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25W: The Surprising Age Which Our Body Reaches a Tipping Point + The Truth About Lane Kiffin's Dog 'Juice' with Ross Dellenger + Allen Robinson on Which NFL Team Had the Best Cafeteria Food · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 1: We had a we had it in post from the
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  Speaker 1: New York Post the age our bodies reach a tipping
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  Speaker 1: point and they stop being able to bounce back easily.
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  Speaker 1: M what do you think that age is?
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  Speaker 6: Eddie forty? Kevin Wow, thirty two?
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  Speaker 1: How old are you?
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  Speaker 6: Thirty four?
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  Speaker 1: Are you feeling it yourself?
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  Speaker 7: Really?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? New researchers found the point of no return when
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  Speaker 1: we no longer recover as well from injury is seventy five.
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  Speaker 5: What so we should be like recovery. We should be good.
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  Speaker 1: My boot should be off. I should be running marathons.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, I cut my finger and Thanksgiving it's still
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  Speaker 5: not good.
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  Speaker 1: Researchers measured the health of nearly thirteen thousand people with
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  Speaker 1: an average age of sixty seven, based on thirty attributes
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  Speaker 1: chronic diseases, cardiovascular conditions, how they performed in activities. They
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  Speaker 1: use a frailty index. Researchers discovered the tipping point for
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  Speaker 1: men and women round seventy. Like, we should be able
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  Speaker 1: to bounce back. Then if we do it right, what
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  Speaker 1: happens is we get hurt, and we're older and we
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  Speaker 1: have other obligations and we're not able to focus on it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: But also I don't heal as fast as I used to.
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  Speaker 1: No chance, so I do. I guess I can bounce back,
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  Speaker 1: It's just slower. Maybe it's seventy five. You just don't
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  Speaker 1: bounce back. Like once it happens is permanent.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, you just sit there with it.
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  Speaker 1: It's permanent marker on a shirt. It's blood on a shirt.
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  Speaker 1: So I saw that. I would have guessed much younger too.
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  Speaker 5: Dude. My father in law he is probably eighty something,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like late seventies, early eighties, and he's like,
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  Speaker 5: he's got a trainer, and he sent me a video
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  Speaker 5: of him doing dead lifts. One hundred and eighty really,
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  Speaker 5: you know, almost two hundred deadlifts. I'm like, dude, old man,
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  Speaker 5: you're gonna hurt yourself.
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  Speaker 1: That's your father in law. Yeah, so Caitlin's grandfather, which
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  Speaker 1: I guess would be my grandfather in law. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's in his eighties.
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  Speaker 5: He deadlifts.
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  Speaker 1: He works in the farm. Still. Yeah, that's like he
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  Speaker 1: just birthday calf a cow and he was talking about
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  Speaker 1: how it wouldn't it was coming out the wrong way,
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  Speaker 1: so we had to chain it to its feet. Like
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  Speaker 1: he still gets on a four wheeler, does that.
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  Speaker 5: There are just some people that like want to be
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  Speaker 5: physical their whole life, like my parents, like my mom,
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  Speaker 5: and yeah, she's got bad legs and like a bad
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  Speaker 5: hip and everything, but she can barely walk and she's
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  Speaker 5: like seventy nine, seventy eight.
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  Speaker 1: He was driving a school bus until last year in
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  Speaker 1: his eighties. And I think genetics has a lot to
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  Speaker 1: do with it, for sure, genetics and choices. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, seventy five. I guess it doesn't go back.
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  Speaker 1: I was in therapy yesterday from my ankle.
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  Speaker 5: How's that going?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'm passing with flying colors
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  Speaker 1: because I'm doing all my work, but man, it hurts.
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  Speaker 1: Like you look, I was looking. I look forward to it.
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  Speaker 1: Then when I get there, I realized I shouldn't look
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  Speaker 1: forward to it because it sucks the whole time.
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  Speaker 5: It's like working out.
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  Speaker 1: Its physical. Like I was on a box doing all
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  Speaker 1: these lifts and it hurts because my ankle obviously is
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  Speaker 1: not in the condition that it was. I'm doing you know,
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  Speaker 1: have a machine where you lift your use your quads,
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  Speaker 1: you lift up frontward. Yeah, yeah, and then you're so
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  Speaker 1: they have me doing that because I've done no legwork
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  Speaker 1: in a month and a half and they're like, do
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  Speaker 1: three sets at eight and they'd put the weight on them.
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  Speaker 1: Like this sucks, I'm weak. So did physical therapy, Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Well, like it's I mean, you're trending upward. Your foot
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  Speaker 5: still hurt. Like the other day you were like, it
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  Speaker 5: hurts so bad.
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  Speaker 1: Part of the reason it hurts so bad is well,
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  Speaker 1: it's not all the way back. But I'm wearing this
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  Speaker 1: boot that's very heavy and it hangs if I'm sitting
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  Speaker 1: in a chair. It's all the blood's rushing to it.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, so numb. Yeah, Like I have it on
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  Speaker 1: a stool right now. Oh okay, yeah, but I should
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  Speaker 1: hopefully because I I put my surgeon tomorrow. They're like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you cannot wear the boot now you have to wear
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  Speaker 1: a brace, which is different. But I can wear normal shoes.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where my li left shoes are to
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  Speaker 1: like three pair of shoes right now, because I've only
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  Speaker 1: been wearing the right shoes.
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  Speaker 5: I totally to put a shoe on the.
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  Speaker 1: Booth for like five weeks or so. It's only been
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  Speaker 1: one shoe. So, Okay, we have a couple of good
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  Speaker 1: guests coming up, but let's talk first. Let's have a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. Hey, you may in fact check this
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  Speaker 1: Kevin BYU's coach has to be Mormon. No, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's true. Really, So we met him. Penn State tried
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  Speaker 1: to hire BYU's coach, and he was going to go
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  Speaker 1: to Penn State. And then the crumble Cookie guy comes
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  Speaker 1: out and is like, I'm in. I'm gonna save him.
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  Speaker 1: Crumble Cookie guy, big probo guy. They sign Stocky to
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  Speaker 1: a new deal at BYU. It doesn't say that.
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  Speaker 6: No, I'm seeing a couple of things to say, No,
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  Speaker 6: you don't have to.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Then I heard and read wrong. Is he but
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  Speaker 1: is he is he Mormon?
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  Speaker 3: Good question?
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  Speaker 5: He did kind of he stopped drinking beer.
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  Speaker 1: And he did have to go and like speak to
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  Speaker 1: the he went there, didn't he the head.
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  Speaker 5: Of the church. But again, I don't think you have
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  Speaker 5: to be Mormon to go there.
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  Speaker 1: No, not to go there.
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  Speaker 6: You don't he is Mormon.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe it's just like recommended.
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  Speaker 5: I wonder, I wonder if you can take that job
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  Speaker 5: and tell.
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  Speaker 1: Me Mormon you convert, like you when you marry somebody. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: because there are people I know that have converted because
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  Speaker 1: the person they're marrying is a different religion.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, my wife converted to Catholicism.
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  Speaker 1: Really yeah, but she didn't really have to do it.
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  Speaker 5: She did classes and everything.
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  Speaker 1: I know. But that's just going through the process to
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  Speaker 1: prove you get the job, which is your wife like,
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  Speaker 1: can't you just prove? Like you go and you study
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  Speaker 1: the LDS. That's what that is, right, Mormon, and all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden you are like, yeah, I'm in, and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, okay, you're the coach, and then you don't
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  Speaker 1: go anymore. You just go through the process. So but
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  Speaker 1: it's not you don't have to be No. But but
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  Speaker 1: how many of the last coaches have been Like how
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  Speaker 1: important is that to them? Historically, says a majority have been.
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  Speaker 1: It has to it's just not an official policy.
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  Speaker 5: Unspoken Yeah, policy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it's probably a policy, but just
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  Speaker 1: one they can't put it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It's like they'll interview somebody does not Mormon, just say
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  Speaker 6: oh we tried.
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  Speaker 5: Oh good. Point like, does that turned into like a
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  Speaker 5: discrimination thing?
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  Speaker 1: Like it's Rooney rule in the NFL they have to
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  Speaker 1: interview a certain number of minority coaches. Yeah, and that
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  Speaker 1: they have to interview a certain number of non Mormon coaches.
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  Speaker 5: To prove one Christian all the denominations.
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  Speaker 1: He almost depends date. Yeah, that was a surprise. Man,
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  Speaker 1: they are, but they just kept falling. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: was a surprise because nobody else that they wanted wanted
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  Speaker 1: the job. They that job opened up so long ago
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  Speaker 1: before any of the other jobs open. They fired James
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  Speaker 1: Franklin thinking we're gonna have our pick of the litter. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy, and there's no litter. I was reading the
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  Speaker 1: grades from this sec unfiltered on Twitter and they graded
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  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen an a plus. Now he does have to
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  Speaker 1: go and win a national championship. This is the first
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  Speaker 1: coach I've ever seen that has to go somewhere and
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  Speaker 1: win a national championship or it is not a successful higher.
