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39. Firestarter · The Book-Watchers

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Gay anyway. So what we're talking about today, So today we are going
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to be talking about another Stephen King novel, this one this time we are
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going to be talking about fire Starter. Yay, So fire Starter or carry
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adjacent terry as well. When you think about it, like the premise is
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pretty much the same. It centered around a young a young girl with psycho
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connectic abilities. Except in Firestarter, the young girl in question girl name excuse
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me, let me get her and my notes up. Sorry I should have
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that already. The young girls a girl named Charlene Charlie McGee, so a
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little back. It is centered around this young girl and she does not have
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teleconnectic abilities like Carry does, but she has hirokonnetic abilities, so she is
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a literal fire starter. Now, so the story about the story of fires
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actually beans where Charlie is born. It starts pretty much starts off the story
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Pretti starts off centered around her father, Andrew McGee or Andy, and his
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wife Victoria or Vicky. The thing is is that back in the back in
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the day when both Charlie, both Andy and Victoria were students, were both
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college students you know, bro college student shit, they both decide to participate
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in a experiment dealing with a specific kind of hallucinogetic drug similar to LSD called
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LOTS six. Now. The drug gave Andy and his future wife Vicky minor
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psycho psychic abilities. With Vicky she gets she gets minor telekinetic abilities, and
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with him he gets this form of telepathic. This form of telepathy allows him
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to control other people's minds. More specifically, he's able to like push suggestions
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into other people's minds. And after college and as he's like as he learns
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more about his abilities, he actually uses it to help him in his psychologist
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career because he is a certified psychologist and what he tends to do is use
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his push ability to help implant suggestions and his patients to help them deal and
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cope with their own stress and mental illnesses. But it comes with its own
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drawbacks, because if he pushes too hard, it leaves him with crippling migraine,
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headaches and even even like minor brain hemorrhages and similar things. With his
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wife, she can move objects with her mind, but you know, anytime
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she moves anything too big, she like deals with the same thing splitting headaches,
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and she feels like she can't move for the rest of the day.
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But after they get married and they have their daughter, Charlie, they realized
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very early on that Charlie has inherited their abilities. In fact, she's developed
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her own ability and it is very powerful power kinnetic abilities. In fact,
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when Charlie was just a little, just a baby, like a few months
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old, I guess, like as her hair was growing out, it got
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into her face and she got a little upset and she accidentally set her own
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hair on fire. And from that point on until like the present day,
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believe she was like eight or nine in the events of this In the events
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of the book, Charlie like we'll have these little accidents where she'll accidentally just
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set things on fire. If she has a tantrum, she can like set
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like a whole room on fire. If she like gets fussy or she focuses,
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you know, she focuses too much on one thing, she will cause
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things to just spontaneously combust. The thing is is that Charlie, Charlie and
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her family they've had for a very long time. They've had to basically go
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on the run and hide from the government agency that experimented on her parents.
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This agency is called the Shop. Now the Shop they found out that Andy
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and Victoria had a child, and that child has basically as a result,
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is she's what they were looking for. The reason why they were experiments on
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these kids so that way they can develop somebody with powerful psycho connectibilities. And
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since Charlie is exhibiting those abilities in a very you know, major way,
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they want her for their own experiments and to develop her into Well doesn't specifically
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say in the book why they want her, but considering it's the government weapon
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weapon like they want a weaponizer, so yeah, it goes without saying.
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So let me see here. So Charlie and Andy they end up going on
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a run. Because the shop actually catches up with them, they send this
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assassin after them. This assassin is a he just for some pretext, he
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is a Cherokee and Vietnam War veteran. He's a Cherokee Native American and a
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Vietnam War veteran. His name is John Rainburn. They sent Rainbird to track
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down Charlie and bring her back to the shop for testing, and also Rainburn
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has been given orders to kill her parents because they are not necessary. But
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when the shop actually catches up with them, with all three of them,
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they they hadn't sent Rainburg just yet. They managed to track her down to
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her home in Ohio. Her they're suburban home in Ohio, but when they
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tried to take Charlie, it kind of went sideways and they ended up killing
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her mother. And they do manage to take Charlie while Andy was at work.
