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S2 E8: Reviewing "Skeleton Crew" Episodes 5 & 6 (SPOILERS) · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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It's most things Kenobi. An elegant podcast.
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For a more civilized fandom. Hi everyone, welcome to another
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episode of Most Things Kenobi, a podcast about Obi Wan Kenobi and
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all things Star Wars. I'm your host, Leanne.
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And I'm your host, Lauren. And this week, we're diving back
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into the skeleton crew. This would be the last two
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episodes that have aired, Episodes 5 and 6, I believe.
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Yeah. Yeah, so turn back now.
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If you haven't watched, don't listen.
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Come back later after you watch 'cause we, as usual, spoiler
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alert, we're gonna talk about the show.
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So there you. Go yes indeed.
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I actually really like these episodes.
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I did too. I thought they were so much fun.
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I really, especially 5 felt like Indiana Jones.
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It was very Indiana Jones, and not in a way that was like so
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obvious, but it had flavor of Indiana Jones and I was 100%
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here for it. I loved every second of it.
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Yeah, it was like solving puzzles, going deeper into this
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maze that was booby trapped. You know, it was just like,
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yeah, all, all the classic Indiana Joe's moments like this,
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especially the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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Yeah, yeah, you know, and it was also like find the IT was the
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when they were down in the in the treasure, like the buried
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treasure area and they were looking for the thing that
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looked natural. So I was getting the the goblet,
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the the thing that Jesus allegedly drank from.
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Oh. Yes, yes, yes.
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From Last Crusade. Yeah, yeah, I had the same
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thought. Exact same thought.
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Yeah, that's and that's my favorite Indiana Jones movie, so
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me too. Yeah.
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So it had flavors of that. I also liked episode 6 because
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it delved into the depth of these little kids.
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Who? I really love KBI, think she
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might be my favorite character. Yeah, she is.
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She was so good. She was.
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That whole sequence with her and Ren, I thought it was Ren is his
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name Wim? Wim.
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Thank you. I was like, that felt wrong.
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Yeah. I thought that was a really
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beautiful sequence. I really enjoyed that.
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I was very. We don't see moments like that
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in Star Wars very often. It's very human in a way even
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though they were fixing her like robotic augmentation but.
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I was not expecting that. I thought she just wore that
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because it helped her do like problem solving.
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I didn't realize that she has parts.
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Yeah, that she said she was in an accident.
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They don't explain that. They don't say what happened or
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what, you know, what her issues are that she's living with.
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But yeah, like you, I thought it was just like glasses she was
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wearing. I didn't realize it was like
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hardwired into her so much and and they never ever really
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addressed except 3PO bitching about needing an oil bath.
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Yeah, right. They never addressed corrosion
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in Star Wars, so I thought that was really cool actually.
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I know it. It's kind of the little things.
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There's got to be a lot more corrosion going on especially.
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I mean, I don't, I don't know. I just think it, I thought the
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whole thing was kind of brilliant.
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I I. I liked it.
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'Cause there was a lot less screaming in these episodes from
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the children, there's a lot less child screaming, like let's run
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this way, like shit like that. I thought for sure that they
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were going to call like KB was going to call that Elf, not Elf.
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I'm sorry, owl the owl. Not elf.
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Not elf, an owl. Another three letter word.
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That's it. I thought for sure she was gonna
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call the owl. Yeah, well, and every time I see
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an X wing, I really just hope it's gonna be Luke Skywalker.
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I know he's. Got other shit to do besides
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coming to a resort? Everybody, all the time.
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Yes. Isn't he off somewhere saving
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the Mandalorian? Yeah, seriously.
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Building a school? Hanging out with Baby Yoda.
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I know. What did you think of the
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resort? Did it seem familiar to you at
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all? Laughed out loud.
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I saw some people talking about it before I watched the episode
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and then when you texted me they basically just ripped off your
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fan fiction. It totally did.
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It was even on like a winter planet like yours.
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And they had rooms for experiences and different
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themes. And I'm just like, OK, a cheap
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idea is a cheap idea, but come on.