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  Speaker 5: What's the grade on the grade on the higher or
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  Speaker 5: the great on the coach?
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  Speaker 1: The higher?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: That both. That's yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's why you get the grade.
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  Speaker 5: I don't mean like a coach, like you give Lane
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  Speaker 5: Kiffen an A plus because just for being a coach,
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  Speaker 5: like he's an A plus coach.
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  Speaker 1: L s U they gave the A plus because they
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  Speaker 1: hired Lanky.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, it's the higher then Florida.
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  Speaker 1: They gave an A for John summerl which there are
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  Speaker 1: some coaches and we've had Summer on the show before.
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  Speaker 1: There are some coaches that shouldn't do some of the
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  Speaker 1: quirky social media stuff. And I was watching a thing
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  Speaker 1: where I think it was maybe to caw Spikes who
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  Speaker 1: played to Florida, and he's picked up the phone. He's
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  Speaker 1: like coach and it's like coach walking out of sidey.
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  Speaker 1: He picks up the phone. He's like it's Sugning Day
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  Speaker 1: and like that's not Sumerll's thing. It's a weird video,
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  Speaker 1: Reallyrand Yeah, thank you, thank you because he just goes
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  Speaker 1: it's spikes. I don't know which one of us is.
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  Speaker 5: Like a bad actor.
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  Speaker 1: It just is a little too corny for his personality
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  Speaker 1: because he's not a corny personality.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like he doesn't seem like a playful guy like Save,
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  Speaker 5: like Saving doing corny video.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be Saving or Belichick doing corny. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work.
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  Speaker 6: Blane Kiffen could do cordy.
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  Speaker 5: Ye oh, that's all he does.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They gave summer On a at Florida. They gave Golish
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  Speaker 1: a B plus at Auburn. They gave will Stein a
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  Speaker 1: B plus at Kentucky. I thought for Kentucky that was
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  Speaker 1: a really great hire. Yeah, he's a Kentucky guy and
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  Speaker 1: his offensive cordator Oregon young guy. I think he's in
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  Speaker 1: his thirties. Pete Golding C minus, who's now the new
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss head coach. That was an interesting thing. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about it where it was like, hey, interim coach,
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  Speaker 1: and the hour later it was like, no interim, he's
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  Speaker 1: now the head coach.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we talked. Yeah, we talked about it last time.
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  Speaker 6: I just wonder if it's like a desperation thing or not.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's probably a bit of they had that
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  Speaker 1: planned in case Lane left. They just didn't know if
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  Speaker 1: Lane was gonna leave, and they didn't want him to leave.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a bit of both. Like who else you
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  Speaker 1: gonna go get? Like Penn State's trying to find a coach,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get a coach probably bigger than
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  Speaker 1: Penn State. I think you like what the best option
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  Speaker 1: available is. I think Penn State's gonna happen to hire
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  Speaker 1: their interim coach.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, And at this point, it's like, hey, we're happy
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  Speaker 6: to have you if you're because he was a coordinator
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  Speaker 6: their interim code. Yeah, it's under Franklin, and I think
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  Speaker 6: he's probably hoping that nobody takes the job because he
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  Speaker 6: wants that job. The players were advocating for him their
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  Speaker 6: last game before the season was over.
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  Speaker 5: The football coaches ever take their their crew with them,
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  Speaker 5: like their.
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  Speaker 1: Ocst Lane took a lot. But I did see the
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  Speaker 1: Office of Coordinators going back to coach Ole mess for
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's good.
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  Speaker 5: That helps them eats something. Man, that's crazy.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: They do a lot. I mean most do. Most of
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  Speaker 1: the ones that they like they take with them. There
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: was the story of Lane given the ultimatum, if you
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  Speaker 1: don't get on the plane, you're not gonna come to
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  Speaker 1: l s U with me. Turns out it wasn't right then,
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: it was like two days later. They all came over.
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  Speaker 5: That would make the movie though, right, the dramatic.
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  Speaker 1: Get on the play. Well, that's that is the movie.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: And Jerrem McGuire, Jeremy maguire, who's with me?
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  Speaker 6: The Goldfish.
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  Speaker 1: They gave Ryan silver Silverfield the Arkansas a D minus.
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  Speaker 5: Dang, I know that's like that's my college grades. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: high school for sure.
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  Speaker 6: High school.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I got a text from Jared Allen he's played from
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: the Vikings. Oh yeah, yeah, yesterday, and so he said, hey,
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: if you want me to connect you with the new
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  Speaker 1: razorback coach. He's a good friend of mine and an
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: old coach of mine. So I guess they're friends. And
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: then he coached in the NFL a bit with Minnesota.
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  Speaker 6: Oh really, well that's cool connection.
• 11:21
  Speaker 5: Does Jared Allen text you a bunch? So are you
• 11:25
  Speaker 5: watching this game?
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  Speaker 8: Bro?
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: No, we don't text like that. We do live close
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: to each other. Yeah, and him and Matt Castle are
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: good friends. And so Jared came over, did our podcast,
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: and then when we went to the Super Bowl, he
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: was being maybe in Doug, isn't.
• 11:43
  Speaker 5: It it was Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 6: He's a fine, he's getting inducted this next year.
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  Speaker 5: No, it was the announcement of his induction.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: He's been inducted or or making the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, So.
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  Speaker 1: But he was there at that So I spent some
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  Speaker 1: time with him there too, and we just lived close.
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  Speaker 1: And so now it's like, yeah, that's cool man. Yeah.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: So Castle knew that Jared knew the coach, and so
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: Castle was like, hey, hit Bobby. So Jared texting was like, oh,
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't know whatever. I thought, that's pretty cool. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I've not talked to the we I texted
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  Speaker 1: the new Arkansas coach.
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  Speaker 5: Oh you did already.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I have a friend that connected us on a text.
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  Speaker 1: But I know this guy's underwater right now. Your first
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: two days it's all PRU going on. There's no free time.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: He was in the basketball game last night, which we
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: did beat Louisville.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah that was awesome, big one for us.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: We needed.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: So but he's doing Like signing day was Wednesday yesterday,
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: so like he had to hit the ground running. Penn
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: State got two recruits. I saw their fifty because they
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: only had two people signed.
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  Speaker 6: That's crazy.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: The big ones on with James Franklinder decommitted and they
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: don't have a coach, So who are you signing to?
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: And Franklin's with Virginia Tech.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah someonent there with him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah I did. Yeah, So yeah, there's that. I'm
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: talking about the games coming up. It's an interesting weekend,
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  Speaker 1: mildly like. I think number one is the Ohio State
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: Indiana game. To me, just what I want to see
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: because I just want to see if Indiana plays close,
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: and who knows, they may win. But I don't feel
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: like Indiana is on fraud alert because they did beat
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: Oregon at Oregon, but it's been a while.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and Ohio State is that good?
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, I say it's so good.
• 13:17
  Speaker 6: They're playing Georgia. Alabama might be like, yeah, I like
• 13:19
  Speaker 6: the chances, but because it's Ohio State, I'm like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see it happening, and they get surprised us
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  Speaker 1: all yeah, but I'm anxious to see they did beat Oregon.
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  Speaker 5: Indiana's never won a national championship.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Indiana's never won a conference cham big Ten Championship.
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  Speaker 5: It's crazy.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: This might be their first time playing in the Big
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  Speaker 1: Ten Championship game, but I do know they've never won
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: a Big Ten championship. They're basketball school man. They used
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: to play football with a basketball till recently.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, back in the day.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they would ask you at a time, do you
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: guys care if we use the basketball for this?
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: They started dribbling the football.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: Sc championship game. Don't only care that much. They're both
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: in to the playoff and also a time my teams.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: I don't care. The Big twelve Championship GA is interesting
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: because you wonder if BYU beats Texas Tech, it screws
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: up the entire college football playoff because that is not
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: a spot that they have already dedicated to BYU. They've
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: already dedicated it to Texas Tech. They're gonna get a
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: by They're gonna be one of the top four teams.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: And for them to get that, they're gonna have to
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: win this conference championship game. And they are a twelve
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: and a half point favorite.
• 14:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and Tech whooped them earlier in the PST time.
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: Do you think BYU has a chance?
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll win. Has a chance. I mean sure,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: but I don't think they'll win. But if they do,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: it screws up everybody's, at least the committee's current call.
