Latest / The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast / Spring Series: What You Need to Know About the Enneagram Four! | Dr. Anne Morgan
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- 0:00SPEAKER_02: Have you found yourself saying things like, No one can really understand my unique struggles?
- 0:06SPEAKER_02: Why do I feel as if I don't belong anywhere?
- 0:09SPEAKER_02: I want to create something authentic and original.
- 0:12SPEAKER_02: I feel their pain so deeply.
- 0:15SPEAKER_02: How can you dismiss it so easily?
- 0:18SPEAKER_02: If these are something you would say, or they're a familiar phrase you've heard a loved one say, you might be a for or no an Enneagram for.
- 0:27SPEAKER_02: I would love to have you join me in a journey of self-discovery and compassion to learn insights about the personality type who is often known as the individualist, the romantic, the creative, and the authenticity advocate.
- 0:43SPEAKER_02: If you know a for or want others to know more about the Enneagram 4 personality type, go ahead and follow that prompting to share this podcast episode with them.
- 0:52SPEAKER_02: You can use the platform share feature so this episode can give others an opportunity to learn more about the uniquely empathetic nature of the Enneagram 4.
- 1:06SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
- 1:10SPEAKER_02: I'm your host, Amy Wicks, your wholehearted living coach.
- 1:14SPEAKER_02: And I'm so glad that you stopped by to spend some time with me.
- 1:18SPEAKER_02: Are you curious about the Enneagram?
- 1:20SPEAKER_02: Do you want to learn biblical truths?
- 1:23SPEAKER_02: And have you wondered if there are life rhythms that will help you thrive?
- 1:27SPEAKER_02: Well, friend, you are in the right place.
- 1:31SPEAKER_02: For six years, this podcast has focused on sharing conversations with my friends about life, business, motherhood, faith, and all things Enneagram from a Christian perspective.
- 1:44SPEAKER_02: I truly understand what it's like to juggle everything as a wife, mom to three teenagers, a pup, and all while building a growing business.
- 1:53SPEAKER_02: And friend, I haven't always done things with clarity, peace, or joy.
- 1:58SPEAKER_02: But still, the Lord has taken my broken-hearted pieces and healed them so I can live with whole-hearted rhythm to provide women like you with a step-by-step process so you can get free of anxiety, shame, and frustrations that might be holding you back from thriving.
- 2:16SPEAKER_02: I pray that the Lord speaks to you as you listen today and that you would invite your friends and family to join the fun conversations.
- 2:24SPEAKER_02: Are you ready to laugh a little and learn a whole lot?
- 2:28SPEAKER_02: Alrighty, let's get to the conversation.
- 2:52SPEAKER_02: Yep, lots of options for nail color, right?
- 2:56SPEAKER_02: But this episode is going to give you some highlights to help you understand more about the perspective of a four.
- 3:03SPEAKER_02: As we dive in, I want you to know that I've got your back.
- 3:07SPEAKER_02: That if this whole concept of Enneagram is new to you, or if you're new to understanding the Enneagram 4, well, I have got a plethora of resources.
- 3:16SPEAKER_02: You can look in the show notes for recommendations and all the options available to you.
- 3:23SPEAKER_02: In this episode, I'm going to share specific traits and insights about this personality.
- 3:29SPEAKER_02: And you'll even get a firsthand account of an Enneagram 4 and her experience in the wholehearted self-discovery process.
- 3:36SPEAKER_02: And in the end, you get to hear Deanna Sudum, a fellow Enneagram 4, share a scripture and a prayer specifically for you or your loved one who is a 4.
- 3:47SPEAKER_02: Now, what does a typical Enneagram 4 look like as a child?
- 3:51SPEAKER_02: Well, they are likely to be a little bit more sensitive, maybe attuned to feelings within themselves and others.
- 3:59SPEAKER_02: They have often felt like they just didn't fit in anywhere.
- 4:02SPEAKER_02: They were always trying to find their people and a sense of belonging.
- 4:06SPEAKER_02: I've even heard a few fours joke that they grew up thinking for sure that they were adopted, even though they weren't.
- 4:14SPEAKER_02: They often have active imaginations, uh, point in case, the last example, but they also may feel a deep sense of loneliness and abandonment.
- 4:25SPEAKER_02: Now, Enneagram Fours' children often have an ache to be known and loved, but their complex emotions may often diminish their genuine receptivity and love from their caregivers.