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Like, I did have this idea for Star Wars folks.
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Many of you don't know this. She did a.
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While ago. Like years ago.
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Years and years and years ago, but hey, whatever.
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And in Leanne's story, Obi Wan goes to this pleasure resort,
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and it's delightful, and I think he deserves that.
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Now that it's in Canon, I think he should go.
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I'm saying he's the only one that deserves a break there.
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He can nap, which is the thing we've been promoting since day
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one for Obi Wan, is a nap. True.
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A nap. So Speaking of Obi Wan, you know
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what? There's a lot of like crazy
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theories going around of who JOD is.
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Oh yeah. My deep cut theory is JOD is Obi
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Wan's younger brother. I had this thought because.
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Did you? Because we got the Qui Gon
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quote. I know, right?
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What? The fuck was with that?
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How would he know? That how would he know that
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unless told by an older brother who's heard it from Qui Gon
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right? And how would Obi Wan have met
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his older brother or younger brother?
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I don't know if that's even possible.
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I suppose it is post Kenobi series because he's mentioned in
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the Kenobi series like that's the first time ever.
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True. We hear Obi Wan say he has a
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younger brother. Possibly right?
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They have the same accent. They got the same blue eyes.
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Plus, Ewan McGregor and Jude Law are old friends.
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They used to be roommates back when they first started out.
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Like, yeah, come on. I mean, it's right there on a
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silver platter, right? Obi Wan's been to the resort via
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my story. His younger brother, possibly
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allegedly, has been to the resort in this story.
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It would explain why he might be slightly force sensitive while
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he maybe his parents didn't want to send a second child to the
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Jedi, but maybe because he knew his older brother had been sent,
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he learns about the Jedi. There's all sorts of ways
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through osmosis that he could have picked up these lines.
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I know some of our patrons had said they thought he was maybe
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like an initiate or something at the Jedi Temple, but didn't pass
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the whatever got kicked out, or maybe the the Empire came along
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before he got a chance to take the trials or whatever.
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Because he's regurgitating, yeah, Jedi terminology, but he's
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totally, definitely not got the morals of a Jedi.
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Nope, no, he definitely has gone on his own path.
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First of all, I was so thrilled to see that Scottish actress who
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had the white face paint and the braid.
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Yeah, she's awesome. She's, she's from, well, she's
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from a lot of things. She's won an Emmy.
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I know that. But she was in Boardwalk Empire,
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which I loved that show back when it was on.
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And oh. I didn't know she was in.
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There she was a main character and I loved her then and I, I
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was so God, I'm terrible with names.
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She was in Trainspotting. Yeah, she was in Trainspotting.
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Another human connection. Kelly MacDonald, Kelly.
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MacDonald Thank you. Yeah, she is fabulous.
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I loved her character's whole look from top to bottom.
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And the way she smiled with so many teeth.
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Yeah, I don't know if the actress does that naturally.
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I mean, she she has beautiful. Yeah, she's got a beautiful
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smile. But the way she was like using
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her teeth and this I thought was so great.
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It was like a. Predator totally, totally.
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And I don't know what that species is or whatever, but I
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bet you there's something to it. But I, I loved every, every
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moment. She kind of gave me Ventress
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vibes a bit. They run in the same circle.
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I guaranteed they got the same hair stylist, they got the same
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makeup artist, they got the same.
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I guarantee they know each other.
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Damn she was great. I I really enjoyed the levels
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she brought to that character. It was not one-dimensional.
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It was very interesting. She had like you liked her, but
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you also don't trust her and you can tell there's like a history
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there. She brought a lot to it with a
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very few scenes that she was in. I thought she was awesome.
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She wasn't on screen for very long, and she.
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I need more of her. Yeah.
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You know who else I really liked in this?
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This set of episodes was when they went down into the mud
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area, I guess. And then they went further down
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and they met that giant thing. Yeah, with a little mustache,
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yeah. With a little mustache.
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Huge mustache. Yeah, but he's like, he was mean
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at 1st and you didn't know, and then he turned into like just a
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conversationalist who likes stories.
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I loved that creature. I did too.