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: Do you want to see that as a guy who
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: loves chaos.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, My short answer is yes, it sucks. Vanderbilt can't
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: get in. No, Texas should not be ranked on Vanderbilt
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: just because they have three losses. Don't lose to a
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: four win Florida team. Like, don't lose to a four
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: win Florida team. That's the answer to that. It's like
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: you scheduled Ohio State, Great, you lost that game. That's okay.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: You can lose that game. You can lose another game.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Don't lose the freak Florida. Look at Vanderbilt's two losses.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: They lost to Alabama and Texas. Yeah, like these other teams,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: most of their loss. That Florida loss was terrible. Yeah,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: no offense, Mike, I wish that wouldn't have happened. But
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Texas shouldn't be in. And Texas shouldn't be ranked over
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Vanderbilt even though they beat them head to head, because
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: they have an extra loss. That head to head needs
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: to be if you're the same and you've played head
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: to head, then you are up. Yeah, it shouldn't be
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: with an extra loss. You lost to Florida.
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: I mean you swap them as far as their logo
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: and just team school in general, and you know they're
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: they're gonna.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Be up there.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Big twelve championship. We're talking about that one. That's about it.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I hope Duke went. Hope Duke beats Virginia. That's the chaos,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: sake up. That's the chaos that I want to see.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: How about your Cowboys tonight, baby, tonight.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: It's a big elimination game, big one in Detroit. Man,
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: I don't know, there's a lot of I was getting
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: the auto part the other day for my son's car
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: and the lady saw my caught my my hat, and
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: she's like, let's go Cowboys, and I go, man, it's
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: actually like looking pretty much. She's like, don't say that.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: Don't say that. They always let us down. And so
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm going into this week with I
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: hope you don't let us down.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Here's why, here's why you're annoying. You started the season Cowboys,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: don't do it all. Then you gave up on the
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Cowboys and said you're no longer rooting for them, correct,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: you committed to you don't care anymore. You guys suck.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: You're no longer rooting for them this year.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Did you notice I stopped wearing a half a little bit? No, yeah,
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: I stopped wearing the Cowboys half for a little bit.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: And now but now you're so back other people are
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: having to convince you to calm down.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: I know. It's just that's the life of being a
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Cowboys fan.
• 16:31
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: Like, look at the beginning of the season, did you
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: really think we had a chance of making the playoffs
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: in Week six?
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: No?
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: Week seven definitely not. Then we just started. I mean
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: we beat the two Super Bowl teams that I.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Think that tigans Packers is kind of the start of it.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but then after that we fell off.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that that gave you a little hope. That
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Cardinals loss was your big punch of it.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: No, dud, it's like, what are we doing? We don't
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: even want to win?
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Like I started think you guys could play because your
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: offense was so good. When when Ceedee Lamb went out
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: and picking started to be that dude even though you
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: weren't winning, then you had two dudes. When Cede got back,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: and that's really hard to stop. With dak Clan as
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: well as he is.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: We got two dudes, we got a running game, we
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: got a defense that we keep stacking on. We got
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: people that were hurt at the beginning of the season
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: that are coming back. Now Diggs is going to play tonight.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, it just feels like something good is happening.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: But talking yourself into heart ache.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: What's crazy, though, is after you know, Nilan committed suicide,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: that kind of people are talking about that really brought
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: the team together to play for Nielan. You know, I
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: don't know how much that plays a role in it,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: but it seems like this team's got more than talent.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: They've got fight in their heart to win this. For Kneeling,
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: that's just what people say.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: It's not about him. I'm not taking the death part
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: of it when you win. What people say. It's like
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: the most annoying thing when when teams are getting ready
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: to start their season and our fans are the same
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: and they're like, all we need is like this guy
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to step up, Well, what do you meet step up?
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: That's such a generic thing you say whenever you just
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: are like, man, if he steps up, if it were
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: up to him, he'd probably stepping up.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: They's men up.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: But sometimes you're just not big enough, strong enough, you
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: don't have the skill set, you're not fast enough. There's
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: no such thing as man, if we just get this
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: guy to step up, what does that mean? Step up?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: It's such a generic thing that people just say because
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: they don't know what they're talking about. No offense to you.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: I didn't say step up.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I know, but you're kind of like the magical mystery
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. But if they lose, does that mean
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: they didn't care about him and his death.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: No, it's not that. It's just that, you know, death
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: sometimes brings families together. I know my dad died. We
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: started texting.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: That's way I heard someone laugh.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: This is way different than your dad dying.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: But man, my sister and I texted more, my brother
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: and I texted more my mom, Like, we just all
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: got closer. I feel like the Cowboys are getting closer
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: because they suffered a loss together. They very well on
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: the fields, they very well could.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: My only point is if you're saying that's why they're
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: coming together, then you have to If they lose, then go, well,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: maybe that wasn't what was happening at all.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Well, and that in the injuries and like you know, lam.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Out that's already happened.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know. But then and then our defense
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: was in shambles, dude, until two weeks ago. We can
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: week and a half ago, like that's when we started
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: getting players back. Over Sean came back, We got new linebackers,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: We traded for Kenny Kenny Clark. Well that's from the beginning.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: But Quinn Williams we got, we made, we made changes.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Listen, I hope I wrote for the Cowboys. I bet
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: a future on them because it was it paid off
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: so well, if they hit a bet one hundred bucks
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: twenty six thousand.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: That's your bet. Yeah, I did one dollar to win
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: two hundred.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I would love for them just to make the playoffs
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: because if they have such a high high Uh.
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: I hate the term mine c octane nofin. Yeah, it's
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: stupid high power baby running. And then I say octane offense.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: I'm such a loser. Anyway, Cowboys played an igus.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Is uh Saint Brown playing. I haven't seen a decision made,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: but let's hope they are trending that he's not playing.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Lines are minus three Yeah. Whatever, that's what.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: I've made a lot. I've made so much money on
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: those dumb lines where Cowboys are underdogs. I'll take it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Oh the lines, not the Lions with the lines. Yeah,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: good line, got it? Uh yeah, do you see anything
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: about Amon Rossis?
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: Says questionable still as of right now.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: If he can play, he probably plays because they can't
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: lose this game either, because really, you don't have the
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: luxury to let him get back to full health. If
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: he's clear to play and wants to play, you're setting
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: yourself off other games weekend Seahawks and Falcons, we'll say
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I don't care. Bengals and Bills, we do care, because
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the Bengals have to keep winning and the Bills need
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: to win. Like both of those teams that they they're
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: both looking to win because it hasn't been the greatest
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of seasons, at least compared to the expectations that were
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: set up up on them. And they both have high
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: octane offenses. God, I'm stupid. The game I think America
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: is waiting for his Titans and Browns.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's a good one.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: They should just put that on like a stream. Is that? Yeah? Yeah,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it's in Cleveland. Commanders of Vikings. Nobody cares Dolphins Jets.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: That's very similar to the Titans and Rounds, except the
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Dolphins are winning a little now, but still nobody cares
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Saints and Bucks. Colton Jaggs on that Colts and Jags
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: a good game. I'm not thinking about us right now, guys.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the general interest of the people.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I'm always thinking about us.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: See, there's a Ravens interesting game just because it's in
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the division and a division that nobody's good.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, up for grabs.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so up for grabs that the Bengals could
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: keep winning and play themselves back into it. Yeah, Broncos
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: are Raiders. That should be a runaway. Bears at Packers,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: that's interesting.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: It's a good one.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: It's at Green Bay. Rams at Cardinals, and Texas at
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Chief is a really interesting one too. Yeah. Chief, they
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: both that's close to a playing game for both of them,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: or at least a elimination game.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: It's like you don't only play your way in, you
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: just play to keep playing for the playoffs. Chiefs are
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: in Kansas City at three and a half point favorite.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Monday Night, Eagles at Chargers pretty good, so that's your
• 22:06
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• 22:15
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• 22:16
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• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I've not bet against Indiana one time. I've bet a
• 22:21
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• 22:24
  Speaker 1: State minus four. Oh yeah, it's really hypocritical to me
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: because I've been something that's been working for you.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you change.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Georgia minus two and a half over Alabama.
• 22:43
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• 22:48
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• 22:49
  Speaker 1: What's the over under on Duke Virginia? Hm?
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Well, those two teams have high octane What are you
• 22:57
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• 22:58
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• 23:09
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• 23:11
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• 24:38
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go over now and talk to one of
• 24:39
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  Speaker 1: He's a senior college football reporter at Yahu Sports and
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• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Ross Dellinger. Ross really appreciate the time. I want to
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: start first with something happening here in town where we're
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: seeing the Vanderbilt head coach Clark League call out, let's
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: play a game. You don't get to play. Let's just
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: play a game. Will this ever in the history of
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the world happen where a college football coaches yells let's
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: get a game in.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Uh No, I don't.
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: I don't think that's the way it works.
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: You you can't just suddenly yell out on a Tuesday
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: it's it's like that. It runs by that office episode
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: with Michael Scott, I declare bankruptcy.
