businesses
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  Speaker 3: and and and you pushed on that stuff. And I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what what what would you say to that?
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  Speaker 1: No, I made a post about it the other day,
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  Speaker 1: like these past five years in the Indies were the
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  Speaker 1: greatest time of my career, uh so far. And like
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  Speaker 1: I said earlier, it wasn't like what do I gonna
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  Speaker 1: do to get them notice me?
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  Speaker 2: Game?
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  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. But of course, like every day when
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: I woke up, I would say, Okay, my goal is
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  Speaker 1: to get back there, you know, and I did all
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  Speaker 1: the things I could do to control. But also like
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: if it didn't happen, I built something outside and it's
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  Speaker 1: not like, Okay, it's not like I was never there.
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  Speaker 1: If I was never there and never got to w
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  Speaker 1: w ever, it'd be devastating, right, and I think I'd
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  Speaker 1: be a little bummed up and never got back there again.
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  Speaker 1: Right at least I could say, well, I was there,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I want the intercoll time on wrestlming.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to say that for those that haven't,
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  Speaker 2: like because I say this all the time too, like
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  Speaker 2: it would be very hypocritical if Matt and I were
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  Speaker 2: like whatever, But because we've lived WW lives and dreams,
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  Speaker 2: so like, I always think everyone's going to find that
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  Speaker 2: out for themselves if that's for them, or you know,
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  Speaker 2: or at least try it once to see you know
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  Speaker 2: what it's like. I mean, because so if you haven't,
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  Speaker 2: you got to go for it. The truth is I
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: didn't grow up wanting to be a pro wrestler.
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  Speaker 1: Group wanted to be a WWE wrestler, a WWE superstar,
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  Speaker 1: right so, and you know you saw like Cody and
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: Kevin Owen's making fun of me a couple of months ago,
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  Speaker 1: right like that, he's so good that I brought it
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  Speaker 1: up all the time, because I only brought it up
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  Speaker 1: when I was asked, first of all.
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  Speaker 2: But of course that was fairly true.
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  Speaker 1: Of course I wanted to work. You know where my
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  Speaker 1: wife works. Of Course I wanted to work the place
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  Speaker 1: I grew up wanting to work. Of course I want
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to wrest so manium moment again and wrestling
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  Speaker 1: mass worguard again, or walk into Target or Walmart and
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  Speaker 1: see my figure again. And now all that stuff is possible.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very grateful for it, man, and listen, there were
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  Speaker 1: certainly times I thought it's never gonna happen. Like I
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  Speaker 1: remember one time calling SDL up when we were together.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you need to go your own way because
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm holding you back because you're never gonna
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  Speaker 1: get there with me. But I'm serious, really Like, there
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: was a point, like a couple of times where I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: it's not happening, because like if not, now, when is
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  Speaker 1: it going to happen?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: What else would you?
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  Speaker 1: What also I have to do?
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  Speaker 2: Like but no, no, Like that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I just I just didn't. I just didn't quit. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't take no for an answer, you know, I.
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  Speaker 3: Just you also took every possible opportunity that you had.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you had an insane year this year, working
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  Speaker 3: for so many companies. You know, it's just it's absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 1: And that's another thing too. It's like I took every
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  Speaker 1: booking everybody, the good, the bad, the ugly, right, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to get out there, and I learned
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  Speaker 1: from every single booking out there, every single opponent. I
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  Speaker 1: learned something from, right, And like that's why I tell
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  Speaker 1: people work as much as possible. Yeah, Like, seriously, work
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  Speaker 1: as many shows as possible. Some people they only want
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  Speaker 1: to do the big ones. Like of course, everyone wants
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  Speaker 1: to only do the big ones.
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  Speaker 2: Hey. Another thing that Tyson Kidds said yesterday during a
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  Speaker 2: seminar that I didn't really ever think about, and it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't apply to in this moment because right now WW
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  Speaker 2: is doing that holiday tour and they're going to be
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  Speaker 2: in overseas, but ind you guys have a chance to
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  Speaker 2: have like double the reps of a WW superstar, right,
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  Speaker 2: And that's how you get better. You know, the more
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  Speaker 2: shows you do, the more you learn, the more whatever. Then,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, the good, the bad, whatever, you just
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  Speaker 2: do them all. That's how you learn in this business.
