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- 0:00Speaker 1: Time is here, No time to fear.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Coral is so near because show time is here.
- 0:06Speaker 1: So on with the show. Let's give it a go.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Krell is the one that you need to know.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Now it's show time.
- 0:31Speaker 1: All right, It is time for this gay Week. On
- 0:34Speaker 1: this Thursday, August thirteenth, Scott Jacobson of The good Man
- 0:39Speaker 1: Project is gonna join us from Ukraine, a very special
- 0:42Speaker 1: spot in Ukraine. We're all right, we are here. We're
- 0:50Speaker 1: gonna jump right to it because a he's in a
- 0:52Speaker 1: war zone, be his power is fading, and all kinds
- 0:57Speaker 1: of issues he's having, but he is here with us
- 0:59Speaker 1: at the moment. And if it just goes dead, it
- 1:00Speaker 1: just goes dead. That's just just the way it is.
- 1:03Speaker 1: But here is Scott in his Ask Scot, or ask Scott,
- 1:09Speaker 1: And I don't know where.
- 1:10Speaker 2: He is A Scott about Scott's Scott exactly.
- 1:13Speaker 1: I don't know where he's at. But he's got that
- 1:14Speaker 1: pulpsating disco that what is it? Boots and pens and
- 1:18Speaker 1: boots and pens and boots and pans disco going on
- 1:20Speaker 1: behind him.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Which is fine.
- 1:23Speaker 1: And I'm told you're across the street from a Maga
- 1:26Speaker 1: Laura Lumer. I forget what she did. She did something
- 1:29Speaker 1: about Ukraine, and I guess she went over did something.
- 1:32Speaker 1: But you're right across the street from the spot.
- 1:35Speaker 2: She interviewed as Lensky, she changed her opinion on Ukraine,
- 1:41Speaker 2: renounced Russian propaganda that she admitted to believing. She traveled
- 1:46Speaker 2: to you Ukraine in late July. She went to Broad
- 1:51Speaker 2: Skeet Synagogue or Central Synagogue. The Chief Rabbi Ukraine, or
- 1:56Speaker 2: one of the claimants to Chief Rabbi of Ukraine, is
- 1:58Speaker 2: a gentleman named Musha Asthma something to Ronsky for services,
- 2:03Speaker 2: one during Shabbatz and one during Shablutz, and I talked
- 2:07Speaker 2: to him for about forty minutes after one of them,
- 2:10Speaker 2: and she met him, talked to him, learned some things maybe.
- 2:16Speaker 2: But when she went in the Staky's photography, she was
- 2:19Speaker 2: right across the street from the Holy Burger where I
- 2:21Speaker 2: am now at Ronsky Synagogue.
- 2:24Speaker 1: You're at a place called Holy Burger. You're not at
- 2:26Speaker 1: a place called Holy.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Burgers across the street from Central Synagogue.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Only on my show. Okay, great. By the way, I
- 2:36Speaker 1: just want you to know before before we get rip
- 2:38Speaker 1: roaring here. If we go to Instagram let me just
- 2:41Speaker 1: look at something here. I've been posting our little snippets
- 2:46Speaker 1: of our conversations. Uh, and the one that we had
- 2:49Speaker 1: about Diana Ross, believe it or not, just about her
- 2:53Speaker 1: doing World Pride and all of that forty six hundred views?
- 2:58Speaker 1: Did you freeze you from a Oh? No, did his
- 3:02Speaker 1: right at the beginning? Oh lord, look he's gone, and
- 3:07Speaker 1: I just wanted to share with him how many fabulous people.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Oh there he is again. All right, well we'll get
- 3:13Speaker 1: back to him. Hold on, okay, there, So our post
- 3:16Speaker 1: about Diana Ross has already had forty six thousand views. Yeah.
- 3:21Speaker 1: And last week when I posted this Gay Week and
- 3:25Speaker 1: I posted our snippets just on Instagram alone, one of
- 3:30Speaker 1: ours right now, the Hunter Biden gay cabal claim that's
- 3:33Speaker 1: at twenty eight thousand views.
- 3:36Speaker 2: So these are significant numbers. Those are non trivial.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Yeah, so people are liking, well, my other post are
- 3:42Speaker 1: getting For some reason, some of my posts on Instagram
- 3:45Speaker 1: are doing thirty forty thousand views. Now I don't know
- 3:47Speaker 1: why my YouTube isn't, but my Instagram is all right,
- 3:50Speaker 1: So Scott is there. We are going to do this
- 3:53Speaker 1: Gay Week, and it's funny you sent me a story
- 3:56Speaker 1: that I did want to talk about I wanted to
- 3:58Speaker 1: start with, but I can't seem to find it at
- 4:01Speaker 1: the moment. But when we get to it, I'll go, oh, yeah,
- 4:04Speaker 1: that's the story that I wanted to start with because
- 4:07Speaker 1: it was something that I covered on my show. Oh
- 4:09Speaker 1: yeah here, So on my show, I covered that in
- 4:12Speaker 1: San Francisco the gay bars were using AI facial recognition
- 4:17Speaker 1: to let you in and they were keeping the data
- 4:22Speaker 1: for thirty days, and they were sharing the data with
- 4:24Speaker 1: other bars. Well, one thing about marginalized groups, they don't
- 4:29Speaker 1: like to be surveilled. And the game lesbian community, we
- 4:33Speaker 1: have a long history of being surveilled by police, law
- 4:39Speaker 1: enforcement or whatever. So when it was coming to our
- 4:42Speaker 1: own bars, we objected, and we objected loudly, just like
- 4:47Speaker 1: in America we are objecting to these flock cameras. But
- 4:49Speaker 1: that's a different story. And so you sent me the
- 4:53Speaker 1: story that San Francisco gay bars back off the AI
- 4:57Speaker 1: assisted face scanning technology after the uproar, and I just
- 5:02Speaker 1: think it was sown tone death of the gay bars
- 5:04Speaker 1: to not realize that gay patrons are not going to
- 5:08Speaker 1: be up for being surveilled. And let's be real, some
- 5:12Speaker 1: of us. People going to those bars may not be
- 5:14Speaker 1: out at work, may not be out at home. They
- 5:17Speaker 1: don't want their face scan going into a gay bar,
- 5:20Speaker 1: and maybe that shouldn't be an issue. But in a
- 5:22Speaker 1: time where Donald Trump is gathering lists of people, I
- 5:26Speaker 1: think a lot of people were afraid that they could
- 5:29Speaker 1: end up on a list, so they did re send that.
- 5:31Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that and so much more
- 5:33Speaker 1: when we come back with Scott at Holy Burger from
- 5:37Speaker 1: a ynagogue in the Ukraine where Laura Lumer visited is
- 5:41Speaker 1: we'll probably a little shrine there too and maybe change
- 5:44Speaker 1: what little mind she has. So we'll be back and
- 5:47Speaker 1: talk more with.
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- 6:03Speaker 1: deep with everyone, it's corral stream. You have to be
- 6:09Speaker 1: proud wherever you get your music and let it fill
- 6:12Speaker 1: you with the pride it filled me in doing it
- 6:19Speaker 1: to be strong. Show time is here. No time to.
- 6:25Speaker 2: Fear Correll is so near because show time is here.
- 6:29Speaker 1: So on with the show. Let's give it a go.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Corell is the one that you need some All right,
- 6:38Speaker 1: we are back. She got Jacobson, who now has a
- 6:40Speaker 1: halo over his head. The light on the ceiling. You
- 6:45Speaker 1: look angelic. Uh we're during this day week. Ember is
- 6:50Speaker 1: on my lap, as you can all see there where
- 6:52Speaker 1: she is there she is. Uh, there is lightning within
- 6:55Speaker 1: eight miles of my house. I just got an alert
- 6:57Speaker 1: that says seek shelter immediately. Lightning within eight miles. There's
- 7:00Speaker 1: a thunderstorm that's popped up here in the desert. And
- 7:03Speaker 1: Ember absolutely hates them. Uh So she wanted to be
- 7:07Speaker 1: with her dad, So she'll be my little co host
- 7:09Speaker 1: here today. All right, Scott, kick it off. Pick a story.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Let's go roulette. You pick. I always lead the way
- 7:16Speaker 1: these did, and that's your segment, So you lead.
- 7:20Speaker 2: I mean, okay, so Russia, the straight.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Guy and the gig I are gonna fight over who leads?
- 7:27Speaker 1: What are we about at ballroom dancing? What is this?
- 7:34Speaker 1: I would ballroom dance for you?
