Latest / Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning / Ohio State Recruiting Update: Can Ohio State Flip Some Commits?

Transcript

Ohio State Recruiting Update: Can Ohio State Flip Some Commits? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buck Guys Tomorrow Morning for Monday, September twenty nine,
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: sem of your hoachs tom or the Minnesota game in
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: five days. The game gets Michigan in sixty one days.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: If you're planning your next event, make it unforgettable with
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Grateful Griddle, Thumas's favorite food truck serving up smashburger scoremet
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: sandwiches and good vibes. Book your catering today at grateful
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: Griddle oh dot com. A little bit untraditional today, Tony
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: and I are still on our way back from the
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: Seattle and the buck Eyes twenty four to six win
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: over the Washington Huskies. So you have a ton of
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: coverage from that game that you can find on our
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: You can find it on the.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: Buck Eye Weekly podcast feed and of course on the
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: Bluck Guys Tomorrow Morning podcast feed. In previous episodes, so
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: today give us a chance to get caught up on recruiting.
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: Mark and Juck on the Skull Session Recruiting podcast just
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: did an episode breaking down the commitment of only twenty
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: seven safety Angela Smith, some of the new offers the
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: buck Guys are put out and as well as updates
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: on some potential flip candidates, so great chance to get
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: caught up on recruiting.
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: So here's that.
• 0:55
  Speaker 3: Show and welcome to the buck Ey Huddle Skull Session.
• 1:00
  Speaker 3: I'm Juck Maletti. He's Mark Givler.
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: Mark. How you doing today, Bud doing good?
• 1:04
  Speaker 4: Getting ready for a big weekend in college football is
• 1:08
  Speaker 4: unbelievable Saturday.
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: It's a banging week.
• 1:10
  Speaker 3: It is a banging week for sure, and the Buck
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: guys headed out to Washington as we sit down to
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: record this a game that's been really hyped up. I'm
• 1:18
  Speaker 3: really excited for it. I'm feeling great about the buck
• 1:20
  Speaker 3: guys shot here. I don't think it's gonna be as
• 1:23
  Speaker 3: close as everybody else as I put in my prediction
• 1:25
  Speaker 3: where you can find all of our staff predictions over
• 1:28
  Speaker 3: at Buckehidle dot com, as well as an article I
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: wrote recently on Jaden Williams, who is one of the
• 1:33
  Speaker 3: topics people talk about today. But we're gonna start with
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: Angelo Smith, younger brother of Jeremiah Smith. And Mark we
• 1:39
  Speaker 3: talked a while about our opinions on Angelo. I actually
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: brought it up on last week's show after the commitment
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: of Angelo that when you were down there in Florida.
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: You tweeted something that we had kind of talked about.
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: The way Angelo plays it looks like somebody kicked his dog,
• 1:54
  Speaker 3: And I love that line. He's a nasty dude. Tell
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: us about him because you just recently saw him.
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he couldn't be different or more different physically from
• 2:04
  Speaker 4: Jeremiah in terms of their stature. I mean, he's, you know,
• 2:07
  Speaker 4: we're talking five to ten versus Jeremiah be in six' three,
• 2:10
  Speaker 4: He's not two hundred and twenty five pounds, but he
• 2:14
  Speaker 4: he's an absolute missile out there on defense. I was
• 2:16
  Speaker 4: so surprised by how impressed I was with him when
• 2:22
  Speaker 4: I was down there when they played in that Broward
• 2:25
  Speaker 4: County showcase in August, and he just plays angry. He's
• 2:31
  Speaker 4: very fast. He plays even faster than he runs, like
• 2:35
  Speaker 4: in terms of forty times. He's placed, got great play speed, instinctual,
• 2:40
  Speaker 4: had an interception, made a very nice catch on the
• 2:43
  Speaker 4: sideline that Jeremiah would have been proud of. Kind of
• 2:45
  Speaker 4: one of these over against the sideline. He's able to
• 2:48
  Speaker 4: get his feet down, so very rangy and very aggressive
• 2:52
  Speaker 4: and physical. I think he will bring a lot of
• 2:56
  Speaker 4: versatility to the secondary. He could certainly in my opinion,
• 2:59
  Speaker 4: play he's some free safety because of his range and
• 3:02
  Speaker 4: because of his ability to come up and run support
• 3:04
  Speaker 4: and play fast. But he's also physical enough to play
• 3:07
  Speaker 4: more of a strong safety. But he's also, in my opinion,
• 3:10
  Speaker 4: has some skill sets that would maybe be intriguing at
• 3:13
  Speaker 4: the nickel spot. So I think he's got a little
• 3:16
  Speaker 4: bit of everything there. He's not gonna play outside corner
• 3:19
  Speaker 4: or anything like that, but he's got some versatility there
• 3:21
  Speaker 4: within the secondary. And you know, in the era of
• 3:27
  Speaker 4: over eighty five scholarships, now this makes a lot of
• 3:31
  Speaker 4: sense to me, given his versatility, his pedigree, and quite frankly,
• 3:34
  Speaker 4: how he's played so far as a junior.
