Latest / DISGRACELAND / Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love Pt. 1: No Direction Home
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right guys, welcome into this week's rewind episode of
- 0:02Speaker 1: disgrace land We are getting into our nirvana story this
- 0:06Speaker 1: weekend and we released these episodes originally back in march
- 0:10Speaker 1: of 2019 I gotta say when they were released. I
- 0:14Speaker 1: was shocked. I was legitimately shocked at the reaction Uh
- 0:19Speaker 1: the blowback from people who really believe that kurt cobain
- 0:23Speaker 1: did not commit suicide um It was so strong that
- 0:31Speaker 1: it forced me to dig back into the research and
- 0:33Speaker 1: see if I missed anything. And I came out the
- 0:35Speaker 1: other side, and I still believe what I believed when
- 0:38Speaker 1: these were originally released and written. You know, Courtney Love,
- 0:44Speaker 1: think what you might about her. I do not believe
- 0:47Speaker 1: she is a killer, despite what some documentaries might say.
- 0:51Speaker 1: When you look at the actual evidence, including evidence from
- 0:54Speaker 1: a so-called organization, study that came out in February of 2026.
- 0:59Speaker 1: It got a lot of hype, a lot of news.
- 1:02Speaker 1: We looked at all of that and came to the
- 1:05Speaker 1: same conclusion. Kurt Cobain was a deeply tormented artist. Courtney
- 1:11Speaker 1: Love is a deeply complicated person and artist. And their
- 1:16Speaker 1: story is tragic. The story of Nirvana is singular in
- 1:20Speaker 1: the history of rock and roll. And these two episodes
- 1:24Speaker 1: reflect those Two points. Releasing them again now for a
- 1:30Speaker 1: specific reason. There's a Courtney Love documentary coming, I don't
- 1:33Speaker 1: know when, in the next couple months, some point. And
- 1:38Speaker 1: I think what I want to do is I want
- 1:39Speaker 1: to hear from you guys and hear what you think
- 1:41Speaker 1: on this story. Do you still, after listening to both
- 1:44Speaker 1: of these episodes, still believe that Kurt's death was not
- 1:49Speaker 1: the official cause of suicide, death by suicide, or do
- 1:53Speaker 1: you believe something nefarious happened? I want to know 617-906-6638,
- 1:57Speaker 1: voicemail and text to let me know at DisgracelandPod on
- 2:00Speaker 1: the socials, DisgracelandPod at gmail.com. And based on the reaction
- 2:04Speaker 1: I get from you guys, I might end up taking
- 2:06Speaker 1: a deeper look into the so-called conspiracy theorists who believe
- 2:11Speaker 1: that something else was at play. We'll get into that later.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Here's part one of the Nirvana story. Kurt Cobain is
- 2:36Speaker 1: a celebrated and defiant icon of Generation X. His wife,
- 2:41Speaker 1: Courtney Love, was once the most hated woman in America,
- 2:44Speaker 1: and to this day still does what she can to
- 2:46Speaker 1: wear that crown. Courtney Love, like Kurt Cobain, was unapologetic, fierce, determined, ambitious, authentic,
- 2:54Speaker 1: and a total hypocrite. The two were also totally in
- 2:58Speaker 1: love and at times completely insane. They spit in the
- 3:01Speaker 1: face of authority, did more heroin than Johnny Thunders, and
- 3:04Speaker 1: one of them lived long enough to brag about it.
- 3:07Speaker 1: They challenged gender norms in the music industry patriarchy and
- 3:10Speaker 1: reluctantly played the roles of their generations John and Yoko
- 3:14Speaker 1: by way of Sid and Nancy. Despite his marriage to
- 3:17Speaker 1: Courtney Love and birth of their daughter Frances Bean, Kurt
- 3:21Speaker 1: Cobain never really had a home. He was born into dysfunction,
- 3:25Speaker 1: and as a child was rejected by his family, his community,
- 3:28Speaker 1: and society at large. He never had a chance. But
- 3:32Speaker 1: for a minute, before burning out, he shined brighter than most.
- 3:36Speaker 1: He channeled his rejection through the saving grace of his
- 3:39Speaker 1: beloved punk rock, and in doing so, became the reluctant
- 3:42Speaker 1: voice of a disaffected generation, and popular beyond his wildest dreams.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Wanted by everyone, even by his account, the most attractive
- 3:51Speaker 1: and talented female artist on the scene at the time,
- 3:54Speaker 1: Courtney Love. It goes without saying that Kurt Cobain and
- 3:58Speaker 1: Courtney Love made great music. And that music you heard
- 4:01Speaker 1: at the top of the show, that wasn't great music.
- 4:03Speaker 1: That was a preset loop from my Mellotron called Mellow
- 4:06Speaker 1: Street Corner Serenade, BK1. I played you that loop because
- 4:10Speaker 1: I can't afford the rights to I'm Too Sexy by
- 4:13Speaker 1: Right Said Fred. And why would I play you that
- 4:16Speaker 1: specific slice of cheeky cheese, could I afford it? because
- 4:19Speaker 1: that was the number one song in America on February 24th, 1992.
- 4:25Speaker 1: And that was the day that Kurt Cobain married Courtney Love,
- 4:28Speaker 1: creating what would become one of, if not the most
- 4:31Speaker 1: notorious couples in rock and roll history. On this, the
- 4:35Speaker 1: first of a special two-part episode to commence season three,
- 4:38Speaker 1: Cheeky Cheese, A Street Corner Serenade, No Direction Home, Courtney Love,
- 4:43Speaker 1: and Kurt Cobain. I'm Jake Brennan, and this is Disgraceland.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain. Not literally. Figuratively. Like most
- 5:25Speaker 1: everything else in Kurt's life, his wife was too much
- 5:27Speaker 1: for him to handle. His fame, his success, and all
- 5:31Speaker 1: the trappings that came with it that he tried in
- 5:33Speaker 1: vain to reject. Not to mention the pressure of living
- 5:36Speaker 1: up to the hype, his addiction to heroin, his crippling
- 5:39Speaker 1: stomach pain, the deep wounds of his childhood, and his
- 5:42Speaker 1: inability to find comfort or a sense of home anywhere
- 5:44Speaker 1: or with anyone. Despite his complex yet loving relationship with Courtney,
- 5:50Speaker 1: her own heavy personal baggage piled on top of everything
- 5:53Speaker 1: else became unbearable for Kurt Cobain. Most people point to
- 5:59Speaker 1: his heroin addiction as the main reason for his death,
- 6:02Speaker 1: or that he was simply depressed. But those explanations are
- 6:05Speaker 1: too easy. Others lay the Yoko trip on Courtney Love,
- 6:09Speaker 1: but that is, as John Lennon would say, thick and ordinary.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Courtney Love came into a relationship with Kurt Cobain as
- 6:16Speaker 1: an experienced heroin user, sure, and she did indeed enable
- 6:20Speaker 1: Kurt's addiction. But the real truth is that he enabled
- 6:23Speaker 1: hers just as much. No one thing was responsible for
- 6:26Speaker 1: his death, and no matter how intriguing the conspiracy theories are,
- 6:30Speaker 1: the ones that try to paint the death of some
- 6:32Speaker 1: wild murder scheme cooked up by Courtney are, in a word, untrue.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Courtney Love did not literally kill Kurt Cobain, but she did,
- 6:40Speaker 1: quite literally, save his life. In early January 1992, Kurt
- 6:46Speaker 1: Cobain was becoming the biggest rock star in the world,
- 6:49Speaker 1: and he was miserable. He was away from home, whatever
- 6:52Speaker 1: that was, and suffering through the highs and lows of
- 6:54Speaker 1: a serious heroin addiction. Heroin, for Kurt, had a dual effect.