- 7:38Speaker 2: It's it's the it's there's more, okay.
- 7:41Speaker 1: But I'm the bigger of the two of us. So
- 7:43Speaker 1: if anyone has to dip, it's gonna be you, okay,
- 7:45Speaker 1: because you would fall to the ground if you tried to,
- 7:49Speaker 1: you know, dip me. So I'm a big bully.
- 7:56Speaker 2: So this group that assists women and queer violence survivors
- 8:01Speaker 2: in the North Concasus Regional it got an extremist uh
- 8:07Speaker 2: organization Desnation and as there's been an expansion of anti
- 8:11Speaker 2: LTP cracked down, I'm supported by quote the racing.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Uh.
- 8:18Speaker 1: You know, yeah, we see this across the globe now
- 8:23Speaker 1: where things that I don't want to say have been normalized.
- 8:27Speaker 1: But let's be real, being gay and LGBTQ, that sort
- 8:31Speaker 1: of stuff. Uh, it's it's getting you know, it's pretty
- 8:34Speaker 1: normal in modern day society now. And so to combat that,
- 8:38Speaker 1: these organizations are now trying to label it something other
- 8:42Speaker 1: than normal. And so here they're calling trans people radical
- 8:48Speaker 1: gender ideology. That's that's what they say in our government
- 8:53Speaker 1: when they talk about trans people, they talk about radical
- 8:57Speaker 1: gender ideology, and they're using terms like extremist, radical, and
- 9:05Speaker 1: they're doing this across the globe to once again try
- 9:08Speaker 1: to make gay people, trans people or their allies seems
- 9:12Speaker 1: like they are on the fringe or like they are extreme,
- 9:15Speaker 1: because then you can more easily marginalize them, vote against them.
- 9:22Speaker 1: That sort of stuff. So if you label someone an extremist,
- 9:25Speaker 1: if you label a movement extreme, if you label being
- 9:28Speaker 1: trans radical, gender ideology, when you try to oppress those people,
- 9:34Speaker 1: it's more palatable. It's sort of like if you shoot
- 9:40Speaker 1: how do I say this? If you shoot an animal
- 9:44Speaker 1: known to be a predator, you know, a lion or
- 9:47Speaker 1: a hippo, because those kill more people than lions, everyone understands, oh,
- 9:52Speaker 1: they're a predator, they were going to kill you. But
- 9:55Speaker 1: if you shoot a cute, little furry rabbit, everyone's like,
- 9:58Speaker 1: why are you're killing the rabbit? And it's the same thing.
- 10:01Speaker 1: We want. Those who oppose gay people want gay people
- 10:07Speaker 1: to be seen as radical, as extreme, as far right,
- 10:12Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. But we're not, and supporting us isn't.
- 10:17Speaker 1: But they are trying to reframe the dialogue to make
- 10:19Speaker 1: it easier to make laws against us and to discriminate
- 10:23Speaker 1: against us. So if you label these women who simply
- 10:26Speaker 1: help other women and simply help you know, other individuals
- 10:31Speaker 1: in their life, if you label them extremists, it's easier
- 10:35Speaker 1: to say, oh, we're going to put them out of business,
- 10:37Speaker 1: we're going to jail them, we're going to stop their organization.
- 10:40Speaker 1: They're an extremist organization. It's verbiage, but it works. Unfortunately,
- 10:45Speaker 1: I mean it's a tactic that works.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Next doort sure? All right? Well, for all the gunkles
- 10:56Speaker 2: out there.
- 10:57Speaker 1: Yes this story. I said, wait a minute, what is
- 11:04Speaker 1: Donna Donna Dungannong or I'm like seriously, And then I
- 11:09Speaker 1: found out it was it was a place in Australia
- 11:11Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, but but what is it? Dandenong
- 11:21Speaker 1: d A n d e n o n G dandon
- 11:24Speaker 1: nong uh. Five people have been arrested in dan Dingong
- 11:30Speaker 1: as police investigate alleged homophobic attacks across Victoria. The alarming
- 11:36Speaker 1: thing is here. First of all, good on the police,
- 11:40Speaker 1: good for making the arrest, good for taking it seriously,
- 11:42Speaker 1: good for following through. Okay, that's that's the first thing.
- 11:46Speaker 1: But second of all, it's really interesting that we're seeing
- 11:52Speaker 1: more and more rise in these kinds of crimes. Five
- 11:56Speaker 1: males have been accused of eleven homophobic attacks in the
- 12:00Speaker 1: Dandenong area. They live in Dandingdong. Jesus Christ, their city
- 12:03Speaker 1: sounds like a dog, you know. Police allege the group
- 12:08Speaker 1: used dating apps and we have talked about this. Scott
- 12:10Speaker 1: you and I dating apps and social media to lure
- 12:14Speaker 1: victims to locations before sexually assaulting and robbing them. Fifty
- 12:18Speaker 1: people have been arrested and more than a hundred attacks
- 12:23Speaker 1: in the past three years. This is a trend. I
- 12:26Speaker 1: mean that the numbers are not porting to Yeah, it's
- 12:29Speaker 1: a trend, and I really need to emphasize here to
- 12:32Speaker 1: anyone reading this in your view on the good Man Project,
- 12:37Speaker 1: anyone watching this hook up apps, I'm sorry, they're too dangerous. Now.
- 12:44Speaker 1: Can you just go out and meet somebody, you know,
- 12:48Speaker 1: go to a bar, go to a park, to go
- 12:50Speaker 1: to someplasters, gay people, a Republican convention, Uh, you know, go,
- 12:55Speaker 1: But dating apps too many times now, the Craigslist killers. Look,
- 13:02Speaker 1: I watch a TV show on Peacock and it's not
- 13:07Speaker 1: just about gay but the entire show four seasons, fifteen
- 13:12Speaker 1: episodes per season, sixty episodes of people that responded to
- 13:18Speaker 1: social media ads and ended up dead, beaten, robbed, killed.
- 13:23Speaker 1: It's called There's and there's another one on Paramount Plus,
- 13:28Speaker 1: and there's another one on Hulu. So there's three separate
- 13:31Speaker 1: shows about people that arrange social media hookups and end
- 13:36Speaker 1: up or you know, dating app hookups. Or online Facebook
- 13:40Speaker 1: or whatever and end up being catfished, beaten, robbed, or killed.
- 13:44Speaker 1: And with those kinds of numbers, I just I don't
- 13:47Speaker 1: see the logic in using gay hookup apps because nowadays
- 13:54Speaker 1: you don't know who you're talking to, you really don't.
- 13:56Speaker 1: And with AI, I mean, we haven't covered this, but
- 13:59Speaker 1: they're there's an app, a gay hookup app. Well they
- 14:02Speaker 1: say it's not a hookup app. It's actually for gays.
- 14:04Speaker 1: The dudes want to hook up, which is a lie,
- 14:06Speaker 1: because every gay man wants to hook up. Well, every
- 14:09Speaker 1: straight man wants to hook up. Every man wants to
- 14:11Speaker 1: hook up. But the founders got into trouble because the
- 14:17Speaker 1: men they were using, the profiles they were using to
- 14:20Speaker 1: invite people to the app were AI generated. They weren't
- 14:24Speaker 1: real gay people. They were AI generated gay people to
- 14:30Speaker 1: inviting real gay people to come and use this app
- 14:33Speaker 1: for gay people that don't want to have hookup apps,
- 14:38Speaker 1: and they've come into great. You know, it's mess it's
- 14:41Speaker 1: very messy. Police say. Groups of offenders have been posting
- 14:45Speaker 1: as legitimate users on these platforms to lure into meeting
- 14:49Speaker 1: men into meeting them, They then get assaulted, rob threatened,
- 14:52Speaker 1: or subjugated to what police described as homophobic violence or comments,
- 14:57Speaker 1: five males between the ages of sixteen and a eighteen. Now,
- 15:01Speaker 1: this brings up a bigger question. Sixteen sixteen to eighteen
- 15:10Speaker 1: year old men, and I'll let you take care of
- 15:13Speaker 1: the holy burger there, sixteen to eighteen year old kids.
- 15:18Speaker 1: Where did they learn to do this? And why are
- 15:24Speaker 1: they doing it? Why? Why would a sixteen year When
- 15:27Speaker 1: I was sixteen year old, the last thing on my
- 15:29Speaker 1: mind would be catfishing someone. We didn't have that technology,
- 15:33Speaker 1: but still the last thing on my mind at sixteen
- 15:36Speaker 1: was to go harm someone from some marginalized group. That
- 15:39Speaker 1: was the last thing on my mind. So who is
- 15:42Speaker 1: teaching these kids at sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen that this
- 15:48Speaker 1: is a great pastime, that this is something to do.
