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Shohei Ohtani Enduring Worst Career Slump · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: I'm back.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening, everybody. Welcome to another edition of the Sports Exchange.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Scott Morgan of Motor City Mad Mouth.
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  Speaker 2: I have a great crew on tack today. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of good topics ahead of us. Great topics. And the
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  Speaker 2: crew I have, we've got Cliff Neal. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: have him this week. He's going to travel with his
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  Speaker 2: students next week, but we'll bring him back whenever he
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  Speaker 2: wants to. Hope you have a good time with your
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  Speaker 2: students next week, Cliff. Great stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Scott.
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  Speaker 2: I just hope you're showing them all this crazy stuff
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  Speaker 2: that we've got going on here. That's all.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And we've got Jason Prock, another up-and-comer who's becoming more,
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  Speaker 2: and he's definitely a comer. And he's doing an excellent job.
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  Speaker 2: He improves with every show. Glad to have you back, Jason.
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  Speaker 4: Glad to be here, Scott. Looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: And here we have John Hopkins. No relation to the
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  Speaker 2: medical clinic, but I'll tell you, he's a calming influence.
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  Speaker 2: It saved me a heart attack, so there's a medical
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  Speaker 2: angle to it. And we have another unbelievable guy, Lucas Nelson.
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  Speaker 2: He's my eye to Dave Doran, so let him know
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  Speaker 2: every time he steps out of line, he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be the prediction meter as to when this guy will
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  Speaker 2: be dropped his bum anyways. I imagine it's getting a
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  Speaker 2: little hotter for him up there now, isn't it, though, Lucas?
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  Speaker 5: Just a little bit, yes. Things are getting a little
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  Speaker 5: bit testy in Raleigh for him. But we'll see. We'll
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  Speaker 5: see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: Pleasure to be here, man.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you for inviting me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. The more losses, the easier it is for
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  Speaker 2: me to say TKO second round. All right, Candy. It's
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  Speaker 2: back for another round of this insanity. With that said,
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  Speaker 2: let the insanity begin. All right, well, there was a
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  Speaker 2: report that went out that Mike Brown drove out to
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson's house for dinner to build a relationship with him.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty good thing to do, isn't it? Especially when you're
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  Speaker 2: looking to try to win a championship, right, Cliff?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you're a new coach, you want
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  Speaker 3: to make sure that your top star is on the
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  Speaker 3: same page. You know, that's brilliant advice. Brilliant strategy there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Mike Brown already had a good record before this,
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  Speaker 3: and that's why they hired him. And it's like if
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  Speaker 3: you're a superstar and you are on the same page,
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  Speaker 3: that has so much credibility to the rest of the team.
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  Speaker 3: We want to win a championship. We're going to do
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  Speaker 3: it with you, but with you leading. And that's a
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  Speaker 3: huge vote of confidence, you know, because you need that bond.
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  Speaker 3: You need that bond where your top star and your
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  Speaker 3: coach are simpatico, almost of the same mind, because that's
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  Speaker 3: what's really going to help guide you where you want
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  Speaker 3: to get.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jason.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I agree, Cliff.
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  Speaker 6: Especially when it comes to a superstar caliber of Jalen Brunson.
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  Speaker 6: You got him with Mike Brown, who's coached You know,
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  Speaker 6: we've got the Cavaliers, the Lakers. You know, he's been
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  Speaker 6: around season veteran coach. And he was the guy that
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  Speaker 6: brought New York over the top. And we see this
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  Speaker 6: even here in Detroit. We had Rick Carlisle and, you know,
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  Speaker 6: didn't kind of work out.
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  Speaker 4: They had Larry Brown. They pushed him over the top.
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  Speaker 6: And that's what it kind of seemed like with Mike
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  Speaker 6: Brown here with New York.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah. And the relationship, I like what he did.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you get on good feet with
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  Speaker 6: your point guard and, you know, you go from there
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  Speaker 6: for years to come. You know, I know we've talked
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  Speaker 6: about this before with Chuck Daly and Dennis Rodman on
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  Speaker 6: our other shows. So I like what they like. I
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  Speaker 6: like what Mike Brown did. It was definitely a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Tom.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, having that clubhouse leader, you know, having the coach
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  Speaker 7: reach out to the clubhouse leader, you know, get so
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  Speaker 7: many things done, get so much reinforced. You know, you
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  Speaker 7: look at a good team, and I don't care what
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  Speaker 7: sport it is, but if you've got the best player
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  Speaker 7: and the manager that are able to talk to each other,
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  Speaker 7: be able to explain things, and, you know, have that
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  Speaker 7: clubhouse leader, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Enforce the team.
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  Speaker 7: Team rules, so to speak, or the ethos, that is
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  Speaker 7: an invaluable thing. And I don't care what sport, if
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  Speaker 7: you've got that, you're going to be a success.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Fernando. Thanks for being in the chat room tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Very much appreciate it. Candy says you're doing dynamite on
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  Speaker 2: fire up. So I appreciate your loyalty to the company. Dakota. Hello, guys. Hello, Dakota.
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  Speaker 2: Great to have you in the chat room as well. Okay, Luke,
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  Speaker 2: just proceed. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's, coach Brown, you need to be able
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  Speaker 5: to have a good relationship with your star player. I mean, that,
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  Speaker 5: that's a huge, um, uh, start or, I mean, you
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  Speaker 5: got to continue that relationship. You want a, uh, NBA title,
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  Speaker 5: but you got to keep those, you got to keep
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  Speaker 5: it running and you got to keep that engine going.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the best way to do it is to
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  Speaker 5: make those relations and, Yeah, more power to him. He
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  Speaker 5: needs to continue that. And I know Brunson is feeling
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  Speaker 5: the same way. It's like, yep, let's do this.
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  Speaker 2: Let's continue.
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  Speaker 5: I would love to share the conversation that happened in
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  Speaker 5: that meeting. That would be awesome. But, hey, that's for
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  Speaker 5: them to share and that's for them to have. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's great.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Candy.
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  Speaker 8: Mike Brown knew that former coach Tom Tibble, Thibodeau had
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  Speaker 8: a great relationship with a lot of his players. And
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  Speaker 8: so what did he do when he had to come in?
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  Speaker 8: He had to break, build credibility. He had to build,
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  Speaker 8: he had to earn the locker room buy-in and how,
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  Speaker 8: how better than to do it with one of the
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  Speaker 8: leaders that leads that team. So yes, getting to know
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  Speaker 8: him and getting to know him on a personal level,
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  Speaker 8: not on the basketball level, because that's going to come,
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  Speaker 8: but you need to establish a personal relationship with, to
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  Speaker 8: show that you really care, to get buy-in from him
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  Speaker 8: so he can help with the rest of the team buy-in.
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  Speaker 8: I almost will reference it to like Pat Murphy because
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  Speaker 8: Pat Murphy is one of those that all of the
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  Speaker 8: team love to play for him. And it's showing with success.
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  Speaker 8: So kudos to Mike Brown. I think that was a
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  Speaker 8: brilliant move on his part.
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  Speaker 2: Life is all about relationships. Scott? Yeah, life is all
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  Speaker 2: about relationships. It's really what it is. I've relied on
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  Speaker 2: a lot of relationships to begin this platform here. And
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing. Mike Brown faced a rally
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  Speaker 2: when he was with the Lakers. I thought he did
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  Speaker 2: a good job. He even won with the Sacramento Kings.
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  Speaker 2: My God, he could win there. He could win anywhere,
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  Speaker 2: this guy. And now he's winning in New York. So
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  Speaker 2: I think he's going to be... involved he's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: tied to red holtzman for a long long time because
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  Speaker 2: the last guy that won a championship cliff if i remember.
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  Speaker 3: Right yeah yeah oh you're going way back yeah red
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  Speaker 3: holtzman so yeah yeah well.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing i mean he's a championship coach is
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  Speaker 2: what he is and now you got him there as
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  Speaker 2: well so that's surreal i mean and if you could
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  Speaker 2: go out there build a relationship with your best player
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  Speaker 2: gosh more power to you all right let's continue on
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  Speaker 2: to tennis Roger Federer has played 1,526 matches and never
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  Speaker 2: retired in a match. Cliff, some thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: That is astounding. We already knew he was one of
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  Speaker 3: the greatest tennis players of all time, but to never retire,
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  Speaker 3: it's just, yeah, he lost games, but He never stopped.
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  Speaker 3: He never quit. I guess he was never injured badly
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  Speaker 3: enough that he had to retire. If he was, then
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  Speaker 3: he fought through it. That's just a testimonial to how
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  Speaker 3: good he was and how dedicated he was to that sport,
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  Speaker 3: to finishing each game, win or lose. That just makes
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  Speaker 3: his case even better. better of how good he was
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  Speaker 3: and what, what he really meant to the, to the,
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  Speaker 3: to the sport, especially when he's coming in later after
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  Speaker 3: he was like leading that sport after an era of
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  Speaker 3: like almost like in a golden era of, you know,
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  Speaker 3: some all-time greats. And he really held the flag up of,
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  Speaker 3: of that, of that era of tennis and, And this hearing,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and when you look back upon that, that's just,
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  Speaker 3: that just seems superhuman.
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  Speaker 2: And go ahead, Jason. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Roger Federer. You don't get any better than that.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you got your Andre Agassiz, your Boris Becker's,
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  Speaker 6: your Johnny Max, and then you got Roger Federer. He's,
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  Speaker 6: he's gotta be one of my top five.
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  Speaker 4: As far as this board is concerned, uh, favorites.
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  Speaker 6: And, uh, he's just, he just kept himself in great
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  Speaker 6: shape to keep going that far. It's almost kind of
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  Speaker 6: like a Cal Ripken thing. Kind of, but not... Kind of,
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  Speaker 6: sort of. He just has longevity. He never got hurt.
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  Speaker 6: That's why he was able to accomplish so much. I
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  Speaker 6: think he's got some Wimbledon championships in there.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely a great tennis player. You can't say... Can't say
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  Speaker 4: enough about the guy. He's definitely one of the greats.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Johnny.
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  Speaker 7: Just the sustainment that he was able to do, the consistency,
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  Speaker 7: the sustainment. You know, you'll see an athlete that can
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  Speaker 7: catch lightning in a bottle and, you know, do incredible
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  Speaker 7: things for a while, but it's got a shelf life.
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  Speaker 7: And that he was able to, you know, we're not
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  Speaker 7: just talking one season that he was.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, great. You know, we're talking.
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  Speaker 7: Lots of seasons, uh, you know, tournaments, you know, what
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  Speaker 7: has it been, uh, 16 years now, longer than that. Uh,
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  Speaker 7: that is a lot, a long time. I mean, you
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  Speaker 7: look at an athlete and depending on the sport, how
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  Speaker 7: long are.
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  Speaker 1: They able to sustain greatness? Uh, 10 years, 15, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: when you get somebody that's sustained it as long as
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  Speaker 1: he has, and it's consistently that says a lot.
