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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, April 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jack Bars, Did you go Jack Jack Wars? Did you
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  Speaker 1: Jack Bars? Finding sex? Steps to John shows it actually
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  Speaker 1: Jack Wars Drive A Time starts right now, Happy Tuesday Morning.
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  Speaker 1: Jad Wars Drive Time becoming live from everyone Else's house
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  Speaker 1: does have a bit of a change of scenery here
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  Speaker 1: changes scenery with John rolling stones poster behind Dog Dog.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. Crazy That is April fourteenth. One crazy
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  Speaker 1: that and a little more than a week is the
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  Speaker 1: NFL Draft. And we were talking before the show, guys
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  Speaker 1: almost at times so like it's taken so long to
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  Speaker 1: get here, But when you say it's so weak away,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, wow, that came fast. Well, I just think
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  Speaker 1: the pace of life is slowed down for so many
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  Speaker 1: of us that it doesn't This doesn't feel like the
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  Speaker 1: longest part of the way. I mean normally, as we're
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  Speaker 1: going through the process of um play or visits of
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  Speaker 1: pro days, I mean, it's just it's a slog to
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  Speaker 1: get to the end of April. But right now the
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  Speaker 1: rest of life has become a slog. This doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: to be the focus of it anymore. Yeah, you guys
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  Speaker 1: going through it. I'm going through I feel like the
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  Speaker 1: weeks are going by in a blank, and yet my
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  Speaker 1: wife and I were talking this weekend at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like they're dragging. It feels like we're in
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  Speaker 1: this weird time, and I almost feel like the draft
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  Speaker 1: is the same. We have been writing stories on it,
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  Speaker 1: Brian and I have been analyzing it in text version online,
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  Speaker 1: and because there's no interaction with anybody else, it all
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  Speaker 1: sort of runs together. And yet here we are eight
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  Speaker 1: or nine days away to the point where now we've
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  Speaker 1: got to start planning this thing, talking to we're going
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  Speaker 1: to cover it. I mean, it's upon us, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you know the Jaguars personnel people are sort of
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  Speaker 1: going through the same thing, although I think they'll be
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  Speaker 1: ready for various reasons. I think a good way to
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  Speaker 1: say is it feels like every day is Saturday. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it does. Ye plast four weeks, every day is Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: except when you have to work all day because then
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't, which we've been grinding, right, boys, that's right,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, all right. So this week we really only
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  Speaker 1: have one big thing because we figured anything else we
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  Speaker 1: talked about this topic is gonna trumpet. During last week's show,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't know what the NFL's decision was going to
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  Speaker 1: be about the draft. After the show, we found out
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  Speaker 1: everything is completely virtual. There's no war room, there's no
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  Speaker 1: small groups together. Scouts are separate, Dave Cadwell separate, Doug
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  Speaker 1: Morone is separate. Everyone's drafting from their own home. Have
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  Speaker 1: to really rely on technology. As of right now, we
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  Speaker 1: know that i T installed four compute, the screen, speaker phones,
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  Speaker 1: and Doug ronan Dave cod Woll's house. And I can't
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  Speaker 1: help but think, when we were talking about the show,
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  Speaker 1: how is that gonna work? When you're so used to
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  Speaker 1: being together in a group in a war room, one room,
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  Speaker 1: one phone. Now you have to rely on everything else.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I would think it's gonna have to take
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  Speaker 1: practice rounds twenty a lot. Here's my idea to make
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  Speaker 1: this thing really interesting. Okay, make the gms all set
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  Speaker 1: up their own technology for this thing, and then have
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  Speaker 1: a GoPro in there and watch the highlights, watch stuff
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  Speaker 1: get thrown around the rooms, watch stuff you know, and
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  Speaker 1: whoever's the best at I T. If your stuff messes up,
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  Speaker 1: you go onto the next kick. You'll lose it. Now