- 15:50Speaker 1: I'll tell you who. Social media, their parents, you know, television.
- 15:57Speaker 1: This is not happening in a vacuum. You know, these
- 16:00Speaker 1: kids are being groomed to hate the LGBTQ community so
- 16:04Speaker 1: much that they are attacking them in And that's what's
- 16:09Speaker 1: more scary from this story and the fact that just
- 16:12Speaker 1: in in Victoria there's been one hundred and thirteen similar
- 16:16Speaker 1: attacks resulting in forty seven arrest. That's an alarming trend.
- 16:22Speaker 1: That's something that needs to be addressed, not just reported on.
- 16:26Speaker 1: And I feel the social media companies need to do
- 16:29Speaker 1: something to verify that you are who you say you are.
- 16:34Speaker 4: You know.
- 16:34Speaker 1: How how is it they can go on and post
- 16:37Speaker 1: this AI generated photo of some hot guy and lure
- 16:41Speaker 1: these people to someplace and the app doesn't make anybody
- 16:45Speaker 1: aware that these people are fake. I mean that that's
- 16:49Speaker 1: a bigger issue. You know, why isn't the app you know,
- 16:53Speaker 1: because Meta just had to settle for a billion dollars
- 16:55Speaker 1: about being addictive and all of that. Well, dating app
- 16:59Speaker 1: should have some kind of vetting process to make you
- 17:01Speaker 1: prove you are who you say you are, you know.
- 17:04Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that simple. Whether it's uploading a
- 17:06Speaker 1: piece of ID or something, there needs to be some
- 17:11Speaker 1: you know, proof of life sort of video to I
- 17:15Speaker 1: laugh because Mitch McConnell, you know, with his newspaper holding
- 17:18Speaker 1: up his newspaper. But there needs to be something to
- 17:22Speaker 1: prove that you are who you say you are. And
- 17:25Speaker 1: I think, you know, one of these cases is too much.
- 17:28Speaker 1: One hundred and thirteen is way too much. And this
- 17:31Speaker 1: is just in one area. How much of this is
- 17:33Speaker 1: happening globally and I think somebody, yeah, well, and as
- 17:38Speaker 1: you know, women and gay men tend to not report
- 17:43Speaker 1: violence against them because of the shame, you know, particularly
- 17:46Speaker 1: gay men. You know, they may not be as out
- 17:48Speaker 1: and open as and they know how they're afraid the
- 17:50Speaker 1: police are going to just because in many countries still
- 17:54Speaker 1: police discount violence against gays. They don't give it a
- 17:58Speaker 1: high priority, or they act like a gay person wanted it,
- 18:01Speaker 1: you know, like they used to do for women before
- 18:03Speaker 1: Mariska Hargeta had a TV show, you know, they so
- 18:08Speaker 1: a lot of gays would probably not report it if
- 18:11Speaker 1: it happened to them because they don't want the embarrassment. Hey,
- 18:15Speaker 1: it's embarrassing. You got fooled and you got duped. You know,
- 18:19Speaker 1: that's embarrassing. And then you got duped because you're gay,
- 18:23Speaker 1: that's even more embarrassing.
- 18:27Speaker 2: And the legal cases for these particular lot of time
- 18:30Speaker 2: is worth the extended hassle outside of the Greek traumatization.
- 18:36Speaker 1: I agree. I couldn't agree more. You sent a cute
- 18:40Speaker 1: story the other day. My niece and nephew, my nieces
- 18:43Speaker 1: a nephew sent me a happy gay Uncle's Day, and
- 18:47Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck, there's a gay Uncle's Day,
- 18:50Speaker 1: and all these years you haven't been giving me presents,
- 18:52Speaker 1: you know, I want a retroactive, happy gay Uncle's Day.
- 18:56Speaker 1: But the second Sunday of August is in fact Gay's Day,
- 19:01Speaker 1: and it's international. It's not just in the United States
- 19:05Speaker 1: that we honor gunkles as we're called. We're called gunkles
- 19:08Speaker 1: gay uncles. But it's not just a day for gay uncles.
- 19:13Speaker 1: It also honors lesbian aunts and queer and trans an
- 19:17Speaker 1: extended chosen family. So it is really a day to
- 19:20Speaker 1: acknowledge the gay extended family in your life. For instance,
- 19:26Speaker 1: my niece and nephew, Jake and Heather, they're not biological,
- 19:28Speaker 1: they're Andrew's niece and nephew and he's been gone twenty
- 19:30Speaker 1: five years, but I'm still their gay uncle, you know.
- 19:34Speaker 1: So it is a way to acknowledge everybody in your
- 19:38Speaker 1: life that may be trans or buy or queer or
- 19:42Speaker 1: you know whatever, lesbian, gay, and acknowledge them on the
- 19:45Speaker 1: second Sunday of August and acknowledge their role in your life.
- 19:50Speaker 1: And I really think that a story like this it
- 19:57Speaker 1: speaks to how uh oh we lost him again. We
- 20:02Speaker 1: keep losing him, Arrius. I really think a story like
- 20:05Speaker 1: this speaks to the fact that we mention every week,
- 20:08Speaker 1: which is, gays and lesbians are incorporated into the fabric
- 20:14Speaker 1: of every family, and every family has a gay uncle
- 20:18Speaker 1: or a lesbian aunt, or you know, a trans brother
- 20:23Speaker 1: or sister or something. And I think that Gay Uncle's
- 20:26Speaker 1: Day really shows how integrated into families gays and lesbians
- 20:31Speaker 1: really are. And I think it's a very positive thing
- 20:35Speaker 1: that we have it. And I would really like to
- 20:37Speaker 1: start receiving gifts on that day. So it's the second August,
- 20:40Speaker 1: second Sunday and August I fully expect gifts, cards, flowers,
- 20:45Speaker 1: vegan chocolates, whatever. I fully expect gifts. I deserve them
- 20:49Speaker 1: and I want them.
- 20:53Speaker 2: Even if it's not the second Sunday of August. Please
- 20:55Speaker 2: send them.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Yeah again, any day, any week, I'll take it.
- 21:01Speaker 3: Well.
- 21:01Speaker 2: The big thing is also, uh.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Did you ever have a did you ever have a
- 21:07Speaker 1: gay uncle or a lesbian aunt or anything like that?
- 21:12Speaker 2: Should I bring yes, I will keep that line. I
- 21:17Speaker 2: will keep that line, but I will say, let's bed
- 21:21Speaker 2: better part in the family. And I am the honorary
- 21:26Speaker 2: Yam website.
- 21:27Speaker 1: How does that you're practically a gay uncle yourself. You're
- 21:30Speaker 1: just American out God for the level of dog day me.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Thank you. Hello, So you did have a gay out color,
- 21:37Speaker 1: I will draw yeah to be Hey everyone, it's corral.
- 21:59Speaker 1: You know, Pride was rough this year. We had a
- 22:01Speaker 1: lot of hate heaped upon us from Trump, from MAGA
- 22:05Speaker 1: and from other governments around the world. And if you
- 22:08Speaker 1: are a trans person you are really going through a
- 22:11Speaker 1: particular type of hell right now. That's why when I
- 22:13Speaker 1: was thinking of my next single in June, I sat
- 22:16Speaker 1: down and I wrote, you have to be proud. You
- 22:20Speaker 1: have to be proud with anger, so loud streaming everywhere,
- 22:25Speaker 1: keep fighting, keep singing, keep dancing. We're gonna win.
- 22:33Speaker 3: To be.
- 22:35Speaker 1: Now.
- 22:36Speaker 3: It's shoes.
- 22:40Speaker 1: All right, we are back. I have to ask, by
- 22:42Speaker 1: the way, you're in Ukraine, did you eclipse yesterday? Did
- 22:45Speaker 1: you get the eclipse there in Ukraine?
- 22:48Speaker 2: I didn't even look and I've I haven't mean time.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Oh my god, A solar eclipse, a full solar eclipse.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait wait. I did just do a
- 22:59Speaker 2: news story with a friend and we've talked about how
- 23:02Speaker 2: in Spain and Iceland, thousands of people wanted to see
- 23:06Speaker 2: this and went out to see it. Yeah, they said
- 23:08Speaker 2: eighty thousand tourists went to Iceland to go see this.
