Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Andy Woods: Highest Level ‘Treasonous Conspiracy’ Russia Collusion Hoax
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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity.
- 0:13No topic, off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
- 0:20Hello friends, family in Christ.
- 0:22Welcome.
- 0:23Well, today, I want to mention what's been happening in the news regarding, well,
- 0:30government and cover-ups and corruption, you know, fun things like that and how Christians
- 0:35should look at this.
- 0:37So director of national intelligence, Chelsea Gabbard set off fireworks last week when
- 0:43she accused former President Barack Obama of organizing a coup d'etat against his successor,
- 0:50President Trump.
- 0:51So Gabbard concluded, quote, these documents detail a treasonous conspiracy by officials
- 0:59at the highest levels of the Obama White House to subvert the will of the American people
- 1:07and quote.
- 1:09So what we're going to talk about today with Pastor Andy Woods is most people, most informed
- 1:16people were aware of this and are not surprised by what's coming out now.
- 1:21But so what?
- 1:23This was years ago, what's going to happen?
- 1:25Will anybody be held accountable and how deep does this go?
- 1:29How concerned should we be and how should Christians look at this?
- 1:32Andy Woods is with us today, Andy Woods Ministries.org.
- 1:36Brother, thank you for your time and appreciate you coming back on the program.
- 1:40Yeah, David, good to be here.
- 1:42Thanks for having me.
- 1:43Yeah, and you talk about a lot of this on your pastor's point of view and I want to
- 1:46direct people to your YouTube channel over at Andy Woods Bible study.
- 1:51Andy Woods Ministries on YouTube, his sermons are on there, did a great series or continues
- 1:57a great series on neo-Calvinism versus the Bible.
- 2:01And the pastor's point of view, you guys should check those out a lot more than we can get
- 2:07into here today.
- 2:08But Andy, since this is an important topic, it's frustrating for me and maybe for you
- 2:14to, if we were writing about this years ago, if we were trying to raise awareness, warn,
- 2:22and here we are, more has come out and the Tulsi Gabbard, quote, bombshell.
- 2:27By the way, what defines a bombshell?
- 2:30Does that mean everybody knows about it?
- 2:33It's explosive.
- 2:34The media is going to cover it fairly.
- 2:37Let's just start right there because I don't think a lot of people are going to get the
- 2:42truth still at this point.
- 2:44So your overview of what's happening and your thoughts on where we're at.
- 2:49Well, I mean, it relates to going back to what was at 2016 where Trump beat Hillary.
- 2:59He didn't win the popular vote, but he won the electoral vote.
- 3:04And they tried to cook a narrative that he didn't really win.
- 3:08It was Russia that gave the election to Trump and stole it from Hillary.
- 3:13And they used these three-letter agencies to perpetuate that narrative on the American
- 3:21people.
- 3:23And the players in this reads like the who's who of the Obama years.
- 3:29John Brennan, James Clapper, Andrew McCabe, John Carey, Loretta Lynch, Victoria Newlin,
- 3:39Mary McCord, Lisa Monaco, Ben Rhodes, my hair, Bitur, if I'm pronouncing that right, etc.,
- 3:51etc., etc., you know, and if this, if the allegations in this article are true, I mean,
- 3:56basically they, and the stories, you know, pretty well known if you watch conservative
- 4:01outlets, but they cooked the books.
- 4:04They made up things dossiers.
- 4:07They abused the system, you know, to advance a narrative and to take down a president.
- 4:14And that now you have the shoes on the other foot where now Trump has re-elected the
- 4:21President of the United States.
- 4:22They thought they could get rid of him.
- 4:24But they actually tried to kill him, you know, twice.
- 4:28Of course, we, we don't know, you know, directly who was responsible for that.
- 4:33But there was a lot of forces at work that did not want him in office.
- 4:37And I think now we're discovering why they didn't want him in office because now that
- 4:42Trump has appointed disruptors to the heads of these three-letter agencies.
- 4:47That's what I call these people.
- 4:49Pam Bondi, Tulsi Gabbard, Dan Bondino, Cash Patel, I mean, they're disruptors, that's
- 4:57what they are.
- 4:58And they're taking these three-letter agencies that were weaponized against the American
- 5:03people.
- 5:04And they've put in charge of those today under Trump, you know, disruptors.
- 5:09And one of the things that's happening is the declassification of documents, which
- 5:15is showing proof that there really was a conspiracy, you know, to blame Trump's electoral success
- 5:23on the Russians to try to convince the American people that Trump really didn't win.
- 5:30And people just have said, oh, that's conspiracy to talk.