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  Speaker 1: that would be a draft looking for drama, right, I
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  Speaker 1: mean that is real life TV. Have a time, John,
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  Speaker 1: It's safe to say that we're pretty sure Dave cobble On, Dougrown,
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  Speaker 1: and Scouting are not setting up their own WiFi. If so,
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  Speaker 1: they might be in trouble. Props to the Jaguars I
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  Speaker 1: T people, because they are working very hard to make
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  Speaker 1: sure this goes perfectly well. I'm thinking on a serious note, Brime. Sorry, Um,
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  Speaker 1: There's no question in a common year they go through
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  Speaker 1: all sorts of mock drafts, mock draft scenarios. They spend
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  Speaker 1: weeks after their draft board is set figuring out the
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  Speaker 1: logistics of the draft in terms of how they think
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  Speaker 1: guys will come off the board. I'm sure they will
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  Speaker 1: still do that, Brian, But at the same time, I've
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  Speaker 1: got to think there's gonna be a couple of days
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  Speaker 1: that is dedicated to making sure this zoom technology works,
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  Speaker 1: making sure Okay, with a minute before the pick or
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  Speaker 1: twenty minutes for the pick, we're on the clock with
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  Speaker 1: this group of people, talk and then I'm talking to Doug,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm talking to this They will have a system
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  Speaker 1: in place, I'm sure. I just think by the time
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  Speaker 1: they get to it, I don't think logistically is going
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  Speaker 1: to be near the headache, and some people are worrying about, well,
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  Speaker 1: the number of trades is going to be interesting because
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  Speaker 1: the the ability to communicate back and forth. I you
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  Speaker 1: see all the mock drafts now is we're getting to
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  Speaker 1: the end of mock draft season. Everyone's mixing trades in
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  Speaker 1: and their ideas for value and who goes where. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: at some point that could become nullified by technology. I think,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm doing this and and I'm the general manager,
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  Speaker 1: I have a separate mock draft where it's just me
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  Speaker 1: and the coach, right, none of the scouts, no one else,
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  Speaker 1: just assuming everything breaks down, who are the players that
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  Speaker 1: we want. I have my own sideboard over here with
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  Speaker 1: the players that I really want, and I work with
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  Speaker 1: Doug and I say, all right, Doug, it's just you
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  Speaker 1: and me. We can't have everyone else. I'm gonna trust
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  Speaker 1: the grades that my team put together. Who do you want?
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  Speaker 1: And it's just gonna be that. I mean, at some
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  Speaker 1: point you have to plan for everything breaking down and
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  Speaker 1: it just being the general manager or just being the
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  Speaker 1: coach and either one of them being able to execute.
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  Speaker 1: And remember a lot of what happens during the draft
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  Speaker 1: happens when teams aren't on the clock, so there's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be you know, the jailors have a lot of picks,
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  Speaker 1: and their time off the clock is a little cramped
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  Speaker 1: at times, but it's not as if they're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: trying to discuss and all of a sudden they get
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  Speaker 1: done with their fourth round pick and they've got an
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  Speaker 1: hour and a half before their fifth round pick, and
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  Speaker 1: at that point they'll all be on zoom with the scouts. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: we like these guys. We like these guys. Here's our
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  Speaker 1: list of fifteen guys that watch them come off the board. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I think that time between picks, my guests, his trades.
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  Speaker 1: There may not be a lot of people talking trade
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  Speaker 1: when they're five minutes are on the clock in the
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  Speaker 1: fifth round, but they'll have talked trade scenarios in the
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  Speaker 1: hour and twenty minutes between their pick. Yeah. Interesting that
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  Speaker 1: Ian Rappapore just tweeted about an hour ago, right before
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  Speaker 1: we started filming this live show, that they're going to
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  Speaker 1: have a separate phone line all gms while the same
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  Speaker 1: phone everse specific for trade. So you really only called
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  Speaker 1: that one phone line unless it's specific to a trade.
