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Red Sox-Yankees series preview + A Mets’d Up Season w/James Schiano · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Half corner time. Let's tittle Yankee Stadium Tuesday, Wednesday and
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Speaker 1: maybe Thursday. Red Sox Yankees first round. That's good.
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Speaker 2: Love it. This is what it's all about. People are like, oh,
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Speaker 2: I hate they expanded playoffs. When you get matchups like this,
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Speaker 2: bring it all people, because you know what, it's great
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Speaker 2: for baseball and the whole world was gonna be tuned
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Speaker 2: to everyone's so oh, Yankees and Red Sox are on
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Speaker 2: TV too much. You know why because people tune in
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Speaker 2: to watch.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun and there's a lot of star
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Speaker 1: power here. Garrett Crochet against Max Freed Game one.
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Speaker 3: That's good.
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Speaker 1: Yankees playing sizzling hot right now, Kratz Red Sox get
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Speaker 1: in obviously the narrative, you know, they trade devers. I
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Speaker 1: was critical of it, as were many others. They don't
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Speaker 1: have Rome and Anthony, but they're gonna step in with
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Speaker 1: I think, well, I guess it's close, but no, Crochet
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Speaker 1: is a better. Cruche is better than Freed, right if
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Speaker 1: you have to rent power rank those two?
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, so.
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Speaker 1: They've got the best starter going here. BeO is gonna
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Speaker 1: go in game two for them, and Boone made some announcements.
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Speaker 1: I'm just scrolling back up here. Cam Schlitteritter would start
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Speaker 1: game three if there is once you got Freed and
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Speaker 1: rodin for games one and two, Austin Wells behind the
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Speaker 1: plate for game one that needs Ben Rice probably on
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Speaker 1: the bench, Goaldie at first, and then you can bring
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Speaker 1: in Rice at some point, and then Amed Rosario might
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Speaker 1: get a little light second instead of Jazz for sure,
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Speaker 1: because it's because of his numbers against Crochet.
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Speaker 2: He was like six for eight against Crochet finding a
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Speaker 2: way into a playoff game, and guess was the hottest
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Speaker 2: right now? Playoff Gean, Carlos Stanton, Mike Stanton, whatever you
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Speaker 2: want to call him. This dude is scorching right now.
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Speaker 2: I get it. He was hitting fingers against the Orioles,
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Speaker 2: but he is he shows up in the playoffs. I
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Speaker 2: don't think there's a bigger hitter in either lineup of
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Speaker 2: this series, and I get it. Alex Bregman has been
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Speaker 2: one of the best postseason players in this this pool
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Speaker 2: of generation of players because he's always been in it
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Speaker 2: and his numbers. He has a ridiculous amount of numbers
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Speaker 2: in the postseason. But g can single handedly take over
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Speaker 2: a series where you look at a Crochet Freed matchup,
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Speaker 2: three runs might win the game, and g has been
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Speaker 2: that guy in the playoffs. But more importantly, this last
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Speaker 2: week of the.
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Speaker 1: Season, where do you think the edges are for me?
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Speaker 1: I think starting pitching is close. Red Sox bullpen advantage, Yankees' lineup.
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Speaker 2: Advantage, yeah, yeah, And they're playing a Yankee stadium, which
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Speaker 2: will help. No squirre will come up with something that
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Speaker 2: will help them try to win. Yeah. I think the
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Speaker 2: fact they're playing in Yankee Stadium is gonna be huge.
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Speaker 2: The Red Sox have to win Game one that they
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Speaker 2: just Crochet owns Judge. He's got like one hit offf
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Speaker 2: of him in his career. I think as much as
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Speaker 2: we think that the Tigers have to win Game one
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Speaker 2: against the Guardians, I firmly believe the Red Sox have
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Speaker 2: to win. When Crochet bitches, did you say dinger? Krats,
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Speaker 2: that was the one hit he's got?
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Speaker 1: Oh one dinger?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think he hit two dingers against him. We
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Speaker 2: had the one in eight innings.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, that's just so Judge had another ridiculous season. Krats,
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Speaker 1: your former teammate is up for an MVP. He's gonna
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Speaker 1: get first or second, ridiculous historic season again, but last
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Speaker 1: year in the playoffs he had some really rough moments.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that we get more of the regular
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Speaker 1: season judge or the October judge here?
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Speaker 2: I think regular season judge. I think if you go
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Speaker 2: back to some of his numbers that he's amassed in
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Speaker 2: the postseason, they're not as bad as they are recently.
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Speaker 2: So does that mean you don't care? To me? I
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Speaker 2: don't think he he's unaware of how bad he's done
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Speaker 2: recently in the playoffs. But I think you have a
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Speaker 2: shorter memory. You have a longer memory in like, dude,
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Speaker 2: I should win the MVP. My ops plus is over
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Speaker 2: two ten if I know what that was. As a player,
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Speaker 2: he is not. He's feeling the same pressure as anybody
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Speaker 2: else on this roster. No, not true, he feels more pressure.
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Speaker 2: He might not say it, but he absolutely has to.
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Speaker 2: He's the guy. He's the guy that in New York
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Speaker 2: stars need to shine, and he hasn't shined in the
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Speaker 2: big moments. He hasn't. I'm sorry. I love Aaron Judge.
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Speaker 2: I think he's unbelievable. He's an unbelievable player, but in
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Speaker 2: the big, bright moments, he has not shined the way
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Speaker 2: that they need him to Game five of the World
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Speaker 2: Series last year, he dropped the fla ball that led
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Speaker 2: to all hell breaking this first air of the season
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Speaker 2: at the worst time possible. What do they remember in
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Speaker 2: New York? Ask anybody that played there. They remember how
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Speaker 2: you did in the postseason. They don't give a crap
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Speaker 2: about how you do in the radio season. I would
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Speaker 2: agreeing what.
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Speaker 1: To do with him or how they pitch him with
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Speaker 1: better pitching in the postseason, do you think that's a
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Speaker 1: factor at all?