- 5:33Well, it's not conspiracy to talk anymore when formal documents are being declassified.
- 5:39And that's why they didn't want Trump to return to this position that he's now in and put
- 5:43these disruptors in place.
- 5:44So in my opinion, this is great because it's taking the search light of truth and turning
- 5:51it on darkness and exposing something.
- 5:55And these are crimes, if these things are proven out.
- 5:57I mean, espionage, treason, you know, these kinds of things, these are crimes.
- 6:03So this whole crowd, I don't see a statute of limitations on these.
- 6:08Maybe there is.
- 6:09I'm not aware of it, but all these people can be prosecuted for this stuff.
- 6:13So this is a big deal.
- 6:15It is.
- 6:16And I'm concerned that a lot of people have tuned out because you just hear Russia hoax
- 6:21and you just tune it out, not you and I perhaps.
- 6:24But Tulsi Gabbard used the words treasonous conspiracy.
- 6:29Treason is a capital offense and there is no statute of limitations.
- 6:36In this article, it says, it stated that the Obama and his loyal subordinates sabotaged
- 6:43the peaceful transfer of presidential power in 2016, betrayed the American people and
- 6:50made war against the legitimate government of the United States.
- 6:57And here's what General Michael Flynn said.
- 7:00I'm going to quote him and then I'll let you respond, Andy.
- 7:03He was concerned about this.
- 7:04He said, this is surreal, referring to the deep state.
- 7:07He was a target himself, quote, this is why Gabbard was attacked so relentlessly over
- 7:14the past few weeks and months.
- 7:16They knew if there were anyone with the guts to investigate the attempted coup, it would
- 7:24be her.
- 7:26Andy Woods, do we have we, meaning America, conservatives, republicans?
- 7:33Do we have the willpower and the manpower to pursue this or is it going to be something
- 7:41that nothing will come from it in the end?
- 7:44Well, I'd like to think we do because this was if proven, this was a crime not against
- 7:51Trump, okay, people need to, you know, we've got Trump lovers, Trump haters.
- 7:57This is not, these aren't crimes against Trump per se, these are crimes against the American
- 8:02people that overwhelmingly voted for Trump twice, you know, arguably three times, depending
- 8:09on what you do with the 2020 deal, right?
- 8:14And so this was an attempt to steal the government from the people.
- 8:17I mean, it was Abraham Lincoln in the Gettysburg address who said a government of the people
- 8:23by the people for the people shall not perish from the earth.
- 8:26Well, if there's some kind of coup in place, a coup de taas, Tulsi Gabbard calls it to
- 8:33make it sound as if Trump, you know, really didn't win and it was the Russians that rigged
- 8:40the system to put him in place.
- 8:43What they're trying to do is they're trying to derail the will of the people.
- 8:48And so, you know, they answer your question, I mean, is anything going to come of it?
- 8:52You know, part of me says no because that's how things like this typically go, but something
- 8:57needs to come out of it because this is an attack against the American people themselves.
- 9:02Excellent.
- 9:03I'm glad you made that point and elections have consequences and they tried to negate
- 9:09the will of the people.
- 9:10And by the way, bring up Andy's book, The Bible In Your Vote, it's never going to go
- 9:15out of style because elections until Jesus returns or we're taking home, the elections
- 9:20will be eternally important when we're on this earth.
- 9:24A biblical principles for any election, very, very important information in there, how
- 9:29to vote, the biblical worldview as Christians.
- 9:33We are salt and light, so thanks guys, putting that up.
- 9:38Fred Breitbart, the headline said, declassified, Obama, Edmund, manufactured intelligence to
- 9:43push fake Trump, Russia, collusion narrative.
- 9:48In other words, they fabricated evidence, as you said, Andy, they meant to convince the
- 9:53American people that Russia stole the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton and also to
- 10:01try to push or convince Congress to remove Trump from office in his first term.
- 10:07And also another perspective from this article, Obama and his people damaged America's reputation
- 10:13in the world by pretending that Russia hacked our election.
- 10:20What about this, Andy?
- 10:21Your thoughts on this or anything else I just mentioned?
- 10:24What about the squandered time and resources in all these agencies?
- 10:31How many hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent in time and resources pursuing
- 10:38this?
- 10:39That should be a crime against the people, too.
- 10:42Yeah, I mean, if you're going to take like the FBI and turn it against parents, protesting
- 10:50at school board meetings, you know, if you're going to do that with the Department of Justice
- 10:57and all of these other three letter agencies, then what you're doing is you're taking time
- 11:02and resources that could have been invested in performing their actual legitimate functions
- 11:12and divesting it in creating that you want to figure out.
