Latest / Morning Medical with Dr. Chow / Summer COVID Surge, AI in Healthcare, and the Benefits of Laughter
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- 0:00Good morning, and welcome to another episode of Morning Medical with Doctor Chow, your daily
- 0:05update on the latest medical and health news from around the world.
- 0:08I am your host, Doctor Chiu Ming Chow.
- 0:11Today, we have a packed episode with important topics ranging from a summer COVID surge to the
- 0:17role of artificial intelligence in health care and even some tips for your summer BBQ.
- 0:22So let us dive right in.
- 0:27Today, we are starting with a topic that has been on many people's minds recently, the
- 0:32summer COVID surge.
- 0:33The Centers for Disease Control And Prevention, or CDC, has issued a warning about a rise in
- 0:39COVID 19 infections across the United States.
- 0:43As of June 25th, 2024, the CDC estimates that COVID 19 infections are growing or likely
- 0:49growing.
- 0:50In 44 States and territories.
- 0:53Despite this increase, the data shows that hospitalizations and deaths remain low.
- 0:59Doctor Jay Varma, the chief medical officer at Ciga Technologies, a pharmaceutical company in
- 1:06New York City, explained that even though the pandemic was officially declared over on May
- 1:125th, 2023, public health officials do not collect the same amount of COVID data as they
- 1:18once did.
- 1:19However, the data available from the CDC, including from wastewater monitoring, indicates
- 1:24that COVID 19 infections are rising
- 1:33at NYU Langony Medical Center also acknowledged the recent uptick in cases.
- 1:39He stated that the rise in case is fueled by new variants known as VRT variants,
- 1:46specifically KP3, KP2, and KP 1.
- 1:50These variants have subvariance of the highly contagious jn1 variant and currently account
- 1:55for over half of all new cases.
- 1:581 question that often comes up is whether COVID 19 spreads more during the summer.
- 2:03Since COVID 19 first emerged in 2020, Scientists have observed that the virus has
- 2:09seasonal patterns with predictable peaks in spring, early summer, and winter.
- 2:15Doctor Obama noted that winter peaks are easier to explain due to more people spending time
- 2:21indoors, and changes in climate, including relative humidity that facilitate the spread of
- 2:27infections through the air.
- 2:29However, it is not quite as easy to explain the peak during warmer weather.
- 2:34It may be due to the virus evolving at a frequency that aligns with spring, and summer,
- 2:39or other environmental factors that we do not fully understand yet.
- 2:44Interestingly, doctor Siegel does not believe that COVID 19 is seasonal.
- 2:50He emphasized that COVID 19 is a respiratory virus and spreads when people huddle close
- 2:56together.
- 2:57Like all respiratory viruses, it spreads further in low humidity.
- 3:00He pointed out that COVID 19 has not shown itself to be seasonal.
- 3:04Meaning it can spread easily in warm weather as well.
- 3:08Doctor Siegel also mentioned that the flirts of variants are immuno evasive.
- 3:14Meaning people can get infected even if they had prior immunity.
- 3:18To reduce the chances of catching COVID 19 this summer, He advised that the same precautions
- 3:23apply year round.
- 3:25If you are sharing indoor air, such as on an airplane or in a crowded space, wearing a high
- 3:30quality mask can reduce your risk of getting infected.
- 3:34Additionally, if you have any cough or cold symptoms, including what you might think are
- 3:39allergies, It is a good idea to take a rapid test for COVID 19.
- 3:44Doctor I, Varma, agreed with the advice noting that being aware and using rapid testing when
- 3:50exposed or sick helps curb the spread.
- 3:52For high risk individuals who become infected, He recommended the use of Paxlivid, an
- 3:57antiviral medication that can help prevent severe illness.
- 4:02As of June 27th, 2024, The CDC recommends that all individuals aged 6 months and older get the
- 4:09updated 2024, 2025 COVID vaccines when they become available this fall.
- 4:16Doctor Siegel supported this advice stating that while flu and COVID vaccines only provide
- 4:21partial protection, They are extremely safe and can lead to fewer days of work or school mist,
- 4:27fewer days of misery, a lower risk of long COVID, and a reduced risk of spreading the
- 4:32infection to others who may be at risk of hospitalization or death.
