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Metropolitan Division Rankings for the 2025-2026 NHL Season · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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  Very, very fun episode. We are going to be doing our
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  rankings for the Metropolitan Division.
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  Pretty, I would say pretty standard.
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  Not the most spicy of divisions still, definitely there will be
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  some. Some back and forth and some.
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  This is why you suck at life. Yeah, I think.
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  I think this division is the easiest one in terms of like,
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  you know which teams are at the bottom, you know which team are
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  gonna be at the top, you know teams are gonna be in the
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  middle. It's just about the order.
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  Exactly, Yeah, yeah. I mean there's a clear bottom
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  4IN top four and then it's just messing around with the exact.
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  Order would say bottom three, top four and then one of the.
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  I don't know. We didn't all agree on the
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  look at you. Josh had a longer loaded.
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  I was lost. I wasn't.
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  Gonna say anything and then they looked at me and I was like.
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  You know, it just, it just happened.
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  And yeah, I guess we can. We can begin.
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  fans who are also fan of that. Nice.
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  But I was gonna say like this is this is a special moment.
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  Like this is the first time we're recording all in person
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  since like. Feels so good.
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  Exactly. But Josh moved away a few months
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  ago, so we've been doing virtual, but now all in person
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  once again for for this week and next week potentially.
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  Jacked up right now. You're ready to go.
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  I'm really hyper. Also, we found our draft order
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  last night episode to come. Yeah, we're gonna talk about.
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  It until recording so I've got a lot of pent up stuff going on,
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  but let's do Metro for now and focus on that after.
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  So let's start with some honorable mentions teams that
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  didn't make the top 8. Hartford Whalers, yeah.
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  My brain went to cities that don't have an NHL team.
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  Did Lana Trashers? Yeah.
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  But yeah, OK. Should we do number?
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  Eight. Yeah, alright, alright,
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  everybody #8. At #8 We've got the Pittsburgh
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  Penguins. Last year they finished 7th.
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  Me and Kevin Josh speaking both put them at 8:00 this year and
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  Jake put them at 7. Notable players you may have
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  heard of Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Ricard Raquel, Brian
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  Rust, Eric Carlson, and Chris Letang.
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  Not notable players. Tristan Jones.
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  You didn't mention Tristan Jarry on this.
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  List Spike being awful last year.
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  Last year, their power play ranked number six in the NHL.
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  Shocking. I honestly I love including the
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  power play ranking on these because it's so many times.
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  Not so many times but sometimes they jump out at you.
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  Like wow such a bad team did so on power play.
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  So interesting to look out for fantasy.
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  Yeah, I mean, OK, listen, elephant in the room, Crosby.
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  Is he going to be a have? They like the more the time has
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  passed throughout the offseason, the more likely I am to believe
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  that he's going to get traded or that he wants to leave.
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  I think he's come to terms. With it, my thing was like
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  creeping up and up and up. And then I saw a post recently
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  of him giving him being asked about it.
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  And like how many times I have to tell you guys I just wanna
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  stay here and retire a thing. OK, I didn't see.
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  That, but that wasn't the exact words I'm paraphrasing.
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  But yeah, that definitely brought me down.
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  I was up to 20% likelihood and now I'm back down to like A5.
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  Percent. So I did see, like they asked
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  him the question of what do you think about all these rumors
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  that people are talking about, like how you're going to go to
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  like the hives or whatever. And he's just like, listen, you
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  can't like stop the the rumors from happening or whatever.
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  But he's just like focused on this year and, and doing his
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  best. But like, he has nobody to play
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  with. Like it's him.
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  It's him, Malkin Letang. And it's the like the what is it
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  the final goodbye or the last dance?
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  The last dance. Yeah.
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  How did I forget that? But anyways, like this lined up,
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  if you look up and down the bottom 9, I'm calling in.
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  The bottom line is horrible. Yeah, I I wonder what Rutger
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  Mccords. Almost have bought him 11.
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  Realistically, Rick Raquel's gone on the deadline.
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  Rush potentially gone the deadline?
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  Will be injured. Yeah, he he will be on
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  somebody's IR. Yeah.
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  And there's not really much talent behind them.
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  Yeah. Well, Carl Singer treated
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  probably, I mean like, I don't know what they're.
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  Gonna still have a huge contract.
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  Yeah, I don't think unless they retain a bunch, I don't think
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  he's getting traded because I don't think anyone will take
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  him. But it'll be interesting with
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  Tang had a hole in his heart at the end of last year, if you
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  remember that. Yeah, I remember.
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  Yeah, I mean, I think he's healthy to start the year, but
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  that's never a good sign. Like literal enjoy.
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  I enjoy my heart being shot. Through the heart and you're to
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  blame. Person.
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  Yeah, so I think we all agree they're gonna be a bottom
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  dweller. Jackie had them at 7 instead of
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  8. But again, when you're getting
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  to like these, you know. Yeah, listen, I would be shocked
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  if there's 7th like Crosby obviously going to try to win,
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  like they're not gonna. Actively 7th and 8th could be
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  like 3 points. Regardless, they're gonna be
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  bottomed here. It's not gonna be that fun to be
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  a Penguins fan. You're watching all your buddies
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  get off the retirement homes. I think most Penguins fans want
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  Crosby to get treated like they want him to go win the Cup
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  somewhere. I would think maybe most is
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  generous, but I think one of the Penguins, it would be like,
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  listen, we we would not feel bad if Crosby left and went to win a
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  champion it already. Got like 3 first rounders and in
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  return. You think three first.
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  Time I'm exaggerating, but they'll get a hall in.
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  Return. They probably get like 2 picks
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  in a prospect. Or something like that.
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  It'll be better than it'll be better for the team.
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  But then if you just stays and retires there, but I mean it's
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  Crosby, you're happy if he stays and retires there for the whole
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  story and him being one of the goats of all time and.
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  It's just like it didn't take away from Gretzky's legacy,
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  although he kind of got traded on his honeymoon and wasn't part
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  of the same thing, you know? Like he's still regarded as an
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  Edmonton Oiler even though he went to both the Kings and then
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  the Rangers. So I feel like if Crosby leaves,
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  it doesn't. It's like Patrick Kane, too.
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  Like Patrick Kane is a Chicago Blackhawk for life.
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  But. Like, I kind of like it that
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  hockey, they're so loyal that there's something to it, whereas
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  football and basketball, it's just like, Nah, man, give me.
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  That basketball is really crazy, but football I would say is in
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  the middle one of like people, some people still.
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  Care, Brady, you know what I mean?
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  Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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  Probably the best example is Tom Brady.
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  But Tom really had a competitive team until the end, right?
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  And then he retired, and then he came back.
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  No, yeah. But I'm saying like having
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  traded, been traded to the Bucks, yeah, doesn't really take
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  away from. What you know if you wanna check
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  with the? Box, Actually, yeah, they were.
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  Like cemented is. Like ignores, like any
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  questions, like is he a product of the team, the coach or
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  whatever? It's gonna go dip over there and
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  then do it again. Yeah, so if you're listening, we
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  think you should spice it. Up and go to the.
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  Hub, you come to the haves, you win the cup with us first time
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  since 93. Bring it back home, whatever.
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  Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
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  The NHL script writers are setting this up.
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  I guess so. One other thing I'll mention is
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  that I think they're power plays only going to regress.
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  Yeah, I'm shocked that it was actually this high.
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  I was shocked when their goaltending is still bad.
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  I I I'm truly. I'm willing to say terrible,
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  yeah. She loves gonna be the starter
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  by the end of the year. Yeah, but he's not gonna be able
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  to save this team, No, for she could be in the future.
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  He could be a good goalie. We saw him win the Calder Cup
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  and all that, but not. This year exactly.
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  So I don't really even disagree with your rankings today.
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  It's just that this next team I think is slightly worse.
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  But I think we do need to touch on Crosby, I think just for
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  fantasy value. Like what you?
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  OK, face off win league is the GOAT.
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  There's no better face off winner than him.
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  Yeah, Is like there isn't, right?
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  He wins like 13. No, The next close I can think
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  of is like Robert Thomas. Yeah.
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  Sure. I mean Barkov.
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  Barkov he sure. Loves will hit double digits,
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  but he's the consistently the top one.
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  He's gonna get you point per game.
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  I wouldn't expect much more than a point per game, but I want 90
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  points either. Yeah, him.
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  Something like 8590, something like that.
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  I'll get you the PowerPoints. Look, even if they regress from
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  six in the NHL to 20th or 15th, that's the league average power
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  play. He's going to touch every single
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  goal on that power play. I'm looking at early second
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  round. In in in our league
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  specifically, he'll be like a top 15 to 16 pick it feels.
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  Like but even if your league doesn't count face off, yes that
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  definitely drops him a bit. Yes, shots, yes, PowerPoint
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  production. He has points like he's gonna
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  be. I think he's firmly second round
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  pick, I think. Yeah, it just depends on where
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  in the second round. Yeah, that's where he should be.
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  Going I think we could agree if he does get traded, it's just
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  good for his value like I'm the. Only good for his value.
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  The only thing is that Pittsburgh has an unreal playoff
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  schedule. They have five games in the
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  Finals, which is just unheard of.
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  Yeah, so that would suck in that sense.
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  But if you go to another team with a good playoff schedule,
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  obviously ignoring that in terms of actual team, it's got to be
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  good because you can be surrounded by better players.
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  He's gonna go on Power Play 1. And like, the thing for him is
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  1, He's one of the best players ever.
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  And two, every time he's playing in an international tournament,
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  like the team funnels through him.
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  Yeah, this is not the type of guy that he's an exception to
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  the rule of go somewhere at the deadline and it doesn't.
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  Work obviously isn't the destination frame, but could he
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  outdo a rod curse if he got traded to Carolina?
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  Yes, cancelled but. That's true.
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  Cancel did. Yeah.
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  So former Penguins there. That's that's who can outdo rods
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  hamper on fantasy value. Exactly.
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  We'll move on to the next team, but I just, I also think like
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  Raquel and Russ, these guys will provide good value like later in
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  your leagues like I. Think he's being overrated, I
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  think. I think he had a really good
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  season last year. I think he's gonna be good.
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  I just think his ADP is a bit high.
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  Jose DP off top of my head but I feel like if it's double digit
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  rounds like the type of guy. Double digits I'm taking.
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  The guy that's like, you know, at the end of your bench or you
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  know, you can fill in. Like we play in deep leagues, so
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  our bench is super small. We're starting almost everybody
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  on our team. But they gotta rounds out your
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  roster of like you can slot in anywhere in your lineup.
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  I think he's going in like 12 team leagues.
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  He's going like round 10. That's pretty good I guess, but.
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  Is there anyone who you want as a late round dart throw?
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  On the Penguins. I can see, I can see Tommy Novak
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  having like some flashes of value.
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  I don't know what to expect from like Tomasino.
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  Honestly like this may be crazy but I could see Letang possibly
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  Jenga being some late round value.
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  He's coming up the. Entry that's it.
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  He gonna be PB one and he does decent back.
