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HW 2026-06-25 Battered to Blessed Part 1 - Dr. James Marcum & Brenda Walsh · Heartwise

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Speaker 1: This is Heartwives, offering practical tips and time proven guidelines
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Speaker 1: to make your life healthier, happier, and more fulfilling. Today
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Speaker 1: you'll learn simple, Bible based principles for building and maintaining
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Speaker 1: optimum mental and physical health, all while deepening your relationship
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Speaker 1: with your creator. Here's your Heartwise host, doctor James markham.
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Speaker 2: Well, we want to welcome everyone to Heartwise today and
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Speaker 2: each week we talk about different aspects of medicine and healing.
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Speaker 2: We talk about the place where modern medicine is needed.
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Speaker 2: We talk about lifestyle changes, we talk about the relationship
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Speaker 2: with our heavenly father. Well, recently, I was talking to
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Speaker 2: a patient in the office the other day and I
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Speaker 2: was talking about you know, where does health come from?
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Speaker 2: And you know, your health comes from your genetics, who
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Speaker 2: your mom and dad are, and unfortunately you can't change that.
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Speaker 2: It comes from the good food you eat which makes
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Speaker 2: you healthy. We talked about antioxidants a few weeks ago,
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Speaker 2: and also comes from the bad foods you eat, which
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Speaker 2: can damage your body. We've talked about health comes from
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Speaker 2: our exercise, our movement programs, and how much we rest,
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Speaker 2: but more and more we're learning that what changes your
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Speaker 2: chemistry also is the way we think, the way our
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Speaker 2: brain works. We've talked to people all over the United
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Speaker 2: States that are now doing researches that shows it certain
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Speaker 2: things that can harm our chemistry. In the heart world,
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Speaker 2: we've talked about the broken heart syndrome. When we see
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Speaker 2: someone that dies suddenly, all the adrenaline we know that depression,
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Speaker 2: people that watch Violet TV, people that are hurt, it
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Speaker 2: turns on their limbic system, which makes a lot of
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Speaker 2: stress chemistry. So it only makes sense it heart wise
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Speaker 2: to start dealing with that as well. And a lot
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Speaker 2: of people don't think about a prescription pill, they think
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Speaker 2: that's medicine. They think exercise, that's messine. But also when
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Speaker 2: we change our relationship, that's part of the healing process too.
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Speaker 2: That's part of medicine. And today on Heartwise, we've got
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Speaker 2: a wonderful guest on Brenda Walsh, and Brenda has a
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Speaker 2: wonderful ministry and she's going to tell us. Her website
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Speaker 2: is Brenda Walsh dot com where you can learn more
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Speaker 2: about her. She's also going to be a regular on
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Speaker 2: Heartwise and also on our website, helping specifically women to
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Speaker 2: have better relationships with their God, with each other and
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Speaker 2: overcome some of these chemical things that can damage people chemistry. Brenda,
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Speaker 2: we want to welcome you to Heartwise.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, doctor Markham. It's the privilege to be with
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Speaker 3: you today.
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Speaker 2: And you know we'd like you to start. You know,
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Speaker 2: I know we can't go into all of that. You know,
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Speaker 2: we've got a couple programs where we'd like to develop
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Speaker 2: this concept of healing through relationships and overcoming difficulties. But
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Speaker 2: just tell us a little bit about your story today.
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Speaker 3: Sure, I was in family with five children and a
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Speaker 3: very christ centered home. I had wonderful Christian parents and honestly,
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Speaker 3: no one could ever ask for a better childhood upbringing.
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Speaker 3: But unfortunately, when doesn't matter what upbringing you have, you
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Speaker 3: reach a point in your adult life that it comes
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Speaker 3: down to your own choices and you reach the consequences
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Speaker 3: of those choices. And when I was eighteen, I chose
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Speaker 3: the past God didn't choose for me, and that one
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Speaker 3: decision alone almost costs in my life because I found
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Speaker 3: myself in a very horrible domestic violence marriage and I
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Speaker 3: actually wrote a book about it called Battered to Bless,
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Speaker 3: where I know there isn't going to be time to
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Speaker 3: tell my story so that if somebody wanted to hear
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Speaker 3: the story, because that book is so full of healing,
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Speaker 3: because really, honestly, Jesus is the only healer of hearts.
