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MINI SCROLL: Hailey Bieber pregnant, HaleyyBaylee apology + Celebrity Blocklist 2024 · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone. Welcome to Mini Scroll, the
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  daily Internet culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories
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  from social media, the creator economy, and the digital space.
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  Every Monday through Thursday, I'm your host, Lauren Meisner,
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  the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
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  Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone.
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  We've had a small glow up for the YouTube girlies.
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  some storage in our office and it is housing now.
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  Our mini scroll sign which I feel like is perfect and our Rd.
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  mixer and I got this curtain. I did iron it, I brought it home
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  and I ironed it. It doesn't look like I did but I
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  swear I did and I hung it up over the green wall.
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  OK no more green wall. So I feel like we are one more
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  step there with the setup. The lighting is still not
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  exactly perfect. I feel like it makes me look old
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  and haggard, but we will get there anyways.
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  On to the stories for today because we have a lot to cover.
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  So I'm going to start with the happy news first and then I'm
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  going to get into some more serious stuff.
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  So the first story that I have for you guys is that Haley and
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  Justin Bieber are expecting their first child.
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  So Haley and Justin Bieber are going to be parents.
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  The couple announced the news of Haley's pregnancy via Instagram
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  this weekend with a photo shoot of the couple in the desert.
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  Haley was dressed in a vintage Lacy like wedding dress esque
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  gown and there's all these pictures of Justin taking her
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  photo and the two of them together.
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  It's actually like a beautiful photo shoot.
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  It reminds me a lot of, I mean that kind of aesthetic is just
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  like really in right now for like wedding and announcement
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  type of like romantic photo shoots.
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  It's very like Lana Del Rey. It reminds me a lot of Kourtney
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  Kardashian and Travis Barker's like first wedding when they got
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  married just at the Chapel together, their first like
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  wedding vibe. Shortly after announcing the
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  news, however, Justin's mom commented on Instagram causing a
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  bit of controversy when she wrote that the couple will make
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  the most beautiful grand babies, leading to speculation that they
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  were expecting twins. Justin's mom quickly shut down
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  the speculation in the comments, saying that she just meant like
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  in general they will make beautiful grand babies for her.
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  And then a Rep before Haley confirmed to Entertainment
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  Tonight that she is about 6 months along, a source told the
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  outlet Quote Haley and Justin are thrilled to be expecting a
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  baby together. They have wanted this for a long
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  time and can't wait to expand their family and bring a child
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  into the world. Haley and Justin are united and
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  have been on the same page when it comes to parenthood.
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  They've experienced so much together as a couple and feel
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  ready to take this next step in their lives and relationship.
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  Haley is such a natural caretaker and Justin knows she
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  will be the best mom and Haley has always thought that Justin
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  will make an amazing dad. Haley Justin, their families and
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  loved ones are so excited for this beautiful blessing.
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  Cute love that. I mean.
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  Not surprising, the Bieber's have been very open even with
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  the public about their desire to have children and I feel like
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  maybe they were waiting for their health.
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  Like both of their health has not been great in the past few
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  years. So both of their health issues
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  to kind of, you know, subside a bit before they ventured into
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  this journey. But here we are.
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  All right. The next story that I have for
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  you guys is that Haley Bailey or AKA Haley Khalil has apologized
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  for her Met Gala let them eat cake video.
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  So last week Tik Toker Haley Bailey posted a video at the Met
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  Gala dressed in a Marie Antoinette inspired dress and
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  lip synced the sound. Let them eat cake.
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  Watch last Thursday's mini scroll for a full breakdown on
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  why this rubbed people so the wrong way, but it so did.
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  It made people so upset and it kicked off this massive backlash
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  which I will get to in my next story of like this.
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  It kicked off like a movement essentially against celebrities.