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  It's like nothing to write home about, but he'll give you like a
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  21.51.5 in shots blocks. Do you remember how hot pot?
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  Multiple season last year like 2 months and then he completely
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  dropped off and we were completely validated in our
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  opinion and it's possible he'll go through stretches but I'm so
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  not interested in. Having are you drafting him like
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  maybe at ADP and hoping that you get the ability to sell them
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  high again in the beginning of. The season I'm really I'm not
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  drafting him unless he's like 4 rounds lower than I think he
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  should be going there. Some guys just not.
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  Interested. I think.
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  Yeah, you really think that he can?
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  Do it? No.
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  But I think, I don't think any of these guys really do it.
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  I just think he has the highest upside.
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  He was supposed to be a stud and then when Winnipeg traded him, I
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  remember I was. Like a big deal.
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  I just think that it's too early, like maybe in a year or
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  two. For I do think that there are
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  fourth line though could have like banger implications like
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  you know those guys you have to pick up just for hits or Pimms
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  at the end of the week or kind of flip a cat like pick them up
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  Brezo is one of those guys who was one of those guys like yeah
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  they have like an enforcer 4th line so for.
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  Sure, let's move on to the next. Yep, or 7.
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  At #7 we've got the New York Islanders.
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  Last year they finished 6th. Kevin and Josh have them ranked
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  at 7 and Jackie has them ranked at 8.
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  Some notable players. Matt Single, T Barzel, Beau.
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  That's his full name. Horvat, Elias Sorokin.
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  No, what do we have as a as the bold nickname?
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  Last year we had a bonic name. He did anyways.
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  Alright. We'll figure it out.
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  We'll go through the tapes. We've got Ilya Sorokin, Tony
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  D'Angelo, Anders Lee, Jonathan Drua, Alexander Romanov, and
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  their power play ranked at 31st. Worse.
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  I won't spoil it, yeah. Yeah, Shafer's not in that
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  notable. I don't see him having an impact
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  this year, but I should have included him.
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  You're right, it's notable enough that he should be
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  mentioned, but I don't see him having an impact this year.
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  The only way the shipper has packed is if he's PP one.
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  I think that's the only way he has any.
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  Relation with the Tony D'Angelo type of player where if he's not
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  running your power play why is he on your team?
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  And they even got rid of Dobson and kept D'Angelo, so I don't
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  see D'Angelo losing power. Play 1.
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  So my biggest question, you know, fantasy implications.
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  Obviously this team won the lottery last year.
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  Shockingly huge water chances of winning.
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  It was like less than 10% or. Something because they were I
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  think 11th to last, yes. And they jumped, I think the
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  maximum. Amount of spring while they just
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  got blessed and. This is the second time in the
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  past couple of years that in New York team has jumped up in a
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  lottery for the first overall. Honestly, I'm a lot less.
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  But they're they're top 6 is is not super, not super fun.
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  Main asset on this team, I guess is between Horvat and Barzal.
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  I like Horvat more personally, because I think he's just, you
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  know, he's the kind of like pillar of that team is reliable.
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  Barzal's been on and off. For faceoff wins one of.
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  Those double you guys he is and I think he's low key, really
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  good at scoring goals too. Obviously the ones you don't
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  have a lot of opportunity to do that, but I think he's a good
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  player his. Warband Barzel, obviously you
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  gotta mention Sorokin. Yeah, that's classic situation
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  of great goalie on a bad team. I had spoken last year, he was
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  really good at the end of the season where you can see like
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  this quality time. You're trying to trade him.
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  There was a long time where he was not good, right?
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  And it's just because the team in front of him is bad, like
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  they let in high danger chances and you can only do so much when
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  you're getting wins. So you guys think that the
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  acquisition of Druan does anything for their offence or
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  power? Play Well, I was gonna say I'm
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  curious about Join and Shabana. I'm really interested in
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  because. You forgot to include him as.
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  Well, you know, apparently he was good in the KHL.
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  He's 24. Like he's coming to the NHL.
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  Like we've seen these guys like, you know, being powerful and not
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  being impactful. So yeah, I'm curious to see what
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  we're doing. On PowerPoint I.
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  Think he's gonna get line 1P1 and that's gonna be very.
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  Interesting. It's small though, at 157.
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  OK, that's a small player. That's Michelle.
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  That he won't help you when you're banger category that's.
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  Probably a big favor for bangers leagues, but.
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  Look, take him in the last round or something and see if he is
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  that the Islanders are such a. Julia I feel like it's gonna
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  join with no McKinnon I feel like it's chalked.
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  Yeah, honestly drawn with McKinnon.
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  I wasn't that interested in the fact that he's going to the
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  Islanders. I have 0 interest.
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  I will say the guy on this list most likely to end up on my team
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  is Alexander Romanov. And I mean, everybody wants it
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  for your Major League. He was a stud loss.
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  Yeah, I picked him up after Jake.
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  He dropped him last year and he was great.
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  He was really just one of those guys you can get laid in the in
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  the draft and you know, provide 2 plus shots and hit blocks,
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  sorry, hits and blocks. So.
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  So yeah, he's the most likely to end up on my team.
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  Think of Islanders players. Are you?
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  I just think they're bad. Like that's, I think that's why
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  I have Pittsburgh ahead of them. They don't have a start.
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  That's why I didn't mind them getting the 1st overall pick.
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  I'd like for them to become an exciting team.
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  It just sucks having a team that I have no desire to watch a game
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  with the Islanders for the past couple of years.
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  I don't know how you guys feel about that, but other than
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  watching. Something they don't score goals
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  when they suck. Yeah, what are we watching?
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  It's like watching the halves from like a couple years ago,
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  except they don't have, I mean, they have Sorokin, but it's
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  still not the same as watching Price, you know, bail us out.
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  Yeah, what about Emil Heineman, Line 4 winger?
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  Ohe, huge acquisition. I actually do like kind.
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  Of a lot of real life I. Think of a fantasy, obviously.
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  Not, I mean, there's no reason to believe and also I agree
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  fade, but there's no reason to believe.
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  He can't be alone. One within the month, that's
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  all. The team could be lined, yeah,
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  that's how they don't have any. Like Kevin said, the only lock
• 16:46
  is really Barzal, I would say and.
• 16:48
  Horvat. I think the second line is gonna
• 16:50
  be pretty like the most fantasy relevant Lee Barzal Palmeri.
• 16:53
  Lee is good. You last year he was great.
• 16:55
  He actually was a really good shooter.
• 16:56
  Yeah. Shots on goal, keep an eye out.
• 16:57
  There was a point where I almost picked him up.
• 16:59
  I chose someone else over him and I regretted it.
• 17:01
  Yeah, but I remember it was about a couple weeks into the
• 17:03
  season, I was lacking some shots and I sorted by highest shots on
• 17:06
  goal per game and he was top of that list.
• 17:08
  And I thought it was a fluke. But then he maintained it for
• 17:10
  the whole season. So he's definitely an.
• 17:12
  Interesting and he was honestly one of the only like producers
• 17:14
  on the power play as well so. And that's why they got 31st.
• 17:17
  Yeah. Not 30 seconds.
• 17:20
  Yeah, but yeah, not much to write home about on.
• 17:23
  This no, definitely not in Sorokin is just a victim of
• 17:25
  circumstances. He would be.
• 17:27
  Thinking overdrafted this year, Yeah, I think cause I think he
• 17:29
  has the name value. Everybody knows he's like a
• 17:31
  quality goaltender, so I think that pushes him up draft boards
• 17:34
  because, you know, obviously quality is important, yeah.
• 17:36
  But you wanna guess? Sorry, do you wanna guess who 30
• 17:40
  seconds was? For for PowerPoint, yeah, off
• 17:44
  the top of my head. San Jose.
• 17:46
  No, no, no, no, no. Ooh, now looking at your phone
• 17:50
  quick. Guess I'm just trying to look
• 17:51
  at. Teammate.
• 17:52
  Now don't even look at team names.
• 17:54
  The the books, yes, it was actually, yeah.
• 17:59
  Like you had the wrong California team.
• 18:03
  Yeah, but remember the Ducks like ended up turning it up a
• 18:05
  little bit at the end of the season.
• 18:07
  Not enough. Bishop when they were like
• 18:11
  trying to come up with a team name and Daffy Duck was like
• 18:13
  that. Ducks, I thought, I just thought
• 18:16
  of. Space Jam, the chess movie.
• 18:21
  The Space Gambit, We get that reference.
• 18:27
  You have to listen to the previous episode.
• 18:28
  Of the podcast, yeah. Alright, let's move on to number
• 18:32
  six at #6 We've got the Philadelphia Flyers.
• 18:36
  Last year they were #8 this year me and Kevin, Josh and Kevin
• 18:40
  have them ranked at six and Jake has them ranked at 5.
• 18:43
  Some notable players, Travis Konecny, Matt Wayne Michkov,
• 18:46
  Owen Tippett, Trevor Siegrist, newly acquired Jamie Drysdale,
• 18:49
  slightly less newly acquired Travis Sanheim.
• 18:52
  Decent amount of notable players and their power play ranked.
• 18:55
  At Igor Samuel. 30th last. Year knows the Mullah love on.
• 18:59
  Here, Tortorella is not the coach anymore.
• 19:01
  So Samuel's power play. Yeah, who?
• 19:07
  Who? Who is their coach again?
• 19:09
  They talk somebody. Yeah, talk, it talk.
• 19:11
  It's been pretty good for players.
• 19:13
  Fantasy. Really stabilizes teams.
• 19:16
  He's not like the most offensively minded coach, but I
• 19:19
  think he's definitely a step up from Tordella and just in.
• 19:21
  General, he was the coach when Vancouver was amazing two years
• 19:24
  ago, right? And he got a lot out of those,
• 19:26
  those guys. I mean, I would.
• 19:27
  Say it was a more skilled team together, the feud of JT Miller
• 19:31
  realized better since. No ones been hard behind the.
• 19:33
  Scenes. Yeah, honestly.
• 19:34
  No, big time. I, I just, I would say them
• 19:37
  versus this next team, the the one that you guys would have
• 19:41
  ranked higher. I, I personally like, can we
• 19:45
  just say the next one too? I mean, I feel like these are
• 19:47
  like we have them interchangeable.
• 19:48
  Right, all right, if you insist. Go over them both at once,
• 19:52
  because like we're. #5 at #5 We have the Columbus Blue Jackets.
• 19:57
  Last year they finished fourth. Josh and Kevin have them ranked
• 19:59
  five and Jake has them ranked six.
• 20:00
  So essentially interchanged with the Flyers notable players Zach
• 20:04
  Werenski, Kirill Marchenko, Sean Monahan, Dmitry Baranov, Boone
• 20:08
  Jenner, Kent Johnson, Adam Fantilli.
• 20:10
  Last year they finished 22nd on the power play.
• 20:13
  That's surprising. I would expect it higher.
• 20:15
  Really, I think that makes sense.
• 20:16
  Like slightly. Below how many points?
• 20:18
  How many 6 point games? How risky have I thought they
• 20:21
  would have been higher? Yeah, so I, I think I, I screwed
• 20:25
  up and I, I see why you guys have Columbus, I guess the only.
