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Are the Tigers back in development mode? · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome in to another episode of Tiger Territory, part
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  Speaker 1: of the Foul Territory Network, Detroit Tigers podcast. I'm Kieran Steckley,
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  Speaker 1: and I got with me a couple dudes that are
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  Speaker 1: choosing Texas, I can tell. Cody Stabenhagen, Austin Jackson, what's
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  Speaker 1: up fellas, how we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, staying cool, staying cool down here, baby.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, I'm still in Detroit, man. Sometimes you got people
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  Speaker 3: thinking I live in Texas. I was born and raised there,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm in Detroit these days.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, and you were there, Cody, for this series against
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  Speaker 1: the Rays. So we'll just kind of dive in real quick.
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  Speaker 1: 4-1 loss, 4-1 win, and a 3-0 loss on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: We're recording this early evening on Wednesday. Obviously, this was
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  Speaker 1: always going to be a tough week, right? And especially
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  Speaker 1: given the way that the Tigers had been playing and
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  Speaker 1: the roster that they're putting out there. it was going
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  Speaker 1: to be sort of like a hope and a prayer
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  Speaker 1: type deals, maybe steal a game here and kind of
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  Speaker 1: get some momentum. The more likely thing to happen ended
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  Speaker 1: up happening.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: So, Cody, what can you kind of share with us?
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  Speaker 1: What's a vibe check right now in the clubhouse? Because
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  Speaker 1: it is it's not too late. But it's pretty late.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty late. So what do you got for us?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's getting late. I put this up on our graphic.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like the Tigers have had nine lives this season. Like, fittingly,
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  Speaker 3: these cats have kind of had nine lives. They've been
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  Speaker 3: down and out before, and they kind of come back
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  Speaker 3: each time. But now we are at August 26th, 27th,
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  Speaker 3: about 30 games left in the schedule. This might be
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  Speaker 3: your last life. You're now five games out of the
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  Speaker 3: wild card at the time we're recording this. You've lost
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  Speaker 3: 10 out of 12. In terms of the vibe, you
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  Speaker 3: look around this room, Kieran, is a lot different than
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  Speaker 3: it was even one month ago. You have, I believe,
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  Speaker 3: eight rookies currently on this roster. We've seen Brett Callahan
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  Speaker 3: hit fifth, hit leadoff. You've pushed some guys like Andrew
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  Speaker 3: Sears aggressively to be part of this. You're kind of
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  Speaker 3: still doing some little things. They brought in a 35-year-old
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  Speaker 3: in Tyler Kinley. to try to help the right-handed side
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  Speaker 3: of this bullpen, but AJ Hinch said it. We have
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  Speaker 3: some guys who don't know where the shower is. They
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  Speaker 3: don't know which door gets them to the field. And
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  Speaker 3: quite honestly, that's not where you want to be at
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  Speaker 3: this point in the year. You want to have a
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  Speaker 3: good roster. You want to be geared up to compete.
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  Speaker 3: The absence of Riley Green continues to really hurt these guys.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think the vibe's bad because now it's young
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  Speaker 3: and fresh and new, and some of these guys are
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  Speaker 3: still learning. It's kind of fun to track their development,
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  Speaker 3: but it's far from the... serious playoff race you want
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  Speaker 3: to be a part of. Doesn't mean they're done. I
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  Speaker 3: think they have one life left. We'll see if they
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  Speaker 3: can make it interesting a little bit, but you are
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  Speaker 3: running out of time and your roster just really no
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  Speaker 3: longer resembles probably what you thought it was going to
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  Speaker 3: look like if you could go back in time to
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  Speaker 3: start spring training.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with you right there because it is getting late. But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, on a brighter side, I would say it
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  Speaker 4: is fun to kind of see what some of these
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  Speaker 4: rookies can do, you know, because they're still they're still
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  Speaker 4: trying to pass the test.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's not over for them, really.
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  Speaker 4: They're really starting to are really having to stay locked
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  Speaker 4: in and continue to show that they can play at
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  Speaker 4: a big league level. And I know AJ is looking
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  Speaker 4: at that and, you know, everybody's looking at that to
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  Speaker 4: see how they perform, even in these situations.
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  Speaker 2: So. I mean, it is cool. It's cool getting to
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  Speaker 2: see some of these.