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  Speaker 2: And like to a degree, WW superstars aren't getting fast
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  Speaker 2: checked like they are because it's not possible. There's no shows,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's just your TVs. So like in you
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  Speaker 2: guys have the run of it like you guys have
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  Speaker 2: like the that's a cool perspective, I think. Right, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And there are areas too where you can have five
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  Speaker 3: shows a week.
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  Speaker 2: For sure. There's plenty of CAP guys busting their masket
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  Speaker 2: in the car going up and down these coasts, you know,
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  Speaker 2: two or three times a weekend, working everything they can.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy. There's this young brother up here in New England,
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  Speaker 3: very new I think, two years in and he wrote
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  Speaker 3: that he had one hundred and seventy eight matches I
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  Speaker 3: leave twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: I saw him on New Year's and I go, I'm like,
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: come on. I was like, I'm trying to do the math.
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: Here are you counting practice matches? And he's like no,
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  Speaker 3: He's like no, and he showed me his cage match
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  Speaker 3: and his cage match had one hundred and fifty something
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  Speaker 3: and he said, I know it says only say one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty, but there was some like really crappy
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  Speaker 3: shows I did that it didn't count. But he actually
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  Speaker 3: did it.
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  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
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  Speaker 3: And you know this is not some big name INDI guy,
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  Speaker 3: so so it's possible if you do it. But I
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: did want to mention Broski. I talked a lot about
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  Speaker 3: the I posted about the hard work and sort of
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  Speaker 3: what you did and how insane you were. You know,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes you're the hardest worker I've ever met. Sometimes I
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: think to a detriment, which you know, sometimes you agree.
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  Speaker 3: But it's funny because it recently there's been a lot
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  Speaker 3: of talk in my life about this hard work by
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  Speaker 3: I was talking to my daughter about she started basketball.
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: She's nervous if she's going to be good at it,
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: you know, and I'm trying to tell her that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to be good at it unless you try,
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: and you certainly can be good at it if if
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: you work hard at it. If you practice, you're dribbling.
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: If you go out and you and you try shooting.
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: And that's why I wrote that, it's kind of it's
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: kind of a lesson for everybody. I mean, it's a
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: lesson that parents can give their kids. As as corny
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  Speaker 3: as that is, as to say, if you work hard
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  Speaker 3: enough at something, it will happen. And this is this
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  Speaker 3: is proof some of these shows. Man, you could have
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: just went, you could have just did the match, but
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: instead you brought a Jurassic Park jeep that every time
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: an entourage of people, Yeah, book the right thing. You
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: made a moment you got to figure out of it.
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  Speaker 3: You could have just did a match.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I you know, I listen. I can't say that
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  Speaker 1: I treated every single match like it was WrestleMania, because
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  Speaker 1: I would be a lie. But I tried to treat
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  Speaker 1: every single match like it was a big deal, right,
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: because if it wasn't, then what am I even doing right?
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: Right? Why would it be big deals? With people paying it?
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  Speaker 1: Come exactly right. I tell that to people all the time.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: If it's not a big deal to me, that's not
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: big deal to anybody. Like listen, at the end of
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: the day. It's an independent show, even like the biggest
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: GCW show is an independent show in Atlantic City, New Jersey. Right,
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: But if I have to treat it like it's WrestleMania
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  Speaker 1: in Atlantic City, New Jersey or else, it's nothing else.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: What am I even like getting out of bed for?
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the support over the past five years, every
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: promoter who booked me, you know, everyone who brought me
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: in for a signing, every fan who showed support, you know,
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: the podcast fans, like every opponent, thank you.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: I have a question, how sad have all these promoters
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: been that you told them you're not coming to their
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: shows anymore? And part two, how many of the boys
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: have just been like cockroaches trying to scoop up your
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: bookings and stuff. Because I'll admit I was like, ooh,
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: I would hop on that Adrian tour in Australia, but
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: the name date I want.