• 20:30
  Thing you look at the lineup, he's like, oh, I made a great.
• 20:31
  Mistake. The only case I'll make for
• 20:33
  Philly is that even Columbus is a young team.
• 20:36
  Philly is even younger. They have a lot of really good
• 20:38
  players. Even this third line, Forrester,
• 20:41
  Kates and Brink can be a huge surprise.
• 20:43
  Like these are good players and you know, down the middle.
• 20:47
  That's a big question mark. Katori has been the most random
• 20:51
  kind of career trajectory ever. It's been super all over the
• 20:54
  place. Mishkoff, we think, can be a
• 20:56
  stud like a prison. White.
• 20:58
  Yeah. You know, so that's kind of
• 20:59
  cool. Connecting is always good.
• 21:00
  And where? The acquisition of Egress.
• 21:03
  Yeah, exactly. Not a bad decor too.
• 21:05
  And I just think that for fantasy purposes, I really love
• 21:07
  their team for Columbus and we'll get into that quickly.
• 21:12
  But yeah, and erson could be a pretty low key goal this year.
• 21:16
  Cause even if they finish five or six, that's not a, that could
• 21:20
  be a 5050 team, right? Like a 500 team.
• 21:23
  And if you have a goalie who's going to get all those starts
• 21:25
  and he was good last year. The judges where he was like
• 21:29
  really fantasy relevant. Yeah, there's this guys on this
• 21:32
  team that I feel like no one thinks are very good.
• 21:34
  That could surprise. To the other side, or just talk
• 21:37
  about Bobby Brink. Brink for sure.
• 21:39
  It's actually. One that I didn't list is a
• 21:41
  Forester, but he's coming off a surgery on the offseason, so I
• 21:45
  actually had him at the end of last year.
• 21:47
  I didn't wanna forget my vibes going into the offseason, so I
• 21:51
  had written a couple of guys who I thought might be sleepers for
• 21:53
  this year, and Forster was on that list.
• 21:55
  But with the acquisitions that bump, that jump him in the depth
• 21:59
  chart and the fact that he was injured in the offseason is
• 22:01
  gonna miss some of camp, he's no longer on that list for me.
• 22:04
  But he was really good at the end of last.
• 22:05
  Year don't hit the vorak either like you know what I mean I feel
• 22:08
  I. Mean for fantasy I do, but if
• 22:09
  you need face off, win tonight I feel.
• 22:11
  Like he just provides face off wins.
• 22:13
  The thing is, I'm really I think connect needs always reliable
• 22:16
  for fantasy right? He's like your main guy, the
• 22:20
  point leagues. Exactly.
• 22:21
  Short handed points is really good, I think is the biggest
• 22:25
  asterisks on this team, right? Like how high can the jump be
• 22:29
  this year? Yeah.
• 22:31
  Can you hit a point per game, three shots a game?
• 22:33
  I think that's the type of player that he's aiming to be
• 22:35
  right for. Sure, yeah, that's it.
• 22:37
  And you know the one thing with Devorak agreed, you have all the
• 22:39
  reason to believe he's not going to be very good for fantasy,
• 22:42
  because on the Habs he wasn't. But he was a depth player on the
• 22:44
  Habs. Here he's second line, centre I.
• 22:46
  Think they're going to say about the fact that they have such bad
• 22:49
  centre? Depth.
• 22:49
  That's exactly it. I don't.
• 22:50
  Think he'll be fantasy relevant but.
• 22:51
  Yeah, it's it's it's this is a lay around Arthur type thing.
• 22:54
  You know, that's what I mean. I just think it's there's more
• 22:56
  to meet than meets the eye to this team.
• 22:58
  It's really that third line bring Kates and Forrester.
• 23:01
  Yeah, I think that's a very exciting third line and that's
• 23:04
  why I put them over Columbus. But I guess we could start
• 23:06
  talking about Columbus. Now, we haven't touched on Owen
• 23:09
  Tippett. He's.
• 23:10
  Mentioned him in our sleepers. I think he's gonna be great.
• 23:14
  This. Year I really like him for his
• 23:15
  value. I just love his shots and hits
• 23:17
  combo. He could easily be a double
• 23:20
  double honestly if you have more as like instead of two and two I
• 23:23
  see him more as. Three and.
• 23:24
  One plus and one plus like 2.51 point five.
• 23:27
  Yeah, something like that. We're getting some like Philip
• 23:29
  Forsberg. Yeah, exactly.
• 23:30
  So obviously Forsberg a bit more and we'll get more points.
• 23:33
  But you know, I love his back cat.
• 23:35
  And if he's on Power Play 1 and Michkov pops off like we expect,
• 23:37
  I think. I mean, we already talked about
• 23:39
  him in the In the Sleepers episode, but we all we all like
• 23:41
  him as a leader. You know that they have like
• 23:44
  pretty much A1A1B situation for power play.
• 23:46
  It's not. Definitely not broken looking at
• 23:48
  the power play on daily phase now, but I feel like it's just
• 23:50
  not trip to what it's actually. Going to that's what I'm saying
• 23:51
  though, like if they do consolidate and put it on,
• 23:54
  whoever ends up there I think is gonna be good.
• 23:56
  My 55 good enough players to make a good prediction.
• 23:59
  For their power play unit is Michkov, Konecny as the locks
• 24:02
  and then likely the other 3 will be Tip it, Siegrist and
• 24:04
  Drysdale. That's what I've got is my five.
• 24:06
  I don't know. If they have criterias as line
• 24:09
  1C, why would they not put him on PP1?
• 24:12
  I just don't see him belonging on power play one over any of
• 24:15
  these guys, but maybe if they want him to win the faceoff,
• 24:18
  obviously that's a good thing. So I could see him bumping was
• 24:20
  there, Yeah, but I don't see obviously Michigan connecting
• 24:23
  your locks and you need to have one defence in there and it's
• 24:25
  gonna be Drysdale. Yeah.
• 24:26
  So it's really and tip it. I just think he has the skills
• 24:28
  to to be there. So yeah, I think Tippet should
• 24:30
  be there. Secrets or Couturier?
• 24:32
  It's a solid spot. Honestly.
• 24:33
  I like that power play. I think it's gonna jump up a lot
• 24:35
  from last year when they were 30th.
• 24:37
  Any at all faith in like any fantasy value this.
• 24:40
  Year the only reason I think he might is because of again how he
• 24:45
  mentioned how terrible their centre depth is.
• 24:47
  If he can be lined on power play 1 and hang out with connecting
• 24:49
  image Gov, it's not like he's a bum who's never shown any
• 24:52
  flashes of being great, you know?
• 24:54
  So yeah, I think he's. Just very one-dimensional,
• 24:56
  right? He's not gonna hit any
• 24:57
  categories for your. Bangs or doesn't get you points.
• 24:59
  He's doing literally nothing and he's a pure C and he doesn't
• 25:02
  really want face offs so I'm not targeting him either.
• 25:04
  If it's last round of the draft and I'm scrambling for someone
• 25:08
  who I think might have some fantasy relevance I could take
• 25:10
  him but it's not like I'm gunning to get him.
• 25:12
  I. Think I'll be happy missing out
• 25:13
  on the Trevor Siegrist bounce back, yeah?
• 25:16
  But given the benefit of the doubt, the last two scenes he
• 25:18
  was heard. Before he was and change of
• 25:21
  scenery always. Helps pointwise, I could see him
• 25:23
  bouncing back, I just don't think he's around well-rounded
• 25:25
  enough player for fantasy to be worth, you know, taking him out.
• 25:29
  Wherever Zagreus or cold cylinder.
• 25:31
  I would like to take secrets as well.
• 25:34
  I think Secret has a spot on, probably one in cylinder.
• 25:36
  Doesn't. Well, let's segue into Columbus.
• 25:37
  Torah cylinder fumble Tate McRae, I mean.
• 25:40
  You all come back from. That yeah, he fumbled making my
• 25:43
  notable players list on Columbus, which is way worse.
• 25:48
  Listen up, Cole. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:51
  So obviously Columbus, I think the biggest reason that we put
• 25:55
  them up first of all, last year, they finished fourth.
• 25:57
  They barely missed the playoffs. They had a great.
• 26:00
  Last put like we stole the last. Spot yeah, that was that was
• 26:02
  super tight to the end, even when they were on like a 10 game
• 26:05
  win. This really stressful as House
• 26:06
  fan and Werenski has shown that he could be a Norris winner and
• 26:11
  Philly does not have anyone remotely like that on defence.
• 26:15
  Marchenko was playing like a pasta light and if you can do
• 26:18
  that, a lot of people have him regressing this year.
• 26:20
  Yeah, but even if he regresses a little bit, he was still putting
• 26:22
  up phenomenal numbers last year, so I think he still gonna be
• 26:25
  great. And then Monahan was showing he
• 26:26
  could be 1C, which is great because he can hold Chantilly.
• 26:30
  Spot until Chantilly really grows into it.
• 26:32
  They've still got Boone Jenner. Kent Johnson was a great points
• 26:35
  guy. Boom Jenner banger league stud
• 26:36
  by the way, like if you don't play in in banger leagues or you
• 26:39
  know he's. Also that shots face off, wins,
• 26:41
  hits blocks. Yeah, exactly.
• 26:43
  He's all of them. Yeah, Pinky.
• 26:45
  Drafted him like 11th round 1011 last year, which is a great spot
• 26:48
  to get him. He's announced like out for the
• 26:50
  season. Yeah.
• 26:51
  Jakey drops him because he got so many injuries and then the
• 26:53
  guy who won our league first place picked him up, stopped him
• 26:56
  on. I stashed him on IR, then he got
• 26:57
  healthy and then he wrecked us. Yeah.
• 27:00
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 27:01
  Anyway, so Columbus will be exciting.
• 27:02
  I don't think they make the playoffs, but that's more a
• 27:06
  product of how good I think some of these other teams are as
• 27:09
  opposed to them taking a big step back.
• 27:12
  Sean Monahan, where are you? Where are you, Where do you rank
• 27:14
  them in terms of like centres? Because last year we saw him
• 27:17
  like really be successful on this Columbus team.
• 27:20
  Yeah, he was producing like the second, third round value.
• 27:23
  My two things with Monahan is, one, that he's a pure C and pure
• 27:26
  C is a very deep position. And two, it's the injuries and I
• 27:29
  guess a little 3 is fentanyl. He's right on his tail.
• 27:32
  Yeah. So that's the big, the big three
• 27:34
  ifs for him. So I'm not gonna take him like
• 27:36
  super early, assuming he's getting the same stuff as last
• 27:38
  year. There's no he's putting up those
• 27:39
  same numbers. I still think he could be a
• 27:41
  really valuable asset to your team.
• 27:42
  Can I give you some names? Do you do drive Chantilly higher
• 27:45
  or Monahan? I think I take Monahan higher
• 27:47
  even though I know he's the future guy and if he takes over
• 27:52
  line on power play 1 mid year, I'm not going to be like gasping
• 27:55
  and clutching my pearls, you know?