- 4:36SPEAKER_02: While they naturally celebrate and practice wonder of the details of all things beautiful and magnificent, they miss seeing this beauty within themselves.
- 4:46SPEAKER_02: When they're unable to recognize their own beauty or even their ability to belong with any specific circle of friends or even with their family, this creates a sense of disconnect from themselves, propelling their quest for authenticity and uniqueness, and that hunt for the missing piece within themselves.
- 5:05SPEAKER_02: Now, fours are motivated by the need to experience their feelings and to be understood and to search for the meaning of life and ultimately to avoid feeling ordinary or even being ordinary.
- 5:17SPEAKER_02: As a four continues to mature, they fear being dull, emotionally cut off, commonplace, or being stuck in the mundane.
- 5:27SPEAKER_02: Fours can often feel misunderstood, which leads them to experiencing darker moods and even feeling envious of others.
- 5:35SPEAKER_02: The four's decision-making strength associates them with what is known as the heart triad.
- 5:40SPEAKER_02: The last couple weeks we've talked about that.
- 5:44SPEAKER_02: A four is gonna feel information first, and then they will incorporate either reaction or thinking secondarily.
- 5:51SPEAKER_02: Another commonality of the heart triad is their desire for significance.
- 5:56SPEAKER_02: A type in the heart triad is going to be led by their reaction to their emotional struggle, which is a feeling of shame.
- 6:05SPEAKER_02: While the four struggles with shame, and we all do in some measure, a four's unique struggle with shame is about this missing piece within them or this irreversible flaw.
- 6:16SPEAKER_02: And it's often associated when others miss their need to be seen and validated.
- 6:23SPEAKER_02: This usually looks like when someone comes along and tries to cheer them up because they're dealing with this disappointment or dismay about themselves.
- 6:30SPEAKER_02: The four in their unique struggle for significance may become self-absorbed and uninterested in others' feelings in order to avoid their own feelings of shame.
- 6:41SPEAKER_02: So when their ideals fail and their expectations of significance go unmet, like being seen and belonging, they may get caught in a cycle of moodiness and rejection.
- 6:52SPEAKER_02: And when their desire for validation from others is rejected, they may choose to slip into their fantasy world, which often fuels their shame.
- 7:00SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's a vicious cycle, right, friend?
- 7:04SPEAKER_02: The four's communication preference falls within the withdrawing stance in the Enneagram, which means a lot of things, but one of their strengths is being mindful of the past.
- 7:14SPEAKER_02: A four tends to think, what should I have done differently?
- 7:17SPEAKER_02: And they are likely to dwell on what caused them unrest or what caused them to feel a lack of significance, being seen, or being misunderstood.
- 7:27SPEAKER_02: This may even cause them to tune out and daydream instead of engaging in the present moment with the people that they're with.
- 7:36SPEAKER_02: When understanding the four's repression center, they do fall into the category of doing repression.
- 7:42SPEAKER_02: Again, we don't like these repression centers, but specifically the price the four pays by being doing repressed or being stuck in that is not finishing what is essential.
- 7:54SPEAKER_02: Now, this is not the same as a seven who is known to bounce from thing to thing.
- 7:58SPEAKER_02: A four gives up because they give up on themselves.
- 8:03SPEAKER_02: They tend to only see their inability or ability in extremes.
- 8:08SPEAKER_02: What triggers a four is knowing that they have so much potential, but then they compare themselves to everything out there, and then they feel they lack or that thing is missing, right?
- 8:18SPEAKER_02: And therefore they feel inadequate and they give up on their dreams.
- 8:24SPEAKER_02: This is why the four is invited to be cognizant of their tendency to over-identify with a sense of belonging or even being an outcast, right?
- 8:34SPEAKER_02: That either-or mentality.
- 8:35SPEAKER_02: The invitation is to actively speak truth to the rightful place that they have in their circles of community.
- 8:43SPEAKER_02: Now, even if a four is not able to be a hundred percent authentic, right?
- 8:48SPEAKER_02: Totally vulnerable and transparent, or if they're not always the first to be invited in an exclusive relationship, a four needs to remind themselves that they still have a valuable role to play in those relationships.
- 9:01SPEAKER_02: So they still belong.
- 9:04SPEAKER_02: They're not an outcast just because those prerequisites aren't being met.
- 9:11SPEAKER_02: When faced with loss and grief, the four may naturally grieve what happened in the past.
- 9:15SPEAKER_02: So in the face of loss, they may experience delayed grief.