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  Speaker 5: It shows how much he, his dedication, how much his
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  Speaker 5: dedication is and what his dedication is and how much
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  Speaker 5: he loves the sport. He, I mean, he just stays
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  Speaker 5: in there for that long. He, yeah, there's, there's, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of love that he has for the sport and
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  Speaker 5: continues it. He's, I mean, through all those injuries and,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, all the setbacks, he's still there. He's still
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  Speaker 5: going through it. He's making it happen. Like, there's, he
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  Speaker 5: just loves his rivalry with, they had with, oh gosh, Roddick,
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  Speaker 5: not Roddick, golly. Nadal.
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  Speaker 3: Nadal.
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  Speaker 5: Rafael Nadal. Nadal, there we go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks. So someone.
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  Speaker 5: Just as great as him, he just has so much
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  Speaker 5: love for the game.
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  Speaker 8: 24 years, 1,526 matches, never withdrew in the middle of
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  Speaker 8: a match. He played through back spasms. He played through
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  Speaker 8: a stomach bug. He never quits. Not only does it
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  Speaker 8: show a love for the game, but it shows a
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  Speaker 8: level of fitness that he had and how well he
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  Speaker 8: took care of his body to be able to do
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  Speaker 8: something like that. Now, he did withdraw from a couple
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  Speaker 8: of matches before the match even started, such as in 2014,
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  Speaker 8: he did due to a back injury, but never during
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  Speaker 8: the middle of a match. 24 years of never retiring
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  Speaker 8: early due to... injury or an ailment. Unbelievable. One of
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  Speaker 8: the greatest, one of the ones that just moved at ease.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, he just had a flow about him. Awesome
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  Speaker 8: to watch. I don't know that we're going to see
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  Speaker 8: someone like that ever again.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's Iron Man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Roger Federer is a player you always
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  Speaker 2: like to watch. Doesn't make excuses. If there's ever a
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  Speaker 2: guy who low management doesn't apply to, it is Roger Federer.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to our feature topic of the night.
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  Speaker 2: Shohei Ohtani enduring his worst career slump. When you think
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  Speaker 2: about it, about a year ago, this guy went out
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  Speaker 2: there and tossed six shutout innings in his final start
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  Speaker 2: for 2025. A year later, he's in the NLCS. And
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  Speaker 2: you know what? Here are his numbers, okay? The worst
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  Speaker 2: stuff of his career. 14 for 93, 36 strikeouts, 1 RBI,
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  Speaker 2: 151 average, 455 OPS. That's not Shohei Otani like Cliff.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he does, he has a sore left knee.
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  Speaker 3: He's got inflamed right biceps. So it's not like he's
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  Speaker 3: fully healthy. I don't want to give excuses for the guy, but.
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  Speaker 3: He is injured. You try playing with that plus everything
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  Speaker 3: you're always doing. Even the greatest athletes, all of us,
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  Speaker 3: he's still going out there. He's still doing it. He's
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  Speaker 3: still trying to do it. He could have said, no,
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  Speaker 3: I can't. He's giving it a shot. He's giving everything
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  Speaker 3: he has. Next year, when he's healthy, you'll start knocking
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  Speaker 3: the cover off the ball and striking everybody out. I mean, he's,
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  Speaker 3: he's Shohei Itani. He's like a real life, Steve Nebraska. But,
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  Speaker 3: and he's someone we've never seen since like Babe Ruth
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  Speaker 3: with the pitching and the, and the hitting and the
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  Speaker 3: way he's so good at it, but he's still human.
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  Speaker 3: He's a human being. We get hurt, you know?
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  Speaker 8: And yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it's coming at a bad time. It's, it's, it's
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  Speaker 3: in the playoffs and, I'm sure he didn't want to
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  Speaker 3: get hurt this time, but it happens. So it's like
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to criticize the guy because he's done
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  Speaker 3: so well. I mean, everybody gets hurt, and it's just
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  Speaker 3: his time. It's the other guys on the team. It's
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  Speaker 3: the Dodgers. They have all those guys on the team.
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  Speaker 3: If they still lose with the rest of that team,
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  Speaker 3: that's their fault because he's having some bad times because
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  Speaker 3: he's injured. They should still, they have a superstar team.
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  Speaker 3: They should still be, someone else has got to step up.
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  Speaker 3: That's what a team does.
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  Speaker 2: Great point.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's already human. For crying out loud for
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  Speaker 2: the longest time, he pitched and hit is what he did.
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  Speaker 2: And he did things that we haven't seen since Babe Ruth.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and you know what? The Dodgers, to their
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  Speaker 2: credit though, they could have benched him tonight, but they
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  Speaker 2: put him sixth in the lineup. So obviously Dave Roberts
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  Speaker 2: still does have faith in the guy. He really does.
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  Speaker 2: And I, and, Roberts is a heck of a coach
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  Speaker 2: with great points, Cliff. All right, we'll turn it over
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  Speaker 2: to Jason. Yeah, I agree with Cliff.
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  Speaker 6: Injury is a part of the game. He'll break out
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  Speaker 6: of it. It's go, hail, Tommy. He'll break out of it.
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  Speaker 6: He can pitch, he can hit, he can do it all.
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  Speaker 6: He's like your modern-day Babe Ruth, and he'll pull it together.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, he.
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  Speaker 6: he can still pitch and like, and like, like Cliff
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  Speaker 6: was saying, you got other players, the other brother teammates
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  Speaker 6: that can pick you up, you know, sometimes he's bad.
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  Speaker 6: Number one in the lineup tonight, he's in six. Um,
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  Speaker 6: but it, these other guys that can rely.
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  Speaker 4: On, um, at the bottom.
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  Speaker 6: Of the lineup and that, um, so, and usually the
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  Speaker 6: Dodgers do well there. So, um, nothing, nothing that I'm
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  Speaker 6: too really about, about Shohei.
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  Speaker 4: He'll, he'll pick it up.
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  Speaker 6: And just like here, I, you know, here, Javi Baez,
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  Speaker 6: you know, everyone was like complaining about it two years
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  Speaker 6: ago before the Tigers made the playoffs. Well, he had
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  Speaker 6: a hip injury. He, he replaced, got that replaced. And
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  Speaker 6: then he started hitting again. So in, he's not even
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  Speaker 6: that he's kind of over the hill player now, Javi,
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  Speaker 6: but just, just a little analogy, you know, Shohei's not
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  Speaker 6: getting any younger either. He's not going to pitch forever
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  Speaker 6: and hit like that. He's only human. Good point on that, Cliff.
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  Speaker 6: Like I said, injuries is going to happen, but he's
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  Speaker 6: Shohei and he'll figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: He'll bust out of.
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  Speaker 6: That slump, I'm sure, eventually. Hopefully not this playoff.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, John.
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  Speaker 7: Well, Like Cliff and Jason, the injuries are a factor,
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  Speaker 7: and he's been shut down, I think, what, two or
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  Speaker 7: maybe three times this season. He's come back, and again,
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  Speaker 7: most players, hey, I'm a fielder, I'm a pitcher. Even
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  Speaker 7: the pitcher, the amount of specialization in pitching is incredible,
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  Speaker 7: where you have somebody that can pitch for maybe, get
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  Speaker 7: nine or ten pitches in and they're done. He's a starter.
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  Speaker 7: Father Time gets in there. He had a lot of
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  Speaker 7: miles before he ever came to the major leagues when
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  Speaker 7: he played in Japan. The thing to look at is
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  Speaker 7: he is still in the National League Championship Series. He's
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  Speaker 7: still going to get a couple more at-bats tonight. Osher
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  Speaker 7: wouldn't bet against him.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Lucas, good point, John.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Shoei's been shut down from pitching, what, since July
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  Speaker 5: or something, trying to nurse that injury that he's got,
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  Speaker 5: so he's trying to come back. He's obviously not 100%
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  Speaker 5: the way he's hitting. I don't think he's had a
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  Speaker 5: home run since mid-August, but there's a chemistry thing within
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  Speaker 5: that team that if Shohei is not at least halfway
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  Speaker 5: up that lineup, it's going to affect that lineup. It
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: just doesn't feel right. And Dave Roberts isn't going to
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: put him at ninth because he's hitting 119. He's going
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: to keep him at least sixth. I think he's hit sixth. So, yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: it's going to be tough for him. These are some
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: nagging injuries that are really going to take a toll
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: on your body. Finally, we're seeing the show. He's not
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: a robot. Like after what? Since 2018, he's just been
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: putting up numbers. Well, he's been off and on DL
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: and IL.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Just.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: Making these unhuman Babe Ruth numbers. I mean, even Babe
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Ruth wouldn't even put up some of these numbers. It's just, man,
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: it's incredible. I mean, this is coming from a Giants fan. Like, yeah,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: this guy's a freak of nature. But it's... In the offseason,
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: it's going to be a big healing source for him.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know if he's going to be able to
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: come back this postseason and really make an impact like
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: he did last year. I really don't think that's possible
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: for him.
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: Obviously, he's going against a team that I love. But
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: let me point out a couple of things. One, in
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: the major league, he has played in 1,153 career regular
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: season games so far. We talked about in hockey how
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: the Florida Panthers last year got so injured. And part
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: of it we attribute to how many games have they played.
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: They played all of the regular season, then they played
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: how many different series for the playoffs. The same with
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: the Dodgers. They have played how many more games than
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: some of these other teams as well. That plays a
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: role into it. One of the things Dave Roberts said
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: before game two in Milwaukee is that Milwaukee is really hungry.
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: The Dodgers have been there and done that. And I'm
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: not saying they don't want to win. Please don't screw that.
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: But the Brewers are really hungry. They've not ever won
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: the World Series. They've only been to the World Series once.
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: Back in 1982, most of these kids weren't even born
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: back then that are playing in it now. And I
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: will say this. Milwaukee's relief pitchers have been pitching lights out,
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: especially in this series. I really think that since when
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: Gasser came out this last time, I think he's probably
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: going to be done for this game, so they're going
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: to be bringing in their relief pitchers. I mean, they
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: set a major league record. I think I said the
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: other day that their ERA for the relief pitchers for
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: the Milwaukee Brewers during the playoffs is like. 3 something.
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's unbelievable how low it is. And the
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: last game, 5-0. perfect innings by the relief pitchers for
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: the Brewers. It's going to be tough for Shohei, especially
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: if he's injured, especially if he's tired. But he is
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: a phenomenal player and kudos to him because yes, he
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: has played. He made his debut in Japan in 2013.