• 27:57
  But I do think Monahan has the edge.
• 27:59
  He just did so well last year. Why would they rush until he
• 28:01
  when Monahan did so well? Monahan or Bull Horvat?
• 28:06
  Hmm. That's I think I'd go Horvat
• 28:08
  just because of the fantilli of it.
• 28:10
  All I I'd go Monahan just because even if he is lying too,
• 28:13
  I think his surrounding cast is better.
• 28:15
  Monaghan or Logan Cooley? Cooley.
• 28:19
  Cooley Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah.
• 28:22
  Well. We're pretty high.
• 28:23
  I don't think Cooley is secure to spot on power play 1.
• 28:27
  Not. Really.
• 28:28
  Yeah, I think they have. Just look, I can name off top of
• 28:30
  my head Keller, Schmaltz, Sergachev, Peterka, Guenther.
• 28:36
  Like obviously he could bump Schmaltz off.
• 28:38
  Yeah, bump Patrick off, but it's not like a locked spot.
• 28:42
  Not that Monahan. Is either I'm honestly, I wasn't
• 28:44
  factoring in faceoffs to that equation.
• 28:46
  So that that's a pretty big yeah.
• 28:48
  Jump in Monaghan's favor, of course.
• 28:50
  Yeah. I just think really could be a
• 28:51
  lead. No sheet to Cooley.
• 28:54
  Like more Monahan being good. It's also just like I said, how
• 28:57
  overcrowded that power play one spot is.
• 28:58
  I think just having that cap, if you're not on that power play
• 29:01
  one, I'm really not high on any points.
• 29:03
  Guy who's not on power play 1. Fair enough.
• 29:05
  Because to me, it's like there's certain archetypes of pure sees,
• 29:08
  right? It's like the guys that are, you
• 29:09
  know, have the great deployment but lack the category coverage
• 29:13
  and the guys that hit the categories and like also have
• 29:15
  good points, right? Like, he falls in the guys that
• 29:17
  are like, you know, Kopitar, where Kopitar averages, he
• 29:20
  averaged 1.2 shots in the last year, right?
• 29:23
  But like .83 points, .27 power play points.
• 29:26
  Like I feel like that's kind of like Monahan's gonna shoot more
• 29:29
  than that. Yeah, I would.
• 29:30
  But that's the archetype of if that's a question, all right,
• 29:33
  about strong Dylan Strome over Manhattan.
• 29:35
  OK. All right, let's go to #4 Bill
• 29:39
  and strong number. Four, we have the Washington
• 29:42
  Capitals. Last year they were #1 right.
• 29:45
  This year Josh has them ranked at 3, Jake and Kevin off the
• 29:48
  ranked up four. I will say my wife Eva helped me
• 29:53
  do my rankings. And she blamed the wife already.
• 29:58
  The Washington area, that was her team before I hijacked her
• 30:01
  and made her a Habs fan. So I'm not going to lie and say
• 30:04
  that didn't have slight effects on my my rankings.
• 30:07
  But let me get worse. They would be 4 and at best they
• 30:10
  would be 3. One blue, blue blown Rouge.
• 30:13
  Always. Exactly.
• 30:15
  So it's funny with this because I'm the highest on Washington.
• 30:19
  And I put the highest. Ranking.
• 30:20
  Yeah, exactly. I was shocked.
• 30:22
  But again, I gotta blame it on the wife on this one.
• 30:25
  But quickly, I'll go into the notable players.
• 30:27
  Yeah, we got Alex Ovechkin, obviously.
• 30:29
  Dylan Strome, Tom Wilson, Logan Thompson, Connor McMichael, the
• 30:33
  best Connor make in the league, Alexey Protis and Pierre Luc
• 30:35
  Dubois. Boy, you.
• 30:39
  And last year their power play was 14th in the league.
• 30:42
  Right now, go. Keep 2 defensemen on this power
• 30:46
  play. One, yes they can.
• 30:47
  Will they? I think.
• 30:49
  Probably, I think. I think chicken stapled to the
• 30:52
  P. Was gonna say, of the two
• 30:53
  defensemen, which one do you think is more likely to get
• 30:55
  bumped? John Carlson's getting bumped.
• 30:57
  If anything, I think this is the year they make the switch.
• 30:59
  Yeah, I if they do make a switch.
• 31:01
  I mean I feel like Dubya and Leonard can both or even make
• 31:06
  Michael can make a jump to. That power level adjustment, I
• 31:08
  said there were 14 plastic, probably they were 13th.
• 31:10
  Whoa, that changes everything. I just I don't want any
• 31:13
  listeners calling me out and be like he messed up the power
• 31:15
  please. But yeah, here's my 5 if you
• 31:18
  guys wanna know my 5. Hopefully I've got Ovechkin and
• 31:20
  Strum stapled there. Hmm.
• 31:22
  Wilson Likely, yeah. And then Chicken and Carlson.
• 31:25
  If one of the defensemen gets bumped, I honestly think it's
• 31:27
  gonna be Carlson, and I think the guy who replaces him as
• 31:30
  McMichael. And that's my my assessment.
• 31:32
  That's fair. I mean, McMichael and Leonard
• 31:36
  and protests are three young guys who are going to just take
• 31:39
  us another step forward, I believe.
• 31:40
  The thing is this team was weak last year and still didn't have
• 31:43
  produce on P2. Like the P2 wasn't like
• 31:47
  anything. Was strong last.
• 31:48
  Year but but what I'm saying is like he couldn't, the team was
• 31:52
  good and he couldn't break into P.
• 31:53
  Two. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:54
  So they didn't need him to. He was so unreal at 585.
• 31:57
  That's what I'm saying. I think he's gonna have a power
• 31:59
  place while those. Yeah, he'll be power play too
• 32:01
  here and it, but I just I don't think who cares?
• 32:03
  About over who? Who does he get P2 over?
• 32:07
  Ryan Leonard. I don't even know.
• 32:10
  I don't. You don't getting over to boy,
• 32:11
  he's not getting it over all these spot.
• 32:13
  He's not getting it over McMichael.
• 32:15
  There's gonna be a defenseman. And then the last part is Ryan
• 32:18
  Leonard. Yeah, that's fair.
• 32:19
  I guess the only way he gets it is if make Michael goes to #1
• 32:24
  and one of the other defensemen comes down to 2 and.
• 32:27
  Replaces there's no John Carlton not all gonna be not gonna be P2
• 32:29
  if he's not on P. One, I'm saying so, but then
• 32:31
  whatever other defensemen would have been on P2 against bumped
• 32:34
  off and then spot. Protest was 16th in the league
• 32:37
  last year and even strength points.
• 32:39
  Yeah, it was nuts. I mean crazy.
• 32:41
  The biggest thing? Talk.
• 32:42
  About 66. Right.
• 32:46
  Yeah. Exactly.
• 32:47
  Yeah, the key stat here is the tallness.
• 32:50
  Here's the protest she told you not to worry about.
• 32:51
  Exactly. Yeah, seriously. 24 years old
• 32:54
  and six? Six.
• 32:55
  Not that that makes any sense, but you get it.
• 32:58
  I I can't see why they would take Oh my God and plus 40.
• 33:03
  It was a + 40. This guy makes things happen.
• 33:06
  What do when he walks around with that big protest energy
• 33:08
  like nobody can? Nobody could stand a.
• 33:12
  Chance sleep, yeah. Definitely up there anyway, but
• 33:15
  I find with this team, they're they're good.
• 33:18
  I mean, just to have a guy who can do that and not crack the
• 33:22
  power play. The ranking like me and Kevin
• 33:25
  have nonstop been saying especially I think the hardest
• 33:26
  on this of Washington's gonna regress.
• 33:28
  We're going to talk down and you're like, I still like
• 33:30
  Washington and then you put them up for.
• 33:32
  Honestly think the other three are much.
• 33:34
  Stronger I I would not be shy. They're like really, really
• 33:36
  strong the other. Team, that means that you agree
• 33:38
  with me when I said that Washington was gonna.
• 33:39
  Be a while we were talking off the podcast about this right
• 33:42
  with the wild card situation. They obviously to me there are
• 33:47
  tear break from the other four in the metropolitan, no doubt
• 33:50
  about it. So all teams get into the.
• 33:51
  Playoffs, I don't think they're tear break with Columbus,
• 33:54
  really. I don't know.
• 33:55
  That's a hot take. I can see it's not and 5th and
• 33:59
  Columbus being 4th. I could.
• 34:00
  See it, I just think they have much better defensemen like not.
• 34:04
  Other than Werenski? That's kind of to me, what?
• 34:06
  And the goaltending, also Columbus, yeah, they've got,
• 34:09
  they've got Meekins and Jack Reeves.
• 34:10
  I think Merlin. Just get fedotov.
• 34:13
  Yeah, yeah. I don't think he cracks it, but
• 34:15
  yeah. Grieves was actually he was
• 34:18
  really fun. The name Logan Thompson
• 34:22
  obviously was great for fantasy last year, but he was a product
• 34:24
  of this team being the first seed.
• 34:25
  Right. Yeah.
• 34:26
  And well, I mean, it goes hand in hand.
• 34:28
  You can't say it was all a product of that.
• 34:30
  It's not like they were guaranteed first.
• 34:31
  But we saw him also like, collapse near the end of the
• 34:33
  season as well, like you completely fell off.
• 34:35
  So, you know what's the real Logan Top?
• 34:38
  Step above Columbus, but I'm also low on Washington.
• 34:40
  Like I think, I think they're gonna be a a wild.
• 34:42
  Card I can just see these young guys on Columbus taking a step
• 34:44
  up and then Washington, you know, these guys fall back down.
• 34:47
  Everybody, everybody and their mothers.
• 34:50
  Things that these guys are going to regress closer to.
• 34:52
  Like I think that. The lower levels.
• 34:53
  I think it's actually a similar situation.
• 34:54
  I think people are gonna regress.
• 34:56
  People think that both Columbus and Washington are gonna
• 34:58
  regress. They think both of them over
• 34:59
  performed last year, Yeah. So I think.
• 35:01
  But I think the Columbus guys were breakouts and The Walking
• 35:05
  was more of a product of like. I don't know why.
• 35:07
  She has plenty of young guys, too.
• 35:09
  It's true. Listen.
• 35:10
  Nothing beats a Jet Grieves Holiday.
• 35:14
  Got it. Yes.
• 35:17
  Yeah. Make fun joke with you.
• 35:23
  Yeah, yeah. So, so I I think though just
• 35:27
  overall there, I get what you're saying, Kevin, but I think that
• 35:32
  easily they're the wild card spot from the Metropolitan.
• 35:35
  Yeah, even though we think that the Atlantic Division is kind of
• 35:39
  a. Better bet, think that we
• 35:41
  mentioned this off. The exactly.
• 35:42
  It's very, very likely, but I say it's likely that both wild
• 35:47
  card spots are taken up by Atlantic.
• 35:49
  Panthers, Lightning, Canadians, Maple Leafs and Senators.