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  So I think the initial strategy was maybe for Haley to avoid
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  addressing this. She didn't address it, she
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  didn't even take her video down and she just kept posting like
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  normal for days and days. And then this movement, which I
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  will address in my next story, kicked off and I feel as though
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  she is worried now that she will never be invited to any of these
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  like elite events again. Because celebrities and
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  influencers and PR people and just everyone in the industry is
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  probably so frustrated with her right now.
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  So she has made an apology video.
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  Hey, guys. I know what a lot of you guys
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  want from me right now is answers and I want nothing more
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  than to give them to you. So hopefully I can answer every
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  question that you have about what happened on Monday night.
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  About a week and a half before the Met Gala I was contacted by
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  E to see if I had any interest in being a pre Met Gala host.
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  There are usually three hotels that celebrities leave from to
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  go to the Met Gala. I was stationed at what's called
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  the Mark I was supposed to do content with celebrities and on
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  air about their departures to the Met.
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  The Met is one of the most exclusive events in all of
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  fashion. You have to be handpicked by
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  Anna Winter herself to go. That's the only way that you get
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  there. I was not.
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  I was not invited by Anna Wintour.
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  I did not hold an actual invitation to the Met Gala.
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  I was involved only as a host, meaning that the moment that the
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  last attendee left the hotel, I went home and I watched the Met
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  Gala coverage from my couch with my friends.
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  That is also why you haven't seen any photos of me on the
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  white and green carpet for the Met Gala, because I was working
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  at the mark and I literally wasn't even invited to the Met
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  Gala, so security would have definitely dragged me out.
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  I paid no amount of money to go to the gala because I wasn't
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  invited. Since I was little, I have
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  idolized the Met. I love the costumes and the
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  design and it has always been one of my biggest dreams to be
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  invited to attend. After entering content creation,
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  I was told that those dreams are nearly impossible if you are not
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  in one of the inner circles of fashion.
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  So when E reached out to me with interest in being a pre Met Gala
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  host, I immediately said yes because I just wanted to get
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  even remotely close to it just to like see the thing I had
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  idolized for so long. I was at the mark, which is on
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  77th St. and the Metropolitan Museum is on 82nd St. so that's
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  about as close as I was allowed to get to the Met Gala People
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  that you saw behind me in my videos were people that were
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  lined up outside the mark to do the exact same thing as me,
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  which was get content with celebrities as they departed for
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  the Met. The dress that I wore was made
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  by hand by a friend. Mark is one of my nearest and
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  dearest friends. I met him back when I was
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  modeling and we just stayed friends.
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  So then when all of this red carpet stuff started happening
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  for me, I reached out to him and he started to help me and and
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  make dresses for me by hand out of literally the kindness of his
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  own heart. I have never paid him a cent.
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  He has never paid me. We just work on the dresses
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  together because we find it to be really fun.
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  Every single dress I've worn on a carpet this year has all been
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  made by hand by Mark. I have not paid anyone anything.
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  I haven't bought dresses. I haven't paid designers.
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  Mark is the only person that I have worked with.
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  Mark does not have a factory. Mark does not employ a bunch of
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  people to work on these dresses. Every single dress he has made
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  for me, he's made by himself, with no one else's help by hand,
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  out of literally nothing more than the kindness of his own
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  heart. And he's one of the only reasons
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  I've even been able to do what I've done this year, because I
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  wouldn't have had the dresses to go to these events if it hadn't
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  been for him. This now brings me to the audio
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  that I used for that particular video.
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  And first and foremost, before I say anything, I need to
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  apologize. I am so, so, so sorry that I
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  chose a sound that you guys could ever possibly feel was
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  malicious in nature. If I had thought for even one
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  second that the sound would be received that way, I never ever
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  ever ever ever ever ever would have used it.
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  When I film my Tik Toks, I love to use trending audios and
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  sounds that people are currently using, and this was one of them.
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  The sound has been used in over 110,000 TikTok videos.
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  It's the current trending audio of a glow up trend in the United
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  States and abroad. It's also been used by different
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  makeup artists in the last couple weeks to create Marie
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  Antoinette looks. Let them eat cake.