- 9:19SPEAKER_02: But of course, when they have space and time to reflect and to emote, they may surprise themselves or even catch others off guard by grieving what happened maybe months ago, years ago.
- 9:32SPEAKER_02: This is so important for these withdrawing types to be able to have the time and space to reflect and really be able to process what has been lost or what they're grieving.
- 9:44SPEAKER_02: Like all other Enneagram types, the four's wings are on either side of its number on the diagram.
- 9:50SPEAKER_02: So for the four, that means it has a wing three and a wing five.
- 9:55SPEAKER_02: So either side, just like an insect.
- 9:58SPEAKER_02: The four-wing three tends to be a little bit more extroverted, competitive, maybe upbeat compared to the melancholy, ambitious, and concerned with image.
- 10:10SPEAKER_02: The four-wing five may be more introverted in comparison, focused on intellect and knowledge, more withdrawn, reserved, observant, and also maybe struggle more with depression.
- 10:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we could maybe do a whole episode about that four-wing five, five-wing four thing and the way the diagram is depicted.
- 10:32SPEAKER_02: There's that gap between those.
- 10:34SPEAKER_02: It's often what Enneagram teachers have used to explain the deep melancholy that that wing combination tends to experience.
- 10:43SPEAKER_02: It's kind of an interesting thing to think about, and I know a lot of my clients deeply relate to this illustration.
- 10:49SPEAKER_02: When an Enneagram 4 is triggered, they may self-sabotage and engage to the low side of the two.
- 10:56SPEAKER_02: This is when aloof force may suddenly become over-involved and clingy with others.
- 11:01SPEAKER_02: They may try to manipulate those they love into loving them because they operate under the coping mechanism that getting attention from others will replace their own emptiness.
- 11:13SPEAKER_02: Of course, in the end, this creates a chasm in the authentic connection they so desire because they realize they are trying to form something that maybe isn't truly authentic and a real connection.
- 11:28SPEAKER_02: But when a fora practices rhythms of resting in solitude, this practice teaches them to be present to themselves, God, and others.
- 11:38SPEAKER_02: And this opens the door to encounter Jesus, the true originalist.
- 11:42SPEAKER_02: Their broken-hearted moments are transformed into wholehearted healing as they declare these truth statements.
- 11:49SPEAKER_02: May I feel truly seen by God.
- 11:51SPEAKER_02: May I be at peace with my authentic self.
- 11:54SPEAKER_02: And may I give myself the gift of belonging in my own skin with the unique life that I have.
- 12:08SPEAKER_02: And when you rest in solitude, you can believe that being alone is okay.
- 12:14SPEAKER_02: Resting from the inner turmoil and the angst gives you an opportunity to receive the truth of what God sees.
- 12:21SPEAKER_02: And when a four draws their acceptance from him, this allows a four to give back in their relationships with clarity and calm, without the neediness.
- 12:32SPEAKER_02: I love that A.J.
- 12:33SPEAKER_02: Sherrill advises Enneagram Fours to observe rhythms of feasting with those that they trust.
- 12:38SPEAKER_02: This helps to birth a sense of joy.
- 12:41SPEAKER_02: The day of the church calendar to call to mind is Resurrection Sunday, or what we know as Easter.
- 12:48SPEAKER_02: This is a day of celebration that true light has overcome the darkness of Good Friday.
- 12:54SPEAKER_02: And Easter reminds us of four that no matter how dark their circumstances within their inner world, joy does come in the morning and someday will remain with us forever.
- 13:05SPEAKER_02: In addition to spiritual rhythms, here are some practical tips for a four to remember.
- 13:11SPEAKER_02: Spend some time in acknowledgement and gratitude of the commonplace.
- 13:15SPEAKER_02: Practice at verbal affirmation of others' unique traits, qualities, and accomplishments.
- 13:20SPEAKER_02: And when a four learns to examine their current focus of attention about what is missing, but then they choose to refocus on what is in the present, available and valuable in the moment, this will lessen the feeling of being disconnected or separated from others.
- 13:38SPEAKER_02: I would love to introduce you to an Enneagram 4.
- 13:42SPEAKER_02: And this is one of my clients, Dr.
- 13:44SPEAKER_02: Ann Morgan.
- 13:45SPEAKER_02: I'm so grateful for her trust and the opportunity to be a guide by the side a couple years ago, and even more thankful that she has been willing to share some of her story with you.
- 13:55SPEAKER_02: She's truly a brilliant woman, and I love that we get to meet at a monthly gathering here in Kansas City called Wise Woman.