• 35:53
  Like, I feel like all of those teams are gonna make the
• 35:55
  playoffs. Yeah.
• 35:56
  So for the wild card spot to go. To will you play?
• 35:59
  You play more teams in your division and the teams, the top
• 36:02
  heavy teams in the Atlantic are also strong.
• 36:05
  So true. It takes away points from each
• 36:08
  other is what I'm saying. Not everybody can have all great
• 36:10
  points, yeah. Yeah.
• 36:11
  Would you guys want Ryan Leonard on your team?
• 36:13
  Supposed to be pretty good for for.
• 36:14
  Bangers I I wouldn't draft him but he's like the guy I put on
• 36:17
  my watch list as soon as the draft is over and you wait and
• 36:19
  see if he does anything relevant.
• 36:20
  Not. Like grabbing him as the last
• 36:21
  round pick. Yeah, I'm not doing anything
• 36:24
  like reaching he has no chance of getting power play 1 so he's
• 36:27
  not gonna be has a pretty low point ceiling.
• 36:30
  But his bangs I've heard. I mean based on last year.
• 36:33
  'S. And, and it's a it's a sight to
• 36:37
  see, you know? You could do it, his body very
• 36:40
  physically capable. He could be like a mini Wilson,
• 36:43
  like a Wilson in training. A wit, you know.
• 36:45
  Wilson is good because he gets the points and the goals and the
• 36:48
  power play along. With the right if, if Leonard
• 36:50
  could do the Pimms shots and hits that Wilson does even
• 36:53
  without the points, that's a player you want on your team.
• 36:55
  Sure, obviously that wasn't an elite level, so that's a high
• 37:00
  for to reach, but definitely someone keeping an eye.
• 37:02
  On this team, who's most likely to end up on your on your
• 37:05
  fantasy team? Wilson.
• 37:06
  Yeah, same for me. Wilson or different I think
• 37:10
  from. I want to go with produce.
• 37:13
  I'm pretty high on him. Wow.
• 37:14
  Alright, fifth round protest for Jake.
• 37:16
  Yeah, yeah, I just. Saw the six six and he's like,
• 37:19
  man, all right, let's go to. Number 43.
• 37:26
  Number 43. OK, at #43 we've.
• 37:30
  Got. Let's actually tell most of them
• 37:31
  so. Oh my God, it's all connecting
• 37:35
  the pieces, all the three. We've got the New Jersey Devils.
• 37:39
  Last year they ranked #3 this year I've got them.
• 37:42
  I Josh, should I say I should I say I don't know, Just keep.
• 37:47
  Saying but I'm wasting a lot of time.
• 37:51
  That's outside by that anyways. I don't know when I find that
• 37:59
  OK. I ranked them at #4 because even
• 38:02
  made me put Washington at 3. Jackie had them at 3 and Kevin
• 38:05
  had them at #1. On the island for the first time
• 38:08
  ever. Yeah, wow.
• 38:10
  Me and Jake are on on a point here.
• 38:12
  Notable players, notable players.
• 38:14
  We've got Jacques. Thank you.
• 38:18
  JB. ITV I didn't have it written in
• 38:23
  front of me as well as last time.
• 38:26
  Yes, for brat Brat pack, yes, exactly.
• 38:29
  Niko Hesher, Dougie Hamilton, Timo Meyer, Jacob Markstrom and
• 38:34
  Luke Hughes. Their power play ranking last
• 38:36
  year was #3 a lot of threes here, so Kevin's clearly wrong.
• 38:40
  But yeah, these guys are all super exciting.
• 38:44
  This is one of the ones where I'm looking at the notable
• 38:47
  players in every single one of them is someone I'd be happy to
• 38:49
  have on my team. Mire the least because of the
• 38:51
  power play spot and Luke Hughes as well.
• 38:53
  But. This is Steven Mason.
• 38:58
  Yeah, but yeah, I know this is super exciting team.
• 39:00
  If you're a big points power play points lover then you'll
• 39:04
  enjoy having. These guys, I'm a mother lover
• 39:06
  you're. Oh my God.
• 39:10
  Say anything. Interject please.
• 39:14
  Alright, listen. So yeah, I think.
• 39:20
  Threw me off my groove. Main thing to talk about I
• 39:24
  believe is obviously Jack uses health.
• 39:28
  If he's healthy, I think we all believe he can hit 100 points,
• 39:30
  right? He's going to be a fringe around
• 39:32
  one player. I believe the 11th person
• 39:34
  picked. Fair, right?
• 39:37
  I've got I've got my whole this again, go into this in the the
• 39:39
  draft order episode his but we've kind of been discussing
• 39:42
  our top ten and he's the clear 11.
• 39:45
  Yeah, and we playing in a full on bangers league that has face
• 39:49
  offs, shorthanded points and everything, right?
• 39:51
  So like, yeah, he's just so good at shooting and point and power
• 39:54
  play points. You guys will get you 4 plus
• 39:55
  shots A. Game, yeah, it's very rare.
• 39:57
  But the other question is I think the defenseman on this
• 40:01
  power play, right? I think it's between Dougie and
• 40:03
  Loop because I think people are predicting.
• 40:06
  Dict if you predict that, like if you draft Luke as late as he
• 40:10
  should be drafted and then he steals that power play one spot,
• 40:12
  it's huge value. That's insane value.
• 40:15
  And if you draw you where he's going and then he doesn't get
• 40:17
  people one that looks bad. Exactly, yeah.
• 40:20
  And it's almost worth taking a shot at Hughes late just on the
• 40:23
  off chance to get that. Obviously the tough thing is how
• 40:25
  long do you hold on to him if he's not doing anything for a
• 40:27
  while? So that's the tough part.
• 40:28
  But if you draft him and see what happens at the start of the
• 40:31
  season, it's a it's definitely a possibility that happens because
• 40:34
  it happened in the past. And that probably was #3 in the
• 40:37
  league, yeah. I don't see them regressing.
• 40:38
  The thing is, Dougie is so good though.
• 40:40
  He's like a really good player. He's only 32.
• 40:42
  It's not like he's aging out completely and he's like one of
• 40:45
  the best offensive defensemen in the league.
• 40:47
  I don't even know why it's a question to me, like if I was
• 40:50
  the coach would obviously be buggy.
• 40:52
  Maybe the question is because you've got Jack Hughes there as
• 40:54
  well, like brothers stuff. I don't know.
• 40:56
  But the fact is it is a question and it makes me a bit wary of
• 40:59
  drafting Hamilton where I normally would be super happy
• 41:01
  because again, he's one of those shooters.
• 41:03
  He gets like 3.63 point seven shots from a defence in his
• 41:05
  massive power play, one explode. Like a mini Evan Bouchard type
• 41:09
  of thing. Yeah, exactly.
• 41:09
  I mean mine is the goals, but like the power.
• 41:11
  Production for sure. And honestly, I mean, they're
• 41:14
  probably was ranked higher than Edmonton last year.
• 41:16
  So it's just that big question that makes me wary.
• 41:18
  I don't know. Do you guys, do you guys take
• 41:20
  Dougie and just hope he keeps it?
• 41:21
  Or I like really want Dougie on my team because I want exposure
• 41:25
  to the top to how do what. Yeah.
• 41:32
  Yes, I wanted to teach me how to Dougie, but I also wanted to
• 41:35
  teach me how to run that power play baby.
• 41:36
  But because I think he's I think he's one of the most elite
• 41:41
  defensemen in terms for fantasy. If he keeps that P1 spot the
• 41:44
  whole season, he could be like a French top fighter.
• 41:47
  He could. Be one of those high risk high
• 41:48
  reward guys because of that risk there.
• 41:49
  He's going to drop a bit lower than he should if it was a
• 41:51
  guarantee you grab him if he keeps it you you got him a few
• 41:55
  rounds later than he should have.
• 41:56
  He doesn't keep it. That's honestly do you even hold
• 41:59
  on to him if he's not power play?
• 41:59
  One, I've done that in the past, right?
• 42:01
  I've drafted Dougie. Was it 2, two years ago?
• 42:04
  And then they just straight up Luke cues on there at the
• 42:06
  beginning and it was always like this week I'll put dog because
• 42:08
  the power play actually was bad that yeah.
• 42:10
  And then they never did. And then it took out one full
• 42:12
  year for them to be like, alright, I guess we'll put
• 42:13
  Dougie. That's one thing to note though,
• 42:15
  right? Dougie was the power play one
• 42:16
  quarterback last year and they were third rank.
• 42:18
  The year before it was Luke and they weren't very good.
• 42:20
  So Luke is young and is developing and getting older so.
• 42:24
  Stuff. There's also the whole contract
• 42:25
  thing with Luke was right, he hasn't signed his contract.
• 42:27
  There's a big discussion there. I wish he had so I could say my
• 42:30
  catch phrase, but I can't because there's nothing to
• 42:31
  follow so. Follow that.
• 42:33
  All the potential money. Yeah, exactly.
• 42:35
  Yeah. So stay tuned.
• 42:37
  It do I I do think it's possible for them to just bump off
• 42:42
  Nathan, to be honest. I know he plays an essential
• 42:44
  role. I think it's not impossible that
• 42:46
  you can have Meyer. I don't I don't see them
• 42:52
  running. You know, one or the other
• 42:53
  defensemen, but I think Meyer could bump.
• 42:56
  Nobody's gonna draft him, yeah. Look, I same thing with, as I
• 43:00
  mentioned with Hamilton, if you take Meyer where he's going,
• 43:03
  which is later than he should, if he had power play 1 and he
• 43:05
  gets power play one, that's another huge draft.
• 43:06
  Steal. Yeah, absolutely.
• 43:08
  The other thing we should mention?
• 43:09
  Holding him and he doesn't have. Any there is like why do they
• 43:12
  pick Simon Nemanja 2? It's like they already have
• 43:16
  something. For you already have so many
• 43:20
  good defensemen why I guess they were just going BPA best player
• 43:22
  available so well, which is something.
• 43:24
  So they probably use them as a trade off or something right?
• 43:27
  Yeah, they pass Cooley. Yeah.
• 43:29
  And Shane, right? Yeah, you're right.
• 43:31
  Actually, that was this Lefkofsky year.
• 43:33
  So I think that the idea for them at the time was that they
• 43:37
  wanted to pick a defence because they were loaded on offence.
• 43:39
  But now that you know, quote UN quote wasted a second overall
• 43:43
  pick. On rule drafting a third line C
• 43:47
  because nobody would been nobody's bumping Heatran Jack
• 43:50
  Hughes, right so. Exact centre.
• 43:51
  Yeah, a third line C is a lot worse.
• 43:53
  Than they put Cooley on the. Wings I just realized.
• 43:56
  Is there any way, shape or form that they try to develop him
• 43:59
  into the offensive guy? I know it doesn't seem like that
• 44:02
  name, it's just Luke uses the name.
• 44:04
  Crowded. It's like with Byerman Buffalo,
• 44:06
  there's no chance because there's someone named Dolly and
• 44:08
  there's someone named Power. So same here.
• 44:09
  There's someone named Hamilton, someone named Hughes.
