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#683: The Gate Program | Ryder Lee · Macroaggressions

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Like I have you probably do you probably have a good idea
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But he's gonna connect some dots in here in this film that a whole man
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It'll blow you away. So please enjoy my conversation with director writer Lee
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Well, it's always good to connect with writer Lee after a movie. How many is this for you now?
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How many have you directed? This is the third one that is available on Amazon Prime and
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Apple TV plus and hopefully some other streaming services as the year comes to an end here
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But yes, this is the third one and I'm very excited about it. I think they it's different topics with each one
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But somehow they
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Kind of seem interconnected in some kind of weird way. I know well you you you are sort of you've got this
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niche down for sure
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Your in every film is better than the one before and that's a that's a real
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That's a real testament to your directing skills, man. I really enjoyed this one. I'll tell you why I
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It was admittedly late to the party about the gate program. I didn't go to public school
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I didn't know anything about this. I I found out about this like a couple years ago and people are like
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Oh, did you guys all have this test where they made you listen to different tones and they pulled you out of class for things?
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I was like, no, I didn't I don't know what you're talking about
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But the people who went through it were like completely triggered like oh shit. Yeah, I remember that like it was a big like
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It like snapped them out. So and then here you come and do a film about it
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And I was like man, so that's why that's part of the reason why I was excited to watch this because I
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Did not have an understanding of that program. I understand
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Like remote viewing in SRI and I get all that and I and and and I know who Lynn Buchanan is and Pat
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Price and Ingo Swan and Russell Targ and I know who those guys are, but I had
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No idea where you were taking this. So let's talk about this. Like how did you even start?
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How do you even start on a film like this like where what's your first move?
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Do you do you start making a list of people you want to interview? Do you start? I mean, where do you where do you begin?
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Well, that makes me really happy that you didn't really know exactly where the movie was going because that
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that was kind of my
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My goal with it is to like have a be a surprise kind of at the end because I'm kind of tired of you know
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Movies like spoon feeding you the entire narrative within the exposition of the movie
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I mean this documentary is really a documentary that you got a
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Kind of set down and watch and put two and two together on your own
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You know, it doesn't it gives you all the information, but there's
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Specific things that you're going to need to remember that happened in the very beginning of the movie that carries on
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To the very end of the movie that all kinds of you know, it fits together that
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You're going to have to come to that realization on your own of exactly what's going on and that's my favorite type of
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filmmaking it's that
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Stanley Kubrick ask and I'm not comparing myself to Stanley. This is two different supper things here
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I'm making documentaries Stanley Q. Well Stanley Kubrick in the beginning of his career did make documentaries
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not a lot of people know about that but
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You know, I'm not comparing myself there. He's an actual, you know a movie filmmaker. I'm a doc document
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Documentary filmmaker, you know what I mean, but that's the type of premise of that. I really like is that
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You know, it's for the audience. It's for the audience to put these things together on their own and come to their own
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Conclusion. Yes, we give you the information
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But then you take that information and you kind of put it together on your own and that's some of my favorite parts of
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filmmaking and
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We're good. That's that's a rare thing now because
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What I'm reading is that filmmakers are having to
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Adjust their entire way of doing of making films if they're gonna be on the streaming platforms like Netflix and places like that
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Because the attention span of the average viewer is so low and the distraction levels with their phones and things like that
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They've had to spoon feed it. So I actually kind of appreciate
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That you didn't just serve it up on a silver platter for everybody
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You kind of made them work a little bit in here
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Like I had an advantage because I already knew about
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SRI right so so I kind of came to a table preloaded it but but if you had no understanding of that
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This would be you'd you'd have to go for a lap do a lap around the block after you watch this and sort of like
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Try to understand what you'd just seen here because this shouldn't be happening and it feels very like
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Like if somebody told you about this at a party you'd go you have whatever like whatever and but then the way you lay it out
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It's it's it's undeniable that this is going on man. So like
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So like where did you how'd you get?
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How'd you get Limb you cannon to agree to talk to you because I feel like that guy's super dangerous
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He knows a lot of shit and and they probably know he knows a lot of shit
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And so like eyes are on him like he was cool talking to you about this stuff
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He was really cool talking with me about it, but I really had to pry on him hard even to get the
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The information that I got that's inside of the movie like I really had like
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Because you're not hearing really me ask the questions, you know what I mean?
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It's just the
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Interview part that you're getting from the person that I'm talking to but I'm there in person
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You know what I mean? I'm there behind the camera. I'm there with him and I'm asking these questions
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And I really had to pry on him hard because he really didn't have
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the
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The top security clearance of out of anybody at that time that he was in the military out of anybody in
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The world inside of the United States and that's what he said, right?
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You did he have it was he like magic like magic level clear like majestic level clearance
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I mean like he the way he made it sound there was there was nobody like really
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above them
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Yeah, that is the that's the thing is that you know and he makes that joke of you know
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Who has the top is the the most highest security clearance out of anybody?
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It's great man
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Shit, you know I would listen to that guy talk for hours man. He was he was deeply fascinating
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I bet the stuff that's going on in his head, but again like that
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The stuff going on in his head makes him very valuable and potentially dangerous
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So he didn't he didn't give up, you know, he didn't give up everything
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But I think it's worth for those curious to know more about what a guy like this with that high clearance saw
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You know his his words carry a lot more weight than
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Somebody like me, right? I'm just speculating about a story. I read or something. I heard but a guy like that who knows how to
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Really remote view and saw things that maybe he isn't allowed to see like
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What a fascinating fellow
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Yeah, it's really fascinating and and the things that he's put together and you know, and he's he's right
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I mean and it doesn't even a lot of the stuff that he was involved with like a lot of black ops things like very top-secret
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Missions and then we get into that a little bit later with like Walter Bosley and toward the end of the documentary where he's talking about well
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You know, you could be working for a freaking donut shop and not even know that that's a FBI or CIA
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Undercover operation has been running for 20 years. You know what I mean? So it's like, you know
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Those types of operations really do exist and they have been existing. I mean, I'm sure you're aware that I
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Think it was a couple of years ago
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that they were saying that a lot of the center aisle kiosk and malls or
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Massad front agents spy operations
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Do you remember that when they were seeing that the oh, oh, oh, I could I could understand that
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Let me clean your shoes. Let me clean your shoes. Yeah, I get your shoes very white very white come here buddy buddy buddy
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Yeah, yeah, I know those guys. Yeah, they're working from a solid fuck
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I'm not surprised those bastards they get your shoes clean for sure
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But they probably steal all your data off your cell phone while they're doing it
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Yeah, that's the thing and I think that's also what the flock cameras are also doing
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I think it's taken a lot of the data off of your devices immediately as soon as you go by it's some kind of
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Bluetooth
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technology that's just
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Snatching all the data off of your phone and yeah, that's when you go past it. Yeah, I mean, we're in we're in hell
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I mean and and these guys
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You know, I can't help but think that these guys are part of that too because when I hear Stanford Research Institute
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And I know who came out of who's coming out of Stanford
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Peter teal and that group that that's moving into the technology front in Silicon Valley
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I mean, where's that that line gets very blurry between
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Silicon Valley and
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DARPA in QTEL
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You know military and you know like SRI what is SRI? I mean what what is it technically?