• 3:39
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up, and that to me
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: is a lot of this is I had a lot
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: of people saying, whatever, it's just Jeremiah's little brother. And
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: the thing is, it is Jeremiah's little brother, and he
• 3:49
  Speaker 3: is a little undersized.
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: I think the odds are pretty well that we're going
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: to see at least a couple more inches right now.
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: What would you say is five nine and a half.
• 3:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, between five nine and a half and five ten.
• 4:01
  Speaker 4: He's not tall.
• 4:03
  Speaker 3: So if he gets to you know, five eleven six foot,
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: we're talking Jaylen McClain right there. And he's built kind
• 4:10
  Speaker 3: of similarly to Jayalen McClain, who's, you know, was a
• 4:13
  Speaker 3: three ish forest star borderline prospect like i Angelo is
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: now and has kind of taken this defense by storm.
• 4:20
  Speaker 3: And when we talk about guys that you might, you know,
• 4:23
  Speaker 3: be a borderline guy or maybe take a flyer on,
• 4:25
  Speaker 3: it might be true that maybe if he wasn't Jeremiah's brother,
• 4:29
  Speaker 3: they might not have. But in this era where you
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: have the ability to take a couple extra flyers, I
• 4:34
  Speaker 3: would say that normally you'd want to spend those in
• 4:37
  Speaker 3: Ohio on the line. And then Jeremiah Smith's little brother
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: seems to make a whole heck of a lot of
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: sense to me, especially when he plays like he does.
• 4:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, I was, I was as skeptical
• 4:50
  Speaker 4: as anyone when I went down the floor and I'm like, okay,
• 4:55
  Speaker 4: let's let's see. I mean, is he even going to start?
• 4:58
  Speaker 4: You know at Shamanad they're so loaded, and sure enough
• 5:01
  Speaker 4: he was like the best defensive player that night. So
• 5:05
  Speaker 4: that was eye opening for me, you know, I fully
• 5:09
  Speaker 4: admit I was not. I was very much in the
• 5:12
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, you know, this is a thank you to
• 5:14
  Speaker 4: Jeremiah for his contributions. And but he played really well
• 5:18
  Speaker 4: that nice a really good season. The coaches there talk
• 5:22
  Speaker 4: very highly of him his work ethic, and it's funny.
• 5:25
  Speaker 4: I made another comment. I don't know if I put
• 5:26
  Speaker 4: this on Twitter or up, but it made another comment.
• 5:28
  Speaker 4: He Another way to describe his play style or his
• 5:32
  Speaker 4: work ethic is that he attacks this thing as though
• 5:38
  Speaker 4: his older brother is a generational talent who got all
• 5:41
  Speaker 4: the attention growing up, and he was the overlooked you know, Oh,
• 5:45
  Speaker 4: and that's that's his little brother. You know. He plays
• 5:48
  Speaker 4: like he's got that little brother syndrome type of thing,
• 5:51
  Speaker 4: and it comes out in a very good positive way
• 5:54
  Speaker 4: in terms of how hard he works and how physical
• 5:57
  Speaker 4: he is on the football field. So he plays exactly
• 6:00
  Speaker 4: how you would expect someone who's maybe that overlooked his
• 6:03
  Speaker 4: entire childhood because of his older brother would play.
• 6:07
  Speaker 3: That is exactly the impression I get. That's exactly the
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: impression I get. Just watch and it just looks like that.
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: You could call it, you know, some people call it
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: short man syndrome. I would call it overlook syndrome, underestimated
• 6:19
  Speaker 3: underestimated syndrome.
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: We'll call it that.
• 6:21
  Speaker 3: He's got a little extra ooph about him and listening
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: to him talk, it's clear this is not some pampered kid,
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: little brother who's you know, his brother just hit it
• 6:29
  Speaker 3: big and you know, like he wants to come and
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: make it his own.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: And I love it. I love the attitude.
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: I think it's something that Buckeye fans should be excited about,
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: not just a throw in offer to say thanks to Jeremiah.
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: For sure, the dude's a player. Speaking of that, Jaden
• 6:47
  Speaker 3: Williams gets his offer. And we talked about Jaden Williams
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: when I was recapping the Glenville Massalin game with Cincer
• 6:55
  Speaker 3: Johnson and jamieer Press to start off the high school
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: football season, and Aidan Williams was over there and playing
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: from Massaline and kind.
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: Of stole the show that night.
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: At six foot one, two oh five, the guy has
• 7:08
  Speaker 3: tremendous speed for a linebacker and ad just an innate
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: ability uh to make his way to the tackle. I mean,
• 7:15
  Speaker 3: like you use the old stereotypical nose for the ball
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: for guys like this, I mean the dude is just
• 7:20
  Speaker 3: always in on the tackle, making plays, and he's got
• 7:23
  Speaker 3: that speed to go sideline to sideline. When we look
• 7:25
  Speaker 3: at CJSNA and Sincere Johnson and Riley Petta john and TJ.