• 44:11
  He's the classic, the guy that's gonna get traded for their
• 44:14
  window piece. What it feels like, it's a
• 44:17
  really, it's like the David Ryan Baker for the Habs.
• 44:20
  Like at this point I feel like he's not gonna.
• 44:21
  Be the Logan, my youth. Yeah, exactly.
• 44:23
  Because the piece we are missing.
• 44:26
  Yeah, if you look at Hughes stats, it's actually pretty
• 44:29
  impressive for a young guy. He's you.
• 44:31
  Know 22 years old, worth picking up?
• 44:32
  You picked him up last. Year in the house and he was
• 44:34
  great because he had that people one spot dog he was out with
• 44:36
  surgery or that yeah this season.
• 44:38
  I would personally fade Dougie. Just using image and use are the
• 44:42
  same age like ones much. I'm also fading Dougie.
• 44:46
  I just feel like there's nowhere to go but down.
• 44:47
  And for Hughes? There's no What do you mean?
• 44:49
  We just talked about how we can be a top five fantasy
• 44:52
  defenseman. No, but that's where you're
• 44:54
  drafting exactly. Yeah, but if we're not drafting
• 44:57
  at that ceiling, you're drafting him out like way later.
• 45:00
  Well, that OK. It depends obviously the price
• 45:01
  then yeah, but I don't think yeah.
• 45:03
  Later, like he he's around. He's around 6-7 defensemen in
• 45:08
  fantasy, yeah. Then he goes to five.
• 45:10
  I mean, it's nice. Evan Bouchard, Bouchard, the
• 45:12
  defence of the board. You got around 3:00.
• 45:14
  So you think there's any way Doug is better than?
• 45:16
  Mustard, No, not saying that, but I'm just saying if he could
• 45:19
  be closed and that's third round value.
• 45:21
  What? I'm still feeding him.
• 45:22
  I don't like having that headache.
• 45:24
  Yeah, I like. The headache is.
• 45:25
  Definitely enough round, yeah, but around six or seven, I want
• 45:27
  a guy who's guaranteed power play.
• 45:28
  One, yeah, I just don't know. I would pick up.
• 45:31
  I would just pick a forward over at that point for little queues.
• 45:35
  14, yeah. Here.
• 45:38
  Yeah, I would for this reason I could.
• 45:40
  But it could be a 0. Yeah, I basically wouldn't want
• 45:42
  to draft Dougie at cost and I'd be happy to draft Luka cost.
• 45:45
  I would not reach on much lower. Yeah, exactly.
• 45:47
  Let's touch on a few other names we did mention right before we
• 45:50
  go to the next team, like Brad is doing what he did last year.
• 45:53
  What do we think? Is he a second round talent?
• 45:55
  Third round talent. Everything I'm seeing in terms
• 45:57
  of like draft rankings have him as a second round pick.
• 46:00
  That's not what he produced last year.
• 46:02
  Last year, we expect there was no part of the Brat Pack.
• 46:06
  This year I'm I'm I'm intrigued by the Brat Pack, but.
• 46:10
  Look, I think he's going to be great this year, as he was last
• 46:13
  year. Maybe he was a bit less good.
• 46:16
  It's the shots. That's the shots for.
• 46:17
  Me the shots is the biggest reason why I wouldn't take him
• 46:20
  the two biggest reason I would take him in the second round is
• 46:21
  1 is the shots and to us he just I hate taking guys were coming
• 46:24
  off a career year because it could always be a blip.
• 46:27
  It doesn't necessarily mean that they just took a step and that's
• 46:29
  their career what I take him in a third or fourth round 100%.
• 46:32
  I think he's a great player to have on your team.
• 46:34
  I think you gonna love having him on your team.
• 46:35
  But second Rich for me. If you if you do like a, I'm
• 46:39
  giving you a hypothetical. Proteins into yes.
• 46:41
  No, but let's say, let's say you got JT Miller in our draft,
• 46:44
  right? Like J, Yeah, you go on the
• 46:46
  turn, you get Darlene third round pick Yes for Brat.
• 46:50
  I love, yes, Brian, that exact scenario, which is your first
• 46:52
  two picks were more bangers. Exactly.
• 46:53
  So you got him to kind of supplement your points
• 46:56
  production. I think that's amazing way to
• 46:57
  construct a team. And Timo, are you, is he on your
• 47:02
  no draft list or are you still intrigued?
• 47:04
  I'm not. I'm not like against drafting
• 47:06
  him. I think someone's gonna take the
• 47:08
  shot at him earlier than I'm willing to.
• 47:10
  But I think he's gonna go to ADP.
• 47:11
  I think he has a he's a stink around him.
• 47:13
  Like people. People know that Demo is like
• 47:15
  notorious at this point for not delivering.
• 47:17
  No longer team of time. I'll be there a few times
• 47:20
  throughout. The year, No, honestly, I'm if
• 47:22
  he drops, I'm happy to take him. He does have that shot.
• 47:24
  Hits floor. Yeah.
• 47:25
  So he's not gonna be putting up zeros on your team?
• 47:28
  He finally found some chemistry in the last year I.
• 47:29
  Think the worst thing with team of the past couple years is that
• 47:31
  is where he's been drafted. You draft him expecting to be
• 47:33
  that power play one guy who's also contributing in the back,
• 47:36
  cat someone. He didn't do that.
• 47:37
  Everyone's disappointed in him Exactly and he should.
• 47:41
  If he was powerful one, that's a perfect spot to take him.
• 47:43
  So if he drops a couple of rounds from that and you grab
• 47:46
  him and you're not expect, you're expecting him to maybe be
• 47:48
  power play one for 1/3 of the games throughout the season due
• 47:50
  to injuries or whatever, then then you're super happy with
• 47:53
  him. So I'm not avoiding him.
• 47:54
  I don't have any ill will against him but I'm not taking
• 47:57
  him in the 1st 3/4. Rounds he he was special.
• 48:00
  Nikov. Basically.
• 48:01
  When he was on the Sharks, he was actually even better.
• 48:03
  He was unreal. He was amazing.
• 48:05
  I'm pretty sure that picked him this year that would.
• 48:07
  Be the worst thing to. Happen.
• 48:08
  Yeah, it's crazy. I don't know.
• 48:10
  You. Me neither, it makes no sense.
• 48:13
  And they gave him a. Decent.
• 48:13
  I think it's a role issue. It's.
• 48:14
  Not even the same coach. Like they switched coaches.
• 48:16
  Yeah, it's. The same issue, yeah, I don't
• 48:19
  understand. But you're dealing with the
• 48:20
  actual human aspect of it. Like probably lost some
• 48:23
  confidence when he first got there and it didn't work out
• 48:25
  right away. And then you're kind of trying
• 48:26
  to get back to where you were. And you're also going from being
• 48:28
  the guy on San Jose that had no one else at the time.
• 48:31
  Yeah, part of the back. Exactly.
• 48:33
  Exactly. There's a -, 28 two years ago
• 48:36
  that's horrible, but last year was the first year were Sheldon
• 48:38
  Keefe. He was but +7 8053 points in 80
• 48:42
  games. Listen, it's not bad actually,
• 48:44
  it's just his accounts. It's the power play production.
• 48:46
  The P1 is so good that nobody in P2 is ever getting any time.
• 48:49
  Yeah. So it's like.
• 48:51
  Why is Nathan there? It's just because the wrong guy.
• 48:53
  Yeah, but Meyer could do that. Yeah, Myers is a big deal, Yeah.
• 48:56
  They wanna waste Meyer in that role when somebody else can do
• 48:58
  it and they just rather have a better weather.
• 49:00
  Look, that makes sense. It's not like it's doing much
• 49:02
  else, yeah. You know if the P2 ever does
• 49:05
  come out, like they wanna have actually guys that are capable
• 49:08
  there. He's 6 foot 220.
• 49:10
  That's a unit. It's a little Teach Thompson
• 49:12
  produce. Let's go to a foot.
• 49:20
  Picked before Rantanen. That's wild when that happened.
• 49:23
  Imagine that's. Actually, crazy Colorado missed
• 49:25
  out. Yeah, exactly.
• 49:28
  Alright, number. Two at #2 we've got the New York
• 49:32
  Rangers last year they ranked #5 shocking.
• 49:36
  Absolutely everyone. Josh slash me has them.
• 49:39
  Ranked. Number one this year, yeah,
• 49:42
  that's my spicy take. They're jumping up to 1.
• 49:44
  Jakey has them ranked at #2 and Kevin has them ranked #3 Some
• 49:47
  notable players, JT Miller, Jonathan Donathan Talisman,
• 49:52
  Exactly are Tammy Panarin, the bread man, Igor Chesterton,
• 49:56
  Vinnie Trocheck, Adam Fox, Mika Zibanejad, Alexis Lafreniere,
• 50:00
  and of course Will Cooley. Last year their power play
• 50:03
  ranked. If you guys aren't looking at
• 50:06
  the dock, I'd like to hear your guesses.
• 50:08
  If you already looked then it's fine.
• 50:09
  But no the Rangers. You say 20.
• 50:13
  What do you say? 17.
• 50:16
  They ranked 28th. Wow is that insane?
• 50:19
  Is that true? Reading positive regression.
• 50:21
  Big time. There's, I feel like your
• 50:24
  priority number one. They were like, yeah. 100% this
• 50:27
  is the biggest glaring. There's already enough reasons
• 50:30
  that we've pointed out over the past couple episodes why we love
• 50:32
  love the Rangers as they bounce back candidate.
• 50:34
  But this is the biggest glaring thing.
• 50:36
  They do not belong at 28. They're among the likes of the
• 50:39
  Ducks and Philly. It doesn't make any sense.
• 50:44
  Look at how many notable players I mentioned.
• 50:46
  I don't think there's a single player on that list I'd be
• 50:47
  unhappy with on my roster. This is the most obvious
• 50:50
  turnaround story for this year. Yeah.
• 50:52
  I just can't see them being as bad.
• 50:54
  I don't like their defence. You guys pointed out how Gabber?
• 50:57
  Called. Really is a good defensive
• 50:58
  defenseman. Yeah, which is absolutely fair.
• 51:01
  I. Think I'm not discounting them
• 51:04
  or giving any plus what him and counter.
• 51:06
  Miller yeah, but I think the offence is where this team has
• 51:10
  spread about. These top 2 lines are fire.
• 51:12
  They're. Talking about talismanic,
• 51:14
  Jonathan Tonaton also just got named captain of the.
• 51:17
  That's big news. He literally just got traded
• 51:19
  there. He gets name captain.
• 51:20
  Yeah, that's. Easy.
• 51:21
  We really like what we saw in those thirty.
• 51:22
  Games. Yeah, exactly like we remember
• 51:24
  five years ago. You're really good on this team,
• 51:26
  so we're gonna be captain. D's in depth too.
• 51:29
  I mean, I wouldn't say they're 3rd or 4th liners.
• 51:31
  Anything to write home about. We spoke about Gabriel Perot in
• 51:34
  our in our. Caller.