- 11:21It's not just getting Trump out of office, you know, Trump had all of these things that
- 11:27they were trying to bring against him, stood.
- 11:31He could have acted.
- 11:32They're a gen that, you know, you go against the left.
- 11:35I mean, their agenda is not just to defeat you politically.
- 11:38I mean, they want to throw you in jail and they want to, you know, ruin you for the rest
- 11:42of your life.
- 11:43And that's what they tried to do against Donald Trump, whether people love him or hate him
- 11:48or like this tweety put up or dislike that tweety put up.
- 11:52You have to look at it through the eyes of populism.
- 11:55I mean, he was America's choice and this cabal was trying to, you know, take that away
- 12:01from the American people.
- 12:03So that's criminal behavior.
- 12:05It's a misuse of the instruments of government.
- 12:10And to me, it doesn't matter how much time is passed, you know, all these things need
- 12:13to be investigated.
- 12:14They need to be brought to the light.
- 12:17And these people need to be criminally prosecuted, indicted and then prosecuted.
- 12:22And I think we also need to pray for people like Tulsi Gabbard, because I honestly believe
- 12:30that her life is in danger, you know, even as I speak.
- 12:35Yeah.
- 12:36Yes.
- 12:37So pray for those officials in the Trump administration to do the digging that they're
- 12:43doing, my goodness, it does take courage, pray for their protection friends.
- 12:48But consider how many thousands, perhaps, of government agents from the DOJ, from the
- 12:58Department of State, the intelligence community that were ordered to waste years on the job.
- 13:07And then what this article calls it chasing ghosts conjured by Clinton, Obama, rice,
- 13:11Brennan, Lynch, Komi, Clapper and their co-conspirators.
- 13:15I know it sounds like strong language, but I agree and it's frustrating that we knew this
- 13:20was happening.
- 13:21And now it's just all coming out.
- 13:22So I hope this is pursued.
- 13:24Andy, I want to share a little bit and get your response to how the media has portrayed
- 13:28this or as handled this.
- 13:29You know, I call it the Democrat media or the one party big tech media conglomerate in
- 13:35America, the Democrat media downplays the truth.
- 13:37And this case is no different.
- 13:40Over at news busters, they did a report called buried.
- 13:44The networks give 1000 times more coverage to Russia probe than Gabbard bombshell.
- 13:521000 times.
- 13:53I don't want to read some numbers from this.
- 13:57And by the way, this is a great, there it is.
- 13:58This is a great, by the way, support the media research center friends.
- 14:02They do great work and we need more organizations like this.
- 14:06But this is a great reminder that the Obama teams conspiracy against America would not
- 14:11have gone very far if they hadn't had such excellent co-conspirators in the complicit
- 14:19Democrat media.
- 14:21CBS, ABC and NBC News spent 2,300 minutes on Trump slash Russia in 2016 and 2017.
- 14:33Fast forward to this year, 2025.
- 14:36The same three networks have spent under three minutes discussing Obama and Russia.
- 14:46And not surprising, but your thoughts on that.
- 14:49Well, it defies explanation.
- 14:54I mean, the only thing I can think of is the Marxists, when they, their goals were read
- 15:01into the congressional record by Senator Erlong of Florida.
- 15:06I think it was around, I don't know, the late 50s, early 60s, you know, he read into
- 15:11the congressional record, their goals.
- 15:13And one of them was to take, and it's amazing how successful they've been in accomplishing
- 15:18them as we're looking back via hindsight.
- 15:22But one of their goals was basically to take over the media.
- 15:25And boy, have they succeeded where stories like this are completely slanted, completely unfair.
- 15:34And what you have today is a bunch of people wanting the title journalists, but they're
- 15:38not journalists.
- 15:39They're really activists, you know, for one side of the, you know, political ledger.
- 15:45And it really is disgusting.
- 15:47This is why we need shows like yours and other independent, you know, outlets to set the
- 15:52records straight.
- 15:53Or else we'd be in this country, you know, completely and totally bamboozled.
- 15:58Yeah.
- 15:59I'm thankful for new conservative outlets and others that are trying to just sound the
- 16:05alarm on this, especially the Christian programs, the biblical worldview programs,
- 16:09we've got to take a brief pause.
- 16:10When we come back, we'll get into specifics.
- 16:12I'm going to quote how the networks talked about this briefly.
- 16:16And then we've got more with Pastor Andy Woods in a minute.
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- 16:53Okay.
- 16:54Friends, back to the media.
- 16:55And by the way, the website Andy Woods Ministries.org.