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  He take the bomb. He take the bomb.
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  And it's been used by big and small craters alike, with no
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  negative feedback or no negative discussion in the comments.
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  Let them eat cake. He take the.
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  Let them eat cake. He take the.
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  Let them eat cake. He.
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  Take. The.
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  Let them eat cake he take. The.
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  The sound choice truly had no deeper meaning.
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  I never would have chosen a sound on purpose to highlight
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  wealth disparity or elitism. I never even thought it would be
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  taken in that way because I wasn't elite enough to even be
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  invited to the Met Gala. Because I'm not elite, I'm a
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  normal person. My dumb self just used an audio
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  that I thought was viral and trending and that people
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  recognized from the Marie Antoinette 2006 movie.
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  Let them eat cake. I didn't think that much into
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  it, and for that I am so sorry. I did not do my due diligence
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  like I'm so stupid because the things going on in the world
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  today are weighing heavily on everyone's hearts.
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  Innocent men, women and children are dying.
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  People do not have access to food and water.
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  People are being kicked out of their homes.
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  There are so many things going on in this world that are just
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  wrong. I know that this situation is
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  very complex. I also know that I don't know
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  the right thing to do or say a lot of the time, which leads me
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  to the question everyone is asking, which is why don't I
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  talk about it? And it's simply because I am not
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  informed enough to talk about it in a meaningful and educational
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  way. I do not have the background
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  knowledge to educate or discuss in a meaningful way.
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  I grew on social media as a comedy creator and I love
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  comedy. I love making videos and that's
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  how I gained my platform. But that doesn't mean that the
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  second I started gaining followers on the platform that I
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  automatically knew the right thing to say when it came to
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  world affairs or wars or disputes or death or destruction
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  or crisis. I still am just that same girl
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  who wanted to post her first comedy video a year and a half
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  ago on TikTok. But I do know that as somebody
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  with a big platform, it is my responsibility to always try to
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  be a positive voice and to always try to better myself and
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  be a good example for my audience, because I never want
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  to let them down. At the end of the day, I want to
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  make sure that my words are used for good, and when I don't think
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  that I'm informed enough on a situation, I try not to comment
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  until I am confident that I am actually informed and the things
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  that I'm saying are true. If the pandemic taught me one
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  thing, it was that sometimes celebrities and creators need to
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  sit down and be quiet so that other people's voices can be
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  magnified. The people that are actually
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  well educated and informed on the situation, they're the ones
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  who should be speaking about it. Just because somebody has a
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  following doesn't mean they're necessarily the right person to
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  speak on the issue, especially if they are ill informed or
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  uninformed on that issue. I do all of this on my own.
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  I don't have a fancy team that selects my sounds or edits my
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  videos or posts my videos or writes the caption.
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  I don't have an editor. I post everything myself.
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  Everything that you see was probably filmed by either me or
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  my boyfriend, edited by me, and then posted by me.
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  And sometimes I am dumb and sometimes I mess up.
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  Sometimes I don't correctly anticipate how people will react
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  or feel to something and for that I am truly so so so so
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  sorry. It breaks my heart that a video
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  that I posted has added to any of this.
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  It breaks my heart that a video that I posted has made anyone
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  feel less seen or less heard. So again, from the bottom of my
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  heart I am so sorry. You do not have to accept my
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  apology, but just know that I am so sorry and I really hope that
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  this sheds a light on all of these issues and opens up a very
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  important discussion at the end of the day.
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  I am glad though that an unintentional mistake has now
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  been the catalyst for discussing wealth inequality, world crisis,
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  and will hopefully bring about the leaders whose voices should
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  be heard in this. And again, I'm sorry.
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  It is my job as a content creator to apologize whenever I
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  make anyone feel unseen or unheard, even if it's
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  unintentional, and just know that no matter what, I love you.
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  Thank you for being here, and thank you for watching this
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  whole video if you made it this far.
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  Haley also commented on Mini Scrolls TikTok from Thursday.