• 51:36
  Caller candidates like a fringe, you know.
• 51:40
  It was like if he stays in the NHL, maybe he could.
• 51:43
  Yeah. I don't expect much.
• 51:44
  There's too much sick depth in the top 6 here.
• 51:47
  Yeah, this is just, but that's what's so great for fantasy is
• 51:50
  to is to have a team that's gonna need to score.
• 51:52
  I would say also Igor, just a great goalie.
• 51:55
  Igor. I will say a lot of times we
• 51:57
  talk about these really good teams that have too many mouths
• 51:59
  to feed and what I like about the Rangers guys who are in that
• 52:04
  list, too many. First of all, there's just
• 52:06
  enough. There's also a bit of that
• 52:07
  aspect, too many. But the guys who are on the
• 52:09
  fringe are bangers, are great at Vengers, so even if they don't
• 52:12
  get as many of the points, you're still going to contribute
• 52:14
  in dangers. So they're still very valuable
• 52:16
  down your team. I'm looking at a Trocheck and
• 52:17
  Aquilian laugh. Yeah, the the main thing I think
• 52:20
  to talk about with the Rangers is obviously it's Mikasa manage
• 52:23
  AD I think we had we had them on.
• 52:25
  Our one trap player. #1 trap player for where he was going
• 52:28
  and name value and all that. And I think it's just the
• 52:31
  question on do you believe that he keeps a P1 spot or not?
• 52:34
  And I mean, I'm personally on the Cam that I think he ends up
• 52:38
  getting bumped off and I think he ends up missing out.
• 52:40
  I think it's going to be JT Miller, Panera and Adam Fox.
• 52:42
  Those are your three locks. I think Lafreniere this year
• 52:45
  gets a lock on that spot with no more Cryder and I think there's
• 52:48
  one spot left for Mika or Trojak.
• 52:52
  I think Project could easily be the net front guy.
• 52:54
  Listen, I wouldn't be shocked if Zabana starts there and Check
• 52:58
  just runs a second unit because we've seen him run the second
• 53:00
  unit in the past. But.
• 53:01
  Look, I fully agree with your 3 locks.
• 53:03
  Those are obvious. Miller, Panarin, Fox.
• 53:04
  And then it's going to be like you said, some mix of Zibanejad,
• 53:07
  Trocheck and laugh. So one of those guys gonna be
• 53:10
  the one out to me. I see Trocheck as the odd man
• 53:12
  out, but there's lots to think about.
• 53:15
  Looking at the names on the list, I think protects the admin
• 53:18
  out. But it's like you said with the
• 53:19
  role they play. I still think.
• 53:21
  I think they could put laugh as the net front guy instead of
• 53:23
  Trocheck. Yeah.
• 53:23
  And so that could kind of make sense.
• 53:25
  That's kind of how I see it. I do still think depends where
• 53:28
  you get taken in terms of advantage.
• 53:29
  I'd like as early as last year, I think he was a second rounder.
• 53:34
  2 years ago he was definitely a second rounder.
• 53:35
  Last year maybe he was a second, third rounder.
• 53:37
  So I'm curious to see where he goes this year.
• 53:39
  It's like he had the best year last year.
• 53:41
  I'm also down on them on on him specifically because the team
• 53:45
  hated him. Try to treat.
• 53:46
  Him, I mean, he could still get treated.
• 53:48
  I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility.
• 53:50
  He also might be playing third line centre.
• 53:51
  The the the coach had a. Strength.
• 53:54
  Not much to write home. About the coach had an interview
• 53:55
  today where they were basically asking like Zibanejad playing on
• 53:59
  J's wing, how do we feel about it?
• 54:00
  And he basically said, obviously we're running with that right
• 54:03
  now and we'll see you like, you know, if that's the best
• 54:05
  decision moving forward or whatnot.
• 54:07
  Or if he basically said like hypothetically, if he was our
• 54:10
  third see, like I don't see any other team that has better than
• 54:13
  us, which is probably true, right?
• 54:14
  Trochaic JTS. Imagine down the middle.
• 54:16
  Is about being line 3 powerfully 1.
• 54:18
  Yep. And like but how good is that?
• 54:20
  Fine, but he's gonna get like no even strength.
• 54:22
  For that it feels like it's laughs job to lose though on
• 54:26
  power. Play one for now.
• 54:27
  I think he's a staple. I think they finally paid him.
• 54:30
  I think Kreider's gone. I feel like they need another
• 54:32
  winger there and I think he slots in perfectly.
• 54:34
  They wanted to take a jump. I totally, I totally agree.
• 54:37
  I just think if they're having some issues, he's going to be
• 54:39
  the first one to go. So if he does get bumped off
• 54:43
  power play one because I think that they're going to do that in
• 54:45
  favor of project before they zip off, I just think.
• 54:48
  That that's the way it wasn't good last year.
• 54:50
  No, but it was his worst year in awhile I will.
• 54:53
  Say, but it's also like his oldest year that he's had.
• 54:55
  Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, definitely.
• 54:57
  I'm less. I'm probably less low on him
• 55:00
  than you guys, but I'm also low. I'm not drafting him in the
• 55:02
  second round like that's. Not a thing, no.
• 55:03
  His ADP is much lower this year. He's gonna be like a fifth or
• 55:06
  sixth round. Pick Would you take him?
• 55:07
  There, no, I would ask. I wouldn't take him there
• 55:10
  either. I just think the surrounding
• 55:11
  guys I like better. Yeah, fair.
• 55:14
  I. Little office going much later.
• 55:15
  I'd rather, I'd rather have laugh.
• 55:17
  Yeah, I, I agree. I I see what you're saying it.
• 55:21
  Just I'd rather have cool you. I love will cooling.
• 55:24
  Yeah. Actually yeah.
• 55:25
  And you can get willfully like 8 rounds later.
• 55:28
  Probably he'll be like around 1314, yeah.
• 55:31
  Yeah, but nevertheless, I love the Rangers and the odd one out.
• 55:36
  It would suck to have him. Let's say the odd one out of Zib
• 55:41
  and Trojak. Trocheck is my.
• 55:43
  Favorite. Yes, exactly.
• 55:44
  Because he's so good at the back.
• 55:45
  Yeah, I would be scared. I love short check every year
• 55:49
  for bangers leagues. Like even if he doesn't have
• 55:50
  PP1, he's just a monster he has. Over the face off wins, but even
• 55:53
  without it, is he still? He hits 2.5 shots, 2.5 hits
• 55:57
  around 10 faceoff wins and he's getting you some points exposure
• 56:00
  to like he's pretty good at five on five production is pretty
• 56:02
  good playing with Karen and laugh.
• 56:04
  Yeah, this is one of those guys that every time I play a game,
• 56:06
  but I hate it, so I want him so badly this year so I never have
• 56:09
  to play. Again.
• 56:09
  Yeah. It just depends where you where
• 56:12
  he goes. Honestly, and he's just such an
• 56:14
  asset. JT Miller is the best person for
• 56:17
  categories and I would say points league people are.
• 56:21
  People don't know how to feel about J Miller because in our
• 56:25
  league specifically, he's like a first round.
• 56:26
  Pick because undervalued and leagues that aren't ours.
• 56:30
  I think our league people value where you should be.
• 56:32
  Yeah, I mean, Kevin's debating taking him.
• 56:34
  I don't wanna spoil for our draft.
• 56:36
  Order. He could be a the 6th or 7th
• 56:39
  overall pick if you hit face off wins and and Pimms and shots and
• 56:43
  hits. Yeah, for a league like that,
• 56:45
  like Jaguars, it's amazing. Yeah.
• 56:47
  You know, the one thing it feels like it was never happy in
• 56:51
  Vancouver, yet he was so good in Vancouver and now he's happy in
• 56:54
  New York. Will he still be good?
• 56:56
  You know it's. Like when you get in a
• 56:57
  relationship you gained like 20 lbs or whatever.
• 56:59
  Yeah exactly. Happy you can get like lazy and
• 57:02
  I just. Captain, you know you.
• 57:04
  Just made that I don't think. I don't either.
• 57:07
  But let's talk about #1. Yeah, All right.
• 57:10
  At numero Uno, we've got the Carolina Hurricanes.
• 57:13
  Last year they finished second. Yeah, it's the one team
• 57:16
  remaining. So last year they finished
• 57:19
  second. Josh and Kevin have them ranked
• 57:21
  at 2nd, and Jake has them ranked at first.
• 57:23
  Some notable players we've got Sebastian Aho, Seth Jarvis,
• 57:26
  Nikolai Eilers, Andre Svechnikov, Shayne Gostisbehere
• 57:29
  and Alexander Nikisha. I just tossed that in.
• 57:31
  And then I guess you can mention their goalies, Anderson and
• 57:34
  Kochetkov as. Well, and I was going to say
• 57:35
  future calling Hurricane Carol. So, and they're powerfully
• 57:39
  ranked 25th. That's actually.
• 57:42
  Is a fantasy terrorist. And yes, the fantasy terrorist.
• 57:47
  Yeah. So let me ask, if Kaprizov does
• 57:49
  go there, are we ranking them one all of us?
• 57:53
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 57:54
  Do you agree? Probably, yeah.
• 57:56
  I feel like you. Can 100%.
• 57:58
  I mean, obviously it depends what goes in return.
• 58:00
  We said the same thing about Rantanen and look how that went.
• 58:04
  I mean, they made it to the third round.
• 58:07
  They always make it a third round.
• 58:08
  They just, they just get wrecked.
• 58:09
  Swapped. Yeah.
• 58:10
  Yeah, this is a this is a just a really good IRL team that sucks
• 58:15
  for fantasy. We've been through this so many.
• 58:17
  Times good assets, but yeah, it definitely all these guys would
• 58:19
  do better if they were on a different team or coach by
• 58:21
  different. Person the main the main things
• 58:23
  I think for fantasy this year are I'm seeing special because
• 58:27
  ADB severely lower than it was last year.
• 58:30
  Like you can get him in the sixth or seventh round.
• 58:32
  Last year he was a third fourth round pick.
• 58:33
  Yeah, rightfully so, though I I think.
• 58:36
  I mean, it was, hasn't been. Get together people are stopping
• 58:39
  to believe in him. I like him though there 6-7
• 58:42
  that's a good spot to get him for his.
• 58:43
  Timo Meier under specially called this year.
• 58:46
  I would take smash. Both of these guys were third
• 58:48
  fourth round pick last year and now there are 6 seven round.
• 58:50
  Picked simply. Takes fetching as.
• 58:52
  Well, the Pimms. It's.
• 58:54
  Kind of what sets them apart from Meijer, and at least
• 58:57
  there's that, yeah. That's it too.
• 59:00
  He does those categories as well.
• 59:01
  Yeah, so. And even when he has his off
• 59:04
  years, he's gonna get you point 6.7 points per game.
• 59:07
  It just sucks because it seemed with Meyer where you just know
• 59:09
  their potential is so much higher.
• 59:11
  Yeah, Yeah. But now if you don't have to
• 59:12
  take them at that cost, then it's a.