- 6:59Speaker 1: On the one hand, it was the one thing that
- 7:01Speaker 1: stymied his crippling stomach pain, a psychosomatic illness that doctors
- 7:06Speaker 1: were never able to officially diagnose. But it bared similar
- 7:09Speaker 1: symptoms to the worst aspects of every stomach ailment you
- 7:12Speaker 1: know of. IBS, ulcers, rumination disorder. Certainly this pain demanded
- 7:17Speaker 1: something stronger than warm milk and laxatives. On the other hand,
- 7:22Speaker 1: heroin was an express ticket straight to oblivion. A trip
- 7:25Speaker 1: for Kurt Cobain that had become a necessity. He began
- 7:28Speaker 1: using a few years earlier when his band Nirvana was
- 7:31Speaker 1: just starting out. He knew the danger involved, but he
- 7:34Speaker 1: also knew his pain and his heartache. And he knew
- 7:37Speaker 1: that no other drug, not the acid he'd swallowed, the
- 7:40Speaker 1: coeludes he'd taken, the speed he'd snorted, none of it.
- 7:42Speaker 1: had the power to suppress the deep feelings of loneliness
- 7:45Speaker 1: and rejection he'd carried with him since adolescence. So heroin,
- 7:50Speaker 1: for Kurt, was about self-medication, physical and psychological. For Courtney,
- 7:56Speaker 1: though not without her own childhood pain and demons, heroin
- 7:59Speaker 1: was about getting high. She'd started using earlier when she
- 8:03Speaker 1: first struck out as a musician because shooting dope was
- 8:06Speaker 1: quite literally, in her estimation anyway, what the cool kids
- 8:09Speaker 1: were doing. But Courtney... at least in comparison to Kurt,
- 8:13Speaker 1: had it under control. Which meant that the burden of
- 8:16Speaker 1: being the responsible one usually fell to her. And what
- 8:19Speaker 1: that meant, in hardcore junkie reality terms, was that she
- 8:22Speaker 1: was the one who had to take care of Kurt
- 8:24Speaker 1: when he overdosed. And he overdosed a lot. But this time,
- 8:28Speaker 1: he was dead, lying on the floor of the Omni
- 8:31Speaker 1: Hotel in New York City. Next to the bed his
- 8:33Speaker 1: fiancée was asleep in, Courtney Love, the singer of the
- 8:36Speaker 1: rapidly rising grunge band Hole. A few hours earlier, Nirvana
- 8:40Speaker 1: had made their live television debut on Saturday Night Live.
- 8:44Speaker 1: It had also been the same weekend that Nirvana's major
- 8:46Speaker 1: label debut album, Nevermind, knocked Michael Jackson's Dangerous from the
- 8:50Speaker 1: number one slot on the Billboard charts. It was a
- 8:53Speaker 1: moment Kurt had long dreamed of. For astute fans of Nirvana,
- 8:58Speaker 1: it was obvious that their performance on SNL was uneven,
- 9:01Speaker 1: but nonetheless, it was still a triumph. It was not
- 9:04Speaker 1: only their first live TV performance on a long-running late-night
- 9:07Speaker 1: tastemaking series, no less, but it was also the first
- 9:10Speaker 1: live national television performance of a quote-unquote grunge band, the
- 9:14Speaker 1: new sound percolating out of the cloudy confines of America's
- 9:17Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest. And beyond that, for many young Americans, Nirvana's
- 9:21Speaker 1: first SNL appearance was their first look at punk rock. Sure,
- 9:25Speaker 1: Nirvana had a new take on the genre that first
- 9:27Speaker 1: broke back in 1977, but at its core, the band
- 9:31Speaker 1: was punk as fuck, in style, sound, and ethos. For
- 9:37Speaker 1: suburban kids watching that night, their first look at the
- 9:40Speaker 1: band must have been arresting. A three-piece, the band couldn't
- 9:44Speaker 1: have looked more mismatched. The drummer is barely seen behind
- 9:48Speaker 1: his massive kit, but holy shit can he be heard,
- 9:50Speaker 1: flailing about wildly with a distinct hardcore energy. The type
- 9:54Speaker 1: that can only be learned on the makeshift stages of
- 9:56Speaker 1: all ages shows at VFW halls and in friends' sweaty basements.
- 10:00Speaker 1: The bass player was like, what, 14 feet tall? A
- 10:03Speaker 1: giant bearing down on his black Fender Precision bass, making
- 10:06Speaker 1: it look like a ukulele in his grip. In the
- 10:10Speaker 1: scrawny little singer next to him, otherwise an afterthought in
- 10:13Speaker 1: comparison to the Charisma Despair rhythm section, were it not
- 10:16Speaker 1: for his intensity. It's obvious from the first second you
- 10:19Speaker 1: lay eyes on despite his disinterest in the song he's playing.