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: He just yells out.
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: I declare bankruptcy, and he thinks that all of a
• 25:26
  Speaker 9: sudden his financial worries will go away.
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: So no, that's not how That's not how it works
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: at all.
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: Coaches that think love the idea of controlling everything and
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: pushing a button and making something happen, but that's just
• 25:41
  Speaker 9: not logistically how it's going to work.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: You do understand that's frustration though, right, They lost two games,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and I understand the head to head in Texas or
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Vanderbilt not gonna make it, but the fact that Texas
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: ranked ahead of Vanderbilt, they did beat him head to head,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: but Texas lost three games. So don't you do you
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: understand Vanderbil else like anger at the system?
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, look, there's one hundred and thirty seven
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: FBS teams. There's sixty eight Power Conference teams, and we
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: have twelve playoffs. Right, the number of spots make up
• 26:15
  Speaker 9: about nine percent of the FBS, So nine percent of
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: FBS makes it to the postseason. Most pro sports and
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: a lot of NCAA sports too, at least twenty percent
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: or more of a of a field make the playoffs.
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: So uh, there's a lot of frustration about the size
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: of the playoff field, and that's.
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: Why commissioners are, you know, steady trying to come to
• 26:47
  Speaker 9: some resolution or agreement to expand the field. So I
• 26:51
  Speaker 9: think there are a lot of frustrated schools out there,
• 26:56
  Speaker 9: and Vanderbilt has a right to be frustrated.
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: Texas to a degree, has a right to be for
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: straight in Utah is ten and two.
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: They certainly have a right to be frustrated. But that's
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: the way it is right now with the twelve team playoffs.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I think the committee kind of sucks in that Miami
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: beat Notre Dame. Okay, so head to head, but they
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: still have Notre Dame ranked over Miami right now now.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But to contradict themselves, they've got Texas over Vanderbilt. Like
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: they're kind of saying one thing but also showing a
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: different thing. Does this mean we need to open it
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: up to more teams or less teams?
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: Well, I mean, you know there are some people out
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: there that think, you know, that twelve is actually too many,
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: right and we should go back to four, or maybe
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: if they should be eight or six or something like that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: You know, you talk to college coaches and most of
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: them will say annually that there's six to eight teams
• 27:57
  Speaker 9: that can win the national championship, So twelve gives us
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: a few more than that.
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: Twelve seems like a good number.
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: But again, when you look at other pro sports and
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: even other NCAA sports, nine percent of the field making
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: the postseason, nine percent of the sport making the pro
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: season seems to be a kind of a low number,
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: And I think that's why, you know, a lot of
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: commissioners and athletic directors hope that commissioners come to some
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: agreement on perhaps a sixteen team field, or may be
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: even one that has twenty teams.
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: Twenty plus teams.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in for that. It's full hunger games, like
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: everybody in like no conference championship. We don't need them
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: anymore because we're seeing, except for BYU maybe beating Texas
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Tech to get in, like, the conference championship games really
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: aren't mattering in the grand scheme. I think it's cool
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: for like an Indiana who has never won a Big
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Ten championship to be able to play in one, But
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I think the championship games don't matter as much. So
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: let's kill this week and let's make it thirty two teams.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Let's use this week as the week leading man. What
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: do you think about that?
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: Well there, you know, there's a proposal from the Big Ten.
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: It's a twenty fourteen proposal, and it would basically kill
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: the conference championship games, right it would. It would force uh,
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: it would force you know, college athletic leaders to basically
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: eliminate conference championship games and then on this week you
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: have perhaps you have Army Navy. You move it up
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: a week, and the next week you start, you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: around to the playoffs.
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: That's sort of the idea.
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: In this twenty four team bracket, you'd have multiple AQ
• 29:47
  Speaker 9: automatic qualifiers for the Big Ten, four for the SEC,
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: four for the ACC, four for the Big Twelve, two
• 29:56
  Speaker 9: for the Group of five and six at low arch.
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: So that would that would be.
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: The format of how the playoff field would be set.
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: That's a proposal from the Big Ten. It's under discussion.
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: The SEC and the Big Ten have to agree Brandy
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: expanded playoff format to be approved and adopted, and right
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: now they're not agreeing. The SEC is not agreeing with
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: that format. They want more of a smaller field sixteen teams.
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: They only want to expand out probably to about sixteen teams,
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: and they don't want the automatic qualifiers.
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: They want a bigger at large pool.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Is Juice Kiffen one of the weirder stories in the
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: past five years?
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: It is, Yeah, it is the fact that I guess
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: Lane Kiffin.
• 30:45
  Speaker 9: I don't know the details except that maybe Lane Kiffen
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: doesn't the dog or something.
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that dogs toe the dog is with other people,
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: you know. It's just it's it's typical, right.
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: This, This Lane's or which I've followed out for a week,
• 31:01
  Speaker 9: who quite literally physically followed him around Mississippi and in
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: the Louisiana is a weird one.
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: The whole story is odd, and.
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: This is just I guess I shouldn't be surprised another
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: odd part of the story.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: It is brilliant because I would often see Juice Kiffin's
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: tweets and I'm like, Lane's got a dog, who doesn't love?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: A good American man with the dog must mean he's
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: a pretty good person. Must mean there's some depth for
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: love that maybe I didn't think Lane Kiffin had. Because
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Lane Kevin's buncing around everywhere loving nobody, and he has
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: a dog. So there's that. And often during my life
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I only had a dog, so I related to that.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And Juice is like killing He's tweeting out, you know,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: can it be Ole Miss and Georgia in the championship game.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: He's tweeting from the plane. Turns out he lives at
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: a kennel. He doesn't even live with Lane. It's the
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: most bizarre thing. Also, shout out to the person who
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: created that as a pr tactic because it made me
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: like Lane a little more because he likes dogs.
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: Yes, a lot of people were drawn to Juice. In fact,
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: I remember visiting Lane when he got well he got
• 32:05
  Speaker 9: Juice quote unquote whatever, and that was like years three
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: or four years ago, and I was there in Oxford
• 32:12
  Speaker 9: and Juice was a puppy and he was in the office.
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: He was in his office.
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: So I don't know, I don't know what to make
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: of all the the Juice dog.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: You know, there was an email that's like Ross is coming,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: get Juice over to the office cause you's gonna write
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: a story for sure. What do you think the lame
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: situation is in at LSU and Baton Rugine. How many
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: does he have to win a championship in three to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: four years?
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: I think there would be a lot of disappointment if,
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: certainly by year four, if LSU didn't win a at
• 32:46
  Speaker 9: least win an SEC championship at the very least. You know,
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: when you get into the playoff as big as it's
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: gotten at twelve, and it might be in four years,
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: it might be sixteen or twenty four or whatever. It's
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: kind of a craft shoot. I think people understand that,
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: kind of like the NCAA basketball tournament sort of. But
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: just getting there is important. So just competing and being
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: in the playoff I think is number one that you
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: need to do. But look the last well before Brian Kelly,
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: three straight LSU coaches each won a national championship, and
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: I believe they all did it in their third year.
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: I think they all did it in their third year.
• 33:36
  Speaker 9: With all with all championship games held in New Orleans,
• 33:41
  Speaker 9: it all just kind of odd and so as it
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: turns out, I believe in twenty twenty eight, the national
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: Championship game is in New Orleans. Lane's third year, so
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: there's gonna be a lot of people pointing to that
• 33:56
  Speaker 9: obviously with.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Peek Golden taking the job at ole Miss and you
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: could probably confirm or deny because I don't know what
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to believe anymore. There's the story of Lane being in
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: his office watching the Iron Bowl and Golden coming in
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and being like, this is my office, now get the
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: crap out of here. Is that even true?
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Then it must not be so, but it must not be.
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure. I that would
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: be pretty crazy. But then again, we know that.
• 34:30
  Speaker 9: Before that game, right before that game started, the meeting
• 34:35
  Speaker 9: at the Chancellor's house, the oldest Chancellor's house, which involved
• 34:38
  Speaker 9: the chancellor and Lane and the athletic director Keif Carter
• 34:43
  Speaker 9: did did end, and that's where Lane sort of told
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: him that he intended to leave. So by that point
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: that Saturday night, it was it was known. So it's
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: possible that that that happened, But that's that's I have
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: not heard that.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Do you think there is any true to the idea
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: of if Alabama had lost that game, that Caylen de
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Moore takes a job at Penn State and then Lane
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: ends up going to Alabama because that's a job he
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: really wanted.
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: I have a hard time believing that Kaylen Deboor first off,
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: would would have left Alabama.
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: For Penn State.
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: I just have a hard time getting over that one
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: to begin with, that that was a possibility.
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't know if that was ever
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: really a possibility.