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: So he's been playing 13 years of baseball. And at
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: what level at a high level, doing everything.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Well face it he played for the la angels with
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: mike trout they made a really great one-two punch as
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: well but here's the thing i'm surprised you didn't bring
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: up candy that i'm going to mention now and that's
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: this number one i knew that the dodgers were not
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: going to sit shohei otani but pat murphy was bold
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: in game one and did not play christian yelich and
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: he played him in the second game. I don't think
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: it's anything to do with Yelich. It might have just
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: been a matchup, but Yelich was able to sit, and
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers don't think that Shohei Ohtani better have him
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: in one way or another, even if it's a designated hitter. So,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't matter. You've got a great matchup
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: between these two teams. There's no question about it. And
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: we know Hungary. You know, listen, I went through the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons, John. Think about this. You know, the Pistons,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: how many times did they get bumped around a little
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: by the Celtics until they got over the hump? And
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: when they got there, the championship, they were ready to
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: give it up a second year, and they won again.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I covered the bad boys back then. That's where the
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee Brewers are at right now. They've been knocked down.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Of course, they were beaten badly last year by the Dodgers. So, yeah,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: they had a chip on their shoulder without a doubt. So, again,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: you still have the World Series. They don't know what's
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: going to happen to the Guardians in the race series.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: You know, that's tied at 1-1. That game tomorrow will
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: be played, by the way, at 1 p.m. Eastern time
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: due to weather situations up in Cleveland. But Ohtani's great. Yellich, obviously,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: is not going to matter. These guys are superstars, and
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: they're generational players is what they are. And I think
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: that's what makes it such an incredible thing. And, yeah,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, you think about it. A year ago, he
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: pitched six shutout innings in his final start to 2025.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And you know what? A year later, he's dealing with
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: a slump. He's human. He tore the ladder earlier, but
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers are still four games away from returning to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the World Series, trying to three-team. Great stuff, everybody. Obviously,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: our featured operator and I want to make sure we
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: all have a lot to say about it. So let's
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: talk about an iconic Hank Aaron statue will be moved
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: to Georgia State's new baseball stadium. which is really kind
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: of neat because when you think about the whole idea,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: it's going to be built on the side of the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: old Fulton County Stadium where the Braves played from 1966
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: to 97 when they moved into Turner Field, which was
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: converted from Atlanta's Olympic Stadium. Construction is expected to be
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: complete by 2026.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Hey, bud, I'm on the Luck podcast.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: What's that? Oh, so it's a great thing that's happening
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta. knowing that they're actually going out there, and
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: you have Hank Aaron's statue, Cliff?
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's like, that's where he
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: broke the record. He broke the 7-15, which everyone thought
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: was unbeatable. I mean, it's like, because it was Babe Ruth.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I'm like, and nobody even came close to it. I mean,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Mays got somewhat close, but Hank Aaron just kept slugging
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: and slugging and slugging, slugging them out, knocking them out. And, yeah,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: it's just appropriate to put that there, to put that
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: statue of Hank Aaron. I mean, he is Atlanta baseball.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: He obviously came from Milwaukee, made the move down to
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Atlanta when they moved down to Atlanta, and he just
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: became part of the culture down there, part of the
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: lore of the Braves. And he's probably a big reason
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: why the Braves did– transitioned successfully there to have such
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: a massive star there and have that big run. So it's,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: it just makes total sense to have that, to have
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: that statue there for him. It's, it's, it's, you know, it's,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: it's a great decision on their part to include that
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: reverence for the history. And it's, it's, that was, that
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: was a top, top notch decision. And I can't, I can't,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I can't agree with it anymore.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: More. Go ahead, Jason. You're muted, Jason. Jason, you're unmuted.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Can you hear me now? Okay, sorry.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just going to say, definitely Milwaukee and
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Atlanta baseball, you know, Henry Aaron, the guy who hit
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: seven 15 off Brian Downing in 1974. And you see the,
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: you see the guys, the fans running on side of them,
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: you know, and, and it's, you know, it's, that's what
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: baseball is about.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: And, and, um, a great character to the game, to
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: He's contributed so much, um, not only just for Milwaukee
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: and Atlanta, um, but, uh, the game of baseball, uh,
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: And so this is a great thing for the team
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: and for tourists to come see and just kind of
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: pay homage a little bit. You know, you're looking at
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: one of the best players that ever played a game.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: So definitely.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: A good sighting, and I'm excited to see it when
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: it's put up.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Hey, John.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Just a question here.
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: The stadium that we're talking about is for Georgia State University,
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: and that's down close to where Turner Field in Fulton
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: County used to be, right?
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah. We actually built on the Fulton County Stadium site.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah because i'd uh i'd gone to a couple of
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: games at turner field and fulton county was still you
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: know well that was a parking lot you know by
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: that time but they still had the mark had it
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: marked off where he had his home run right and
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: uh you know, people forget that he finished up in
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Milwaukee too.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: He was a brewer for his last four years. Uh,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, just a great thing. And, you know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I feel good for the Braves.
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: Uh, they've done well, but, uh, when Henry got traded to, uh,
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: Milwaukee back to Milwaukee to be a brewer, uh, Braves
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: had some lean years afterwards and it took a while
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: to rebuild that franchise. Uh, thank God for Ted Turner,
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: you know, to, you know, put them on every TV
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: in the United States.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And that built up a lot of interest in that franchise.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Ted Turner was quite the person. I mean, you
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: talk about putting this franchise on his back. It's exactly
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: what he did. All right, go ahead, Lucas.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Georgia state football actually plays at Turner field, which
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: is the weirdest thing to watch. But yeah, it's great. Finally,
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: they're playing some kind of ball in that parking lot
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: and they're bringing Hank home. That is the coolest thing ever.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: I've seen that place. I've been to Turner Field so
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: many times. I've seen the parking lot. I've seen the
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: spot where he hit his home run. And for Georgia
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: State to be honoring that, that's really, really cool. And
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: I cannot wait. They're evidently finishing up construction like now,
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: sometime in the near future. So it's, I mean, any
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: kind of baseball activity that's going on in that parking
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: lot that once was a parking lot.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: So cool. And the man who made the biggest impact
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: in that area for baseball. Love it. I am all
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: for it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, Candy.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: $ 15.
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: 4 million downtown baseball stadium built on the footprint of
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: the former Atlanta Fulton County stadium where Hank Aaron hit
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: his record-breaking 715th home run on April 8th of 1974.
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: Georgia State is replacing the old chain link fence and
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: block wall monument in left field with an upgraded commemorative
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: marker for the 715th home run. Construction on the 1,000-seat
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: ballpark is slated for completion for fall of 2026. So
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: I have not gotten an update on that. But it's
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: going to be at the– they're moving the iconic statue
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: to the main entrance. of the baseball stadium. So everybody
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: goes by it when they go into the stadium. I
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: think that is a cool, great tribute to an iconic,
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: obviously a great baseball player because his number is retired
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: for every park. So kudos to them.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. All right, well, we'll talk about a guy who's
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: actually playing for the Dodgers right now. Probably a smart
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: move after where he left. I don't think Cliff will– well,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: maybe he won't bother Cliff as much compared to other
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: topics he's been in. Edwin Diaz chose the Dodgers for
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: three years, $ 69 million over a Met three years, $ 66 million.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts, Cliff, about Diaz? Was it a
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: big deal that he left?
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when he left the Mets, yeah. Myself and every
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: other Met fan was– you know, crushed because, well, we
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: lost him. We lost Nimmo. We lost Alonzo. Now, when
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: we look back at it, Edwin Diaz was not good.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: He then had legal problems with stories about possible cockfighting things.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, maybe we avoided something. But yeah,
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: at the time, it was, it was crushing. It was
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: absolutely crushing that, you know, and I, and I get it.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: He wants to go win. Dodgers keep winning.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: They need a.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Closer, you know, so he's probably just, you know, money
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: isn't as big a deal. And, but yeah, it's like,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: but then, yeah, he had those issues. He wasn't nearly
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: as good. He was actually quite terrible this year. And
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: he's in the playoffs.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Well, why?
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Because, well, The Dodgers. He's on the Dodgers. So, of course,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: he's in the playoffs. So, at least, you know, he
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: succeeded in that standpoint. Now, I don't know if he's
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: getting any further in the NLCS, which isn't any, you know,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: he's got, that's basically where he got stuck as far
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: as he got with the Mets. But, you know, it's, yeah, they, I'm, yeah,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: I was, that really hurt that he left, especially because
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: they got Devin Williams in. And Devin Williams wasn't supposed.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: To be the closer.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: They were hoping he was going to be the setup
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: guy for him. But then he got forced to be
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: the closer. And I was not thrilled when they got
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Devin Williams because he wasn't good with the Yankees. He's
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: probably one of these guys. He's like Ed Whitson. Remember
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Ed Whitson?
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: He goes to the Yankees.
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: He was terrible.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: He was horrible.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, no, not we're going to we
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: got the return of Ed Whitson here. And I'm like,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: so and then they wound up using Kodai Senga and
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: he wound up doing pretty good because he was doing
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: horribly as a pitcher. So, yeah, I mean, Edwin Diaz,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: he was great for the Mets. He's had a terrible
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: year personally, legally, professionally, even though he's in the playoffs. Um,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: but yeah, it's, yeah, it's, it just absolutely killed us
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: that we were as met bands to like, to seriously.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, we really thought we had something going, but then, yeah, well,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: partially him, partially, you know, David Stearns and being, being
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: the goof he is, um, worrying about analytics, analytics, analytics.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: And Alonzo was right. He was like, uh, you worry
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: about your numbers there and I'm going to get my
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: hall of fame plaque. But, yeah, so, yeah, Diaz, I
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I was upset when it happened, and I don't know.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Maybe we avoided something.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, Jason, what are your thoughts? You're on mute, pal.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: In 21 games this year, he only had an eight-point–
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: he had over eight.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: A run, two and two. Definitely– I don't know.
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: If you can contribute that to the injuries or what,
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: because his earned run average was, I think it was
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: six and three with the Mets in 2025 with a
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: 163 earned run average. So as I had to get
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: 98 K's in his, in his appearances, here's the thing.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: We've seen this before.
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: This could be a positive negative effect whenever teams or
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: players join different teams. He, Maybe he thought maybe this
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: could have been a different change of environment for Diaz
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: than it looked like it. But, I mean, he's still
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: in the playoffs right now. He's still, I mean, marketable,
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: in good shape. No, he didn't have a good year
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: this year, but, hey, he could still be a champion.
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: So even though he hasn't had a great year personally
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: and professionally, he's still a pitcher and he happens to
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: be on the Dodgers. So he's marketable and he'll, he'll
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: be fine.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I think. Yeah.
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: When you've got a lot of talent around you, boy,
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: that sure gives you a chance to do things you
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: couldn't always do. You know, there's takes a lot of
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: pressure off, you know, you don't have to be the
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: guy anymore. And, you know, unfortunately, you know, who did
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: the Mets really have right now other than Juan Soto?
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: You know, I know my nationals are kind of glad.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: That he's gone. You know, they're looking at James Wood
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: and CJ Abrams.
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: They got two all-stars where they all for less money
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: than they would have paid Soto. You know, again, you know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: you have other teams, you know, you look at the Dodgers,
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: just the talent around there. And, You know, he can
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: afford to do some things. He can afford to work
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: on some things. And, oh, yeah, you know, he's going
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: to get a title. He's, well, at least some playoff money.