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Speaker 2: Or now he hits he hits good pitching too. He's
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Speaker 2: sitting two, he's hit got two of He's hitting two
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Speaker 2: o five in the postseason in his career. What about
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Speaker 2: the career in his career, do you have that on
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Speaker 2: base and he's got sixteen homers, You have got two
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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty at bats his first three seasons in
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Speaker 2: the postseason he hit way better than that. Seventy eighteen
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Speaker 2: nineteen twenty. He was not healthy. He came back after
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Speaker 2: being hurt twenty one, was quick. His obp is three eighteen,
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Speaker 2: his ops is seven sixty eight. He had He's had
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Speaker 2: one great postseason. It was twenty eighteen in nineteen at
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Speaker 2: bats four twenty one, fourteen hundred ops. Other than that,
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Speaker 2: it's eight sixteen, seven forty three, six sixty two, five
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Speaker 2: hundred four to ninety and last year was seven fifty two.
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Speaker 2: So his ops is seven sixty eight with a two
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Speaker 2: O five, which is solid.
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Speaker 1: But not for him, not for him, not for him
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Speaker 1: when he's yes guy, for his career exactly.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, like that's that's I mean, I love
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Speaker 2: Aaron Judge's death, but this is what people look at. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: yescially again, Dodgers Dan Playton Kershall. They're not do they not?
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Speaker 2: Do they not throw him in the postseason? They're not
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Speaker 2: getting he's not in the wild card. I get it,
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Speaker 2: he's not one of the three starters.
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Speaker 1: What's your point?
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Speaker 2: Now, what's the point here? They're both elite players, their
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Speaker 2: numbers in the postseason may not may not match up.
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Speaker 2: Kershall's got a four and a half ERA in one
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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety four innings. Does that mean does that
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Speaker 2: mean you don't think he's gonna perform? To me, I
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Speaker 2: think Judge will perform in the playoffs? Has he not? Yes?
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Speaker 2: To me? Je said he didn't think. We didn't think
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Speaker 2: he's gonna be good to perform. No One said no one.
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Speaker 2: I just said he needs to perform. Nobody said, we
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Speaker 2: don't think he's not. I'm just given the numbers, he
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Speaker 2: hasn't performed up to the level. Kirshy has two rings,
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Speaker 2: Judge has zero. That's the way Yankee fans judge their
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Speaker 2: their their players. Why do they love Derek Jeter? How
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Speaker 2: many rings does Derek Jeter have? What? Five? Oh? Sorry, five?
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Speaker 2: You're right? Nine two five? But also, that's why they
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Speaker 2: love Derek Jeter. That's why they love the Core four.
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Speaker 2: That's why they love were A Pisada. That's why the
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Speaker 2: guys that win the ring. That's why I love Nick
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Speaker 2: Swisher because he won the ring in two thousand and nine.
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Speaker 2: That's why Yankee fans judge their stars on how many
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Speaker 2: rings did you win? Yogi Barrow won? What? Ten? Nine
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Speaker 2: or ten rings? That's what the Yankees judge are people on,
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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter regular season's cool. How many rings do
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Speaker 2: you have? And right now, Judge unfortunately has zero, even
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Speaker 2: though he's been the best player in the game since
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Speaker 2: he's got to the big leagues. Asked me if I
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Speaker 2: thought he was gonna be regular season judge or postseason judge.
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Speaker 2: In my opinion is he's going to be. He's gonna
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Speaker 2: be regular season judge. I can't, I can't not. I
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Speaker 2: I will put I will put my stake in the
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Speaker 2: ground on that. I think he will be that guy.
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Speaker 2: Do you I hope he is. I don't know. I'm
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Speaker 2: just gonna I hope he is because I love Aaron
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Speaker 2: Judge and I think he's so fun to watch.
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Speaker 1: Right now, if we're going off track round, I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: Stanton is the guy who lives up to those moments.
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Speaker 2: He is the guy ellingers had big moments in the postseason.
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Speaker 2: Volpi's had huge moments in the post. He looks like
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Speaker 2: you can't throw it right now. The throw he made
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Speaker 2: yesterday it was like three hops that his shoulders, his
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Speaker 2: shoulders crushed. I mean, you can't play him. You can't
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Speaker 2: have that. You have to in coffy ero. But I'm
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Speaker 2: just saying I don't know, Listen, I'm just saying Judge
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Speaker 2: needs to Judge needs to have that moment and it
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Speaker 2: needs to happen against the Red Sox.
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Speaker 1: Early big homer last year against Class A. I get it,
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Speaker 1: but he had tons of opportunities. Last year, John Carlos
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Speaker 1: Stanton was married the team in October.
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Speaker 2: He was insane.
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Speaker 1: He was so fun to watch.
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Speaker 2: How do you know play? I know, I know Austin
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Speaker 2: Walls is catching, but you can't find him play away.
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Speaker 2: To get Ben Rice in the lineup somewhere they will later, right,
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Speaker 2: I mean I him in there. I needed him in
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Speaker 2: there as much as I can get him in there.
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Speaker 1: He's gonna go in late against righties, yeah, I know,
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Speaker 1: and then he'll play Game two.
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Speaker 2: Did he play third for McMahon, I'd be goldtimate played
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Speaker 2: third for mcmon. I mean, you can't think about think
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Speaker 2: about what they could have here. Crochet's gone seven and
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Speaker 2: eight innings against the Red Sox. If he goes seven,
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Speaker 2: you can't bring bent Ben Rice in because eventually they're
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Speaker 2: gonna bring Eroaldis in and then he's got to go left,
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Speaker 2: all left against Eroaldis Chapman, the best reliever in baseball
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Speaker 2: this year, they gotta get Krushe as a That's it again.
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Speaker 2: As much as we say Scooball needs to win HM
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Speaker 2: Garrick Coche needs to win Game one though, those are
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Speaker 2: the two big one Hunter Green. If the Reds are
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Speaker 2: gonna have any chance Hunter Green's gotta win Game one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about top ten starters in the sport.
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Speaker 1: Those guys are top ten starters.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we've talked about the like sexy part of this game.
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Speaker 2: One thing we haven't brought up that both teams absolutely
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Speaker 2: suck at fielding. Neither of these teams can field. Trevor's
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Speaker 2: story has five airs in the last eight games, and
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Speaker 2: it was like five of six games. Talking about maybe
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Speaker 2: he's a little tired. Maybe they have their best second
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Speaker 2: placement playing gold glove center field, and oh, don't forget
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Speaker 2: their worst fielding the Red Sox away from Boston where
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Speaker 2: you can kind of mitigate some things because you can
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Speaker 2: play shallower or the wall comes into play, all that stuff. Like,
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Speaker 2: are we gonna see like some balls kicked around here
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Speaker 2: in this series that costs one of the teams to
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Speaker 2: go home?
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Speaker 3: Yes, more likely, Yes, really even.