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: Alford and Eli Lee, these guys are all a little
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: bit bigger Jayden a little bit smaller, a little bit
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: more speed. I think it makes a whole lot of sense,
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: particularly when we're all looking at r Vel saying Okay,
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: he's going to be gone, which means that gives you
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: with CJ and Sincere seven next year in the room,
• 7:49
  Speaker 3: let's go ahead and take another another one here that
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: we got sitting right here in the backyard, who's kind
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: of blowing up.
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Jayden?
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 7:57
  Speaker 4: I think you alluded to to what we're what the
• 8:02
  Speaker 4: mindset is right now, which is you don't know until
• 8:05
  Speaker 4: you know in terms of your players on your roster.
• 8:07
  Speaker 4: So like with Rvel, the hype was substantial this offseason,
• 8:11
  Speaker 4: and we got a glimpse of him last year of course,
• 8:13
  Speaker 4: where he played well, But you put those first few
• 8:17
  Speaker 4: games on tape and it's like, I don't think I'm
• 8:19
  Speaker 4: spoiling anything. I don't see a universe where rvel Reese
• 8:23
  Speaker 4: is on Ohio State's roster in twenty twenty six, so
• 8:27
  Speaker 4: that means you have some wiggle room here. In addition,
• 8:31
  Speaker 4: and again we're talking about this eighty five rul going away,
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: where you have some extra roster spots as well for
• 8:36
  Speaker 4: late bloomers. And the one thing I'll say that is
• 8:40
  Speaker 4: encouraging about Jayden beyond just if you just watch him,
• 8:43
  Speaker 4: but just general philosophically speaking, guys who get really good
• 8:49
  Speaker 4: late in their high school careers have a have a
• 8:52
  Speaker 4: pretty high hit rate. It's the guys who it's the
• 8:55
  Speaker 4: guys who kind of max out their sophomore junior years
• 8:57
  Speaker 4: that you get a little nervous about. We've seen, you know,
• 9:00
  Speaker 4: we can provide a lot of examples out of the
• 9:02
  Speaker 4: years guys who really were kind of physically what they
• 9:04
  Speaker 4: were as sophomores or even early in their junior years,
• 9:07
  Speaker 4: and it doesn't it's just they kind of hit a wall,
• 9:10
  Speaker 4: a development wall. And these guys who kind of come
• 9:13
  Speaker 4: out of nowhere, you know, late into their junior years
• 9:17
  Speaker 4: or in the off season between their junior and senior
• 9:19
  Speaker 4: year and then carry that in their senior The hit
• 9:20
  Speaker 4: rate on those guys historically is incredibly high. And so
• 9:24
  Speaker 4: that's another thing I think Jayden's got going for him.
• 9:27
  Speaker 4: But this just makes sense. You know, you're not You're
• 9:30
  Speaker 4: not gonna have to like break the bank on like
• 9:33
  Speaker 4: a Tyler Atkinson at this point. It's just not going
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: to happen. So unless something falls into your lap. But
• 9:38
  Speaker 4: you've got a really good player right here in your
• 9:40
  Speaker 4: backyard from a great program and a guy who's having
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: a great senior season, and you're able to sort of
• 9:47
  Speaker 4: get him into this equation, hopefully for them, and and uh,
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: maybe offset what could be maybe a slightly unexpected loss
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: of r bel Reis or at least getting the confirmation
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: of yeah, Rville is what we thought he was, and
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: he's probably not gonna be here.
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: In addition, James Lorenitis also offered Jacob Curry about a
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: week prior. Jacob Curry, a Florida linebacker who's similar to
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: Jaydon Williams, is coming on strong and all of a sudden,
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: he's kind of the talk of the town, catching some
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: big offers. Looks like Oklahoma, Auburn or in pretty big
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: on him as well as Baylor, and that I don't know,
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: I believe he is coming up from Minnesota. I think
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: I did hear that, so he'll be in for Minnesota.
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: Jaden Williams not scheduled as of yet to Minnesota. And
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: of course he is committed to Indiana. And when we
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: look at Indiana, yeah, it's a program. When I first
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: saw that he was committed to Indiana before the offer,
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: I was thinking, if this is the kind of guy
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: that Signette's gonna get, things look pretty good because we
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: saw what Mark D'Antonio did with that caliber a player
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: out of the state of Ohio. The guys that are
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: just borderline Ohio state guys don't get it. He comes
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: in and swipes him. And Indiana they've got a lot
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: of money, they've got financial support, they've got their revenue
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: share in Jaden Williams is going to be higher on
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: their totem poll of priorities than he's going to be
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: on Ohio states.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. So there is going
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: to be a little bit of a back and forth here.
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens.
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's a slam dunk like it would
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: have been in two thousand and five, we'll put it
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: that way, But I would certainly love to add this player.
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: I think that he is definitely not just Ohio State worthy,
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: but I'm legitimately.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: Excited about this kid, all right.