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: I don't know if the Dodgers are going to make
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: it this year, but he'll at least get some playoff money.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Okay. Go ahead, Lucas.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that big contract is definitely daunting him, but he's
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: got Enriquez. He's got Tanner Scott. I mean, the bullpen–
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: It was a little shady, but, I mean, you've got
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: those two arms that are really electric, especially Tanner Scott,
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: who's already come up and made some moves. But Diaz,
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, he had, what, one really good year with
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: the Mets, maybe two? um and this is the worst
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: year that he's had since his first year being a
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: Met um when he got injured um so yeah it's
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: uh it's looking a little shady for for Diaz I
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: mean he's got he hasn't been terrific since his Seattle days.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, he, he's one, he's been on two all-star teams,
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: but I, I don't know. I mean, maybe the money's
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: just getting to his head. I don't know. And that, uh,
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: whatever that walkout, the Timmy trumpet walkout song is a little, uh,
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: a little too confident in him. So I, yeah, I mean,
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: after losing last year, I mean, he just hasn't had
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: the luck of the draw at all. I mean, what,
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: It doesn't really matter because he's already got a World
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Series ring that he hasn't had ever in his career. But, yeah,
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, an 868 ERA. Granny, he only played in
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: 21 games. It's, I mean, it's not looking too great.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: 18 earned runs off of in how many innings pitched?
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: 18 to 30. After 21 games? Ugh. If I were opponents,
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: I'd be like, put him in right now. So, yeah.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: He's got a long road to make something happen because
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: he's not worth the money that those doyers paid him.
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: On April 20th, he was placed on the injured list
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: due to loose bodies in his right elbow. He was
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: activated again on July 29th, placed back on the 15-day
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: disabled list due to neck inflammation. He was activated again
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: on September 18th. He hasn't been healthy. Again, I don't
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: know if it's because he's played so many games with
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: some of these teams. He's been in the league for–
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: he's 32 years old. He's been in the league since 2016,
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: so 10 years. His win-loss record is 30-38. His overall
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: ERA is 3.03 with 867 strikeouts. He hasn't had a
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: good year, but he hasn't been healthy. And just because
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: he came back off the injured list doesn't mean he
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: was completely healthy and his arm was ready to go
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: and he was ready to go.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: As we age.
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: Injuries take a toll on you and it's harder to
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: come back from some of them. So, and maybe we,
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: he rushed it and maybe he isn't completely healthy. So,
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: and the Dodgers are deep. Let's face it. They have
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: a lot of pitching. So maybe they could have afforded
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: to let him stay on the injured list a little
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: bit longer or rehab more, but remains to be seen what, where,
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: how far they'll go this year.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we all know what's ahead of us
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: in about six, eight weeks anyway, potential lockout. So he'll have,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: they don't play many games. We'll have more time to
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: rest that arm and you see what ends up happening there.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Dodgers thought they were making a good move.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: It still could be, it's a three-year deal. So even
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: though the year number one didn't work out, who knows
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: what will happen in the second, third year of the deal.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, we don't talk about the Canadian football
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: league much, but we'll hold a night. The CFL commissioner,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Stuart Johnson, announced several major rule changes. It looks like
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of these are really trying to get it
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: close to the NFL. I'll list them for you. Moving
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: to goalpost location in 2027, goalposts will move in from
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: the front to the back of the end zones. Shortening
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: the end zone in 2027, the end zone will move
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: from 20 to 15 yards. Shortening the field in 2027,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: the field will move to 100 yards. From 110 to
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: 100 yards, you know that's an NFL move. Modifying the ruse.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I never knew what the ruse was until a lot
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: of people have told me about it. 2026, single point
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: no longer awarded for punt or kick out of the
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: end zone. Give me the ruse. I'm trying to figure
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: this thing out. How many people in that league tell me?
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Automatic 35-second play clock in 2026. Play clock moving from
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: 20 to 35 seconds. The official will no longer Need
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: to reset. Modifying team bench locations in 2026. Opposing teams
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: will no longer be on the same sideline at any field. Well,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: there you go. That's interesting. Let's not get too buddy
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: with the other team. All right, Cliff, why don't you
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: size up these CFL changes?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Well, honestly, they're doing it for entertainment reasons. More touchdowns,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: more scoring, less field goals. They're trying to– well, it's–
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: if you're going to mimic anyone– why not the NFL?
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: They have a pretty good product. They have the ratings,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: they have the money. I know they tried. I mean,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, I give them, I give them credit for
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: like trying, Hey, we're the Canadian football league. I think
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: it's great that they did have the different things about them.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Cause you want to make it uniquely Canadian. You don't
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: want to necessarily be a carbon copy. You want to
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: make it a unique, but, I mean, the whole point,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: when we think of the CFL, we probably don't think
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: of it as a massive moneymaker, but they want to
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: make as much money as they can. And if they
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: think that more entertainment, more scoring, makes it easier for
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: people to understand the game a little bit better, might
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: bring in more... more ratings, more money, that kind of thing. They're,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: they're going to do that. That's what it's all about. It's,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, they, they, they own the teams because they
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: want to make money.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: It's like, they, they know their CFL teams, but they
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: still want to make money. And it's like, if that's,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: what's going to help them make money, that's what they're
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: going to do. Um, It'll be interesting to see. I
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: used to like watching, but I'm not going to say
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: I'm passionate about it.
• 46:00
  Speaker 10: I'm not.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: I'll sit down and watch some of them and I
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: do get a kick out of it. BC and the
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Argonauts and all that. I'm also a hockey fan, so
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: that might have something to do with it. It only
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: makes sense. It only makes sense to we need to
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: get more ratings. We need to make more money. We
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: need to make this more engaging for the fans, um,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: you know, make it a little bit more exciting. And it's,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: they got to do if they want to, if they
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: want to survive, if they want to compete, especially when
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: the world we live in now, where there's even more
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: attention taken away with all these different options and streaming
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: and all these other sports and all these other things,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: they got to make changes if they want to compete.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jason.
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: Um, They're going to try to make this NFL product.
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: That's wild to me. 20 seconds to 35 on the
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: play clock. They're really giving them some time on that.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: Like I said, moving to goalposts from the.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: Front to the back there.
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: If they, like I said, they're going to try to
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: market this as much as they can.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: And also.
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: This is going to help the players like, like, Hey,
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: if we can move from a jump from the CFL
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: to NFL, some of them.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: That can, they will.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: This could be a good opportunity for some of these
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: Canadian Football League players to be like, hey, we have
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: some following here.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: They might make the jump.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: You know, and some of these practice squad guys from
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: the NFL, they might jump on the CFL team if
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: they're not playing.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: So this could be a good thing for the players
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: and notoriety.
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, you know, it's
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: all about revenue and who's being profitable here. And if
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: they can do that, the Canadian Football League will do it.
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: And I think it's a good thing for them.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: All right, John, I'm curious to see what you have
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: to say about that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: What got me thinking about this was, you know, I remember,
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: you know, God, it was a long time ago, but
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: you know, who else remembers when the Canadian football league
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: expanded into the United States?
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: You know, they put franchises in Baltimore and.
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: Memphis and San Antonio and, you know, a lot of
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: cities that the NFL had kind of bypassed. And I don't,
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: you know, sometimes I wonder if this is, uh, an
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: attempt to, you know, try and, you know, get back
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: into the U.S.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Market, so to speak.
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: You know, the NFL seems to be just laser-focused on
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: expanding to, you know, Mexico City or Barcelona or London. And,
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: you know, they're forgetting cities like St. Louis and San Diego,
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: San Antonio, Portland. You know, places that could be good
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: NFL cities. And, you know, with the NFL looking overseas,
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: you know, I would see this as a chance to
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: sneak into the U.S.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Backyard.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: You know what? I don't know why I thought you
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: were going to say this, but I'll just put you
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: under the GMTA category, pal. Great minds think alike. You
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: nailed it.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: You.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've nailed a lot of things. Don't get
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: me wrong. You nailed this one right on the– that's
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: a bullseye. And I'll tell you another thing that I think, too, though,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: in addition to trying to get in the U.S. There
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: was talk that the UFL or United States Football League
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: at the time was looking into a merger there. But
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Canada's got way too many games. I don't think that
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: would have worked out. But had there been uniform or
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: unilateral rule changes, then you know where they'd be drifting
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: closer to the American game as well. You know what
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? So, I mean, and not only that, if
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: any NFL players go to Canada, they don't have to
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: learn a new game either. It's really more of a uniform.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: And maybe the CFL is looking at it. They don't
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: classify themselves as a minor league. But maybe this would
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: be a lot easier to get better players from the
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: NFL and American side to go over there knowing that
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: the rules are what they are. There's a lot of
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: guys that don't acclimate to the different rules, and now
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: they're closer to being where they're at. John, you nailed it.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Thank you.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're welcome. You nailed this about as well as
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: anybody can nail anything. All right, Lucas.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, it is a huge aesthetic thing to be
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: watching a football game, and you're just like, oh. uprights. Whoa, what's,
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: what's this? So we back in like the seventies or sixties,
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: like what's, what is this? And you automatically recognize, Oh,
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: that's the Canadian football league. Like, Oh, it's let's see
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: what it's about. Like, Oh, they're not as aggressive. They're
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: not as it just doesn't have the kick to that
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: the NFL does. So, I mean, for the expansion to be, Oh,
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm going to put the uprights in the,
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: in the back of the end zone and you're going
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: to spread it to a hundred yards.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Like, great.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: That's more profitable for, for this league. That's, that's going
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: up against the NFL. Like, Holy cow. Good luck. So
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: anything to make that happen is yeah, do it. You
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: should do it. Cause if not, you're going to be
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: so far behind that you're going to be, Yeah, you're
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: really going to be treading water and trying to avoid
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: a drown because the NFL is going to be right.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: On your neck. Katie, go ahead.
• 51:39
  Speaker 8: The part that I disagree with is their expanded playoff format.
• 51:45
  Speaker 8: The playoff format expands from three rounds to four rounds.
• 51:50
  Speaker 8: Eight of the nine teams qualify for the postseason. Only
• 51:55
  Speaker 8: the last place team misses out. That's where I kind
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: of have a problem with it because the playoffs, you
• 52:03
  Speaker 8: shouldn't have that many teams into the playoffs. But that's
• 52:08
  Speaker 8: my preference. That's a revenue stream. Exactly.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Or their revenue stream.
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: I got it. Exactly. The top two teams in each
• 52:21
  Speaker 8: division will play each other. Winners advance straight to round three.
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: Losers host elimination games. Seed five through eight play in
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: the opening play-in game. And then there's round two and
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: round three. But I think maybe moving the goalpost from
• 52:39
  Speaker 8: the goal line to the back also might help eliminate
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: some injuries, just maybe. You know, when you're running and
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: you're trying to score, you want to get across that line.
• 52:51
  Speaker 8: I don't care where you are across the line. as
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: opposed to, oh, I've got to miss the goal post
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: because it's on the middle of the end zone line too.
• 53:01
  Speaker 8: And it will, let's face it, it'll make up the
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: difference from if, because they're eliminating 10 yards total too,
• 53:13
  Speaker 8: that it's not as far, you know, because like if
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: you're moving it to the end, you're moving it, the
• 53:20
  Speaker 8: end zones are being reduced from 20 yards to 15 yards.
