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Almost Famous In Depth: Serene Russell · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I almost famous in depth,
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  Speaker 1: almost famous listeners. Thank you for being here. It's Ashley
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  Speaker 1: and I have a really fun person I'm interviewing today.
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  Speaker 1: Her name is Serene Russell. She's here. She is also
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  Speaker 1: known as star Bachelor in Paradise season omg? Was it
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  Speaker 1: season eight or season nine? Okay? Thank god? Season nine
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  Speaker 1: is next year, and it's like, how are we here already?
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  Speaker 1: I know it was literally yesterday already. I know. Um okay.
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  Speaker 1: So you were a favorite on Clayton season and you
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  Speaker 1: end up with Brandon, just the sweetest little soul who
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  Speaker 1: got absolutely plum like pummeled, pummeled that's the word, right,
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  Speaker 1: His heart got pummeled by Michelle on her season. And
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  Speaker 1: you guys end up together in Bachelor in Paradise, and
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  Speaker 1: you were together from like day one strong. You were
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  Speaker 1: the idle couple that everybody was hoping to find, hoping
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  Speaker 1: to be did you guys? Were you guys looking for
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  Speaker 1: each other when you got there? Were you both number
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  Speaker 1: one on each other's lists? And if not, you must
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  Speaker 1: spill the beans on who you were looking forward to seeing.
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  Speaker 1: I think I was the most excited about Brandon because
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  Speaker 1: while Clayton season was airing, he was very like vocal
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  Speaker 1: about me. He was very vocal about you being in Paradise,
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  Speaker 1: Like not about me being in Paradise, but like just
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  Speaker 1: him watching like he like live reacted, I guess on
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  Speaker 1: like Instagram and Twitter, and so like anytime I was
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  Speaker 1: like on screen, he would like record something and people
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  Speaker 1: would send it to me, And we weren't even like
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  Speaker 1: following each other, and so I was getting like every
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  Speaker 1: time the show would air, I was like having people
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  Speaker 1: send me his story because he would just like be
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  Speaker 1: like like zooming in on me and stuff on the screen. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so he definitely wanted to in Paradise. You were definitely
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  Speaker 1: his number one pick. Did you want him equally? No,
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  Speaker 1: not at all. I'm kid. Yeah, I was the most
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  Speaker 1: excited about him, and I think it was on your list.
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  Speaker 1: Um coming off of Clayton's season, I was interested in Brandon, Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: and Rodney. Okay, so Brandan, Andrew, and Rodney, all right,
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  Speaker 1: and you got all of them there. So at what
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  Speaker 1: point were you like, I'm not into the other two,
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  Speaker 1: forget them, I'm all in on Brendan. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I think the first day I actually talked to Andrew first.
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  Speaker 1: So Andrew and Brandon were the only guys that talked
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  Speaker 1: to me like the first day at all. So I
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  Speaker 1: got there first, and I was literally there for hours
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  Speaker 1: before a guy came up to me to talk to me.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm really, why do you think that was? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, but like as other girls were arriving, other
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  Speaker 1: girls were like getting pulled to chat and I'm sitting
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  Speaker 1: there like okay, like I'm getting bored. And then I
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  Speaker 1: knew like Brandon was excited to meet me, so I
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  Speaker 1: was like, where's he at? And he ended up not
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  Speaker 1: showing up until like almost the end, Like he was
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  Speaker 1: like one of the last people to get there and
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  Speaker 1: I was the first. And so like I had like
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  Speaker 1: one short conversation with Andrew and then sat around for
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  Speaker 1: a couple more hours before anybody else and then kind
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  Speaker 1: of just started talking to the girls. I started getting like, really,
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  Speaker 1: just hold on. I have a theory here. Those guys
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  Speaker 1: are really tight knit crew. My thought is that they
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  Speaker 1: all knew that Brandon wanted to pursue you, and they
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  Speaker 1: were really trying to respect him and let him have
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  Speaker 1: first DIBs. I mean, I don't know, but I was like,
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  Speaker 1: is there something wrong with me? Like everybody's like talking
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  Speaker 1: to everybody, and I remember saying like I needed someone intentional.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, like I was just
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  Speaker 1: in the last four girls there, and I felt like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was a guessing game as to where
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  Speaker 1: he was at, And like, the next time I meet
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  Speaker 1: someone and I care about someone, it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: someone that just shows me how they're feeling. Like I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to have to ask any questions. I want
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  Speaker 1: to be pursued, like and so saying that and then
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  Speaker 1: going from not being pursued, I mean, we had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Gabby and Rachel's men on the beach, and
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  Speaker 1: they weren't being pursued a lot on their own season
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  Speaker 1: by those same guys. And so the moment Brandon gets
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  Speaker 1: there and it's like, hey, like you like, let's go talk,
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  Speaker 1: that was when it just felt like, Okay, now it's
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  Speaker 1: getting fun. Oh that's adorable. How did you feel about
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  Speaker 1: all the comparisons that people were making about you and Michelle?