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Speaker 2: Hit on that, I think, which is gonna be an
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Speaker 2: awesome series too. The Cubs and the we will we'll
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Speaker 2: get to it. We'll get to it. Can That's a
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Speaker 2: very another interesting one, especially with Kate Horton going down.
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Speaker 1: We will we will last thing real quick on this
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Speaker 1: Red Sox of went nine and four the season against
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Speaker 1: the Yankees five and two at Yankee Stadium. When you
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Speaker 1: what the heck happened to the Mets and their second
12:47
Speaker 1: highest payroll in baseball this year?
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Speaker 3: I mean, your guys, guess this goes mind. You saw
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Speaker 3: this happen. It wasn't really a collapse, was more just
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Speaker 3: watching them bleed out for three months. The pitching wasn't
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Speaker 3: good enough. There wasn't enough consistent and see in the top,
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Speaker 3: middle or back of the rotation. Situational hitting was bad
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Speaker 3: for a while, it got pretty good, and this weekend
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Speaker 3: I would say it was poor again. The bullpen completely
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Speaker 3: fell apart one that we thought it should have been
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Speaker 3: one of the better bullpens in baseball after the trade deadline,
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Speaker 3: was more like one of the worst bullpens in baseball.
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Speaker 3: Every single thing went wrong. David Stearns, Carls Mendoza, all
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Speaker 3: of the players, all forty seven pitchers that made an
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Speaker 3: appearance this season, every single person involved with this deserves
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Speaker 3: at least a portion of this blame. It's so hard
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Speaker 3: to even fine tune and point to some specific thing
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Speaker 3: because it was such an overarching disaster.
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Speaker 2: You're the day after the season's over. There was a
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Speaker 2: chance that they could have gotten in yesterday with just
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Speaker 2: one victory. Yeah, Is it hard to imagine this team
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Speaker 2: actually in the playoffs? Or was it, oh man, remember
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Speaker 2: what we did last year that was so amazing. We
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Speaker 2: tripped into the playoffs on the last day against the
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Speaker 2: Braves too, We're going to go on an epic run.
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Speaker 2: Or was there definitely the disbelief that this was just
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Speaker 2: not a good team.
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Speaker 3: I think that that belief of last year kind of
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Speaker 3: worked against them because you listen to the way these
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Speaker 3: guys spoke after all of their games, and those are
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Speaker 3: the players. Even Brandon Nemo's availability after the season. It
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Speaker 3: was kind of just like waiting for a switch to flip.
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Speaker 3: You can't really wait for a switch to flip. You
14:15
Speaker 3: have to flip a switch. And I think that there
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Speaker 3: was a bit of arresting on Laurels of a team
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Speaker 3: that we know how much talents in this room, we
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Speaker 3: know how good we are and can be. We know
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Speaker 3: we just did this last year. What the Mets did
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Speaker 3: last year was I don't even know. It's like a
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Speaker 3: dream like sequence, over and over and over again, like
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Speaker 3: herculean performances from star players out of sometimes the clear
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Speaker 3: blue sky and you waiting for that. That's not sustainable
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Speaker 3: process to win baseball games. I remember listening to you
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Speaker 3: guys a lot last year being critical of the gimmicky Mets,
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Speaker 3: being like, how can you sustain this kind of motivation
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Speaker 3: mentality when it's all built on gimmicks. At the time,
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Speaker 3: I was a little bit critical of that, didn't really
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Speaker 3: understand what you meant. But now watching this season and
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Speaker 3: seeing their lack of ability to find that internal motivation,
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Speaker 3: I very much understand when you meant. Really did again
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Speaker 3: work against them this season?
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, where do we start with? What went wrong?
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Speaker 2: I mean the pitching obviously, but the hitting didn't hit.
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Speaker 2: They got shut out yesterday. They got shut out. Okay,
15:12
Speaker 2: and I know, you know some Perez is good and
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Speaker 2: the Marlins are good, and it's a big ballpark. But
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Speaker 2: they got shut out. Maybe they needed Grimace? Where was Grimace?
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Speaker 2: Where was omg? Where was the pump? Where were all
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Speaker 2: these things they had? They had none of them? This year,
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Speaker 2: they just were like going through the motions. So I mean,
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Speaker 2: I don't want to they weren't going through the motion
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Speaker 2: because obviously they.
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Speaker 3: Care, they're working hard. Yeah, but what what did they need?
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Speaker 2: Did they need someone to come in from the outside
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Speaker 2: and provide that spark, because I feel like Carlos Mendoza
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Speaker 2: does a great job trying to lead them and put
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Speaker 2: them He stays very even Keel. They tried Bucks show Walter,
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Speaker 2: that didn't work, they went to Mendy. Where do they
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Speaker 2: go next? Especially if Alonzo and Edwin Diaz are out
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Speaker 2: the door.
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Speaker 3: I mean maybe even Keel isn't what this team needed.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they needed some kind of raw rale, like some
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Speaker 3: kind of activity, some kind of energy. And also I
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Speaker 3: think it's a difference of going from a team that
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Speaker 3: last year had no expectations on them after the way
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Speaker 3: they began the season, so this year entering with all
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Speaker 3: the expectations on yourself. It's the try, the true difference
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Speaker 3: in sports forever, going from being a hunter to the
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Speaker 3: hunt it. And I think that when that target got
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Speaker 3: put on the Mets backs, I don't think they knew
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Speaker 3: how to really aptly respond to it. And even these
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Speaker 3: must win games over the weekend. Friday night especially amazing
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Speaker 3: looking back at this Marlin series. The Marlins only scored
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Speaker 3: runs in two individual innings and won the series to
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Speaker 3: the one. And if you can move one more game
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Speaker 3: as the Mets, you will the playoffs. We're not having
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Speaker 3: these conversations now. We might have these conversations in three
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Speaker 3: days because the roster and the team were still flawed.
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Speaker 3: You probably would have gotten just crushed by the Dodgers.
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Speaker 3: But who knows, three game series, anything can happened in baseball.
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Speaker 3: But the mental mistakes of Ryan Riso not covering a
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Speaker 3: base on Friday, Carls Fondoza bringing Greg Russolo to face
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Speaker 3: the flu of right handed bathers, then Sunday being a
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Speaker 3: little bit maybe too jumpy with the bullpen taking a
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Speaker 3: guy like Brooks Raley, who's been your second most trusted
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Speaker 3: reliever out for the entire second half after ten pitches
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Speaker 3: when one right these coming up with one guy in
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Speaker 3: first base like it was just there wasn't a lot
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Speaker 3: of consistency in the decision making by Carlos Mendoza, and
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Speaker 3: there was even less consistency with all the pitchers he
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Speaker 3: had at his disposal.