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It's like a non-governmental organization is a research lab
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I mean what's it does it have a designation? Is it still operational these days? I?
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Believe it is still operational. It's in Palo Alto. It's not too far from me
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I've actually been to Palo Alto a couple of times, but it's basically a government contractor
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We're and we know
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You know
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Everyone kind of knows what government contractors are they're just a front for the intelligence in the military industrial complex for them to
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Give research and data to them so that none of it can ever be foy it
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You know, this is where a lot of people think that the UFO stuff goes as to private government contractors because they have no
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Responsibility to the American public at all so it can just be it's it's like a
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Blockade between the government and the people that things can just be shuffled off onto them
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And then no one will ever find out about it because it's it's from a private corporation
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It's kind of like Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and you know skunkworks and all these different things are all government
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Contractors private government contractors that don't have any obligation to the American public
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Yeah, and that's where that technology gets hidden and that's where this this these skills get developed
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Right, I mean if you if you come across remote viewing right you discovered that there's
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There's a real science behind that
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you
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You know you you immediately realize that you're sitting on one of the most powerful technologies
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known to man right and like
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You that instantly becomes dangerous that you know how to do that, right? So it almost has to be
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quasi military in nature
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I mean I well, I guess some of these guys are now kind of doing it on a retail level
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They were doing it like with crypto back in the days
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But you're still doing it with crypto today. There's several people that you know, well the stock market
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there was actually a part in the movie that I
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Had to leave on the cutting room floor, which was Dell graph
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He was the one that created the he was operations manager for the Stargate remote viewing unit
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Which went through many different name changes and iterations since 1978 and ended up on the Stargate in the early 90s
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And that was switched by Dale graph. He's the one that created that name Stargate
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See that there's three different programs that were really discussed within the movie
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Which is the government remote viewing unit the DIA army intelligence remote viewing unit the Stargate
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Program, which was a spying on foreign assets and foreign
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things that were going on during the Cold War and
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after
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Up until 1999 whenever the CIA was supposed to get it back and then they shut it down
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Which then I believe that another program opened that was more
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nefarious that had to do with
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mental influence and
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Possibly remote assassination
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Which we will get into here, but then we also cover the Monroe Institute Gateway
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Project the Gateway experience what you can still go and do at the Monroe Institute Bob Monroe passed away
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But you can still go to the Monroe Institute and have the Gateway experience, which is the hemi sink
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Technology which is a two different
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frequencies and either one of your ears to induce an out-of-body experience and then we have the gate programs
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Which is the gifted and talented education, which is what?
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millions of kids were reportedly have been through
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Since verifiably the early 60s these programs have been going on and you just mentioned DARPA in there and DARPA is
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Very very interesting because a lot of this started in 1958
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Yeah, that's when the United States launched its first satellite in the space
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called Explorer 1 in
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1958 which was just a little bit after Russia had launched their first satellite in the space called the Sputnik and
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This is when DARPA was established was 1958 NASA was also established in 1958 and
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1958 was also when the government became involved with the public school systems
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sponsored by the Rockefellers in
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1958 and
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There's also a connection here between
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Jeffrey Epstein and gasoline Maxwell and gasoline mass Maxwell's dad and the Rothschilds were also
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Instrumental in the formation of the Federal Reserve and all this stuff is really connected
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But how the Rothschilds they basically needed to take over Wall Street, so they needed to take
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They needed to send someone there to oversee the purchase of this
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corporation called McMellan Inc and
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McMellan Inc was a media company that would later be named
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Rename McGraw Hill, which is responsible for pretty much all of the elementary school books in America
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So all of the public school books that everybody was raised on and taught out of was
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by a
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Rothschild backed
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Bought company is the one that produced all these books and the person that they sent to purchase this company was Robert Maxwell
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gasoline Maxwell's dad
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Right Robert Maxwell was working for the Rothschilds
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He was like their main guy and when Maxwell died on his job because he owed a lot of money to Massad and he owed money to the Rothschild family and the
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Rothschild family through the banking cartels of England
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Connected to the black the Maxwell running all these corporate blackmail schemes throughout the world
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Which is essentially backed by a massage in England when he died Epstein and gasoline
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He was literally just introduced to Epstein like six months before he died on his yacht
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Okay, so he died and then Epstein and gasoline
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Took over his position
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And I've seen essentially yeah working for the Rothschilds and taking that franchise that East Coast New York
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Palm Beach Island
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Branch you know and take care of all that
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So then we also have the Rockefeller
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Funding the psychic and ESP research in major universities across the United States in the early 30s
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Which I talked about in the very beginning of the movie at Duke University by psychiat
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Psychiatrists at Carl Zender and JB Ryan they developed a
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ESP psychic car game which would go on to attest and evaluate
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Indigenous school children in Canada as well as the United States
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That that was known as the Zender cards and this is a very real
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telepathy car game that a lot of people in the gate program
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remember doing as children and
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I guess it's good to go back to your
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One of your first questions is like how did the saw how did all the research and everything start to
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Formulate and began well it's kind of started around four years ago whenever I started looking into a lot of the MK ultra
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Subprojects the ones that we know about
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Because it's been reported that there were I
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don't even
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Some have estimated up to three to four hundred different MK ultra sub projects, but we only got a hundred and forty nine of
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Them and the only way that we got them was that some people were cleaning out some storage
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Facility and then they stumbled across all of the MK ultra documents that were that weren't destroyed or burned
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So that's only way that's the only way that we even know about any of this MK or have any of the
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Documentation about MK ultra is that it was just stumbled across in some
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Storage facility and if it hadn't been found if people would be talking about how they were like brainwashing everyone
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Go get out of here bullshit. I mean nobody know you're that government wouldn't do that
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Like Kathy O'Brien all these people they'd be like put the straight jacket on that crazy old lady
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But now now you know about MK ultra. You know what it is. Thank God because we they preserved some of the documents
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MK Naomi and all these other ones that they were head scrambling
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Projects, I mean this this is a real thing did they did the the gate gifted in talented education
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Does that have to do with Stargate or where they just bring in this gate?
