Latest / Aussie Bourbon Lovers / Vanilla Gorilla & Kentucky Festival Tips: Burton James Single Barrel Wheated Bourbon
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- 0:03Incredible flavors, even better stories. One Pour,
- 0:0610 Minutes. Aussie bourbon lovers sharing bourbon with Australia.
- 0:14Oh, got a little pot there, Dave. Pretty pleased with that. Welcome.
- 0:19Welcome indeed. What are we having tonight, H? Oh, we're having a Burton James this
- 0:23evening. It's a single barrel weighted bourbon,
- 0:29and it's the, it's the Barrel 101. It's the 107.6
- 0:33proof. They always write, handwrite the labels of the, of the single barrels.
- 0:37Cheers. Cheers. If you, if you're listening
- 0:41to that, hopefully you can hear that these are the mini Glencairns.
- 0:45Yes, they are. They're from the Kentucky Bourbon Festival. Why is this,
- 0:49H? Why are we drinking from such a small glass? Well, in a month's time,
- 0:52Dave, we'll be packing our bags heading over to KBF.
- 0:57So we wanted to give our listeners a few hot tips
- 1:00on, you know, if they ever want to go. Before we get too much into
- 1:04that, can I just run through the stats of this and just talk about what
- 1:07we're getting here? So Sean McDonald, who is
- 1:11the distiller at Burton James, we, we love Sean so
- 1:15much and we're excited to see him when we head over in a month's time,
- 1:18thereabouts. Handwrites on these swing tags
- 1:23exactly what's in there. 51% corn, 45% wheat, 4% malted barley,
- 1:28distilled in Indiana. It's 10 years old. It was made on the—
- 1:33well, you know, in— it's going to be April 2015.
- 1:37I nearly read that the Australian way and it made 175 bottles
- 1:41and it was dumped in 2025. And I love the fact of those of you
- 1:45that are watching this, that it's literally like written on the back of a baseball
- 1:48card. Like, it's really cool. That is, that is super cool.
- 1:51Baseball card and then all the info's on the back. I love it. That nose,
- 1:56lovely caramelly kind of creamy nose.
- 2:00Creamy, creamy caramel. Yeah. That weird?
- 2:04No, that's that smoothness that you get with it.
- 2:08So much flavor. Yeah. So much vanilla goodness.
- 2:12I love it. Would you say the nose matches the taste when it comes to
- 2:15this one? Because it's definitely got a beautiful nose on it. It is not disaggregated
- 2:19as— You love using that word now that you know what it means. Aggregated.
- 2:23Is that what— like, what's happening? And then that the
- 2:26wait, because this was, this was last week's episode, see, because of
- 2:30the dry July thing. Oh, we're back. I know we're back. We're back live
- 2:34again, people, after a month of— No, not— I don't think
- 2:38anyone's listening to us right now. No, but like, we're back in sync.
- 2:41Correct. Our last few episodes have been throwback episodes.
- 2:46Oh, July. Very good. I know we get a bottle of
- 2:50the first Kentucky Bourbon Festival we ever went to. We stumbled
- 2:54across the Burton James stall and
- 2:57I'm not sure that's actually true. It is. It was the one before last.
- 3:01We've been to a few. But anyway, go on. I thought it was the first
- 3:04one because we've only got, what, 3 bottles now? 2? I think we've only had
- 3:072. I'm happy to be wrong anyway.
- 3:11When we came across it every year since we bought our first bottle, we've gone
- 3:15back and bought a bottle from that stall because it's
- 3:19always a winner. I'm so happy with this. David Drickhouse called
- 3:23this his vanilla gorilla. Yeah. When after— because we pointed
- 3:27to it, we said, go over and have a— you've got to go and have
- 3:30a check out Burton James. And I think more than just us were saying that
- 3:34because this is what happens at the Kentucky Bourbon Festival. It was
- 3:38one of the bottled picks of the Festival because they always just
- 3:41do such great flavors. They do great flavors. All right, come on then. So the
- 3:45thing that I said to you before is we want to do 3
- 3:49each top tips for people who are heading to KBF,
- 3:53whether they're Australians or not. Well, I've written a pretty big list, but I
- 3:57think gentlemen would allow the ladies to go first just in case I steal
- 4:00some of yours. What are your, what are your top 3 tips for someone who's
- 4:04thinking about heading over to Kentucky, to Bardstown, in that
- 4:07What's that going to be, the second weekend of September? Yep. My first tip would
- 4:10be don't rush. Enjoy it. Like, people get there really early,
- 4:14queue up. Obviously, if you're someone who's there for specific bottles,
- 4:18that's— there's definitely part of the crowd that's there for that.