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  Speaker 4: Rookies that came up through the organization and just to
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  Speaker 4: see them at a big league level. And you kind
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  Speaker 4: of mentioned it earlier, Cody, just about learning, learning how
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  Speaker 4: to play, learning how to.
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  Speaker 2: Be a big leaguer.
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  Speaker 4: So that's important even in these times. You would still
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  Speaker 4: like to see a team that's hovering around, you know,
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  Speaker 4: being close to, you know, teasing really of being, you know,
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  Speaker 4: able to make a playoff spot. But right now it's just,
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  Speaker 4: I try to look at that as the positive, as
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  Speaker 4: seeing what some of these younger guys can do right now.
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  Speaker 2: And, hey, if they get hot, you know, and make
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  Speaker 2: it interesting, that'll be good as well.
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  Speaker 1: Well, on that point, Ajax, one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I constantly look at is comfort level. Does it look
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  Speaker 1: like some of these guys are at least comfortable in
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  Speaker 1: a major league setting, in a major league batter's box?
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  Speaker 1: hell in the case of Max Clark in a major
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  Speaker 1: league slash specifically Comerica Park center field. And, and if
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  Speaker 1: we're going to, you know, I feel like we're all
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  Speaker 1: kind of in good moods right now. So let's keep
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  Speaker 1: the good vibes rolling. I feel like that's something that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we have seen with a lot of these guys,
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  Speaker 1: maybe all of these guys, I don't want to say all,
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  Speaker 1: all is a high number, right? Cody, all is a
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  Speaker 1: high number, but like, I feel like a vast majority
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  Speaker 1: of these guys, we've seen some level of comfort that
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  Speaker 1: makes you feel like kind of Rose-colored glassy about the future.
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  Speaker 1: And Max Clark, I'll even take it. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday night. We're going to talk about the home run.
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  Speaker 1: He had a misplay. And watching the clip of how
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  Speaker 1: he did the thing that a lot of athletes don't do.
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  Speaker 1: He took responsibility, and then he also explained what happened.
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  Speaker 1: And I think he actually landed the plane there. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Like, those are the kind of things I
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  Speaker 1: want to see, guys. Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, hey, Max Clark gets how to handle it.
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  Speaker 3: He said, yeah, it was a weird spin, bad hot,
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  Speaker 3: but that's still unacceptable. And that's great. I think that
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  Speaker 3: shocks it up. Was it kind of a weird play?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Does he hold himself to a high standard to make
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  Speaker 3: that play anyway?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I liked the way he handled that. I'm
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  Speaker 3: always a fan of guys taking accountability, but actually when
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  Speaker 3: I watch that play, I'm like, I don't know, we
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  Speaker 3: can take it from a center fielder here. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if you watched this play, Austin.
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  Speaker 2: Like, that's tough.
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  Speaker 3: That ball just had some weird.
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  Speaker 2: Spin on it.
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  Speaker 3: It hopped in front of him. It hopped to the side. So, like,
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't killing him for that play either.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's no reason to. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: a baseball play. Things like that are going to happen. But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, to see the maturation from spring training to
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  Speaker 4: now and just how he's able to handle this stuff,
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  Speaker 4: I think that's just a little bit, of him growing
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  Speaker 4: up and understand his responsibilities as a major league baseball player. Um,
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  Speaker 4: when you're going to have to be available to explain
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  Speaker 4: things like that, even though you probably shouldn't have to, um,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just, just, you know, we're going to get
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  Speaker 4: to see him grow up right in front of our eyes.
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  Speaker 4: And it's, um, it's just great to see him starting
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  Speaker 4: to do that already. Cause he understands the responsibility that
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  Speaker 4: he has and the Tigers that, you know, they, they
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  Speaker 4: have a lot of expectations for him. So, he's going
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  Speaker 4: to have to show that. He's going to have to
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  Speaker 4: show that on the field. He's going to have to
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  Speaker 4: show it in the clubhouse. You know, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: these guys are still having to prove themselves with the
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  Speaker 4: exception of probably McGonigal. But, I mean, even him, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he's still, you see what he's doing. He's probably the
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  Speaker 4: best player, the most valuable player on this team right now.
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  Speaker 4: He's still playing like he has a chip on his shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: And that's kind of what you need. You know, you
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  Speaker 4: got to, you know, play like, my spot isn't guaranteed.