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  She wrote. I did not know the historical
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  background of this quote. I thought it was a viral audio
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  from a 2006 movie. I am so sorry.
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  I would have never used it if I had known.
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  The video has been taken down. Like I said Thursday, I don't
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  think she made this video with I'll intentions.
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  I think she didn't think about it too much.
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  And that's kind of the point of what people are saying and
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  that's why people are mad, is that having the luxury to not
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  think about that and to not think about something like that
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  that you're posting in this current political and socio
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  economic climate is just so off base.
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  However, the backlash against Haley did get very intense, like
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  I said, and it has sparked this digital movement that started
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  over the weekend that users are now calling Block Out 2024.
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  So the ideology behind Block Out 2024 is to block mega
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  celebrities who have not spoken out about Palestine.
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  The first celebrity targeted, at least that I saw, was Kim
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  Kardashian. The idea was that if millions of
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  people block Kim, then she loses all these followers and she also
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  can't advertise to those people anymore and that will put
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  pressure on her to speak up. So the concept behind the
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  movement really makes sense. But I wanted to address some of
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  the criticisms against this movement and some of the
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  problems that I am seeing as an Internet culture expert
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  journalist who spends all my time literally on TikTok and
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  online scrolling through things. I'm not an activist expert by
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  any means, but from an Internet culture perspective.
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  So the problem that I'm seeing now is that too many users are
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  jumping in trying to be the organizers of this like digital
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  guillotine that we're calling it.
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  And there are now like hundreds of lists going around online of
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  who to block. So that makes it a less
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  impactful because it's not as targeted.
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  So the celebrities that are getting blocked are actually not
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  losing as many followers as they could be if we were going about
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  it in like an organized list, like day by day type of way #2
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  or BI forget if I said one or two or A or B, whatever.
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  The second one is that it's centering the celebrities and
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  the influencers in the conversation as opposed to a
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  centering Palestine. So an example of this is there's
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  a video that I saw yesterday of somebody talking about how they
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  hope Kim Kardashian loses more than just quote UN quote
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  3,000,000 followers. There's like a rumor going
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  around that she's already lost 3,000,000 followers.
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  I have not fact checked that I don't think that's quite true,
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  but regardless, even if she has, this video is a woman saying I
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  hope she loses more than 3,000,000 followers.
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  I open the comments on this video and it is just filled with
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  people. And this is just one example.
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  These examples are everywhere, but you know, it's just filled
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  with people saying, you know, I hope she has to work in retail.
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  I hope she loses so much that she ends up struggling to feed
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  her four children. I hope she learns what it feels
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  like to struggle to buy groceries and pay your rent at
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  the same time. Things like that, like people
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  explaining their hardships and saying they hope Kim feels that.
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  I understand the sentiment. I understand wishing that the
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  elite, that the billionaires of the world could feel the
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  struggles that we feel. But that is not the point of the
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  block list movement. The point of this movement is to
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  draw more attention to Palestine.
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  So by centering Kim in the conversation and hoping and
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  saying that you hope that she loses so much from this blocking
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  that she ends up, you know, having to work in retail or
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  whatever, which is like never going to be the point that she's
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  never going to have to work in retail.
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  OK. But regardless, by us saying
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  things like that, it dilutes the message.
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  The point of blocking Kim is not that we hope that she loses so
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  many followers that she has to go be a regular person.
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  The point is that it will get her attention.
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  It's the same way as, like when you e-mail your MP, for example,
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  and you're just flooding their inbox.
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  It's not because you're hoping that, you know, they get so
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  frustrated that they quit their job.
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  It's that you want to get their attention.
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  You're trying to get their attention to address the matter
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  that you want addressed. And so with Kim, it's like, yes,
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  we want to be able to like, hit her where it hurts, essentially
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  with this block list with everybody that is being blocked,
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  right? It's like hit them where it
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  hurts, block them so that they lose followers and therefore
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  lose revenue, and then maybe they will speak out about the
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  thing we want them to speak out about.