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: Moving along, Drake Quinn Mark Drake Quinn a defensive edge
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: rusher who was committed to Clemson. The Buckeys were kind
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: of flirting here with him, and then he just recently
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: decommitted from Clemson, I believe two nights ago now, which
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: puts him all the way back on the market. I
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: think Texas was the runner up before he chose Clemson
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: or close to that. And they're obviously heavy involved. Buck guys,
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: definitely heavy involved. What are we hearing about this?
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think obviously o High State's trying to get
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: them up for an official visit. They're trying to get
• 12:07
  Speaker 4: him up for the Minnesota game. And this is one
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: of those situations where I think you just kind of
• 12:11
  Speaker 4: wait and see, you know, does it look particularly good
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: right now for Ohio State. No. If he comes out,
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: you know, this weekend or Monday or Tuesday and says, hey,
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be up in Columbus for the official
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: and in one locks that in, then I think you
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: start to, you know, up up your optimism levels a
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: little bit, but it at least shows that they are
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: like paying attention, They're scouring for opportunities. You know, they've
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: they've tried to clearly. I think Clemson is like in
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: everyone's crosshairs right now. Right if you're Georgia, if you're
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: you know, Alabama, Florida something, you know, if you're down
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: in that part of the country, or or even if
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: you're a you know, a Notre damer in Ohio state.
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: I think everyone's looking at that Clemson class like, oh,
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: let's let's see here, let's see what because they are
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: having a rough go of it right now. You know,
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: every week Dabo's answering questions about whether he's you know,
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: you know gotten, things have gotten stale at Clemson, and
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: like it's just not good optics for Clemson right now.
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: And so we got to you know, I use this
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: term all the time for like recruits, like the blood
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: is in the water. So here, you know, the sharks
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: are circling now that Clemson class, So it makes sense
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: to try and pick away at that.
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely the player, Hey, Sky's the limit man, got
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: a huge frame, moves pretty quick. I think he's about
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: six five, two thirty. Uh, you know, top four hundred
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: guy right now, but obviously a ton of potential. Uh,
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: if they can get him up, you know, it would
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: be awesome. Does look like potentially a guy that Texas
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: might you know, value a little more in the terms
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: of in the terms of the financial offer than the warre.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: Ohio State is currently operating right now, but we'll see
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: you get him up on campus. And this is someone
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: that they've already made contact with and been talking to,
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: So we'll keep you guys posted on that. Speaking to
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: Larry Johnson over the weekend when the coaches went and
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: traveled around last weekend, watched some high school games.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: Larry went to Jersey.
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: Larry went to Jersey to to take in Luke Wayfele,
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: as did Penn State. Obviously, you know, Penn State for
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: sure gonna want to try to do that. They've still
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: got the brother on the team. That's that's a poll there.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: It's closer. A lot of people excited about about the
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: potential there and that Larry is still trying and still
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: interested in Wayfel As we know, Ohio State kind of
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: had the leg up there right before USC came in
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: at the end and threw the hammer off or down.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: They kind of made it, you know, a little too
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: irresistible to refuse, and he committed to USC. What are
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: your thoughts on this and do you see this going
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: potentially anywhere or are you in my camp where this
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: feels like maybe that time could have been invested elsewhere,
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: maybe finding a new prospect here as we've not seen
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: any new defensive ends offered.
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think it's a waste of time
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: if you think if you think Wayful is you know,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: a Bosa brother, and I think they think he's pretty special.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: Like I don't think they think he's just a run
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: of the mill force. So I think they think he's
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: one of the top two or three defensive ends in
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: the country. Then you have to keep trying here, especially
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: for a kid who's committed to go, you know, whatever
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: it is, it's got to be what three thousand miles
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: just about from from Jersey to LA I think you
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: keep at it. USC start probably isn't helping things if
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: you're Penn State or Ohio State. That being said, we're
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: gonna learn a lot more about USC the next four
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: to five weeks because they've not really been put in
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: a tough spot yet, and who knows what they'll do
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: against Illinois. I mean, if they're they're a touchdown favorite
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: against the Illinois team that got you know, shockingly blown
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: out by Indiana last week. So we'll see what happened
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: is there. But I do think some of this obviously,
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: you know what, I'm not dumb. Money's gonna factor in this.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: I think Ohio State's probably gonna have to up whatever
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: their previous you know, dealings were, and and you know,
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: bridge a gap somewhere there. But I also think, you know,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: certainly be helpful for for Penn State and Ohio State
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: if USC were to stumble in October and you know,
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: this four and no start's got everyone talking about them,
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: and you know, if they come out, you know, if
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: they're five and three in a month or something like that,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: or even you know, six and three in November at
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: some point and things have cooled off a little bit
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: and we're not even talking about them as a playoff