- 14:05SPEAKER_02: And she herself is a very wise woman, and I love learning about holistic healing and health when it comes to your hormones because she runs integrative wellness called Thrive Wants More.
- 14:19SPEAKER_02: She is totally a like-minded and wholehearted individual, and I can't wait for you to get to hear her story.
- 14:25SPEAKER_01: Hello.
- 14:45SPEAKER_01: Actually, I don't know when I first heard about the Enneagram.
- 14:49SPEAKER_01: It was one of those things that maybe you have nudges from God to kind of push you towards something.
- 14:57SPEAKER_01: The Enneagram is something that I kept hearing about from a variety of people.
- 15:02SPEAKER_01: I am a physician and I do integrative care.
- 15:07SPEAKER_01: So I do really lifestyle medicine.
- 15:10SPEAKER_01: I teach people how to be healthy.
- 15:12SPEAKER_01: And this is something that I had heard about from a few patients, maybe some friends, but I just kept hearing the word Enneagram.
- 15:20SPEAKER_01: And I kept thinking, I need to check that out.
- 15:24SPEAKER_01: That sounds cool, but I don't really know what it is.
- 15:26SPEAKER_01: And so I heard that term um several times, and then I went to a talk where Amy was speaking, and she had us all take a test.
- 15:38SPEAKER_01: So I took the test in a big group setting of maybe a hundred women, and I figured out very clearly that I was a four.
- 15:46SPEAKER_01: Now, at this talk, Amy didn't really tell us what the numbers truly meant.
- 15:53SPEAKER_01: Um I was busy and I was at that luncheon and I left that luncheon and I thought, oh good, well, I'm a four.
- 15:59SPEAKER_01: I don't know what that means, but I'll look it up later.
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: So let's see.
- 16:04SPEAKER_01: The next step was that I kept thinking, okay, I need to figure out what a four is.
- 16:10SPEAKER_01: And um, I think it was two or three days later, it was a Saturday, I got into my car.
- 16:17SPEAKER_01: I was on my way home from the grocery store and had a very short period of time before I had to be on to the next thing.
- 16:25SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm guessing that that sounds familiar to you.
- 16:29SPEAKER_01: But I decided right then and there, when I pulled my car into the garage, shut the garage door, had a car full of groceries to take in, decided I was not going to get out of the car until I figured out what being a four really meant.
- 16:44SPEAKER_01: So I honestly just googled Enneagram for definition and got to a website that offered me a definition of a four or a description of a four.
- 16:56SPEAKER_01: I sat there in my car reading this detailed description about a four and what their biggest fears are and what their biggest motivators are, and I honestly just sobbed.
- 17:11SPEAKER_01: I had never heard of something that described me better.
- 17:18SPEAKER_01: I couldn't have written myself a better description.
- 17:25SPEAKER_01: Had I been trying to describe myself, I wouldn't have done it better than this definition did.
- 17:33SPEAKER_01: And so it was really, really powerful for me to know what being a four meant.
- 17:40SPEAKER_01: Now I wasn't one of those people that um was on the fence about between a couple numbers.
- 17:45SPEAKER_01: I was very clearly a four.
- 17:47SPEAKER_01: And I've taken the test over and over again since then.
- 17:50SPEAKER_01: This was about two years ago, and every time I'm a four because I I think it was really right on for me.
- 17:57SPEAKER_01: Trying to think the next steps.
- 18:00SPEAKER_01: So this really piqued my interest, and actually the the pain that it kind of opened up to read this felt actually like um a wound that I had uncovered.
- 18:13SPEAKER_01: I have been on a journey to kind of work on myself, my business.
- 18:18SPEAKER_01: Um, I've kind of been reinventing myself at age 50, um, 51 now, but at that time, I think I was 49, and I I was really on this journey to discover more about myself, but all of a sudden, I had this definition of myself that felt a little scary because I knew it was right, and I realized that well, this isn't just going to be some personality test that I uncover a few things about.
- 18:48SPEAKER_01: This felt really deep.
- 18:50SPEAKER_01: So I had decided that I did need a coach of some sort.
- 18:56SPEAKER_01: But when I again, when I got so tearful about this and realized how personal this could be, I kind of tabled it for a day or two.
- 19:05SPEAKER_01: And I thought, well, I really don't have the money to spend on a coach right now.