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Word through everything was that sort of a running theme here?
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What does it mean something? Is it some occultic word or is it a gateway to somewhere else or what are they doing here?
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Yeah, it's pretty much just the in name only
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There we don't have any evidence that anybody that was in the gate program ever became a
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Official remote and I asked the people that were in the in the doc
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You the official remote viewers for DIA army intelligence if they were ever in a gate program
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But this was they had to have been in school before there was any official gifted and talented
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Education because it started in 1958. So they would have been in grade school and
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You know middle school long before then so
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It's pretty much just only in name
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You know that that's been carried over, you know, and we get a lot of gates. I mean everyone is kind of involved in a gate
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I mean when you go to the freaking airport, what do you go to you go to your gate?
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But I mean there's the flight gate. There's water gate. There's everything is a gate. It was what it seems
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I'm wondering if it's a magic spell that somebody's like, oh, yeah, don't you know the entomology that word gate means
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Casting demons or so. I don't know. So I'm just making it up
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But you know that somebody's gonna tell me like, oh, oh, yeah, it's all like witchcraft and spell casting
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Yeah, I mean it wouldn't surprise me that probably someone would do that. What is that where they turn the
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The name into a number. Oh
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Jamatria jamatria, yeah, they'll do a jamatria on it and say that sure
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So so they're looking for mentally gifted miners in this gate program, right? So what do they do when they find them?
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Well, that's the part that there's not a lot of
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evidence for and that was my main goal was to find evidence of what these gate programs really were
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doing and what the goals and the activities of
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taking these children out and
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putting them into a special
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class or
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you know
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with other kids, right that have been deemed gifted and talented and
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That's the
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Really the only speculative part of the entire movie is kind of what happens after
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You've been through the program. Yeah, because there's not they're not gonna put in a
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Document that Johnny Johnny graduated the gift of program and now he's the he's the head of NASA
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You know what I mean? They're not gonna put that in any document
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Well, my fear is actually much darker is that they disappear these kids into some underground base to
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To you know be precogs like they did in Minority Report or something like that
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You know, I like take them take them someplace and weaponize their gifts
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You know or you know, I also was curious if they were looking for something in bloodlines, you know
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They're putting all these kids through something and maybe this is we're looking for lost bloodlines or you know
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I never trust whatever it is. They're looking for gifted and talented. It's pretty vague to me
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So I just wondered if they were maybe looking for something else if they what they did they
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Categorize all these kids into a database. I mean, I like my my my mind goes to the worst possible place where they're like
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Oh, you're very talented come with us and they put you in a van and then you never see those kids again
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Right. They just disappear into some bunker. That's it. That is a very high possibility and it is
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Hinted at throughout the movie that that is a possibility with
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the idea that
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The Stargate remote viewing unit was shut down and with my belief that
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they had another unit that was done with remote influencing and remote control, which is what
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Limbukannon calls it and I show a document in the movie. I didn't show the entire document because
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You know if somebody actually got their hands on it then they could probably do some real damage, but it's a
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very real document that
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Talks about the the steps on how to remotely influence somebody
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You know it gives you the steps on how to do that and
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You know what that would seems like it would be a very good tool
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To know how to do and it could persuade
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foreign
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Targets I could persuade political leaders. I could even
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Persuade somebody to act erratically it could I mean I asked Limbukannon in the movie
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I was like could you get into someone's head to have them crash a plane?
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You know could you get into someone's head to have them crash a train?
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You know derail a train
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You know and then the next step of that which I
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Didn't put in the movie because I want you to put two and two together on your own it
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Would it be possible to get into someone's head psychically to have them kill somebody?
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Yeah to have them assassinate someone right because that's that's the the whole thing here is that
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Yes, it might be possible that you could kill somebody with your mind, right?
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You could raise their blood pressure like someone that already has some sort of predisposed condition
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That that you would want to you know them to
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Die from a heart attack or something you that is possible to do it would take a lot of work and a lot of time
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but
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According to Limbukannon, it is very possible. He was asked if he could kill Osama bin Laden with his mind
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He said yes, I could do that, but I'm not going to do that
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but the part of the interview that you didn't hear was that
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He said I well I can make him sick and
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Apparently he did it was like two weeks that no one heard from Osama bin Laden during that period of time and was reported that he was like
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Sick or something and then you know
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He wasn't during that period of time that Lynn was doing the remote influencing sickness on him
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He wasn't anywhere to be seen so it's like yes, you could do that. You could psychically assassinate somebody
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But what does that really?
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Do in the grand scheme of things right would you rather have
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Osama bin Laden die of a heart attack inside of a cave somewhere or at his house or whatever
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That's not going to be very explosive for the American public
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That's not going to be something that is going to get the attention and get everybody who run
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For the United States, but what does get somebody really Huron for the United States is seals team six going in
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Shooting and killing him and then dumping his body in the freaking ocean, which is completely ridiculous
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But anyway, we didn't see any pictures of him dead or anything
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He's just wrapped in some kind of cloth then they would throw him off of the boat whatever doesn't matter
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But the that's just my point is is that
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Yes, you could just psychically kill somebody, but why would you want to do that?
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You would actually want to
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Influence remotely influence somebody else to carry out the act because
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Someone else carrying out the act then
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puts an enemy
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It gives you a singular person that you can blame everything on it was this individual
32:47
It's exactly like with the Charlie Kirk situation, right?