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Speaker 2: Or wait, wait, wait, back in June fifteenth, they lost
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Speaker 2: the game. Wait, no, we can't go over every single
17:18
Speaker 2: individual game, even though we're breaking down this weekend. So
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Speaker 2: I want to go to Juan Soto. When I say
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Speaker 2: Juan Soto, I need your initial honest reaction, I.
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Speaker 3: Mean say, you're gonna blame any guy in this team
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Speaker 3: for what happens. It's definitely not him. For as cold
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Speaker 3: as he was to start the season, he lived up
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Speaker 3: to the billing nine to fifty ops, forty home runs,
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Speaker 3: like the runs of scoring position. Stuff was bad early,
17:45
Speaker 3: it got very good late Sunday. A couple of chances
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Speaker 3: that didn't exactly go his way, but that's baseball. You're
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Speaker 3: not getting hit every time you come up, no matter
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Speaker 3: what the what the dollar science says next to your name.
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Speaker 3: He's It definitely is a strange clubhouse thing that was
17:58
Speaker 3: dealt with this year, owing a guy that came into it.
18:01
Speaker 3: I can't remark on that. I wasn't in that room,
18:03
Speaker 3: but it didn't seem like that was something that was
18:06
Speaker 3: strongly working against him, And if it was, that's a
18:09
Speaker 3: poor reflection on everybody in there. Because he's so good
18:12
Speaker 3: that we should be able to get over any clubhouse things,
18:14
Speaker 3: not saying there was one, but it can't be a
18:17
Speaker 3: bad thing that you had one, so tho to your team,
18:19
Speaker 3: and if it was, then I think everyone else needs
18:21
Speaker 3: to look internally a little bit closer.
18:24
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say what I think should happen this offseason,
18:27
Speaker 1: but what would you do this offseason to switch things
18:31
Speaker 1: up and try and remedy a situation where this team
18:33
Speaker 1: spends a ton of money on their player personnel? Right,
18:38
Speaker 1: the Mets are actually the example that's going to be
18:40
Speaker 1: used when we have the annoying salary cap conversations in
18:44
Speaker 1: the offseason, because like half the teams in the top
18:46
Speaker 1: ten didn't even make it, and the Mets are the
18:48
Speaker 1: prime example, and this has happened two times in the
18:51
Speaker 1: last few years, where the Mets top three in payroll.
18:54
Speaker 1: You're like, no way, this team doesn't at least crack
18:57
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they don't. My thought process is, how
19:00
Speaker 1: do you build a pitching staff like this to crumble
19:04
Speaker 1: in the last few months.
19:05
Speaker 2: This was a slow burn.
19:06
Speaker 1: This wasn't like, oh no, we got blitz at the
19:07
Speaker 1: buzzer like this was an incredible team for a couple
19:10
Speaker 1: months and then you know, you bring on guys that
19:13
Speaker 1: obviously either got hurt or couldn't last and didn't build
19:15
Speaker 1: the depth around it. That you're relying on three pitchers
19:18
Speaker 1: who did not expect to be up this season at all.
19:21
Speaker 1: So how do you fix this from a philosophy standpoint?
19:24
Speaker 1: Because I will say I don't think David Stearns believes
19:27
Speaker 1: in the big money Max Freed type signing, But look
19:30
Speaker 1: what Max Freed is about to do this week.
19:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Freeze also the cherry pick. He's the one
19:35
Speaker 3: guy that did work out with the big contract. And
19:37
Speaker 3: it is funny like talking about getting blissed at the
19:38
Speaker 3: end of the season, Like it's not like the Mets
19:40
Speaker 3: got chased down. Like in twenty twenty two, when the
19:42
Speaker 3: Braves played six fifty baseball for three straight months, the
19:45
Speaker 3: Reds were just forty and forty over the last eighty games.
19:48
Speaker 3: You got caught by a five hundred team. That's how
19:50
Speaker 3: bad you were. You were one of the worst teams
19:52
Speaker 3: in baseball for three straight months. And I feel like
19:55
Speaker 3: we talked a lot about the differences on rosters between
19:57
Speaker 3: like the Stars and then the scrubs, But then you
20:00
Speaker 3: always have to kind of look at the middle class
20:02
Speaker 3: of the team's roster in terms of payroll, Like you
20:03
Speaker 3: look at the Mets Stars, so though Lindor Alonzo, you
20:06
Speaker 3: can't really say much about the performans of those guys
20:08
Speaker 3: this season. And then you look towards the bottom of
20:10
Speaker 3: the roster and you have to be impressed by what
20:12
Speaker 3: Brett Baidy did this season or Francisco Alvas did this season.
20:15
Speaker 3: But then the problem is that this middle class of
20:17
Speaker 3: the roster, the guys making between like twenty and ten
20:19
Speaker 3: million dollars, the guys you're going out, you're giving money to,
20:22
Speaker 3: and they need to perform for you. Starling Marte twenty
20:24
Speaker 3: million dollars to be a part time DH who has
20:26
Speaker 3: lost all his athleticism. We can't play defense. That's terrible.
20:29
Speaker 3: Brett and themout twenty million dollars. Good season. Counting the
20:32
Speaker 3: numbers wise, defense took a step back. Arm is a
20:36
Speaker 3: complete liability in the outfield and his high leverage stats
20:38
Speaker 3: were abysmally bad. Joum and I another twenty million dollar guy.
20:41
Speaker 3: He was the offseason acquisition to steady the rotation. He
20:44
Speaker 3: did the exact opposite that. He took a lot of
20:46
Speaker 3: accountability after the game yesterday being like, if I'm even
20:49
Speaker 3: half as good as I know I can be, we
20:51
Speaker 3: make the playoffs. To not even discussion he was a
20:52
Speaker 3: total failure of this season. Edward Ds twenty million dollars,
20:55
Speaker 3: had a great season, No, nothing wrong with in DS.
20:57
Speaker 3: Would like to bring him back, Your guy's favorite pitcher
20:59
Speaker 3: in the league. Frankie seventeen million dollars. Don't have to
21:01
Speaker 3: rehash that. Jeff McNeil sixteen million dollars called they sang
21:04
Speaker 3: a sixteen million dollars.