• 59:14
  Yeah, in the Discord community, one of one of the members asked
• 59:17
  us about Nikishin. So I will say that's worth
• 59:20
  talking about because it's definitely.
• 59:22
  Has a lot of upside. Exciting guy.
• 59:24
  Yeah, I mean exhausters. Bingers guy, he's gonna hidden
• 59:27
  block which I'm seeing which is really nice.
• 59:30
  I don't see him getting power play 1.
• 59:32
  I. Just don't see if it happens.
• 59:34
  It won't be until at least halfway through the season.
• 59:36
  The thing is we saw Ghost gets that happened.
• 59:38
  I'm not saying it's going to be consistent thing, but I don't I
• 59:40
  don't think if they're if they're seeing bright flashes
• 59:44
  from Nikishin, first of all, they're epileptic doctor, but.
• 59:50
  Also, but I wouldn't be surprised if.
• 59:52
  They want to, like, revel in that.
• 59:54
  Like development I guess. OK fine, if ghost loses power
• 59:59
  play. One, he's not going to be on the
• 1:00:01
  team. Let's just say that you're not
• 1:00:02
  gonna play him. And he's probably one they
• 1:00:05
  haven't for the power play. Exactly.
• 1:00:06
  So if they don't put on power play 1, they're like.
• 1:00:08
  OK, this is a failed experiment. We're done with him, which could
• 1:00:11
  happen, but he's definitely gonna get the chance to start
• 1:00:13
  out because his only use the team is his power play and
• 1:00:16
  Nikisha is also a rookie who has to work his way forward.
• 1:00:20
  And once. When has Rod ever done anything
• 1:00:23
  that's nice for fantasy? Great to get Nikisha and then
• 1:00:27
  becomes. Power play one in a bank he.
• 1:00:28
  Becomes like a most sider Mackenzie Weegar, you know?
• 1:00:30
  Yeah, but but when is Rod ever helped us out?
• 1:00:32
  So the only guys that are immune to the rock curse are Sebastian,
• 1:00:35
  Aho and Seth. Jarvis, like how much to say?
• 1:00:37
  Like Aho is still a top producer.
• 1:00:38
  Jarvis still a top producer. Think healers.
• 1:00:41
  I was going to say like, obviously Aho.
• 1:00:43
  And Jarvis are the safest. Guys like they also have the
• 1:00:45
  shorthanded production, which is really, really nice for things
• 1:00:48
  that have shorthanded points. Like they're so reliable.
• 1:00:50
  Jarvis is one of my favorite players in the league.
• 1:00:53
  He was like a fantasy stud for me last year.
• 1:00:55
  I've never had Aho, but he's 1-2 Ellers is the big question.
• 1:00:58
  We saw Euler's finally break out with that P1 role on Winnipeg
• 1:01:02
  last year and he thrived. Yeah, then he gets treated like
• 1:01:05
  just sign signs, two different. I'm not touching him personally.
• 1:01:08
  I'm also scared. Exact.
• 1:01:10
  Type of player that Rod suffocates.
• 1:01:11
  It is. Exactly, I almost feel like he's
• 1:01:14
  just not good. Enough to be there.
• 1:01:15
  Do you know what? I mean, what do you mean?
• 1:01:16
  I feel like if he was a little bit better, I'd be more worried.
• 1:01:19
  And he's just like not elite enough that maybe he could be
• 1:01:22
  OK. Like Stankovic.
• 1:01:23
  You know, Stankovic was better on Carolina than he was on
• 1:01:26
  Dallas. Brandon was an abomination.
• 1:01:28
  Yeah, you know what I mean. Like.
• 1:01:30
  Ranting is way too good. I almost feel like Kaprizov is
• 1:01:32
  better than ranting and enough that he could succeed.
• 1:01:35
  Yeah, you know the ranting on the ice.
• 1:01:38
  On the ice, who know? I think, yeah.
• 1:01:41
  I've got a fun. I've got a.
• 1:01:44
  Fun. Seth Jarvis, would you rather
• 1:01:45
  for both of you guys? Yeah, it's a different one.
• 1:01:47
  For each of you, tailored, tailor made, I'll start with
• 1:01:50
  Kevin, Seth Jarvis or Brandon Hagel.
• 1:01:54
  Give me Hagel. OK?
• 1:01:55
  Wow. But it's closed.
• 1:01:56
  They're 80. It's very close.
• 1:01:58
  To me, I think I'm just a believer.
• 1:01:59
  In the Hagel P1, yeah. So if Hagel doesn't have P1,
• 1:02:03
  let's say like we go into this we know is gonna be two.
• 1:02:05
  I'd go that Travis. OK, I'm also going Hagel out of
• 1:02:08
  those two. I think it's super.
• 1:02:09
  Close Jakey, Seth Jarvis or Marty Nagis.
• 1:02:13
  This will no doubt. I think that. 1 is a very close
• 1:02:16
  as. Well, I didn't wait to talk
• 1:02:18
  about Colorado. And the central discussion, like
• 1:02:21
  I am the surprise #0 say I started.
• 1:02:25
  Like now that we found out our draft positions, I've started
• 1:02:27
  looking. At where my picks land.
• 1:02:30
  And so I'm seeing different clusters of players.
• 1:02:32
  And so those three guys were in a cluster altogether and they're
• 1:02:34
  all gonna get picked within a few pics of each other.
• 1:02:37
  And so that's why it's like the third round, both of you guys,
• 1:02:39
  third, fourth round. Yeah.
• 1:02:40
  I think it's, I think I'm seeing that.
• 1:02:42
  As round. Early round 4 I'm super high on
• 1:02:45
  anxious though. That's a fair.
• 1:02:47
  Question. That's why I asked you both,
• 1:02:48
  because I know he's Kevin. Super high on your super.
• 1:02:50
  On inches but I love always sound drivers is sick.
• 1:02:53
  I love how drivers centre. Yeah.
• 1:02:54
  I mean, I think it's awesome. The reasons, all three
• 1:02:57
  eligibilities, Yeah, the reason I think that.
• 1:02:59
  This team is so good is simply because.
• 1:03:00
  They have the best Corp and the league.
• 1:03:02
  Can you say that? It's almost there.
• 1:03:04
  One of the best at least Carolina.
• 1:03:05
  Yeah, as a real like an. IRL not.
• 1:03:10
  Sleeping is arguably the best defensive.
• 1:03:14
  Sean Walker is pretty good too. Yeah, you know, should be good.
• 1:03:17
  Yeah. So.
• 1:03:19
  That I wouldn't say I honestly. Wouldn't say it's the best
• 1:03:21
  decor. In the team, the haves have a
• 1:03:23
  sick decor. It's not to be real with
• 1:03:27
  Buffalo, honestly, yeah. Buffalo what you've got.
• 1:03:31
  Darlene Power, Byram Kesselring. Yeah, that's.
• 1:03:34
  Yeah. So what's the one thing they
• 1:03:36
  paid? Samuelson?
• 1:03:37
  Yeah. So sick decor.
• 1:03:39
  Coach that wins. A lot of games you'd think it
• 1:03:41
  would be super great to have one of these goalies.
• 1:03:44
  Just which one? I think it's finally the year
• 1:03:47
  that has passed to him. Wow, that sucks, but it's true.
• 1:03:52
  It's fair. Listen, I know you guys have
• 1:03:53
  them at one. I have them at 2:00.
• 1:03:55
  I could see. Them finishing third, I have
• 1:03:56
  them at 2:00 as well. Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  So Jasmine one. Yeah, yeah, I can see.
• 1:03:59
  Them finishing third. Behind the two New York teams, I
• 1:04:02
  would not be shocked. New York, I had the Rangers
• 1:04:04
  ahead of them because I can just see the offence like.
• 1:04:05
  Not clicking properly and then like.
• 1:04:08
  Really liking there the power play wasn't anything like crazy
• 1:04:11
  either right so that was 25th. So there you go.
• 1:04:14
  I think that this is a very good team made-up of.
• 1:04:16
  One superstar who is the only superstar.
• 1:04:19
  I think they have a bunch of very decent players, like
• 1:04:22
  they're just really good, but they don't have to get over the
• 1:04:24
  hump day I. I will say that until I see it
• 1:04:27
  to win, like I don't think they're a top team in the
• 1:04:30
  Eastern. Conference thing is great at
• 1:04:32
  getting swept in the conference finals, yeah.
• 1:04:34
  Really good at that I. Would put them second or third.
• 1:04:36
  I would never put them like. As the best team here and I just
• 1:04:38
  like I think all the other teams have a better chance of being
• 1:04:41
  the best team if that makes sense.
• 1:04:43
  I think to be fair though, also they're just a bit.
• 1:04:45
  Unexciting and the fact that rod suppresses a lot of the yeah fun
• 1:04:49
  players so this is the one thing that lower of it them than there
• 1:04:53
  actually. Should be.
• 1:04:54
  So I get what he puts them at 1:00 because there can real
• 1:04:57
  life, they're consistent, they're a really good team.
• 1:04:59
  He's a great coach for real life, but it's a little less
• 1:05:01
  exciting for fantasy. But I think we should wrap it
• 1:05:04
  up. There was a long one last thing.
• 1:05:06
  Do you guys like Jackson? Blake or Stankovic?
• 1:05:08
  More this year. Think of.
• 1:05:10
  You mean P1 Jackson Blake. You mean follow that money,
• 1:05:13
  Jackson? Blake, I'll just think, OK,
• 1:05:14
  wait. One day we didn't actually
• 1:05:15
  mention Taylor Hall. I feel like he could be a.
• 1:05:18
  Good. I feel like he could be like a
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  real interest in having on my team.
• 1:05:21
  He could be the guy who drives like around. 18 I would.
• 1:05:24
  Never do no OK my opinion on he was pretty.
• 1:05:26
  Good last year that. He's going to get.
• 1:05:27
  You 0 back cats so. All he's good for his points.
• 1:05:30
  And he's not on Power Play 1. And there's just so many players
• 1:05:33
  ahead, about just 30. Cotton Yami.
• 1:05:35
  No, that is. Name I'd be happy to never hear
• 1:05:37
  again. He makes this team next year.
• 1:05:40
  I think he's gonna. Get rid of it like I could
• 1:05:43
  already tell. He's gonna be.
• 1:05:44
  Playing for, like some sort of like, finished logo that I just
• 1:05:48
  don't recognize this year. I just kept saying, like, a
• 1:05:51
  bunch of players go to the sea. But I was like, what's this like
• 1:05:53
  Russian team, this guy. All right, now it's the Mammoth.
• 1:05:56
  But yeah, he's gonna he's not going to be in the NHL, I don't
• 1:05:59
  think, past this year. All right, that wraps it up for
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  the breakdown of the Metropolitan Division.
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  A real fun one, a little spicier than I thought it'd be honest.
• 1:06:08
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• 1:06:29
  central division where we could talk about my sweet Prince Marty
• 1:06:32
  matches. That was weird.
• 1:06:34
  No, actually, I love you. Alright, Ernie.
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  Take it away Bob it about bound banger management fantasy hockey
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  podcast. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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