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Two Mary Morrises Were Murdered 4 Days Apart... Then Things Got Stranger · True Crime Never Sleeps

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello and welcome to all new episode of Cold Case Friday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Today we're diving into the Merry Morris murderers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not interesting unless you're me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're here for two crap, and that's why today, we have the Mary Muller's murders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is gonna be hard to read.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just crack on with it, shall we?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the whole point of that story in the beginning that no one was interested in is, let me review if you can, it actually helps get people discovered by more people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every now and then, a criminal case comes along is truly stranger than fiction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Today, we're exploring one such story, a compelling mystery from the turn of the millennium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Equal parts out inish and intriguing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be going through all the facts and prevailing theories on how to normal women met horrific unexplained ends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are the Mary Morse murders, and duo of cases which gave investigators in Texas, a bad case, they shall reveal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The women with the exact same name turned up dead in similar fashion and days of each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: where these two violent deaths, a case of incredible coincidents, or was there something even more sinister going on?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I don't know how many murders take place in Texas, like on a daily basis or within a few days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That would probably help me get an idea of how uncommon murder is in Texas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then also, I don't know how many Mary Morris's there are, seems like a fairly common name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there would be a lot of Mary Morris's anyways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, in the early morning of October 12th, 2000, carrying Lou Henderson Morris, left her home and Baytown texted us to drive to work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The 48-year-old was a loan officer at Chase Banking Houston, about a 30-minute drive for rails.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That day, the bank would have to go short-staff, somewhere between our office and home, Mary disappeared.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Her co-workers started calling around, but nobody knew where she was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The last person who had seen her was her husband, Jay Morris, when she left the door at 6am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: While I heard that day, he would receive a worse name as imaginable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mary's Chevy Lumina had been found burned out, and abandoned by the side of her remote road, about three miles from her health, and a wrong direction from Houston.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was a potty in the front seat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The remains were so badly burned that identification would take some time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but it was safe to assume that it was Mary Morris.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Her condition also made it impossible to determine the cause of death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Suffice to say, Belfay was suspected, but even more puzzling was the motive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was just a regular woman, a low-knopster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine Mary Lou Henderson, who was 48 years old, is gonna be some sort of, or they call, collector's bailiff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't seen like this person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mary had no enemies that anyone knew of, and Robbery seemed unlikely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were pieces of jewelry melted onto the remains, meaning the killer wasn't bothered about taking them with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing missing was her purse in wedding ring, neither Jay nor Mary's ex-husband deemed likely suspects as they were compliant from the outset, leaving the authorities stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if the husband's compliance and stuff that just means he's thought it through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Seeing enough CSI have watched enough true crime shows,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's stick with the horror, but I get the feeling he's actually innocent today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just four days after the death of Mary Morris, Mary, uh, making his Morris was found dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's what this isn't uh, um, excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a copy and paste there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Mary Lee Morris hadn't made a miraculous reappearance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was an entirely different woman who happened to share the same first and last name on top of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The circumstances were the best or strikingly
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mary McGinnis Morris from 39 which found just 25 miles away from the first crime scene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and the whole Texas that's extremely close together is really pushing this to be not a coincidence anymore if it happens somewhere really far away on the other side of Texas is absolutely massive like I've seen that thing where they take Texas and they overlay it on the entire continent of Europe you're like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God, Texas is big.
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[SPEAKER_00]: America is really big.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like the first victim, she was found in her car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: By the side of the road and her wedding ring was missing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely no coincidence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And trained I might have looked at it like a suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mary had died from a gunshot wound using a weapon with sure husband had recently landed her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's plenty of suggest otherwise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mary's clothes were torn at pieces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cruises on her wrists that adjusted her struggle and cloth fibers in her mouth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, the fact that the passenger to side door was left open with keys outside the car, and it's a little wonder, a medical examiner determined that Barry was in fact murdered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to make matters stranger and seem to the victim may have had an inclination that our life was in danger and the lead up toward demise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mary number two worked as a nurse over seeing several clinics where a pharmaceutical company named Union Carbide in Houston.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jimmy was a friend, Laurie Gammolett, one of these clinics on the 16th to give her an allergy shot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not long after the two parted ways, Mary called Laurie from a drug store, telling her that there was a man giving her a creeps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was about 5.30 pm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The poignant was to return to work, clock out, and head home for dinner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's some 15 minutes later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mary made another phone call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This time, to 911.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Detective Wayne Coleman from the Harris County Sheriff's Department, described the tape to the papers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not releasing the content of the tape.