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  Speaker 1: People were like, oh, they're both teachers, they sort of
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  Speaker 1: have a similar look and demeanor. Would you how did
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  Speaker 1: you feel about that? And like the fact that people
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  Speaker 1: were like, oh, you know, he didn't end up with Michelle,
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  Speaker 1: so now he's gonna go fine like her, like her
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  Speaker 1: doppleding or of sorts on the beach. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's not it's not an offensive thing. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I got that comparison as soon as I was on
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  Speaker 1: Clayton's season, and honestly, when people I didn't feel that
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  Speaker 1: way at all or see it at all or make
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  Speaker 1: that comparison myself. And then people started to make it.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember being on Clayton's season and being like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened between the two of them,
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  Speaker 1: but like, did they bring me here to like mess
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  Speaker 1: with him? I ended up like asking that. They were like, no,
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  Speaker 1: you guys are completely different people, and so you know
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  Speaker 1: we have like mutual friends and stuff, and I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like a brown people look the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think you guys are definitely very different. Now that
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  Speaker 1: I know you up both a little bit, I wouldn't compare.
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  Speaker 1: I think we we have like different vibes. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I met her one time, but the comparison like never
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  Speaker 1: bothered me. It's like it's to be expected when people
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  Speaker 1: like don't see like everything, you know what I mean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so she and Nate broke up during the filming of Paradise.
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  Speaker 1: Did they come in and tell Brendan this just to
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  Speaker 1: like kind of throw him off? So he ended up
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  Speaker 1: finding out. But it was the week that we that
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  Speaker 1: the girls were at Vedanta that that came out because
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  Speaker 1: it was one of the first things I heard coming
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  Speaker 1: back in. Yeah. I mean I didn't think like anything
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  Speaker 1: of it, Like, I didn't think like anything was going
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  Speaker 1: to happen. When was the moment you knew that you
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  Speaker 1: guys were probably going to get engaged because I thinking
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  Speaker 1: about you coming back from Vendonta and you running down
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  Speaker 1: the stairs and across the beach and jumping into his arms,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of like the moment we
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  Speaker 1: were all like, Okay, yep, this is a cutie couple.
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  Speaker 1: I think. I don't think there was like one big moment.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a bunch of small moments. Like
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  Speaker 1: so there was no like big aha moment. It was
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  Speaker 1: like having the time that we did together, which you
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  Speaker 1: think it's not that much time, but it's like twenty
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  Speaker 1: hours a day, and then getting it's a lot of time,
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  Speaker 1: and then getting separated and like having no idea when
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  Speaker 1: you're coming back or yea many days you've been gone,
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  Speaker 1: You're like, what day of the week is it, Like
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  Speaker 1: when did we leave? Yeah? Is there a rose ceremony?
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  Speaker 1: Like what's happening? You know? And so it just got
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  Speaker 1: like it that made it feel so much worse, like
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  Speaker 1: having no idea when we were coming back, and then
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  Speaker 1: we got back and it felt like we both just
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  Speaker 1: knew that we didn't want to be without each other,
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  Speaker 1: like having to be without each other that week. So
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  Speaker 1: that was like a huge shift. But I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it was like more gradual, like every day like it'd
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh, we'd kind of joke about like oh
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  Speaker 1: this is a ring I want or you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like it just slowly happened slowly in twenty days. But
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you twenty days times twenty hours on a
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  Speaker 1: lot of those days, So you know, there's a reason.