- 4:37Doctor Di Varma also emphasized the importance of the updated vaccine, noting that it will
- 4:42target the new prevalent subvariance and will be particularly effective for high risk groups
- 4:48including the elderly.
- 4:50He recommended the vaccine as 1 of the effective tools for adults to decrease the
- 4:54severity of illness and the risk of long COVID symptoms.
- 4:59For younger individuals, he mentioned that it is a matter of choice, but he continues to
- 5:03advocate for the vaccine's effectiveness at decreasing the risk of long COVID.
- 5:09Our next topic today focuses on the transformative power of artificial intelligence
- 5:14in health care.
- 5:16Technology has been an enabler of health care for years from large organizations to small
- 5:21clinics.
- 5:22Providers worldwide have used applications data management platforms, and various systems to
- 5:28streamline operations and drive better clinical outcomes.
- 5:32While modernization efforts are ongoing, The strategic focus is shifting toward 1 major
- 5:37trend, artificial intelligence.
- 5:40At a time when health care providers are facing staff shortages, and patients continue to
- 5:47demand better quality of care.
- 5:49Artificial intelligence is being seen as the go to answer.
- 5:53The technology with its ability to tap into large data repositories including patient
- 5:59specific data can personalize care delivery.
- 6:03This can ultimately reshape how health care providers diagnose, treat, and interact with
- 6:10patients, enabling them to move away from generic 1 size fits all approaches.
- 6:17So how exactly is artificial intelligence personalizing care delivery?
- 6:21Although artificial intelligence has been around for quite some time, the meteoric rise
- 6:26of chat GPT has pushed its applications front and center within different levels of the
- 6:31health care ecosystem.
- 6:331 of these is diagnostics.
- 6:35Artificial intelligence driven systems can analyze vast amounts of patient data to provide
- 6:41personalized diagnosis and treatment recommendations.
- 6:45Watson Health, a division of International Business Machines Corporation, focusing on
- 6:50applying official intelligence and data analytics to health care is a front runner in
- 6:55this space.
- 6:56Their technology analyzes various patient parameters including medical history, genetics,
- 7:02and disease symptoms to diagnose the underlying condition and offer personalized treatment
- 7:07recommendations.
- 7:09According to a study published in the Journal of Clinical Oncology, Watson Health's Oncology
- 7:15specific artificial intelligence decision support system, achieved a 93% concordance rate
- 7:21with treatment recommendations of an expert tumor board.
- 7:25This high level of accuracy demonstrates how artificial intelligence powered personalization
- 7:31can improve diagnostic precision and treatment effectiveness.
- 7:36Ultimately leading to better patient outcomes.
- 7:39Beyond detecting and recommending treatments for ongoing problems, artificial intelligence
- 7:44driven personalization can also help with preventive care.
- 7:48Essentially, algorithms can analyze day to day patient metrics like blood oxygen saturation
- 7:54and blood pressure, and combine them with data related to lifestyle and genetics to predict
- 8:00the chances of a person suffering from a their health problem, as well as the steps they can
- 8:05take, such as specific lifestyle changes to prevent it.
- 8:10A study published in PLOS 1 demonstrated that an artificial intelligence driven approach
- 8:14could lead to a reduction in hospital readmissions and emergency department visits.
- 8:19This not only shifts patients' focus from reactive treatment to proactive prevention, but
- 8:24also saves health care providers' resources that would otherwise be going into extensive
- 8:29follow ups or treatment.
- 8:32However, personalizing prevention diagnosis, and treatments is just 1 bit of the health care
- 8:39puzzle.
- 8:41Artificial intelligence is also playing a crucial role in personalizing medical
- 8:45prescriptions, an area where 100% precision is vital.
- 8:50Incorrect drug prescriptions can lead to adverse reactions and even fatalities in some
- 8:56extreme cases.
- 8:58A 2016 study by Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine found that medical errors,
- 9:04including incorrect prescriptions, are responsible for over 250,000 deaths annually in
- 9:10the United States alone.
- 9:12Thankfully, artificial intelligence powered tools can address this issue by analyzing
- 9:17factors such as patients genetic makeup and medical histories to predict how they will
- 9:23respond to specific medications.
- 9:26This allows health care providers to tailor prescriptions to each patient individually,
- 9:31significantly reducing the risk of adverse and improving treatment efficacy.