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: team anymore or anything like that, I think that could
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: also help. But you know, I wouldn't predict a flip
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: at this point. But I also don't think it's a waste.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: I think when I think there are certain guys it's
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: not a waste of time, for like, if you just
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: think they're that good and they're still listening to you.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: I think this is one of them.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I don't mean to say a waste
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: of time, but maybe time could have been spent better elsewhere.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: And what I mean by this mark is we are
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: looking at Keenan Bailey, who's you know, checking out Max
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Sutter still, but also talking to some other tight ends
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: that we've talked about recently, you know, making some offers
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: here or there. We've got mac Rreary is obviously made
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: a couple of offers recently. Tim Walton's made a couple
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: of offers recently, but he's still talking to Danny Odam
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: and going to see Danny Odam play on Friday. I
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: just would like to see some more movement with somebody
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: else in addition to going and visiting Luke. I don't
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: think we've seen it, however, I do feel, you know
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: a little bit better about Edge regardless, just based on
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: the season we're seeing out of Cary Wilder and I
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: think that obviously, as we've talked before, we really both
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: pretty much big believers in Zion Grady as well as
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: ePIE sitani Le that they'll eventually be a big time
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: contribut years for Ohio States. So it just seems to
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: me like there's no action here. You've got Drew Gooden
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: out at UCLA, who is you know, at the top
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: one hundred kid from rivals, and he doesn't have an
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: offer from Ohio State that I don't know. I just
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: would like to see some more movement with some new prospects.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: We're not seeing it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I don't disagree with that. I think
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: it would. It would put some minds at rest if
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: we did see, you know, three or four new offers.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: So what does that tell you? You know, one of two things.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: It either tells you that they feel really good about
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: something they've got cooking up. Or and this is maybe
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: the more likely UH scenario, it's hard to find good
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: pass rusher like there are just you can go to
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: every major major metro area and you can't walk three
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: blocks without stumbling over a running back or a safety.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: But you know, if you you know to find those
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: special type of edge rushers, there are are so few
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: of those in every cycle, so that certainly makes life
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: more difficult if you find if you fall behind the
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: eight ball a little, you know, early.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: In the cycle, without a doubt, without a doubt, and uh,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Luke is uh yeah, yeah, big big money guy. Let's
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: flip to the other side of the line. As as
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Tyler Bowen trying to get a fifth here and trying
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: to make a couple of flips. Obviously, we got an
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: offer to Landry Breed from a mentor. He is committed
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: NC State Adam Guthrie, who's been on the board since
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Justin Fry was around and uh and then Bowen took
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: over committed to Clemson shortly after that, and Fry ended
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: up getting Max Riley, who was flirting with Clemson. Now
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: he is doubling back on Guthrie, trying to kind of
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: rekindle a relationship, and they've been in contact, but he's
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: recently visited him and as we know, Clemson blood in
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: the water. As you say, this is a one that
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I was really close to when it was all going down,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: and even before he ever got an Ohio State offer.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: This is a player I liked, I think a little
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: more than than Justin Fry from the very beginning. And
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I feel like Tyler Bowen likes him more than Fry
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: liked him, and he's certainly a true tackle body who
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: isn't playing top notch competition at Miami Trace. And it's
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: a little harder to evaluate, but I think he has
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: got some quickness. I think he's got some dog in him.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: He is pretty nimble on the basketball court, similar to
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Sam Greer. It's a really it's a player I like
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: a lot. What are your thoughts.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Adam as well as as a prospect.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I do think he's got a little bit of a
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: of a main streak to him, you know. I do
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: like the basketball body and the basketball feat and yeah,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: the competition is what it is. I think that I
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: don't think that prevents him from ultimately being a great
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: player in college. I just think maybe it delays it
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: a year or two. I think maybe maybe another year
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: in the development curve versus someone like a Sam Greer
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: who's going to come in from home and in the
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: schedule they play. But yeah, I think it makes sense,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: and they have quietly kept on him. I know things
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: are just kind of popping off right now in terms
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: of you know, Bowen being able to go to the
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: school and visit that's only because this is the first
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: opportunity he's had to do that since April or May, so,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: like there's been a several month break where the coaches
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: aren't allowed on the road, so that's why things seem
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: to be picking up in the media. But they've quietly
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: kept at this over the past several months. I think
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Breed is the more likely flip at this point. I'm
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: actually a little surprised it hasn't happened yet, but I
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: do think it's going to happen and it but it
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: feels like Bowen is in a position where he would
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: take two of these guys, like he would take both
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: if they both wanted in.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Now is one next question?