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  Speaker 1: And he also tweeted out We have the tweet up
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  Speaker 1: right now that they're gonna do a practice mock draft
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  Speaker 1: zoom with all gms next week, So all thirty two
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  Speaker 1: GM will be on a zoom call and they will
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  Speaker 1: do a practice virtual mock draft. What if you're the
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  Speaker 1: one guy who screws up and gives away your pick? Right? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: What you talking? You're picking? Oh? Man, I thought this
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  Speaker 1: was real. I just think that in the end they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to go slow with this. I mean
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes is ten minutes. But they're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: go wait, hold on, They're gonna have to work at it.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, you're gonna have to be they have
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  Speaker 1: to listen to one another, and then they're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to be able to say, you know what, hold on
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  Speaker 1: their pick was on the way, we're having trouble with
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  Speaker 1: the computer over here. I think all the viewers will
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  Speaker 1: be understanding of any technical glitches, and so I think
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  Speaker 1: they should be real and not trying to make it
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  Speaker 1: seem like you know, the duck right paddling like hell
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  Speaker 1: under the water. To stay afloat and look calm. If
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  Speaker 1: there's a little bit of trouble, there's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of trouble. I don't I don't think that's wrong for
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  Speaker 1: the broadcast. Yeah, and it's not only just the draft.
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  Speaker 1: Dog Man was telling us last week how much this
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  Speaker 1: whole process has changed. Now. It's almost like back in
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  Speaker 1: his days in Syracuse with the really strict n C
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  Speaker 1: double A rules. As of right now, they can only
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  Speaker 1: interview three people during the week. It's on FaceTime, he said,
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  Speaker 1: it's almost it's difficult because in a live interview in person,
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  Speaker 1: you get the body language, feel on the phone, it's
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  Speaker 1: just not the same things. So it really stresses how
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  Speaker 1: important the NFL Combine interviews are. They had forty five
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  Speaker 1: of those. Those interviews now are crucial because that's really
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  Speaker 1: what banking off of right now. It also stresses the
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  Speaker 1: relationship that you have with your individual area scouts. You really,
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  Speaker 1: at some point you really have to trust them. Not
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  Speaker 1: up high, everybody's gonna understand who belongs, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: the first sixty or a hundred picks. But when you
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  Speaker 1: start getting into the fourth round where you've got three
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  Speaker 1: picks and those guys are gonna be leaned onto the
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  Speaker 1: starters this year, then when you say, look, we like
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  Speaker 1: this guy from L s U or this guy from Nebraska,
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  Speaker 1: whoever the scout is that did all the work on
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  Speaker 1: that player that watched him on. Okay, Dave Caldwell and
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  Speaker 1: every other general manager is gonna have to trust his
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  Speaker 1: scouting staff and trust that they did the work. And
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  Speaker 1: even beyond that, Brian, beyond the on the field element
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  Speaker 1: of that, that's where you really have to rely on
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  Speaker 1: the area scout to tell you, Hey, is this guy
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  Speaker 1: a good guy or not? What have you heard from coaches?
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  Speaker 1: What have you heard from other people around the program.
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  Speaker 1: These scouts are tied in on that level. Um, the
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  Speaker 1: GM in a lot of cases will not have had
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  Speaker 1: that opportuny tune you're the head coach to sit across
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  Speaker 1: to have lunch with the guy up on on the
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  Speaker 1: second floor like we see all the time. They won't
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  Speaker 1: have that opportunity. So it'll be more up to the
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  Speaker 1: scout where Dave calls the scout from Iowa and says, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting ready to draft this kid. What do you
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  Speaker 1: hear about him? Does he love ball? Does he you know?