- 9:37While clinical care is at the forefront of artificial intelligence personalization, the
- 9:41technology is also improving administrative processes in health care.
- 9:47It simplifies tasks such as appointment scheduling, billing, and assistance, making
- 9:52them more personalized and efficient.
- 9:54Zocdoc, an online platform for booking medical appointments, is an excellent example of
- 9:59artificial intelligence helping with administrative tasks.
- 10:02The company's platform uses machine learning to ensure appointments are seamlessly integrated
- 10:07into health care providers' schedules, potentially decreasing patient wait times, and
- 10:12increasing the likelihood of timely care.
- 10:15It even helps patients check their health care coverage and estimate the total cost of
- 10:20treatment by simply taking a photo of their health card.
- 10:24Another player in this category is Nobla, which uses large language models to generate clinical
- 10:29notes from doctor patient interactions.
- 10:32Saving the trouble of documenting the information manually.
- 10:36Notably, generative artificial intelligence powered chatbots and agents are also
- 10:41transforming patient engagement and improving their access to care.
- 10:46They analyze patient data, and provide them with round the clock access to personalized
- 10:51support, whether they need help with registration, routing, scheduling, or
- 10:55prescription refills, This technology has significantly improved the patient experience,
- 10:59making individuals feel more valued and understood.
- 11:03Overall, the impact of artificial intelligence powered personalization on health care is
- 11:08substantial and growing.
- 11:10The technology has already enhanced patient caregiver interact enables tailored
- 11:15prescriptions and improve preventive care strategies, making health care more efficient,
- 11:20effective, and patient centric.
- 11:22As artificial intelligence continues to advance, its potential to revolutionize health
- 11:28care will likely expand.
- 11:31Future developments may include further personalization of treatment plans and deeper
- 11:36integration of artificial intelligence across all aspects of health care delivery.
- 11:41However, as these advancements take shape, it will be equally vital to address potential
- 11:46challenges associated with artificial intelligence, especially the privacy and
- 11:51security of health care data used by artificial intelligence models.
- 11:57Organizations using these tools should strive to maintain the human touch in patient care and
- 12:03help address potential biases in artificial intelligence algorithms.
- 12:08It will all boil down to how they collaborate with companies developing these tools and the
- 12:13governments defining the regulations for using them.
- 12:17In the long run, the potential benefits of artificial intelligence powered personalization
- 12:22in health care will be immense.
- 12:26By embracing this technology responsibly and ethically, the health care industry can move
- 12:31towards a future where truly personalized care is the norm, leading to better health outcomes
- 12:37for all.
- 12:39Our next topic today is about the 6 priorities for a national healthcare artificial
- 12:44intelligence strategy from our friends in the United Kingdom.
- 12:49The United States is far from alone in its efforts across public and private sectors to
- 12:54adopt promising health care artificial intelligence innovations quickly yet safely.
- 12:59Our close economic and military allies in the United Kingdom are among those striving to
- 13:04manage their own health care, artificial intelligence challenges.
- 13:08So what can we learn from their approach?
- 13:11Quite a lot, according to a paper published on June 26th by the Health Foundation, an
- 13:15independent nonprofit focused on driving continuous improvements into United Kingdom
- 13:20Healthcare.
- 13:22The document is primarily aimed at lobbying Britain's National Health service, the 2nd
- 13:26largest single payer health care system in the world after Brazil.
- 13:30However, it is an open document that offers easily digestible insight for any health care
- 13:36artificial intelligence stakeholders striving to maximize health care artificial
- 13:40intelligences benefits while minimizing its risks.
- 13:44The health foundation begins by highlighting the immense pressures faced by the National
- 13:50Health Service due to escalating demand for health care services and significant workforce
- 13:55shortages.
- 13:56A strategy is particularly needed to ensure the benefits of artificial intelligence can be
- 14:02realized at scale across the National Health Service rather than just in a few pockets of
- 14:08excellence.
- 14:09The health foundation rights in its introduction.
- 14:12The paper outlines 6 priorities to guide policy makers and health care leaders as they
- 14:19formulate and promote this strategy.
- 14:22The first priority is that the use of artificial intelligence should be shaped by the
- 14:26public patients and health care staff to ensure the technology works for them.
- 14:32An artificial intelligence and health care strategy should be based on a deep
- 14:36understanding of what people in the United Kingdom think about artificial intelligence
- 14:41driven health technologies.