- 23:12Speaker 2: Just for context, the capital Reykivic maybe one hundred and
- 23:17Speaker 2: fifty thousand people that are citizens there, so they like
- 23:20Speaker 2: they added to fifty percent onto the total population of
- 23:23Speaker 2: the central city if you're just counting that for the
- 23:26Speaker 2: amount of tourists the ends. And people are very excited
- 23:28Speaker 2: about this. Well because time in twenty seven.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Years, because Iceland was in the zone of totality, which
- 23:35Speaker 1: meant it got completely black, like dark like night, and
- 23:39Speaker 1: that is a very cool thing in the middle of
- 23:41Speaker 1: the day to have it suddenly. I've been in an
- 23:44Speaker 1: eclipse where I was in the zone of totality and
- 23:47Speaker 1: it's probably the weirdest, eeriest, coolest thing that you will
- 23:53Speaker 1: ever experience. Everyone should experience it once in their lifetime.
- 23:56Speaker 1: And I can see how in medieval times they would
- 23:59Speaker 1: think the end was nigh or that there was a
- 24:02Speaker 1: witch or you know something, because it literally goes completely
- 24:06Speaker 1: dark in the middle of the day. Uh, and wind
- 24:09Speaker 1: usually kicks up, and I mean it is very otherworldly.
- 24:13Speaker 1: Because I know Ukraine got it. They're in the they're
- 24:16Speaker 1: in the zone, not May. They may not be in
- 24:17Speaker 1: the zone of totality, but they did get the eclipse.
- 24:21Speaker 3: Uh.
- 24:21Speaker 1: We didn't get it in the United States down where
- 24:23Speaker 1: I'm at in Las Vegas, but the northern US got
- 24:26Speaker 1: a little bit of it, but not very much. But yeah,
- 24:30Speaker 1: so I was wondering if you went and saw it,
- 24:32Speaker 1: but obviously you didn't, just too busy out there in
- 24:34Speaker 1: the world. Did you see the planetary alignment all seven planets?
- 24:41Speaker 3: No?
- 24:42Speaker 1: Well you still you can still see the leoned meteor shower.
- 24:46Speaker 1: It's happening all week, so you can still see that. Yes,
- 24:52Speaker 1: all right. Pope Leo has elevated pro gay, pro women
- 24:55Speaker 1: ordination voices to major church offices. Now that's very interesting,
- 25:00Speaker 1: And you sent these story about fifteen new consultors to
- 25:04Speaker 1: the Vatican Religious Life Office. But I have to ask you,
- 25:11Speaker 1: does this ring hollow to you? Because he's the pope.
- 25:14Speaker 1: He immediately could accept gay people, perform gay marriages, he
- 25:18Speaker 1: could change the policy tomorrow. He's the pope. The buck
- 25:21Speaker 1: stops with his protest shoes.
- 25:26Speaker 2: So I'm ambivalent on more than two things about this,
- 25:30Speaker 2: or I have more than two competing emotions about this.
- 25:34Speaker 2: So on the one hand, he is a religious figure.
- 25:37Speaker 2: On another hand, he's a political figure. On a third hand,
- 25:42Speaker 2: it is an old, slow moving steam engine of a culture,
- 25:49Speaker 2: the Roman Catholic religion, and so the movement of the pope,
- 25:53Speaker 2: especially as an older personal though younger among his cohort
- 25:58Speaker 2: people cohort uh, things will move in importance with that
- 26:04Speaker 2: culture and with that older age, with reguards to that
- 26:07Speaker 2: conservative religious tradition. And so if he is moving anything
- 26:12Speaker 2: in that progressive direction, but there's no indication as a
- 26:15Speaker 2: cannon guy rather than it's like he's basically setting it
- 26:22Speaker 2: up for after I'm dead.
- 26:25Speaker 1: Do you think him being American has anything to do
- 26:28Speaker 1: with his stance on LGBTQ people as a pope.
- 26:32Speaker 2: That being American doesn't tell me much. Being from Chicago
- 26:35Speaker 2: tells me more.
- 26:39Speaker 1: I agree. I agree, because there's many Americans who look.
- 26:44Speaker 1: But you know, by the way, Chicago. By the way,
- 26:46Speaker 1: Chicago got decimated this week, four tornadoes, one downtown, one
- 26:50Speaker 1: hundred and ten mile an hour winds, just just decimated.
- 26:55Speaker 1: But I so when you but here's the thing. The
- 27:00Speaker 1: Catholic Church is running out of converts. I mean they
- 27:03Speaker 1: say this, They need to convert more people, more people,
- 27:07Speaker 1: are leaving the church than entering the church. They want
- 27:10Speaker 1: young people. What we are seeing here in the elections
- 27:13Speaker 1: in the United States right now that has Democrats shitting
- 27:16Speaker 1: their parts is young people are turning out for these
- 27:21Speaker 1: quote democratic socialists. They're not democratic socialists, but they're calling
- 27:26Speaker 1: themselves that, but they're turning out and electing. Just the
- 27:29Speaker 1: other day in the one of the primaries, they elected
- 27:32Speaker 1: a progressive Democrat, meaning more socialists. And that's because young
- 27:39Speaker 1: people have said they want change, and they want huge change,
- 27:44Speaker 1: and they want it now. They want it quickly. They
- 27:47Speaker 1: want the wrecking ball that Donald Trump has used to
- 27:50Speaker 1: be used for progressive issues and they want it to
- 27:53Speaker 1: happen just as fast. If the Catholic Church wants to
- 27:58Speaker 1: maintain relevance, they are going to have to move faster
- 28:02Speaker 1: because young people such as yourself, do not want to
- 28:06Speaker 1: sit around and wait for twenty years for change. You
- 28:09Speaker 1: know it can be made now. You want it now.
- 28:12Speaker 1: You don't want to wait until you're sixty to have
- 28:14Speaker 1: the change. You want it now. And that's how you're voting,
- 28:17Speaker 1: and it's the block of people your age, and that's
- 28:20Speaker 1: how they're voting here in the US. Canada, the same
- 28:22Speaker 1: way we have seen in Canada that the younger people,
- 28:26Speaker 1: whether it's changed to the right or change to the left,
- 28:29Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. They want change and they want it
- 28:32Speaker 1: faster than not. And so I think the Pope needs
- 28:35Speaker 1: to step on it myself because I think people would
- 28:40Speaker 1: support it. Not all people, but I do think people
- 28:45Speaker 1: would support it.
- 28:48Speaker 2: I did an analysis of him when he first was
- 28:51Speaker 2: given this papal position. If I recall correctly, I was
- 28:58Speaker 2: indicating expect significant change on a couple of things. LGBT
- 29:05Speaker 2: was one of them, especially as a legal type of logian.
- 29:11Speaker 2: He is a canon guy, so when he makes a decree,
- 29:16Speaker 2: it's a little more substantive than one of the prior popes.
- 29:20Speaker 2: I think, with some boring cyclical about don't get abortions,
- 29:24Speaker 2: and then you'll have uh, you know, pro choice groups
- 29:29Speaker 2: in the United States who are a Catholic it worse anyway,
- 29:33Speaker 2: and then they'll they'll make the argument.
- 29:34Speaker 1: That I always roll my eyes in it.
- 29:36Speaker 3: All.
- 29:36Speaker 1: The Pope is protected by the Swiss Guard and to
- 29:38Speaker 1: join you have to be thirty, blonde and single. And
- 29:42Speaker 1: that's for that's the truth. That is the that is
- 29:44Speaker 1: the truth. The Swiss Guard guards the Pope, and to
- 29:48Speaker 1: join you have to be under thirty, single and blonde.
- 29:52Speaker 1: If that's not a buffet, then I don't know what
- 29:55Speaker 1: is sure.
- 29:56Speaker 2: Well yeah, so these these are these are good cultural
- 29:59Speaker 2: hypocrisies to point oh, but substantively on the position I
- 30:02Speaker 2: don't expect enormous chink.
- 30:06Speaker 1: Well no, here active job all right, Job's take a
- 30:09Speaker 1: quick commercial break and then come back with dot Jacob
- 30:12Speaker 1: Putt from the good Man Project, who is in Ukraine
- 30:15Speaker 1: at the Holy Burger a problem I'm very famous, exemple
- 30:20Speaker 1: a synodos and hopefully his power will laugh and he
- 30:23Speaker 1: won't be bombed. I mean, we've got two things working
- 30:25Speaker 1: against this.
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- 31:09Speaker 3: castriting you home or writing you crazy.