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  Speaker 1: All those things that you would like a comfort level
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  Speaker 1: from a conversation. That's gonna be where those guys really
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  Speaker 1: are in their money and that's okay because those guys
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  Speaker 1: are tied into their school like nobody else is. Absolutely well.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk much more about this on next Tuesday show
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  Speaker 1: right before the draft. Very interesting how that's gonna play
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  Speaker 1: week away from the NFL Draft, and we have been
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  Speaker 1: looking at mock draft since January and it is crazy
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  Speaker 1: to see how much it has changed. And Guys, I
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  Speaker 1: was looking the other day and it started. Everyone kind
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  Speaker 1: of thought everyone was gonna take Derek Brown and put
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars at nine. But now everyone has different opinions, and
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  Speaker 1: you see how much it changes. There is one unanimous option,
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  Speaker 1: and right after the combine, everyone goes completely different directions. Well, John,
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  Speaker 1: I wrote in our Quick Thoughts last week, I thought
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars were the most difficult team to to be
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  Speaker 1: able to say I know exactly what they're gonna do,
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  Speaker 1: because they're sitting at nine with the coach and a
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  Speaker 1: general manager that everyone assumes here under the win or
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  Speaker 1: you get fired right whin now, And yet the moves
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  Speaker 1: they've made trading a j boy a Calais Campbell are
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  Speaker 1: all moves made with the long view in mind. So
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out what the Jaguars are going to
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  Speaker 1: do at number nine, I mean, anybody who tells you
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  Speaker 1: that they know you know, they're just guessing. Because Dave called, well,
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  Speaker 1: if you recall what you don't recall because you were
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  Speaker 1: here at that point in everybody had Khalil Mack and
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  Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. Is the Jaguars obvious choices. They needed pass rusher,
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  Speaker 1: they needed wide receiver, and out of the blue, he
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  Speaker 1: chose Blake Bortles. And he said at that time, John,
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  Speaker 1: and I know you remember this because you were sitting
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  Speaker 1: next to me. I didn't even tell my wife. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't even clue in the owner and the coach until
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  Speaker 1: the day before at draft. He kept it way under rest.
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  Speaker 1: So no one knows what Dave is going to do.
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  Speaker 1: Anything is possible. And I think that's what the selections
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  Speaker 1: in the mock drafts that you chose indicating yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: I get a lot of emails from people complaining, sort
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  Speaker 1: of pre complaining if you will, well, how could they
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  Speaker 1: keep Dave called well because he's gonna make picks to
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  Speaker 1: win now and he's gonna picks to And my response
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  Speaker 1: has been, well, he hasn't acted like that the entire
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  Speaker 1: offseason yet, so what makes you think he's gonna act
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  Speaker 1: like that during the draft. So far, he has acted
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  Speaker 1: like a GM that anybody who wants the future of
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  Speaker 1: this franchise to be bright, who wants him to be
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  Speaker 1: laying down a foundation. That's how he's drafted. And I
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  Speaker 1: think people forget that a lot of times, your board
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  Speaker 1: dictates what you do, meaning at number nine, Uh, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that they're going to lean towards taking left tackle,
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  Speaker 1: for example, But if the left tackle on the board
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  Speaker 1: is so other worldly good and better than the rest,
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  Speaker 1: then I can certainly see them doing that. So I
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  Speaker 1: think as much as people want to say, well, here's
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  Speaker 1: what Dave is gonna do, some of it will depend
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  Speaker 1: on what's off the board beforehand. And much like last
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  Speaker 1: year Brian, nobody had them taken Josh Allen because they
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  Speaker 1: think he'd slipped, But that wasn't a need pick, that
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  Speaker 1: was a value future pick. So I don't worry about
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  Speaker 1: that with Dave. Well, and I have to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: I was doing a radio show from somewhere on the
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  Speaker 1: West coast, standing in the studio one morning into February
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  Speaker 1: and I and I was explaining that very point, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want this team to lose the long view even
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  Speaker 1: though they're keeping the pad, and he stuck his head
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  Speaker 1: in and said, And I thought, okay. I mean he
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  Speaker 1: was telling me I'm not losing the long view on
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  Speaker 1: this thing, even though everyone else thinks my job is
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  Speaker 1: in jeopardy this year if I don't win this year.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of like that approach. It was brashing him
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  Speaker 1: to stick his head in there and say it, and
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciated it. I liked it that always walking
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  Speaker 1: down the hallway, you never know who's listening. Brian, Well,
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  Speaker 1: you don't. And the other thing is is that I
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  Speaker 1: think Dave understands that good general managers always have the
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  Speaker 1: macro view, right. The micro is the coach. The coach
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  Speaker 1: has to think day to day, game to game, in
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  Speaker 1: practice to practice even but good general managers stay in
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  Speaker 1: their position because they're always looking at Josh Allen. They
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  Speaker 1: could have taken t J. Hockenson. It would have fit need.