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  Speaker 1: I think we may have honestly gone longer than that too.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was longer than that twenty days. I
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  Speaker 1: kept getting it did have a long season because they
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  Speaker 1: had more airing weeks this season too. We left a
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  Speaker 1: lot later than we originally thought. Yeah, so what was
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  Speaker 1: the moment that you were like, Okay, he's definitely going
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  Speaker 1: to propose for me to me. Did you know walking
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  Speaker 1: down the stairs that he was going to propose that. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: yeah I did. But it was really it was still
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  Speaker 1: nerve wracking. So yeah, especially because you know, he almost
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  Speaker 1: proposed to Michelle, and so it's like, is he freaking
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  Speaker 1: out right now? Like is it part of him that
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  Speaker 1: thinks to be I'm gonna like break his heart because
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  Speaker 1: this is like right across from where it was last time, Like,
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  Speaker 1: oh that's right. It happened in like the same town
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  Speaker 1: in Mexico. Yeah, yeah it was. It was in Mexico,
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  Speaker 1: And so I was like, is he is he good
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  Speaker 1: right now? Like does he think I'm going to do
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  Speaker 1: the same thing? But no, No, it was great. It
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  Speaker 1: was great. I was I've never been like more calm
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  Speaker 1: in my life. It was except for you just said
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  Speaker 1: that you would never been more nervous. That's true, But
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  Speaker 1: I was nervous. I was a little nervous. Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna piece nerves, you know. Yeah, It's like I knew.
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  Speaker 1: I knew, like there's a piece about like Okay, this
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  Speaker 1: is going to happen, But I was still like jittery,
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  Speaker 1: like walking up and excited. How did you feel about
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  Speaker 1: getting engaged to somebody that your family hadn't met, you
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  Speaker 1: know what was weird? And then we tried to face
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  Speaker 1: time them and didn't work. So yeah, and then I
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  Speaker 1: told you it was like later than we thought. Yea,
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  Speaker 1: So my family was like, Okay, where the heck is
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  Speaker 1: she at? Exactly? Yeah, that's nerve wracking for them kind of.
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  Speaker 1: I would always give my family numbers of the producers,
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  Speaker 1: be like, Okay, you guys know that I will be
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  Speaker 1: out of contact, but if there's an emergency, here is
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  Speaker 1: like so so so and so okay, So then you
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  Speaker 1: guys enter the real world. Ship gets real. You have
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  Speaker 1: to move in, you're moving in together, you're adjusting to
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  Speaker 1: a new city. What has been the hardest thing? Be
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  Speaker 1: brutally honest, Like, was there a moment where you're like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it we're gonna make it? Not really,
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  Speaker 1: but I will say like us moving across the country
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  Speaker 1: and doing like a twenty eight hour road trip so
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  Speaker 1: soon into the relationship was not the easiest thing in
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  Speaker 1: the world. What did you learn on the road trip? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: probably annoying things kind of like I mean things out
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  Speaker 1: like Paradise isn't like the Bachelor. You're not just seeing
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  Speaker 1: like this curated version of someone, especially because it's like
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  Speaker 1: hot and you're like cranky and tired. So we'd like
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: seen each other's like not so pretty sides. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. It was just like real sleep deprivation. Like
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  Speaker 1: we're driving up a mountain with this giant U haul
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  Speaker 1: like cooked in his drug it have two cats in
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  Speaker 1: the car. Yeah, and then like moving into like a
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  Speaker 1: one bedroom apartment like I've I've always been like super
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  Speaker 1: independent and like I have two big brothers and so
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  Speaker 1: as the girl, like I always had like in my
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  Speaker 1: own space, and it's like I live with a man now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how did you like figure out the decorating situation? Jared
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  Speaker 1: and I've always had this issue where he wants like
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  Speaker 1: some say and where things go, but it's just all wrong. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: did you where had you compromise on making the space yours? Together? Uh? Well,
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  Speaker 1: we would just we just started fresh for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: and like we tried to come to consensus on like everything,
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  Speaker 1: and we're both very vocal about the things that we
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  Speaker 1: didn't like, so it became easier to figure out. Okay, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he might like this, or Serene might like
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  Speaker 1: that or whatever. But I swear if he had it
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  Speaker 1: his way and he lived alone, he would have like
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  Speaker 1: a leather platform bed on the floor, real bachelor like
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  Speaker 1: super Space age looking everything it's and I'm like, do not, no,
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  Speaker 1: let's not do that. Jared would have a totally navy
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  Speaker 1: blue house, Like all he cares about is decorating with
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  Speaker 1: navy blue. And I'm like, okay, and he'd like have
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: like nautical ships on the wall and stuff. That's so funny. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know. Guys, So have you found any like what
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  Speaker 1: have you found out about each other that makes you
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  Speaker 1: feel that makes you like that you never knew back
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  Speaker 1: during the Paradise days that makes you feel more bonded
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  Speaker 1: to him? And then like situations that you wish that
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  Speaker 1: you knew wall in Paradise. Oh gosh, I know that's
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: kind of a hard question, but like, basically, what is
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  Speaker 1: great about him that you didn't know? And then what
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: do you wish you were warned about before moving in together?