- 14:43It should ensure there are effective mechanisms in place for engaging patients, the public, and
- 14:49national health service staff on relevant topics as they arise to inform high level
- 14:54decision making.
- 14:56The authors also emphasized the importance of involving patients and staff the co design of
- 15:02artificial intelligence solutions to harness their potential in a way that works for all.
- 15:09The second priority is that the National Health Service must focus artificial intelligence
- 15:14development and deployment in the right areas.
- 15:18An artificial intelligence in health care strategy should support local innovation and
- 15:23experimentation while also setting out a small number of high level priorities where
- 15:28artificial intelligence can help address key challenges the National Health Service faces,
- 15:33both administrative and operational, as well as clinical.
- 15:37The strategy should support the demonstration testing, and spread of these tools.
- 15:42As part of this, the strategy will need to maintain effective horizon scanning functions
- 15:47and provide opportunities and mechanisms for National Health Service staff and provider
- 15:52organizations to signal where artificial intelligence could help most.
- 15:57The 3rd priority is that the National Health Service needs data and digital infrastructure
- 16:02that will enable it to capitalize on the potential of artificial intelligence.
- 16:07An artificial intelligence and health care strategy should ensure the National Health
- 16:12Services Digital Infrastructure is fit for purpose and set out how processes can be
- 16:17standardized and improved to allow efficient access to high quality data for the development
- 16:23of artificial intelligence systems.
- 16:25Such access should be based on a proportionate approach to data security and privacy that
- 16:30effectively balances risk and opportunity.
- 16:34The 4th priority is that the use of artificial intelligence in the National Health Service
- 16:39must be underpinned by high quality testing and evaluation.
- 16:44The success of artificial intelligence in practice depends on how well the technology
- 16:49performs in live health care settings.
- 16:52Therefore, any national strategy must consider how to broker and support more opportunities
- 16:57for testing artificial intelligence technologies in real world settings.
- 17:01An artificial intelligence and health care strategy must support the further development
- 17:06of evaluation frameworks appropriate for artificial intelligence and boost the capacity
- 17:12to evaluate artificial intelligence as it is developed and implemented in the National
- 17:17Health Service.
- 17:19The 5th priority is that the National Health Service needs a clear and consistent regulatory
- 17:25regime for artificial intelligence.
- 17:28There is particular concern among clinicians about where clinical liability sits when
- 17:33algorithms are used in clinical decision making so providing regulatory clarity here will be
- 17:39essential.
- 17:40An artificial intelligence and health care strategy must prioritize the coordination of
- 17:45sexual regulators, bringing all relevant bodies together under an agreed upon approach that
- 17:51addresses gaps and overlaps.
- 17:54The 6th and final priority is that the health care workforce must have the right skills and
- 17:59capabilities to capitalize on artificial intelligence.
- 18:03Ultimately, there needs to be a shared vision for how professions and occupations as well as
- 18:10new roles should develop with greater use of artificial intelligence.
- 18:16National Health Service staff themselves should play a central role in the development of this
- 18:22vision.
- 18:23In partnership with their colleagues, employers, trade unions, professional and
- 18:29representative bodies patients, and the public.
- 18:32An artificial intelligence in health care strategy must set out concrete plans to equip
- 18:37the current and future workforce with the skills needed for using artificial
- 18:41intelligence, develop career paths that allow health care workers to specialize in artificial
- 18:47intelligence.
- 18:47And empower staff to shape the evolution of their roles.
- 18:52In conclusion, the 6 priorities outlined by the Health Foundation provide a comprehensive
- 18:57framework for developing a national health care artificial intelligence strategy by focusing on
- 19:02public and staff engagement, targeted development, and deployment.
- 19:06Robust data infrastructure, high quality testing and evaluation, clear regulatory
- 19:11regimes, and workforce development.
- 19:13The United Kingdom aims to harness the full potential of artificial intelligence in health
- 19:18care while addressing its inherent challenges.
- 19:22These priorities offer valuable lessons for other countries, including the United States,
- 19:27as they navigate the complex landscape of health care artificial intelligence.
- 19:33As barbecue season kicks off, experts advise Canadians to take precautions when grilling red
- 19:39meats and hot dogs.
- 19:40While those tempting char marks add flavor, they also carry potential health risks.