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I love how they befriended him. He just wanted to hear a story.
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He was there like anyone else trying to get away from the real
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world. I loved him.
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I that's. Kind of what I love about this
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show is when I expect something to happen, it kind of doesn't go
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the way, yeah, it normally would in a kids show.
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In the moments where I expected them to start screaming and
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being afraid, they turn it into a moment that's sometimes
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gentle. And I actually really like that.
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I like Jude Laws moments of comedy that I do kind of,
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they're cliche, but I kind of love them.
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When he's like, I'll handle this and then he's like, run just
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turns around and runs. It's it's great actually.
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It's very tongue in cheek and the way he does it I think is
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why it works really well. Yeah, there's a way that that
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you can do it to make it seem less what this is, but it's it's
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genuine. Yeah.
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It's genuine ridiculous and he knows that everyone knows it and
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it's OK because there's that space to allow it to just be.
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Right, silly, because I guess when you see it written on the
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page, it's like that could really not hit right if it's not
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done well. And it's like it's acted well,
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it's edited well. And so it is funny even though
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we've seen it a million times all over the world, you know, in
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every movie, you know, everywhere.
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So yeah, I I think the show is really accomplishing the tone
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that it wanted to. I don't feel like with other
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Star Wars stuff that's come out, it's all over the place and it
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doesn't know what it wants to be like.
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This seems very focused. Yes, telling the story it means
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to tell with the tone and the aesthetic, it's very consistent.
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Even though they have different directors, the whole show feels
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consistent. I think it's doing a really good
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job and I'm I'm really enjoying it.
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After the episode 5, I was just like, this is delightful.
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Like I was drinking tea with my dog watching and I was like, I'm
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having such a good time and I can't wait to start episode 6.
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Let's go. You know, like.
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I've been pleasantly surprised myself after.
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I'm just like, right, Yeah. I mean after having it be really
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irritating. Also, hold on though, hold on.
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Are we disappointed that at what?
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What is it at? At Aten.
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At Aten is not more than just the money factory is is that
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what I. Think it is.
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It is more than that. I I really do.
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And I'm not even sure they're gonna find what they're looking
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for there or that the the pirate captain is even actually dead.
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Like, I think there's gonna be a lot more to it when they
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actually get to the reveal of what it really is supposed to
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be, if they even do in this season.
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They only have two episodes left.
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I know. So I don't think we're going to
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wrap up everything in two seasons or two episodes, but
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yeah. It was, it was just like, I'm
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like, oh, please don't let this be like, it's got to be more
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than that, right? Like.
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But that's like the classic pirate booty, the the treasure
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that never runs out. It's like, you know, the the
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Holy Grail. Truly.
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But I want what me and you concocted the last time we
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talked about how it's all being protected by some getaway group
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that knows something that you know, those the parents.
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The parents are in on it, almost on what I don't.
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I don't think it's not that necessarily.
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Still, I think there is something going on with those
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parents. Yeah.
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I mean, they're and the the administrator that they're.
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Oh, my God. I'm literally putting it
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together now. The administrator is going to
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turn out to be the pirate captain, the one that they can
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never get a meeting with. It's got to turn out to be the
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the captain. It's the.
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I mean, I guess I'll. Put money on it now.
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Will you put all that for public credits on it?
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Yeah, that's my, my guess is where we're going to find out
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who he went to because he made it there.
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The ship got there, although they said that his concubine
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stabbed him and there was a corpse, you know, a skeleton.
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With a blade. 2nd That's another story time.
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Yeah, that's that's for another day.
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I think it's great to have a concubine in Star Wars.
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Yeah. I mean, we've seen the Sigerian
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arc. We know that those exist.
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Yeah, wonder who that will be when we see who it is.
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Who the administrator will be? Yeah.
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If it's yeah, I'm curious. The the the fabled pirate that
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we're all coming to to know here.
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Well, this is saying Old Republic credits, right?
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I'm. Hearing that right, yes, that's
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what I heard, yeah. That's like way before the
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prequels even. That's like from what's that
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other show? Acolyte, right?