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: I wanted to defend his ACW championship.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, without Roski there, I can get me and
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: two of my friends in there to fill that spot.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: Be the same somebody, Adrian.
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: Somebody asked me for Broski's right, I said, two thousand
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  Speaker 3: dollars less.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: What a deal. Yeah, listen, it's unfortunate that, you know,
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: I had bookings up until the summer that had cancel.
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  Speaker 2: But that's that's that's that's the rope the show business.
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  Speaker 2: Don't thing anyone's upset by it, right, No.
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: Well, some some fans were trying to make a joke
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: up about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well whatever, it doesn't bother me.
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: But I did. Yeah, Ben Bishop, that.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: Was actually a fun way should holiday all those guys. Uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I listen, it was a hell of a ride. And uh,
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: it's a depth the five years on the indies. It's
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: it's for the book. Like I couldn't I couldn't summon
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  Speaker 2: it up here. I couldn't sum it up in a
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  Speaker 2: social media post.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, you know. And I'll say this, I don't really
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: want to do some some things I want to keep
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: close to the vest, you know. But I will say
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: this when I when I signed my WW contract, which
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: now everything's you know, you're not actually signing paper, it's
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: all you know on your phone whatever.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't even believe that I signed.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: I signed it with my g CW title like on
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  Speaker 1: my lap, you know, because it was over GCW. Then
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be the the Indie God. If it wasn't
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: for the Indie God, I wouldn't be.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Back in w W. A I don't.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: I I firmly believe that. So when I got fired,
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: I looked at that picture of me being my dad
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  Speaker 1: wrestle media, and I got rehired. I was holding that
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: GCW title. So I'm very sentimental like that.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: You know, good thing Mark suggested you do that match
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  Speaker 2: changed your life.
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: I did suggest I did suggest you have a match
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: with thinks. Two questions one, yeah, Uh do you think
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  Speaker 3: that now you will have time to shit?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: I think I'll actually have less time, really less time. Yeah.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: I will say this also, like this month of December
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: has been the most stressful month of my life. Like
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: mental health is a real thing, bro Like like not
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: that I didn't think it was real, but like I
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: never really experienced it.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: Like this half had me and Mark's a little stressed
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  Speaker 2: and I was stressed about nothing.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: And I listen again, I'm not going to get into
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: all the details, but uh, it was kind of like
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly when. So after the SmackDown thing
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: with La and Night, that's kind of when the ball
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: got rolling right where there was like discussions like I
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: will be in touch blah blah blah, and Brent, I'm
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: if you remember we were at wrestle Kid and I
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: was at dinner like after we had the match, and
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: I left and I went and took a phone call
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: like I don't know if you remember that, but like
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: that's when like I got.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Through all like the express of martinis but show.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Like that's when I got the call like hey, you
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: know we're interested, let's let's start talking. I was like,
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: oh boy, all right, here we go. So it was
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: very stressful in a good way, right, like not bad stress, right,
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  Speaker 1: but still like is this gonna happen?
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: Is this not gonna happen? Just the particular all right?
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: And then finally signed Christmas week, so it was like
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: very sudden, there's like, okay, am I zach am I Matt,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: so I'm having both sets of gear made and designed.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: My heart sank when I heard that.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Me too, because I knew that you only brought the
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: mad cardonah gear.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: We need a fresh start. That's not a fresh start.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, I want to thank Downstate for the
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: years with that with that song, right, Uh, it was
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: time that. You know, they wanted something fresh and I
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: actually dig the new music. Uh, I liked it. Yeah,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: I liked it. I finished, which which is awesome. Like
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: I like that that that slogan put on the T
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: shirt TTD, thank you for the T shirt. But man
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: like that. Even even that day going to SmackDown they
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: smacked I was in Buffalo, I flew into Rochester, so
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: no one was seeing me at the airport, right, and
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: then I was hidden in the room all day. I'm like, oh,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: this is like I just want to I just want
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: the news to be out there.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: You know. I said I was the same way, and
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: I have nothing really to do with it.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also want my loose lips sterling moniker
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: to be eliminated, okay, because I did a good job here.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: So I was fishedly doing a mac cart on a
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: shoot interview yesterday at ken Con, everybody nobody asked me.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Somebody asked me a goddamn question about myself.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: This weekend we got on un but yeah, the match
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: was was was fun. Uh, kit is awesome to be
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: That's a he's a pro wrestler. Looks great, you the ring,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: great gimmick, he.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Great hipswivel on this guy. Yeah, is Joe Shoe's seen him?