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  Speaker 1: He was a good player. But then he's a premium
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  Speaker 1: position player. If you pass on that, it will make
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  Speaker 1: you look silly. You can't do that. Always get the
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  Speaker 1: best available player. They've got the long view in mind.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know what Shod Khan told Doug or Dave,
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  Speaker 1: but so far it appears if everyone's on the same
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  Speaker 1: page that they're thinking about the president and the future.
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  Speaker 1: Never take your eye off the long view. Not in
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  Speaker 1: this game. No, absolutely, All right, let's look at four
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  Speaker 1: trusted draft analysts their current mock draft. Daniel Jeremiah, mackay Beckton,
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  Speaker 1: a few people picking him to go to the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: at nine. Todd McShay, Justin Herbert, interesting there, mel Kiper
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  Speaker 1: from ESPN, Javon Kinloch kind of what most people are
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  Speaker 1: saying the past few months. And finally, Bucky book brooks
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  Speaker 1: our friend Jeff Okuda out of Ohio State, And I
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: want to start with Daniel Jeremiah because he was saying
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I was reading his Twitter comments about McKay Beckton. He said,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: along with him and Quentin Nelson, they are the best
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: run game options since he has started in two thousand
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and three. Well, if you're telling me that Beckton is
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Quenton Nelson, and I to watch Quentin Nelson play like
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I used to love watching Tony Basselli play. And who says, well,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I love watching this center or this left tackle or
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: this right guard play. No one does, because you're talking
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: about a game built on quarterbacks and receivers and pass
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: rushers and corners. If Beckton is that kind of player,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: and I've seen a little bit of tape on him,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: if he's that kind of guy, I'm happy with that pick. Yeah,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: he makes sense. I've I've said since January when I
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: spoke to Dave Caldwell and Devin Marons echoed it. I
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: don't think they dislike the current offensive line the way
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of fans do, so I don't think offensive
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: line is something they feel pressured to take. But if
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: dar Browns off the board, if a coup is off
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the board, if if guys they like or off the
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: board and Beckton falls to and I think most people
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: think that would be a fall, then that feels to
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: me like Josh Allen, except on the offensive tackle. I mean,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: a guy who slips and you can't afford to pass
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: him up. Premium position. Left tackle is one of the five. Yeah,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see if it ends up being
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: where Beckton and Javan kin Law are both there as
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: an option, which one do you take? Because we've seen
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: both sides there and they definitely at least in for
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: agency to focus more on defense. So then does that
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: change going into the draft? I said from the very
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: beginning that if you took the best big guy on
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: offense and the best big guy on defense, what would
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: be wrong with that? I mean, neither the offense or
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: the defensive line is so overpoweringly good that you couldn't
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: afford to get better. So if it's kin Law or
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: if it's Beckton, or if they were both at nine
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and twenty, hey, I'm in Big guys are where the
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: game is one and lost up. It feels like the
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: tougher call would be if it was Beckton and Brown.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Most people have kin Law a little below Brown. If
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: it's Beckton and Derek Brown, then it feels like you're
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: talking about too like rated players, whereas kin Law as
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: a touch below. I think you would take Beckton over
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: kin Law. That's just a guess. Well, that's where the
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: scenario that you're describing, where you have Beckton and Brown,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: that's where where talent where grade and need meat where
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: best available player. If they're both really similar, then you
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: get to choose, you know, the guy who helps you immediately.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Now the curveball here, and I go back to last