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That was Old Republic. Or is that the High Republic?
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Oh. My God I literally can't keep
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this shit straight anymore. Wasn't the lightsaber that Wim
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found? Wasn't that a Jedi temples
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lightsaber? Or am I just?
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Oh. Yeah, that's right.
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You're right. They only had gold.
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OK. I did love when he turned it on
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and it was upside down. I said I laughed out loud.
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I was not expecting to laugh out loud.
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And I was like, that is exactly what would happen to a kid who
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doesn't know how to hold it. You know that's.
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Funny, his poor little face too. He was just like, so
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embarrassed. It's going to.
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Be the moment he always dreamt of and it was upside down.
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It's just like any kid who would hold something and not know, you
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know, make sure the right ends up.
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I know I was like, this is either gonna be the big hero
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Star Wars moment or this is gonna not go well for this.
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And it it was actually very cute how they how they did.
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That yeah. And I thought that was great.
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It was really funny yeah. And there was, I kept hearing
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like very peripheral references to, to Peter Pan again.
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And I just I love when they call people a bilge rat.
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OK. I'm a huge fan of the original
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Disney Peter Pan movie with, you know, I, I don't even know when
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it's from. Is it the 40s?
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Oh, it's old. Maybe the 60s.
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It's old. It's old and you know it's
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racist. I'm saying that up front.
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We know that it's it's terrible. There was a.
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Lot about Disney in that era. That has been beyond, you know,
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as in our childhood and now they're sort of putting
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disclaimers at the beginning on Disney Plus saying we are aware
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we don't want to change the original product, but we're
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aware that there's some insensitive references.
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You don't. I just love Captain Hook in in
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that version. I love, I pretty much always
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love Captain Hook, but he's so funny in that version and
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they're always calling people bilge rats in that.
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And I I. Didn't know that.
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It has like a special place in my heart.
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So when I heard it in the show, she was like, Oh my God, thank
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you. I didn't put that together at
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all because I haven't seen that damn movie since I was like 4
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or. Maybe it's just a big all
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pirates say or it's from maybe Peter Pan is actually
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referencing Treasure Island or but to me, that's where I was
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first exposed to it. But yeah, I I should have read
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Treasure Island. I just I get exhausted.
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By Yeah. Stevenson It's tiring to read
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it, but yeah. Did you expect him to turn Bad
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Jude Law's character? Well, it wasn't a good sign when
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Wim wanted to clearly talk about his mother and losing things and
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being sad about adventures, and he gave the fine and then he sat
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down and talked to him. I wondered about that scene.
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Yeah, I, I and then that's when we got the attachments are bad.
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And then the your focus determines your, your reality,
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all this Jedi business. And I was just like, that was
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such a good moment for him to be good and he wasn't.
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And I said he's probably gonna, he's probably gonna turn at some
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point. Yeah, that scene was so odd,
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too, because Wim leaves clearly upset, and he follows him on
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purpose. Jude Law's character follows
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Wim, and then he hears him crying, knows he's crying, goes
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in and let's Wim see him see it, and then acts like, oh, oh,
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you're crying. So it's like, was he just trying
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to get Wim to toughen up using tough love, or was he really,
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like, turned off by it? I am.
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I wasn't sure what was going on there because he kept giving off
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two different energies at the same time.
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And I think he has two different energies.
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I think it's going to come down to when it, when the rubber
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hits, rubber meets the road, rubber hits the road, he's going
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to choose the kids over whatever else.
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Like the kids are going to get in big trouble and he's going to
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have a come to Jesus moment. He's going to follow his heart.
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You know, it's about connection after all.
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It's about attachment after all, you know, and that's where I
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think it's going. He may not, but none of this
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solidifies that. So I don't know.
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So much of Star Wars is about a redemption story.
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So very true. I wouldn't.
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I wouldn't be disappointed if he turned good and was actually a
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kind person, but he is a fucking pirate so.
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Well, he has all these names, he has all these personas.
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OK, it's great. All these people know him for
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something different, which is great if you're making your way
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through the the Galaxy and you just want to slip away.