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: It's not rocking with well Rick books like the rockstar
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: guy was his favorite. Maybe Kid's gonna be the tickest place.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Well, he might be jealous because Shoes had the hip
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: swivel Championship of the World.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Shoes is toxic, so maybe.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: And I will say, guys, that stage is still slippery.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: By the way, I could tell you're walking real slow
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: to get past that slippery. But guys, does this mean
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I'm back in the elite squad?
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I don't understand how you couldn't be.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I have to assume that you are now the leader
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: of they should come crawling.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Oh are we gonna see some has a partnership, so
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: I'd be gladly there to help you. Guys.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: There's gotta be some video where you show up day one.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: You're the new boss. You're telling no, you.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Need to come in like alright gold with a paintball
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: gun and be like out of here. I see Sam
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Roberts got him around the corner. Oh boy, Kina was
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: in Japan marking out and I think he thought he
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: was in like a fever dream, like he's upset he's
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: gonna make a bill.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I said, all back. He finally responded, it took him
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: a while.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Oh geez, yeah, did you post that that was too
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: many stocky bombs?
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Here's the other question I had, Rosky. Has anyone ever okay,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: for example, Scott Hall, he was remote, he went to
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: w CW, he became Scott Hall. He came back to
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: ww E as Scott Hall. Has anybody ever left and
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: reinvented themselves on the indies and came back as their reinvention.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I saw you, I heard you mention that on silver linings,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and I didn't even put that together, Like, I don't
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: know if that's I don't know if that ever happened
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: where you're saying strictly like in I.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Mean obviously Diesel, Kevin Ash, maybe.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: A TNA person who like spent years in TNA and
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: like reinvent themselves or whatever the hell, but like you know, uh,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: you reinvented yourself so huge on independent professional wrestling that
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: they were like, nah, the more valuable thing here is Macardona,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: not Zach Ryder, the guy that we we made years ago.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Again, I said anything as possible, man. You know, no
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: is only no if you believe it and stop trying, right.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: And I said this before and people they I think
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of people thought it was like a shot
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: or but it was never meant as a shot when
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I would say, WWE was my developmental but it taught
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: me everything I needed to thrive and succeed on the indies,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: where I'm like, how come no one's doing this? How
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: come no one's doing that? How come no one knows
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: how to do like an interview? How come nobody could
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: talking sound bites? How come nobody commion experience? It's stuff
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I learned in WWE. And then I flipped the script
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and became what people what they love me for w
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna make them hate me for that now,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: So like ww set me up for that indie run
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: and then I just ran with it, you know, And
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: now back as Matt Cardona, it's it's surreal to be honest,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Like I don't want to say I don't I don't
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: even know how to describe it. It feels like it
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: was just meant to be where it's like I don't
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: feel like any difference, Like Okay, I'm in w like
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: that's what it was supposed to happen, you know what
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, right, Like, of course I'm excited and I'm proud,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: but it's.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Like, okay, well and then like we go, within a
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: month or barely, you'll be right back in the think
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: of things and just it is what it is. It's
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: your job, you know.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel that already, Like I feel like this,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: like this is maybe like naive to say, but I
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: feel like I was meant to be here, so like
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I just feel like it's part of the process, you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it's everyone has a different story and this is just
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: part of my roller coaster ride. And I love roller coasters.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: You guys know that at the Universe baby coming up smokes.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: And to put button on this. Going Forward to the
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Future podcast every Monday. Live, podcast audio drops every Friday,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: podcast video drops every Saturday. We will try to have
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: a vlog every Monday on the YouTube channel. Broski will
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: still be doing figures everything on Patreon.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Stays Yeah. The To answer the questions everyone was asking,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the podcast is safe, major is safe? Guys? Well, you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: maybe sometimes there'll be some scheduling issues, but we've never