- 4:21And if that's you, go for gold. But if you're there to actually
- 4:25just enjoy the festival, my advice would be don't rush.
- 4:29Like, head in, go around
- 4:33the smaller distilleries, go to the big ones. Pick the ones that don't have
- 4:36queues. Yeah, just go slow.
- 4:39Like, you don't need a rush and you don't need to queue
- 4:43if you don't like there for specific things. So this is
- 4:47such sound advice. And one of the things that I've already kind of visualized in
- 4:51my mind is that when the gates open on the Friday morning, what's it going
- 4:54to be? Is it going to be midday? I think that's right. Midday. We won't
- 4:58be standing in that queue that's going to go around and around the block.
- 5:00We'll be sitting down at— we'll be at Chicken Cock or somewhere in Bardstown.
- 5:05We'll find somewhere nice. We're having a cocktail and we'll be waiting for the queue
- 5:08to die down because there's no need to rush if you're not chasing bottles.
- 5:12This is— if you're chasing bottles, I can understand why you want to be in
- 5:15there as quick as you can. But if you're not chasing really crazy bottles,
- 5:18don't rush. Don't stress yourself with standing in a queue unless you're really looking to
- 5:22meet lots of people in the queue and stuff, which is cool as well.
- 5:23But you meet lots of people inside too. We love the idea of just taking
- 5:27it easy, wait till the queue dies down and, and meander in and enjoy
- 5:31it because it's so much, so much fun. My other 2 tips would
- 5:35be stop past St Joey's for the steak sandwich. Tip number 2. I had
- 5:39steak sandwich written down as well. I knew you would, Dave. It's always— last year
- 5:43I was really nervous that because I was like, I was going to go back.
- 5:45I was like, the first time we had it was the best that I thought
- 5:48I'd built it up in my head how good it was, that I was going
- 5:51to be disappointed. But I wasn't. It was great. So definitely go grab a steak
- 5:54sandwich. And there's lots of great food trucks and stuff there so you can eat
- 5:57during the day, pace yourself out. And the last one was
- 6:02as you go around the different distillers and stalls and
- 6:06everything, ask questions and listen to the stories because it's easy to get
- 6:10caught up in trying everything and tasting all the flavors and all
- 6:14that, trying to get through as much as you can, but just stop
- 6:18and listen and Like, to me, it's the stories
- 6:21behind each of the bottles that we tasted that I loved the most.
- 6:24Like, and meeting the people, it's like, it's the people. I think if you followed
- 6:28the Kentucky Bourbon Festival thing, particularly on social media for a few years,
- 6:32you probably saw, I think particularly last year,
- 6:35but it happens all the time and it's true of all bourbon culture.
- 6:39But there was this great kind of set of posts where people
- 6:43were talking about what's the greatest thing about Kentucky Bourbon Festival. And there's this lovely
- 6:46motif of it's the people is the thing.
- 6:49And stopping and taking time to chat
- 6:53and meet people. And it doesn't matter whether they're a
- 6:57master distiller from a distillery, you know, or a rep or just another
- 7:00bourbon fan from somewhere nearby or far away,
- 7:03or whether there's someone who's cooking the barbecue or something.
- 7:06The people in the community and around bourbon are bloody
- 7:11amazing and we love meeting them and they're That's what makes it so cool.
- 7:15And, you know, the bourbon's cool as well, but the people is what absolutely makes
- 7:18it sing. So yeah, the people stopping and listening to stories. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing.
- 7:21They're my top 3 tips. Dave, what have you got that you can— you're allowed
- 7:24more than 3, but can you squeeze it into a few minutes? I'll see how
- 7:27I go. So actually, one of mine near the top was actually around
- 7:32water. You can, you can easily, if you haven't
- 7:36done, because it's so much fun and the structure of it's so cool and interesting
- 7:40and different to a lot of other whiskey festivals you get to do. As someone
- 7:43who really likes whiskey festivals and going to somewhere where they give you a glass
- 7:46as you walk in and then you've got access to a lot of pours,
- 7:49pacing yourself and drinking water and having breaks and stuff is actually really important.
- 7:53So you can really do it really well because if you don't, you cook yourself
- 7:57early and you'll make a mess of it. Mini dry jellies throughout the day.
- 8:00They have these great big water stations where you can get
- 8:04top up your water bottles and get lots of water. So drinking water, taking breaks,
- 8:08that's a, that's an easy one. Helps you get the best out of the day.