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[SPEAKER_00]: covers the attack that happened to Mary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody that's ever heard that tape?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's had their blood chilled listening to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very chilling, disturbing call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our body was found several hours later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's one of those things I'm curious what's on there, but I'm glad I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like ISIS-be hitting videos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know they exist, I mean, I'm not even curious about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just got no desire to see that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was horrible things on the internet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was something called Run the Gauntlet, which I've heard of vaguely, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks to some other punk assures, talking about it where it's just progressively more horrible videos, and I'm like, I am absolutely not as hired to watch that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would I?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm just going to have those stuck in my mind forever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have two Mary Morris's murdered in the same way, just a short distance apart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Surely that's too much of a coincidence, especially when the circumstances were so eerily similar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was there a serial killer out there with a very, very specific victim profile?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or was there some thread as yet unfold in which length of two women?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thankfully, the second case offered far more to chew on than the first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have some idea of what might have happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The co-worker, first suspect was a fellow nurse at Mary's workplace in Gwainia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The two had a very poor relationship since they started working there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: With Dame Gwain, he reportedly trying to smear Mary's reputation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on the same day that the first Mary Morris died in there after a new Mary too discovered something out of place in our office.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Picture frames are turned over among other things so this going young seems like maybe he knew that the first Mary Morris was murdered if he's smart he could be like I know someone called Mary Morris and if I murder her in the same way they're definitely gonna think it's connected to the first one and charge the guy who gets busted for the first one but this one as well but then what if they don't they don't care
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[SPEAKER_00]: So working theory number one, honestly not a very good theory, but I don't know what you guys are thinking if I'm way off here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When she went to confront her office, Nemesis about it, he are already left.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But she got a glimpse of something worrying, scribbled on her desk calendar, death, her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was actually the reason Mary Barrow, the gun from her husband in the first place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Murray that Dwayne might come get revenge for what happened the following day after being reprimanded for the alleged harassment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was escorted out of the building screaming and shouting all the while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some reports say he quit, some say that he was fired out right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever the case, Mary was terrified that the threat on the calendar might be carried out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she asked her husband to lend her the handgun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she doesn't know him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She would say if it was Duane right, it's very confusing when they're both called the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this was the second Mary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess it can't be Duane or can it be?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he paid someone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm just confusing myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The same gun remained tucked under her driver's seat for several days until it was ultimately used to end her life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because the disgruntled X co-worker beat a one who used a new gangster, let's not all rush to condemn Blaine just yet, because there's another suspicious person to take a look into.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unlike Neri No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 1's partner, Neri No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2's husband Mike became a prime suspect in a killing from the outset.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When interviewed by the police, he said that he was at the movies when his daughter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but he wouldn't let the cops speak to the little girl to confirm this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On top of that, Mike refused to take a polygraph test and voyered up before being officially identified as a suspect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to say, if they were like, take a polygraph test for something, polygraph tests are basically pseudo science.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why they still use it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're accurate, like 51% of the time or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd be very nervous if I was innocent of a crime taking a polygraph test.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to get it wrong half the time, and you guys are so crazy as well, I'm going to make up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Backfield, I'm not actually guilty of, because I'm nervous, nervous at the polygraphs going to get it wrong, because I get it wrong a lot of the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: None of this proves guilt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When it's an uncomplient, definitely raises a few suspicions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was also found that Mike and Mary had been having some rare lawsuits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: According to Friends of Italy, he and her fault are several times in the belief that she was having an affair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and even confronted her about his suspicions on before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As a possible, the mic ended his wife's life out of jealousy and tried to make it look like the suicide to more easily claim that hefty 700,000 life insurance payout.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more likely to pay if someone's murdered rather than they commit suicide, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you're committing suicide, it's like you're choosing a die.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you know that it's going to be insurance payout, which seems a little more sketchy than someone getting murdered, and then insurance paying out, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The icing on the cake of this theory is a four minute phone call, log from Mike cell phone to Mary, it's 711 p.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was about an hour and a half after Mary called then one one to report her own kidnapping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was this Mike checking in for a status update from Mary's killer, or perhaps a final goodbye to the woman herself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Both are pretty chilling prospects, but all we can really do is speculate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike never really offered any real explanation for the call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just said that it was a mistake on the part of the phone company.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see it only let the phone ring out for four minutes with no answer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then according to the company, he wouldn't have shown up on the records at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that is a big excuse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, yeah, it was a bank error phone company error.