21:05
Speaker 1: A J.
21:05
Speaker 3: Mintry signed him for eleven he got hurt in April,
21:08
Speaker 3: and Clay Holmes for thirteen, who was really useful, and
21:10
Speaker 3: Jesse Winker for another eight. Like that, entire meat and
21:12
Speaker 3: potatoes of the roster was almost complete failure. And the
21:16
Speaker 3: funny thing is, like, as we've gone through so many
21:18
Speaker 3: iterations of this Mets franchise under Steve Cohen, I just
21:21
Speaker 3: named guys who were brought in and signed by three,
21:24
Speaker 3: possibly four different executives along the way. So there's still
21:27
Speaker 3: a lot of just garbage and trash in the middle
21:29
Speaker 3: of this roster that needs to be sifted through and
21:31
Speaker 3: siphoned off. And at the same time, none of those
21:34
Speaker 3: guys almost performed up to their standards. If one of
21:36
Speaker 3: those guys performed to their standards, you probably find one
21:39
Speaker 3: more win and we probably get in the playoffs. But
21:40
Speaker 3: it's just a colossal failure from that chunk of the roster,
21:43
Speaker 3: through and through.
21:45
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know where to start. I mean,
21:47
Speaker 2: David Serage, this was supposed to be his specialty though,
21:49
Speaker 2: cleaning it up. I know it's only his first year,
21:52
Speaker 2: but you know, he did. He did bring in Montos,
21:55
Speaker 2: he did. He brought him Frankie Montos and I hate
21:57
Speaker 2: to go always go back to him, but he has
21:59
Speaker 2: a track record of being hurt and guess what, and
22:02
Speaker 2: when he hasn't been hurt, he hadn't been that great
22:03
Speaker 2: except for like for a little bit. So that is
22:06
Speaker 2: just that's what it is. It is what it is
22:08
Speaker 2: when it comes to that. And some of the other guys,
22:10
Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're signed, yes, I know that, but hey,
22:13
Speaker 2: you're the Mets. You're supposed to be able to cover
22:15
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff with their roster. And when you
22:17
Speaker 2: bring in Awan Soto and you bring in Francisco Indoor
22:20
Speaker 2: and you have a Pee Alonso and you bring all
22:22
Speaker 2: these guys in code, I singa's in triple A.
22:25
Speaker 3: He didn't pitch.
22:25
Speaker 2: I mean he could have. So there's a million things.
22:28
Speaker 2: But what I want to dig into is your announcers.
22:30
Speaker 2: You guys love Gary and Ron and Keith, and I
22:33
Speaker 2: get it, YadA YadA. They are the Homers and that
22:35
Speaker 2: they will criticize. But yesterday, come on, the Marlins took
22:39
Speaker 2: a picture at the end of the game and they're like,
22:41
Speaker 2: this is their world series? What are they doing? Well,
22:44
Speaker 2: guess what, it was the Mets World Series too, and
22:47
Speaker 2: they got shut out for Maybe the met should have
22:49
Speaker 2: said if we win, we'll take a team photo and
22:51
Speaker 2: they wouldn't have got shut out. Like I don't know.
22:54
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I do these games. I get it.
22:56
Speaker 2: I get that you're supposed to be a Homer, but
22:58
Speaker 2: criticizing another team for celebrating because you're mad you lost
23:02
Speaker 2: seems like kind of a weak way to go about this.
23:05
Speaker 3: Garrett Cohen through and through is a Mets fan, Like
23:08
Speaker 3: that's how he's fine. Yeah, that's kind of I think
23:10
Speaker 3: he identifies himself, and you're right about that. I thought
23:13
Speaker 3: that his comments after the game where a tad bit whiny,
23:15
Speaker 3: But I think it was windy. Just like when Mark
23:17
Speaker 3: and I came on our podcast this morning, I think
23:19
Speaker 3: we were a little bit whiny. I think if you
23:20
Speaker 3: had to watch this team go through what they went
23:22
Speaker 3: through over the last few months, there were some raw
23:24
Speaker 3: emotions that you felt as someone that loved and supported
23:27
Speaker 3: and were there for this team day in and day
23:29
Speaker 3: out this season. I think also at the same time,
23:31
Speaker 3: during that last broadcast, those last couple of games, Gary
23:35
Speaker 3: Keith and Rom Weroll pretty critical of the players on
23:37
Speaker 3: the field. Carls Mendoza especially, Ron took some shots. I
23:41
Speaker 3: thought maybe tongue in cheek a bit, just the team
23:43
Speaker 3: building in a way. At the same time too, looking
23:45
Speaker 3: at the Marlins, they were team that was alive for
23:47
Speaker 3: the playoffs on Thursday when they lost the game to
23:49
Speaker 3: the Phillies, they had a chance to sweep the Mets
23:51
Speaker 3: this weekend if the Reds would have been swept by
23:53
Speaker 3: the Brewers and actually stuck into the playoffs. Even with
23:56
Speaker 3: that possibility, they pushed back their a Sandy al Contraday
24:01
Speaker 3: for eight days rest so he could pitch the Friday
24:03
Speaker 3: night home game against the Mets rather than when he
24:05
Speaker 3: pitched the Thursday before. Push him up on regular rest
24:07
Speaker 3: to pitch the Tuesday and then keep them available for
24:09
Speaker 3: Sunday and what your absolute goals and opportunity could have
24:13
Speaker 3: been a must win game, and the Marlins seems to
24:15
Speaker 3: have forewent that possibility because there's a good chances with
24:18
Speaker 3: Sandy's last start, and I think they wanted a Friday
24:21
Speaker 3: night home game for their kind of premier player over
24:24
Speaker 3: the last half decade, and I think that's totally fair.
24:27
Speaker 3: But it is interesting when you look at this team
24:29
Speaker 3: like the Marlins, who were like, we're going to give
24:31
Speaker 3: and again this baseball, that's what we're supposed to do,
24:33
Speaker 3: give everything we have, just to ruin these guys season.
24:35
Speaker 3: I tip my cap to them. I wish the Mets
24:37
Speaker 3: would have given everything they could to save their own season,
24:39
Speaker 3: but it is funny how that happened, especially with the
24:41
Speaker 3: way they organized their pitching matchups for a series that
24:44
Speaker 3: to them meant nothing besides pride, and again I'm happy
24:46
Speaker 3: they had that pride. The Marlins were a better team
24:48
Speaker 3: the Mets over the last two months by a lot.