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And if your last name is really Kenobi, you definitely want to
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hide that. 100%, just 100 percent, 100% you don't want
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wrapped up in all that. That's a lot.
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Yeah, you don't want Darth Vader breathing down your neck because
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you're related. No, but even Obi Wan didn't
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change his own last name. He changed his first name, so
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who knows? He just hit his bench.
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Kenobi. Super top secret.
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That's true. He did give a like his character
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give a very persuasive speech there about he really appealed
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the last appeal or whatever it was.
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Yeah, I love. That there's all these pirate
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codes of honor amongst a bunch of people who don't have honor.
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It was a real thing. Like, I don't know if that was
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exactly the code, but Pirates really did have a code that they
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lived by that was not just a Pirates of the Caribbean thing.
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Right. True, but what what you know if
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you want to juxtapose that with the Jedi code.
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Yeah, actually that's great point.
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The Jedi went against their own code more than the pirates went
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against their code, and they're supposed to be the bad guys and
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the Jedi are the good guys, so. You're so right, the pirates are
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sticking to it no matter what. They don't like each other.
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They're ready to kill each other.
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They're ready to send them out air locks or air vents and and
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they are going to uphold the code but.
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The code is all they've got. But if we're fucking people
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behind closed doors at the temple, don't tell.
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Don't, don't tell anyone. Yeah, right, Right.
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We're getting married. We're doing all kinds of things
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secret. Wives.
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It's all OK if you just don't say anything.
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I wonder if he does turn out to be Kenobi's younger brother if
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that's why Kenobi doesn't talk about him or because he he
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actually wants his younger brother's life.
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He's. Jealous.
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I don't think that's Kenobi's MO, but like, I bet you, there's
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a part of him whenever he wished he would have stayed with
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Satine, that he'd have been like, you know what, Maybe my
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younger brother had it right. Well, and I could see like one
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of the reasons I could actually see it is that maybe Jod knows,
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you know, that Obi Wan is his older brother and feels like an
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intense amount of resentment that he has the same skill but
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wasn't given the same respect. I mean, Obi Wan is famous all
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over the Galaxy. He was the hero next to Anakin
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Skywalker, the brothers, you know, and there's this guy and
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he says make the life you want. So he said fuck all and went off
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and became powerful in his own way.
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Very much. Just in his speech, the way he
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was talking about always having crumbs, like true, always being
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hungry and left crumbs and never getting the full, you know,
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piece of pie. He didn't say that, but that's
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pie is delicious and who doesn't want a full piece?
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But he loves. Pies.
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Obi Wan and Kenobi Pie. Wonder what his favorite type of
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pie would be? Obi Wan, Yeah.
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I fancy him a pecan pie kind of guy.
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We should ask James. James Arnold Taylor would know.
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I mean, he should. Oh my God.
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Well, we know what kind of sandwich he likes.
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Hey, hey, moving on. Yeah.
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So we haven't really even talked that much about Episode 6, which
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is just like the kids with their relationships with.
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Each other, I gotta say, they're knocking it out of the park once
23:52
again every single episode with the visuals.
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They're very believable. Yeah, they're they're beautiful.
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Yeah, I mean, just even the I the the last scene where the
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ship peels away from itself. Yeah, that was kind of very
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clever. I was not expecting that.
24:13
I was like you, you're damaged beyond repair.
24:16
What are you going to do? And I was like, whoa, there's a
24:19
whole another ship inside. That seems like if it's a pirate
24:23
ship, that seems like a pirate Y kind of thing to have done to
24:25
your ship now. Yeah.
24:27
My question is why wasn't any of Anakin's ships rigged with this
24:31
ability? Because that would have saved
24:33
him a lot of time and effort. Well, I actually kind of wonder
24:37
if it's like an A non protected interior where it's like you
24:41
build a ship that's like the general and then you put a hole
24:44
around it that has, you know, their deflector Shields and all
24:50
that. So I'm kind of wondering if this
24:52
is like a bear ship now that they're flying with no
24:54
protection. That's why the 33 said don't
24:58
ever do this because I bet you any money it's not protected
25:01
whatsoever now. Yeah, now you're just fish in a
25:05
barrel. I was cheering for Fern to hit
25:07
that button. I really was.