- 31:14Speaker 1: Stream I dance because on all services the song is
- 31:18Speaker 1: very very personal to me, and the video now is
- 31:21Speaker 1: very touchable to me. I cried the first time. I
- 31:23Speaker 1: want to cry all the time, but I cried the
- 31:25Speaker 1: first time I saw it. We all have somebody, whether
- 31:28Speaker 1: it's someone that's passed from age or some other thing,
- 31:31Speaker 1: we all have people that we danced with. That's why
- 31:34Speaker 1: we dance stream I dance because on all services we
- 31:44Speaker 1: work all night to get lucky. We work all night
- 31:47Speaker 1: to get lucky. I'm sitting here jamming together. It is
- 31:51Speaker 1: for real and it touches. Two things just touched my
- 31:54Speaker 1: heart and almost made me cry. First of all, Ember
- 31:57Speaker 1: is on my lap. And while Ember is inseparable from me,
- 32:00Speaker 1: she's always on her pillow or on this but she's
- 32:03Speaker 1: on my lap because she's scared and it still just
- 32:06Speaker 1: warms my heart. Whenever she's scared, she just comes right
- 32:08Speaker 1: to Daddy and like, Daddy, hold me. And the second is,
- 32:12Speaker 1: as someone with a single out right now, you have
- 32:14Speaker 1: to be proud and someone who has loved music my
- 32:17Speaker 1: whole life. You are in Ukraine, in a war zone,
- 32:20Speaker 1: in a burger joint and you're listening to Farrell and
- 32:24Speaker 1: it's the coolest thing. Because as a member of Grammy,
- 32:28Speaker 1: we always like to tell people music is universal It's
- 32:31Speaker 1: one of the most universal languages. It transcends boundaries and
- 32:36Speaker 1: cultures and color and race and all of it. And
- 32:40Speaker 1: you're proving it right there sitting there listening to Pharrell
- 32:42Speaker 1: in the Ukraine. You would not expect Pharrell Williams three
- 32:45Speaker 1: being played, you know, in the Ukraine, but there he
- 32:49Speaker 1: is being played in your burdens.
- 32:50Speaker 2: I'd expect his hats more than his music.
- 32:53Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Let's get to a good story. Out of
- 32:55Speaker 1: the Amsterdam and the Netherlands where World Pride was the
- 32:58Speaker 1: United Nations Development Program, the UNDP and the ILGA International
- 33:03Speaker 1: Lesbian Gay Association honored five outstanding equality champions with the
- 33:08Speaker 1: International Pride Award, which I fully expect you and I
- 33:12Speaker 1: to win next year, during a special ceremony at the
- 33:15Speaker 1: World Pride Human Rights Conference. The twenty twenty six International
- 33:19Speaker 1: Pride Awards celebrate individuals and organizations whose courage, leadership, and
- 33:24Speaker 1: commitment are advancing equality for LGBTQ people around the world.
- 33:29Speaker 1: The winners are South African Deputy Minister oh mab Pesca,
- 33:35Speaker 1: Steve Letsiki, the human rights organization coc Niderland, which obviously
- 33:42Speaker 1: is in the Netherlands. Long standing activists Marcella di Monti
- 33:47Speaker 1: from Chile, Ugandan transpastor Aggie Dennett Harman, and the disability
- 33:53Speaker 1: rights advocate and LGBTQ allied doctor Sendantra Singh. Eligible award
- 33:58Speaker 1: recipients from low and middle come countries will each receive
- 34:01Speaker 1: a ten thousand dollars grant to support their ongoing work.
- 34:04Speaker 1: We talk about a lot of bad stuff here, but
- 34:07Speaker 1: there sure are a lot of good people still in
- 34:08Speaker 1: the world trying to make a difference, aren't there. And
- 34:10Speaker 1: these five or five of those.
- 34:12Speaker 2: People I interview with the UNDP here too, So yeah,
- 34:16Speaker 2: they're everywhere in the DP is doing good working and
- 34:20Speaker 2: thank you, thank you.
- 34:22Speaker 1: And the UNDP doesn't just concentrate on LGBTQ issues. So
- 34:26Speaker 1: you interviewed them there about something else? Correct, Yes, about
- 34:31Speaker 1: the war?
- 34:31Speaker 2: I would imagine, yes, unless you might imagine that.
- 34:37Speaker 1: I'm glad you're doing a lot more interviews about the war.
- 34:39Speaker 1: I told you you got to get busy. You're sitting
- 34:41Speaker 1: in a freaking war zone. Capitalize which sounds like an
- 34:46Speaker 1: odd thing to say, capitalize off of war, but do
- 34:49Speaker 1: you know, well, it's it's more you're a journalist, you're
- 34:54Speaker 1: in a war zone.
- 34:56Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not capitalized on it in essentiury, you know,
- 35:00Speaker 2: an advantage of emphasize.
- 35:02Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not selling Zelenski t shirts out on the corner.
- 35:08Speaker 2: No, Actually, there's Putin toilet paper. The what what? Yeah?
- 35:15Speaker 2: When I bought this hat, it's light so it's good
- 35:18Speaker 2: for the heat and stuff. And I remember this lady
- 35:22Speaker 2: was selling toilet paper and had mister Putin's Peace on it.
- 35:28Speaker 1: You've just given me a billion dollar idea. I'm making
- 35:31Speaker 1: Trump toilet paper. I'm going to put Trump on toilet
- 35:34Speaker 1: paper so people can wipe the ass with the man.
- 35:38Speaker 2: I'll cut you in.
- 35:39Speaker 1: I'll cut you in fifty to fifty.
- 35:41Speaker 2: You gave me the idea, only only on the premise
- 35:46Speaker 2: mister Trumps were kissing and it's a big heart around them.
- 35:51Speaker 1: Were they I could do that very easily. That's that's
- 35:54Speaker 1: not the hell that they almost Practically before we go
- 35:57Speaker 1: to a break, I have to ask, have they made
- 36:00Speaker 1: a big deal in the Ukraine or have you heard
- 36:02Speaker 1: that our president dulked out of Turkey in a catering container.
- 36:08Speaker 1: He was literally shoved into a catering container.
- 36:10Speaker 2: Yeah, a friend of mine told you about this, and
- 36:14Speaker 2: it seems. It seems sort of like Steelbert meets Double
- 36:19Speaker 2: O seven or something.
- 36:21Speaker 1: I told my listeners it's right out of one of
- 36:23Speaker 1: those comedies that you see where they're trying to get
- 36:25Speaker 1: a body out of a hotel room. You know, it's like,
- 36:28Speaker 1: let's stop him in the catering container. I We'll be
- 36:31Speaker 1: right back from into Ukraine. We're going to talk about
- 36:34Speaker 1: Indonesia and some of the other places, all kinds of
- 36:37Speaker 1: things on this day week with Gott Jacobson from The
- 36:39Speaker 1: good Man Product. That's go Anywhere we shall return.
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- 37:02Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's Corral and I want to invite you
- 37:04Speaker 1: to stream my new single. You have to be proud
- 37:06Speaker 1: on Swiss Craft music. You have to be proud by Karna.
- 37:11Speaker 1: Go stream it, Go march to it, Go wave your
- 37:14Speaker 1: rainbow flags and piss off maga to it. Do whatever
- 37:17Speaker 1: you need to do to remind yourself and others we
- 37:21Speaker 1: are stronger than ever and they can't have our pride
- 37:29Speaker 1: to be strong. Show time is here, no time to fear.
- 37:36Speaker 2: Corel is so near because.
- 37:38Speaker 1: Show time is here.
- 37:39Speaker 2: So on with the show.
- 37:41Speaker 1: Let's give it a go. Corrella is the one that
- 37:45Speaker 1: you need some Oh my god, I feel so possed.
- 37:56Speaker 2: It was a good song in Latin dance clubs.
- 37:58Speaker 1: Oh it's yes. What's a great song here? Scott Jacobs,
- 38:01Speaker 1: some of the good Man projects, shipping his express espresso
- 38:04Speaker 1: there with his pinky up. God bless him because he's
- 38:06Speaker 1: doing this gay week with his asket and his pinky uh.
- 38:10Speaker 1: And we were laughing about Trump being shoved in, but mister,
- 38:14Speaker 1: I'm a hero. I can take a bullet for democracy.
- 38:16Speaker 1: And then he and then here's the biggest thing that
- 38:18Speaker 1: you should have a problem with. They left the press
- 38:22Speaker 1: corps on the plane that they thought was going to
- 38:25Speaker 1: be shot. So they had so they had They said
- 38:29Speaker 1: that they had credible evidence. Yeah, okay, So here's the story, Scott.