24:49
Speaker 3: Connor Norby spoke after the game on Friday, said we
24:51
Speaker 3: believe were better than them, and he was right. The
24:54
Speaker 3: last seven games the Mets and the Marlins played. The
24:56
Speaker 3: Marlins won five of them. Like that, you want to
24:58
Speaker 3: look at why you miss the playoffs for the Mets.
24:59
Speaker 3: That's a big for it.
25:01
Speaker 2: Listen, I wanted to make this caller. I have no
25:03
Speaker 2: problem with the announcer being a homer. I'm all four
25:05
Speaker 2: of the local announcer being a homer because they should
25:07
Speaker 2: be a homer. Right. You don't need to take a
25:08
Speaker 2: shot at the other team. He should have said, Man,
25:10
Speaker 2: look at the Marlins away they're celebrating. That should be
25:12
Speaker 2: the Mets right now, or something like you don't need
25:14
Speaker 2: to take that was more. My thing is like, you
25:15
Speaker 2: don't need to take a shot at the other team,
25:17
Speaker 2: Like call out your own team, which they do a
25:19
Speaker 2: good job of, but don't take a shot at the
25:20
Speaker 2: other team, right, Don't take a shot at guys on
25:22
Speaker 2: other teams. Take a shot at your own team if
25:24
Speaker 2: you want to, you know. But that's it. And listen,
25:27
Speaker 2: I love Gary Ron and Keith. I think they're one
25:28
Speaker 2: of the most entertaining home team do or trios or
25:32
Speaker 2: teams in baseball. But I just thought it was kind
25:34
Speaker 2: of weird that they took a shot at the other
25:36
Speaker 2: team for no reason.
25:37
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, just wanted to like paint the
25:39
Speaker 3: picture that they were taking plenty of shot to us,
25:41
Speaker 3: and then they went to the shots to them, they
25:42
Speaker 3: were they were fair across the board first and then
25:44
Speaker 3: they had to get, you know, especially Gary, just get
25:46
Speaker 3: that frustration out.
25:46
Speaker 2: I think Steve Cohen when he bought the team said
25:51
Speaker 2: how many years he was gonna break? He actually said
25:54
Speaker 2: three to five if we go to the exact But
25:58
Speaker 2: as a Mets fan, you're like, okay, I'll take I'll
26:00
Speaker 2: take the I'll take the longer route. How are Mets
26:03
Speaker 2: fans sitting here today going, is it another five year
26:08
Speaker 2: plan that we're ahead of?
26:10
Speaker 3: It's hard to tell at this point. I mean, we
26:12
Speaker 3: know how weird baseball is. We know the looming labor
26:15
Speaker 3: negotiations that are going to happen after next year. And
26:17
Speaker 3: again you look at the bottom and middle class to
26:20
Speaker 3: this roster and you're like, how how much better are
26:22
Speaker 3: these guys actually going to be next season? Again, like
26:24
Speaker 3: full faith and confidence in Francisco and Door and one,
26:27
Speaker 3: so though, really banking and hoping that Pelonso is a
26:30
Speaker 3: guy that is back next season. Will hold myself to that.
26:32
Speaker 3: And then you're pretty confident going into next season with
26:34
Speaker 3: both Francisco al for As Brett bay The as starting players.
26:37
Speaker 3: Besides that, like this entire pitching staff is under contract
26:40
Speaker 3: and every single guy's a question mark. You're really happy
26:43
Speaker 3: you saw from Nolan McLain lots of confidence in the future. Well,
26:46
Speaker 3: it wasn't great in the president from Brandon Brot and
26:48
Speaker 3: jonah Toong built one of the best farm systems in baseball.
26:51
Speaker 3: Not one relief pitcher under contract heading into next year.
26:54
Speaker 3: It's going to take a lot of work to think
26:55
Speaker 3: that this team could be a World Series team next year.
26:58
Speaker 3: And you're probably going to need some again, some really
27:01
Speaker 3: good signings in the middle class and kind of have
27:03
Speaker 3: to pull some more rabbits out of your hats for
27:05
Speaker 3: David Searns who did it really well two years ago
27:08
Speaker 3: and did not do it this year. So it's a lot.
27:10
Speaker 3: I think a lot's going to change. I think there's
27:12
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of turnover on this roster. Honestly,
27:14
Speaker 3: I think some guys have played their last games as
27:15
Speaker 3: Mets who are under contract. A guy like Jeff McNeil
27:18
Speaker 3: just kind of probably needing to change the culture a
27:20
Speaker 3: little bit I'm curious about how your organization feels over
27:24
Speaker 3: Ronnie Marissio and Mark Ciento's, over the way they're playing
27:27
Speaker 3: time when and the specific warriors Carls Mendoza had for
27:29
Speaker 3: each of them over these last few weeks. It's a
27:32
Speaker 3: it's a really strange looking roster right now and one
27:35
Speaker 3: that looking back, you're like, I can see how this team,
27:37
Speaker 3: I guess missed the playoffs but still still hurt.
27:39
Speaker 2: To the moment.
27:41
Speaker 1: At the time, I thought it was a little bit annoying,
27:45
Speaker 1: but I also get it. Pete playing his potential last
27:48
Speaker 1: home game with the Mets, and I think Pete's really
27:51
Speaker 1: nice and Quirky was like, really, we're talking about this
27:54
Speaker 1: right now, and it's the job of a reporter. You're
27:56
Speaker 1: getting in an ovation. So I'm okay with the question
28:00
Speaker 1: now though, is he opts he's opting out? Do you
28:02
Speaker 1: think we do another song and dance all off season?
28:06
Speaker 1: Because it's to me, it's not as much about the
28:09
Speaker 1: Mets and their interest in Pete. I think it's the
28:12
Speaker 1: rest of baseball and their lack of interest in a
28:15
Speaker 1: first basement with that profile, I think the Mets understand
28:18
Speaker 1: the importance of what he means there, and there were
28:21
Speaker 1: other teams that I thought would get involved.
28:24
Speaker 2: I will say, for.
28:24
Speaker 1: Example, the Washington Nationals, the Pittsburgh Pirates, those were teams
28:28
Speaker 1: that clearly could use a Pete Alonzo. They're just not
28:30
Speaker 1: going to spend like that, so it does start to
28:32
Speaker 1: shrink his market. What do you think about Pete for
28:35
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six?