- 10:22Speaker 1: But he's unlike anything you've seen before. His hair is
- 10:25Speaker 1: dyed plum red, a deeper shade of Johnny Rotten. His
- 10:28Speaker 1: jeans are baggy and so torn you assume they're his
- 10:31Speaker 1: only pair. He's wearing a button-down cardigan sweater that is
- 10:34Speaker 1: two sizes too big over what appears to be a
- 10:36Speaker 1: homemade concert t-shirt for a band called Flipper that most
- 10:39Speaker 1: of the world has never heard of before. He's going
- 10:43Speaker 1: through the motions, but the rhythm section is going apeshit.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Sail on, goes the song. Their first single, Smells Like
- 10:52Speaker 1: Teen Spirit, which up until that point had been a
- 10:54Speaker 1: heat-seeking missile on the charts and ubiquitous on radio and MTV,
- 10:59Speaker 1: is getting a good live working over by a band
- 11:01Speaker 1: that America is falling in love with right there in
- 11:03Speaker 1: that moment on live television. If in 1992 you'd been
- 11:11Speaker 1: listening to college radio or staying up late to watch
- 11:14Speaker 1: Dave Kendall on MTV's 120 Minutes or sweating it out
- 11:17Speaker 1: in punk rock clubs, the song's elements were nothing new
- 11:20Speaker 1: to you The quiet, loud, quiet verse-chorus-verse arrangement was straight-up
- 11:25Speaker 1: Pixies and the discordant guitarist stonk of Sonic Youth. The
- 11:29Speaker 1: pounding rhythm hit you hard like Seattle's Melvins, a band
- 11:32Speaker 1: whose t-shirts were worn proudly by both members of the
- 11:35Speaker 1: rhythm section on stage that night. But taken in composite,
- 11:39Speaker 1: layered onto one another, and combined with their own unique
- 11:42Speaker 1: style and attitude, the band was something completely new for
- 11:45Speaker 1: the time. The second performance on SNO. was the pummeling
- 11:50Speaker 1: Petropace territorial pisses. It's more punk than grunge-sounding, faster, angrier
- 11:55Speaker 1: than Smells Like Teen Spirit, and more subversive with its lyric,
- 11:59Speaker 1: Never met a wise man, if so, it's a woman.
- 12:02Speaker 1: The singer is screaming bloody murder, and you're wired into
- 12:05Speaker 1: his pain. It's deeper and more visceral than anything else
- 12:09Speaker 1: mainstream music had offered to that point. John Lennon may
- 12:12Speaker 1: have paved the way with his primal scream, but it
- 12:14Speaker 1: never made its way to the top of the charts.
- 12:16Speaker 1: And the singer's shattered torture is obvious and right there
- 12:19Speaker 1: on the screen. It's balanced out by the precision of
- 12:22Speaker 1: the rhythm section. The song ends and the band trashes
- 12:25Speaker 1: their equipment. But they're a nomad hatter Keith Moon Grims
- 12:28Speaker 1: from past generations. The destruction is pure violence. All menace.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Three times the Pete. During the show's end credits, the
- 12:43Speaker 1: band is aligned on stage next to the host, Northern
- 12:46Speaker 1: Exposure's Rob Morrow. Cast members, notably Chris Rock, Kevin Nealon,
- 12:51Speaker 1: and David Spade mill about behind them. The band picks
- 12:54Speaker 1: up as Morrow says goodnight, and then the bass player
- 12:56Speaker 1: grabs the drummer by the sides of his face and
- 12:59Speaker 1: plants a full-on tongue kiss on him. The singer notices
- 13:02Speaker 1: what's happening and can't help but smile. He grabs them
- 13:05Speaker 1: both in a group hug and is grabbed by the
- 13:07Speaker 1: bass player and kissed just as forcefully as his drummer was.
- 13:10Speaker 1: He backs off, he's hysterical, and is picked up by
- 13:13Speaker 1: his drummer and swung around joyfully. Everything about it spoke
- 13:17Speaker 1: to me as a 17-year-old at the time, watching it
- 13:20Speaker 1: all play out alongside my closest high school stoner buddies
- 13:23Speaker 1: on the couch at my friend Dorf's house. It was smart, funny, juvenile, punk,
- 13:28Speaker 1: and pissed. It was loud, fast, feminist, queer, and confident.
- 13:32Speaker 1: And it was fun, and totally, and completely subversive. It
- 13:36Speaker 1: was Nirvana. And it was 100% unlike anything else that
- 13:40Speaker 1: had been on live national television before. As a culture,
- 13:44Speaker 1: thanks to Nirvana, we had entered new territory. And Chris Novoselic,
- 13:48Speaker 1: Dave Grohl, and Kurt Cobain had gloriously pissed all over it,
- 13:52Speaker 1: marking it as their own. So, it was a triumph.
- 13:56Speaker 1: But Kurt Cobain wasn't in the mood for celebrating. Fuck
- 13:59Speaker 1: the cast party. He needed to get hyped. The needle
- 14:26Speaker 1: puncturing the skin was part of the addiction. The piercing,
- 14:30Speaker 1: the droplet of blood thumbing down the syringe, it all
- 14:33Speaker 1: meant one thing.
- 14:35Speaker 2: Oblivion.
- 14:38Speaker 1: And oblivion was what Kurt Cobain craved. He prepped the
- 14:42Speaker 1: china white, slammed it into his arm, and drifted off.
- 14:46Speaker 1: The dream was less a dream and more a pastiche
- 14:49Speaker 1: of shame and rejection. It was one of the things
- 14:52Speaker 1: Kurt hated about heroin. Usually, if he used enough of
- 14:56Speaker 1: it and he was kind of legendary for the amount
- 14:58Speaker 1: of dope he could handle at one time, the high
- 15:00Speaker 1: would be heavy enough to suppress the dreams, but every
- 15:03Speaker 1: now and then, those days back in Aberdeen crept up
- 15:05Speaker 1: from his subconscious. In the dream, it was Kurt in
- 15:09Speaker 1: jail writing porn for his fellow inmates to jerk off to. This,
- 15:13Speaker 1: of course, never happened in real life, but that didn't
- 15:16Speaker 1: stop Kurt from telling this story to help bolster his
- 15:18Speaker 1: own mythology. And the lies seeped into his subconscious. It
- 15:23Speaker 1: wasn't that he was ashamed of the lie or the
- 15:24Speaker 1: masturbation or even the arrest over a slew of minor
- 15:27Speaker 1: offenses that resulted in an eight-day stay in the local
- 15:30Speaker 1: Aberdeen jail. He was ashamed because he had no one
- 15:33Speaker 1: to call to bail him out. He was 19 years
- 15:36Speaker 1: old and literally didn't have anyone. And it had been
- 15:39Speaker 1: this way for most of his adolescence. Kurt's mom, Wendy,
- 15:43Speaker 1: kicked him out at the age of 17. Kurt went
- 15:45Speaker 1: to live with his father, Don, and in the beginning
- 15:48Speaker 1: it was okay. Better than being with his mom and
- 15:50Speaker 1: having to tell his horny friends to stop gawking at her.