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Everyone is Tyler Robinson Tyler Robinson in this we can blame this all on Tyler Robinson
32:55
It's the exact same thing with the JFK scenario and the JFK assassination. It was Oswald Oswald. Well, we killed Oswald
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Jack Ruby shot and killed Oswald. So now it's over
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Yeah, you know, so we can just blame this on a specific individual
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And it won't matter because it's on that individual and or that group, you know, so there's a there's a lot of
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value yet way more value in a
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remote
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To remote influence somebody else to carry out a crime or carry out an act
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Absolutely. Did did Pat Price get the Osama Bin Laden treatment treatment? I
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Mean did they fake his death because like he got he dies
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They cremate the body. They don't tell his wife, you know, like and then he's like, well, sorry
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I mean he's gone like so you would never kill that guy that guy's too valuable, right? You would you would say
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We're gonna make you an offer. You can't refuse you're gonna die air quotes
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And then we're gonna move you underground change your identity. Maybe not physically move you underground, but you know what? I mean relocate you
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I
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Mean because I can't
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That that's a coincidence. I'm just unwilling to accept that he died that early that young and
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That the military did the things that they did so quickly, you know turning them into a pile of sand
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So you can't identify the body. That's that'd be something you do if you wanted to fake somebody's death. I mean, yeah
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That's exactly what you would do. Yeah, his his family wasn't notified until after he was already cremated
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People showed up to the hotel room in black suits with briefcases. They were the one that took the body
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He took out a large life insurance policy
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He gave his family and his friends a very cryptic phone call the night before he was found dead in the hotel room
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like can't kind of saying, you know
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cryptically saying you're goodbye and
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Yeah, it is 100%
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I believe that the entire thing that his entire thing was faked and you can look at the circumstantial evidence and be like
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Yes, 100% this thing was faked and and not only that the CIA could cut funding to SRI the year that he died
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Why would you do that if you didn't fake his death?
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And he's working at some top-secret underground facility for the the the government or for the CIA, right?
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It's not like Pat Price was the only remote viewer that SRI had
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They also had like Ingo Swan and a few others that were pretty good in and of their own right
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I mean Ingo Swan is considered one of the greats as well
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just as much as as Pat Price was and that's a big reason that Ingo kind of
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Stepped away from the entire thing because I'm pretty sure he knew exactly what happened to Pat Price and he was like
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Yeah, I'm not doing this. I'm
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I'm out of here, you know, he's stuck around for about six or seven years after that
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and then he might have gotten some kind of offer
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Sort of like what Pat Price got and he denied and he was like, yeah, I'm out
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Then he lived out of the rest of his life not being involved with the government and
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you know doing art and stuff like that and doing the speaking events for
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SRI and talking about remote viewing but he discontinued his work with the with the government
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after that. So yeah, it is my 100%
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I mean, I can't factually say because there's not really any there's just circumstantial evidence
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But whenever you build that circumstantial evidence to a point, it's like, okay, what's really going on here?
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He definitely is it reeks of a fake
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fake death
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What's the Monroe Institute? You mentioned it before it's like R&D for like psychic abilities or what were they?
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What were they doing over there?
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well, the goal was to
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induce an out-of-body experience that was what the Monroe Institute is still about to this very day is to
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Get people outside of their body and if you read through the CIA
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Gateway experience document that we actually show in the movie. You'll see that you know, it talks about
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getting outside of your body and communicating with
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non-human intelligence and gathering that information and then coming back and then giving that
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Informant and that's what Robert Monroe did. That's how he wrote a lot of his books was communicating with these non-human
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Intelligence entities in the astral realm and then them giving him information and then him coming back and writing these books
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About his experiences being outside of his body and the connection to the gate
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The Stargate remote viewing unit is that
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Army intelligence paid Robert Monroe around two thousand dollars this was in
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Late 70s or early 80s
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2000 which two thousand dollars is quite a bit of money back and you know the early 80s
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to send some of their army
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personnel to the Monroe Institute to figure out how to see if
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The Monroe Institute hemisync tapes would help them
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Be more psychic or help them with their remote viewing abilities and several of the people
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Including limb Buchanan were sent to the Monroe Institute to study under Robert Monroe, and they also had the tapes they're
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at Fort Meade in the remote viewing unit to
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Lynn said that they would use them as like a cool-down technique after a long day's work
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They would put on the Monroe hemisync tapes and then they would essentially be able to relax
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but also
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Within the Monroe Institute tapes the well not the tapes but within the documents it talks about how
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Bio feedback is really important in understanding
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You know psychic abilities and getting outside of your body and that's really where Katie Page comes in
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I have her in the movie as well
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and she was a part of this program in Colorado in
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The mid 70s to 80s
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I'm not 100% sure on the date you'd have to watch the movie because she said it. I didn't say it
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But she has the actual tapes of
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This program that she was a part of was called the twilight learner program
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And it was by this guy named Thomas H. Bedinsky, which previously worked at area 51
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As a navigational engineer for the SR 71 Blackbird
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And then he just happens to go to Colorado to start this self-hypnosis
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bio feedback program called the twilight learner
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Program, it's so strange
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so strange that all so many of these space engineers and these
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these these tech people
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Also want to be involved in like consciousness psychology and
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Therapy and
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Stuff like that, you know what I mean? Like they all want to be involved in like mental health work
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You know what I mean? It's so be alarmed. It's pretty alarming as many people that were involved in like space exploration
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Working for NASA working at area 51. They're
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Navigational experts and engineers that that they're also involved in psychology. It's so weird
40:31
There's some kind of thread there that I that someone needs to figure out
40:35
I might get to the bottom of it at some point, but it's very interesting and very strange
40:41
so she was a part of this program that was essentially like a
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Self-hypnosis and she said whenever she
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How she remembered that she went through this program was that she's in her later in her life
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She started listening to the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes
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And then she was triggered back to whenever she was a kid and she was involved in this Twilight learner program
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with Thomas H. Bedinsky and
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The Denver Tech Center in Colorado when she was a kid
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And then she's like putting two and two together. She's like this seems like very familiar
41:18
This has given me this exact same experience of this out of body
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Experience that I was getting whenever I was a kid listening to these tapes. So they they're very similar
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In the way that they do the almost the exact same thing
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and then you get into
41:36
The gate program the gifted and talented education and people remembering hearing these strange weird frequencies that
41:46
Triggered them back to whenever they were a kid and in these
41:51
Programs and being tested with these hearing tests in public school in the gate program
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When you were talking about how they they would get these people out of their bodies and have them interact with
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Beans in the astral realm and
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Drag information back and that reminds me of what Jordy Rose said the CEO of D wave who makes the super computers
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He was talking about how they were opening up
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Parallel dimensions and they were interacting with intelligence there and they were dragging information back into this
42:29
dimension and it was like
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I'm like I have a follow-up question
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Who's giving you the information?