- 16:59So NBC nightly news, July 22nd, they call these recent claims, right, that officials,
- 17:09Obama officials manufactured intelligence with Russian interference and that the basis
- 17:14of President Trump's quote conspiracy theory, ABC world news tonight worded it this way.
- 17:22Trump clearly frustrated by the Epstein story, baselessly accusing, baselessly accusing
- 17:31the former president of treason in the 2016 election.
- 17:35And there's more Trump quote falsely claiming Obama deliberated or deliberately manufactured
- 17:43and politicized intelligence parts.
- 17:45So right there, Andy, they're saying it's it's false.
- 17:48Trump falsely is claiming this and then finally a CBS evening news, a Trump tried again
- 17:55today to change the subject when asked about Epstein, right, and talked about the collusion.
- 18:01They're seeking to divert attention from the Epstein case.
- 18:04So the media has clearly gone to bat for the left.
- 18:08How are we as Christians to see this and respond and get the truth?
- 18:14Well, I mean, let's just assume all that stuff they just said is true.
- 18:18Then let's just declassify everything and let the facts say what they want to say.
- 18:23I mean, I don't want to follow up on this kind of a thing if it's not true.
- 18:28But how would you know that until the documents are declassified?
- 18:32And if they're being declassified and this cabal, this group didn't do anything wrong,
- 18:38you know, what are they so worried about?
- 18:40You know, why are they demonizing Tulsi Gabbard, you know, perpetually?
- 18:44And you know, it's interesting that Tulsi Gabbard before Trump either I can't remember
- 18:49if it was before he took office or before he was inaugurated, you know, she was traveling.
- 18:55And they took her bag and they subjected it to like a full blown lockdown and, you know,
- 19:02looked for anything they could and her, you know, suitcase, travel bag, etc.
- 19:07So she was on their list when I put it that way, you know, even before she took power.
- 19:15So I guess my point is what are they, what about Tulsi Gabbard bothers them so much?
- 19:22You know, where there's smoke, there's fire.
- 19:24And I think, I think we all as Christians agree that let the facts come out.
- 19:30Let's declassify all the documents, let the American people see what's going on.
- 19:34And if there's no there, there, let's just move on.
- 19:37But if there is there, there, then this is a big deal.
- 19:40This is a conspiracy to subvert the American government.
- 19:47Yes.
- 19:48This is evil.
- 19:49Talk about Eve.
- 19:50Yeah, exactly.
- 19:51What they're trying to do here, what they, up until now have succeeded in really changing
- 19:56the American people's minds about the legitimacy of Trump's presidency, that's really sad.
- 20:01You ask a lot of people because they watch some of these media outlets and it is also astounding
- 20:06how the media can conclude these claims are false right there in a statement.
- 20:11And anyway, so consider the real now foreign and domestic threats that were entirely ignored
- 20:21during these years because the US government was dedicating so many resources to an intelligence
- 20:28operation meant to frame President Trump.
- 20:32And one more thing, and I'll let you respond, Andy, to this one, and in and in it, let's
- 20:38see.
- 20:39Okay, Amy Klobuchar.
- 20:42Travel to Ukraine.
- 20:43This is 2016 and later held a press conference, almost 10 years ago, during which they claimed,
- 20:49by the way, Senator's John McCain, Lindsey Graham was with Klobuchar.
- 20:55They went to Ukraine and they claimed that Russia attacked the US by hacking the 2016 election.
- 21:03This, they went to Ukraine and had this in the press conference.
- 21:08And this is astounding to me.
- 21:10Yeah, well, they, they cooked the books.
- 21:13I mean, everything that we're learning about the steel dossier and Carter page and the
- 21:20lies, lies, the courts and all of this stuff, you know, indicates that they just made
- 21:25stuff up.
- 21:26In other words, they, they use the forces of government, the, the tentacles of government
- 21:32to create a false narrative to advance a personal agenda.
- 21:37And that's not why government's there.
- 21:39As you pointed out, it's a distraction from what government is supposed to do.
- 21:43It's not only a fraud on Donald Trump, it's a fraud on the American people and it's an
- 21:48attack on everything our country is based on where we, the people are supposed to be
- 21:54an authority.
- 21:56And we, the people voted for Donald Trump, you know, two times he won the electoral college
- 22:01in round one, the last time around 2024, he won the popular vote and the electoral college.
- 22:08And so you got to take Trump's name out of it and put, you know, your own face, you know,
- 22:13Mr. and Mrs. America, you know, that's who these people are attacking.
- 22:18And if true, and we're still collecting data as it's being declassified, all these people
- 22:24need to be dealt with or else, or else you're saying someone's above the law, you know,
- 22:31the whole point of America is we're all under the law, right?