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And unlike Lee Coincidence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those might sound like some pretty tantalizing leads, but unfortunately, that's as far as the investigation in a Mary Morris's number two's death ever went.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll leave it up to you to decide where this specializes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's Mike really just acting in his own best interest by keeping away from the investigation and could the vengefulness of an ex-co-worker actually be to blame?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The most importantly of all, how the hell does any of this relate to the poor banking play and poise found dead just a few days before?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the answer might lie in the missing wedding rings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This little detail has video and speculation that the Mary Morris murders were part of the same calculated part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So another theory that either the husband or this Dwayne chap hired a hitman to take care of Mary Morris and hitman got it wrong and killed the wrong Mary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then phone them and was like, yo, yo, yo, I'm ready for my other half of the pavement or however, if I just work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're like, oh no, what are you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mary is in the other room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, shoot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not this again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has to go kill her again to get paid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There he is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Staying again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This little detail has fueled speculation that the Mary Morris murders are part of the same calculated block.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say calculated block.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I really mean are rifically miscalculated wonder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, in making cases, a missing millennium ring is a hallmark of a contract killer, or a token used to prove that the D has been carried out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the threat and tying these two cases together may be one of the most unfortunate cases of a stake in identity ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I mean, it is one of very most number two's enemies didn't fact hire a hitman in their life, then it's possible the killer just won a hand killed the wrong damn Mary the first time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to Whitman, which could be the cause of case mistake and identity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially if the killer was a hired professional, going only on a name and a photo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Aside from the Mary Morris Moniker, they also cherished similar from her haircut, white complexion and city of residence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're only two, 25 miles apart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those two bodies, yeah, they live close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This theory is backed up by an anecdote from a original Jews friend, Laurie Gimmel, looking at the mysterious phone call was made to the Houston Chronicle on the 13th
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's quoted as staying, quote, a call came into the Houston Chronicle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have a very verified this with somebody at the Chronicle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Between the time, the first Mary Morris was killed, and it's time for my friend to kill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Saying something to the effect that they got the wrong Mary Morris the first time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't even verified, but if it's true, someone would knowledge of the crime.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been dropping a hint to the press.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That the killer hadn't made a mess of air.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Imagine the scene for a moment, standing where the body was victim.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It occult and poured it, let them know the job is done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mary Morris is dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wine goes silent for a moment, as the husband turns around to look at his life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sitting, safe and sound on the sofa, very much like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you sure?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, at least they didn't have a funny story to share at all the contract killer conventions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I should warn you that before we finish, this is not the official account of events according to police.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Without any definitive evidence tying together the two crimes, they maintain that the whole thing is just a wild-kitten windstance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two unconnected crimes linked together holding by freakish and probabilities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the odds of this are tiny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're similar looking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're both killed in the same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They live very close to each other and they're killed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These occurred 10 years apart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People will be like serial killer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are linked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they occurred within a few days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At least again, what does that come off?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or you make it pure mind either way, we've got a few last piece of evidence for each of the main theories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First up, like Morse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we return to the wedding ring for a second, there's a compelling anecdote which supports the idea, then it may have been returned to Mike Morse after his wife's death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Several months later, a family friend was visiting for dinner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They realized that Mike Star was wearing the deceased woman's wedding ring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As Mike about it, he told him that Mary wasn't actually wearing it, she was killed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: at the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was this evidence that he was in contact with the person who lifted the ring from Mary's body?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or just a sad symptom of their marital problems?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Perhaps one of the biggest problems of all with this story for me is if you're playing with a person killed by a hitman, like arm them with a handkerchief, because you can just try to make the hitman really work for his paycheck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it wasn't the husband.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it was this Dwayne dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I mean, it was Dwayne, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't Mike, he wrote, she's gonna die or whatever on a computer screen, and just, I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dwayne or whatever, and it hasn't been convicted, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So all this definitely, allegedly, my opinion, it seems this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dwayne, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if not Mike, then what about Dwayne?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know exactly one information that police hold on the suspect, but it doesn't suggest that they know much more than they have, that's far alone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of a very fact that Dwayne Young has never been officially ruled out, suggesting absence of an alibi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which on top of his clear motive means we cannot rule him out either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why didn't they pursue this Dwayne guy more?