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What is the information? How do you know it's they're good?
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How do you know the information is any good like I don't know we're in a world where it's like
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We're in a world of computer viruses. How do you know you're not dragging?
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Like information virus from one dimension into your dimension and this is like a really bad idea
42:57
Like I don't know what his answer was. I never I don't know that he ever really gave a
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Solid answer. I don't I don't think they're I don't think there is an answer but like what is this man like this seems
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Incredibly reckless to me. I mean and I and I love psychedelics don't get me wrong
43:14
I've gone into these places and you know, there's a lot of information, but it's like
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But no there was no being that was like let me give you this information
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Because if that happened, you know, I'd I'd have some thoughts about it
43:28
But like this feels incredibly reckless to to send all these people get them out of their bodies
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interacting with who knows what who knows where right and some parallel dimension and then this information what is supposed to be
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Supposed to be good information or I guess they I don't know maybe they don't make a determination whether it's good or bad
43:47
But maybe whether it's accurate or enough. I mean, how do you measure the accuracy of the information you drag back from some?
43:55
Heavier dimension that you can't even explain to somebody
43:59
Well, that's the thing Alex Jones in 2018 on Joe Rogan was saying that in San Francisco
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There's government agents that would be doing DMT and go and make intergalactic deals with the alien non-human intelligence
44:15
Regardless of what you think about Alex Jones, I mean shit that kind of lines up with what these this Monroe's gateway stuff is
44:25
About you know what I mean and I that one that one always that episode was actually taken down
44:30
You can't find it anymore of but that always stuck with me. That's also the episode that he's talking about how they're harvesting
44:38
Like the the late-term abortion stuff where they're just you know
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Animal human chimera hybrids and all kinds of crazy shit, but very plausible now and they probably
44:50
You know took that down for the whole thing down for a reason, but that's a very difficult episode to find but um, that's right the
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I think that the goal here is because there's also a
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There's a lot of controversy over this substance that was supposedly given to these
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Young children which a lot of people remember it as like the pink drink, right? It's a strange chalky
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type of liquid that a lot of kids in the gay program were
45:22
you know said to have been essentially forced to take and
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When you look at that as like a drug a hallucinogenic drug everything starts to make sense
45:36
I mean, this is exactly what human Cameron was doing in
45:42
the MK Ultra programs in Canada at Raven's crack
45:46
It's literally the exact same thing. He was drugging people
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Psychologically traumatizing them through some form of abuse
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We called it deep patterning which gets rid of any cognitive thought any rational
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Rationalization that you could possibly come to through the trauma that you're receiving and then he would put on a
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Looped audio message, which is what he called psychic driving
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We talk about this in the this is the connection between the second movie and this movie, you know
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Because we talk a lot about you and Cameron in a clockwork shining
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Kubrick's Odyssey 3 and
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That's essentially
46:33
When you relate that to the public school stuff, it seems identical
46:39
To exactly what's going on. So they drug the child and people can say all while this was a
46:44
President's physical fitness test. This was a you know a fluoride whatever mouth rinse you weren't supposed to drink it
46:52
That's yes. I'm not claiming that those things didn't happen. Yes
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I I went to private school. We didn't have a president's physical fitness test at once a year, but this is different
47:02
This isn't a standard
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Quarterly
47:07
Half-year year standard test that can be confused with some of the because that those things did happen, too
47:15
You know, I do and also remember the health department showing up to the school once a year
47:20
and we do like a teeth brushing course and a hand washing course where they would put the
47:26
The soap on your hands, but that wasn't really soap, but it was the go to the sink to wash
47:31
Then they were shine a black light on your you remember this
47:33
They were shine like a black light on your hands to see where you messed up on washing your hands might have been something
47:39
You know that not everyone did but you know, it's something similar to what people
47:46
The the the bunkers and the skeptics of this whole thing would say that it was, you know
47:50
But that's not what I'm talking about something very frequent
47:56
I'm talking about something on a daily
47:59
weekly
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basis that you're being pulled out of the classroom to be a part of this
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this
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Program on a daily and weekly basis. This isn't something that everybody went through
48:16
right there can be
48:19
Certain things that like the things that I just mentioned like the president's physical fitness test where everyone was involved
48:25
Or the health department coming to the school where everyone was involved and that might be something that you're misremembering as
48:32
Something that happened to everybody
48:35
Right, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about something. Yeah, this is different
48:39
Different and separate in the fact that it's happening every single day and and it's a weekly thing so
48:47
When you take into consideration you and Cameron and what he was doing whenever the MK ultra
48:53
Sub projects were leased out to Canada in order for people not to really find out about them within the United States
49:00
they would lease them out to other countries and
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When you take into consideration what he was doing up there and then what people reported was happening to them in the gate program
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The gifted and talented education in public school. They are almost identical. They're given a substance that they don't know
49:19
That could possibly be some sort of hallucinogenic drug
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They're taken into a room. They're given strange tests. They're given
49:30
flash-guard tests of Rorschach test vision test
49:33
Then they have headphones put on them with
49:37
That's exactly like what you and Cameron was doing with the psychic driving the looped audio message. It's it's identical
49:45
In in the process that that it goes through and then they're outside of their body and then they're having a disassociative
49:53
experience
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Where they've gotten outside of their body and now they're in this other state
49:59
They've been drugged and and not knowing what's going on and that's that's like the the whole thing of what?