25:09
And I'm glad she did it. I'm glad.
25:11
Yeah. They all grew in this episode
25:14
and I really liked this episode because we got like kids have
25:18
issues with each other. Yeah.
25:22
There's a lot of pressure on all of them, so a lot of them aren't
25:26
talking about. They're just trying to do their
25:28
part to make this go well so they can all get go home.
25:30
But there's a lot of stuff going on in between all of them.
25:34
I think it's great to showcase that and and little Wim was so
25:40
proud of himself to help make the replacement cartridge
25:44
thingy. For he got to be useful for
25:47
once, yes? I thought that was really nice.
25:51
He basically saved her life and she had been feeling like, and
25:55
he said like everything I I'm always misreading who's the bad
25:58
guy. And like everything he said or
26:00
contributes gets shit on and doesn't work out.
26:03
Even his own dad, he asked his dad to read him a story and his
26:06
dad's like, are you too old for that?
26:07
Yeah, which I just never say that to a child.
26:12
I would read you a story if you were 40 and asked me to read you
26:15
a story. 100% my my mom read to me every single night and I and
26:20
I really credit my love of reading and storytelling and
26:23
fictional building and creativity in my brain from the
26:26
nightly stories that I looked forward to.
26:28
Never tell a kid they're you too busy to read.
26:31
Same, my parents read to us, if we asked they would do it every
26:35
time and sometimes they would just say before bed pick out a
26:37
book and I the same. The way my parents read too.
26:41
Made me excited to like hear the stories.
26:44
It was, yeah. I think it's, I think it's going
26:49
to be cool if Wim's going to be able to tell his own cool
26:53
stories someday. Like he's going to have so many
26:56
from this. It may not seem like the
26:59
adventure he dreamed of. It's.
27:01
It's dangerous out there and it's messy.
27:03
And what else did he say? He listed all those things off
27:05
where it just didn't. You know, it's not the the story
27:11
that goes from A to B to C so fluently.
27:13
And everyone's a hero and everything works out and all
27:15
this stuff that's the real adventure is making your way
27:18
through the garbage that is life.
27:22
Yeah. And the quote side quests that
27:25
come out of dealing with things in the moment.
27:27
And if Wim goes back and retells his tale from A-Z just in this
27:33
season, he has a hell of an adventure to tell.
27:36
And I think that's why I really like Jod because he says that to
27:41
him. Basically, he says you have this
27:43
incredible imagination in this bullshit, terrible universe that
27:48
we live in. And like he's got a very cynical
27:50
perspective, but of course he does.
27:52
He's an adult, so we can see what's going on.
27:55
And these kids are little kids still living, you know, with
27:59
their whim. Uses his stories as his comfort
28:03
blanket, basically is safety blanket.
28:06
And JAD is trying to say you can still exist in this universe
28:13
with your little beautiful thoughts, but they can help you
28:16
be creative in solving the problems that you're in.
28:21
And then Wim does that and it's awesome.
28:23
And I think that I love JAD as an unreliable narrator because
28:26
you can't trust him, but it doesn't mean that he doesn't
28:29
give really good advice sometimes to these kids.
28:31
Everything he was spitting was truth.
28:34
It wasn't wrapped it with a pretty bow, but it was cold,
28:37
hard facts, you know? And can you trust it to not be
28:41
him manipulating those kids? No.
28:43
But can they still use it as good advice?
28:45
Yes. So I think that's what makes it
28:47
so much more interesting. I love an unreliable narrator
28:51
that I like because then I get pulled in with it and then it's
28:55
like, oh God, I don't know if I should be liking this, but I am.
28:59
Well, it shows the heart of children as well because
29:02
everyone they meet tells them don't trust this guy and they
29:06
still find ways to trust him even after the kind of faulty
29:11
way he's leading them through this journey.
29:14
And I think it's going to, I think that's going to lead him
29:18
to have a like a coming of age moment himself where I think
29:22
he's going to side with the kids at some point.