- 15:53Speaker 1: But then his dad met Jenny and decided to start
- 15:56Speaker 1: a new family. It was clear to Kurt that he
- 15:58Speaker 1: didn't fit into his dad's new life. Jenny had two
- 16:02Speaker 1: kids and Kurt frequently clashed with his new step-siblings. His
- 16:06Speaker 1: dad made a feeble effort at making it work but
- 16:08Speaker 1: ultimately acquiesced to his new wife's wishes and kicked Kurt out.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Kurt bounced back to his mom's and she took him
- 16:15Speaker 1: in briefly. He fought constantly with her new husband until
- 16:18Speaker 1: eventually landing back out of the house. Kurt went to
- 16:21Speaker 1: stay with his grandparents in their trailer for a time,
- 16:23Speaker 1: but that didn't work. So teenage Kurt Cobain shuffled from
- 16:26Speaker 1: house to house, staying with friends and their families when
- 16:28Speaker 1: he could, and eventually landing in various foster homes until
- 16:32Speaker 1: he was old enough to move into an apartment with
- 16:34Speaker 1: a friend at age 18. But at the time of
- 16:37Speaker 1: the arrest, he was homeless, alternately sleeping at the house
- 16:40Speaker 1: of a high school English teacher and in the backseat
- 16:42Speaker 1: of a friend's mom's beat-up Volvo. Regardless of his living situation,
- 16:47Speaker 1: Kurt had no family support system to call on from jail.
- 16:51Speaker 1: He'd been rejected so fully, so often from both his
- 16:55Speaker 1: mother and his father that calling them, now, at age
- 16:58Speaker 1: 19 would have been futile. If they weren't there for
- 17:01Speaker 1: him when he was 17, then how, he reasoned, could
- 17:03Speaker 1: they possibly be there for him as a young adult?
- 17:07Speaker 1: Shame and rejection borrowed itself into Kurt Cobain and despite
- 17:10Speaker 1: the tremendous amounts of powerful heroin he injected, it still
- 17:14Speaker 1: fucked with him. Oblivion was the goal because reality was
- 17:18Speaker 1: too painful, even for a man on the verge of
- 17:20Speaker 1: realizing his dreams. His heroine dreams were preferable to reality,
- 17:25Speaker 1: as there were usually nothing more than big, black, heavily
- 17:28Speaker 1: weighted blankets holding him down, compressing him to this cruel
- 17:31Speaker 1: world as it spun wildly, doing its best to shake
- 17:34Speaker 1: him from its surface. But this dream... The one where
- 17:38Speaker 1: he was back in Aberdeen, in jail, writing porn, jailed
- 17:41Speaker 1: rednecks surrounding him in the cell, some of them masturbating furiously,
- 17:45Speaker 1: the rest of them looking at him with distrust and
- 17:47Speaker 1: hate and the feeling that he's trapped, unable to get out,
- 17:51Speaker 1: unable to go home. This was a dream of deep
- 17:53Speaker 1: emotional pain. Kurt searched for a way out, away from
- 17:58Speaker 1: the hurt, deeper into the darkness. But when he saw
- 18:01Speaker 1: his chance, he took it and dove headfirst into the
- 18:04Speaker 1: black unknown. And there was a flat thud. In Kurt's unconscious,
- 18:08Speaker 1: it was the sound of breaking through. But in Kurt's
- 18:10Speaker 1: four-star New York City hotel room, in the early morning
- 18:13Speaker 1: hours after his legendary SNL performance, it was the sound
- 18:16Speaker 1: of him falling off of his bed, onto the floor,
- 18:19Speaker 1: and into a heroin overdose. When Courtney awoke and realized
- 18:27Speaker 1: Kurt wasn't sleeping next to her, her heart jumped into
- 18:30Speaker 1: her throat. She immediately feared the worst. She found Kurt
- 18:34Speaker 1: on the floor next to the bed, his skin green
- 18:36Speaker 1: and in a death-like unconsciousness. She pounced, straddling him as
- 18:42Speaker 1: he lay on his back. She began pounding his chest
- 18:44Speaker 1: with her fist to get his lungs pumping. When that
- 18:46Speaker 1: didn't work, she got to her feet, grabbed the ice
- 18:49Speaker 1: bucket on the room service tray with the empty bottle
- 18:51Speaker 1: of champagne in it, and began palming hands full of
- 18:54Speaker 1: whatever unmelted cubes of ice she could find into her
- 18:56Speaker 1: near-dead fiancé' s asshole. But when that didn't revive him, she
- 19:01Speaker 1: surveyed the room for Kurt's leather jacket, the one with
- 19:03Speaker 1: the Vaseline's pin on. She saw it crumpled on the
- 19:06Speaker 1: floor in the corner. Courtney had the pin off in seconds.
- 19:09Speaker 1: She pulled Kurt's dirty jeans down to his ankles, ripped
- 19:12Speaker 1: off his boxers and began poking his testicles with the pin,
- 19:15Speaker 1: pausing only to smack Kurt across his acne cheeks, then
- 19:18Speaker 1: returning to stab the scrotum with the pin again. Finally,
- 19:22Speaker 1: he began to come back to life. Courtney threw cold
- 19:25Speaker 1: water on his face and his eyes opened. She then
- 19:27Speaker 1: pulled him to his feet, started dragging him about the
- 19:30Speaker 1: room to get him moving again. Once he started to
- 19:32Speaker 1: gain his strength and hold himself up a bit, She
- 19:35Speaker 1: began rotating his arms to get more of the blood flowing.
- 19:38Speaker 1: It was all routine to her. She'd saved his life
- 19:41Speaker 1: before and would save his life again. It was a
- 19:44Speaker 1: process he'd grown accustomed to, grown to depend on. He
- 19:48Speaker 1: was familiar, like home. We'll be right back after this word, word, word.
- 19:58Speaker 1: Before Courtney, there was Tracy. Before stardom and four-star hotels,
- 20:03Speaker 1: there was a one-room apartment in the college town of Olympia, Washington.
- 20:07Speaker 1: Kurt moved there from Aberdeen to live with Tracy in
- 20:10Speaker 1: a studio apartment. The place stunk and wasn't as tidy
- 20:13Speaker 1: as Tracy would have liked, but it was home. Their home. Together.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Tracy worked and made enough for them to get by. Barely. Mostly,
- 20:24Speaker 1: Kurt didn't work. He slept until noon and spent his
- 20:27Speaker 1: days playing guitar, sometimes strumming in front of the TV,
- 20:31Speaker 1: sometimes journaling or making art. Tracy shrugged off Kurt's clutter,
- 20:35Speaker 1: his weird drawings, his apparent inability to wash a dish,
- 20:38Speaker 1: and his neediness. She loved him, and so she took
- 20:42Speaker 1: care of him, made sure he ate at least one
- 20:44Speaker 1: meal a day, didn't sleep too much, that sort of thing.
