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A Kid Goes Down and Nobody's Ready | Why Sports Tournaments Need Medical Staff | Episode 528 · Voices for Voices®

• 0:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Hi everyone, it's Justin here, Voices for Voices.
• 0:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you so much for joining us.
• 0:06
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• 0:12
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• 0:28
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• 0:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, we do have a huge goal of reaching and helping three billion people.
• 1:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's billion with a B.
• 1:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh big our big goal is to help reach three billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond.
• 1:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And the only reason why we have a show is because of you.
• 1:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for allowing us to uh continue having your confidence in filming and dropping these episodes, which we think are oh so important.
• 1:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: A couple a couple of things wanted to really address uh mental health and sports, and I'm going to use baseball.
• 2:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, children growing up, you know, from t ball the all the way up till their high school years and and maybe beyond.
• 2:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And the mental health, the mental toll the game can take on players, coaches, even attendees that are there to watch watch the game.
• 2:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so there was a scenario that happened just the other day, and I'm gonna share it and then talk about it.
• 2:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh my nephew's ball game and first batter on the other team came up the bat, as they do.
• 3:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And the pitcher, the ball got away from him, ended up hitting the young man in his uh guess upper back close to the neck area, and where the game was at was a huge complex.
• 3:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There were lots, hi Lucy, there were lots of fields, there's lots of things going on, but they didn't have a medical tent, they didn't have support medically that if something were to happen.
• 3:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, this was a huge complex.
• 3:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Say hi Lucy, come on TV.
• 3:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah.
• 4:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um so no medical tent, no medical attention, nobody on call, nobody.
• 4:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I've seen and maybe this is just, you know, the nature of football.
• 4:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, if this is a football game, more than likely, more than likely there would be a medical personnel at the game in case that somebody got hurt.
• 4:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They needed to call the ambulance, the squad.
• 4:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And there was none of that at the at the ball game.
• 4:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: At these, I mean, this complex was huge.
• 4:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I there was at least eight different ball fields.
• 4:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh it was just a huge, huge play.
• 4:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So he gets hit, he gets hit, he gets really dizzy or lightheaded, I'm assuming.
• 5:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And you know, the parents, you know, we we come to find out that again, there's no medical attention available at this at this tournament game.
• 5:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Let's see, we're gonna go over here for now, okay?
• 5:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you.
• 5:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so parents called the 911.
• 5:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Ambulance comes, ends up, you know, stabilizing his neck with a neck brace, put young man on the stretcher, take him to the hospital for evaluation and running tests.
• 6:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Got emotional, like really emotional, when once the game started up again.
• 6:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And and so the umpires called the game, said that you know, the game's over, you know, this uh you know, seeing you know what had occurred that the pitcher was having a very emotional time, which I probably would too.
• 6:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, because he didn't do it on purpose, he didn't that it was not done on purpose at all, and and so the mental health of my nephew's team, you know, I mean everybody's watching this here in real time, watching watching a player for the other team with the ambulance there, lights and everything, and and uh like I said, taking taking um to the hospital for further evaluation.
• 7:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I can't imagine what the mental health of the other I'm saying the other team because I I'll say my nephew's team, so you'll know the difference.
• 7:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So the other team, I can't imagine what they're thinking and going through because it's their their friend, their teammate, everything.
• 7:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Not to mention they're still kids.
• 8:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And even adults, you know, getting emotional.
• 8:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so we gotta we we gotta we gotta think about that.
• 8:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um yeah, we have to we have to think about that.
• 8:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I don't know if there needs to be, you know, mental health professional there at a tournament, at a game, and I know people are like, well, it's gonna cost extra money and all these things.
• 8:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, this is life, folks.
• 8:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: This is like we get one shot at this, that's it.
• 8:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so if somebody needs assistance like that, it needs to be there.
• 9:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If you were like, well, you know, it's one in a million or one in a thousand chances, it doesn't matter again.