- 38:35Speaker 1: They said they had a credible threat that someone had
- 38:37Speaker 1: secured a shoulder to air missile and they were going
- 38:42Speaker 1: to shoot it at Air Force one, the new one
- 38:44Speaker 1: from Cutter with him on it. So they put him
- 38:47Speaker 1: on Air Force one, the new one, and then they
- 38:50Speaker 1: put a catering container up to the side like they're
- 38:53Speaker 1: going to put in burgers and drinks for his McDonald's.
- 38:56Speaker 1: And they put him in the catering container from the
- 39:00Speaker 1: Air Force one and then transfer him to a military plane.
- 39:05Speaker 1: They left everybody else, including the White House Press Corps,
- 39:10Speaker 1: on the cutter Air Force one and let it take
- 39:14Speaker 1: off and go. So had there really been an attack,
- 39:17Speaker 1: the media would have died.
- 39:20Speaker 2: If there were substantial, credible evidence for this. Then I
- 39:24Speaker 2: don't care if their Fox News, MSBC, whatever, I'm just
- 39:29Speaker 2: glad they're okay.
- 39:30Speaker 1: Oh, I said the same thing. I said the same thing.
- 39:33Speaker 3: You know.
- 39:33Speaker 1: I don't look I don't like, you know, the Fox
- 39:35Speaker 1: News people, but their journalists well we roughly used that term. Well,
- 39:41Speaker 1: let me rephrase. I did not rejoice when what's his
- 39:44Speaker 1: name got shot in the neck, and I would not
- 39:47Speaker 1: be happy if Sean Hannity went live streamed and cut
- 39:49Speaker 1: himself into bits. I'm not that person. Maybe I was
- 39:53Speaker 1: that person I played Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
- 39:55Speaker 1: when Ronald Reagan died. I would not do that today.
- 39:59Speaker 1: I'm sixty three. I've learned. Uh, And no, I don't
- 40:03Speaker 1: you know, I don't care who they're reporting for News
- 40:05Speaker 1: Nation you know, which is like the lowest form of
- 40:07Speaker 1: news on the planet. Uh, news Nation but or Newsmax
- 40:12Speaker 1: or I forget no, it's it's like it's even more
- 40:17Speaker 1: to the right of Fox News. I think it's called
- 40:19Speaker 1: news Max maybe maybe. Yeah. So anyway, I don't care
- 40:24Speaker 1: if they're with them. They do not deserve to be
- 40:26Speaker 1: shot out of the sky, particularly if they had warning
- 40:28Speaker 1: that this was going to happen. You know that, that's
- 40:31Speaker 1: just ridiculous, all right, So we we Last week we
- 40:34Speaker 1: reported that in China that the Apple Store was going
- 40:37Speaker 1: to take down the gay dating apps at the request
- 40:41Speaker 1: of the government. But I guess there's a Chinese gay
- 40:44Speaker 1: dating app which I was not aware of. It's called
- 40:49Speaker 1: Blued b l u E D. I don't know why
- 40:52Speaker 1: they would name a gay dating app blued, but they did.
- 40:56Speaker 3: Uh.
- 40:56Speaker 1: But Chinese gay dating app Blued is halting newser Register,
- 41:00Speaker 1: it said Sunday, following media reports that underage users caught
- 41:04Speaker 1: HIV after going on dates set up via the largest
- 41:08Speaker 1: networking app for gay people in the world. So not
- 41:11Speaker 1: only do they run an app, but they run the
- 41:13Speaker 1: largest one in the world, which I don't get. I mean,
- 41:19Speaker 1: if they tell Apple we got to take, you know
- 41:21Speaker 1: what I mean, it's incongruous. It's like maybe they just
- 41:24Speaker 1: wanted everyone to use blue. Maybe that's why, because they
- 41:27Speaker 1: control it, and like Grinder and such, they don't control,
- 41:30Speaker 1: but they control this one. China has a vibrant right
- 41:34Speaker 1: go ahead.
- 41:36Speaker 2: Also try running a bureaucracy managing over a billion people.
- 41:41Speaker 1: Yeah, China has a vibrant gay scene, though activists say
- 41:46Speaker 1: conservative attitudes among groups in society have prompted occasional government clampdowns.
- 41:51Speaker 1: I did not know they had a vibrant gay scene there.
- 41:53Speaker 1: I have this weird view of China, and yet every
- 41:56Speaker 1: time I see people in China, it's like state of
- 41:58Speaker 1: the art, affordable, beautiful, gorgeous country, and yet I think
- 42:01Speaker 1: of it as some dark, oppressive, horrible regime. But I
- 42:04Speaker 1: guess it's really not.
- 42:05Speaker 2: Every country has mixed It's true.
- 42:07Speaker 1: On Saturday, citing academic research, financial magazine Kaiksin said juveniles
- 42:13Speaker 1: were heavily involved in the gay dating app, where some
- 42:16Speaker 1: teenagers had even hosted live streams. In addition to that,
- 42:19Speaker 1: many gay teenagers had unprotected sex through the app and
- 42:23Speaker 1: contracted HIV. Now I don't know what the HIV situation
- 42:28Speaker 1: is in China. I'd like to research this because I
- 42:31Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if the gay community there
- 42:36Speaker 1: is as informed about AIDS as maybe here or other
- 42:40Speaker 1: countries because of government news restrictions and media restrictions on reporting.
- 42:46Speaker 1: I doubt they have TV commercials for prep therapy that
- 42:49Speaker 1: sort of stuff like we do here. So I don't know,
- 42:54Speaker 1: because to me, in twenty twenty six only one two
- 42:58Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen days away from twenty thirty, by the way,
- 43:02Speaker 1: but in twenty twenty six, AIDS did how do I
- 43:07Speaker 1: say this without sounding like I did ten years ago?
- 43:09Speaker 1: And I said, if you get AIDS who deserve it.
- 43:12Speaker 1: And what I meant was, there's so much information out
- 43:14Speaker 1: there about AIDS that you shouldn't get it now because
- 43:18Speaker 1: you know there's so much information. Uh, but maybe there's
- 43:21Speaker 1: not that amount of information in China.
- 43:24Speaker 2: Yes, so you and AIDS notes one point four million
- 43:28Speaker 2: people in China lived with AIDS, twenty three point percent
- 43:31Speaker 2: of whom are women. Therefore you have a three to
- 43:34Speaker 2: one racial approximately of men to women AIDS.
- 43:38Speaker 1: But that's so few out of a billion people.
- 43:41Speaker 2: One point four million, zero point one percent, zero point
- 43:44Speaker 2: one percent.
- 43:45Speaker 1: I mean, we have a lot more than that here
- 43:49Speaker 1: in terms of percentages that we don't you know, so.
- 43:52Speaker 2: One point four million that are approximately is one point
- 43:59Speaker 2: zero five million men and three hundred two thousand women approximately.
- 44:04Speaker 1: I would have thought it was much more. Do you
- 44:05Speaker 1: think that's underreported?
- 44:07Speaker 2: Because it's China, there could be a sensibility of not
- 44:16Speaker 2: admitting health issues because there is a stigma to admitting
- 44:20Speaker 2: any mental mental health issues in that society. But Derek
- 44:27Speaker 2: could be.
- 44:28Speaker 1: Progress So Blued b o U ed, I hope I'm
- 44:31Speaker 1: saying that correctly. Or blue Head or blued Blued has
- 44:35Speaker 1: forty million registered users and is backed by state run
- 44:41Speaker 1: media Beijing News. It is the brainchild of former policeman
- 44:45Speaker 1: who quit his job to play Cupid to millions of
- 44:47Speaker 1: gay men in China. Grinder, a Los Angeles space gay
- 44:51Speaker 1: dating app, well known globally, is also owned by a
- 44:54Speaker 1: Chinese company. Did I know that no Grinder is Chinese?
- 45:04Speaker 2: Not necessarily Chinese in terms of construction, but owned by.
- 45:09Speaker 1: Let me? Is Grinder owned by China? Oh? No Grinder
- 45:16Speaker 1: is not owned by a China based company anymore. While
- 45:20Speaker 1: the Chinese gaming firm Beijing Kunlun Tech owned the app
- 45:25Speaker 1: from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty. They were forced to
- 45:28Speaker 1: sell due to US national security and data privacy concerns.