- 22:34We're all accountable to the law and if we're going to let the, the rich or whoever these
- 22:38people are, off the hook, then it's a two-tiered judicial system, which is, which is why
- 22:44people flee third world countries to come here because Lady Liberty, right?
- 22:50She's blindfolded.
- 22:52And whether you're rich or poor or whatever you are, we're all treated equally here under
- 22:57the law.
- 22:58And this is treating Obama's cronies, Obama and his cronies with a different standard
- 23:03of justice.
- 23:04Well, sadly, too, Andy, I think a lot of people have become maybe a little jaded thinking
- 23:08that since the Clinton presidency and then now we're looking at Obama, if you're a
- 23:15liberal Democrat, Marxist or progressive, you are above the law.
- 23:19You will, you will not be held accountable.
- 23:20I think I mentioned you before the podcast, people like Anthony Fauci, no, I actually
- 23:25was mentioning to our producer how, I mean, Rand Paul and others are continuing to try
- 23:30to go after him based on the lies, the statements, their own testimony.
- 23:35And I don't know, I don't know what's going to happen, but one more article here because
- 23:38we're running out of time as I knew we would.
- 23:41Cash Patel found, speaking of declassifying documents, cash Patel found thousands of
- 23:47sensitive Trump, Russia probe documents inside what they call burn bags in a secret room
- 23:54at the FBI friends.
- 23:56This is new.
- 23:57I know the podcast will air a week from now, but this is breaking news cash Patel found
- 24:04a trove of sensitive documents related to the origins of the Trump, Russia probe buried
- 24:10in multiple quote, burn bags in a secret room inside the bureau, the burn bag system
- 24:16basically is used to destroy documents designated as classified or higher.
- 24:24These bags were filled with thousands of documents and including sources say what was in
- 24:34John Durham's final report.
- 24:37Now there's a room full of documents.
- 24:40There's computer hard drives that according to cash Patel, no one had ever seen or heard
- 24:46of.
- 24:47And this is the new FBI director now.
- 24:50What's going to happen here with this one Andy?
- 24:51This is a new story.
- 24:53Well, just think from it, David, if Kamala Harris had won the last presidential election.
- 24:59First of all, you have a bunch of J6 protesters and pro-life grandma's still in jail, okay?
- 25:09And all these things that we're talking about here, these documents and things that
- 25:13cash Patel director of the FBI, I guess he is, is finding what Tulsi Gabbert is declassifying.
- 25:22Things that Pam Bondy is doing, all of these things that we're seeing, all of it would
- 25:29have been swept under the rug had Kamala one.
- 25:33And that's why I call these people that Trump has put into these positions disruptors.
- 25:40I mean, they're disrupting the Obama agenda simply by turning the search light of truth
- 25:45onto things, things that it would have been swept under the rug at Kamala's cronies, you
- 25:51know, been in place.
- 25:52Yeah.
- 25:53One more quote from the article and not to, well, I think we need to just share things
- 25:57like this, sources said that Patel and his team discovered a previously undisclosed, sensitive
- 26:07compartmental information facility.
- 26:10They have a brief haven for it, SCIF in the FBI headquarters.
- 26:15And Patel said, when I first got to the bureau, I found a room that Komi and others had
- 26:22are hid from the world in the Hoover building full of documents and computer hard drives.
- 26:30This is, this is just amazing stuff.
- 26:32This is like, this is like what Hollywood would imagine to come up with talking about a corrupt
- 26:37government.
- 26:38But anyway, Andy, we're down to a minute.
- 26:41We're going to do another episode with you, but we're thankful for your time.
- 26:46Just to bring us back to the Christian perspective as we close out here.
- 26:51Well, the Christian perspective is always speak the truth and love Ephesians 4 verse 15.
- 26:58So obviously we need to be loving in our presentation, but as God's people, when we're called
- 27:04the children of the light constantly, we're always interested in the light exposing darkness.
- 27:10And this is what's happening here as these scandals from the Obama years, you know, are
- 27:14being kind of uprooted and unearthed and exposed.
- 27:19And so I just put it kind of into a Ephesians 5 category, you know, don't cooperate with
- 27:26those that are performing the deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
- 27:31And I think you're seeing evidence of that happening with some of these new Trump picks.
- 27:36Amen.
- 27:37Friends, we just pray more light will expose the darkness and the truth will be revealed.
- 27:43Brother, thanks for your time.
- 27:44We'll do another one, Lord willing, and we'll see you next time.
- 27:48Right.
- 27:49Thank you.
- 27:50God bless you, friends, family and Christ.
- 27:52Share this one and keep speaking the truth about things that matter.