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MK ultra was really about was
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unknowingly
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dosing people
50:12
With drugs to then gauge the red that was some of the first ones that were ever done. It was done on army personnel
50:20
That would they would just take giant barrels of this this drug called BZ
50:26
Which is like a hundred times more powerful than standard LSD
50:29
They would just crack the barrels open and let those the substance wash out over the field
50:35
And then they would just have what they would simulate an army battle out there
50:39
While and then all the soldiers have to be drug because they were so freakin loopy didn't know what was going on and a lot of them
50:45
They were forced to inhale substances that they weren't told they tried to sue the government
50:52
They didn't get anything and a lot of the the government tried to say that they weren't even in the program
50:58
This is a documentary about it on HBO I can't remember what well, there's a there's a
51:04
there's a motion picture that
51:06
Sort of mimics that Jacob's ladder which in my opinion is the scariest movie
51:11
I have ever seen in my entire life with Tim Robbins in it and
51:16
He have you seen that movie before I have not seen Jacob's law they they're in Vietnam
51:22
They get dosed there it happens in the aftermath. They're looking back on their time in Vietnam
51:28
They're trying to put the pieces together
51:30
Something happened they dosed them
51:32
Turns out what happened is that they dosed them with this chemical agent to make them extremely aggressive called the ladder and
51:41
The people went berserk and they just they didn't just kill the enemy
51:44
They killed each other and they just it was a big disaster and the army tried to like bury it and the whole thing
51:51
It's like he's trying to piece it back together and you know
51:56
It's chaotic and scary and and I and I my assumption is that probably based on some bit of truth
52:03
You know probably a real program like that
52:05
I mean, you know, maybe not a documentary necessarily but but the idea that the government would be spraying you with these
52:12
Chemical agents to try and make you more aggressive on the battlefield. It sounds crazy, but doesn't sound like something they wouldn't do
52:20
Yeah, that program was the first done in Fort Detrick
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Maryland which is very close to Fort Mead, Maryland and some of it was also done at Redstone Orsenal
52:32
As well, so yeah, yeah, that was some of the very first MK Ultra programs were experiments on army personnel
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That were volunteers for the program and they weren't told what the outcome of any of these experiments were going to be
52:46
They just were told that they were
52:50
Biological agents
52:52
They weren't told that it was going to make essentially them go into a psychosis because when you're unknowingly dosed with a hallucinogenic
53:01
You can immediately go into a psychosis because you don't know what's going on like whenever you take a
53:06
Substance and you knowingly know what it's going to do. You can mentally prepare for that experience, right?
53:13
When you're unknowingly dosed with it
53:17
You you think you're having a mental breakdown you you don't know it's one thing if you do acid and go to the grocery store
53:23
It's another thing if you didn't know you were doing acid and you're going to the and you're at in you're there and the
53:29
The the hall gets longer like the aisle gets twice as long and you're like, holy shit
53:36
It's finally happening. I'm losing my mind if that happened to you like on just a normal Tuesday afternoon
53:42
You check yourself into the nut house for sure
53:44
But if you if somebody later told you, oh, we were just fucking with you. We sprayed you with a bunch of stuff
53:50
You'd still wouldn't like it of course
53:51
But at least it would fill in some of the gaps as to why your brain became
53:56
You know so so unhinged out of the blue
54:00
Yeah, you can lose your mind and that was like the whole that's what the CIA love doing
54:04
They they love just unknowingly dosing people
54:07
There was an apartment that they just put lsd aerosol in that was a party
54:12
You had that people would just go out of their minds and lose their marbles
54:18
Well speaking of fake dust too, I just had Walter Bosley on the channel last week and he was talking about how his neighbor
54:26
Whenever he was in the air force and then he started getting into the
54:30
FBI and working as an undercover agent and a lot of these operations
54:35
His neighbor was also an intelligence officer. I worked for the intelligence community and
54:43
He had went to Antarctica on a mission
54:47
Okay, he's seen some
54:50
Apparently seen some crazy shit down there
54:53
right
54:54
almost lost his mind
54:57
based off of what he saw
55:00
And then the military called his wife and said that he had died
55:07
That he died in combat right he was gone her
55:10
And then eight months later
55:15
She gets another phone call and it's him
55:19
And he's like i'm alive. I'll be at the house in 10 minutes
55:25
Don't ask me any questions. I'm not going to talk about
55:29
what happened
55:31
Whoa
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But i'm here and i'm out of active duty. I'm done with the military
55:38
Yeah, and uh, and i'm back
55:42
So yeah, I yeah, I I think that happens more than than people
55:49
No, but uh
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Um
55:53
How is walter bosley? I haven't talked to him in in a while
55:56
I had a phone conversation with him one one time that
56:00
For like an hour we talked about all kinds of stuff interesting guy
56:04
Uh, he's doing really great. Um, uh
56:08
He's writing a new book
56:11
He's uh
56:12
Trying to get into the documentary
56:15
Spaces as well, but he's doing really good. So yeah, have him on again. Uh, have him on again sometime soon
56:21
his UFO work is uh
56:24
Really incredible
56:26
His airship work is is pretty remarkable as well. I mean that took me down a rabbit hole. I was like wait a second wait
56:33
What because I because I
56:36
Lived for 10 years in the south bay area of of los angeles and anybody that
56:41
Would go down that 405 bend in the south bay would see the blimp the good year blimp was stationed there
56:48
It was right off of the freeway. You'd drive if it was in town
56:50
It would be there and you would see it and so
56:54
I would just see that blimp, you know, I don't know maybe once a month for 10 years, you know
56:59
and just think and I would I remember thinking like
57:03
That's kind of an unusual technology that sort of never really went anywhere
57:09
and then then you dig and then you get into walters work and it's like
57:13
Are you certain about that that that technology that never went anywhere like
57:18
Allow me to introduce you to the concept of the vanilla sky and I was like wait what?
57:23
What is like so he cracked my head open on on some stuff years ago and
57:30
On the airship mystery of like the late 1800s early 1900s and
57:34
And why all those paintings look the way they look man
57:37
I'll tell you what there's so much of our history that we just do not know that they
57:42
intentionally misled us about like
57:45
You know, that's why when you're doing you're you're doing work on on these sorts of psychic
57:52
Abilities like psychic programs and it all feels very brand new
57:56
But I wonder how much of this technology this knowledge has been around for you and it's just about guarding it
58:02
It's been around for thousands of years and people know exactly how to put you into a meditative state and
58:08
You know, they destroyed the technology because it would have been too helpful or something like that
58:12
You know what I mean? Like I just I feel like our history is such bullshit and and
58:19
I don't know. It's frustrating. I feel I feel very destabilized because of that like you you sort of
58:25
Drifting like you don't know where you come from
58:28
You told that this is the most technologically advanced time in human history. I have questions about that. I don't know
58:35
I don't know if that's necessarily true
58:36
And I think this might have been there might have been some other times that got
58:41
Flooded over over the years. So I don't know man
58:44
How how do you do it at the at this point? Like you've gone down every rabbit hole
58:49
And then some like how do you how do you how is your head working these days after everything that you know?