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  Speaker 4: And you see what he's able to do with the bat,
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  Speaker 4: with the glove. I mean, he's just so valuable. So
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  Speaker 4: to see the rookies start to show that they can
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  Speaker 4: have value at this level, it's awesome. But like I said,
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  Speaker 4: with Clark, it's just good to see him take responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to have to do it a lot in
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  Speaker 2: his career. And so for him to be able to do.
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  Speaker 4: It right away, I think that's a good sign for
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  Speaker 4: where he's at now and where he's going to be
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  Speaker 4: in the future.
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  Speaker 3: A couple things. One, I've been to Alden, Pennsylvania and
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  Speaker 3: saw where Kevin McGonigal grew up. That kid's always going
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  Speaker 3: to play with a little bit of a chip on
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  Speaker 3: his shoulder, at least that tough-nosed mentality. That's just in
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  Speaker 3: his blood. With Max Clark, too, something I'm surprised not
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  Speaker 3: more people are talking about, he has an 867 OPS
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  Speaker 3: in his first 30 plate appearances against left-handed pitching. That's
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  Speaker 3: something we've kind of talked about throughout the summer. because
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  Speaker 3: there was a point in late June Max Clark and
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  Speaker 3: AAA had one extra base hit against lefties. That wasn't
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  Speaker 3: necessarily knocking his ability to hit left-handed pitching, but it
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  Speaker 3: was just like, okay, what if he gets up to
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  Speaker 3: the major leagues? Then he struggles a little bit. He's
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  Speaker 3: not elevating the ball against lefties. We know how often
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  Speaker 3: the Tigers pinch hit. How committed are you guys to
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  Speaker 3: this bit? Are you going to start pinch hitting for
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  Speaker 3: Max Clark? Well, when they called up Max Clark, they
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  Speaker 3: were pretty clear. This kid's going to play. He's going
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  Speaker 3: to play center field. He's going to play against left-handed pitching.
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  Speaker 3: So I think good on the Tigers for doing that,
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  Speaker 3: and good on Max Clark. He really turned on the
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  Speaker 3: throttle against lefties in July in AAA, and he's done
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  Speaker 3: it so far in his time in the major leagues.
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  Speaker 3: Hammered a center cut left-on-left sweeper Tuesday night. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think I knew this. He actually got hit in the
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  Speaker 3: face from a left-handed sinker before the 2025 season on
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  Speaker 3: the backfields. He said it had him just kind of
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  Speaker 3: psychologically in his brain. He was kind of bailing out
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  Speaker 3: against lefties a little bit. And he's kind of locked
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  Speaker 3: that back in. And if you do, you can go back,
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  Speaker 3: look how he did low A, high A. He really
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  Speaker 3: did crush lefties. So that's an important part of his
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  Speaker 3: game to keep an eye on. And he's handled it
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  Speaker 3: really well so far, facing some tough lefty relievers.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he made that decision, Cody. He made that
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  Speaker 4: decision we talked about. You got to be prepared to die.
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  Speaker 4: He's prepared.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, if this is the last pitch I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to see, so be it.
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  Speaker 1: That dog in you.
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  Speaker 4: Like you said psychological you get hit in the head
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  Speaker 4: man nobody you're not at fault nobody can fault you
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  Speaker 4: for being a little bit hesitant up there but again
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  Speaker 4: when you make that decision hey.
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  Speaker 2: You lock right back in you're like you know what you.
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  Speaker 4: Know because it doesn't happen a lot you know when
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  Speaker 4: guys come up there so um but yeah he's he's
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  Speaker 4: locked in against he looks good he doesn't look like
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  Speaker 4: he's um or pulling off or any, he's staying in there.
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  Speaker 4: He's able to hit the ball the other way that
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  Speaker 4: lets you know that he's staying in there on pitches
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  Speaker 4: and not bailing. Because if he was bailing, he'd be
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  Speaker 4: pulling off everything. And he just, I mean, he's on
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  Speaker 4: that plate too. You know, it's not like he's on it.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's on the plate.
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  Speaker 4: Like, Hey, you know, if you come in here, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to, you know, he can handle that ball in there.
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  Speaker 4: But if you throw it out over the plate, he
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  Speaker 4: does a good job with, you know, keeping his hands
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  Speaker 4: working through the middle of the field.