- 8:11Yeah, you have, you have fun. And then I think maybe that's linked to that.
- 8:14I'm going to bundle this into one is, is that— and
- 8:17this is only really something that I've started to get better at— is it's
- 8:22okay if you don't, unless you're really loving something,
- 8:25it's okay to sample it, get a really good understanding of it, and then what's
- 8:29left in your glass doesn't have to end up in your mouth. You don't actually
- 8:32have to drink everything that's poured for you. I felt so bad the first time
- 8:36that I, I was— it was one of the days I went, I was driving,
- 8:38and so I would have a a little sample and then obviously
- 8:42I'd have to tip the rest out and I just felt so guilty.
- 8:45But it's true, you can get some of the flavor and not drink the
- 8:48beautiful pours they give you. Because as bourbon nerds, we often
- 8:53will be trying not just the stuff that's 80 proof or 90
- 8:56proof. We'll be trying the, the high proof stuff. There's a lot of barrel proof,
- 9:00single barrels, all that kind of stuff, and they're high proof and you're getting,
- 9:03you know, a lot of alcohol in your glass over and over.
- 9:06And If no one was stopping you from doing anything, you could be drinking really
- 9:11high-proof whiskies a lot and a lot of it. Yeah, but then you wouldn't get
- 9:14the most out of the day to pace yourself. Yeah. Yeah. And so it's just
- 9:16sensible. And next up, Dave, my next one is a bit,
- 9:19a bit wacky actually. And I don't know if anyone else does it the way
- 9:22that I do this. I actually think it's a good idea to take notes.
- 9:26Oh yeah, I take, I take copious notes. He does.
- 9:30And I just, I have to admit, to start with, I was like, okay,
- 9:32Dave, But then when you're going back after 3 days of
- 9:36like sampling all this stuff, it's really handy to have notes
- 9:40that you've— you just record them. So yeah, so I use,
- 9:44I use Notion on my phone platform, but you can handwrite them if
- 9:48you want or you can put— use the Notes app in your phone or whatever.
- 9:49But it's about sorted by distillery and what bottles we've tried and liked and then
- 9:53stories from the distilleries and all that kind of stuff. I love it because you
- 9:56learn so many cool things, but I love— often go back and we'll listen and
- 9:59be like, oh, totally forgot that. And especially as parts of the stories because You
- 10:03hear so many great stories that you remember bits of the stories that
- 10:07you've recorded in the notes afterwards from different distilleries and fun facts
- 10:11that by the time you've done 3 days of it, you've— it all blends into
- 10:14one fabulous thing. My other one is about transport,
- 10:17getting from where you're staying to— tricky one— the
- 10:21Kentucky Bourbon Festival, because in the past few years we've
- 10:25tried— there's been some complexity. We often stay in Louisville. Yeah. And this year
- 10:29they're doing ticketed shuttles, which I'm excited about the prospect of how good this
- 10:33can be. We'll report back about how this goes because we've had
- 10:37different varying levels of success with that. But this year I'm hopeful for how good
- 10:40it's going to be. But the shuttle is a good one. If you— I think
- 10:43you still get shuttle tickets. So if you haven't got shuttle tickets and you're staying
- 10:45in Louisville, I think they get good value and will absolutely make
- 10:49your day better. Yeah, but make sure you know how you're going to get there
- 10:52and get home. It's a good one. So you don't have to worry about it.
- 10:54It's basically— let someone do the hard work for you. I've done more than 3.
- 10:58Can I keep going? Yes. My next one is to ask silly questions. You kind
- 11:01of said this already, but be curious, ask silly questions, and don't be
- 11:04worried about asking silly questions. Yeah, because I think a lot of us don't know
- 11:08anywhere near as much as a lot of other people know. But there's also a
- 11:10lot of people who know less or more than that, and it's totally fine to
- 11:14ask silly questions and good questions and that people want to
- 11:17share it. You learn stuff. What's the worst that can happen, that they tell you
- 11:21something you already know? Great. Like chatting with someone cool over
- 11:25a bourbon. What a great good outcome. Be curious. That's a good one,
- 11:28Dave. Awesome. And, uh, and I think that the
- 11:32best ultimate one is to just relax and enjoy it because it is such a—
- 11:37in, in our, in our calendar, in the 365 days we get for every
- 11:41year, these are 3 of our favorite days without a doubt.
- 11:44And relax and enjoy it and have fun and meet awesome people and
- 11:48enjoy great whiskey. It's pretty fun. And you might even find a bottle that's as
- 11:51good as this one from From Burton James. Thanks, Sean. Cheers.
- 11:55Cheers.
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