• 53:23
  Speaker 8: So instead of it being on the end zone, it's
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: 15 yards back besides what you're kicking. So if you're
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: trying to kick a field goal at the end, that
• 53:32
  Speaker 8: could be a long field goal, but that compensates a
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: little bit by shortening the field a little as well.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Okay. Great stuff all the way around, especially you, John.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Anybody that reads my mind is going to definitely get
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: a great stuff from me, pal. I'm thinking like the
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: guy got some sort of transparent thing looking through my head.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: That's what you did there. And I have no problem
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: with it, by the way. I think it's great.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Well, the New York Knicks, we all know, won the
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: championship last year, but they also won an NBA Cup.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: an in-season tournament. But to the Knicks' credit, they wouldn't
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: even raise an NBA Cup banner. Kudos to the Knicks. Cliff,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: your thoughts?
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: I'm completely against that stupid mid-season tournament yeah it's it's
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: the most ridiculous thing that i've ever seen it's a
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: joke i'm like they want one like wait i was
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: trying to like figure out when i first heard about
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: like they're doing what and regular skis season games are
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: i i can't even keep track of the bizarre nature
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: of why the they would do this in the middle
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: of the season Um, and, and, and then you're going
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: to have your regular playoffs and then you even mess
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: that up because it's that, that format doesn't make much
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: sense either. I, I don't blame them for not wanting
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: to raise the, raise the banner for that silly thing.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, it got it, it got, they, they, um,
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: it was when they won and they had their, uh, celebration.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: They brought that thing out. Um, they brought that championship, uh,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: that championship trophy out with the, the real one. Um, Okay,
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: but that's the last time you should see it. It'll
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: be sitting somewhere, but there should be no banner for that.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: I'm just wondering if they didn't win, if they would
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: have put that banner up.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have, but you never know. It's the Knicks.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: They might have been like, oh, maybe this is as
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: close as we're going to... But no, they did win everything.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: They won it all. They won that cup. They won
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: that cup. But yeah, it's... I'm not surprised. They really shouldn't.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: They want it. They'll probably, they'll probably even bring it
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: out when they go do the raising of thing to
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: bring the trophy out with long with the real one.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's, I don't blame them for not wanting
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: to do that. It's just a silly, it's a silly tournament.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if the tournament's going
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: to like last unless it's making money. I don't know
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: what the money making on that is, but, I don't
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: even know if that mid-season tournament is going to be
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: a thing in 10 years.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope they get rid of this because it's
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: a game. I think it's a gimmick. All right, go ahead, Jason.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate it.
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: I never liked it, the 9th and 10th play-in tournament
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: for basketball. And then the cup, the only thing we
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: should hear about the cup is maybe a FedEx cup
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: or golf or, or the Stanley cup. Not definitely not NBA. I,
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: I never was a fan of it. Obviously no one
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: else really is either. And like I said, New York,
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: maybe they would have raised it.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: They didn't win the NBA. I don't think so. I
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: don't think anybody cares. They're champions. They, and a lot
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: of people, including myself that I forgot that he even
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: won the, won that thing.
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: So most people not going to care, especially New York fans,
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: NBA fans included.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: The only ones that make care is the New York diehards, obviously.
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I, I, I can't stand that format, the
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: playoff format. Hopefully maybe they'll, they'll do away with it
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: even maybe in a couple of years. Um, but yeah, uh,
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: Nobody really cares, but New York's NBA champs, and they
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: deserve to win.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I like your attitude. Nobody cares.
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: Nobody cares, man.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I know, but I'm giving you a compliment on the air, pal. Oh, yeah.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I'm giving you a compliment. Leave it there. Stay right
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: where you're at.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: You the man, Scott.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: All right, so what about you there, Johnny? You know what?
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: The NBA wishes they had something like, uh, the, what
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: the NHL did with the Olympics or the four nations
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: tournament the year before, uh, because those were compelling games.
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: They have an all-star game that frankly is very hard
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: to watch. Uh, you know, don't get me started on
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: the NFL's flag football all-star game. You know, uh, I mean,
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: you know, that's, that's no CTV. You heard of must
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: see TV. That's no CTV champ turn the channel. Um,
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: if they could do something like the four nations, that
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: would be, that might be interesting or like what the
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: NHL did with the Olympics last year. That was again,
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: you know, that was just incredible.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: If you weren't a hockey fan, you watched it anyway.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: The only other.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Thing that comes close is maybe a major league baseball's
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: all-star game, because those can be some compelling games.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know if the NBA would work as well
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: from an international standpoint because of the level of competition.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: I think there's more competition in hockey amongst the international teams.
• 59:05
  Speaker 7: Well, I look at San Diego State right now and
• 59:08
  Speaker 7: half of their– my alma mater.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Half of their basketball roster are non-U.S. players.
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: So that seems to be, especially the NCAA, they're recruiting
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: a lot of kids on scholarships that are non-U.S.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Citizens.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Well, if you're going to go there, I might as
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: well say the same thing about florida atlantic john jackis
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: has done a good job going international and where did
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: he learn that trick from ducky may so candy i'll
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: tell you i i've asked jackis about that before and
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: he does go with international because it's so easy to
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: get these guys in the united states but you can
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: find a diamond in the rough overseas why not do
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: it and that's exactly what san diego state is doing
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: too great stuff okay go ahead lucas.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: Cannot stand that play in terms of what Opening tournament,
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: play in tournament.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Mid-season tournament. There you go. Yeah.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: It's just whenever you watch, it's just like, whoa, okay.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: Who put on the mint chocolate ice cream court here?
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: What's going on? What is this? Like Miami Vice is
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: coming through on a court. Like, why is this all pink? Like, oh,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: is this the, like, I mean, I don't even know
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: how to describe it. It's just like, okay, can we
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: stop this? This is really hurting my eyes just watching it.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, just watching NBA games in general is hazardous
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: to my health, I feel like, or my eyesight. It
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: makes you want to go eat a carrot because it's
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: just like, oh, my God, I'm losing eyesight the more
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: I watch this crap. But, yeah, yeah. NHL just got really,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: really lucky with the Olympics. I mean, holy crap, was
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: that coincidental? And that was the best thing possible for.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Well, at Four Nations, the year before was really good, too.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, it was perfect. They knew exactly what they
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: were doing. And if the NBA can make something like
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: that happen, I mean, it's going to be really difficult
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: to make happen, but they would... It would be interesting,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: like a Spain or... Portugal something to get something going.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: It would have to be like USA versus the world
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: for it to work.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: Oh God, that just sounds horrible.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: That's the only way it would work.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, it sounds like, oh gosh, it sounds like
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: a desperate attempt for what the NHL tries to do.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: It's a mock bat. Like, golly, that just, I can't,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: I can't fathom it. I mean, I mean, baseball does
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: the same thing with the world baseball classic every couple
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: of years. And it's every couple of years. It's not
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: every single year. So it's just like, okay, let's, let's
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: make people watch this because it's every other year, not
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: every single year. Ooh, let's have a play in tournament.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: And then, um, Carl Anthony towns hold up the trophies. Like, yeah,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: we won this trophy for a play in tournament. Like,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: and everyone at home is just like, who cares? We
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: don't care. It's, play basketball, get the regular season going.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: All right, Sandy.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 8: The NBA is the National Drama League. They are one
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 8: of the leagues that are searching for ways to market
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: their league, ways to promote it, ways to find different
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: things to get people interested in. Obviously, we all think
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: the Cup is not a good tournament, so it's not working. But, like,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 8: they're trying to, Emulate NFL. Look at NFL is trying
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 8: different things. They're going internationally. How many different places? So
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 8: NBA is trying to do different things. Is it working?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 8: What they need to do? I don't know what the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 8: answer is because I've never been a huge NBA fan.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 8: But it's just not my thing.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: That's all. I'll just say one thing. Adam Silver is
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: a one-tenth of the commission of David Stern was. You
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: talk about a guy, in my opinion, that, you know,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: I understand he kisses a player's butt, but David Stern
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: would not tolerate a lot of what has taken on there.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Let's continue on. Yeah, let's talk about a birthday that
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: happened that at least I know Cliff and John to know.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Little Steven Stratford turned 38 this year. a World Series
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: hero forever. What are some of your best memories, clip
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: of Steven Strasburg?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: Oh man, he was such a, he came out, he's like,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: he's going to be the next gunslinger out there. He's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: going to be Cy Young every year. Strasburg, he even
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: had the double S going on there for him. So
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: from a marketing standpoint, and hey, he started off really
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: good and he got He got banged up. He got
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: injured like a lot of pitchers do. He wasn't as
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: good as when he first came on, and that happens
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: to a lot of players. But he did– I'm not
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: saying he totally fell apart because it was a little
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: bit effective. But, yeah, I liked watching Steven Strasburg when
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: he first came up. He was lighting it up. But
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: I just wonder how good he could have been if
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: he hadn't gotten injured. That's something I think that's something
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: what records would he have broken if he didn't get
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: hurt the way he got hurt. But you're finding that
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: a lot more often with younger pitchers because of the
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: way they do things now. With the kids, all they
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: do is throw all year round. They don't play other sports.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: And he's probably the earlier part of that generation that
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: started doing that. And that probably hurt him and probably
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: contributed to that. So, yeah, but he was so good. And,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: you know, I missed the young Steven Strasburg and the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: top-notch Steven Strasburg.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jason. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: Steven Strathburg, trying to think of that, he had an
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 6: excellent velocity on his basketball when he first came into
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: the league.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: I remember.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: Killer Slider. And I agree with Cliff.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: A good five years, at least, he could probably have
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: pitched if he's healthy.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 6: I think that he started off really strong there. Then
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: And he started having a little bit of arm trouble there.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: And I think the Nationals organization were probably pretty upset
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: and pretty perturbed with what was going on because I
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: think it was him, you had Jordan Zimmerman at the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: time in the starting rotation, and Scherzer wasn't there yet.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: Scherzer was there. I don't know if Scherzer was there yet,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: but he was there. later on for that World Series run.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: 2015, yep.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so just I think he could have been, he
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: had a potential, a Hall of Fame potential, just unfortunately
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: had the arm problems, but he still got his bag,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: he still signed that contract and won that World Series,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: so more credit to him, and he could have had a.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: Better career, but his injuries caught up to him a
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: little bit.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Thanks, John.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know, people forget that he had gotten
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 7: injured very, very early in his career. You know, I