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Speaker 3: And I found myself, you know, right out of high school.
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Speaker 3: I was encouraged by the Kentucky Pageant to participate in
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Speaker 3: the Miss Kentucky Beauty Pageant. My parents begged me not
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Speaker 3: to do it, and I thought, at eighteen, I knew
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Speaker 3: more than they did. My dad kept saying, you know,
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Speaker 3: there's this, there's now anything about that that's going to
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Speaker 3: glorify God, and and I went ahead because I was
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Speaker 3: eighteen and I just felt like I knew more than
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Speaker 3: my parents. And it was at that pageant that my
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Speaker 3: ex husband was there. He was a police officer doing
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Speaker 3: extra duty there for extra money, and he bragged to
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Speaker 3: his friends that he was going to get a date
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Speaker 3: with me, and they laughed at him. When I walked
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Speaker 3: down that runway in my bathing suit for the Beauty
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Speaker 3: part Suit bathing suit competition, he bragged to his friends
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Speaker 3: that he was going to get a date and and
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Speaker 3: I told him, I mean they told him. He told
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Speaker 3: them that he would and they laughed at him, and
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Speaker 3: he said okay, twenty dollars says not I'll love only
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Speaker 3: get a date, I'll marry her. Oh wow. And so
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Speaker 3: you know, so that began really my downfall that had
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Speaker 3: I not participated even in that pageant, I would have
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Speaker 3: never ended up into the marriage that I ended up in,
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Speaker 3: because it was there that he saw me and he
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Speaker 3: set about really to go after he even moved into
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Speaker 3: an apartment right across the hall from where my sister
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Speaker 3: and her husband were living. And that's where I was
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Speaker 3: staying with my sister at the time. Wow, during the summer,
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Speaker 3: and so you know, I was working as a student nurse,
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Speaker 3: and I was working at a drug and alcohol rehab center,
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Speaker 3: and I didn't know there's not time to go through
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Speaker 3: all the details, but because of the series events and
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Speaker 3: nurses not showing up and my nursing supervisor giving me
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Speaker 3: sleeping pills so that I could sleep during the day
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Speaker 3: and come back and work a double shift because you know,
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Speaker 3: there wasn't enough nurses covering, and then I ended up
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Speaker 3: in a very short amount of time getting very addicted
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Speaker 3: to sleeping pills. And it was on one of those
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Speaker 3: evenings that she'd have me take sleeping pills before I
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Speaker 3: left work, and then by the time I got home,
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Speaker 3: which is less than fifteen minute drive, you know, they
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Speaker 3: would start to take their toll on me and i'd
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Speaker 3: be able to go to sleep and you know, come
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Speaker 3: back and do it all over again. Well, it was
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Speaker 3: during that night that I was actually able to leave
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Speaker 3: work and go home. Then my ex husband pulled me
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Speaker 3: over in his police car, and through a series of
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Speaker 3: events that followed, I found myself. He tricked me, and
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Speaker 3: I found myself. You know, he asked me to come
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Speaker 3: in and listen to music in his apartment, which you know,
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Speaker 3: I know I should have as a Christian girl, know
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Speaker 3: I should have never been in a man's apartment alone
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Speaker 3: at any time, But I did. I passed out in
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Speaker 3: the department and woke up the next morning in his sack,
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Speaker 3: and he told me that we had, you know, had sex.
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Speaker 3: And I had never even enjoyed a long kids with
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Speaker 3: the man before. I had didn't. I was so green
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Speaker 3: and so naive that I didn't know how that even happened,
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Speaker 3: and and so I believed him, and I was so humiliated.
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Speaker 3: And I also believed that if if a man and
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Speaker 3: wife were intimate, or a woman and asked you know,
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Speaker 3: a man were intimate, that they were married, and God dies,
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Speaker 3: so regardless of whether there was a you know, I
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Speaker 3: felt like I really had no other choice. But I
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Speaker 3: was going to have to marry him, because you know,
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Speaker 3: I was already married in God's eyes. I was so devastated.