- 19:45Fortunately, you can enjoy your favorite grilled foods while minimizing the danger.
- 19:51Coking meat at high temperatures can create potentially harmful chemicals.
- 19:55These include polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, abbreviated as PAH and heterocyclic amines
- 20:02abbreviated as HCA's.
- 20:04While a direct link to human cancer has not been established, laboratory experiments show
- 20:08they can alter DNA in ways that might increase cancer risk according to the United States
- 20:14National Cancer Institute.
- 20:17Elizabeth Holmes, director of health policy with the Canadian Cancer Society warns, there
- 20:23are 2 things to be aware of when it comes to barbecuing.
- 20:26The first is that red and processed meat, like beef, hot dogs, or sausages, are types of red
- 20:33processed meat that might increase your colorectal cancer risk any way that you cook
- 20:38them.
- 20:38And then research shows that cooking those meats plus poultry, and fish.
- 20:45At high temperatures, including barbecuing, may increase your risk of cancer.
- 20:51And that is because those cancer causing substances are formed when the meat is cooked
- 20:56at that high heat.
- 20:59However, there are barbecue habits that can reduce your risk of exposure to cancer causing
- 21:04chemicals, including marinating, choosing leaner cuts of meat and grilling on low heat.
- 21:10The key home's cautions is to avoid charring the meat The resulting smoke and charred bits
- 21:16contain carcinogens that can increase cancer risk.
- 21:20HCA is a formed when amino acids sugars, and creatine or creatinine, which are substances
- 21:27found in muscle, react at high temperatures, the National Institutes of Health stated on its
- 21:32website.
- 21:33PAHs occur when fat and juices from meat grilled directly over a heated surface or open
- 21:40fire drip onto the surface or fire causing flames and smoke.
- 21:46The smoke contains PAH that then stick to the surface of the meat.
- 21:52PAs can also be formed during other food preparation processes such as the smoking of
- 21:57meat.
- 21:59The formation of HCA's and PAH's varies by meat type cooking method and doneness level, whether
- 22:05rare, medium, or well done.
- 22:07The National Institutes of Health Reports.
- 22:10Regardless of the meat, high temperature cooking methods like grilling or pan frying
- 22:14above 148 degrees Celsius, and longer cooking times generally lead to higher levels of these
- 22:22compounds.
- 22:23For example, the National Institutes of Health said well done grilled or barbecue chicken and
- 22:29steak are high in HCA's.
- 22:31Also, cooking methods that expose meat to smoke like grilling over an open flame contribute to
- 22:38PAH formation.
- 22:40The American Institute for Cancer Research said there is not enough evidence to show that
- 22:45grilled meat specifically increases the risk for cancers, but we do know that cooking meat
- 22:50at a high temperature like grilling creates cancer causing substances.
- 22:56These carcinogens can cause changes in the DNA that may lead to cancer.
- 22:59The American Institute for Cancer Research said on its website.
- 23:04The Canadian Cancer Society advises limiting red meat to 3 servings each week.
- 23:09A serving is 85 grams when cooked, which is smaller than a deck of cards.
- 23:15The organization was a step further and recommends avoiding processed meats entirely or
- 23:21limiting them as much as possible.
- 23:23This includes ham, bacon, salami, nay, and hot dogs.
- 23:27Processed meats are any meat preserved by smoking, curing, bowing, salting, or adding
- 23:32preservative.
- 23:33These preservation methods can lead to the formation of cancer causing substances, but you
- 23:40do not have to put away that barbecue yet.
- 23:42Keith Warner, a food safety professor at the University of Guelph, said that unless you are
- 23:47eating barbecue every single day, you should not be overly concerned.
- 23:51There is a link between these carcinogens in meat and barbecuing.
- 23:54The reality is that with barbecues, we do not get to barbecue every day of the year.
- 23:59In a lot of cases, it is just a week or 2.
- 24:03So we should not be overly concerned.
- 24:05He said, The best way to safeguard against cancerous compounds when grilling meat on the
- 24:11barbecue is by marinating it.
- 24:13Warner said, He recommends using a beer marinade, if possible, as it has been proven to
- 24:19contain antioxidants that help prevent the formation of harmful compounds.
- 24:24Like HCA's and PAH's.