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Andy being having his own psychic abilities, he senses that she's in danger
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and rushes home to figure out what's going on. That's where he finds his
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murdered wife and his daughter and realizes his daughter's kidnaps. He then uses his
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abilities to track her down and he eventually catches up to them on a rest
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stop, and there he uses his push ability to incapacity the shop agents.
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He actually the way he does it, he actually blinds one of them and
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he leaves the other one comatose. So at this point the two of them
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flee and then again in the life of running and hiding and just basically using
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fake names and identities, they moved several times to avoid discovery, but eventually
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the shop catches up with them, and this is where Rainburn comes in.
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Rainbird comes in and let me see here. So the chase does take them
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through many plays, including Albany, New York, and at one point h
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Andy manages to get them plane tickets to fly out to fly out of New
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York to Vermont where he has a fan where he has a cabin that once
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belonged to his grandfather, and several times they're nearly caught by the assassin while
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they're hiding out at that farm. Eventually the shop does catch up with him,
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and I'm sorry, I'm like losing my train of thought here. Cool.
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Sorry. When you play when you've been doing nothing all day, like
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literally nothing, just playing, just mindlessly playing video games, you kind of
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like kind of like, it's not good. It's not good for your brain
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because you're just like what am I doing? Brain fart? Brain fart?
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Nuhu. So Anyway, when the shop catches up to them and his family,
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Andy's family farm, the ensuing chaos triggers Charlie and she unleashes her pyre
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connectic abilities and she ends up like burning half of the farm down. Unfortunately,
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both her and her father are taken in by the shop and they are
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separated at the shop headquarters in DC And basically like the shop headquarters is disguised
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as like a I believe it's like disguised as a like psychiatric hospital, so
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like rehabilitation place. They end up there they are and in prison there for
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about six months, just a little like kind of like just take a step
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a pause here to talk about Rainbird. Rainbird is pretty unhinged. He even
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though he was the one who successfully tracked them down and brought them in,
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he has this weird obsession with Charlie and he wants, like he really he
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wants to be friend, but he ultimately wants to kill her because he sees
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her is like the ultimate I guess, like the ultimate praise since she has
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her firepower and everything. And I don't know, I think this is a
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personally since this book was written and published in nineteen eighty. I think it's
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just just like ignorance on Stephen King's part, not really understanding like culture of
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Native American culture and things like that, because kind of the way Rainbird has
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played off is is like this paranoid It's a phrenic Native American dude who's obsessed
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with the hunt and things like that. And yeah, I didn't really like
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it honestly, Like it was like Rainbird's obsession was also kind of like borderline
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pedophilia, but there was nothing things sexual about it. So that's where it's
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just what his character, Like, what's why is he so obsessed with with
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Charlie. She's yeah, like I get she's very powerful, but like,
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what is his obsession with wanting to kill her? Is it just like something
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to do with like the fact that she he thinks of her as like the
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ultimate enemy and just wants to kill her, you know, prove that he's
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stronger in some way. I don't get it, but will While both of
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them are imprisoned in the same headquarters, they are separated for about six months.
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During that time, they keep Andy under like heavy sedation to keep him
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from using his powers, and because of the because of the sedatives that they're
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using on him, he does also become pretty addicted to it and basically loses
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his spirit to fight, and the Shop eventually deems him useless, like of
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no value. However, Charlie, at first she refuses to define. She
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refuses to cooperate with Shop and doesn't demonstrate her power for them. But you
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see here, so while she's like resisting them and doesn't want to like use
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her like full power, because at one point she they do convince her like
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if she doesn't use her powers, like if she doesn't comply with their tests,
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they'll just they'll start hurting, they'll hurt her dad, and they'll kill
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him. So she starts using her power, but she refuses to like let
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it out fully because for one thing, for her, it's kind of like,
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uh, you know, it's kind of like bladder control. Really,
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this is the best way to describe it. But since she's a little girl,
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she like, you know, when you're a little kid, you know,
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accidents happen. You don't you don't really have full control over your you
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know, over your bladder, and sometimes you could either just have like small
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leaks or you know, full on like piss yourself or like wet the bed.