- 45:33Speaker 1: I remember they were told they couldn't do business in
- 45:36Speaker 1: the US if they maintained being owned by China, and
- 45:39Speaker 1: so they sold it to an American company. Yeah, san
- 45:45Speaker 1: Vincente Acquisitions, a US based investment group, bought Grinder for
- 45:50Speaker 1: six hundred and eight million in June of twenty twenty,
- 45:53Speaker 1: and then it went public on the New York Stock
- 45:57Speaker 1: Exchange under the ticker grind gr and d grin. But yeah, okay,
- 46:02Speaker 1: so okay, I was a little, I was a little
- 46:05Speaker 1: I was freaked out there for a moment. Well, but
- 46:08Speaker 1: it was China. So anyway, we have reported. Now I
- 46:13Speaker 1: want to show you something Scott Jacobson, because I find
- 46:18Speaker 1: this really really interesting about our show here, our little
- 46:21Speaker 1: This Gay Week, because I can tell which episodes are
- 46:27Speaker 1: being downloaded where and when, and for the last six weeks,
- 46:34Speaker 1: six weeks, we have been in the top twenty five
- 46:38Speaker 1: podcast my podcast has in Sierra Leone in I found
- 46:48Speaker 1: out that that weekly, for the last weeks that we
- 46:52Speaker 1: have been there, that the most downloaded episode is This
- 46:57Speaker 1: Gay Week. It has almost double the downloads of my
- 47:01Speaker 1: normal episodes in Sierra Leone, so I asked, I asked
- 47:09Speaker 1: chat GPT today about Sierra Leone. They have one protection
- 47:13Speaker 1: for gays one and that's employment discrimination period. Otherwise it's illegal.
- 47:20Speaker 1: But what's very interesting is, and we've talked about this before,
- 47:25Speaker 1: sex between men is illegal. Lesbian sex is not. It's
- 47:31Speaker 1: not even in the law. And that goes back to
- 47:34Speaker 1: the fact that women were considered property or women had
- 47:38Speaker 1: no rights, and that's why there's no law against women
- 47:41Speaker 1: having sex. It's just the men. But in this country
- 47:46Speaker 1: that only has one gay protection, this Gay Week, this
- 47:50Speaker 1: weekly show is double the listeners of my regular podcast
- 47:54Speaker 1: in that country. I find that so interesting. As we
- 47:58Speaker 1: talk about the fact that in Senegal, seventy one men
- 48:01Speaker 1: have been arrested for having gay sex and an under crackdown.
- 48:05Speaker 1: Good lord, someone drop the tray, Honey, they dropped the tray.
- 48:12Speaker 1: So Senegal is cracking down. They have arrested seventy people
- 48:17Speaker 1: and that's just in the last two months. According to
- 48:21Speaker 1: African News, some local celebrities have also been arrested on
- 48:24Speaker 1: suspicion of homosexual acts and in some cases suspicion of
- 48:29Speaker 1: deliberately transmitting HIV. The new legislation was passed in March,
- 48:34Speaker 1: as we covered here, were signed into law, and now
- 48:37Speaker 1: there have been seventy one arrest all men, no women.
- 48:42Speaker 1: And we mentioned before that sometimes when they get arrested,
- 48:46Speaker 1: they get in front of the court and the court's like, eh, eh,
- 48:51Speaker 1: they can't do that anymore. So they all have received sentences,
- 48:56Speaker 1: which is alarming. So I don't know, but it seems
- 49:01Speaker 1: to me like they're yearning for our voice there because
- 49:04Speaker 1: in the neighboring country, we're we're in the top twenty.
- 49:09Speaker 1: So it looks like they're, you know, they're trying to
- 49:13Speaker 1: hear about the gays. Yeah, I'm reading more of this story.
- 49:19Speaker 1: It's it's it's pretty sad the conditions that they're being
- 49:23Speaker 1: kept in. Uh, the average sentence is eleven.
- 49:27Speaker 2: Months, so I mean that's significant.
- 49:30Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not paradise in a Senegalese prison, that's for sure.
- 49:34Speaker 1: All Right, we have one more segment to go with Scott.
- 49:36Speaker 1: We'll we will be back. Well we're not going to
- 49:38Speaker 1: a break yet, but in two minutes we're going to
- 49:40Speaker 1: a break and then we'll be back for our final
- 49:43Speaker 1: segment with Scott on This Gay Week where we will
- 49:46Speaker 1: he's passed again, We'll we'll get him back. He keeps
- 49:50Speaker 1: popping in and out, but that's okay. He's he's in
- 49:53Speaker 1: a very precarious place, so we'll we'll get him back,
- 49:56Speaker 1: all right. I do find that interesting though, y'all that
- 49:59Speaker 1: in that in Sierra Leone and Hello Sierra Leone. The
- 50:04Speaker 1: podcast is maintaining in the top twenty five every day Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
- 50:10Speaker 1: But our Thursday show of This Gay Week gets double
- 50:14Speaker 1: the downloads that the other shows get, which proves that
- 50:20Speaker 1: they're yearning, you know, for information that they they're yearning
- 50:26Speaker 1: for connection and they found it in me. And hey,
- 50:29Speaker 1: if you're gay and you're in Sierra Leone, I'm I'm
- 50:34Speaker 1: so glad you found us. So where are you going? Girl?
- 50:37Speaker 1: You are outside? That is nighttime in Ukraine.
- 50:41Speaker 2: Wait wait, I will show you where miss Lumer missus Oh,
- 50:47Speaker 2: I know.
- 50:47Speaker 1: No one married her.
- 50:50Speaker 2: So how about.
- 50:53Speaker 1: We're on the streets of Ukraine. This is so like
- 50:56Speaker 1: interesting to me.
- 50:57Speaker 2: They were very hospitable and lovely to me. Yeah.
- 51:04Speaker 1: Wow, look at you out there on the streets of Ukraine. Well,
- 51:07Speaker 1: I'm nervous my heart is actually beatium fast. Wow, because
- 51:14Speaker 1: the building could fall on you or something. I mean,
- 51:16Speaker 1: you know there were something.
- 51:18Speaker 2: Not it's not that bad. Yeah, yeah, it's not like
- 51:25Speaker 2: it's not you know.
- 51:26Speaker 1: It's not like the country is getting bombed daily or anything.
- 51:31Speaker 2: We I haven't had any alarms to say that. I recall.
- 51:34Speaker 1: So I did Russia run? Is Russia like us? Are
- 51:36Speaker 1: they running out of munitions just like we did?
- 51:40Speaker 3: No?
- 51:40Speaker 2: They several other factories have over capacity produced several of
- 51:48Speaker 2: their ballistic missiles, and those are the things that we
- 51:51Speaker 2: need patriot systems to counter. So we're gonna get a
- 51:54Speaker 2: lot more coming our way. And if they want to
- 51:58Speaker 2: land somewhere, they're going to land. But there their incidents,
- 52:01Speaker 2: they're radius of error for landing can be five to
- 52:05Speaker 2: seven meters. If they're bad, they can be thirty minus.
- 52:08Speaker 1: The architecture. The architecture on the buildings is so beautiful.
- 52:12Speaker 1: There's I mean, there's so much you know, concrete work
- 52:16Speaker 1: and molding and all of that. It's you know, they're
- 52:20Speaker 1: pretty buildings.
- 52:22Speaker 2: So this is the metro.
- 52:23Speaker 3: It is.
- 52:25Speaker 2: And it goes it goes down. So you go into
- 52:28Speaker 2: that glitter. If you're on the big ones, with the
- 52:31Speaker 2: par key in that city. They can go down for
- 52:33Speaker 2: two and a half minutes.
- 52:34Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's like hundreds of feet down.
- 52:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 52:40Speaker 1: I will be right back on the Ukraine on the
- 52:43Speaker 1: break of grain. Oh and I'm nervous. I am very nervous.
- 52:46Speaker 1: We'll be right back for our final stay.
- 53:02Speaker 4: Now. Remember the word is f u n K funk. Honey,
- 53:07Speaker 4: do you want to funk? Hey, it's Correll, go stream.
- 53:27Speaker 4: Do you want to funk?
- 53:28Speaker 1: My tribute to Sylvester everywhere you get your music, Correll?
- 53:31Speaker 1: Do you want to funk?
- 53:33Speaker 3: Now?
- 53:34Speaker 2: It's show.
- 53:38Speaker 1: All right, we are back. Scott is out there on
- 53:40Speaker 1: the streets of Ukraine. Child, he's in Kiev. I think
- 53:44Speaker 1: he's in Keev. Yeah, he's in Keeve. That's where the
- 53:46Speaker 1: synagogue is. He ah, So he is in Kiev and
- 53:49Speaker 1: he's walking on the streets. It's so weird though. We're
- 53:52Speaker 1: seeing business. I'm seeing businesses behind you and stuff. And again,
- 53:56Speaker 1: I don't know what I expected Kiev to look like,
- 53:58Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I guess, yeah, I guess I
- 54:03Speaker 1: didn't expect it to look quite so modern.