- 19:10SPEAKER_01: And I had told Amy I might be interested in working with her as a coach, but then I when I really thought about it, I thought this might be a little more than I am ready to sign up for.
- 19:22SPEAKER_01: So I actually was watching Mass on TV the very next day, and I was folding laundry, and I heard the priest say something about a quote that he was quoting St.
- 19:36SPEAKER_01: Catherine of Sienna about how when we know ourselves the best, we can be the greatest gift for God.
- 19:43SPEAKER_01: And I knew in that moment that it was time for me to dig into the Enneagram and figure out what a four is and own it.
- 19:51SPEAKER_01: And that journey has been ongoing in the last year and a half.
- 19:56SPEAKER_01: I worked with Amy, it was a wonderful thing.
- 19:59SPEAKER_01: I have really experienced some pivotal change in the way I understand myself, in the way I give myself some grace, when I recognize that my fears are different than 11%, of course.
- 20:12SPEAKER_01: We're talking about nine types that the population is made up of.
- 20:17SPEAKER_01: If I think about only 11% of people actually feel similar to the way I feel, we're all unique, and so we can't get pigeon-told into one type or another, but when I really realize that my fears are somewhat unique to me, and when I really can tap into them and understand them, and when I understand my biggest motivators and the fact that I am creative and artistic and sensitive, and when I recognize that those can be strengths instead of what I've always perceived was a weakness, then it has just honestly been truly pivotal in my understanding of myself and definitely in my relationships.
- 21:06SPEAKER_01: So when I first worked with Amy, I was really struggling with my relationships with my um my young adolescent daughters or young adult daughters too.
- 21:15SPEAKER_01: I had a daughter that was 22 at the time and one that was 16, and I was struggling with them.
- 21:22SPEAKER_01: I'm a single mom, and our relationship was was a little tough.
- 21:26SPEAKER_01: And so Amy really helped me unpack, you know, what it was and how I relate to my daughters differently, how I get a little more sensitive than what they are meaning for me to receive some you know, interactions.
- 21:43SPEAKER_01: I I really started to understand that I really truly am different than they are, and that we all don't relate the same way to each other.
- 21:52SPEAKER_01: And so I had them both take the test, I've had my significant other take the test, I've had my mom.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: Mom and my sister take the test.
- 22:01SPEAKER_01: I've had countless friends take a test so that I can learn what their strengths are, what their motivators are.
- 22:11SPEAKER_01: I love to celebrate when I see their strengths show up.
- 22:17SPEAKER_01: And I love to give them grace when I see their fears come to life.
- 22:23SPEAKER_01: So it has been truly, truly a game changer for me.
- 22:28SPEAKER_01: It's something that I keep coming back to.
- 22:31SPEAKER_01: I like to reread my work that I've done to kind of refresh my knowledge and remind myself to let go of some of that negative self-talk that creeps in.
- 22:43SPEAKER_01: I don't see this growth with the Enneagram ever leaving me as long as I keep coming back to it.
- 22:51SPEAKER_01: One of the things that I think has been important for me to notice, and I've talked a lot about the Enneagram to people, and some people that I've talked to haven't gotten as much out of it.
- 23:03SPEAKER_01: But those are the people that are leaning on their Enneagram number or their spouse's Enneagram number to give them an excuse to say, oh, he always acts that way because he's a one or he's an eight, and that's just him.
- 23:21SPEAKER_01: And I would caution anybody to not get sucked into that trap.
- 23:28SPEAKER_01: This is a powerful tool when we use it to give each other grace and when we use it to understand ourselves better and understand each other better.
- 23:38SPEAKER_01: So I hope that if you're considering taking a journey into discovering more about yourself through Enneagram, that you understand that this is not a one size fits all.
- 23:50SPEAKER_01: I tell patients it's a personality test, but personality is not even near a big enough word to explain how amazing this work can be.
- 24:01SPEAKER_01: It is truly growth-oriented.
- 24:04SPEAKER_01: And working with Amy has shown me that it can be very spiritual as well.
- 24:12SPEAKER_01: I think sometimes as Christians, we worry that we're doing something that counteracts our spiritual faith.
- 24:21SPEAKER_01: And working with Amy and working with a Christian Enneagram coach has been so powerful and made me just open up my eyes to how God made me in a much, much bigger way than I've ever recognized before.
- 24:37SPEAKER_01: I hope you found this story of mine helpful.
- 24:41SPEAKER_01: Um, a four is just a romantic and a sensitive and emotional person.