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  It's not about her losing so many followers or so much money
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  that she has to go work in retail.
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  It's not really about that. So I have just seen countless
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  videos and comment sections filled with people trying to
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  push their own like project their own stressors that they're
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  experiencing very valid stressors in the world right now
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  on these celebrities. That's not the point of the
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  block list and that is getting completely diluted, OK.
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  And the third thing that I'm seeing is that with too many
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  lists and too many organizers of these lists, there is no clear
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  movement anymore. So when it comes to this whole
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  situation, we need to really understand like what are the
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  criteria for celebrities to get on this list?
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  Because literally some lists that I have seen, you guys have
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  Bella Hadid on it. I don't even think I need to
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  explain why that is so off base for Bella Hadid to be on a block
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  list for not speaking up enough about Palestine.
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  She is Palestinian and she is literally been advocating for
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  Palestine for years and years and years, well before seven
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  months ago. We need to know why we're
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  blocking these people. We need to know what the end
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  goal is. Because like I just said, the
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  end goal is getting lost. I think the message is getting
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  lost and how can we ensure that this action is the most
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  productive to our end goal? There's a lot of disorganization
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  around the block list and therefore the tangible results
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  that we could be getting out of it.
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  I don't think we will. And this is not unique to the
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  block list. If we look back at BLM and the
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  black square situation that happened, you know everybody was
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  posting black squares on their Instagrams and hashtagging BLM
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  or Black Lives Matter. And what that ended up doing in
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  the end was flooding Instagram with black squares with the
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  hashtag. So when someone clicked on the
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  hashtag, instead of actually getting the right resources and
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  information from the organization or from people who
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  were helping in the movement, they just got a whole explore
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  page of black squares. And that drowned out all of the
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  actual information. And I think it's interesting to
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  think about how social media has been both a blessing to activism
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  and a curse. You know, of course, on the
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  blessing side of things, it is bringing so much awareness.
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  It is creating these digital movements that, you know,
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  otherwise people might have not even really cared to partake in
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  prior to social media, caring about these different causes,
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  raising money, helping out. It's obviously done a lot of
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  good, but on on the other hand, I think social media is really
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  interesting because if you think about pre social media, if you
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  wanted to engage in activism, you had to actively seek out an
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  organization. And when you became part of that
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  organization, there's a structure in place, there's a
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  hierarchy in place and you are following the organization's
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  leader and you are following their lead.
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  You're following their practices, their systems in
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  place, you know their rules, their guidelines you didn't walk
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  into. An organization and say I want
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  to help, let me take over. You know you walked in and you
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  said I want to help. How can I help?
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  And let me take your direction. There are systems in place when
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  it comes to activism to ensure that the work being done is
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  intentional and productive. But what I think is at the root
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  of all of this, I've been thinking about this so much this
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  weekend. What I think is at the root of
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  this is media literacy or a lack of media literacy.
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  So this is not new. We have seen over the last few
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  years how the world in general we struggle with a media
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  literacy problem. So again, before social media,
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  if you were getting information on a genocide for example, you
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  were getting it from a reliable source.
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  So you were reading about it in a newspaper, you were reading
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  about it even online, just like pre social media, even if it was
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  like you know a publishers website or something like that,
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  you were hearing about it on the news, on television.
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  Obviously most media entities have a bias.
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  They might lean left, they might lean right.
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  But regardless, the information that you were being presented
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  was from a fact based source, like a journalist, and they had
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  to vet the information and there were, you know, editors involved
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  and they were fact checkers involved.
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  And what you were getting at the root of it was factual
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  information. But now with social media,
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  obviously anybody can make a Twitter account and Instagram a
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  TikTok and claim to be an expert on things and try and start
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  their own movements and they can even buy verification from some
• 21:27
  of these platforms now so they look more legitimate.
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  So while yes, everyone right now should be informed about what is
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  happening in Palestine, like you would have to be quite literally
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  living under a rock to not know what is going on.