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  Speaker 2: And he's able to, you know, kind of slash the
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  Speaker 2: ball all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's and we're obviously going to be
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  Speaker 1: talking a lot of Max Clark, you know, rest of
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  Speaker 1: the season and presumably for for a long time. And
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  Speaker 1: like I would say. Early returns are good. And I'll
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  Speaker 1: reiterate something that I had said earlier, is that he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like he's doing anything out of character. If
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  Speaker 1: this is like a base level Max Clark, this is
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good base level to build off of. So
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  Speaker 1: among the encouraging things, I think that we would probably
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  Speaker 1: be at the top of the list. All right, we
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  Speaker 1: are going to take a quick break. And then afterward,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to go into the art of how do
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  Speaker 1: you get out of a slump? And then how do
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  Speaker 1: you maintain tweaking your swing while the season's going on?
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Coming back here. You know, one of the, we talked
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  Speaker 1: about a lot of the great, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: say great, but really promising returns that we've seen from
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  Speaker 1: the younger guys, the rookies, you know, if you even
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  Speaker 1: look at the, at the roster, a lot of guys
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  Speaker 1: with positive war that haven't been here that long, you know, and,
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  Speaker 1: and everyone can kind of think to moments for guys
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  Speaker 1: like Valencia and Lee and, obviously Clark McGonigal, you know,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. But part of the reason that the Tigers
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  Speaker 1: are in this spot right now is that they haven't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily gotten production of late from some of like the
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  Speaker 1: dudes that are supposed to be pillars of this order.
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  Speaker 1: So we've seen Dingler go through a really tough slump.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen Spencer Torkelson go through a really tough slump
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  Speaker 1: of late. So I'm curious, Austin, A, what is that
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  Speaker 1: like when it just doesn't feel like you can do
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  Speaker 1: anything right at the plate? And then B, did you
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  Speaker 1: have a method to get out of a slump? Or
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  Speaker 1: what was your process at those times?
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  Speaker 2: Man, I am so glad I don't have to deal
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  Speaker 2: with that no more.
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  Speaker 4: We talk about psychologically what things can do to you.
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  Speaker 4: The game of baseball, it can really make you doubt
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  Speaker 4: some things and take you to a dark place overnight
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  Speaker 4: hitting a baseball or.
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  Speaker 2: Going in a slump.
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  Speaker 4: So the thing that I've noticed, which is crazy, is
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  Speaker 4: that when I watch some of the games, I can
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  Speaker 4: see guys tinkering up there. I can see hands starting
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  Speaker 4: in different places, starting with him on your shoulder this
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  Speaker 4: time and just kind of, when the pitcher goes, picking
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  Speaker 4: them up, hands a little higher, hands dropping, you know,
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  Speaker 4: open stance, closed stance, you know, just not moving a
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  Speaker 4: statue up there and then trying to get some momentum
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  Speaker 4: or some rhythm. It's just, it's funny, man. It's funny
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  Speaker 4: because I can laugh at it now. It's not a
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  Speaker 4: laughing matter, to be honest. But, you know, it's a
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  Speaker 4: bad feeling. It's a bad feeling when something that's been
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  Speaker 4: working for you, Um, it's just, you, you lose the
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  Speaker 4: feel of it. Um, for just whatever reason, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the times it's your, your body's tired. Your body
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  Speaker 4: can't get to the same position, the same launch positions
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  Speaker 4: that it could earlier in the season. You know, you're, you're, you're,
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  Speaker 4: you've got more wear and tear on you. So physically sometimes,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we don't really think about that. We think, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: well I'm doing the same stuff, but it's like, dude,
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  Speaker 4: you're not firing like you were. So you might have
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  Speaker 4: to change some things to get to that position earlier. Um, but,
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  Speaker 4: For me, when I would get into those slumps like that, well,
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  Speaker 4: I would say I wish I would have known now.
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  Speaker 4: But what I wish I would have known back then
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  Speaker 4: is that I needed to redefine kind of what success was.
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  Speaker 4: I would always think of success as, well, it's just hits.
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  Speaker 4: But when you're in a slump. you can't force a
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  Speaker 4: hit when you're going good. You can, you can close
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  Speaker 4: your eyes up there and swing. And it seems like
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  Speaker 4: you're just on it, right? Like you just, it's just,
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  Speaker 4: for whatever reason, your timing, everything is just in the flow.
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  Speaker 4: You're just barreling balls all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So then, but when you're not, you know, that you, you,
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  Speaker 2: you think, oh man, I got to get hits. I
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  Speaker 2: see you laughing. I see you laughing.