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Speaker 3: I pleaded with God just to let me die. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I was so but I also because of pride, Doctor
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Speaker 3: mark them. You know, Pride even announced the bridal separators
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Speaker 3: from Jesus. And I was so filled with pride. I thought, well,
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Speaker 3: if I have to marry this man anyway, and and
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Speaker 3: why does anybody have to know what a horrible, despicable
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Speaker 3: person I was that I'd ended up in Another man said,
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Speaker 3: and so I thought. I went about this whole thing
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Speaker 3: praying and praying and praying, asking God to help me,
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Speaker 3: asking how to save me, and then I was figuring
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Speaker 3: out how God she answered that prayer, and we both
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Speaker 3: know that that prayer just doesn't work that way. But
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Speaker 3: but I had, you know, decided the course of action
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Speaker 3: that the best thing to do since I had to
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Speaker 3: marry him anyway. It was just act like everybody, I
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Speaker 3: was in love with him and that it was going
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Speaker 3: to be a marriage that was going to be fine,
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Speaker 3: and and somehow I'd find a way to love this man.
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Speaker 3: I didn't even know him. I only know him two weeks. Wow,
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Speaker 3: and so and so I ended up when you know,
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Speaker 3: I ended up married to this man that I didn't even.
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Speaker 2: Know at eight at eighteen, Brenda at eighteen.
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Speaker 3: And it was on my wedding night that I found
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Speaker 3: out that I had been a virgin all along, Oh my,
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Speaker 3: And it was the most devastating, you know, discovery, and
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Speaker 3: and in the you know, you know, in the aftermath,
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Speaker 3: and it was such a brutal event. And there's a
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Speaker 3: horrible situation that happened. And I can remember just picking
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Speaker 3: myself up off the floor and dragging myself to the
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Speaker 3: bathroom and just crying and crying. And I stood at
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Speaker 3: the bathroom door from minute and he was laughing hysterically
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Speaker 3: on the back and said, I said, what are you
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Speaker 3: laughing at? And he said, because you're so blankety blank stupid.
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Speaker 3: And he said, you really felt for that, And I said,
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Speaker 3: can you tell me that? Why when you had me
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Speaker 3: naked in a bed next to you, why didn't you
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Speaker 3: take advantage of me then when you could clearly could
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Speaker 3: have and he set up on the edge of the
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Speaker 3: bed long enough to just look at me like I
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Speaker 3: was really an idiot and say, because you're just not
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Speaker 3: blank and worth it. He said, you think I'd lose
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Speaker 3: my badge for you? And I mean that was the
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Speaker 3: beginning of the downward spiral. So I found myself just
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Speaker 3: thinking lower and lower and lower, and I reached the
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Speaker 3: point every single day I prayed that God would take me.
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Speaker 3: I just prayed that he I was And of course
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Speaker 3: that's always the tower's way out. It's just you want
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Speaker 3: release and you want a waste and the pain. But
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Speaker 3: I mean, he shortly after we were married, he was
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Speaker 3: promoted to that promotion that he's been wanting for so long.
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Speaker 3: He was a Kentucky State Police officer, and now he was.
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Speaker 3: He finally got that job he had applied for and
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Speaker 3: had been wanting.
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Speaker 2: With uh, Brenda, Brenda, I'm going to stop you right here,
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Speaker 2: because we're going to come right back after this break
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Speaker 2: and continue this most interesting story. Listeners, stay with Us're
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Speaker 2: going to be right back.
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Speaker 1: In his book The Ultimate Prescription, now available from Tyndale
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Heartwise. We're talking today with Brenda Walsh
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Speaker 2: and she has a wonderful story that she's telling us.
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Speaker 2: And we found out the first segment that she was
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Speaker 2: an aspiring nursing student, made some bad decisions, got married
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Speaker 2: at a very young age, married to a policeman. Brenda,
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Speaker 2: continue your story here. You left us when he was
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Speaker 2: part of the police force. Just continue the story.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and he had just been promoted to FBI. He
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Speaker 3: was putting the narcotics division, and the good news was
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Speaker 3: that it kept him farther, you know, I'm farther away
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Speaker 3: from home and a longer periods of times. But when
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Speaker 3: he did come home, it was it was very violent.