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that the end of the day?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mary's, Mary number two's husband.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did that suspiciously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's just protected don't forget to download because his wife is suspicious and murdered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyone want to take up all of the graphic and polygraphs with Flon?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're an unfortunate victim of circumstance, then you would surely understand how bad this two situation will look for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Guilty or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Given the problems he and his wife had, plenty of intelligent innocent people have taken the advice to lawyers when they say that shutting up is often the best thing to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, dude, there's a brilliant video on YouTube and all about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's this, we're going to do a video where it's like, reasons you shouldn't talk to the police.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, yeah, kind of expense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're trying to think that they did do it, but they didn't do it, but I'd be like, I'll shut the fuck up until I get a lawyer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When the case started during her rounds in the early days of the online true crime community,
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[SPEAKER_00]: white and apparently made a habit of defending herself with the forms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He maintained his innocence, claiming that he never made any threats against Mary's life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Instead, through his suspicion back to the husband, as well as Laurie Gimmel, one of his most public users.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She is quoted as saying in reference to Mary too, quote, she told me that she was afraid of this person that she worked with and I said, do you really think he could hurt you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She said, yes, I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he could do worse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems that her problems with Duane Young went way further than a bit of Monday angst.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's someone truly, I don't know if I've watched the Brett from a person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I can climb to believe that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But aside from all that, the first Mary Morris, she was the one fortunate capital team to get a hit gone wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we need to fund an explanation for some of the strange circumstances, which followed her death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: About six months, I've heard her death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Her husband, she had more of a particular walk thing, $2,000 a phone girl, her dressers,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty unlikely it's epic, you can come across the current.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The girl was one of the first of the left-and-can-means store-perking left before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When it comes to return to the first American Spain, they were confused.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it wasn't even hers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not long after that, Japan started receiving strange phone calls from a mysterious caller asking for married.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This had happened three times, and the caller never ended over by themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They only stopped calling after he referred them onto the Harris County Sheriff's Office.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's one final fairy which often gets floated right around on it, so we can give it interesting before Christmas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some true prime fans would be surprised to be able to hold any backwards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'd be the first fairy more swissing victim, trail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to be stretching a balance of probability here, but if we run with it for a second, it offers a bit of an explanation for one of the most mysterious parts of the case, who called the Houston Chronicle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I should state that the existence of that phone call is not confirmed, and really might
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, if someone really did call in to warn them the second killing to come, then it would be the mode of possibly event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The killer would have hardly wanted to brag about his incompetence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the only theory which makes any sense is that it was an intentional red herring to distract from the first killing itself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I'm not convinced that the slightest by this, but when we're dealing with a case of this strange, it's best not to roll anything out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not even that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just as a distraction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one's going with my theory that it's the perfect time to offer another Mary Morris.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you have all the information behind one of the strangest mysteries in text and history.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was this a double barrel case?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a steak and eye identity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a slap-dash robbery and twisted revenge killing connected only by bizarre circumstances.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think most of us are leaning toward option number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's J Morris that has been a Mary number one put it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Astro-Nomical odds that two Mary Morris's were killed three days apart, very similar and looks, to me, that's what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Astro-Nomical odds that they're not connected, part of the reason we're still talking about these cases over 20 years is the fact that no one, no one explanation perfectly wraps up all the moving parts involved, no one angle ties everything together without even a few questions hanging.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For that reason, it's likely we'll never have a full account exactly why and how these women die.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is, unless there's a subun surelock out there that thinks they've cracked the case in the past 20 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's so there's a cash reward for any information that could shed some light on things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: $5,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Someone go forward and call it that, fight it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a distraction to kill another woman called Mary Morse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The families of both victims spent years campaigning for new information in order to get some closure along the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some minor silver linings have grown out of their tragedies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maryland Blair, daughter of the Mary number one, and Stephanie Lowry, Mary number two, sister.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It came close friends after co-starring in an episode of the Montel William Show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two, if the clumsy hitman angle seems too wild to be true, you should know there's already a precedent for this kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In 2006, Ohio resident Daniel Ott was killed with a shotgun to take the cops eight years to conclude that this law-abiding citizen's only crime was sharing the same name with another Daniel Ott who was set to testify.
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[SPEAKER_00]: against the chop shop guard garage owner and his stolen car operation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Best start praying that all your names takes are on the straight narrow.
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