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  Speaker 4: But when you, when, you are not going good and
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  Speaker 4: you're not getting the hits. You almost have to redefine
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: what the success is, especially at that level. And it's about,
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: you have to really, um, um, look at your at
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: bats and, and how they are. If you're, um, swinging
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: at good pitches, if you're hitting balls in the barrel, that's,
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: that's gotta be success because you're giving yourself the best
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: opportunity to get the hits that you're, you know, that
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: you're looking for to produce, um, is that. So, when
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: I would get in a slump, you know, it was like, man,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: I got to get a hit. I got to get
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: a hit. How do you get a hit? You know,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: it's not like it's for sale. Like, hey, let me
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: get two hits today. Let me get two for 50.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: Let me get two of them. Are the ribbies on sale?
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Let me get a couple of them too. For sure.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: It don't work like that. And it always seems like
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: you coming up in the moments too. You know, like, dude,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: you walk everybody else, but when you get in there
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: with you, it's like, you owe two already. You know,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: when you are going through a slump, it's like nothing
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: is going right. So I keep mentioning just to redefine
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: what success is because I think that would have just
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: helped me get through the slumps a little bit better.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: You know, the pitch selection. Am I on time to
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: see the fastball? Am I late on the fastball? Okay,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: let's figure out why I'm late on the fastball. Am
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: I hitting balls in the barrel or am I getting jammed?
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Am I hitting balls off the end of the bat? Okay,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: if I'm hitting balls in the barrel, I got to
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: be okay with that. And I think that's where we
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: kind of lose track of that sometimes is we go
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: up there when we're in a slump and we're pressing,
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: we're trying to get a hit, and it's just that's
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: not realistic. So that is something that I wish I
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: would have known then that I know now. That's what
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: I would tell my younger self is, hey, redefine what
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: success is. Did you hit that ball in the barrel? Yeah,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: it wasn't a hit, but, hey, you ain't getting hits
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: no way. You ain't hitting no way. So, hey, at
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: least you're on the barrel now. You're not swinging through it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: You're not missing that fastball. You're catching that fastball where
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: you want to. It's on the barrel. Hey, it's out
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: of your control once you do that. So, yeah, that's
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: how I kind of think about a slump is, guys,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: we press a little bit too much and we kind of–
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: we make it all result-oriented. Like, we don't care if
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: we go up there and get jammed and.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Get a hit.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, but that's not realistic either. Like, you don't–
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: that's not going to get you hits. It's getting jammed
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: or hitting it off the end of your bat. That's
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: not going to work.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, Cody, I don't know if you
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: agree with me on this, but it does kind of
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: feel like we've gotten more so-and-so has made this adjustment
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: of late, and that's maybe why they've been able to
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: have some success or whatever. I mean, off the top
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: of my head, we have the Colt Keith, putting the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: rod in his back leg so that he doesn't lean back.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Spencer Torkelson more with the go-to-right-field approach, cut off the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: plate in thirds. And even Zach McKinstry earlier in the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: year talked about an adjustment of his back plane to
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: produce more line drives. That's one of those things that
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: when I look back on this season, I'm going to
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: think it just kind of felt like there wasn't as
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: much comfort. Maybe that's a word. It wasn't as much
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: comfort at the plate among guys that you have been
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: able to rely on the past couple years. It just didn't,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, work out, and that might help explain
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: what we've seen this year. I don't know if that
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: makes sense.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, I had had the thought
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: this week talking about how young the team is now.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Maybe this is just a sign we're in development mode
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: because you talk to Max Cork about hidden lefties and
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Drew Summers is talking about His mindset has really eased up.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: He's no longer worried about like, okay, where am I
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: going to plant my foot? He's just going out there
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: and pitching. And you have Troy Melton pitched exclusively out
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: of the stretch. on wednesday we can forget how young
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: he is but he was struggling kind of getting into
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: that that leg that plant leg and so he ditched
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: the wind up he thought it puts his hip in
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: a better position he says he doesn't really want to
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: do that the rest of his career but like it
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: was a temporary solution But the guys you just mentioned, Kieran,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: guys who have been around, guys who have been there,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: done it. I think Colt Keith, by nature, is a
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: little bit of a tinkerer. He's kind of always tinkering
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: with something. But Spencer Torkelson has not been, right? How
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: many times over the years have you been like, all right,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: when is he going to change something? And what's he say? Like,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: my swing is my swing. I'm going to stay on
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: my fastball and trust my swing. It's been frustrating to
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: hear at times. But, you know, he had an approach
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: change that worked until it didn't. McKinstry, you know, I
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: think he's been fighting his body. He's had to change
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: some things. So your idea is on point too. Like