- 20:48Speaker 1: As for Kurt, he'd said it more than once, Tracy
- 20:50Speaker 1: was the perfect girlfriend, and he only missed Wendy, his mom,
- 20:53Speaker 1: a little. As perfect as Tracy may have been, Kurt
- 20:58Speaker 1: left her back at the apartment on an April Sunday
- 21:01Speaker 1: in 1988. And along with Chris Novoselic and Dave Foster,
- 21:04Speaker 1: Nirvana's third drummer, loaded their gear out of their practice space,
- 21:08Speaker 1: packed up a borrowed Econoline van, and drove 60 miles
- 21:11Speaker 1: north to Seattle so that his new band could play
- 21:14Speaker 1: a legit rock show in a real club with a
- 21:16Speaker 1: real PA. Kurt was quiet, trying to ignore his clenching gut.
- 21:22Speaker 1: He told himself things were good. Things would be fine.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Just a couple of months ago, they'd recorded their demo,
- 21:27Speaker 1: and since then, Kurt had worked hard to get the
- 21:29Speaker 1: tape into the hands of local tastemakers in the punk
- 21:32Speaker 1: scene who could help him. Not that he'd admit it.
- 21:35Speaker 1: He'd asked for friends' help in circulating the demo and
- 21:37Speaker 1: getting college radio airplay, and in doing so, managed to
- 21:41Speaker 1: snag the interest of a partner at the newly formed
- 21:43Speaker 1: record label Sub Pop. An excited Jonathan Pullman shared the
- 21:48Speaker 1: demo with his less-than-enthusiastic partner, the more business-minded of the two,
- 21:52Speaker 1: Bruce Pavitt. The enterprising duo discussed whether to finance a
- 21:57Speaker 1: single by the scrawny kid who they thought might, on
- 21:59Speaker 1: his best day, someday, maybe approach the coolness of their
- 22:03Speaker 1: label's BMOC, Mark Arm of Mudhoney. So they invited Nirvana
- 22:08Speaker 1: to play one of their sub-pop Sunday shows at The
- 22:10Speaker 1: Vogue in Seattle, where Kurt was told they'd have an
- 22:13Speaker 1: audience of music executives and representatives. Pullman wanted the reaction
- 22:18Speaker 1: of local tastemakers, their positive reaction, in order to justify
- 22:21Speaker 1: signing the On the other end of the phone, Kurt
- 22:24Speaker 1: imagined an adoring crowd, the faces of the members of
- 22:27Speaker 1: Tad and other bands he loved, shining up at him
- 22:29Speaker 1: on stage. He cleared his throat and in his calmest
- 22:32Speaker 1: whatever voice that he could muster said, Sure. Cool. Chris
- 22:39Speaker 1: gave the wheel a sharp turn and pulled into a
- 22:41Speaker 1: lot beside the Vogue. It was late afternoon. Kurt hopped
- 22:45Speaker 1: out to stretch and to check out the building that
- 22:46Speaker 1: had hosted new wave acts and other bands. Bands that
- 22:49Speaker 1: were better than Nirvana. Bands that knew what they were doing.
- 22:53Speaker 1: What if he sucked? He felt the nerves in his stomach,
- 22:56Speaker 1: felt the bile burn his esophagus. He ripped off his
- 23:00Speaker 1: jean jacket, held back his hair and vomited onto the pavement.
- 23:04Speaker 1: Then he sat, head in hands, trying to control his breathing.
- 23:07Speaker 1: His bandmates stood back and waited for him to pull
- 23:10Speaker 1: his shit together. The show itself was kind of a haze.
- 23:15Speaker 1: Kurt couldn't shake his nerves. After soundcheck, they went backstage
- 23:19Speaker 1: assuming the club would fill up as Pullman had promised.
- 23:22Speaker 1: But when they got up to play, they saw their
- 23:24Speaker 1: audience consisted of maybe 10 people, among whom were friends
- 23:27Speaker 1: of friends and maybe one industry person, a DJ. What
- 23:31Speaker 1: the hell? Kurt got shaky again, shaky and angry, deflated, nauseous.
- 23:36Speaker 1: And while the rhythm section held their own through the set,
- 23:38Speaker 1: powering through technical glitches, Kurt hung on by a thread.
- 23:43Speaker 1: He strummed and mumbled lyrics without intensity and with zero
- 23:46Speaker 1: connection to the few people standing in front of the
- 23:48Speaker 1: stage who he occasionally peered at from under the fringe
- 23:50Speaker 1: of his hair. And there was little clapping. There was
- 23:53Speaker 1: no encore. And it was embarrassing. Offstage, and with a
- 23:58Speaker 1: camera pointed at him, Kurt screamed, We sucked! They drove
- 24:04Speaker 1: straight home. In the van, it was quiet. A loop
- 24:06Speaker 1: of the night's disaster played over in Kurt's brain. He
- 24:10Speaker 1: told himself they'd practice more. At least five times a week,
- 24:13Speaker 1: as any real band should. And that he'd write better songs,
- 24:16Speaker 1: great songs. and that they would improve and rule the world,
- 24:19Speaker 1: and if it wasn't with Sub Pop, it would be
- 24:21Speaker 1: with some other label, a better label, without some P.T.
- 24:24Speaker 1: Barnum wannabe in a flannel shirt at the helm. After
- 24:29Speaker 1: the gig, Kurt committed himself. To himself. He drafted a
- 24:34Speaker 1: new band bio. Greetings. We realize that there was once
- 24:37Speaker 1: a 60s band called Nirvana, but don't get us confused
- 24:40Speaker 1: with them because they totally suck big fucking dick. Nirvana
- 24:43Speaker 1: sounds like Black Sabbath playing the knack, Black Flag, Led Zeppelin,
- 24:47Speaker 1: and the Stooges with a pinch of Bay City Rollers.
- 24:50Speaker 1: He rehearsed his answers to future interview questions. Hi, I'm
- 24:55Speaker 1: the moody bohemian member of the group. Blonde, frontman, the
- 24:58Speaker 1: sensitive type. I like pasta, turtles, girls with weird eyes, writing, reading...
- 25:03Speaker 1: keeping my mouth shut, cake decorating, horseback riding, gun cleaning,
- 25:06Speaker 1: Sally Struthers impersonations, piña coladas and getting caught in the rain,
- 25:10Speaker 1: butt fucking, acupuncture, painting, friends, cats, goats, mohair sweaters, cultivating
- 25:14Speaker 1: a fine army of facial blemishes, scarification, blah, blah, blah.
- 25:18Speaker 1: And he wrote letters to his friends and heroes whom
- 25:20Speaker 1: he hoped to befriend. Mark, whoa, Polly Peregrine is my
- 25:25Speaker 1: favorite song of this decade. I've been soaking up the
- 25:27Speaker 1: sounds of the screaming trees for a few months, and
- 25:30Speaker 1: I think it's way better than most. Although in the
- 25:32Speaker 1: pop genre, I like pixies and smithereens a bit better,
- 25:35Speaker 1: but Polly Peregrine, Jesus God, what a complete masterpiece. He
- 25:41Speaker 1: walked around the apartment, unconsciously crafting his nonchalant slouch. His
- 25:45Speaker 1: blue-eyed rock god shrugged toward oblivion. His jeans ripped, his
- 25:49Speaker 1: shirt flannel, his shoes chucks, and his hair dirty. He
- 25:53Speaker 1: calculated to look uncalculated. He cared, but didn't want to
- 25:57Speaker 1: seem to care. He imagined his next time on stage,
- 26:00Speaker 1: he'd get it right. Then the phone rang. It was Pullman.