• 35:32
  Speaker 9: I do know that Lane takes advice and leans on
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: certain people that probably believe that the Alabama job is
• 35:43
  Speaker 9: a great job, certainly like Nick Saban. So I just
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: in order for that to happen, I think the first
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: thing that had happened was Taylan leaving, and I just
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: never believed that was a real possibility.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I now have a new possibilit You had a cat briefly.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Is that a real cat? Is that even your cat?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Or are you just trying to get us to like
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you better?
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: The cat that was yeah, that I had to throw
• 36:07
  Speaker 8: off my lap? That is Is that really your real cat?
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: That is that is my cat?
• 36:11
  Speaker 9: I promise you it doesn't. It doesn't spend although sometimes
• 36:15
  Speaker 9: I wish it would. It doesn't spend like the weekends
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: in other days when I'm off camera in some kennel somewhere.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: But it is my it is my cat.
• 36:23
  Speaker 10: I don't know where she went now Juice the cat
• 36:26
  Speaker 10: Juice Juice Maybe No, her name is Maxine. We call
• 36:34
  Speaker 10: her max for sure.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Do you think Indiana has the talent to play with
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Ohio State?
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: I think when Indiana has done looking well, I will
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: state the most talented team in the country.
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: I think they have.
• 36:49
  Speaker 9: Shoot, they probably have like five of the top ten
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: players in the country just on one team.
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: So it's going to be tough.
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: Uh, they're playing really well right now what they did
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: in the cold and sleep on the road in Arbor.
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: But I think what Indian has done and how their
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: quarterback is played, and how their defense, especially their defensive
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: front is played, I think they can hang around. I
• 37:19
  Speaker 9: don't think they're gonna win, you know, I think Ohio
• 37:22
  Speaker 9: State has too many weapons. But it wouldn't shock me
• 37:25
  Speaker 9: if they entered the fourth quarter that's a one score game.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: If it is a three or more score game, any
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: chance they lose the buy I.
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: Would be surprised. I guess it depends on what happens
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: in other games. You know, if Alabama beached.
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: Georgia, that would probably push Georgia out of the top
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: four in the by If BYU were to upset Texas Tech, right,
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: that would push Texas Tech off the buy. So if
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: one of those two things happen, you would think even
• 37:55
  Speaker 9: with a big even losing significantly, Indiana would still get
• 37:59
  Speaker 9: the buy. If those things don't happen, in Texas Tech
• 38:05
  Speaker 9: wins and Georgia wins, it beats Alabama maybe to be closer,
• 38:10
  Speaker 9: but I still think pretty much, no matter what, they'll
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: get the buy that you know that if everybody wins
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: that's in the four right now, they probably except for
• 38:22
  Speaker 9: this game, obviously, we're talking about the three of the four.
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: If they win, they'll stay in the buy and I
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: think Indiana does too.
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: I think it's just where they'll slip, right they'll probably
• 38:31
  Speaker 9: slip to if Georgia wins. They'll probably slip to numbers
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: number three. If they lose against Ohio State, and especially
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: if it's not like an overtime game or something, but
• 38:41
  Speaker 9: if they lose by two or three touchdowns, they could
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: slip to number four, maybe beyond Texas Tech.
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: It's possible. I don't know about slipping to five though.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I have two final questions for you. If Duke wins
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: the ACC Championship, do they get in.
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: That's the big question.
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: If Duke wins, are they ranked in front of JMU,
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: And your listeners are probably like, what are you talking about?
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: JMU four?
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: And I'll explain because it's there's a little misconception that
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: the Power Conference champions, all four of the Power Conference
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: champions getting AQ and there's one designated for the G
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: five champion. That's not right, actually right, it's the five
• 39:23
  Speaker 9: highest ranked conference champions. So if the ACC champion isn't
• 39:31
  Speaker 9: raked ahead of the second highest G five Group of
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: five champion, which would be potentially JMU, then two Group
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: of five champions, the American champion either two Late or
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: North Texas, they play each other, and JMU get into
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: the playoff and the ACC would be left out. There's
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: a chance that that happens if Duke upsets Virginia. Now,
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: the Duke win over Virginia is a I mean this
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: ten and two that ranked the top fifteen, top seventeen,
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: so that would be a good win.
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: It isn't enough to jump Duke over JMU. Jamie was ranking.
• 40:10
  Speaker 9: Number twenty five right now, Duke isn't ranked at all,
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: So does that get them in the rankings. That's going
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: to be an interesting one for the committee if that
• 40:20
  Speaker 9: all unfolds.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Duke's had five losses, right, I mean it's kind
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: of hard to rank a team with five losses. Who lost?
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I mean they lost to NC State and it wasn't
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: counted as a conference game because.
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: It was already lost to Yukon.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, final question for you, who do you think
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: actually can win? If you had to tear these out?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Who can win the national championship?
• 40:40
  Speaker 9: Certainly Ohio State, I think Georgia, you know, I I
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: think Indiana has played well enough. I'm gonna win at
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: Oregon tells me a lot that they should be a
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: contender as well. And then I look at the way
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: Notre Dame is playing, look at the way Notre Dame
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: played last year in the playoffs, and it makes me
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: think that they can win a national championship too if
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: they get in. That's another going to be another interesting
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: debate by the selection committee.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: No Texas Tech, No Oregon.
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: Look, I mean Texas Tech's front seven, in their quarterback
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: and how.
• 41:27
  Speaker 9: He's played. Uh, they have the they have the tools
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: I think to do it. I don't think there's any
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: doubt about that. And we've seen Oregon just doesn't seem
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: to the level it was last year. Obviously, it lost
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: in the first game last year to Ohio State in
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: the weird format and the weird playoff format. But I
• 41:48
  Speaker 9: think to a degree, all you know, all these teams,
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: all these Power conference teams that make the playoff have
• 41:55
  Speaker 9: a good chance, you know, to make a run. And
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: like I said earlier, it's kind of like the playoff
• 42:01
  Speaker 9: expanded enough where it's kind of like the NCAA tournament.
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: If you get in, who knows who could happen.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: On Instagram, Ross Underscore Dellinger and also check out College
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Football inquirer uh the podcast and yeah, thanks for the time.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I've been reading a lot of your lane stuff, so yeah,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: excellent job. And tell the tell Juice the Cat. We said,
• 42:19
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• 42:21
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• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Now we're going to go over to former NFL wide
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: receiver Alan Robbinson. He played for the Jaguars, the Bears,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: the Rams, the Steelers, the Lions. After a dominant college
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: career at Penn State, where he was a two time
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Big Ten Receiver of the Year, we talk about this.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: He hasn't officially retired yet, but we get into it.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: But he does a lot of coverage on the NFL
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: now and you can check him out at Alan ro
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Robinson eleven. Here he is Alan Robinson. Hey, we were
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: having a little debate Allan, because there's a graphic of
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: you that we have up on the screen and it's
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you as a lion. But then around the room it
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, should it be a jaguar?
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Should he be a bear? Like what would you have
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: made you on the graphic?
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Ooh, that's a great question. I probably would say a bear.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: That's probably what I would go with.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Bear. I would say bear or jaguar. I'm kind of torn,
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: For myself, I talk about it all the time on which,
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: you know, when it comes time to retire and what
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: team I want to retire. As you know, I'm still
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: kind of split down the middle.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a understand bad graphic. We like to apologize
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: for our lion graphic. There, Alan, listen, listen, I got
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of love for Detroit.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: I'm from Detroit, you know, so it's all good.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: And you played multiple sports too, right, Were you a
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: track star?
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: No, I was a basketball player. You know, I was
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: a big basketball player. I tell everybody, man just over
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: even now, you know, still and in my lifetime, I've
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: spent countless numbers of hours more in the gym than
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I did on the field.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Did you think you might play basketball at the next level?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: And when did it go from basketball to football?
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: I did, you know, even then, you know, having some
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: small offers in high school, you know, basketball wise, for me,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: it shifted my junior season. After my junior season in
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: high school football wise, kind of when I shifted my
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: focus going into my senior year for myself, you know,
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: that's kind of I was a three star recruit, I think.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: But you know, even a lot of that was from
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: I didn't go to any like Nike football camps or
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: I didn't go to anything like that.
• 45:27
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: For me, I was mainly playing AAU.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: You know, I was in California, Las Vegas, Arizona over
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: the summer, you know, playing in these kind of tournaments.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: You played at Penn and I have NFL questions too,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: But I'm just generally curious about your career and that
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: you played at Penn State and you you know, you
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: lead the Big ten of receptions, and but it's cold.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: If you'd have played somewhere warmer, don't you feel like
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: you could have just balled out so much harder?