- 24:48SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I'm very discontented because I want what other people seem to have, but I have learned how to lean into understanding that about myself, and I have grown so so much.
- 24:59SPEAKER_01: So I hope you're on your journey to growing some more too.
- 25:03SPEAKER_01: God bless you.
- 25:04SPEAKER_00: Fellow four friends, this is Deanna Sudom.
- 25:08SPEAKER_00: You have been chosen by God to reflect his creativity.
- 25:12SPEAKER_00: This manifests in many ways through words and art and how you show up in this world, unlocking its beauty and creator for others to see.
- 25:22SPEAKER_00: As four as I get straight, I sense the boldness in this scripture will speak to the wars that sometimes happen within.
- 25:30SPEAKER_00: It says in James 4, verse 1 to 10 in the message version, where do you think all these appalling wars and quarrels come from?
- 25:39SPEAKER_00: Do you think they just happen?
- 25:40SPEAKER_00: Think again.
- 25:42SPEAKER_00: They come about because you want your own way and fight for it deep inside yourself.
- 25:47SPEAKER_00: You lust for what you don't have and are willing to kill to get it.
- 25:51SPEAKER_00: You want what isn't yours and will risk violence to get your hands on it.
- 25:56SPEAKER_00: And why not?
- 25:57SPEAKER_00: Because you know you'd be asking for what you have no right to.
- 26:41SPEAKER_00: Quit dabbling in sin, purify your inner life, quit playing the field, hit bottom and cry your eyes out.
- 26:48SPEAKER_00: The fun and games are over.
- 26:50SPEAKER_00: Get serious, really serious.
- 26:52SPEAKER_00: Get down on your knees before the master.
- 26:55SPEAKER_00: It's the only way you'll get on your feet.
- 26:59SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Father, that you are the one that helps your creative ones get on their feet.
- 27:04SPEAKER_00: The time in your presence will be the difference maker.
- 27:08SPEAKER_00: Lord, will you shift the longing for things seemingly missing in themselves and trust that you have given them everything they need for life and godliness?
- 27:17SPEAKER_00: Thank you for their ability to sit in the deep with others, experiencing pain and loss.
- 27:23SPEAKER_00: As in Jewish practice, type fours can sit Shiva with people offering their presence instead of answers.
- 27:30SPEAKER_00: Thank you for their empathetic hearts and compassionate generosity.
- 27:35SPEAKER_00: Father, divide and discern where a critical mind turns into a critical spirit and turn the alert into an indicator to bring all things to you, Lord.
- 27:45SPEAKER_00: Remind them when solitude is required to bring balance and stir them to intercession for others to get them out of their heads when they feel stuck.
- 27:55SPEAKER_00: Release them to journal their prayers to you, expressing creatively to their king.
- 28:02SPEAKER_00: Father, remind them that their feelings do not define them, but are merely descriptors to pay attention to, to be able to name it and give it to you so they can move forward.
- 28:14SPEAKER_00: Gratitude breeds contentment for you, type four.
- 28:17SPEAKER_00: Father, help them to create this practice to speak praise and thankfulness to and for you.
- 28:24SPEAKER_00: Lord, thank you that you have knit these ones together in a unique way, and we praise you for that.
- 28:30SPEAKER_00: Let them never forget that you see them for who they are, that you love them for who they are, and that you find value in them as is.
- 28:39SPEAKER_00: Will you build their identity on your truth alone?
- 28:42SPEAKER_00: In Jesus' name I pray.
- 28:44SPEAKER_00: Amen.
- 28:46SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 28:47SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Deanna.
- 28:48SPEAKER_02: That was so good.
- 28:50SPEAKER_02: If you are an Enneagram 4, I hope you truly feel seen, known, and celebrated by this episode.
- 28:56SPEAKER_02: And I'm guessing if you listen because you know it for, they will really appreciate that.
- 29:01SPEAKER_02: That you've taken the time to learn more about how they view the world.
- 29:05SPEAKER_02: And there's so much that you've learned about them today.
- 29:08SPEAKER_02: I'd love for you to share this episode with them and a message about how they add beauty and richness in your life.
- 29:14SPEAKER_02: And most of all, that you love them for just being who they are.
- 29:17SPEAKER_02: So next week, friend, it'll be what you need to know about Enneagram 5.
- 29:23SPEAKER_02: You know what to expect?
- 29:26SPEAKER_02: Good.
- 29:26SPEAKER_02: And if you need to pursue that perspective for best and plan for your whole hearted life.