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  Speaker 1: I wish I was warned about all the video games.
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  Speaker 1: Video games so much and sometimes I want to play too,
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  Speaker 1: but he's just like a little a little TV hog
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  Speaker 1: um and then you guys have two TVs. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: need you need one in the bedroom if the case
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  Speaker 1: is that he's hogging the family room one. Oh no, no,
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  Speaker 1: we do have we do TVs. Sometimes I want to
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  Speaker 1: play the PlayStation two. Yeah, Brandon, let her play. Know,
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  Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna teach you. And then he like
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  Speaker 1: plays and he gets sucked in. Yeah, okay, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not um. I think probably just like the little
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  Speaker 1: things like like he it will make like breakfast or
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  Speaker 1: lunch or something, and he'll bring me something like he's
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  Speaker 1: just like thoughtful in that way. Or like if I'm
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  Speaker 1: sick or something, he'll like run up the street to
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  Speaker 1: go get me gatorade. And it's like very nice. It's
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  Speaker 1: like I wouldn't have done that. It's like you just
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  Speaker 1: walked to seven eleven to get me gatorade? Like how sweet. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's a helpful boy. You recently had an engagement photo
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  Speaker 1: shoot with Susie behind the lens No, no, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: where did I get mixed up with that? I don't know. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: Susie just did someone's engagement like video she did Ivan's
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  Speaker 1: Oh Okay, she did ivans. Yeah, but we did have
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  Speaker 1: a shoe. It was a friend of Katie Thurston's. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so she was really cool as a beautiful house and
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  Speaker 1: we just wanted to do something like cozy and understated
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  Speaker 1: that felt like more homye, and that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: the goal. But it was it was fun. It was
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  Speaker 1: our first one, your first engagement. Shoot. So does that
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  Speaker 1: mean that wedding planning is in the midst or are
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  Speaker 1: you guys still kind of relaxing? You said that you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to get married in twenty twenty four. Is that
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  Speaker 1: still a plan? It snuck up on us and we
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: haven't even started wedding planning, you know. So yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's it's stressful and like we have so many
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  Speaker 1: conversations about it, but like we still haven't figured out
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  Speaker 1: like what we would want to do, like where we
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: would want to do it, like how many people. But
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  Speaker 1: then we started thinking and we're like, okay, like we
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: moved in together super fast, Like we have time, like
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  Speaker 1: we have the rest of our lives to figure out
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  Speaker 1: when we want to get married. You know, one thousand percent,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to stake to the plan that you
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  Speaker 1: started when you first got off the show. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: and it sounded at the time like it was two
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  Speaker 1: years away, but it was not. You know, yeah, you're right,
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  Speaker 1: it was not. It was not. Yeah, it was a
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  Speaker 1: year and a half away. Yeah, like whatever you make it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, de time. Yeah, the time. We were hidden
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  Speaker 1: for such a longer time than normal too, that it
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  Speaker 1: was like we were hidden for a long time. It
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  Speaker 1: was like the first week of November, we got engaged
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  Speaker 1: in life first and we were not out until like
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  Speaker 1: right before Thanksgiving. Whoa that is That's like the longest
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  Speaker 1: hiding period that like anybody's ever had. It was very long,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: and I felt like it kept it did get pushed back,
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  Speaker 1: like with the show, like when the schedule came out
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  Speaker 1: and we didn't know and we were like, oh, another
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  Speaker 1: week or two. Yeah, it was hard. What was the
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: what was the challenge in that? Did you move in
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  Speaker 1: together while still being in hiding? Yeah, because we just
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: couldn't wait anymore, Like it became like too difficult, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, it did. I don't know, I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: how much it got extended, but it got extended after
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  Speaker 1: it was already airing, and we were just like, we
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: don't want to wait. No, that's too long for you
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: guys to not be able to do regular couple things. Yeah. No,
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  Speaker 1: that was the toughest part. So it's like we lost
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  Speaker 1: that time. You do you feel like that was like
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  Speaker 1: a challenging point in your relationship. Oh, absolutely, Like we
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  Speaker 1: were not expecting to have to wait that long. And
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  Speaker 1: then there's the pressure of like, Okay, we want to
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  Speaker 1: go do normal things, like does anybody even really care?