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And in Charlie's case, like with since she's still learning to control her
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firepower, anytime she uses it too much, it'll just eventually just come pouring
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out of her and she'll just burn everything around her to ground. So she
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herself doesn't want to use that all that power out all at once, but
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while they're testing her, while they're testing her, and since the shop has
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like pretty much forgotten about Charlie, Charlie, I'm sorry, pretty much forgot
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about Andy. Andy manages to like put pull himself out of his addiction,
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and he uses his own he uses his own ability to push himself into overcoming
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his addiction and to like basically start like weaning himself off of it, off
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of the drugs by secretly like not taking the food or medicine that has the
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sedative in it, and he eventually manages to break out. Rainbird All,
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on the other hand, also is there, and he's he pretends to be
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like it. He's like he disguises himself as a chanitor and befriends Charlie and
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try and is gaining her trust. Andy, he manages to use his push
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ability on his psychiatrist to gain crucial to gain some really crucial information. And
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at one point Andy manages to like he manages to overpush his psychiatrist, which
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causes him to un alive himself. So his psychiatrist because like when Andy uses
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his abilities too much on a person to control them, it causes like I
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guess you could say, like a mental feedback, and this causes them to
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like become people to become unhinged, begin to act out in strange ways and
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even hurt themselves. And that's what happened with his psychiatrist, Like he had
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some pretty uh kinky things that he had repressed and Andy's push and with Andy
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using his abilities on him, it causes those repressed kinks quote quote unquote kinks
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to like really comes to the surface, hesp hurting himself to the point of
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death. And Jesus, yeah, yeah, Andy is able to because of
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this. It causes a lot of stir at the at the shop, and
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and he's able to make meet and push the director of the facility and uses
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him the facility as well as finally communicate with Charlie. Rainbird unfortunately discovers Andy's
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plan and decides to use it to his advantage. So even though Andy's plants
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succeed and he and Charlie are reunited and are about to escape, Rainbird is
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ready for them and he's planning to kill them both during Thanks to the distraction
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provided by the director, who's losing his mind from the side from a side
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effect of being pushed, Andy gets attacked by Rainbird, but he manages to
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use his ability on Rainbird one last time, forcing Rainbird to leap to jump
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from the upper level of the barn that they were hiding in, and he
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ends up breaking his own leg, but Rainbird ends up shooting Andy in the
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neck and basically killing him. And then when he tries to kill Charlie,
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Charlie, you know, in a fit of rage, she uses her power.