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: It was one gonna you know, if if Breed flips,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: is that going to make it even harder to flip Guthrie.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I would think it would, but maybe not. You can
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: probably try and sell Guthrie on him being more of
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: a tackle and Breed be more of a swing player
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: who maybe ends up a guard who like my comparison
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: for him, gave Van Sickle as a guard right now,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: so that you know you can you can massage that situation,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I think. But they are recruiting as though they will
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: will take two more if they can get the right.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: To okay, And in addition to that, an offer to
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Jared Dowdy. Jared Dowdy a kid out of Georgia who
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: has just really come on. He went from I think
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: two sixty to three hundred pounds true tackle and wow,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: it's just like overnight. He's got Bama, Georgia, Ohio State,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Texas after him and he's living the good life. About
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: to take all these officials which he has scheduled. Sounds
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: like he wants to scheduleshly to Ohio State. Now, this
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: being a kid from Georgia, I watched him meet Kirby
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Smart on a video for the first time. Looked pretty
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: dog une impressed. Looks like it's going to be a
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: tough pull in that regard. Also watch this film. He's legit, legit, Like, wow,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: that is an athlete at three hundred pounds.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: He was talking about late bloomers and he's a bit
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: of a late bloomer and that's I think even you know,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: while I talk about philosophically in terms of guys who
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: who get a lot better and get a lot more
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: physical develop later in their high school careers tend to
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: be higher percentage hits later on. I think that that
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: is even more true on the lines because a lot
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: of these kids are just some of these big time prospects.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: There's so much bigger and more athletic than guys when
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: they're sophomores in high school. But the other the rest
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: of the field will eventually catch up to them. They'll
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: eventually have to go against guys their own size and athleticism,
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: and so we have these linemen who sort of come
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: out of nowhere late in their careers. That's usually a
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: good sign. Yeah, I mean, we just talked about three
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: offensive lineman. I would have him probably third most likely
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: to end up in this class for Ohio State. I
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: think the SEC schools are starting to really take to him,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: and that's always going to be a challenge when that happens,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: but he has certainly he's kind of a Jremier Gibbs
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: of the offensive line, if you will. Where everyone's now
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: talking about him as a senior.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think i'd go with you there, with brid
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Guthrie and Dottie in that order as well. At Corner
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: we saw a couple of offers pop out here, and obviously,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: you know Danny Odum still in the mix, and Tim
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Walton did go see him over the weekend. But Jay
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Timmins out of Pennsylvania, he's a Florida State legacy committed
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: to Florida State. Uh, this is a recent offer, as
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: well as Rashawn Duncan, who's committed to Washington currently and
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: he just got you know, the Bama, Georgia, Oregon, Ohio
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: State treatment as well just swarmed on him. But Timmans, first,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: do you know anything about him? I've not heard of
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: him before until recently here.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: I mean no, I don't have any extra like insight
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: from you know, six months ago where I you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: So this is one I've been playing ketchup on as well. Obviously,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: the way Florida State is playing right now, they haven't
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: see how they do here on on Friday Night against Virginia,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: but they opened the season has probably helped them quite
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: a bit in terms of keeping the vultures away from
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: their class because I can tell you that was another
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: school that coming into the season, everyone's like, man, I
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: fake them out and they get crushed by Alabama. It's
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: going to be it's going to be a feeding frenzy
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: with with all the stuff that's gonna be going on
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: with with you know, people wanting Norvela helping everything else
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: if that happens. So they've been able to kind of
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: push back on that a little bit. And yeah, I
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: think a high stat you can have to play the
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: geography card here, I guess. I mean, that's that's the
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: that's the only thing. But I'm not particularly optimistic about
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: that one. The guy I can and I know he's
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: I know they're still trying. Like I'm not saying they
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: haven't been trying, but I I have consistently pounded the
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: table for the last couple of months that they need
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: to keep it on Danny Odom. That was a very
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: volatile last few weeks of his recruiting process before he
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: committed that he went back and forth between like three
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: different schools in Ohio was one of them. Whenever that happens,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: you want to stay on that because there's there's a
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: reason it was volatile. It's because he wasn't quite sure.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: So you keep on that. Plus, I think he's really good.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: I think physically, his physical tools are almost off the charts.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's exactly what they want in a corner
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: at you know, at six' two and long armed and.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Athletic he can he can do just about anything in the.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Secondary so that's Where i've been. SAYING i would hope
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: that they're the most resources are going and it looks
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: like that's happening right. Now but, yeah they are smartly
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: like throwing some other offers out there and see if
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: they get some guys in on official visits.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Coming up now otom AND i.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: AGREE i think he's an excellent player and that would
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: be just great.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: News but we also At.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: NEBRASKA i want to say that we've talked about this,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: before and this is this is a guy who got
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: the super super treatment From nebraska to get that to
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: get that, commitment which makes it all the more difficult
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: in this. Era AND i do want to talk to
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: you about this era as we can't ignore the elephant
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: in the room with a lot of these guys that
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: they're doubling back. On when we talk about guys Like Adam,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: guthrie Like Luke, wayful Like Danny, odom these were guys
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: that were you, know taking care of very handsomely by
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: the schools they recruited or committed. To, ultimately there's been
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: a narrative since roughly big ten media days That Ohio
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: state is potentially pivoting a little opening up what they're,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: spending what the coaches are being allowed to, offer. Etc