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  I think media literacy in terms of like people's action being
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  taken is so rarely part of the conversation and it's a big part
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  of the conversation. I think people genuinely don't
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  know how to vet a source. They don't know how to do proper
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  research like fact based research.
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  So what ends up happening is people want to get on board.
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  We are scrolling on TikTok and we're bombarded with all these
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  videos about a block list for example, and we want to partake.
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  That feels like an accessible, tangible way to make a
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  difference. But it's very difficult I think
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  a lot of times for the end user to vet the source that they are
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  getting this from, the creator that they are getting this from.
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  So with the block list, there's a lot of good intention behind
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  the initiative, but I think it's being derailed by the
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  disorganization of it all and by the end user not fully
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  understanding who they're getting these block lists from
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  and why they're doing it. And people don't want to be
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  complicit. They want to do good.
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  They want to get involved. We saw that with the black
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  square, you know, like it was a very easy, I mean and some
• 22:41
  people might say performative, but it was an easy way to get
• 22:44
  involved, an accessible way to get involved, to show your
• 22:47
  support. And it was not handled properly
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  because we didn't quite understand the end user, didn't
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  quite understand the purpose of the movement and the purpose of
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  that post. So I think to avoid this, I came
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  up with like a few. This is very high level.
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  Again, I am not an activist expert, so if you guys are
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  comment down below, give us some other tips.
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  But I think in terms of like an an academic perspective, like a
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  journalistic perspective, how you can vet better on TikTok to
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  make sure that you're actually like getting the most out of the
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  movements that you're engaging with.
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  Number one, I would say search the creator's name or the
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  organization's name on Google. This won't always bring up what
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  you want because I mean I was, I was actually just talking to a
• 23:29
  friend about this yesterday. But if you go on some of the
• 23:32
  major news outlets on in Australia for example, I live in
• 23:36
  Australia. I don't know if that's clear all
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  the time because I do have a Canadian accent, but I live in
• 23:40
  Australia. If you go on all the major news
• 23:43
  publishers, so many of them don't even have any story about
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  Palestine on the front page. So it's not always going to work
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  out this way. But Google an organization.
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  See if it has any reputable media coverage.
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  If you trust that media organization, if you don't know,
• 23:59
  if you trust a media organization also, just keep
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  looking into it. Google it.
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  Look at different people that follow that organization.
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  If you trust them. If a news article has, you know,
• 24:10
  experts quoted, look up those experts.
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  What do they stand for? What have people said about
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  them? Number two, I would say go to
• 24:17
  this person's profile. If it's like TikTok for example
• 24:19
  at or Twitter and somebody saying like block, all these
• 24:22
  celebrities go to their profile, look at who follows them, look
• 24:25
  at who they follow, look at if they have any other videos like
• 24:29
  this, who engages in their comments, Are they a reputable
• 24:32
  creator to be taking you know, direction from #3?
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  I would say if you really want to get involved in something and
• 24:39
  you want to learn more about it, you don't need to follow
• 24:42
  everyone that is posting about it because that is going to a
• 24:46
  bombard you and it's going to start to make you numb to the
• 24:49
  situation. You know, I think a big part of
• 24:51
  the problem too is that people with algorithms get bombarded by
• 24:54
  information about like one single topic and then they start
• 24:57
  to disengage. So you don't need to follow
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  everyone, Just find like one or two organizations or creators
• 25:04
  that are genuinely doing the work and follow them and take
• 25:07
  their lead. When it comes to Palestine, I
• 25:10
  would say Operation Olive Branch and Pass the Hat by Aaron
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  Hademer. Those are two creators,
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  organizations, movements to follow that I mean I would
• 25:20
  consider reputable. I would love to hear some other
• 25:23
  suggestions down below for sure. But I think the point that I'm
• 25:25
  trying to make after all of this is that activism is all about
• 25:29
  organization and organization has to remain central to these
• 25:33
  efforts. Otherwise it will end up another
• 25:36
  Black Square situation. All right, that's it for today
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