28:37
Speaker 3: I really want Pete back on this team. I can't
28:40
Speaker 3: really imagine a Mets world at this point without him.
28:42
Speaker 3: But it's also it's clear as day, and it has
28:45
Speaker 3: been again last year this year, that he isn't a
28:47
Speaker 3: player without flaws, Like I think his defense this year,
28:50
Speaker 3: for one, that was bad. Heading in took another dramatic
28:53
Speaker 3: step back. His ability to throw the ball a strange
28:55
Speaker 3: and while he got off to that just rollicking hot start,
28:58
Speaker 3: he did have like a mid season and swoon and
29:00
Speaker 3: fade like a lot of these other guys did. And
29:03
Speaker 3: I don't know how much different his market is this
29:05
Speaker 3: year compared to last year. Like you said, first base
29:07
Speaker 3: his position that's idly been devalued in baseball. Bye the
29:10
Speaker 3: fact that Peter Alonzo you can pencil him in for
29:12
Speaker 3: thirty five home ors, a hundred and twenty RBIs. I
29:14
Speaker 3: don't think that's exactly what's being bought and sold on
29:16
Speaker 3: the free agent market, So I think you're gonna have
29:19
Speaker 3: to probably grind out another few months of waiting for
29:21
Speaker 3: this pe Alonzo thing. I'm assuming mid January again, similar
29:24
Speaker 3: to last season and the silence of the night, and
29:27
Speaker 3: I hope it's the Messa there at the end of
29:29
Speaker 3: the day. I wonder if a team out there is
29:30
Speaker 3: actually willing to give him a fourth or even a
29:32
Speaker 3: fifth year after last year and then coming back into
29:35
Speaker 3: this year, I kind of doubt it. And just like
29:37
Speaker 3: you said, like a lot of those teams who need
29:39
Speaker 3: first basement kind of had their first base. You guys
29:41
Speaker 3: were talking about the Giants before we got on their team.
29:43
Speaker 3: We expect to spend money this year. They can always
29:45
Speaker 3: use a power hitter. I don't think they signed a
29:47
Speaker 3: ped Alonso the block of Bryce Aldrich, like the Yankees
29:49
Speaker 3: are going to be a team that could need the
29:50
Speaker 3: first basement. I don't know if they signed p Alonso
29:52
Speaker 3: when they have all that money on their books still
29:54
Speaker 3: and the emergence of Ben Rice, Like, I just don't
29:56
Speaker 3: know which of the teams that you think will spend money.
29:59
Speaker 3: Actually like spending this money on this guy. Maybe it's
30:02
Speaker 3: the Red Sox. I don't know. We'll see how everything
30:04
Speaker 3: works out with them in Tristan. Costas know it's a
30:06
Speaker 3: strange situation there, but it feels like the market is
30:09
Speaker 3: oddly similar to last year. If the market similar to
30:11
Speaker 3: last year, I think the Mets and David Serns just
30:13
Speaker 3: played the same waiting game and hope they get their
30:15
Speaker 3: guy at their number again.
30:18
Speaker 2: James, you have to make a choice two good starting
30:21
Speaker 2: pitchers or Pete Alonzo Big. I'm not saying that Cohen
30:25
Speaker 2: has to make that choice.
30:29
Speaker 3: It all depends who those starting pitchers are. The free
30:31
Speaker 3: agent class for the season is a little bit lacking
30:34
Speaker 3: at the moment, so I'm really curious about again, how
30:37
Speaker 3: aggressive a team like the Mets are. I hope they
30:40
Speaker 3: dive deeper into the trade market. I know guys like
30:42
Speaker 3: Sandi at Contra, like we said before, and Joe Ryan
30:44
Speaker 3: are likely going to be available. Like that's right, I
30:47
Speaker 3: prefer to go We know how bad some of these
30:48
Speaker 3: pitching contracts have been, But if you give me that choice,
30:52
Speaker 3: I think I still would rather take Pete because I
30:54
Speaker 3: still believe in a lot of these young pitchers on
30:56
Speaker 3: this roster, Like I think next year you could walk
30:58
Speaker 3: in and say, Nolan mcclaims no day star there brands
31:01
Speaker 3: broke and start the year as a five to six
31:03
Speaker 3: and Jonah Tongkson triple A refining his game ready to go,
31:05
Speaker 3: and then the guys behind them like Jack Wender Joashan Santucci,
31:09
Speaker 3: like the Mets have some of the best pitching prospects
31:11
Speaker 3: in baseball. We'll Watson a big breakout this year, and
31:13
Speaker 3: I think that, similar to this year, will be kind
31:15
Speaker 3: of banking on them to come in like last year
31:18
Speaker 3: Christian Scott's coming back off injury. But depends if they're ready,
31:20
Speaker 3: depends on the summer months ago. I still just think
31:22
Speaker 3: that we got to get Pee Alonzo then try to
31:25
Speaker 3: figure out the pitching a different way, whether it be
31:27
Speaker 3: trades or the young guys.
31:28
Speaker 2: Again, all right, what would make Mets fans happy? Because
31:34
Speaker 2: nothing makes them happy obviously except for what but you
31:37
Speaker 2: mentioned trades. You're mentioning free agency. What would make Met
31:41
Speaker 2: fans happy trading McNeil and some of these other guys
31:44
Speaker 2: that are possibly have these contracts and using young guys
31:48
Speaker 2: Manaiyah or whoever. The Senga, whoever they could possibly get
31:51
Speaker 2: value for and using the young guys, or spending again
31:55
Speaker 2: in the free agent market and trying to go for
31:57
Speaker 2: the big fish. What would make Met fans more happy?
31:59
Speaker 2: Because they spent a lot, they didn't make it. Now
32:02
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, we have David Stearns, the master of
32:04
Speaker 2: finding scrap heaps. You just said, right, guys off the
32:06
Speaker 2: scrap even filling in spots. When they tried that with
32:09
Speaker 2: some of their guys, those didn't work. So what makes
32:11
Speaker 2: Met fans happy?
32:13
Speaker 3: I mean, just wearing something right here? I think would
32:15
Speaker 3: make Mets fans happy. The only thing the Mets fans
32:17
Speaker 3: want is to win the World Series. That's literally it.
32:19
Speaker 3: However we get there, whatever it takes. I do think
32:22
Speaker 3: a lot of Mets fans are ready for an all
32:25
Speaker 3: in moment. I think similar to a Garrett Crochet trade
32:28
Speaker 3: that the Red Sox made last year. If I had
32:30
Speaker 3: to take the temperature of Mets fans what they want
32:32
Speaker 3: the most, I'm assuming it's that we're at the same time.