- 54:06Speaker 2: You know, to I mean, like the Russians were in
- 54:08Speaker 2: the city, are basically in the city at the start
- 54:11Speaker 2: of the full scale invasion, that initial summer hundred thousand invasion. Course,
- 54:16Speaker 2: most of them are injured.
- 54:19Speaker 1: It's just amazing to me because you know, I mean,
- 54:21Speaker 1: I've never been What would I be doing in the Ukraine,
- 54:24Speaker 1: but you know, I've just never been. I wanted to
- 54:27Speaker 1: touch on a story. You know, we reported on a
- 54:30Speaker 1: story today about gay group persevering through threats where they
- 54:36Speaker 1: just said, you know what, We're gonna keep going. My
- 54:40Speaker 1: former hometown of Long Beach, California, they had a gay
- 54:43Speaker 1: float at a place called Horny Corner, which I know
- 54:47Speaker 1: very well, and it's called that no now, okay, So
- 54:51Speaker 1: Horny Corner is in Belmont Shore and there's a waterway
- 54:56Speaker 1: where boats come in and out of the ocean, you know,
- 54:59Speaker 1: and that people live there with their boat slips and everything,
- 55:02Speaker 1: and the street curves and right where it curves, there's
- 55:05Speaker 1: a beach right there, and it's called Horny Corner because
- 55:10Speaker 1: the straight people, not gay people. It's not a gay beach.
- 55:13Speaker 1: Straight people lay out there in almost nothing like string
- 55:18Speaker 1: bikinis and things and hit on each other and you know,
- 55:23Speaker 1: and so they had a gay float there at Horny Corner.
- 55:25Speaker 1: And they received a bomb threat, a credible one, and
- 55:28Speaker 1: the police asked them to stop. The police said, please
- 55:32Speaker 1: don't hold your event, you know where, this is real.
- 55:35Speaker 1: We're worried. And the organizers said, no, you know what,
- 55:38Speaker 1: We're not going to let them do this to us.
- 55:41Speaker 1: And they went ahead and held the event anyway without incident,
- 55:45Speaker 1: and the police actually stayed and increased their presence and
- 55:49Speaker 1: they arrested the guy who made the bomb threat. So
- 55:53Speaker 1: that just it's very cool that in the face of
- 55:56Speaker 1: adversity that you don't back down sometimes. All right, he
- 56:00Speaker 1: froze on the streets of Ukraine. I'm only hoping it's
- 56:02Speaker 1: because it's just a Wi Fi signal and not you know,
- 56:06Speaker 1: some other horrible thing that's happened. But what a cute
- 56:10Speaker 1: picture that he froze on. Look, look there we go,
- 56:12Speaker 1: see donny, look good out there on the streets of Ukraine.
- 56:16Speaker 1: I think the burger place closed, probably because you know,
- 56:19Speaker 1: it's like two in the morning there or something. I
- 56:21Speaker 1: don't know how many hours they are ahead, but it's
- 56:24Speaker 1: it's ahead, all right. If he comes back to say goodbye,
- 56:27Speaker 1: we will say goodbye to him. Otherwise, I can't believe
- 56:29Speaker 1: he made it through all the segments. So that has
- 56:33Speaker 1: been this gay news this week. We actually had some
- 56:36Speaker 1: good stories this week. That's that's good, you know, not
- 56:40Speaker 1: all doom and gloom, and that he had sent one
- 56:44Speaker 1: that we didn't get to that I could get to
- 56:46Speaker 1: here while waiting for him to come back. About John Diomilio,
- 56:50Speaker 1: he has a memoir out and we should get him
- 56:52Speaker 1: on the show. The recent controversy at the Stonewall Uprising
- 56:57Speaker 1: Monument with the National Park Service deleting any mentioned of
- 57:00Speaker 1: LGBTQ people, which is not good and removing the Rainbow
- 57:04Speaker 1: Pride flag from the monument's federal flagpole resulted in protest
- 57:08Speaker 1: and a federal lawsuit. The incident is recalled because although
- 57:11Speaker 1: this movement to restrict accurate information about queer history has
- 57:14Speaker 1: caused for concern, it's nothing new. According to the new
- 57:17Speaker 1: autobiography Making Gay History, Memoir of a Scholar Activist by
- 57:22Speaker 1: John D. Emilio, Emeritus Professor of History and of Gender
- 57:26Speaker 1: at Women's Studies at the University of Illinois, Chicago, he notes,
- 57:30Speaker 1: if we jump back to the late nineteen sixties, there
- 57:33Speaker 1: would be no LGBTQ history to ban from classrooms and
- 57:37Speaker 1: virtually no LGBTQ positive books to remove from our libraries.
- 57:41Speaker 1: That is a sobering statement that, as horrible as it
- 57:46Speaker 1: is in today's world, well, look, i'm digitizing. Isn't that
- 57:50Speaker 1: something as horrible as it is in today's world to
- 57:56Speaker 1: hear about them removing books and re moving you know,
- 58:01Speaker 1: gay history and trying to rewrite gay history. The fact
- 58:05Speaker 1: is that if this was just twenty or thirty years ago,
- 58:09Speaker 1: there wouldn't have been any gay history to remove, or
- 58:13Speaker 1: there wouldn't have been any plaques to change or there be,
- 58:16Speaker 1: you know, so we have come so far in just
- 58:20Speaker 1: a short amount of time. Now it's a shame we're
- 58:22Speaker 1: going back, but we have come a long way. There
- 58:27Speaker 1: were no books when I was in school in the
- 58:29Speaker 1: sixties seventies and then I graduated in nineteen eighty. There
- 58:33Speaker 1: were no books about gay people. There weren't any stories,
- 58:38Speaker 1: There weren't any you know, they didn't teach about Harvey Milk.
- 58:40Speaker 1: Well he was happening at the time, but you know,
- 58:43Speaker 1: they certainly didn't cover it in our class and our
- 58:45Speaker 1: social studies class or anything like that. So it's interesting
- 58:49Speaker 1: from that perspective that while it's terrible that we're moving backwards.
- 58:54Speaker 1: At least, there's still been some progress. There are still
- 58:57Speaker 1: books out there, you know, to teach. There's still important
- 59:01Speaker 1: work being done and being acknowledged. And in the sixties
- 59:05Speaker 1: and seventies and eighties it wasn't even acknowledged. You just
- 59:07Speaker 1: didn't hear about it. And so that's really quite interesting
- 59:12Speaker 1: and it's a great point. How queer history moved from
- 59:15Speaker 1: being virtually nonexistent to an exciting study subject with a
- 59:19Speaker 1: huge number of books to cover is the subject of
- 59:22Speaker 1: his book. Using himself as evidence of its progress, he
- 59:26Speaker 1: shows how history has become a resource for the gay
- 59:29Speaker 1: movement as it has fought against depression and sought equality.
- 59:33Speaker 1: His career reveals how he was one of the prime
- 59:36Speaker 1: movers in establishing queer history as an academic principle. Yeah,
- 59:40Speaker 1: that's another thing. There are queer study courses. There are
- 59:44Speaker 1: you know, we did have it in our human sexuality
- 59:47Speaker 1: class in college. We did. There was gay information there,
- 59:51Speaker 1: but that was nineteen eighty one, eighty two, But so
- 59:55Speaker 1: that you know, but that was just in the human
- 59:56Speaker 1: sexuality class. But he's right, academically, now there are courses
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: of gay history. The importance of LGBTQ arts, the important
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: of you know, gay politicians, all of that. So as
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: backwards as we have gone, we still have some hope.
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: There are still ways to learn about LGBTQ history. There's
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: still ways to read about it. The books are still
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: in many public libraries still have them. Certainly bookstores Barnes
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: and Nobles still exist. I just went to one. It
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: was great fun. And you can go into a bookstore
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: and go to their LGBTQ section. They have not had
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: them pulled off the shelves. They can still sell them.
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: So the fact that those are there, because when I
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: went to the libraries and the bookstores, you know, in
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: the seventies and sixties and early eighties, they didn't have
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: a gay section of books. Well the porn section, that
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: was it. They didn't have queer studies and gay studies.
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: And nowadays we do, and that is process. So I'll
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: leave it with that with a positive note about that.
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