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: You know, I'll say this, I mean, that's that's possible.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, you know, I think for me,
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: especially my sophomore junior year, was a combination of getting
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Bill O'Brien and there he was a guy who trusted
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: me through and through to be able to give me
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: those opportunities, you know, And he also was a guy
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: who came from New England, you know, so rain, sleet,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: snow hill.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: He was going to throw the rock.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: It was only a couple of games that I can
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: remember where you know.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: The elements affected us passing the ball, and like I
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: said before, that was only a couple of times.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Whenever you're getting ready for the draft, and I think
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: you in the second round, like what were they telling
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: you pre draft? Where did you think you'd go? Who
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: did you think you'd go to and then how did
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: it shake out?
• 46:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Actually I thought I was gonna go to the Carolina
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: Panthers the week of the draft. So the draft was
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: on a Thursday, I believe that, Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: I spent those three days talking to Carolina receiver coach.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: He came to Detroit.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: We spent time in my high school on the board
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: watching film for about three days, you know, so he
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: got to know me extremely well.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: And it felt as if you know that that was
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: a viable option as far as where I would go.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Why didn't you go there?
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: What happened drafting Kelvin Benjamin?
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: And you know, sometimes how the draft works is everybody
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: has people a little bit different on their board a
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: little bit. And when I say different, I mean a
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: little bit different than when you have like the top
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: mix shades and stuff like that. Like everybody's border is
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: a little bit different. So Kelvin Benjamin may have gotten
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: taken early. You know, I think that they may have
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: drafted me.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: But then you go somewhere warm, you go to Jacksonville,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, how did that feel good to play ball
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: where it's not freezing cold?
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: It did you know, and and also for myself, you know,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: that was what I wanted to do my mind. Even
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: in college.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: You know, I would tell people that I wanted to
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: go somewhere hot when it came to the NFL, so granted,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: I would. I would joke at everybody and say it
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: was Jacksonville, you know, which for me wasn't ideal. But
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it was hot, and
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: now was something that I asked for.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to be warm, like I have to
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: wear gloves just to stay warm. You wear gloves to
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: catch ball. I hate cold weather. By the way, onland.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: If you can't tell, hey, so you feel you you're
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: done though now right like you're done, you're done, you're retired.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: I'm not retired yet, so I mean, you know, at
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, I'm a I'm a I'll
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: feel out to see where my body is at next
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: spring and stuff like that. You know, I would say
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: that I'm definitely closer to retirement than any other time
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: that I've been in you know, which also may be
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: an option next spring.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: But I'm not. I'm not totally done yet. I wouldn't.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't completely close the door, you know, Obviously, we've
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: saw receivers in other positions come back after being a
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: year out of ball, just as far as getting their
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: body right and stuff like that.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: So are you training you stay in shape like football
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: shape that ye oh yeah, I'm yeah, I'm in shape.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Man, I do the same trend that I've been doing,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: you know, even even when I was active on a
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: team or playing. You know, I was on a treadmill
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: last week, you know, doing some high high volume sprints.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: You know, I hit twenty three miles an hour, you know.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: So I'm still in great shape. Man, I'm in great shape.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: If a team called right now, you can take the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: call right now.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: And that's based on a few different things, you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: again just kind of you know, I've been in this
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: situation before. When how much you have to learn of
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: a playbook and stuff like that. You know, I've kind
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: of closed closed the door on this year, you know.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: But being able to possibly get on the team next
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: year for OTAs or in the spring, you know, that
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: would be a better option for me rather than jumping
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: on a moving train right now. That'd be a little
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: bit tough as far as and that's more so the
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: mental aspect.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Of it all.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I was listening to your analysis and then I was
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: also watching some of your clips on Instagram. You guys
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: can go Alan Robinson eleven and like watch you talk
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: about ball. How do you like that version of your
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: career now where it's you talking about it instead of
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: playing it.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: I enjoy it, you know.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: I look at myself as kind of like a savant
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: a little bit when it comes to football, as far
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: as knowing the x's and o's, knowing the ins and outs.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: You know, that was something that I prided myself on
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: my career. So being able to, you know, speak on
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: that I feel very comfortable with because, like I said before,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: whether that's in meeting, communicating to my teammates, communicating to
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: my coaches, coverages, different things up front with the with
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: the O line and stuff like that, being able to
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: have a good grasp with everything that's going on.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: I took pride in that.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: We talked about the Bears earlier. I want to start
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: with the Bears right now. If the playoff started, they'd
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: be the number one seed in the NFC. How about
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: those Bears? Like, how real are the Bears this year?
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: I think they're real?
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: You know, especially now as they're starting to gain confidence
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: to pick up steam, and you know, at the end
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: of the day, they've taken the personality of their coach.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: You know, I've said since day one, Ben Johnson is
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: the real deal. You know from the way that he coaches,
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: how detailed he is. For him, he coaches his best
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: in crunch time and in close games, so his teams
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: tend to play the best at that point in time too.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: You know, he's not a guy who's, you know, gonna
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: get tight when it comes to play calls and stuff
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: like that. Man, he's going to empty the clip and
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: he expects his players to do the same.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: And I get that different humans have different personalities. But
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: when you say a coach is detail oriented, did you
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: ever have a coach that just didn't give a crap
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: about details? You don't have to say who you don't
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: have to say, who say?
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say, didn't give a crap about details. But
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: I think there are coaches who are a little bit
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: more detailed oriented when it comes to specific splits, specific depths,
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: how those things happen. Because you do have some some
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: offenses and stuff that's more schematic, and you do have
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: some offenses that's more matchup.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Base, and so the schematic would be the more detailed,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: like you have to do things exactly based on the
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: scheme more so than who you're up against.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Exactly schematics and timing rather than some matchup based schemes
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: are a little bit more loose and you know, the
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: quarterback may wait on your timing a little bit more
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: than more of a scheme based offense that's predicated on timing.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: What about Dallas Cowboys. You're talked about the Cowboys these
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: last few weeks. They look pretty good defensively, they're playing
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: much better. You think they can make the playoffs.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: They started off slow, so I think it has to
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: do with the other teams around them. Do I think
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: they're a caliber a playoff caliber team right now at
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: the moment. Yes, And even how we just kind of
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: talked about matchup versus scheme, I think when you look
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: at them, they have a lot of matchup based stuff
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: in their offense, which gives Dak Prescott to kind of
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: hold on his back foot, wait for George Pickens, wait
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: for CD Lamb and then be able to just give
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: those guys opportunities. And that's contested as well, because you know,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: to kind of follow up on the schematic thing is,
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: you have some coaches and I even heard Ben Johnson
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: say that since press conference, you have some coaches who
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: don't believe fifty to fifty balls are good opportunities for
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: the offense as opposed to you look at a team
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: like the Dallas Cowboys. They'll throw George Pickings fifty fifty
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: balls any day of the week.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like two of just those all fifty fifty
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: balls your thoughts, he does, and.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: Within it's funny because they're more of a they're more
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: of a schematic based offense, you know, so you can
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: kind of understand how that may not play into that,
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: you know, into the what the Miami Dolphins are are doing,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: you know, for him throwing fifty fifty balls in an
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: offense as majority scheme.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Base Chiefs are six and six. This is a now
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: that one of these teams going into this week, it's
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: pretty much an elimination game as they play the Texans.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: You think the Chiefs make the playoffs.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: They have a tough row to head, you know, again
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: playing against the Houston Texans this week, I mean we've
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: saw what their front is like and defensively what they're doing.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: So do I think they have a shot? Yes? Do
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: I think they'll get in?
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: No?
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: When you look at the NFC, it's just a cluster
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: of a bunch of these teams that have three losses
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: to four losses, but all of them are good. Seattle,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: San Francisco we talked about the Bear, the Rams. Rams
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: had a bad loss last week to Carolina, But you
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: have a lot of really good teams, but really not
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: a team that has raised their hand to say, hey
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: on that team, who do you think it is in
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: the NFC?
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: I may have to say to Seahawks.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: And I say to Seahawks because watching their defense and
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: their run game. You know, throughout the course of the season,
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: their defense has continuously got better, They've been relatively healthy,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: they have a good run game, they have a playmaker
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: in Jackson Smith and Jingba, and you know, when it
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: comes to teams making deep playoff runs and being true contenders,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: that's the makeup for it. Obviously, you have the Rams,
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: who have probably the best quarterback in the NFC and
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: who's playing the best right now, and they have a
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: good defense as well. But I think Seattle Seahawks defense
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: is a little bit more playmaking as far as how
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: many turnovers they've been able to force and how they've
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: capitalized on those throughout the course of the season.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: The Eagles are struggling offensively, would you put us solely
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: on the offensive line, like what's happening there?