32:35
Speaker 3: I just don't think that guy's available. Garrett Crochets don't
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Speaker 3: come around every year, and the Red Sox have way
32:39
Speaker 3: better prospects even last year, and I think the Mets
32:42
Speaker 3: might even have now definitely better in the Mets had
32:43
Speaker 3: available to them to trade last season. I think if
32:46
Speaker 3: Mets fans don't go into next season with a front
32:48
Speaker 3: line starting pitcher, however they perceive that guy to be,
32:52
Speaker 3: I think there will be some disappointment. We're at the
32:54
Speaker 3: same time, I do think that again, the greatest failure
32:56
Speaker 3: of so far David Stearns and this Mets roster was
32:59
Speaker 3: kinds of shopping too much in the middle class. Like
33:02
Speaker 3: David Stearns, I think is still trying to learn how
33:04
Speaker 3: to be a big market executive. And two moves he
33:07
Speaker 3: made last year that were big market moves where Sean
33:10
Speaker 3: and I and Frankie Mantas for forty million dollars combined.
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Speaker 3: You don't make those moves. You're the general manager of
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Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Brewers. You make those moves when you're like,
33:17
Speaker 3: I can spend these forty dollars, go over the luxury tags,
33:19
Speaker 3: don't care. Let me try and get some innings that
33:21
Speaker 3: I think are reliable that might have some upside. If
33:23
Speaker 3: you don't make those moves, you probably keep shopping for
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Speaker 3: Jose Kintan and Matthew Boyd a few weeks later, guys,
33:28
Speaker 3: who are you know with that ten million dollar range?
33:30
Speaker 3: I think it's it's still him trying to learn what
33:33
Speaker 3: it is. But at the same time, like you definitely
33:35
Speaker 3: talk to guys like Dylan See's, Freddie Peralta, fran Bravaldez,
33:39
Speaker 3: this Offseas's not saying I particularly want those guys, especially
33:42
Speaker 3: my instant reaction of what I'm thinking about any of them.
33:44
Speaker 3: But you have to find a way to get at
33:47
Speaker 3: least some kind of stabilizing picture in herewever hold holda.
33:51
Speaker 2: You can't criticize them an I a sign mean, he
33:52
Speaker 2: was their best picture the whole second half last month
33:55
Speaker 2: last year, and in the playoffs he was like a
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Speaker 2: bona fide a see, so you can't see that that
34:00
Speaker 2: was good. But here's the thing about what you're saying
34:02
Speaker 2: about David Stearns though, right, this is what big market
34:05
Speaker 2: teams are supposed to do. They're supposed to be able
34:07
Speaker 2: to get those guys right and fill the spots, which
34:11
Speaker 2: but that didn't happen. The guys are already there. Didn't happen.
34:14
Speaker 2: So that's why I wonder what makes met fan taby
34:16
Speaker 2: So you'd rather go all young guys, and as far
34:18
Speaker 2: as they're all in moment, they signed a guy for
34:21
Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty five million, that's their all in moment.
34:25
Speaker 2: That's the way we're all in guys. I mean, you
34:28
Speaker 2: can't get any more all in than signing one Soto
34:30
Speaker 2: for what you signed them for.
34:32
Speaker 3: There still medium all in because again we went to
34:34
Speaker 3: the season with very questionable pitching and again, like the
34:37
Speaker 3: Shaumanai contract last year, he had an amazing half season,
34:40
Speaker 3: but a lot of the Shamani success last year, and
34:43
Speaker 3: we've all talked about this, the facts they changed our
34:45
Speaker 3: mangled dramatically. So you had two months of a guy
34:47
Speaker 3: that changed the way he pitched in season. And then
34:50
Speaker 3: he's someone that has DEBLT injuries in the past. He
34:51
Speaker 3: someone that has deble consistency issues in the past, and
34:53
Speaker 3: you just saw both of those things come truition this
34:55
Speaker 3: whole season. Again, shaumana I is the guy's a team
34:58
Speaker 3: leaders guy love having this clubhouse. He was some who
35:00
Speaker 3: was very accountable yesterday talking about his own struggles this year,
35:03
Speaker 3: as he felt with the primary recent this team didn't
35:05
Speaker 3: get to where they were. It takes a lot for
35:07
Speaker 3: a player to say that you could kind of feel
35:09
Speaker 3: minigh this year playing with the weight of that contract
35:12
Speaker 3: he signed. He understood how important that money was and
35:14
Speaker 3: how important he was to this team. It was probably
35:17
Speaker 3: a situation where between him and Kodai Sanga, they might
35:20
Speaker 3: have brushed those guys back from their injuries, knowing how
35:22
Speaker 3: important it was to get them back in July when
35:25
Speaker 3: that pitching was really starting to fall apart. Through June,
35:27
Speaker 3: after they had a lot of injuries to the depth
35:28
Speaker 3: guys and mess of the weird thing too with each
35:31
Speaker 3: of them where they brought them back just before the
35:33
Speaker 3: All Star break rather than just after like a lot
35:35
Speaker 3: of teams will do with injured players. Korda, Sanga, Maz
35:37
Speaker 3: return that Friday, Shaman and I and Mays return that Sunday.
35:40
Speaker 3: Each of those guys pitched again in the following weekends.
35:42
Speaker 3: They can kind of jam and give those guys as
35:44
Speaker 3: many appearances as possible. I think it's the right thing
35:46
Speaker 3: if they're healthy, but it seems like they might not
35:49
Speaker 3: have been healthy, and maybe that rushing back is a
35:51
Speaker 3: thing that kind of took all of them off their
35:53
Speaker 3: roles for the second half. But it's still it's just
35:55
Speaker 3: a weird pitching staff and a weird roster, and I
35:56
Speaker 3: think that without again a super bona FI days on
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Speaker 3: the market, unless you make that Joe, Ryan or Sandy trade,
36:03
Speaker 3: you're probably going to be shopping closer to the bargain
36:05
Speaker 3: bin than the top line of these creations.
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Speaker 1: Once again, great analysis, James, really good stuff. Crazy season
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Speaker 1: to cover this seam and get to this point. We'll
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Speaker 1: be talking again soon. Appreciate you man, good catching up.
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Speaker 3: Thanks, guys, appreciate it.