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: some of these guys probably just haven't been comfortable for
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: one reason or another and have kind of had, I mean,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: every player, right? Austin probably makes subtle adjustments throughout a season,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: but it does feel like there's been a little more
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: of that. And I feel like because they're kind of
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: in this development mode now, which again, I don't think
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: is really a good thing. I mean, there may be
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: some positives that come out of it, but it's not
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: ideal for this team right now, but because they're in
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: this mindset, I think guys are talking about it. It's
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: becoming a little more, becoming a little bit more of
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: the story like okay who's going to take a stride
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: between now the and the end of the season and
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: what does that mean for how they put together next
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: year's roster.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: How are these guys like you know tork and dingler
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: how have they been during their um you know just
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: like vibes like you know seeing them around the the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: clubhouse and all that stuff how have they kind of
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: been during these like tough stretches because again now they're
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: because especially now now torkelson obviously is a little bit
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: older in terms of major league service time. But, you know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: we talked about all the rookies. It's like, you guys
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: are kind of the old cats now. You know what
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which is weird. I think I asked Twerk about
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: that a while ago, and he said, yeah, you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: that's been really weird for him. I haven't seen much,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: or at least this last series, I didn't see much
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: of Dingler, you know, when the media was in there.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: That's how you know he's a busy man. He's probably
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: getting a lot of treatment. He's probably been hard at
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: work on his swing, so he wasn't, He wasn't around
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: just chit-chatting very much, and that's kind of always his nature,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: but I think maybe even heightened now, I'm sure he's
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: really trying to get out of this slump he's been in.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: He's done some extra early work, BP on the field
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Probably searching for anything, and I
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: think the swings looked a little bit better the past
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: couple days, but we're still just kind of waiting on
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: that switch to flip back.
• 22:30
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• 23:46
  Speaker 1: All right, coming back here. You know, Friday's going to
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: be a day that Tigers fans have loathed the possibility and,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you know, leading up to the trade deadline. And then
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: as soon as the trade happened, you look at the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: schedule and you're like, of course. It always seems like
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: it happens, right? You know, you guys don't get traded
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and don't face their former teams. Like, that just never happens.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: So we'll obviously be reacting to that this weekend and–
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: And that will be fun and interesting to watch. But,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: you know, Ajax, like, I guess let's start with the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: school aspect to this first. Like, what is going to
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: be going through his head as he goes through what
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: in some ways will be a familiar routine, but like
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the mirror image, you know, the visitors clubhouse and the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: visitors bullpen and wearing a different color jersey and then,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you know, and then facing teammates, you know, all that stuff.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: What's that going to be like for him?
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy because you think that a place
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: where you've predominantly been playing would.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Seem very familiar.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: But I remember the first time that I was over
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: in the visiting clubhouse, and when I went out on
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: the field, I don't know if it's just because I
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: came out from that angle.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: It all felt weird. You know, it didn't.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Feel like I had been– I didn't feel, like, comfortable
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: like I did when I actually played in Comerica.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: It was like– I think it's the angle. The angle
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: did something to me.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I was like, wow, this just don't– it feels weird.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I don't know about him.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: I think pitchers– pitchers are always– they have their, you know,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: their routines, and they're so routine-oriented that they just– I
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: think they just kind of fall into– You know, that
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: mindset and maybe it doesn't bother him.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe he kind of has that same feeling that I.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Had of just like feels weird to be on this
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: side and to see the field from this angle because
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: you never do. But I think that I mean, obviously,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: once the game starts, you get you get locked in,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: but even running in.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Like, there was a time where I took a couple
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: steps when I was in center field, and I was like, oh,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: go ahead and go back to the left.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: You're not running over there.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: You know, it's just when you've been there and you've
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: played there, you know, for that long, and then you're
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: on the other side, it feels a little weird. But,
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: you know, obviously once the game starts, you go into
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: compete mode like you always do. But it's a different feel, man.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: It's a whole different vibe just arriving to the ballpark, Um, going,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: going to the visitors clubhouse, it's, it's, it's a little different,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: but you get used to it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Um, the more times you, you know, you.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Go back, you start to say, all right, well, I
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: realized that, you know, this isn't, this isn't home anymore,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: but I'm, I'm familiar with this place.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I've seen, I've gone and talked to plenty
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: of guys in the, that visiting clubhouse over the years
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: in there for the first time. They're kind of like, no,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: this is weird. Are you ever driven by a house