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: it's been floating. Around i've seen it a. Lot there
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: are only three ways these.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Guys are getting.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Paid they're getting paid with revenue, Share they're getting paid
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: with third party nil deals facilitated by programs like The
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Buckeye Sports, group and then they're getting guaranteed nil. Deals
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: and that is the area that a lot of these
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: schools are operating. In to my, Knowledge Ohio state is
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: still not operating in the guaranteed nil, space which if
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: you do, that then it's on you to now funnel
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: that money through THE, csc through the, clearinghouse and it's
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: a bit of a gray area that they don't want
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: to play.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: In that was their.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: STANCE i don't believe it's, Changed So i'm not so
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: SURE i believe that this is the case that there
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: has been a, pivot that there is more money being.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: OFFERED i kind of feel like if it, was we'd
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: have seen some action by, now and we haven't. Yet
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: as this has been going on for about six weeks
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: that this has been coming out so what are your
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: thoughts on? This are you hearing anything on? That it
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: would sure sound good if you could ease my concerns
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: on this and say, YES.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know THAT i can really do. THAT i
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: don't think there's been a drastic change in How Ohio
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: state's operating WITH. NIL i think there are still times,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: where you, know assistant, coaches recruiting, staffers et, cetera are
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: a little frustrated that they can't like fire the money,
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: cannon so to, speak because there's no Doubt Ohio state
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: has incredible. Resources and so we'll see if as we
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: get closer To december they are able to up there,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: analytics what they show these, kids what they're talking about
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: with these, kids the numbers are throwing out. THERE i
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: know they are always very very, conscientious. Concentious there we
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: go of what the players on the team are making
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: versus what recruits are making or what recruits are going
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: to be. Making and you, know if you everyone kind
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: of rolls their eyes at, this but there is something
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: to this as far as you cannot bring in a,
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: freshman you, know wide receiver and then have them make
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: even Not Jeremiah smith money because no one Has Jeremi
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Jeremih smith's probably the second highest paid human being At
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Ohio state right, now Behind Ryan.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Day But.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Carnal tape, Money, like you. Can't you can't bring in
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: a freshman wide receiver and pay them more than you're
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Paying Carneal. Tape so like if, so you can't just
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: reset the market on all twenty five of your. Commitments
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: you have to get in What nil has. Done AND
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: i talked about this before it even went into. Effect
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: it IS i that this is actually people are, like,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: oh it's the schools with all the. Money i'm, like, well,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: yes the schools with all the money are still going
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: to be and you, know when you have the most,
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: resources you are still going to be in a very good.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Place but what's going to happen is that the schools
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: with not as much, money they're going to take big
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: swings at like three to four guys a, cycle and
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: they're going to pay them like a Top Ohio state
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: kid would be, paid And Ohios state that makes that
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: kid maybe their fifteenth eighteenth best. Commitment they're not going
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: to pay top dollar for. That so it's it's leveling
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: the playing field in a very interesting way Where nebraska
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: AND ucla and schools like. That nebraska's had a lot of,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: resource so maybe put, them but like, A ucla can
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: go out there.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: And Micah smith right Pre.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Deshaun foster's, firing was able to go out there and
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: land three or four big commitments because they those three
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: or four guys got a larger piece of a.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Pie, yeah, yeah for, sure one more. GUY i wanted
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: to hit on.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: THAT i just watched this film the other day And
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: i'll play it as you guys are watching.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: This Amari latimer. Is.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Now we thought That Carlos lachlan was going to be
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: satisfied with favor a key in this class with his
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: eyes On David Gabriel george's in twenty twenty, seven and
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: that being like priority number one and all things would
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: be smooth just like. That now he went and Saw
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Amari lattimore when he was In. GEORGIA i don't think
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: he went To georgia specifically to see. HIM i know
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: he did make an offer down there to, alignment but
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: he went and saw. Him he is A wisconsin. Commit
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: this is a big bruising. DUDE i like his running.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: STYLE i think That lachlan really likes his running. Style
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: would you would you like to see him add another
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: running back in this? Class we're talking about a top
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: it's a four, star top four hundred type, kid big body.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Back he's listed at six foot two hundred. HERE i
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: think he's closer to six one two. Twenty is a big,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: kid so interesting, prospect AND i would like to see
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: him add another back here in with.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Favor i'm kind of agnostic about. This oh it's. Not
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: it's kind of sitting on the fence. Here, look if
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: they find a guy they, love they should they should
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: absolutely take. Him you know you want to always have
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: that wiggle room to take someone that you just. Love
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: AND i we talked about, this like when when they
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: brought In Julian say and After nick saynor fivers, like
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: oh is that an? Upset and no one who? Cares
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: you have you have a chance to bring in you
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: know who you feel is maybe one of the top
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: two quarterbacks entire. Country you need to do. That so
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: if they, had if this, kid if they think this
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: is a diamond in the rough and that he can
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: be in an early difference maker in his career To Hive,
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: state then you do. It but if you. DON'T i
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: just the running back room is not a high concern for,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: me AND i could like, coach, Sorry Coach lachlan if
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: you're listening to, this BECAUSE i know every position coach
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: thinks their room is like the number one priority all the.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Time but, like my concerns long term about the running
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: back room are like. Zero, Yeah so Like i'm not
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: reaching for a. Back i'm you, know there's ten stud