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 7: think he had Tommy John, you know, around 2011, 2012.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: 2010, yep.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: Okay, so he had been through that and he pitched
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 7: through that. And, you know, he was kind of babied
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 7: a little bit. You know, they held him out of
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 7: their first year in the playoffs. They held him out
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 7: because they, you know, didn't want to overstress his arm.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 7: And he kind of did in that World Series in 2019.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 7: But he had, you know, that's when he had really
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: become his potential. He won the MVP of that series.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: You know, there was a documentary. They were talking about
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 7: his college coach. You know, a lot of people forget
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: that he is the last major league disciple of the late,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 7: great Tony Gwynn, who was his coach at San Diego State.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 7: And he used, Tony used what he knew about hitting
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 7: and related that to straws so he could attack hitters.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: He's back at state right now.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 7: He's helping fundraising and coaching the baseball team at state.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: And I just feel bad.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: You know, there was a lot of what could have
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: been with him.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: And, you know, that was, you know, Winning that World
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 7: Series had a lot of curses because he got hurt.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 7: Tony Two Bags, Anthony Rendon, they chose between Stras and Rendon.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 7: They decided to keep Stras, so Rendon went to the
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 7: Angels and was nothing after that, which is probably one
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 7: of the things they regret. Soto left for San Diego,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 7: then the Yankees, and now the Mets. Scherzer is a
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 7: Blue Jay, although there's rumors that he may come back
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: and sign a one-year contract to retire.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: As a national.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: You know, the rest of the players, you know, they all,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 7: that team all went away quickly and there's been a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: lot of hundred lost seasons since.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: So, you know, kind of a shame. But then how
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: do they celebrate the World Series? COVID. So, you know,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: not a great time.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Luca.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: Early into his year, Tommy John, I mean, you're a rookie,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: and you're just trying to establish yourself as a hurler
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: in the big leagues, and you get that. But, man,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: 10 years, he had ERA under four consistently. He was
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: a dog, and he's definitely said in 2019– I'm going
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: to put it all on the line. I'm going to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: put it for my team. I've been here way too
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: damn long for me not to get a freaking World
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: Series title. And they threw off the juju that Bryce
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: Harper had on that team. And goodness gracious, he earned
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: every single bit of that MVP. 18 wins and 209
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: innings thrown. Dude, that's a dog for you. And then
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: after that, it was just, all right, I need to
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: finish my career. I just want to finish my career.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: After 2019, he's like, I'm done. But he's probably one
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: of the only pitchers in Major League Baseball that didn't
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: throw 20 strikeouts in a game, didn't have a no-hitter,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: but still had such a dog mentality. He's one of
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: the big pitchers in baseball. But he's kind of under
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: the radar because of those injuries. But, I mean, I'll
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: never forget 2009 Washington Nationals signed Steven Strasburg. Like, all right,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: this kid's going to be the guy. Like, he's going
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: to put up some numbers that are going to be flamethrowers.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: It was one of the first pitchers that you were like, oh,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: this guy's throwing absolute cheddar. This is great to see
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: this guy. just the arm slot that he had and
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: just like, he's blowing people by, but yeah, I'll say
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: it again. The guy was an animal.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 7: Washington had the pitching coach, uh, Mike Maddox, uh, the
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 7: brother of Greg.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: And, you know, you.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 7: Look at the players, you know, not just, you know,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 7: straws and Scherzer, uh, Gio Gonzalez, Jordan Zimmerman, uh, One
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: of the last ones, he got traded off. Luis Ippolito,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 7: I believe, is still pitching someplace in the major leagues.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I think San Diego. Why nobody's picked up Maddox as
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: a pitching coach again, I have no idea. He needs
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: a job.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: He'll get one. Okay, Candy.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: He made his.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 8: Debut, he recorded a franchise record 14 strikeouts in his
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 8: Major League debut in June of 2010. In his 12th
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 8: Major League game, he tore the ligaments in his pitching elbow.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 8: Injury required Tommy John and a year of rehabilitation. But
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: before that, he had played high school. He had played college.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 8: He was one. He was at that point considered one
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: of the best collegiate pitchers in the country. He pitched
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: for the United States national baseball team at the 2008
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: Summer Olympics, won a bronze medal. Two years later, he
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: was called by ESPN most hyped pick in draft history
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: and most hyped and closely watched pitching prospects in the
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 8: history of baseball by Sports Illustrated. We have talked, and Cliff,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 8: to your point, I really agree with any kid that
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 8: is specialized and only plays one sport and consistently does
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 8: one sport, I think you're finding they're more prone to injuries,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 8: especially early on in the career. There is something to
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: be said about using different muscles and flexing– And having
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 8: different muscles, really using different muscles, playing different sports, not
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: just being so one-sided and, oh, I've got to be
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 8: an expert in one thing. I think that has a
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 8: lot to do with some of the injuries we're seeing
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 8: these days.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Let's continue on.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: You have to look, you know, I was just going
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 7: to add one thing about Strauss. The high school he
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: went to is like a who's who. Helix High in
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 7: San Diego, Reggie Bush, Bill Walton, Alex Smith, Bill Walton's brother, Bruce,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 7: who played in the NFL and played for football at UCLA.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 7: My God, you come out of that type of basically
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 7: sports factory, you're going to be good.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going to close a proper talk. One,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: at least he stayed his entire career on the spot.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: But when you talk about his career being shortened, it
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: only reminds me of one individual who got in the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Ever heard of Sandy Koufax? Short career,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: got in the Hall of Fame, injury slowed him down.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Who knows what could have been. Sandy got in the
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. But I'm glad that Steven Stratford was
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: able to sell a career and get a World Series,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: played a lot of it. And at least he didn't
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: come up ringless like a lot of players have been
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: able to. With that said, you want to hear a
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: bizarre story? I'll give you one because Troy Palomaro, was
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: fined $ 10, 000 for calling his wife during a game to
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: let her know he was okay. After leaving a 2011
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: game with concussion-like symptoms, Halamala used his phone on the
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: sideline to reassure his wife the NFL fined him for
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: violating its sideline phone policy. All right, Cliff, go ahead.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's extreme to, like, fine this guy. I mean, it's...
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: I'm like, these guys are putting their bodies on the
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: line all the time. Um, it's not like he was
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: like calling someone to say, Hey, I'm awesome. Hey, it's like, uh,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: it's like, I'm, I'm calling someone to say, Hey, did
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: you see my highlight? Ain't I great? No, he, he,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: he got, you know, he got hurt. You know, he
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: wanted to make sure his wife knows like, Hey, I'm
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: all right. Don't worry about it.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 10: It was real.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Um, you know, it's, that's the, I don't have a
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: problem with him doing that. And so they should have
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: like figured that out. You know, it's like you're, you're
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: fighting him because he's, you know, he's, he's actually got
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: hurt and you're, especially with the concussion, how many issues
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: you having with concussions with all these lawsuits now and
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: CTE and all, all of that. And you're going to,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: you know, give him a hard time about that. He
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: wasn't showboating. It wasn't showboating. It was, it was, it
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: was something real. So I think there was this ridiculous,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: absolutely ridiculous. to find him to tell, you know, he's
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: telling his wife, Hey, I'm all right. Don't worry about it.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: You know, and then to do that, that's just, that's,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: it's just, it's myopic, absolutely myopic on the, on behalf
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: of the NFL.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I could agree with a lot of what the
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: NFL does, but I'm not buying it on this one.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Anytime you're talking about concussions and a head injury and
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: the wife is concerned about it, that's when you just
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: have to kind of look the other way. Go ahead, Jason.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: I don't know if he heard the story about Joe Montana. Well,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: Joe Montana called his wife from the sidelines. He goes, Oh,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: I wonder if I can, uh, one of these phones
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: works that he calls them, you know, Hey, find him.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: But that's just the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: Like let the man call home or call his wife
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: and say, Hey, I'm okay. You know, I'm sure there's
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: some people probably do it all the time in that tent. Um,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: I think it's kind of petty, man. I mean, let
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: these guys call. I mean, if they're being immature about
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: it on the sidelines and stuff like that, that's different.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 6: But if they're able to call and during the game,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 6: it just depends on the situation. But if you're calling
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: at halftime or something, that's not a big deal. Let these,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: let these players call a family and, and.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: And stop with the finding. It's just like, you already
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: made enough money. NFL, like you don't need to find it.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: And these players don't care. They're like, Hey, we're going
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: to do it anyway.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: We're going to wear our shoes.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: We're going to wear our cleats, whatever we want, go
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: ahead and.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 6: Find us because we want to be heard. They want
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: to be seen. They want to be heard. And, and
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 6: with this, it's just kind of ridiculous.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 7: You know, the NFL wants to turn their head, you know,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 7: you know, probably the most evil word you can say
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 7: to the NFL commissioner is concussion. because they seem to
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 7: hide from that word. They don't want to admit it.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 7: They don't want to have anything to do with it.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 7: They don't want to admit that concussions exist or that
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 7: the game can cause them, especially with the way that
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 7: players are taught to tackle the equipment that they wear.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 7: You know, it's, well, stupidity. You know, they should be
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 7: thanking God that he wasn't calling his bookie.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: So, enough said.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Go ahead, Lucas.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, goodness gracious, how inhuman of the NFL to
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: find– a husband for calling his wife to tell him, Hey,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: I don't have a concussion. I'm okay. That is so inhuman.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: Come on, have some like, have some kind of emotional
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: balance there. Have some dignity. Like you're, you're running. I
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: know you're running a business, but just think about if
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: it was your, I mean, You have an accident and
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: you're calling your wife. Like you're going to get fined
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: for calling your wife? Come on. That is so low ball. Like, okay,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: I get it. You're calling because there might be some
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: communication flaws or like there's a lot of just calls
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: being made on telephones and you're not supposed to when
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: you're on the field. Like, oh, come on. Like just
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: grow up. That is so unacceptable. And there should have
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: been a review on that. There should have been a, hey, okay,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: he called his wife. It's okay. No, they actually, they
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: maybe went through a vote and agreed, okay, this is,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: we're going to find Troy Polamalu from her. So I'm like,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: come on. Here, that's so bad. That is the worst
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: possible thing that you can do. I mean, you have
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: families that are watching.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Like, come on.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: It does not make one lick of sense. I mean,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: and the NFL should look at that. It's like, hey,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: all right, he's calling his wife.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: It's okay.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: He's calling his family members. He has a soul. He
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: has a family member. It's not like, oh, I can't
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: call my wife because it's protocol. Like, your wife needs
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: to know that you're okay. Come on.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 8: The NFL's policy strictly bans players from possessing or using
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 8: cell phones or other electronic means or devices in the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 8: bench area from 90 minutes before kickoff through the end
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 8: of the game. In the end, Troy appealed his fine
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 8: and he did win his appeal. But that's why he...