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: you grew up in or a house you used to
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: live in and you're like, they painted the garage door, man.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I like that. It doesn't feel right.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: A bunch of memories come back, but it's kind of like,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know. They chopped down the tree. Come on.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I think there's some of that. I'm really interested in
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: what the fan reception is going to be like. Obviously,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Scooble No one likes when an athlete leaves their team. Obviously,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: things were a little tense there at the end amongst
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: some of the fan base. I think you guys should
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: cheer this guy. He won two Cy Youngs. He carried
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: you pretty much on his back to two playoff appearances.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Let's not forget the Tigers were 42-20, and Tarek Skubal
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: starts in 2024 and 2025. I imagine it's going to
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: be mostly cheers. You'll hear a few people booing to
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: try to be cute, but I hope it's a positive reception.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Trying to be cute is is the perfect way because
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: there's no way this dude shouldn't receive the the warmest
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: best reception ever like he he went out and this
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: dude he pitched his butt off um he can't control
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: the the business i mean i guess you can a
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: little bit but but.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: That's that's people's argument but all they offered him was
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: 475 so like i there's got to be an offer
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: too and they probably didn't offer because they knew he
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: wouldn't sign anything but that's like You know, this is
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: how it goes.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Exactly. It's business.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: And, I mean, the dude, he represented the D, you know,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: the right way. He always, you know, he's respectful with
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: the media and everything. So I just think this guy, man,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: he's a class act, man. And he's just, I don't
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: think that he shouldn't receive anything less than, you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: the whole stadium should be up.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Appreciating what this dude did for that city.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: He did take his espresso machine with him. That was
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: kind of the chatter in the clubhouse on Wednesday. He
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: had bought this real nice espresso machine. It was kind
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: of him and Casey Mize's joint, so maybe them both
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: getting traded was part. But, you know, he got traded
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: when they were on the road, right? So he didn't
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: get to pack up his own stuff. Someone must have said,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I want that espresso machine. I think that hurt a
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: few feelings. He could have bought another one.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Come on. I'll tell you where I got it, but
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: this is coming.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Well, what, what, what about, um, what about like, who
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: has the advantage when it's like, you're facing one of
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: your teammates on the mountain and real games, obviously like
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: spring training, live BP, all that stuff. Like, it's not
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: like you've never been the box against against terry scoobel
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: if you've been on the tigers but but like who
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: who is there a advantage to be had on either
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: side or is it like or even what is that
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: like when you know you step on you know step
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: in the box against max scherzer and all of a
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: sudden psycho max is like got everything zeroed in on
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you and you're not saving his butt like you used
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: to you know.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: That is the funniest thing. Cause pictures, like they don't
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: give you, they don't give you nothing. I'm like, ah, man.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: So we, this is what we doing. We serious. All right.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: You ain't going to give me nothing. And, and you're right.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Like he got on there and he was like, you know,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: he was max.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: It was like, ah, okay. You're going to hit me
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: with the eyes right now, bro.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Like when we used to joke, you know what I mean?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to give him something like, ah, he
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: does nothing. It's just, he's making it weird. You're making
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: this weird.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: But I feel like they have the advantage.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like they do.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Obviously, as a center fielder, I got to see everything
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: from that vantage point. I got to see what all
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: pitches they threw, locations, movement, spin, what they threw with two.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Strikes, all of that.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: But just like you're watching that, they're watching you every day.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: They're watching the swings that you take. They're watching... they
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: watch a lot more than you probably realize. So I
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: feel like they have the advantage because obviously, you know, they, they, they're,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: they have a scouting report. There's like, Oh, I know what,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I know what he can't hit. They, every time we
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: watch him, you know, this is what he can't hit.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: And I mean, vice versa, you can say, Hey, I,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I know the pitches that I can hit off you,
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: but if they, if they're pinpointing, you know, your weaknesses
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: and really hitting, I feel like they have the advantage
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: a little, just a little bit.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: They got the slight edge.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting. And yeah, the reception, I'll be curious
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: to see what it is. I'm not too worried about
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: it in terms of what the fan base reaction will be.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I think it will be exactly what we expect. But
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: it is one of those things that kind of hits
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you in the face about, like you said, the business,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the reality of baseball, and then You know, like I
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  Speaker 1: will say there is that clip of Verlander and Miggy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, giving each other like a head nod and
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  Speaker 1: a hat tip or whatever. So that, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: something like that will happen. Maybe not. We shall see.