- 26:05Speaker 1: The single with Sub Pop was on. No shit, Kurt
- 26:09Speaker 1: thought to himself. Of course Pullman and Pavitt loved the show,
- 26:12Speaker 1: and so did the quote-unquote industry execs, and the DJ
- 26:15Speaker 1: from KCMU, and of course whoever was in the crowd
- 26:18Speaker 1: that night that passed as scenesters. In a good mood,
- 26:24Speaker 1: the best mood he'd been in in a long time,
- 26:26Speaker 1: Kurt wrote to his friend Dale Crover, drummer for the Melvins,
- 26:29Speaker 1: to ask for advice slash drop a humble brag that
- 26:32Speaker 1: his band had signed with Sub Pop. It was a
- 26:35Speaker 1: big deal, he casually mentioned. And oh yeah, by the way,
- 26:38Speaker 1: our final name is Nirvana. Tour. The road. This is
- 26:57Speaker 1: where it all happens. The sex, the drugs, the rock
- 27:01Speaker 1: and roll. The making of your myth. For a touring musician,
- 27:05Speaker 1: the road offers plenty. But the reality is that no
- 27:08Speaker 1: matter how many adoring fans you meet or a pure
- 27:10Speaker 1: adolescent release you feel on stage, Being away from home
- 27:14Speaker 1: at some point really starts to suck. Your clothes stink
- 27:18Speaker 1: in ways you didn't imagine possible. You can't find a
- 27:21Speaker 1: decent healthy meal. You're sick and tired of every last
- 27:24Speaker 1: one of your bandmates. You haven't shit right in weeks.
- 27:27Speaker 1: You get poor to no sleep and you crave intimacy.
- 27:30Speaker 1: Real intimacy. The kind that only a significant other, someone
- 27:34Speaker 1: who truly cares for you, can give. This is what
- 27:38Speaker 1: most musicians feel at some point on the road, no
- 27:40Speaker 1: matter how experienced or successful. But as a new band,
- 27:44Speaker 1: making little or no money, you're driving from gig to gig,
- 27:47Speaker 1: playing to small to sometimes non-existent crowds. Sometimes you play
- 27:51Speaker 1: to just the doorman and the bartender, but it's all
- 27:53Speaker 1: good because you're paying your dues, just like Black Flag,
- 27:56Speaker 1: you tell yourself. You try to keep it together, keeping
- 27:59Speaker 1: enough energy in reserve to stay sane, to remember who
- 28:02Speaker 1: you are in civilian life back home. Now imagine that
- 28:06Speaker 1: sense of loneliness with the added shit situation of not
- 28:09Speaker 1: having a real home to go back to once tour
- 28:11Speaker 1: has ended. That's how it felt for Kurt Cobain. On
- 28:16Speaker 1: the road, on stage, he had a hard time controlling
- 28:18Speaker 1: his mood when things went wrong. When there were technical problems,
- 28:22Speaker 1: when the sound on stage didn't match the sound in
- 28:24Speaker 1: his head, he'd get frustrated, angry. He'd let it affect
- 28:28Speaker 1: his performance. Added to that, he missed his girlfriend and
- 28:31Speaker 1: his stomach was a chronic mess that he tried drinking
- 28:34Speaker 1: into a truce with Strawberry Nestle quick. He wanted connection
- 28:38Speaker 1: and attention but had little. All of this took a
- 28:41Speaker 1: toll on him as he toured in 1989 to support
- 28:44Speaker 1: Nirvana's debut album, Bleach. Their European tour with the band
- 28:49Speaker 1: Tad was brutal. 37 shows in 42 days. When there
- 28:54Speaker 1: was enough money to stop in a hotel, Kurt would
- 28:56Speaker 1: often share a room with Tad drummer Kurt Danielson. And
- 28:59Speaker 1: with the lamps low, they'd shoot the shit. One night,
- 29:02Speaker 1: an exhausted Kurt lay back on the soft white comforter,
- 29:05Speaker 1: letting two fluffy white pillows cradle his head and sighed. Fuck,
- 29:09Speaker 1: it was good to lie down. on a real bed.
- 29:13Speaker 1: He and Danielson talked as they often did late into
- 29:15Speaker 1: the night, the pauses between their words getting longer as
- 29:19Speaker 1: they drifted towards sleep. Kurt's mind was on Tracy, how
- 29:23Speaker 1: she was losing patience with the money situation. His thoughts
- 29:27Speaker 1: then shifted to his mother, Wendy. He remembered when he'd
- 29:30Speaker 1: proudly played Nirvana's Love Buzz single for her on Christmas Eve.
- 29:34Speaker 1: She'd been unimpressed and hoped he had a backup plan.
- 29:37Speaker 1: He only let that hurt a little. She loved him, right?
- 29:41Speaker 1: She had to, he thought. He was 22 years old,
- 29:44Speaker 1: but in some ways he was still just a boy.
- 29:47Speaker 1: A boy who was about to go from total obscurity
- 29:50Speaker 1: to super fame. You know, he said to Danielson, I've
- 29:54Speaker 1: wanted to go home since the first week of this tour.
- 29:58Speaker 1: I could go to my mom's right now. She'd let me.
- 30:00Speaker 1: She'd wire me the money. There was a pause. The
- 30:03Speaker 1: pain he felt now wasn't in his gut, but farther up.
- 30:07Speaker 1: A tightness in his chest and throat. She'd have me,
- 30:10Speaker 1: he insisted. She'd have me, you know? Danielson didn't know.
- 30:14Speaker 1: He couldn't tell if Kurt was talking to him or
- 30:16Speaker 1: talking to himself. Whether he was shooting straight or bullshitting.
- 30:20Speaker 1: There are world-class bullshitters out there who are easily recognizable
- 30:24Speaker 1: and repellent. The types of people you don't want to
- 30:26Speaker 1: waste your time with. Then, there are different types of bullshitters.
- 30:30Speaker 1: The type who spin lies, not to hurt or impress you,
- 30:33Speaker 1: but to weave you into the alternate reality they've created
- 30:36Speaker 1: for themselves. Usually, because their reality is too big of
- 30:39Speaker 1: a drag to accept. Kurt Cobain was this type of bullshitter.