• 9:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I revert you or refer you to football games, high school games, middle school games, football.
• 9:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Here's Lucy again.
• 9:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um there's medical stuff right there.
• 9:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So why can't we do it for a baseball game?
• 9:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay, Lucy, Betty, we're doing this.
• 9:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so I I've done at least one show on this topic of, and I think it was a cheerleading competition last year where there were like over a hundred cheerleaders, and it was a warm day, somebody could have got sick, somebody could have got hurt, you know, when they're throwing up in the air and they're doing flips and twists and turns, they catch them.
• 10:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, what what if they what if they miss them?
• 10:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Not on purpose, but but maybe they do.
• 10:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know.
• 10:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so that's that's what drew me to do that episode.
• 10:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because the medical and mental health is you know, it's important one way, but not the other.
• 11:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's okay, it's good for football, but it's not for cheerleading, and it's not for you know, huge tournaments and a huge sporting complex.
• 11:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, I don't even think they had ice to put on the poor kid's neck.
• 11:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, so we're talking, you know, the mental health is huge.
• 11:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's trauma.
• 11:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Justin, well, it's not a thing, you know, they're not out in the war, like it doesn't matter.
• 11:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's still trauma, it's still PTSD seeing some person, teammate be injured, not just from the other team and their fans, their parents and loved ones, but the umpires, my nephew's team, nephews, coaches, our supporters.
• 12:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, at that point, it becomes, you know, life over sport, and then the mental health for the pitcher on my nephew's team, who was just so emotional, and he was you know by crying and being being upset because he didn't mean to do he didn't mean to hit the batter.
• 13:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You might say, oh well, maybe they're you know, there's bad blood between these are kids.
• 13:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And there's nothing of the sort, it was the first batter of the game.
• 13:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So nothing had even nothing had even happened.
• 13:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It was the first batter of the game, so it wasn't like you know, from what I understand, you know, years ago, you know, baseball teams sometimes if a team a player hit a home run, the next time comes the bat, maybe the pitcher throws at his ankle, or um and then the other team, when it's the other teams turn to take the field, then they both try to hit a batter, not in the head, not not trying to thoroughly injure, but just it's just something that you has happened in in the past.
• 14:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But this is this had nothing to do with what occurred, and so the trauma in that of not only the other team, but my nephew's team, uh, that's trauma.
• 14:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's trauma, everybody.
• 14:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: When you see something, it's out of the ordinary, somebody gets hurt, you know, it was a championship game for the tournament.
• 14:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: The winner was gonna get you know the the first place trophy, and the other team was gonna get the second place trophy.
• 15:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we just need to think as a society what or how how we can do better.
• 15:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, this complex had one of the nicest concession stands I've seen for, you know, a kid say little league or you know little league tournaments, and there were there were softball tournaments going on as well.
• 16:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like I said, there are a lot of fields, a lot of games going on, and some people could go to the concession stand and get something to eat, something to drink, yet they couldn't get ice for the poor kid until the ambulance, the squad came and it was hard hard to really watch.
• 16:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so when we think that other events like that happen, you know, if somebody's in somebody just needs help.
• 17:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's traumatic if that person doesn't want help or doesn't want doesn't want it.
• 17:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's traumatic for everybody.
• 17:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's not just if there are children, but for the adults as well.
• 17:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's like we we support you.
• 17:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We just want you to get help.
• 17:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so this ball game.
• 17:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I would hope that any future games, the protocol would include medical staff available.
• 18:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They can assess the situation.
• 18:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean they had golf carts are driving all around.
• 18:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So get one for the medical people.
• 18:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Let them assess the situation and let them be the ones in contact with this batch for the emergency squad to come.
• 18:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Shouldn't be letting that up to the family because they're in shock too.
• 18:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Of how long is it gonna take for them to come?
• 18:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: When are they gonna be here?
• 18:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I just saw my son or my daughter.
• 19:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we have to think about that.