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  Speaker 1: Like are we gonna get caught if we do anything?
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  Speaker 1: But I'm such a rule followers, like my anxiety could ever,
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  Speaker 1: So you never did like the whole dress up thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think I like wore a wig out like one time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And when I wore the wig out, he got recognized,
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  Speaker 1: but I didn't. I wasn't like next to him. I
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: was like at a distance and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're never doing that again. Yeah, that is a little
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  Speaker 1: bit nerve racketed with someone else from another TV show,
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  Speaker 1: like what were the odds? What? What are the odds?
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  Speaker 1: But it's like a guy from like Love on the
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  Speaker 1: Spectrum or something. It was like Brandon, like, I recognize you,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: but we were just like having a little like beach
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  Speaker 1: moment and he was far far away from me and
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I just like ran into the abyss. Do you do
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you guys? Where do you see yourself in five years
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: together as a couple or as a family. Oh, we
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: want to own a house. And that's part of like
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  Speaker 1: the wedding planing thing is like we're like what do
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  Speaker 1: we do first? Because we already lived together and it's
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: like so expensive to pay rent. Like what do you
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  Speaker 1: say for do you save for a house or do
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: you save for like the wedding or you know, but
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I mean we both want kids to Okay, so do
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: you see kids in the next five years? Yeah? Okay,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: how many do you want? I would want at least three.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I think at least three. You should definitely wait, do
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you have one to say that? I know? I think
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I used to be on the I could have three train,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and now I am fully on the only two train. Yeah. Yeah,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: it depends on what you get. It depends on how
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: easy or difficult your kids are. Yeah, all right, Well,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: before we wrap up, I want to know, what is
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: one thing you want to tell the future Bachelor in
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Paradise cast that you wish you knew going into the season.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: So think let's let's imagine to put it out there.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: You and I were talking about on the recap show,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the finale recap show, that we want to have Gabby
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: there as like Princess of Paradise gets her pick of
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: all the guys. What are you going to tell Gabby
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and the other people getting hit in that first sand
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: as your generation likes to call it. Oh, I don't know.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Just like two things, one deeper thing and one less
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: deep thing. Okay, the deeper thing, keep an open mind
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: or you will lose your mind if anything can happen there,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: anything can happen to be like prepared for anything and
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: just kind of like go with the flow. But the
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: less serious thing that is honestly more serious. Bring a fan. Yep,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: bring a fan. They say they're for your bed, they're not. Yes, yeah,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I agree, but the fan bed is crucial. I didn't
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: have to bring one. It'll make all the difference in
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the world. It really does. It feels nice if like
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: sleeping is really nice. So if you have a nice
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: fan there, I would say for me back in the day,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I always used to tell girls to bring a makeup
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: mirror with lights because the lighting is awful. You can
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: never find good lighting. But now they have the girls
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: room all set up for you guys, like you have
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: vanities with lights and all that. Yeah, you're right though,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: that's a good point because Victoria and I both had
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: like the same little mirror, and we would just get ready,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: like in the living space upstairs, and we didn't see
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: on anyone. Isn't that nice to kind of have like
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: your own little area, to own little as an escape,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to have your alone moment when you're doing your makeup. Yes,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and that room gets so hot with all like the
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: hot tools. Oh my gosh. Yes, I didn't use like
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a hot tool on my hair the entire time I
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: was a participant in Paradise too much. It was too much.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: That's where I drew the line, all right. Well, Serene,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me for this episode
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and for the recap of the finale episode. If you
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: guys didn't listen to that, go back listen to it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Sirry and I break it down for an hour on
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: all the juiciness that was Zax finale. Serry and I
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: hope to see you and Brandon soon and see more
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: cuteness of the two of you on Instagram. I hope
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that you're doing the best and let's see you next time.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. Thank you all right,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: until next time. I've been Ashley, I've been Serene. You
• 21:57
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• 22:01
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