58:55
Well, I think a lot of things have been hidden from us
58:57
From a very deep fundamental level. I mean so many of our cities are built on top of other cities
59:04
Sacramento is literally built on top of old
59:08
Sacramento that's seen with san francisco
59:11
There's the tunnels underneath the both of those city vegas as well
59:16
And also it's like you know under vegas. Yeah, so like what are we even doing here?
59:21
Like I don't even understand how this is even like a thing anymore. It's
59:26
It's unbelievable that you know, uh, we can't come to the realization that
59:32
You know, maybe we're we're not the most advanced that we've ever been, you know, like why is that so hard?
59:37
Why is that so hard for academia to come into the realization that
59:43
We have probably been here at this exact point several times before and the history. I mean, how far is it?
59:49
I mean science and archaeology is keeps putting pushing back the date
59:53
I mean there's a skull that was found recently that was like over a million years old, dude
59:59
Yeah, so
1:00:03
We have we have recency bias we we feel that we're
1:00:07
You know since we're here now
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We're the pinnacle like the final evolution of everything that's been going on over the years if it had been any better
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It
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We would be building upon that, right? That's the sort of the law
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And it's actually kind of logical to think that I suppose unless you
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Contemplate that maybe civilization was brought to a halt abruptly multiple times throughout
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It's you know
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Recorded history or I don't even know if it's recorded history
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But just the history that we've been here and and I you mentioned too the same time the NASA gets formed
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Same time the Rockefellers
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Invade the school system
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public school system compulsory school system
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You start see globes in the classrooms
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You know, they start putting globes there to start talking to you about dinosaurs immediately
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I mean what kid doesn't want to talk about dinosaurs, right? So I I've started scratching my head
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I mean if we're gonna review everything here if everything's on the table for review then like I have questions about like
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I don't know about these dinosaurs either
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You know
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They just literally found a whole pit of bones and then just started putting things together and was like this is a dinosaur
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This is what we think the dinosaur looks like
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It doesn't look anything like that. It was just a giant pit of freaking bones that they decided to put together
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To make it look like whatever they wanted it to look at. This is a velociraptor. This is a t-rex
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No, it's not. How do you know?
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It's not like the entire dinosaur was preserved
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No, they've never died. They've never found one
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Completely preserved in the exact way that it's been presented to us as the way that it looked
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Doesn't exist. It's never existed
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So what does that do to somebody's mind, you know what I mean?
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Like it puts it like if you introduced that information early on
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Same way as like cultures before us have have done it with like religion believing that like
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I don't know you have to sacrifice people so that you can get the so the weather will be favorable to you
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Right, but if you believe that if you're if you grow up with that early on and that's just what you believe
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Or that's what you're told
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You know, you don't seem to drift too much away from that. I wonder what the benefit is
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To the controllers to keep us in the dark about
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A lot of this stuff. I understand like psychic abilities. That'd be crazy if everybody could tap into their psychic abilities. It might be
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unstable for for the controlling parties, but like what difference does it make to them whether or not dinosaurs are real or the shape of the earth or the
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uh, you know aliens or anything like that
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I
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It just seems like they're they're intentionally limiting our possibility or putting us on some different
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uh
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thought process
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Just to keep us
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disoriented and confused
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I'll tell you why because it's exactly
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why
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you would want to get the smartest person from
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India to come and work for your company your your major tech company
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This is it. It's the exact same reason why you would want to get
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A very smart developer from china to come and work for your giant
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Because anything that they make for you
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They have no control over they can invent the the greatest technology the world has ever seen
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For you they will never own it
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They will never be the head of that company. They will never be the ceo of that organization
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They will never be the president of that organization. So it's about control
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You could control
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the people
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Then uh
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And you know that would be the big reason that you would want to control the kids because if you control the kids
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and what they are uh determined to do from a very young age then you essentially have
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a stranglehold on the future and you can
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basically tell the future because
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And know the future because you have all the people
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Already ready to develop that future for you and that gets into your one of your original questions of what was
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the gate program
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all about
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and
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I don't just believe that it was for psychic abilities. I don't just believe that it was some sort of
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mk ultra
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project I I believe that it was also for
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recruitment but
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not only recruitment for
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The three-light organizations and the military because that's a really big branch of it as well, but it's also
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For uh putting people in positions of power
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Corporations uh CEOs
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uh to because again if you get
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The the brightest
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Mines working for you that means that they are not going to be competition for you
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They're not going to go out and invent their own corporation
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They're not going to run their own multimillion dollar organization. They're not going to be uh, you know any kind of
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Trouble for you in the long term because they are working for you
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Right. They're they're all of their smarts
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And their innovation is going and the people that slip through the cracks don't really matter because
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Those people can be like their ideas and their
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patents and whatever that they come up with. Uh, it can be hidden and uh, basically banished under the national security act
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Right. That's another really important aspect of this. They can just call anything
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National security and then just completely conceal it under the banner of national security
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Right. That's what the patriot act in 9 11 really did was
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You know because there was this thing in the early 70s about like furpa
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And uh, a lot of parents were getting really upset because they couldn't get their child's uh educational records
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And it turned out that the educational records was actually going to the cia
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That's why they couldn't get their records, right their their kids records. So they installed this, uh
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this bill called furpa
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and furpa was to
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Give the rights back to the parents to get their child's education records
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But the cia slipped in an amendment at like the one of the last uh days of this bill being passed
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That still allowed the cia to get access to all of the so the parents got the access finally back, but
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It all didn't block access from the cia from also getting the ability to get the records as well
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And then when 9 11 happened and the patriot act happened basically
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Got rid of any remnants of furpa ever existing because now it's about terrorism, right now we can
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Get in and get access to anybody's records that we possibly ever want to have under the threat of
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of terrorism of domestic or or foreign
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terrorism, right and that's how they
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Essentially got around anything that was left over from furpa. So now it's just uh, you know, they can label it as whatever they want
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And that was under the the threat of the whole
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terrorism thing was under the threat of national security. So they can essentially do that with
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Any patent that you ever file?