• 19:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's like at school.
• 19:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, there needs to be medical people, there needs to be mental health help on a daily basis, not one of these rotating ones where okay, well, every Monday they'll be there.
• 19:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like if you want to build your huge new school for millions of dollars, and you want to add that tax in the form of a levy, yet you you don't want to hire a full-time mental health professional for all the schools.
• 20:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Not just one of them, but all of them.
• 20:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Cause the sooner that mental health professional is able to help an individual or individuals.
• 20:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just guessing, I don't know.
• 20:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm guessing that outcomes may be a little bit better in that respect.
• 21:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Again, I don't know.
• 21:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Just seems like it would be.
• 21:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Just like the sooner there's medical attention, then they're able to assess the situation, help where they can, and where they can't, they have a direct line to reach out to 911 here in the United States.
• 21:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we gotta think about that.
• 21:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Anybody has children out there, a child or multiple children.
• 21:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, kids are growing up faster and faster these days.
• 21:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We all know that.
• 22:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They're still kids, and their brains are still growing from the back to the front.
• 22:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So while you can have a decent level conversation with them, there's still a difference.
• 22:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like I am thirty-seven years older than my child, her child.
• 22:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So when she wants something, or you know, wants the reason and bargain.
• 23:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You're still a child.
• 23:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's good that you're asking, thank you.
• 23:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But we shouldn't be letting a seven, six, eight-year-old tell us what to do.
• 23:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Nor should we be on a first name basis.
• 23:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Number one.
• 23:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Number two, it's just proper to what it would handle it.
• 23:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so that falls on to the parents.
• 23:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: The parents aren't gonna police the police that they're gonna keep doing it.
• 24:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And what eight-year-old needs an iPhone and a iWatch?
• 24:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Tell me.
• 24:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'd love to I'd love to hear why an eight-year-old or seven or nine needs an iWatch, an Apple, and I'm not promoting them.
• 24:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It'd be nice.
• 24:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So Tim Cook, you can reach out.
• 24:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You can definitely have you as a supporter, sponsor, voices for voices.
• 24:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because once one thing happens, then you get about ten things down the road, and then you can't turn around because then it becomes the child saying, Well, you let me do this, and we do that, and we do this, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that.
• 25:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That parent is gonna have a hard time reeling that reeling those non-rules in.
• 25:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So don't call me by my first name if you're a kid.
• 25:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's either Mr., Miss, or Mrs.
• 25:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Followed by their last name.
• 26:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Some people say, Well, that's just somebody being forward and being polite or whatever.
• 26:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I say, well, what what do they what do they call their teacher?
• 26:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: What are teachers' names, Ryan?
• 26:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Of the kids going, Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, Ryan.
• 26:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: H.
• 26:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: E.
• 26:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Double Hockey Sticks, no.
• 26:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's Mr.
• 26:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Last Name.
• 26:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Just like when there's other adults.
• 27:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because if we don't if if if we don't step in and step up to do it, nobody else will.
• 27:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because the other parents of this hypothetical kid aren't policing it.
• 27:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They're not setting boundaries and rules.
• 27:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like I just mentioned.
• 27:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Eight-year-old has an Apple Watch and a phone.
• 27:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Hello, we're trying to reduce screens in front of kids and even adults.
• 28:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so we're starting at eight years old down that path.
• 28:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But hey, what do I know?
• 28:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just a dad.
• 28:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just a dad.
• 28:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I get relegated as the dad, the dad that doesn't know anything.
• 28:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay.
• 28:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's cool.
• 28:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I can't change how people think.
• 28:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: People are gonna judge, they're gonna gossip.
• 28:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's just what people do.
• 28:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They shouldn't, but that's what people do.
• 29:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we cover quite a lot here in this uh this episode.
• 29:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um thank you for joining us again.
• 29:11
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• 29:50
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• 30:20
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• 30:27
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• 31:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We'll see you next time, everybody.
• 31:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Bye bye.