29:25
Maybe not this season because we only have two episodes, but
29:29
maybe. I don't know.
29:30
I don't know how they're going to wrap this up in 2.
29:33
Kind of sad it's over. I know it's, it's like we've all
29:39
come such a long way. We have.
29:45
Well, I, I loved how the arguments that came up between
29:50
the kids was not like what you see in a lot of kids stories
29:53
where they kind of start fighting over in a petulant way.
29:56
Like they start doing it and Fern is like, I'm not having
30:01
this baby argument with you and puts a stop to the usual way you
30:05
would see it in a movie or TV show.
30:08
And I think it's way more truthful because kids don't
30:12
express themselves the way adults do.
30:15
And sometimes it takes getting out of your usual circle, like
30:19
how they switched partners in this episode.
30:23
I I loved when Neil was like, yeah, you have to accept that I
30:27
have short legs. Like, I just cannot do what you
30:31
can do. And then she found a way to be
30:34
compassionate and find a solution.
30:36
And, like, compromise is such a beautiful thing.
30:39
If you've ever been in a relationship where you don't
30:41
have compromise and then you have it with somebody, you
30:44
realize, like, how deeply meaningful that is.
30:47
And I love seeing that. That scene was one of the most
30:50
mature scenes I've seen and it came out of two people that were
30:53
under the age of 15, give or take.
30:57
And a lot of grown adults won't compromise and they will pick on
31:02
a person because of their differences or their
31:05
shortcomings. And that's what KB said to Wim.
31:08
Like Fern expects her to always be on top of things, always have
31:13
the answer and and she's different.
31:16
She's not the same as Fern and she wants to be acknowledged for
31:19
that. Different.
31:20
Just because she's different doesn't mean XYZ what Fern may
31:25
think about her. And I think it's great.
31:28
We have to honor the differences amongst people.
31:32
They don't have to divide us. They should make us grow
31:34
stronger together. And that is a those two scenes
31:38
between those four kids is like what did it for me with that
31:41
episode. It was just perfect.
31:43
It was perfection in the kids. The actors and actresses.
31:46
These little kids are doing a phenomenal job.
31:50
So good. And I, I kind of liked that
31:53
everyone had a valid perspective because KB wasn't telling Fern
31:58
and wasn't giving Fern the benefit of the doubt either,
32:00
right? And Fern was like, why didn't
32:02
you just tell me? And KB was like, why can't she
32:05
just see it? And they all have a valid
32:07
argument. And I think the best kind of
32:11
storytelling is where each character gets to grow and then
32:14
they meet more in the middle. Especially with something like
32:17
this, sometimes that's not satisfying or that's not what
32:19
you're looking for. But with this, with Star Wars,
32:22
we want that. Like we want them to become a
32:24
more cohesive team. It's really rewarding.
32:27
It is. And I said that when I first
32:28
started these episodes. I said I want something deeper.
32:31
I want some messiness while I'm getting it.
32:33
So now I'm feeling pretty good. But you know, what's happening
32:37
here with these kids is they're becoming a really good crew.
32:41
Yeah, yeah, like. They're turning into.
32:44
Yes, yes, that's like the last scene.
32:47
They all have their purpose and their job and what they're good
32:52
at. And it's the it's the four
32:55
cohesive units of Han, Chewie, Leia, Luke.
32:59
OK, like, if you want to, not exactly, but they're like a
33:04
bunch of ragtags come together, don't know each other to begin
33:07
with. And then they have become the
33:08
A-Team. And I love that I love it.
33:12
All these people thrown in together in a really scary
33:15
situation and they're not quite vibing, you know, like even Luke
33:19
and Han didn't quite get along, and Leia and Han didn't get
33:23
along. Well, see, these are all adults,
33:25
right? And they didn't communicate with
33:26
each other what they wanted or what they needed or what, what's
33:29
going on with everything. And then we're seeing real life
33:34
issues with these children and, and all of this happened when
33:39
JOD was removed and they were allowed to be the four
33:43
individuals that they are. Yeah.