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She basically unleashes her powerful force and she stops her firepower stops the bullet
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mid air and it sets both Rainbert and Cap on fire. Her dad because
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he used his ability too much, he ends up having a stroke and gets
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it has an aneurysm, which he has an aneurysm which causes a stroke and
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he does end up dying. After he dies, Charlie she goes on a
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rampage. She burns down the entire facility, killing like dozens of employees and
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like basically just recks everything, you know, and nothing they can they do
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can stop her because there is this is a military facility as well, So
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even though the military is there and they try to like stop her, she
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just ends up blowing them up. And she does end up escaping, leaving
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most people, like almost everybody dead. So but of course, in the
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very government fashion, the whole event is covered up by the is covered up
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and released to the media as like a terrorist fire bombing the shop. It
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quickly reforms on her new leadership and they begin to hunt Charlie again. She
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returned to She ends up returning to her family farm, and she eventually comes
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up with a plan to basically expose herself so that way the government can no
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longer cover it up. So she ends up traveling to New York City and
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she goes to Rolling Stone Magazine, the Rolling Stone Magazine of all places,
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and she gives them a demonstration of her power. But at that point that's
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where the book ends, so it's pretty open ended, So there's no like,
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It's it's pure Stephen King fashion. A lot of his books end and
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like with like very like open ended ending with no real with no real resolution,
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like what happens to Charlie? What is the shop eventually cap catch up
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with her? Does is the world now aware of what the US government has
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done, you know, resulting and somebody a very extraordinary person like Charlie existing,
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you know, and does this actually expose their other wrongdoing like the experiments
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at that college that resulted in her parents getting powers? You know? So
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that really is up. It leaves pretty much leaves it up to whoever decides
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to. I guess like Stephen King does this deliberately because since a lot of
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his books get published and like it's produced into a movie, I guess he
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leaves it that way so that way the producers can just come up with their
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own ending, which they typically do. Yeah. Yeah, So that is
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pretty much it for the book. It's a very short book, pretty much
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carry It's only about four hundred and twenty six pages long. And I personally
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liked this one better than Carrie. M Like Carrie, go listen to me,
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don't get wrong. Carrie is always going to be a classic, and
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it's always gonna be iconic, but I like this one better because, like,
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I feel like we actually know how she got her powers. Like,
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okay, so it all started when the government started fooling around with LSD and
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like with an LSD variant which gave her parents psychokinetic abilities, which she ends
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up inheriting. But the thing is, like, unlike her parents who are
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very limited because of their own mature physio physiology, she herself is not held
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back by those limitations, which is why she's very powerful. But you know,
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it's very synonymous with Carrie because, like, like Carrie, towards the
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end of the book, she ends up having like she ends up going on
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a rampage, killing a bunch of people with their powers and all that shit.
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So like, But unlike Harry, which has been adapted into some pretty
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decent movies, fire Starters movie adaptations were not all that great. Yeah,
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like the original Firestarter adaptation. Let me see here, this is actually the
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very first movie. A movie adaptation of Firestarter was produced in nineteen eighty four,
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so about four years after the book was published, And actually this was
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I believe her breakout role. Drew Barry. Yeah, Drew Barrymore played Charlie
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and David Keith played Andy McGee. And now you have this old you have
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this pull ensemble of eighties actors and actresses. But I never actually got to
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watch this version, this original version, just because it's not currently on any
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streaming services, at least none that I can find. Well, I mean,
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I don't know. I bet you if I check right now, it'll
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probably be somewhere well that let me lark, Yeah, fire Starter like eighty
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four. No, it's not anywhere. It's not on Sday streaming services currently,
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right, So I can't really, I really can't give my opinion on
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that movie because since I haven't been able to watch it, Like I'm actually
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planning on just going to use DVD store and just pick up a cheap copy
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of it and watch it later. But I have been able to watch The
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most recent adaptation of fire Starter came out last year in twenty twenty two,
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and it does have an all decent, all star cast. We have Ryan
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Kiera Armstrong as our leading lady Charlie, and then of course we have yeah
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Daddy that we have Daddy zac Efron playing actually playing a daddy. Yeah,
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that came out weird. I'm never doing that again anyway. So yeah,
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so Zach, I think this is I think this is actually the first zac
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Efron's first role playing a mature father figure, because I mean he's had plenty
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of other roles where he's played like an older brother type character. Yeah,
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he did Blage, Disaster Artists, The Great Showman. Uh, do you
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think of anything else? Yeah, he did. That was really you know.
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Of course, there's also he played he played also Ted Bundy and the
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extremely wicked chockol ly evil and vile. I didn't know that, but yeah,
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yeah, it's very of course he played. But yeah, he played
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other roles and ship he played. Yeah, he played a lot of different
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roles. So this role was definitely a very it's it's very different from the
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usual roles he plays because he's always playing that like playboy, bachelor, like
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ladies man, like lady killer kind of guy. But this one is like,
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oh the aside, there was that other there was this other movie where
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he played like an older brother, like a he played as an older brother
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and his little brother died and shit, and yeah it was very sad.