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 8: He was fine because he did use it. I know
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 8: there are rules, and rules are meant to be broken,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 8: and there has to be some common sense that plays
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 8: a role no matter what rule you're talking about. I'm
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 8: glad he won his appeal and didn't have to pay
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 8: it because that's just one thing I didn't agree with.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, a few things I have to get to tonight,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: and we'll talk about Andre Risen, former Michigan State star
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: that went out there and played for, I believe, the
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons, but became a NFL great. Andre Risen, well,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: he served some time in the Oakland County Jail after
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: pleading guilty to a second offense of OWI, charged spending
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: from an arrest in Troy. The court records show the
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Flint native and Michigan State standout pleaded guilty to an
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: and was sentenced to a month in jail along with 2,300 fines.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: Rison was one of the NFL's top receivers during the 1990s,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: earning five Pro Bowl selections, two first-team All-Pro honors, and
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl championship with, you know what, the Green
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: Bay Packers. I mean, you hate to see athletes fall
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: in this direction, but what are your thoughts about what
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: transpired here, Cliff?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a great, uh, wide receiver. I, I,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: I love watching him play, but you know, it's, it's,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: they make mistakes sometimes and he made some mistakes along
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: the lines. Um, and yeah, he's gotten older and he's
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: learned from it, but he, he, he was, he was
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: married to, uh, what was it? Uh, uh, left eye
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: Lopez and she passed away.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Um, Yeah.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: And well, yeah.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, she set fire to, so I thought, did she,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: didn't she pass away?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: She's gone.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: She passed away. Um, but yeah, she, uh, she set
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: fire to his mansion.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: So it's like, he, he definitely lived the superstar life
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: there for a while. He's probably got caught up in that. Um,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: but since then he's, he's gotten older as we all
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: do grow up a little bit. Um, It's a story
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: that's been told lots of times before. He's actually lucky
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: because he's still breathing. A lot of those guys go
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: down the track and they're not. It's good that he
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: was able to turn things around. I think he's mentoring
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: new receivers, kids that want to take that track, that
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: career path into into professional football. But it was rough
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: going there for a little bit. But he figured things
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: out eventually.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you get Andre Rison, this local guy from Michigan State,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: Super Bowl champion with Green Bay in the 96 season there.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: I can't say enough about his NFL days with Atlanta.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: And, you know, he had a solid career. I think
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: he was on Cleveland, played a little bit with them.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: This is just an unfortunate situation where sometimes things get
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: caught up. We've seen this with Mark Ingram. He had
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 6: some tax issues. I think he's still serving time for
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: that even. And you see these former players, they have
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: issues underlying more so. Ryerson is a great player.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: Probably not a Hall of Famer. He could have been,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: I think, if he was on the right team for it. But,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: you know, like I said, it was with Left Eye Lopez,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: and I did hear that story.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: But definitely a great receiver. A local guy here.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: I think he was on the team with Lorenzo White.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: On the 87 Rose Bowl team. I believe he was
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: on that team.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: You hate to see this stuff happen, but I'm pretty
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: sure he'll get back on his feet.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: I have memories.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 7: I was at a game in San Diego when the
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 7: Browns were playing the Chargers. Half the cheers out of
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 7: the stands or the jeers were Hey, Andre, bad moon left.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 7: I was burning down your house again. And, uh, you know, Oh,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 7: I'm sure he heard a few of those, but, uh,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 7: you know, it's amazing how, uh, you know, sometimes the
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 7: big life, you think it's never, ever, ever going to
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 7: go away and it goes away in the snap of
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 7: an eye. But the one thing, you know, I looked
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 7: at it and, uh, he is actually, he's got some, uh,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 7: football camps where he's helping kids prepare to, uh, go
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 7: on to play college ball. And he's also coaching in
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 7: high school, I believe. And, you know, that tells me that,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 7: you know, Hey, he's trying to do something positive with
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 7: his life. And, you know, I'm seeing a lot of,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 7: you know, we all heard about Michael Vick, you know, suspended,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 7: you know, he was more famous for dog fighting than
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 7: he was being a quarterback, but now he's coaching the
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 7: local Norfolk state H HBCU college here in Virginia.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: He took less money to take the job.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 7: He was offered, I think, Sacramento State, but he took
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 7: less money to stay close to home and work with
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: kids who need to learn from his mistakes. This is
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 7: at my old high school in St.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Louis.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 7: Jeremy Macklin, who was the number one draft pick in Mizzou,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 7: played with the Eagles, is now coaching high school ball
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 7: in Kirkwood High School in St.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: Louis.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: I actually interviewed him. I interviewed him when he was
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: on the Eagles.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Great things.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, Lucas.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: Man, I mean, he was a heck of a player
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: at Michigan State. And then he turned into a phenomenal
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: player with the Falcons. I mean, he was under the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: realm of uh, primetime and, uh, Brian Jordan. And, uh, yeah,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: he played a little basketball, Michigan state. He wasn't the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: greatest basketball player, but he got his, he got his
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: rounds in. He also ran track. Um, but yeah, I mean, he,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, several thousand yard rush, um, receiving, um, seasons
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: for him. I mean, whenever you, Yeah, he had so
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: much fame and then, golly, that is such a tough
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: thing to have when your ex-wife burns your house down
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden you are filled with
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: that burden. Yeah, that will hurt you probably for a while.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: I can't imagine how bad that feeling is. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: for him to be coaching again and trying to do
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: stuff do good for the community man that's terrific but
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: so unfortunately just life had a unexpected turn for him
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: and yeah now he's in this situation hopefully he finds
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: some kind of some kind of turnaround yeah.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: I'll say one thing before I turn over the candy
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Michael Vick is a good story. Tony Dungy became a
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: mentor for Michael Vick, which got him back in the NFL.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: And the dogfighting, you're right, does overshadow his career. But
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing. You're right. He stayed on
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: the East Coast at Norfolk State when he could have
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: gone to Sacramento State to get more money. And he's
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: doing a pretty good job out there. So, you know,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: sometimes people make big mistakes, but they can rebound from them.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: And more power to... Vic and more powered Andre Rison
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: has taken advantage of some of the misfortunes that he's
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: had to try to get his life straightened out as well.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: All right, Candy, go ahead.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 8: He is one of the few players to win professional
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 8: football championships in both the United States and Canada. He
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 8: holds an NFL record for scoring a touchdown with seven
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 8: different teams. He has 10,205 touchdowns. career receiving yards in
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 8: the NFL, 84 touchdowns, 743 receptions. Unfortunate that he's in
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 8: the situation that he is. Just some bad decisions.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: All right, I have one more topic before we talk
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: about Florida Atlantic University football. And believe me, what I
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: have in store for you is something you really want
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: to take note of, especially if you're a football fan.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: And that being this. Taylor McGregor is leaving ESPN full-time.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, leaving to join ESPN full-time. Taylor McGregor is
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: leaving the Cubs. Bright young lady. What are your thoughts about,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, I guess she feels ESPN
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: has given her a better opportunity. But I've seen her work,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: and she is. Taylor McGregor, the young lady who does
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: a great job out there, Cliff.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, she's worked her way up in the industry.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: She's had some stops along the way. She's done amazing
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: work with the Cubs. And now she's being asked to
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: go national. I mean, it's just the next step with it.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: Not to say that, you know, the Cubs, I mean,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: Cubs are iconic. But when you're being asked to cover
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: the national coverage, that's what every person on television, most
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: television people want to do, get that big national and
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: international iconic spot. So I can't really blame her to
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: wanting to go there. I mean, it makes sense. I'm
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: sure she's going to bring her own special brand. of
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: what she's been doing over the years. She's worked her
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: way up. She's learned. Um, and now she's, she's, she's
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: reaping the benefits of all that hard work, you know,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: like so many other people. And I'm, I'm looking forward
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: to see how she, uh, how they integrate her, how
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: they use her, uh, in the game and in the
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: game presentation and how they, how, how, how she'll, uh,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: add to the, add to the broadcast.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: It's going to be a different dynamic with her there. And, um,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: and you never know, but her, she might start doing something.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: They might give her a new role. She might do
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: something there that will change how we do baseball. And
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: maybe she, you know, there might be something new that
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: she might be a new trendsetter. So we just have
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: to wait and see how it goes.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: And she's a talented young lady. I wish her well.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: You're right. Leaving the Cubs is an iconic franchise, but
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: you've won a national network of the different animals. And
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: by the way, I just noticed shortly, hey, Otani did
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: get a base hit in their game. So we talked
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: about this a little bit earlier, but he gets a
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: base hit tonight. So, you know, obviously, Candy, we know
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: who your allegiance is there for. Go ahead, Jason. Talk
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: about Taylor McGregor.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: I think it's a good opportunity for her. She really
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: did a nice job in Chicago for the Cubs.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, like Cliff said, it's a next step. uh,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 6: just for like any of us, like, Hey, it's a
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: great opportunity and it's fun. You know, like we're doing
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 6: this stuff without the most important thing is just to
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 6: have fun.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: And she's having fun.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 6: Obviously those, those reporters, that team knows that major league
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 6: baseball knows it. And that's why they wanted her to, um,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: you know, to SOAR and to national. So it's a
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: great opportunity for her.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: And I think she'll do fine. Um, we had a guy, Ryan.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 6: Field, who was a tiger's announcer for sideline for, for
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 6: many years. And he went out to New York, um,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 6: and he's doing well there. So, um, great opportunity for her. And, um,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 6: and I'm certain she'll do very well in her new role.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: Okay. Go ahead, Johnny.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 7: How can you not root for somebody to, you know,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 7: get a chance and reach for the moon? You know,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 7: you want to see somebody that does that.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: They do it.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 7: Well, I haven't, you know, seen a lot of the
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 7: Cubs broadcast, not like when they were, you know, with
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 7: Harry Carey back in the day, but you know, I'm
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 7: always rooting to see a regional sportscaster try to get national,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 7: you know, Jason, you were so right.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: Reach for the stars. Live the dream.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 7: Have fun. I hope she has a lot of fun.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: Lucas? She is going to do so great. She gets
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: involved with the broadcast. She is heavily interactive and she's
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: not just another pretty face on the sidelines or in
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: the dugout. She actually gets does her research, she actually
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 5: gets it done and ESPN sees that. So what they're
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: able to do with her, I'm stoked to see what
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: the broadcast is going to look like with her in,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: in the dugout and being interactive. Cause it's, uh, yeah,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, I could add a whole nother dynamic value
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 5: to our broadcast that you typically wouldn't see in your,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 5: And you'd get excited to watch more of it because
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 5: of those interactions that she's going to be able to do.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: And she was able to do with Marquis. Let's see it.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: I'm all for it.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: I'm wishing her every single bit of the best because
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: I know she can do it.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: Let's say tell a young lady. Go ahead, Kani.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, anytime you see somebody that has moved
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 8: up the ranks, and let's face it, We've seen ESPN
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 8: fire up a lot of their big name people because
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 8: they couldn't afford them. So what are they doing? They're
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 8: going ahead and they're hiring younger people that have not
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 8: been in the business as long on the national stage.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 8: It's great opportunities for the young reporters to get experience
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 8: and gain experience. So kudos to her. not as much
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 8: as a fan of ESPN anymore as I used to be.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: Likewise. Our final topic of the night comes from Boca Raton, Florida.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: Tell you one thing. If you haven't seen Caden Belkamp
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: play quarterback, you should because you might see him on Sunday.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: And for that matter, you might see his coach, Jack Kittley,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: coaching at another college job if he keeps winning at FAU.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: And this guy ended up mentoring Patrick Mahomes. Well, Against Navy,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: Caden Velkamp, I have his numbers right in front of me.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: And Candy will update them to date. But Caden Velkamp,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: 27 for 32, 386 yards, and five touchdowns. Five touchdowns.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: And then Candy will get you. We have a couple
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: sound bites we want to share with you. But if
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: you want to talk about a guy, and for that matter,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: Caden Velkamp is on the Senior Bowl watch list. We
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: got a stud in Boca Raton. Candy, go to the tape.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: We're bold.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, that's my dream for sure. And coming
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 10: back and playing for Kidd, like y'all know, I've signed
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 10: to come back, signed my contract in October. So I
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 10: was one of the first ones in the boat, and
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 10: I knew I needed guys around me. So I was
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 10: trying to get guys to sign and come back, specifically Easton.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 9: And you can tell you got it.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 10: But Coming back and being with Coach Kidd, he's coached
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 10: so many guys that are in the NFL.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 9: We've actually had this conversation. The air raid offense.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 10: Gets knocked a lot in the league just because people
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 10: say that it's simple.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 9: It's really not. I have to handle literally everything.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 10: The only thing that I'm not necessarily handling is where
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 10: we're pointing at. We've talked about how that translates to
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 10: the NFL. That's always a question that the scouts are
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 10: asking Coach Kitt and everybody in the building is, you know,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 10: how much does he have to handle offensively at the
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 10: line of scrimmage?