33:45
So I think Jod's going to encounter a completely different
33:48
crew, if you will, when he encounters them next.
33:51
I think so too because they're not only like this whole episode
33:55
is about them like becoming cohesive but independent at the
33:59
same time. They all have each have a
34:01
different strength and now they're supporting each other in
34:05
that strength while working independently.
34:08
It's like when she told Neil like, take the wheel, like I'm
34:11
one of them was going to do thrusters and the other was
34:13
going to do steering or whatever it was.
34:15
And it's like, I loved that. It was very exciting to watch it
34:20
all starting to come together. And then Wynn was like, I'm
34:22
going to go up to the gunnership.
34:24
It was like he decided for himself, yeah, he did.
34:26
Nobody told him. He just went.
34:28
Because he knew he could do it. So there's a there's a level of
34:31
trust that's building there. And I bet you any money when
34:33
they see Jaw, they're going to tell him we don't need you
34:35
anymore. We don't need you or the Droid.
34:37
You can. You can just be about yourself
34:39
and we don't need you, which I think is great.
34:41
It's so great. I think it's going to be really
34:43
rewarding. Yeah, I love it.
34:51
All right. So our question for you, not
34:54
related to Skeleton Crew, what kind of pie do you think is Obi
34:59
Wan Kenobi's favorite pie? We need to know this is a very
35:03
important question we decided to ask so.
35:07
And do you think he would like eat a whole pie by himself or
35:10
just reserve himself to one piece as a treat every now and
35:14
then? I feel like he would be a closet
35:16
pie eater. Would take a whole pie back to
35:18
his quarters and eat the. This is if it's a particularly
35:22
bad mission with Anakin. He's eaten the whole pie.
35:26
Just one of those brownie pies, which is a brownie and a pie
35:29
crust. Who wouldn't eat the whole
35:32
thing? I think that's called chess pie,
35:35
which kind of makes sense. He's eating it regardless.
35:41
So anyway, let us do your thoughts on that very important
35:44
topic. And for our next episode, we are
35:48
going to discuss the final two episodes of Skeleton Crew.
35:50
We're going to see how this whole thing wraps up.
35:53
And also just as a footnote, we are going to be issuing that
35:58
episode bi weekly like we have been, but it'll be later in that
36:03
week. So not Tuesday like we usually
36:05
do. It'll be later in that week, but
36:06
the still the same week. So yeah, just a little bit
36:09
later, because we have a lot going on in the calendar, so.
36:13
Yeah, a little busy. All right.
36:18
In our last episode we discussed Skeleton Crew obviously, and we
36:22
asked folks what their thoughts were about JAD specifically.
36:26
But then also on Instagram I kind of asked how people were
36:29
liking the show so far, what were their thoughts, and we had
36:31
some really cool responses. Z said I think JAD is a
36:35
scoundrel, but will probably turn good slash be redeemed at
36:38
the end because Neil is too precious for JAD not to.
36:43
This is true. OBT novel when?
36:50
With three question marks said, Can you guess what this comments
36:55
going to be about? Part of me hopes Jot is actually
36:57
Corky and that his force sensitivity means he's a Kenobi,
37:01
but I know deep down that we can't have nice things in the
37:04
fandom. That is also a good theory.
37:08
I didn't think of that. But we can't have nice things.
37:11
Nope. Or maybe we can, I don't know.
37:15
Probably not. And the Jedi Master Adam said my
37:20
inner child is loving this show. My theory on Jude's character is
37:23
he was a kid at the order but never took the trials and left
37:27
to follow the beat of his own drum.
37:29
Thus quote not a Jedi, but was trained in the Force.
37:34
Yeah. I mean, it's kind of going that
37:36
way. Yeah.
37:38
And it's all like it's basically everyone's kind of in keeping
37:41
with what we have talked about already in the show.
37:44
So I I can't wait to see, I hope we get some sort of answer in
37:48
season 1. But now I'm kind of now that we
37:50
only have two episodes left, I don't know if we're going to get
37:54
any resolution here. Yet we can't have nice things
37:56
that includes. Answers true, Very true.
38:04
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