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: missed a week ever.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: We're gonna say a lot of people asking me about
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: live shows. I mean, that's the only thing with scheduling, right,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I literally said, I think it's just a schedule permitting thing.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: And I also said, worst case, I'm especially in our
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: new format, Mark and I can certainly handle a guest
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: in an interview and a meet and greet. And then
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: if someone named Macardona come to said location to hang
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: out after, right, no one's gonna stop that, you.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, it's just a scheduling thing. And and someone
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: just he Cruz has wrote this. I gotta say it
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: because I know it's Bride's favorite quota vide is that
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: this whole journey was never about proving people wrong. It's
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: about proving myself.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Jo Shoes is what it was. Really. I mean, I
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: was hearing it and then he said, I'm like, yeah, bro,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I've heard that one a lot.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: See, that's something I learned in WWE. Is how you
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: talking sound bites? You know what I'm saying.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: You know, like that clip a couple of months ago
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: is going around of Regal doing U manga and it
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: was like ninety seconds worth. You probably get like a
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: good you one like Van Vleet and everything. Ariel Hawani
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: would be like the same if someone myself wrong, rude
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: myself ro I.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Also want somebody to cut together a highlight video of
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: all the times that babyface chanted chicken to you, just
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: like a whole ya getting and then you.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Going how you're going to wrestle without the Internet title
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: and hold people up and they duck and you hit
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the wrong out at the belt. Happened?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I so nothing. I've retired. I'm still the Internet Champion,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: but it's it came out of my gear bag, you know.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: And I said, I have a permanent place in the
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: new toy room office with the old Internet title. Just
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: but the old inner time might be new again. Maybe
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the shell makes the new Internet title with my new figure.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Who knows. I don't know, but guys, thank you so
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: much for support. I'm back Jack. Oh look at Chelsea,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Chelsea Green. I'll tell you what she is not happy.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna ride together, guys, like, honestly,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: for your marriage, I don't think you should. That's too
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: much time together. I'm honestly, I don't know if we're
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: gonna ride together or travel together.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Like like I said, I'm literally suggesting you don't because I
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: feel like that's too much time together.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: So like, for instance, like I flew into like I said,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I've we went to Rochester, not Buffalo. So by the
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: time I got to the hotel room, it was like
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: well after one o'clock and I had to wake her
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: up because I needed to get tanned because I couldn't
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: get a tan because the day before was New Year's Day,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: tanning salon closed barber shop clothes, so she had to
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: tan my back like one in the morning. She did
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: like that, and then after the after SmackDown, I'm you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I'm celebrating, you know, Cody invites me on the bus
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: for for a cocktail. Chelsea's let's go. I couldn't even
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I had to chug the old fashion I couldn't even
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: enjoy knock it on the.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Bus doorst girl or whatever's going on? Yeah yeah, what
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: a what a what a what a story? First ever
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Ken Con guys.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Our transition.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well, oh yeah, I get the shirt.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not finished on w shop dot com and the
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: song will be coming out very very soon. Get the shirt, baby.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I bought the shirt, but I also Mackenzie wanted a
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: new Morgan shirt, so nothing is shipped. Yet I don't know.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: And I will say this is ttd's first time designing
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: a a Matt Cardona WW shirt. He's done a lot
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: of Matt Cordona shirts. First time with the WW shirts
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: with thank you, TTD. I love you know Ryan Rick
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Michaels who made the gear, like you guys, Oh without you,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know where I'd be working so fast around
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the clock. You know, appreciate it, like maybe my gear
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: was falling apart a little bit because Rick made it
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: in twenty four hours, but it came.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: It came.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. I love all you major marks And
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: as that Hogan bashing brawler says, I'm back.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Jack Nate Mean says they saw Matt label as an
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: all rounder on his cage match, so they had to rehire.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Definitely perfect over the edge they were, they were iffy,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: but then they read your cage match, right, we should
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: bring him back. M