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: year when they were talking about wide receiver class and
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: they kept saying all offseason Doug and Dave said, you know,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: we like the way our wide receivers are. That's been
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the same message this offseason with offensive line. So I
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: can't help but think a Jerry Judy, one of those big,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: prominent past catching wide receivers, is there at nine. I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: could see them taking that as well, because they really
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: have said good things about the offensive liness offseason. Yeah maybe, Brian.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I'm just so locked into them needing defensive tackle, them
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: needing to improve the defense, that it's hard for me
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: to see a receiver at nine when there's so many
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: in this draft. As soon as I say that, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I've said that often in the last couple of weeks,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I think back to Doug Morone a couple of weeks
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: back talking about needing skill guys, needing skill guys, and
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: this team needs to figure out how to make big
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: plays and how to get in touchdown. So I wouldn't
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: necessarily lean towards Judy or the best wide receiver at nine.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: But there's something in the back of my mind that
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: keeps on thinking about how these guys are talking that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: agrees with schlenn and I wouldn't be a stunned with
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the receiver in the top ten as I normally would be. Well, look, um,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to Dave Caldwell and Blake Bordles. None
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of us saw it coming, so I was surprised to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: see it coming. Now. The other thing I can't get
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: away from when it comes to receiver in the first round,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: even though it's a deep draft for them, is that
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: if they're all in on Gardner Minshew, if they really
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: truly want him to win the job and to be
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the man, you've got to give him more weapons and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Jerry Judy would immediately make Minshew a better quarterback or yeah.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: And when they they say about this class of receivers
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: is it's a deep class, but it's not loaded with
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: special it's not loaded with Calvin Johnson types, which no
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: draft is. And they say there's not even really that
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: level of guy. But there is a school of thought
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: if you love a guy, if you think he's special,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: don't wait in the second round and just get a
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: guy that you like. So I'm with you, Brian. This
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: is his hard a first round to predict his because
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I can imagine with Dave calledwell because I don't think
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: he's tipped his hand at all, and it wouldn't shock
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: me if he picked somebody that we're not even talking
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: about today. I read Peter King's column this morning. I
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: bet you did too, where he he alluded that a
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: friend of Dave called Wells told him they're not leaning
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: towards quarterback in the first round, and I laughed out loud. Hey,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Peter King is a person of great esteem. He has
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: great sources, but he has forgotten that Dave doesn't tell
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: anybody anything. Friends of Dave don't even necessarily know what
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: he's doing. All right, Well, that is our mock draft tracker.
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  Speaker 1: No surprise. We're still talking about Unique and go Quay
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  Speaker 1: and the ozone mail vague. We go all the ways
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  Speaker 1: with Atlanta Georgia. Manny, how likely do you believe the
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  Speaker 1: comes for defensive and Unique and got Way. He's predicting
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  Speaker 1: high second and a third. Yeah, and uh, I get
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  Speaker 1: so many questions about Unique. Obviously they all sort of
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  Speaker 1: run together. I don't think they pursued Clowney for a
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  Speaker 1: number of reasons. A because the timing is too difficult
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  Speaker 1: to work out on that. And I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: are trying to trade in goc Way. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they would trade him for a second round pick. You know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: their inclination is not to trade him. They want him
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: playing here. And uh, I just don't see. I don't
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: see Clowney is an option. And I'm just not sure
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  Speaker 1: when people talk to me about what would they take?