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Speaker 3: The violence as violence actually started right away. And it's
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Speaker 3: always about of control, you know, it's a they control
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Speaker 3: your mind. And pretty soon everything was my fault, not
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Speaker 3: only in his mind, but my mind too. And not
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Speaker 3: long after we were married, I got pregnant, and there
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Speaker 3: was just so many things, doctor Markham, that I could
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Speaker 3: share that there just wasn't time to share. But I
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Speaker 3: can tell you that there was a really a really
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Speaker 3: violent and see there was a time when I was
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Speaker 3: kicked down the flight of stairs and hospitalized, that didn't
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Speaker 3: know if the baby would live. The times that, you know,
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Speaker 3: if he would drade me out to a shooting range
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Speaker 3: and make me stand on the target and he'd shoot
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Speaker 3: all around me, you know, until I would just beg
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Speaker 3: him to go ahead and just kill oh. And it's
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Speaker 3: you know, it's amazing to me how much God protected
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Speaker 3: me with even with my prayers that I was praying,
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Speaker 3: and I wasn't even praying the right way because I
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Speaker 3: was praying such a coward perer most of the time
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Speaker 3: of God, just please let me die, Please let me die.
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Speaker 3: I dream about ways I could just die. And then
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Speaker 3: once my child was born, I wanted to live. I
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Speaker 3: couldn't imagine leading this child in this world without him.
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Speaker 3: And I tell the story in my book of you know,
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Speaker 3: when Becky was just Becky's, my daughter, and when she
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Speaker 3: was just four days old, I had just come home
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Speaker 3: from the hospital and had gotten her tucked into bed,
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Speaker 3: and I tell the story where to ask, you know,
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Speaker 3: just four days old? And you know, he raped me
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Speaker 3: so so horribly, so violently that I mean it literally
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Speaker 3: ripped all my stitches out, if you can imagine how
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Speaker 3: tender a woman that just had broth and has a pasiotomy.
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Speaker 3: And I nearly blood to death, and I pleaded and
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Speaker 3: prayed that God would save me. I'm bleeding out on
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Speaker 3: the bathroom floor. I've scot von Willibron's disease. I'm a
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Speaker 3: bleeder and so I'm sure you know about that. And
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Speaker 3: so my risk for death was even greater. And I
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Speaker 3: can remember him spitting in my face when I'm pleading
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Speaker 3: with him to take me to hospital. I said I'm
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Speaker 3: going to die, and he spit in my face and said,
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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing to look at death on
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Speaker 3: your face. And here, at one o'clock in the morning,
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Speaker 3: my sister Linda, who lived next door to me, wakes
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Speaker 3: up out of a sound sleep and pressed that I
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Speaker 3: need her runs across to my house, banging on the door.
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Speaker 3: Here in the middle of that. How many people would
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Speaker 3: turned around and see this block and see that it's
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Speaker 3: one in the morning, roll over and said, I'll call
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Speaker 3: it in the morning. But no, she's somebody that really
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Speaker 3: listen to God's voice. And it saved my life because
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Speaker 3: the minute that he answered the door, he was all, O,
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Speaker 3: Brinda just fell and hurt herself. I need to give
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Speaker 3: to the hospital. I was just getting ready to call you.
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Speaker 3: And so you see how God intervened over and over
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Speaker 3: and over. I share those kind of experiences in the book.
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Speaker 3: The really bad stuff isn't even in the book because
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Speaker 3: a reader wouldn't be able to get paid to God's
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Speaker 3: glory if they had to read through all that pain.
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Speaker 3: But I tell the story of how God allowed me
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Speaker 3: to even leave. He used my sister London a powerful
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Speaker 3: way to help me get out of that bad situation.