- 30:43Speaker 1: You wanted to believe his bullshit as strongly as he did.
- 30:47Speaker 1: But you could seldom tell what was real and what
- 30:49Speaker 1: was myth with Kurt. Nowhere was this more obvious than
- 30:52Speaker 1: within his lyrics, particularly throughout the songs on Nirvana's second album, Nevermind.
- 30:57Speaker 1: The success of Nevermind, Nirvana's first for the major label DGC,
- 31:01Speaker 1: was staggering. In four short months, Nirvana went from releasing
- 31:05Speaker 1: a record their label predicted would have only modest success
- 31:08Speaker 1: to number one on the Billboard charts by January 1992.
- 31:11Speaker 1: The record was propelled by its first single, Smells Like
- 31:15Speaker 1: Teen Spirit, a song which Kurt said was a direct
- 31:18Speaker 1: rip-off of his favorite band, the Pixies. Kurt was being
- 31:22Speaker 1: somewhat disingenuous. In total truth, the song had turned out
- 31:25Speaker 1: to be exactly what he'd set out to write. ultimate
- 31:28Speaker 1: pop song. And Nirvana weren't only bringing fame to themselves.
- 31:32Speaker 1: The success of Nevermind shone a light on the feedback-laden
- 31:35Speaker 1: flannel Seattle scene where they'd come from. And suddenly, all
- 31:39Speaker 1: flights west were jammed with A & R men. Bands
- 31:41Speaker 1: like Mudhoney and Pearl Jam signed to major labels on
- 31:43Speaker 1: Nirvana's coattails. Hollywood got in on the action too. with
- 31:48Speaker 1: movies like Cameron Crowe's highly stylized singles that romanticized Generation
- 31:52Speaker 1: X in the context of Seattle with its coffee shops
- 31:55Speaker 1: and quote-unquote grunge musicians, including Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder and
- 31:59Speaker 1: a host of other disenfranchised characters dressed in cargo shorts
- 32:03Speaker 1: and long johns as they looked for love. Kurt clutched
- 32:07Speaker 1: his gut as things got sillier when grunge music meshed
- 32:10Speaker 1: with mainstream celebrity and fashion. First, bands like Soundgarden and
- 32:15Speaker 1: Alice in Chains went mainstream, In the Lemonheads, Dreamy Evendando
- 32:19Speaker 1: emerged as a grunge heartthrob. On the runways and in
- 32:22Speaker 1: the fashion mags, designers hawked grunge-inspired styles. Flannel layers, cardigans
- 32:27Speaker 1: and ironic t-shirts, slip dresses, baby dolls and ripped tights.
- 32:31Speaker 1: It was all androgyny and heroin chic as gaunt, ethereal
- 32:34Speaker 1: models slouched and posed and scowled like rock stars or
- 32:37Speaker 1: drug addicts. Kurt's anti-fashion had become fashion. The idea that
- 32:43Speaker 1: Kurt Cobain, 5 foot 9 inches of him, 130 pounds
- 32:47Speaker 1: with his ripped jeans and duct tape sneakers, had become
- 32:50Speaker 1: a fashion icon was ridiculous. The ridiculousness didn't stop there.
- 32:55Speaker 1: Kurt's image was blasted across countless magazine covers. His voice
- 32:59Speaker 1: rang out in regular rotation all over the airwaves. Tickets
- 33:03Speaker 1: for his concerts were in high demand. He was in
- 33:06Speaker 1: high demand. DJs, journalists, tastemakers hung on his every word.
- 33:10Speaker 1: He was wanted by everyone. It was a feeling he
- 33:14Speaker 1: could not get used to. Fame has a way of
- 33:16Speaker 1: opening up the world, but for Kurt, it seemed that
- 33:19Speaker 1: for every door that opened, another two would close. Old,
- 33:22Speaker 1: familiar rituals were no longer possible. Kurt couldn't just pop
- 33:26Speaker 1: into a record store. Hell, he couldn't even pop into
- 33:28Speaker 1: the local 7-Eleven for a pack of smokes. He'd be recognized, accosted.
- 33:33Speaker 1: He didn't mind the real fans, but it was the
- 33:35Speaker 1: new legion of fly-by-night fans, the Meatheads and Johnny-come-latelys who
- 33:39Speaker 1: didn't know the Melvins from the Munsters that bothered him.
- 33:43Speaker 1: Kurt could see one now, no, two, outside the window
- 33:46Speaker 1: of the 7-Eleven he was currently wandering around in. He
- 33:49Speaker 1: was looking for Strawberry Quick, and they were looking through
- 33:52Speaker 1: the window at what the magazines called the new voice
- 33:54Speaker 1: of a generation, and hoping for an autograph or worse,
- 33:57Speaker 1: Kurt thought, conversation. They were big, northwestern lumberjack types. As
- 34:03Speaker 1: they approached, Kurt seemed to recognize one of He was older,
- 34:07Speaker 1: and of the two had the fuller mustache. His hair,
- 34:10Speaker 1: parted in the middle, feathered on the sides, screamed 1981
- 34:13Speaker 1: in a way that his Red Hot Chili Peppers t-shirt
- 34:16Speaker 1: did not. Kurt turned on the heels of his Chuck
- 34:19Speaker 1: Taylors and walked straight for the magazine rack. He picked
- 34:22Speaker 1: up the first mag he could reach, People Magazine, the
- 34:25Speaker 1: one with Nick Nolte, the so-called sexiest man alive on
- 34:28Speaker 1: the cover, and buried his face in its pages to
- 34:30Speaker 1: throw the meatheads off the scent, or at least give
- 34:33Speaker 1: them the impression that Kurt didn't want to talk. And
- 34:35Speaker 1: he began reading the article on Nolte. Supposedly, Nick was
- 34:39Speaker 1: the strong, sensitive type. A man's man. The kind that
- 34:42Speaker 1: women couldn't resist. And Kurt Cobain was at least one
- 34:46Speaker 1: of those things. Sensitive. The sight of the dude with
- 34:49Speaker 1: the feathered hair jarred his memory and brought back to
- 34:52Speaker 1: him again the details from his arrest in Aberdeen back
- 34:55Speaker 1: in 1986. Sensitive as he was, the pain of that night,
- 34:59Speaker 1: more specifically the shame of it, coupled with the embarrassment
- 35:02Speaker 1: of being recognized in the moment, had his stomach in knots.
- 35:06Speaker 1: The feathered hair and the mustache, and that was it.