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  Speaker 1: What are they trying to get. It's a matter if
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: somebody's got to blow him out of the water for it,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't get the idea of briand that they
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  Speaker 1: are actively making calls trying to make something happen. So
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  Speaker 1: for them to take something isn't really the thing. It
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  Speaker 1: would have to be a wow, we can't We would
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  Speaker 1: be negligent if we didn't do this. It would take
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: that kind of a deal. I had someone say to
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  Speaker 1: me that the reason that in Gookway has been so
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  Speaker 1: forward in his social media and in the interview on
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  Speaker 1: ESPN last week is he's trying to create a market.
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  Speaker 1: He's trying to create the sort of momentum that he's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the next big lynchpin in terms of guys getting traded.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Because from people that I talked to, they don't hear
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: anything about where he's going or teams that are interested
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: in him. They think that that's the player and the
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: player agent wisely on their part, trying to create a
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: marketplace for them. I I would say no interest in
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Clowney whatsoever. And I say that as a I'm a
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: big fan of Jadeveon Clowney. I remember two years ago
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: when he and uh J J Watt were both healthy
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and how destructive he was in the middle of the field.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, you just couldn't stop the guy. He didn't
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: come down with a ton of sacks. In fact, he's
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: only ever had I think his career best in a
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: single season is nine nine and a half something like that. Um.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: He's not the edge rusher than got Ways, but he's
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: so big, strong, long, I mean really long arms. He
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: makes things happen all over the field. WOULD love to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: have a player like that, but that feels like a
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: win now. And Clowney has said he only wants to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: go somewhere where he has a chance to compete for
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: a championship now. Um, which is why I don't think
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: he's shown a lot of interest in Cleveland. Uh, And
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: that thing came up last week. So I don't know
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that it would fit on either side for Gendavan Clowny
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: to be the guy. I kind of get while you're asking,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: because you see the seventeen eighteen million that would be
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: vacated by in Godway's franchise tag and think, well, that's
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: what Clowney reportedly is now willing to take. But I
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: don't think it fits. Yeah, that is I haven't gotten
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a sense that the markets out there for somebody to
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: give up a one and to give up the twenty
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: million dollar market setting money. I just think people look
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: at that and say, boy, that tags too high. H
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: it's just too much. I thought I've never thought he
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: was going to garner you a one. I just didn't
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: see it. Maybe the two and the d board scenario,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: but especially a player is vocal and emotional as in
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Gokway has been on this issue. Has removed some of
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the leverage that the Jaguars had because teams think, you know,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to give something up. Well, that's true.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I mean that's up to Mr you know, Mr Khan
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and Dave and that. But I just never thought that
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: they were going to get one. I saw the d
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Ford or even the clowney thing is being more likely
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: for them. All right, let's go to Mike Gardner Minshew
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: a Blake portals level we got right here. Is Gardner
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Minshew doing all offseason training like Blake Bortles did or
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: is he just flying with the Thunderbirds and make himself
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the Jaguar KEI seems like he's spending all his time
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: marketing himself. Uh, Mike, I disagree. If you've been watching
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Instagram and so some media, that guy's working hard for sure.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yet I don't worry about that with Gardner Minshew. He
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: post on Instagram and he knows how to do the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: social thing for impact. He knows what his brand is,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: he knows his stick. But you know, posting one Instagram
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and himself with a tiger does not prevence you from work.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: And if I won't worry about anything with Gardner, it's
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: not his ability to work. There is a bit of
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I think there's a perception sometimes because he's such a
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: fun guy. I think people who aren't paying attention to
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: him might have the feeling that this reader does of well,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: he's just out, he's having a good time. Brian. Everything
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I've heard is that if he fails as a quarterback,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: it won't be because of his approach off the field. Well,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: he has a long time quarterback coach, much like Bordles did.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Bordles what to San Diego to work. He goes down