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Yeah it was very sad. But like this is I think like this one
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was definitely, like, you know, it was very different from him,
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and I honestly liked it. Other than that it wasn't very faithful to the
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book. It was definitely you know, definitely changed some things, like it
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started out with the family on the run and then Rainbow Rainbow tracks them down,
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kills the wife, and chases them across across the country. Personally,
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I don't think they we actually got that scene where we see her, where
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we see Charlie just really go all out. Like in the book. There
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was that scene where they escaped from the shop's headquarters, and this part was
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like the part that got me like, oh this this is like so dumb.
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Was when they had captured both Charlie and Andy and the shop was trying
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to force Charlie to like you know, surrender to them and then Andy in
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order to like keep them from getting their hands on Charlie. He uses his
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power on Charlie and compels her and basically just go all out and blow everything
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up. And I'm just like, oh no, no, no, no,
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no no. They took away from it, took away like see he
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deaf in the book, he made that that sacrifice he did sacrifice himself for
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his daughter, and he did use his power to protect her, but he
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ends up dying not because he compels her to kill him, but because you
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know, he overused his powers, which I thought was a lot more heart
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like heartbreaking because he he ends up his power ends up killing him because of
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this, you know, because he's trying to protect him protect his daughter.
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Right. Yeah, So I personally didn't like that. And like she does
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end up going on a rampage and killing her, like killing everything, but
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like it just seemed like it was very downplayed and didn't really it didn't really
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go there. Like it like it doesn't carry, you know, because like
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I said, this book is very this plot of this book is very similar
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to Carry, and you know, with You had the you know, the
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final rampage as I call it, and fire Starter had the same thing,
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but they kind of really I feel like they really downplayed it in this movie.
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I don't know, I think I should watch it again because when I
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watch it the first time, I'm not gonna lie. I kind of just
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I lost interest in it like halfway through the movie, so I didn't really
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pay attention to it. Well, it didn't get good very good reviews and
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no one seems like it, so yeah, so sorry. I mean zach
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Efron, He's always a good actor. He's a good actor. I love
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seeing him in movies. This just wasn't his best movie. And I did
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not really hate it when like a good book is adapted into a shitty movie
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because like it really like reflects badly on the book two, because it's like
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what was the was the book so bad they couldn't come up with a good
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plot, you know, like it didn't have a good plot for a movie.
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But then again, you have to remember, not every book is going
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to be adapt movie adaptable, true, true, because I everything translates watching
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the screen. Yeah, exactly, you know, unless of course you are
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like, you know, unless of course you do your research and do you
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know how to like really like translate these books, like personally, like if
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we go take a step back and talk about Dune for a second, you
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know that book was definitely not an easy book to translate into a movie,
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but Villenuive did an excellent job. Yeah, And I honestly can't agree.
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And I honestly can't wait for part two to come out. It's coming out
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this year, right in November. Yesterday, so happy. I'm I'm here
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for that, I'm living for that. But yeah, other than that,
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this is firestarter by Stephen King. You know, definitely, I would definitely
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say read the book. You'll I feel like a lot of people will enjoy
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it more, enjoy the book more. But of course, if you've read
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Carrie first and then read and then read this, so as most I'm pretty
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sure most Stephen King fans have, you'll kind of you'll see as I've seen
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that it's very it's very similar to Carry, Well is it? Well,
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don't both of them technically? I know Carrie has the shining for sure,
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but but doesn't Charlie. Supposedly rumor not umor theory has it that Harry has
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the shine? Yeah, Carry has to shine. Yeah, it's a big
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goal. That's an ongoing theory. Well, but isn't Charlie part of that
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theory as well as that she also has the shine? So that is a
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that's a very like gray area because since Charlie's power, Like, the thing
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about the shine is that there's no real origin for it. It's just something
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that you were born with. True, So like you know, no one
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really knows where David gets David got his shine from, or his need or
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his knees got it from. I mean they all they all think that the
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common denominator is their dad, but their dad never exhibited those powers before.