- 35:09Speaker 1: The cop. The arresting officer. More memories bashed his heart
- 35:14Speaker 1: up into his throat. The feeling of the cuffs on
- 35:16Speaker 1: his wrists, the ache in his cheekbone from having his
- 35:19Speaker 1: face slammed onto the hood of the cruiser. The smell
- 35:21Speaker 1: of spray paint for the can of Krylon. Mr. Feathered
- 35:25Speaker 1: Hair seemed bigger then. Maybe the uniform had something to
- 35:28Speaker 1: do with it. It was for sure more authoritative than
- 35:30Speaker 1: the red hot chili pepper shirt he was wearing now.
- 35:33Speaker 1: Big or not, Kurt couldn't help but remember how mean
- 35:36Speaker 1: the dude was. He had no tolerance for Kurt's kind,
- 35:39Speaker 1: and the look in his eyes said that he'd rather
- 35:41Speaker 1: be beating the tar out of Kurt than reading him
- 35:43Speaker 1: his rights. The cop couldn't have been a couple years
- 35:46Speaker 1: older than Kurt, but he clearly hated him. And Kurt
- 35:50Speaker 1: hated him right back. And they both had their reasons.
- 35:53Speaker 1: For Kurt, it was self-preservation. For the cop, it was disrespect,
- 35:57Speaker 1: something Kurt had in spades. Disrespect for authority, for society,
- 36:01Speaker 1: and for his elders. Why should he respect them? They
- 36:04Speaker 1: were never there for him. He was alone, on his own.
- 36:07Speaker 1: The only thing that ever showed up for Kurt Cobain
- 36:10Speaker 1: was music, more specifically punk rock. But what was more
- 36:14Speaker 1: punk than spray painting God is Gay on a public wall?
- 36:18Speaker 1: But Kurt was caught red-handed, and he was off to jail,
- 36:20Speaker 1: or at the time, he thought he'd rot away forever,
- 36:23Speaker 1: without anyone to call to come bail him out.
- 36:26Speaker 2: Mr.
- 36:26Speaker 1: Feathered Hair snapped Kurt out of it.' Hey, you're Nirvana. Hey, look,
- 36:31Speaker 1: it's Nirvana!' Hey Nirvana, sign my pack of smokes. Kurt
- 36:35Speaker 1: recognized the voice. At least he thought he did. Aberdeen
- 36:38Speaker 1: meatheads all kind of looked the same. Maybe it was
- 36:41Speaker 1: his imagination that made the connection. This so-called fan in
- 36:44Speaker 1: the here and now. Was it possible that he was
- 36:47Speaker 1: the same cop that locked him up six years ago?
- 36:50Speaker 1: The irony was too much for Kurt. He turned his stomach,
- 36:53Speaker 1: grabbed the pen, ripped off the cellophane from the pack
- 36:56Speaker 1: of Marlboro Reds. signed Mr. Feathered Hair's box of smokes
- 36:59Speaker 1: with an illegible scribble and walked fast out the door.
- 37:05Speaker 1: Kurt had what he wanted, success, but it was not
- 37:07Speaker 1: what he expected. With the help of MTV and the
- 37:10Speaker 1: strength of the surreal and captivating video for Smells Like
- 37:13Speaker 1: Teen Spirit, his band had become so popular, so mainstream,
- 37:17Speaker 1: that now, the same log-headed, mustachioed rednecks who beat him
- 37:21Speaker 1: up and ridiculed him back in Aberdeen, to Kurt, all
- 37:24Speaker 1: different versions of his mother's ex-boyfriends, were now, card-carrying members
- 37:28Speaker 1: of the Nirvana fan club. What the fuck? You spend
- 37:33Speaker 1: your life as an outsider, thoroughly unwanted by almost everyone.
- 37:38Speaker 1: Your parents don't want you. Your school doesn't want you.
- 37:41Speaker 1: You have few friends. You don't fit in and you're ridiculed,
- 37:44Speaker 1: so you turn inward. But there's always music. It's inside
- 37:47Speaker 1: of you and outside of you. It's punk rock and
- 37:50Speaker 1: it's freedoms. You hole up in your room or at
- 37:52Speaker 1: your friend's house where you're crashing, consuming culture that is
- 37:55Speaker 1: cast off by most kids. You read Burroughs and Bukowski.
- 37:59Speaker 1: You listen to Bad Brains and Black Flag and The
- 38:01Speaker 1: Beatles and Black Sabbath, and somehow you feel yourself reflected back.
- 38:06Speaker 1: There are others like you, other punks who live music,
- 38:09Speaker 1: a loose-knit crew of outsiders. So maybe you're not so alone.
- 38:12Speaker 1: You have kin, and you find freedom and connection, find
- 38:15Speaker 1: a path for yourself, a way out. Music. You immerse
- 38:19Speaker 1: yourself so fully in it and everything else that you love,
- 38:22Speaker 1: horror movies, cartoons, comics, you love it all because it's dependable, stable.
- 38:28Speaker 1: It can't kick you out. You find a couple of
- 38:30Speaker 1: kids you think you're cool enough to play music with
- 38:32Speaker 1: and you jam. Then you play some shows and suddenly,
- 38:35Speaker 1: through the powers of repetition, osmosis, and just fucking doing it,
- 38:39Speaker 1: everything you've ingested, all the seven inches in comic books
- 38:42Speaker 1: and classic rock cassettes and horror movies, all of it
- 38:45Speaker 1: comes out in a semi-formed voice that is uniquely you.
- 38:49Speaker 1: Your music starts to get out into the world and
- 38:51Speaker 1: you wake up one day and you learn that you
- 38:53Speaker 1: aren't the only one. There are millions of other disaffected
- 38:56Speaker 1: kids who feel the same as you. And you've given
- 38:58Speaker 1: them a voice. You've set it to a beat that is,
- 39:01Speaker 1: almost by accident, unique. You've become the zeitgeist. Everyone is
- 39:05Speaker 1: picking up what you're putting down. Even the people who
- 39:07Speaker 1: you despise. Who drove you into your corner to create
- 39:10Speaker 1: what you created in the first place. The jocks, the squares,
- 39:14Speaker 1: the Mr. Mustaches and Tree Fuck Johnsons. All of them
- 39:17Speaker 1: are into you, and they like to sing along, but
- 39:19Speaker 1: they know not what it means. They've given you everything,
- 39:22Speaker 1: but what you really need is someone, someone to let
- 39:25Speaker 1: you collapse into, who will listen, who will protect you,
- 39:29Speaker 1: someone to love, who will love you back. You need
- 39:32Speaker 1: somewhere to go to lay your heavy head. You need
- 39:35Speaker 1: a home and someone to make it with. Otherwise, look out, Oblivion,
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- 40:53Speaker 1: Rock and roll up. He's a bad, bad man. Hey guys,
- 41:00Speaker 1: thanks for checking out this Rewind episode of Disgraceland on Nirvana.
- 41:02Speaker 1: That was part one. Part two comes up right now.