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Speaker 3: Really and truly, Jesus saved me. And it was never
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Speaker 3: his will that I'd be a dadded woman. It was
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Speaker 3: never his will that I suffer, and it's never any
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Speaker 3: his will that any of us should suffer. He wants
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Speaker 3: us to have life and have it more abundantly. But
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Speaker 3: I praised the Lord that he heard my christ, he
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Speaker 3: heard my prayer. He lifted me out of the depths
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Speaker 3: of despair. And I can tell you through my faith
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Speaker 3: in God, through his strength, through his healing power of healing,
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Speaker 3: he healed my heart. And I wouldn't be the person
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Speaker 3: I am today if it wasn't God in my life.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what people do that don't have God
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Speaker 3: in their life. And most people, doctor Markham would say
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Speaker 3: that somebody that went through everything that I went through
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Speaker 3: should be locked up in some middle home somewhere, or
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Speaker 3: on you know, psychotic drugs or something you know, to
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Speaker 3: get by. And I actually had a psychiatrist travel once
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Speaker 3: I was doing a concert tour in Brazil. He traveled
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Speaker 3: all eight hours to come up to meet me because
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Speaker 3: he had read my book and he said, I just
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Speaker 3: want to know. Tell me what are you on? He said,
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Speaker 3: because if you just shared it with me, I have
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Speaker 3: so many patients to be helped because you're so normal
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Speaker 3: and you're doing all these wonderful things for God. He said,
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Speaker 3: tell me what do you take? Are you on proback?
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Speaker 3: You know? Are you on you know? You need to
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Speaker 3: start listening to all these And I said, I'm not
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Speaker 3: taking anything and he said, he said, please, I didn't.
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Speaker 3: He says, I know it's the risk. He said, if
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Speaker 3: you just tell me, I won't even tell anybody that
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Speaker 3: you know that it's you. I just want to know
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Speaker 3: what's helping you. And I looked at him and I said,
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Speaker 3: I'm high on Jesus. And he was like, wow, Wow,
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Speaker 3: that's incredible. And the truth is most people probably would
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Speaker 3: think that to go about and do the things that
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Speaker 3: God is having me do today, that I would have
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Speaker 3: to be on some type of psych dregs or whatever.
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Speaker 3: But I can tell you that when Jesus heals, he
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Speaker 3: heals completely. And he really did come in and just
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Speaker 3: heal my heart. And I love the Lord with all
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Speaker 3: my heart. I know what he's done. I've seen his
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Speaker 3: power and I know that the healing power of faith. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and it's it's a tremendous you know, it's a tremendous,
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Speaker 3: horrible thing that I went through. But God can pick
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Speaker 3: up the pieces of anyone's life. And you know, if
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Speaker 3: he can do that for me, he can do it
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Speaker 3: for anyone. And he can create and and help you
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Speaker 3: to be the person He created you to be. That's right,
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Speaker 3: It really starts with surrender.
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Speaker 2: We're speaking today with Brenda Wall She's written the book
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Speaker 2: Better to bless Than. That book can be found at
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Speaker 2: her website that's Brenda Walsh dot com. And we're talking
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Speaker 2: to Brenda and heartwives today and helping everyone realize it's
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Speaker 2: your brain relationships. It affects your chemistry. And I think
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Speaker 2: she's told what the anecdote, Brenda, you know you were young,
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Speaker 2: you lost all your dreams. What sort of what sort
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Speaker 2: of turned this thing around? Really it was, I guess
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Speaker 2: you had to leave the relationship, the bad relationship.
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Speaker 3: I'm getting relationship. Yeah. God helped me escape from the
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Speaker 3: bad relationship, and he used my sister in a very
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Speaker 3: powerful way to do it. And I had the awso
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Speaker 3: that just the love for my family and support from
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Speaker 3: my family, and I had my faith in God. It
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Speaker 3: was leaning on him and trusting in him. And every
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Speaker 3: time that the enemy would want to tell me what
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Speaker 3: a horrible stick off of person I was, God would
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Speaker 3: remind me that I was a child of the keys.
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Speaker 2: How long? How long were you in this abusive relationship?
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Speaker 3: I was actually there for just a little over a year,
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Speaker 3: And it was like I went into it as a
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Speaker 3: very naive little girl, and I kind of loved an
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Speaker 3: old woman, if that makes any sense, you know, because
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Speaker 3: I had to grow up really that bad and it
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Speaker 3: was a rude to and cruel awakening to how evil
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Speaker 3: this world can be. But I also know the power
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Speaker 3: of positive thinking. And I had a friend I tell
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Speaker 3: the story of the book that was a physician that
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Speaker 3: really he had seven different medical degrees. He was incredible,
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Speaker 3: and he worked with me so patiently to help me
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Speaker 3: understand the power of the mind. Really when that's what
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Speaker 3: I love about your ministry so much, because there really
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Speaker 3: I'm a living proof of that because I know every
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Speaker 3: time that I would hear he would help me know
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Speaker 3: he did. Now, there's going to be things, And even
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Speaker 3: at a conversation somewhere that someone's going to say something
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Speaker 3: and it's going to trigger a bad memory. And he said,
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Speaker 3: and what you do is you stomp that away. These
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Speaker 3: are the tools you could use to push that way.