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: I put it on the offensive coordinator.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: And I say that because when you kind of go
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: back to the origin of Nick Sirianni and just him
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: being a eleven base personnel kind of guy and the
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: scheme that was originally brought there for me, Like I said,
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: all the time, when there's numerous players Jalen Hurt, Sakwon Barkley,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Devonte Smith, AJ Brown, Dallas Godd, when you aren't getting
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: even the old line as well, when you aren't getting
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: the best out of a collective group, I can't just
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: put it all on those guys to say that they
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: chose to not play their best. At the same time,
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: to me, that's more of an offensive scheme thing and
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: some things needed to be tweaks needing to be made.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what they're running and how they're
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: doing it, but I do know that it's not working.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: And when you look at it, everything just seems to
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: be off across the board on all levels of what
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: they're doing on offense.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: What do we learn about the coaching hires? Because you
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: have Vrabel Patriots are killing it. You have Liam Cohen
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: and Jacksonville they're winning. You got Ben Johnson Chicago they're winning.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: You're talking about three teams that did not win and
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: now here they all all performing well above what they
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: did last year. Like, what do we learn from all
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: those coaching hires this season?
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: Well, I'll say this, I think one thing that we
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: learned is last year was a phenomenal coaching carousel as
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: far as the options that were there.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, I don't think every year
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: is equal to that.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: You know, like this year as far as coaches, like,
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: there'll be some names thrown around, but when you look
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: at some teams looking to add coaches, is who is
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: that gonna be? You know, there may be some big
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: names that are fired, you know, hopefully for some guys
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: that are looking to make a big splash. But I
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: don't think that every coaching carousel is created equally as
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: Like last year, you had a lot of big names,
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: you had experience in Mike Rabel, you had Ben Johnson,
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: who was you know, the hottest offensive mind the same
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: with Liam Cohen. You know, you look at where he's
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: come from and his tree and what he's done, you know,
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if that is you know, current
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: As far as the coaches that are coming up.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Don't you look at the Titans and listen, we're a
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: national show, but we live in Nashville. Like to fire
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Vrabel like that might have been the dumbest move in
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: coaching in the past five years, right.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: I agree, you know, And again, where do you go
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: from Rabel?
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: And now they're back at the drawing board as far
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: as being able to bring in a coach, And I mean,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: like you said before, you're in Nashville for the Tennessee Titans.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: What are some of the names that you would say
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: that what kind of.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: Maybe steer the boat back in the right direction and
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: get back on track or kind of maybe get it
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: to where Rabel was.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, and again I think that's extremely tough acts.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and because they don't invest here like that. There's
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: a reason that they call this a poverty program. Like
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: there's a reason that the Titans usually weren't good even
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: with a great coach like Vrabel had some really good teams,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: but now you see those were Rabel led teams, not
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Titans organization teams, like, there are certain organizations that are
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: just not good.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: Right, Listen, that's a that's a full conversation for another day.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: I think as a player, you get that and you
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: understand that once you go to a few places that again,
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: everything is not created equal in the NFL as far
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: as organizationally, you know, facility wise, what the standard is,
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: cafeteria wise, across the board. Man, everything is not created equally.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: And sometimes you have those teams in a like you
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: were saying, in a situation where they have Mike Rabel,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: they can't contend. But other than that, you know, you
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: have teams where if they don't have a phenomenal coach
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: who's able to rally some good pieces around for the
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: most part, you know, they're just gonna kind of fade
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: to black, you know, and they'll be They'll be relevant
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: when I say they meaning some of the teams that
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: you're speaking of, they'll be relevant every blue moon, but
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: not consistently.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Titans, Cardinals, like just see there you go. No, yeah,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I keep going on that, but like you said that
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: that's for another day.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Did you have even Cincinnati?
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Look at they've just now got an indoor facility just
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: now to practice in. Yeah, all right, Look tell me
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: the truth. Best food. When you played who had the
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: best cafeteria?
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Best cafeteria food, I would say it's a tall between
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh and Detroit.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Both of those have very very good food, very good
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: food options.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: It's funny because when I was in Jacksonville, shout out
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: to Jacksonville, because I always joke and say, going into it,
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: it was like a for me, being a young player,
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: I didn't think too much of it.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: But and again they've made some addition.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: Shout out to the con family because they have made
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: some changes, you know, since they've taken over.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: And once I got there, they.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: Were relatively new to the ownership of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: But we didn't consistently eat in the cafeteria. A lot
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: of things that took place there. Going from Jacksonville to
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: Chicago to whereas you have an entire practice facility, you know,
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: where you come in there, you see all the trophies,
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: you see the cafeteria, you know, so it's been a
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: lot different, you know, from place to place, but fool wise,
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: I got to give.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: It to Pittsburgh or Detroit.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you one final question here, and we
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: appreciate the time, But when you were playing college ball,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: the hardest stadium to play in as a visitor.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: Hardest stadium to play in? Funny because I only played
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: I played at Ohio State twice.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: I won there once.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: I would say possibly Nebraska, and I say Nebraska because
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: the time that we played there, Man, not only is
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: it a pretty hostile environment, but the winds were absolutely ridiculous.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: You know, I know that's kind of smack dab in the.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: Midwest, you know, around what you have in that area Iowa,
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: I think Kansas and stuff is close and that in
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: that kind of region. And I always hear about the
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: win there, and sure enough, when we did play there,
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: we were trying to find pockets of the field and
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: stadium to pass the ball. Armember before the game, Bill
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: O'Brien coming to me like, listen, man, like there's gonna
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: be some spots where we could take some shots. But
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: right now, this stadium is like a complete wind tunnel,
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: and I don't know if we're gonna be able to
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: air it out.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: How we want it.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: So that was that was something that I always remembered
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: and I didn't know if it was like that, but
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: I know the same thing going to Iowa, fine wind tunnels, rain,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: but Nebraska was.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: A little bit more. It was a little bit more
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: turned up than Iowa was.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Hey, Alan, good luck if you decide to go back
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: and play ball again next year or you know, as
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: you continue your career and talking about football because you
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: obviously know the game as good as anybody. Like, good
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: luck and that we really appreciate the time. You guys
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: can follow Alan at Alan Robinson eleven on Instagram. Alan,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: hope you stay healthy, Hope you have a great holiday.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Man, thanks for having me all right.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: It's funny sometimes when you realize as an adult how
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: you relied to as a kid. And I told the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: story many times about me finding out about my dog
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: that was sent away to a farm. Oh yeah, and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I was forty years old when I found out.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, what, that's not what happened.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: That's not what happened.
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  Speaker 5: He died.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd put it down he bit people. Oh okay,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: but they told me that the Arkansas Keith's friend who
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: lived like on Alice, And I thought that my whole life.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: And then one day I was telling my wife and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: she was like, that's not true. No, you knew and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: you didn't know. No, she just knew. It was such
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: an absurd story. They send him to like out of town.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I never saw him again.
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  Speaker 5: And Bobby fell for it as a kid, you know,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: and I still was holding on to it.
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  Speaker 1: So I called him. He's like, no, I happened.
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  Speaker 5: He was dead shot it, man.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: He didn't even know that. He didn't even know that.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. Dang Eddie has a similar one about
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: the Mike Didco restaurant.
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  Speaker 5: This was like, I don't know, twenty years ago, nah,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: probably like fifteen years old, going to a child. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 5: I was about fifteen years ago. My wife and I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: go to Chicago and it's our first time there and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: we see there's a Ditkah's restaurant and I'm like, oh,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: Mike did go the Coach and like, let's go eat there.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: So we walk in there and it's pretty empty, but
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: the bartender's like, man, pick wherever you want to sit,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: and I was like, hey, does Mike Didka ever come right.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: He's like, did you just missed him? Five minutes ago?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: He was here, sent at the bar, had lunch and everything.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: You just missed him. I'm like, dangn, that's crazy. And
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: I thought about that my whole life, Like I could
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: have met Mike Ditka. Yeah, if you know, holy if
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: I would have gotten there five minutes sooner, I could
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: have met Mike Didka. I was telling a friend of
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: mine from Chicago. I go this story, and he goes, oh, dude,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: they tell that to everyone like he's never there, you know,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: But like they say that so that you can say, like, yeah, dude,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: you missed him five minutes ago, he was here, come
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: back again. He might come back tonight.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: That's smart, damn.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 11: Or just that you tell people about it. Yeah, he
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 11: goes there all the time about the bar, so dude,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 11: and like this was just the other day, and I
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 11: was like, I've thought that he was really there my
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 11: whole life.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: Did your buddy give you crap for it?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Felt you really thought he was Like I thought you
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: were a child. They're like thirty years old when that happened.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: That restaurant's crazy though. They have a Bloody Mary drink
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: that's called I think Mike's Bloody Mary because Mike, Mike
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: obviously drinks it. Probably just had one for you got
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: there when he was drinking five minutes before I got there.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: And it has like a chicken finger in it, it
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: has like a hot dog in it, it has shrimp
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: in it. It's just loaded. It's the biggest drink I've
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: ever seen in my life.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: And like, did you get one? No?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't even drink that, got it?