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  Speaker 3: I think there will be a lot of joking around
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  Speaker 3: early before the game, maybe first inning. But it will
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  Speaker 3: be interesting what it's like being on the other side
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  Speaker 3: of Tarek Skubal's competitive fire because I don't think there's
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  Speaker 3: going to be much joking around after that first pitch
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  Speaker 3: is thrown.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 4: That's why it would be cool to see because, like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think– I think, like you said, he probably
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  Speaker 4: gives a little, hey, cool, get in the box.
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  Speaker 2: Like, let's go.
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  Speaker 4: And two, you know, I think there's going to be
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: a little bit of, you know, it's a little personal
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: a little bit.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: It's going to be personal on both sides. And some
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: of those guys probably know how to get under his
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  Speaker 3: skin a little bit. You know, are they going to
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: pull out those cards? Might be interesting.
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be personal. I think he got a
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: little bit built up. I think it's going to be
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: a little extra release on a couple of them fastballs.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: You might see a couple of 101s, 102s in there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He's got to go like 109 pitches now, so I
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: don't know if we'll see that or not.
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  Speaker 1: They're working him over there.
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  Speaker 3: They're working him.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, can't wait to watch that.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Anything else, fellas, before we jet out of here?
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I think you got it. I think we got it, man.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: It's been cool.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Like I said, I just will touch on the rookies
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: again and how cool it's been to see these guys
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: develop and to see what the future of the Detroit
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Tigers hold. We're kind of seeing a little bit of
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: that now, but they got some more guys in that
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: pipeline that are going to be interesting to see as
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: well moving forward, but you know, no matter what happens
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: from this point on, you know, if you're a Tigers fan,
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: obviously you want to see this team put themselves in
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: a position to make a playoff run. But if not,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I think you can kind of, you know, start to
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: see the future a little bit with some of these guys.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: And I think that's always a plus and something to
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: be hopeful for when, when you're kind of seeing your
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: future right now and getting green back and, You know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: knowing what he's capable of when he's going well.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, he changes the whole dynamic of a team.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: So there's just been some unlucky breaks, you know, some
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: teams playing really well right now. And you you start
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: playing bad at a certain time of the season. And,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: you know, it's the other teams are capitalized on that.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: So I think that they're going to be good, whether
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: it's this year or in the next few years. I
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: think it's it's going to be fun to watch this
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Detroit team.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's one actually good thing to keep
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: in mind, Austin. There are a lot of big-picture questions
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: floating around right now, and rightfully so. Things can feel
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: pretty dire. The Tigers are pretty well-suited to be competitive
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: for the next several years to come. They're in pretty
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: good shape with starting pitching. You have Kevin McGonigal, you
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: have Max Clark, you have Dylan Dingler, Riley Green. There
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: are pieces there. Obviously, you have to supplement those pieces,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: and Scott Harris, quite frankly, has to do a better
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: job of finishing off the Major League roster We'll have
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: all next month, all offseason, to talk about that, try
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: to find answers to some of those questions. But I
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: don't think we're going to enter another dark ages of
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Tigers baseball because they at least have some stuff to
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: work with, which is part of the reason this season
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: is frustrating. They had plenty to work with, and they
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: didn't accomplish anything.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Injuries, man. Injuries. But that's part of the game. It's
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: part of the game.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: It's part of the game. And to kind of put
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a bow on it, these are still valuable games. So
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: if you just want to be one of those people
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: that doesn't worry about the standings, these are still valuable games.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: These are valuable at-bats. These are valuable outings on the
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: mound for this year because, again, they're not out of
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: it and in the future.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: We've seen some crazy stuff before.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and given the ride we've been on this season–
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure they're just going to quietly kind of
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: fade away. That would seem way too easy, right, given
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: the emotional rollercoaster we've been on. They might have one
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: hot streak left in them.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Yep, and we will be there every step of the way.
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• 36:30
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