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Speaker 3: Put that bad memory on the shelf, and you're never
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Speaker 3: going to take it down again. And he gave me
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Speaker 3: those little tools that your mind can do to help
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Speaker 3: you keep those bad things on the shelf. And I
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Speaker 3: don't take them off the shelf for any reason. You know,
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Speaker 3: the really really bad things that would be hard for
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Speaker 3: me to deal with every day, I just keep on
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Speaker 3: the shelf. And he told me the really the benefits.
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Speaker 3: He helped me learn the benefits of positive thinking. And
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Speaker 3: every time, he say, every time the enemy wants to
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Speaker 3: tell you what a bad person you are, he said,
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Speaker 3: you allow God to tell you what a great person
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Speaker 3: you are because you are a child of the team
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Speaker 3: of the universe.
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Speaker 2: Wow is one And.
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Speaker 3: That really it made a huge difference in my life.
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Speaker 2: You know, we have a couple of minutes here before
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Speaker 2: we finish up this program, but I want to let
21:46
Speaker 2: our listeners know that Brenda Walsh is going to be
21:49
Speaker 2: a part of our ministry at heartwise, and we're going
21:51
Speaker 2: to have a place on our web page where you
21:54
Speaker 2: can interact with her. And we understand that the brain
21:58
Speaker 2: and relationships affects our stress chemical in our health overall.
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Speaker 2: And you might be someone out there that's struggling with
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Speaker 2: with bad relationships or abusive relationships. So Brenda, through her experience,
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Speaker 2: we're going to talk more about this in our next program,
22:11
Speaker 2: is going to be able to share and help you.
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Speaker 2: And I want to invite you to go to her
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Speaker 2: website Brenda Walsh dot com. She's written this wonderful bestseller,
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Speaker 2: Blessed Batter to bless It, and she's working on many
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Speaker 2: more projects that will help not only ministry women, but
22:27
Speaker 2: all this she's trying to change chemistry, not with pills,
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Speaker 2: but a whole different ways by changing our brain, the
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Speaker 2: changing your relationship, by strengthening the front part of our brain,
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Speaker 2: the prefrontal cortex, by decreasing the stress chemistry of the
22:41
Speaker 2: brain that she knows firsthand. So so Brenda, I mean,
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Speaker 2: we just want to thank you so much and we're
22:48
Speaker 2: going to you know, the next program, we're going to
22:50
Speaker 2: talk about where where, where God has taken you from here,
22:55
Speaker 2: what he's doing in your life, how he's leading, how
22:58
Speaker 2: people can be a part of you, your ministry and
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Speaker 2: how you can continue to help others that might be
23:03
Speaker 2: in the same boat. Out there. There might be listeners
23:06
Speaker 2: that are experiencing the same thing, maybe not to such
23:09
Speaker 2: a greater degree, but to a lesser degree, and want
23:12
Speaker 2: to learn the steps that you've learned about how they
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Speaker 2: can come out of this and how they can connect
23:16
Speaker 2: with the relationship which you can maybe keep them from
23:18
Speaker 2: a dangerous health problem.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely so.
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Speaker 2: So listener, if you're with us, we want to invite
23:23
Speaker 2: you to go to our website Heartwivesministries dot org and
23:26
Speaker 2: please stay with us. Our next program, we're going to
23:29
Speaker 2: continue this discussion with Brenda Walsh. We're going to find
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Speaker 2: out how she's overcoming and what God's doing in her
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Speaker 2: life today and how she's healing the world. She might
23:38
Speaker 2: not be giving prescriptions out but she's doing some mighty
23:41
Speaker 2: healing in Jesus's name. So stay with us next week
23:45
Speaker 2: and thank you for joining us this week. I'm doctor
23:47
Speaker 2: James Barkham, wishing you the best of health.
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