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With the patent office, they can just hide it under the the national security act. Um,
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Uh, I think that that is called the invention
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secrecy act of 1951
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Which says that the government can literally classify any patent under the threat of national security
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And you know, what is national security again at national security is just whatever the they say that it is
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All right, so it's a multi layered thing. It's not just for psychic abilities
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It's not just for recruitment to the military or in the three letter organizations. It's also
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to find the next gretta thunberg
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Right, it's also to find
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the net that's going to come out there and talk about climate change and all this
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Crazy shit or whatever it is whatever agenda. It's to propagandize people is to find the next person
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To come out and and push the next agenda that they want pushed
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That's a big part of the in the programs, too
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It's a to find the next athlete to find the next
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Top musician I mean when you go back and look at like all the musicians from the 60s and all these people had military backgrounds
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Their fathers were in military
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They had a very close relative that was in the military
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The the air force had a freaking air force base on top of laurel canyon called lookout mountain
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Uh air force base, you know what I mean? So this is just a carryover
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To get everybody it's exactly like mk ultra how they realized that mk ultra was
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You know
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They figured it out on an individual level and then they were like well
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Let's just expand this to do it to everybody all the exact same time
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We'll just have these really big traumatic events that will traumatize them. We'll uproot everybody's lives and then we'll
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You know to turn it into then I'll give us the ability to pass the laws that we would otherwise not be able to do
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Okay, that's exactly like what happened with
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Uh
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Getting people into uh positions of power through the kids of military servicemen and women
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Okay, now that evolved out of there to everybody's kids
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Yeah, it was for tested first on those military kids
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Probably in laurel canyon all that stuff going on, you know, it's funny you say look out mountain you mentioned that I just saw two day
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That uh jared leto sold it for 12 million bucks. He bought it for five. Yep. I saw it today that he sold it
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Bro it was said that he was running a straight up cult out of that did you hear about that?
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Yeah, and he probably is and my assumption is that maybe they told him to sell it
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Like you're a little too hot right now. What would the whole cult leadership that you're doing?
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You know, maybe you need to leave our facility that you bought
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Right air quotes for us. Um, yeah, there's some fuckery of foot there for sure and and that guy is
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He's one step away from
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Uh, serving up kool-aid to all his followers. Um, damn man
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You're good. Totally right. He bought it for five million and he sold it for 12 months off the market
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So this was like a private sale
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Yeah, you don't exactly put that one on realtor.com. I don't I don't think
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I mean you could there there's probably some kind of freaks in uh
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In all area. Yeah, I mean it would be it's like like on that from a dollar per square foot standpoint
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It's a bang. It's a great deal. I mean you get it like a gigantic facility
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Not exactly like what a husband and wife with kids is looking for it
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What's the school district here around the lookout mountain? Oh
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This is you're probably gonna is probably gonna take you into some underground bunker or something and it's probably bad there. Um
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Let's wrap up with this. Let's give your
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Executive producer ken Swartz some some love for being involved in in the film. You know, we love ken ken is, uh
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The founder of uh c60 power you guys can go to shopc60.com promo code macro get your carbon 60
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ken the scientist man he
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He
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How was he involved he kicked in a little bit of money for it?
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Yes, he's the uh executive producer
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Well, no, he's the producer j is the executive producer. He uh, he produced the the movie for me and uh helped
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Help fund it and i'm very grateful to ken. He's a very big supporter of
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This movie and just a supporter of truth just in general
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So, uh, I'm very grateful for ken being involved with this project and hopefully will
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Fund uh projects uh in the future
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That I want to do a charlie kirk
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I want to do a charlie kirk one next brown
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Excellent excellent. Yeah ken ken lives not too far from me. We go to lunch all the time
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He's been to mexico for narcapulco a few times. He's he's he's a trip man. We we love ken. He's been on the show a bunch
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To um, let's wrap up with this. Where's the best place to find it? I watched it on amazon prime
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And so I know it's available there
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psychic agent the gate program
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Where is there is available anywhere else or is that should we direct everybody to
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prime that is the uh primary place
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That you can watch it. It's on a few other streaming uh platforms
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But that's just the easiest one that you can uh
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Purchase it on and yeah the the whole
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The very foundation of the reason that I wanted to make the movie was
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Not only give people a history of the psychic spy unit ran by the di a and army intelligence
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Which I feel like that is the first time that that's ever really been done a conclusive history
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But it was also to
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prove
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What they were doing in the uh gate program
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Uh
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Gifted and talented education in public school and we show documentation
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Real documentation in the movie of exactly what they were doing
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Also with uh mk ultra sub project 102
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Which was a summer camp where the cia was collecting data on 462 children
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mk ultra sub project
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83 which was all about the study of esp and psychic abilities and
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136 literally talks about psychic testing on children
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I hope people go and check it out. Yeah, you can rent it or purchase it
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On amazon prime and please leave a rating and uh, if you don't want to leave a review, that's fine, but uh,
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If you could leave a at least leave a rating
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And a review it will really help out
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The movie and help push it out the first three months of the movie being out is really important
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So, uh, thanks so much for having me on charlie. Really appreciate it. Glad you watched it and glad you really enjoyed it. Yeah
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Yeah, well this audience knows we're very vocal about
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Stuffing the ballot box in terms of rating because those bastards rig the algorithms against us on everything else
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Like if we have the ability to make sure that everybody who rents it or buys it
1:15:05
Gives it five stars and write something nice about it. Yes. We will most definitely do that
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We we we do that around here to fight back against
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Those bastards and if you went through the gate program, this this movie is not optional
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Okay, it is required viewing if you went through it. I mean a view after watching this you're you're you're you're gonna have to
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You're just gonna have to check it out for yourself. I've watched it. It is fantastic
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That's right early everybody go out there and support his work and connect with him
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Um, you can find it at amazon prime. I'm gonna put the link in the show notes
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So it's easy for everybody to check it out
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Thanks, everybody talk to you again soon