- 24:26For example, a 2022 study published in the International Journal of Environmental Research
- 24:32And Public Health found that marinating with beer can significantly lower the PAH contents
- 24:38in grilled meat.
- 24:39The study found that black beer had the most significant effect.
- 24:44It comes down to marinating with things that have high antioxidants.
- 24:47Warner said, what happens is that you are coating the meat and these hydrocarbons come
- 24:53along, it kind of neutralizes them.
- 24:56Adding honey, vinegar, oils, lemon juice, and herbs to your meat about 30 minutes before
- 25:02grilling has also been shown to help reduce the formation of cancerous compounds.
- 25:08To further reduce your exposure to HCA's and PAH's, consider precooking your meat partially
- 25:14in the oven or microwave.
- 25:16The American Institute for Cancer Research said that doing this shortens the high heat cooking
- 25:21time on the grill, minimizing the formation of these harmful chemicals.
- 25:27Trimming the fat off your meat can also reduce flare ups and jarring the American Institute
- 25:32for Cancer Research said, choose leaner cuts of meat for barbecuing, and you can barbecue it
- 25:38slowly, not directly on that high heat.
- 25:41Homes suggested.
- 25:42Adding that instead of barbecuing meat, you can try vegetables.
- 25:46So think about all the vegetables and fruits you can put on the barbecue and still have the
- 25:51fun of barbecuing and being outside.
- 25:55Now let us switch gears a bit and talk about something a little more lighthearted.
- 25:59Did you know that July 1st is international joke day?
- 26:02Yes.
- 26:03It is a day dedicated to laughter, humor, and all things funny.
- 26:07While it is a great excuse to share your favorite jokes and have a good laugh with
- 26:11friends and family, there are also some surprising health benefits to laughing out
- 26:15loud.
- 26:16Laughter is often called the best medicine and for good reason.
- 26:21It has numerous physical, mental, and emotional benefits.
- 26:26First, let us talk about stress relief.
- 26:29When you laugh, your body releases endorphins, which are natural feel good chemicals.
- 26:35These endorphins promote an overall sense of well-being and can temporarily relieve pain.
- 26:41Laughter also reduces the level of stress hormones such as cortisol and adrenaline in
- 26:46your body, which can help you feel more relaxed.
- 26:50Another benefit of laughing is that it can improve your cardiovascular health, laughing
- 26:55increases your heart rate and blood flow, similar to the effects of a mild to moderate
- 27:00workout.
- 27:01This cardiovascular exercise helps improve the function of your blood vessels and can reduce
- 27:06your risk of heart disease.
- 27:08So the next time you have a good laugh, think of it as a mini workout for your heart.
- 27:14Laughter also boosts your immune system.
- 27:17It increases the production of antibodies and activates immune cells, such as T cells, which
- 27:23help protect your body against infections.
- 27:25This means that by laughing more often, you can potentially improve your resistance to
- 27:31illnesses.
- 27:33Mental health is another area where laughter can make a significant impact.
- 27:38Laughing can help reduce feelings of anxiety and depression by promoting a sense of
- 27:43connection and social bonding.
- 27:45When you laugh with others, it strengthens your relationship and creates a positive social
- 27:50environment.
- 27:51This can be particularly beneficial for people who may feel isolated or lonely.
- 27:56Lastly, laughter can improve your cognitive function.
- 28:00It stimulates both sides of your brain, enhancing your creativity, and problem solving
- 28:04abilities.
- 28:05This mental stimulation can help keep your brain sharp and improve your overall cognitive
- 28:10performance.
- 28:12So on this international joke day, make it a point to share some laughs with your loved
- 28:17ones.
- 28:18Whether it is through watching a funny movie, telling jokes, or simply reminiscing about
- 28:23funny memories, take some time to enjoy the lighter side of life.
- 28:28Not only will you have a great time, but you will also be doing wonders for your health.
- 28:33That brings us to the end of today's episode of morning medical with Doctor Chow.
- 28:38We covered a lot of ground today from the summer COVID surge to the transformative power
- 28:44of artificial intelligence and health care, tips to minimize cancer risk from grilling and
- 28:49the health benefits of laughter.
- 28:51Thank you for joining me.
- 28:52And I hope you found this information valuable.
- 28:55Stay healthy.
- 28:56Stay safe and keep laughing.
- 28:58Have a great day.