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No. With the thing with Charlie, is that her powers or the result
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of like, you know, scientific experimentation. So I can't really say it
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does factor into that. I mean maybe it could actually be the shine and
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that that drug just merely like enhanced those powers. I'd look back at that
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theory. So now for sure it was Carrie as well as obviously the shining,
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the kid and the shining and then oh god, what's that character's name
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from the Green Mile? Yeah, the one who can heal? Yeah,
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I supposedly he has the shrine as well. Yeah, there's a whole like,
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yeah, there's a lot of theories surrounding all that. I'm pretty sure
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with with five with Charlie, I just don't think it's it's the actual shine.
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If it is, then okay, But I had to look back at
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the theory again. Yeah, I gotta like go through Kerry again and just
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do more research. But I'm pretty sure a lot of people theorize that her
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dad is actually the the man in Black. You're kidding? That makes sense.
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Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, because like it like her mother,
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while she doesn't openly admit it, she was like it wasn't like fully
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touched on, but she basically painted that she was a victim of marital heart
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our word. Yeah, so like it's possible like her husband was in fact
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the man in black and he was just using her for his own purposes and
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shit. But yeah, and Carrie is the result, which is why she
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has such powerful telekinetic and telepathic abilities. Yeah, that's true. Would explain
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a lot, would explained why she why her mother was so freaking religious,
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because I'm sure she wasn't like that before. Oh yeah, well I mean,
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well I'm sure she was probably that before. But there, I mean,
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I've always wondered why was she so extreme, Like because that extremism doesn't
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come out, does it really pop up over night? You're someone puts you
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that way or something drove you to that be that extreme. Yeah, she
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that's interesting. Yeah, it could definitely like that extreme that such extremism when
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it comes to like her religion is definitely I could definitely see that as something
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like as some form of like trauma response yeah, because like once you know,
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when you know you experienced like extreme trauma, it really fucks you up
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in the head. And when that happens, it does like negatively affect your
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your behavior, your beliefs, and things like that, Like you know,
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something like that's why let's let's look at you know, not to dish our
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service member. You know, are men and women who serve in the military.
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But it's a very like common fact. It's a very like easy subject
36:53
to touch on because like you see that a lot in servicemen and women,
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especially when they have been deployed to like you know, overseas and they've seen
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combat. So like when they're out there, they're in the ship, you
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know, they see a lot of really bad things. You know, they
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see they see people dying in the streets. You know, they themselves may
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or may not have to take a life and or they themselves may have survived
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very like you know, life threatening situations. And when you experience that that
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like such extreme levels of trauma, it does severely affect your mentality in your
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behavior. That's why, like you know, there are several people I know
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personally who tend to who have very like negative behavior because of their experiences and
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their own experiences out there. No again. Yeah, I'm not taking a
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ship. I'm not talking shit about uh. Men are our brothers and sisters
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in the military, all right, I love you guys to death. All
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right, It's just that this is just a harsh reality that a lot of
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you have to face that we that we do see every day. Period.
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So but yeah, other than that, that was fire starter. Now I
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know Tiff has been is going to be joining us, is she's going?
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They are going to be joining us next In our next episode, we're gonna
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be taking a step back from Stephen King just for a short period of time
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because they Tiff has been wanting to join us and talk about another books series.
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So we're gonna be diving into the world of d Indi inspired stories,
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mainly the Legend of Drifts. Yeah, all right, So next week Tiff
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will be here with us. What in whether in person or in spirit,
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I don't care. Well, you know, I got a little bit of
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you know, witchcraft running my my veins. I'll figure out a way to
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invoke her or something. She'll be here. They'll be here, God,
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they'll be here. Either way, They'll be here here, and we will
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be talking about book one in the Legend of Drists Homeland yep So until then,
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catch all, next time, all right, peace out.