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to South Florida and works out with them, who I
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: heard an interview on a podcast with last year after
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: they grabbed him and then after he got into the
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: lineup and has only talked about his intellect, about his
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: work ethic. I don't think there's any question that he's
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: out there working with respective fund. Ken Stabler was fun
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: and Ken Stabler is a Hall of Fame quarterback. So
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: if it works for Ken Stabler to be fun or
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: it worked, I should say for him to be fun.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I have no problem with with Gardner putting stuff on Instagram,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and as you said, it's fun. It's why people like
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: him so much. All I hear and and and read
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: is that he's down in South Florida working with this guy.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: And by the way, he's had him since he was
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: in college. I think he carried him two or three
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: of the schools that he went to, So he's had
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: a long time relationship with that quarterbacks coach down in Naples. Yeah,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: worry not on that track. Worry not. Yeah. Actually I
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: follow that quarterback coach on social media and he posts
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: daily videos of Gardner flipping tires doing all these crazy
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: workout drills now that the gym is closed, so uh,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: definitely working hard. But I do agree with you there.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like the perception at times, if you don't
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: know Gardner, you could see that how that could be
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: taken lightly, but I think what's a little week was
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Dave Cod while saying he has the opera tun to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: take advantage of this, and we all know he's gonna
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: take advantage of this opportunity right now. He's the number
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: one guy, Go get it the RV. You know that,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the Thunderbirds, the whole nine yards. I mean, he plays
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: to it. But as long as you're working, what's the
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: old saying, work hard, play hard, right? I know we're
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: short on time, but it's always It's always been interesting
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: to me whenever Doug Marrone talks about mint shoot, he
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: acknowledges the outside stuff. But you almost get the idea
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: that if you only know Gardener inside the building, and
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Doug's the guy is only paying attention to what's going
• 31:32
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• 31:36
  Speaker 1: knows that's happening, but everything that he sees from Gardener
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: when he's inside every bank field or t I bankfield,
• 31:43
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• 31:46
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• 31:49
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  Speaker 1: just a short moment on Jaguary's drive time, and we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about the changes we have made in our
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  Speaker 1: lives spellas and I posed this question because I just
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  Speaker 1: filled up my car with gas come down to South
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  Speaker 1: Florida be with my dad for a few days. I
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  Speaker 1: drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and it cost me thirty
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  Speaker 1: two dollars to fill it up, which is unheard of.
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  Speaker 1: So when is the last time you filled your car
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  Speaker 1: up with gas? It's been three weeks for me, and
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  Speaker 1: I have a Diesel Ford F two fifty and I
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  Speaker 1: hold my boys around all the time, scouts sports, that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff twice a week. Uh, and I haven't.
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  Speaker 1: I've not filled it in three weeks now. And I
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  Speaker 1: think the last time I filled it cost me forty
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  Speaker 1: six dollars. Yeah, that's the stadium. So I can't remember
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  Speaker 1: the last time I filled up. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: late February. Um, I do know how I filled up
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  Speaker 1: my son's car who who stays with us, And it
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  Speaker 1: usually costs thirty five bucks to fill that up and
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  Speaker 1: it was sixteen dollars, So it's uh, I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: can't frankly imagine this scenario where I ever fell up
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  Speaker 1: the car with gas. Again. I can remember driving to
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  Speaker 1: the stadium. I can remember driving to the stadium in
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  Speaker 1: back when it was still under construction, and stopping for
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  Speaker 1: nineties six cents a gallon gas and thinking then nine cents,
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  Speaker 1: My god, how much cheaper can it get. We're not
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  Speaker 1: all that far from that. It's amazing. Now. If only
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  Speaker 1: I could stop online shopping, I'd be saving a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money these days. All right, when you get ahold
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  Speaker 1: of that habit, alright's online shopping. There's no way, John, John,
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  Speaker 1: no way. All right. That is our show this Tuesday morning,
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  Speaker 1: April four. Tune in next week. All kinds of stuff
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  Speaker 1: going on preparing for the NFL Draft. We will see them.
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  Speaker 1: M hm.