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: That's too much.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: I got a couple of things before we jump. So
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I saw this clip and it was Odell Beckham talking
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: about the struggles of one hundred million dollar contract and
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: how it's cutting half and now you can't have generational
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Well here is Odell Beckham Junior talking about this on
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: the Pivot podcast.
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  Speaker 12: Always explained this to people. I'm like, bro, you give
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 12: somebody a five year, one hundred million dollar contract, right,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 12: what is it?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 8: Really?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 12: It's five years for sixty we're getting text that's twelve
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 12: a year. You know that you have to spend us, save, save, invest,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 12: flaunt like whatever. However, just being real, I'm a buy
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 12: a car, I'm getting my mama house. I'm gonna do
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 12: everything costs money. So you if you spending four million
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 12: dollars a year, that's really forty million over five years,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 12: eight a year, you know, and now you start breaking
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 12: down the numbers, it's like that's a five year span
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 12: of where you're getting eight mill?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 8: Can you make that last forever?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 12: And now you always hear the people who ain't us
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 12: and ain't been in the position be like, oh.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Well that one last life time?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: What is he talking? There ever been more out of
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: touch human?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: What is he talking about?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: You can make that last? Yeah, you can make that lot.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: You gotta take that middle part out though, where you're
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: gonna spend a little.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: Bit of me my car, I go spend a little
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: his spen.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Then after you do all the spending, like an eight
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: million levels yeah, put into uh, like there's stuff that
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: we do that we put it into these accounts. I
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: don't know what they are, and it just gets interested.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: It's not even like a bank account and all that.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: And then also it's like investment accounts too, where people
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: like manage these massive accounts and there are just ways
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: that you make money if you have money.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: It's crazy now I understand being given sixty million dollars
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: it's tempting, right, Like I just made sixty million dollars,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: like right now, it's in my hands. I can buy
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: a boat like I get the spending is tempting, and
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: he has. But you can make generational wealth with that money.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: Also his endorsements, though he didn't even talk about that.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: I mean salary Obie Jay is when he was in
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: his prime, like ten years ago, whatever it was, he
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: was everywhere.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: His cars, he's got at three out of fifty thousand dollars,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Rolls Royce A three hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Ferrari A two hundred and twenty thousand dollars, Lamborghini Hurricon Spider.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: That's how you say that. So he's got Okay, at.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: That point, you're not thinking about your generation, like the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: next generation, right, You're thinking about you.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: And he's got a kid too.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: I'm sure the kid will be fine.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: I'm sure you will too.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: But that's crazy to think. And here is the unfair
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: thing about what he starts with. Well, if you get
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars, you get tax. Well if somebody
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: makes eighty thousand dollars a year, they also get tax.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Now it's not the exact same tax rate. But it's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: also not a clear eighty thousand dollars. It's sixty three
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: thousand or whatever the tax So it's not like only
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: rich get money taken off to everybody does. So whatever
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: you claim, the taxes come out of it.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: But I do see. I see what he's saying with
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: you think it's this much, but it's after taxes.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: It's but it's the same things. Somebody says I'm make
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: a hundred thousand a year. They're not getting a hundred
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars in a year, right.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: But when you say millions, it seems like a whole
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: different ballgame.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: But it's the same.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: It is the same. You're right anyway, I thought that's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: a funny.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Clip, really really really out of touch. A drunk ninety
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: year old man in California survived after crashing his car
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: into a coffee shop on Thanksgiving. The shop was closed
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: at the time. We talking about old people doing stuff.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: Yes, I wonder if you're recovered.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's twenty return yeah, return tools. Car plowed into
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: the Los Gatos Coffee roasting company. Oh Thanksgiving night, that's
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: what that is.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Those According to police, the driver was a ninety year
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: old man. Nobody was inside the shop at the time.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: It was close for the holiday. The driver was hospitalized
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: and now listed in stable condition. Police aren't investigating the incident. KSBW.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: This is nothing like that. But I remember when I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: I was at the beach, you know, and they have
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: those go cart races, okay, and we was time to
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: you know, they put the red light, like all right,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: I put the cart back and it was like last
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: lap and I was going and everyone had already in
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: front of me. Put the cart back and people were
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: getting out of their go car arts, and like, I
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: hit the gas instead of the break. Dude, I nailed
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: all of them. People were falling out and everything, and
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: I'll never forget that. It's probably what this old man
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: felt like when I don't know what he did, but
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: he maybe hit the gas instead of the break. I've
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: been there, done it.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 9: He didn't.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: It wasn't a coffee shop.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: I didn't go in a coffee shop. But I'll never
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: forget people's face, like what are you doing and the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: guy hit the brake, don't hit the gas.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: That sucks.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: I'll never forget it.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's it.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: Anything guys go cow it's a local thing. But Vanderbilt, man,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: they're up and coming. Those recruits see him flipping.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, to have money, I know, it's great.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: Who's giving them that money? Nate Pergatzi, I don't know.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know whe they're getting the I'm not giving
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: them money. It's not my team. Uh, yes, to have money.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: I mean the Arkansas guy came in and who's our
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: new coach? Sover felt and got a bunch of the
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Arkansas recruits in the state, like the top four of
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: the five that were other places, and people are like,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: manage really changing it up. No, No, he just has
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: more money now, that's what it is. People are more
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: confident in him than the last administration, so they're giving
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: him more money to go and spend on players coming in.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: So it's not about coaches giving a better speech in
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: the living room.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, with clerk Lee, he's legit. But they're al he's
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: getting more money because he's turned it around with Diego
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: and all that and confidence in donors.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: They got the number one quarterback the five Star Warslus
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: is going to Georgia.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 6: Right down the street here.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Oh he's from a Yeah, and he was going to
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Georgia and he's going to Georgia. I knew that. I
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: didn't know he lived here though, Yeah, what's the name.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: I saw him?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't recognize it either. It wasn't like Willie Peyton
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: or anything. Willie Manning Peyton's other nephew.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: When when you like give money to school, do you
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: have to give it to him right away? Or can
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: you like pledge it.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Different? There's not a real there's still no like yeah
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: wild West. You can do whatever you want. But most
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: of the time the stuff that I've done just giving
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: them the money straight up yeah, or I've just committed
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: to doing nils outside of because you can do that.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: You can hire people. It doesn't have to go you
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: have to clear it through like the people that go
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: anything over five hundred ninety nine dollars. You have to
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: go through a board that says, okay, this is actual
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: nil money because you are using them for name, image
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: and likeness. Before that, a collector could just come together
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: and go, we just promise you all this money if
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: you come to play for us, Like there's no name,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: image likeness, it's just we just promise you this money.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: You can't only do that the same anymore.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 6: This might be in the weeds too much. And I
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: don't know if you can say it or not. But
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: like when you put when you donate into the NIL,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: do they tell you exactly where it's going?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: It's not really so now it's more profit sharing. You
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: can do NIL outwork there. There are a lot and
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: everybody does it differently. The policing is so different. There's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: no policing.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: I just know if you're like, hey, I'm giving you
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: ten thousand dollars on course, yeah this guy or this program,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: not the basketball football.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Some schools probably do that, but I think that if
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: you're going to do that, they would want you to
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: do yourself. Gotcha give it to them directly well, and
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: then they did work their name image like this part
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: of it because players also are getting paid not through
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: an IL, through profit share with a twenty million or
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: so that each school gets now and they're committing money
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: to each person that way. That profit share equal no, yes,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: yes and no, but not for power depending on if
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: you play in like G five power.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: Four, but the quarterback gets the same.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, not at all. No, no, no, no,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: I thought you meant to eat. Did the schools get
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: about the same amount of money. No, no, no, I
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: mean yes to that, but not all schools do because.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: They'll create they don't. Yeah, right, the revenue, right, but no.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: No, if you want a great player, you pay them
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: more money.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, And I've probably said a couple of things wrong
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: and all of that depending on what school you're a
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: fan of. I just know how a few schools do it,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: and those are different ways than other schools are doing it.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: The how it's done is still so wide open, and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't really win a lawsuit lose a lawsuit either
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: way because there are no real rules.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 8: That's crazy.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: You think Sam Houston State would take five hundred dollars.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: I think you can donate to the foundation or you could. Yeah,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I mean I think there's a way to do it.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: Yes, I mean, you know, like give him like a
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: hundred hundred bucks and I ow, baby, what are you
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: gonna get like a backup hunter? I don't know.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Whatever they want to use to quarterback.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: In Texas in high school right now, I'm like, hey, man,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: you use it wise the boys Samson State?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: All right, We're done.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 6: Jared Curtis, By the way, what's up? Jared Curtis is
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: his name is the quarterback?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Eddy boy, all right, Thank you guys, see you
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