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: backs in the portal every. Year look at all the
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: running backs that were in the portals past. Year look
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: at how they're doing, now Like Justice haynes And Ahmad,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: hardy and the country is littered with running backs who
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: transfer this offseason who are like absolute. Stuff you can
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: always get. One look At Ohio state they Got, JUDKINS.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Cj.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Donaldson there's always gonna be back in the. Portal SO
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: i just wouldn't push. IT i JUST i just wouldn't
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: force the issue, unless, again you think you've got something
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: here that's really.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Special all, Right so to your point, here your your philosophical.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Point what do you think About David Gabriel's george and
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: how hard would you push for? HIM i, MEAN i
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: know you think he's a really special, back how special,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: right because now we're talking about how much resources are
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: you mark going to invest on that superstar, back That Savian,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: hyder That David Gabriel.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: GEORGE i was of.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: The opinion that the Money hider was, getting which, was you,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: know subreimined to be somewhere six to eight hundred thousand
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: dollars range was a bit much THAT i wouldn't want
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: to reach for a back that much because at the
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: point you just. Made but, boy WHEN i look At,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: george he looks like SOMETHING a little special.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, like.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: First of, all tremendous, player tremendous. PLAYER i think a
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: guy that they think would also be great in their,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: ROOM a really good, kid has a very interesting background,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: story which we've hit on a little bit in the.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Past but you, KNOW i am with you in the
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: sense THAT i would have a kind of line in
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: the sand at running, back AND i don't know what
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: exactly that number would. BE i would have a bit
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: of a line in the sand where it's, like, look
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: it's not hard to find running, backs and so to
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: have a disproportionate amount of your nil dollars going to
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: the running back position is probably not the best way
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: to build a. Roster you really have to start thinking
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: a lot about this IN nfl, terms like do you
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: want the running back room to have a lot of
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: the money or you want the quarterback room and THE
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: o line and THE d line have.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of the.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Money but so, philosophically, YES i think there's a line
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: in the. Sand but he he's a tremendous. Player and
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: don't listen to me on this like this is just
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: this is a Guy Ohio state is enamored. With so
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: this is they love that's and that's ultimately what. Matters
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: they love this. Kid so WHATEVER i say about, HIM
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: i can talk about him, positively, negatively, whatever it's not
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: going to change how a high state approaches this, one
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: which is that they think he's more special than anything
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: they could have got this year in twenty. Six so
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: that's that's, yeah that's The so that's the thing. Here
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: and SO i think they're gonna they're gonna do a
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: lot to make try and get that one, done but
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: they're gonna have some stiff competition From tennessee and AND
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: i Think georgia especially seems to have his his eye
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: right now as. Well.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah And, Tennessee, uh of, course was one of
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: the final players For hyder and they missed out On.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Hyder they definitely want to land a big, one and
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: we know that they're not not afraid to scratch a ridiculous,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: check so that'll be an interesting one to follow. TONIGHT
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: i am going To hobin to Watch Sam greer as
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: they welcome In Walsh. Jesuit Walsh jesuit has a six
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: foot four dynamite receiver Named Milan paris THAT i saw
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: last year Against. Hobin he's committed To Iowa. State, Man
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: i'm telling you this, KID i got a feeling he
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: might blow up here as we go down the. STRETCH
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: i don't know that he'll wind up At Iowa, state
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: but Obviously hobin has a ton of, Talent so can't
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: wait to talk about that when we when we reconvene
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: on our next call, Session, mark is there anything else
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: you wanted to hit on?
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: TODAY i think we we covered a lot of ground, there. Man,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: yeah let let yeah eager to think you Know i've
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: SEEN i know you've seen these guys, before but you,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Know i'll be eager to get your thoughts On Sam,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: greer WHO i think is a five star. TACKLE i just.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Yep you, KNOW i.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Felt that for a long. Time he was you know when,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: gosh when of my First ohio rankings for the class
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: and all these guys were, SOPHOMORES i, said this is the.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Lineman there's a lot of good ones In. Ohio this
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: is the, one and So i'll be interested to see
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: if he's continuing that. Trajectory but, yeah also see if
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: there's Any they're always gonna be a young kid at.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Home there's gonna be a freshman or sophomore out there running,
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: around and you're, like, oh.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: So i'm really excited to see the Younger feaster. Brother
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: we've talked a lot About Breton, feaster who was playing running.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Back he's now playing. Defense four star.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Kid at one point he was ranked the number two
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: linebacker in the country before he'd even really played.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Linebacker that has since kind of.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Recalibrated but a really really great, ATHLETE Uh state champion
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: wrestler WHO usc And Penn, state he told me currently
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: or the two that really got his. Attention Ohio state not,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: offered not really been in much, contact but it's his younger,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: brother who is also a state. Champers he's, taller he's
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: maybe six' three Goes by squeak and, he's long, he's
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: lean and he looks like he could potentially grow into
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: a pretty. Serious edge these kids are, freak athletes these,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: two BROTHERS and i think it's that one right there
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: that looks like he might be the woe kind. Of
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Kid so i'm really looking forward to checking him, out
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: TONIGHT but i will definitely.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Report back so, All, right mark, appreciate.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: You brother we appreciate you guys for watching us Here
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: At skull Session On. Buckeye huddle be sure to check
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: us out on bucke huddle dot com where you can
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: join check us out on the board where we talk
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: all this kind of stuff all. Day long appreciate, you
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: guys and we'll talk to.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: You soon