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 9: And like I said, I have to handle everything.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: So it was a no-brainer to.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 10: Come back and play for him, though. I mean, he's
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 10: my guy. I love this school. I love FAU. I
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 10: love being here. I love playing for Coach Kitt and
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 10: the staff.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 9: Like, you know, it was neat.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: And now we're going to go to the coach. Zach
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: Kittle is going to talk about his quarterback. yeah i
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: mean he's continuing.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 11: To get better you know i mean i felt like
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 11: last year again y'all you know for people that don't
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 11: know him only got a small taste of kate milk
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 11: camp you know he got hurt early last year and
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 11: um i mean again just what a tough dude to
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 11: play through what he played through last year and battled
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 11: a lot of highs and lows a lot of great
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 11: games a lot of not great games some turnovers some
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 11: touchdowns and And he's handled these last nine months like
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 11: an absolute bro. And so excited.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: With where he's at.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 9: I think if he keeps having games like this, he'll.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: Be playing on Sundays.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: And the follow up I have with it is whose
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: idea was it to go for their 60 yard field goal?
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 9: Well, it was mine because I've got confidence that he
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 9: can make that kick. We've seen him do it a lot.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 9: And so I knew if we could get, again, if
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 9: I could get told, okay, let's get five yards here.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: And this guy can make it.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 9: And we got the five yards and he booted it
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 9: in there.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: All right, next one, Bobby. Well, there you have it. Okay, Candy,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: you have some stats for Velkamp real quick?
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 8: Yes, he is 128 on 175 attempts. So his completion
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 8: percentage is 73.1. He has 1,427 yards, 12 touchdowns, and
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 8: only two interceptions. And no fumbles left.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question, Cliff? Everybody talks about
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: Gary and Mento here in Miami, but do you think
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: we have a hidden gem down here in Boca Raton
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: and Shane Velkamp?
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I think he was really smart to go the
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: extra year. Most quarterbacks to play this year in college
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: because a lot of quarterbacks, hey, I want to get out,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: want to be pro, but he knew he needed to take.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: He wanted to get more tutelage. He wanted more experience,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: and it's working. The coach knows how to get the
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: most out of him. He wants to be a pro,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: and this is the best experience for him. He's really
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: learning how to play the game, play the game right,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: and he's just showing what he can do. Sometimes you struggle,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: and it's all coming together for him now. It's coming
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: together for him. His stock is going up. It's Florida Atlantic,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: and that's not something– I know you're down there, but
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: that's not a school everybody thinks of right away. But
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: his stock is going to be up. He keeps doing this.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: It's not going to matter what school he's from, and
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: they're going to– he's definitely going to get– selected in
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: the draft. His stock value is going to go up
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: and up. This was a great decision by him to
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: do that. The coach is really showing how well he
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: can mentor and teach and get these kids to the
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: next level. It's so impressive. I hope he does become
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: like the next Patrick Mahomes.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 9: I really do.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes has been a delight to watch. If he's
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: anywhere near him it's he's just going to make the
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: NFL better when he does get there.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: Okay. Jason. Yeah.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 6: Uh, the sky's the limit for this kid and he's
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 6: got a coach who cares about him and I can
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 6: tell he cares about the kickers. Uh, what, what that
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 6: great job, by the way, Scott, on that, on those questions.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 9: I love that.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: And, and that.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 6: Video, um, Yeah, like I said, there's a coach who
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 6: cares about his team and his players. And this guy
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 6: is the sky's the limit. Depending on who's one of
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 6: the worst teams, will he be in the top five,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 6: top ten draft next year as far as quarterbacks or players?
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 8: Maybe.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 6: Atlanta could be. Miami could be another team. Atlanta, I
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 6: just heard earlier, Tua got released.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: Like I said, this is a.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 6: Great opportunity for him to actually stay for another year,
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 6: gain some more experience, but gain some more experience on
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 6: how to approach transitioning from college to the NFL, too.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 6: So it's all about coaching, and it's all about his mentorship,
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 6: if he can stay healthy and stay positive about how
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 6: he plays.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 4: And I love the fact, two picks, that's it.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 6: You know, it's all about turnovers and keeping those turnovers down,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 6: and he's done a great job.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: Well, it's amazing that you mentioned Miami because Miami Dolphins
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: always send scouts to their games anyway. So if anybody
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: knows more about Cade Velkamp than the Dolphins, let me
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: know because they have all the time. Go ahead, Johnny.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 7: You know, I think of some of the small college quarterbacks.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 7: you know, whoever heard of Josh Allen, when the bills
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 7: took him rock Purdy, I think he was close to Mr. Irrelevant,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 7: but you know, look.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: At what he's doing with the 49ers that he had
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: the common sense to know that he needed to spend another, a.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 7: Little bit more time working on his craft, developing his game.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 7: That tells me that he's got the mental fortitude, the
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 7: intelligence and the discipline to, to, you know, be a success. And,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 7: you know, I can't think of another NFL team that
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 7: could use him more than Atlanta. God, hope he doesn't
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 7: go there because that's a, they don't do well with quarterbacks.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: You know, Miami, possibly, you know, that would probably be
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: a good fit.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 7: But, oh, heavens, you know, Don't let him go to
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 7: the Chargers because the only way a Charger gets a
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 7: Super Bowl ring is when they get traded to their
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 7: next team.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: That's good. Great line. Things aren't working too well, though,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: for Tim Harbaugh these days. Go ahead, Lucas.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 5: This kid is freaking good. I mean, you've got a
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 5: FAU kid that's, I mean, he only gave up two
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: picks to Florida.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: And he threw for 276. That's pretty solid against a
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: really good Florida team this year. I mean, that's speaking numbers.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, heck, the past couple of games that he's had,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 5: holy shwink, she's 45-17, 66-10. I mean, they're kind of
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 5: slump teams, but you are putting up some great numbers,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 5: and it's consistent, too. I mean, the scouts are definitely
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: going to be after this guy. Man, after looking up
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 5: what his stats are, it's going to be fun to
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: watch this kid in the draft. I mean, yeah, the
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: Dolphins definitely need him. I mean, maybe he can be
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 5: the next Matt Ryan. I don't know. I'm just forecasting things.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: But yeah, this kid looks like he can um help
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 5: a NFL team and uh in the next future because
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: it's surprising he didn't hit the portal I mean something
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 5: with this coach is definitely stuck with him it's like
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 5: okay I'm definitely going to be learning with um with
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 5: him if I stick around and he didn't he's not
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 5: like other quarterbacks that have these type of numbers so
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 5: like oh, I'm going to go to another school after
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 5: throwing for 3,600 yards last year. I'm like, no. He's
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 5: going to stay where his roots are. Good for him.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 5: That's great. Dang, Scott, you got a little gem out there.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 5: Good for you.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Well, you know what? His top receiver
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: is Easton Messer. So you'll hear that name down the road.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: And his favorite receiver, they get a lot of yards together.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing that's so unique about FAU. Number one,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: they did not have one coach leave during the offseason.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: I'll bring that sound bite on probably in another show,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: probably next week or two. But they did not have
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: one coach. And Zach Kittley and Caden Veldkamp, these two
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: are really loyal to each other. And Veldkamp's smart.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 8: You know what?
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: NIL money or not, it doesn't matter. I'm going to
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: make my money in the NFL anyway. I have a
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: great coach who's an offensive genius. He's a quarterback coach
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: and his head coach and offensive coordinator. All three rolled
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: into one. Candy, you've been watching this guy with me.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: Some thoughts?
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 8: Not much more to add. You just added what I
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 8: was going to say.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: So you can add a little bit more. You can
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: think on your feet. You watch a guy on the field.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: I don't get that view. Go on.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 8: He sees the field very well. Obviously, he's not throwing picks,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 8: so he's very careful with the ball as well. He
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 8: has good relationships with his players, and that makes a difference, too. So, yeah,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 8: sky's the limit for him.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a hidden gem.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 8: I don't know that he's so hidden, but, yes, he
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 8: is a gem.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: We didn't help the hidden part out tonight. We're making
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: a moan. But, yeah, good point, Candy. Yeah, but the
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: thing is I've had a chance to watch them the
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: last couple of years, hope to get one more game
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: out of them, and hopefully I get to the senior
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: bowl where we're hoping to get to as well later on. But, again,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: I'm fortunate I can go ahead and watch a Darian
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: Mento with Miami, but then you go up I-95, what
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: do you have? You have Caden Veldenkamp. Not too bad
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: for some quarterbacks in the area. All right, that's the
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: very good thing right there. That does it for this
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: edition of Sports Exchange. We're not done quite just yet. Cliff,
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: why don't you let everybody know how they get a
• 1:50:58
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• 1:51:02
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• 1:51:04
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• 1:51:08
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• 1:51:12
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• 1:51:17
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• 1:51:19
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• 1:51:24
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• 1:51:27
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• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, Jason, go ahead.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can find me on Wednesday nights on the.
• 1:51:34
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• 1:51:38
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• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: Glad to have you. Both you and Cliff are doing
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: really well. Proud to have you on the team. And
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: I'm even prouder to have John Hopkins on it as well.
• 1:51:50
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• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:51:54
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• 1:51:58
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• 1:52:02
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• 1:52:07
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• 1:52:10
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• 1:52:17
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• 1:52:19
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• 1:52:22
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• 1:52:30
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• 1:52:32
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  Speaker 2: I want to.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: I want to make it happen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you want to come here next week?
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  Speaker 5: For my– how far is it from– Well, no.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, are you going to be able to
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  Speaker 2: do a show next week remote?
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  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I'll be here.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, cool. All right. I'll make it. So you got
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  Speaker 2: your uncle John. We'll have his nephews Jason and Lucas
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  Speaker 2: next week and Candy and I. And Cliff, you're going
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  Speaker 2: to have a good time. The only thing you have
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  Speaker 2: to cough up are a few stories. Fair enough. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So next week you're going to have John, myself, Lucas, Jason,
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  Speaker 2: and Candy to provide you with our sports updates. And Candy, well,
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  Speaker 2: great job again. And we have a lot more work
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  Speaker 2: ahead of us. So great job on my group. John,
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  Speaker 2: looks forward to seeing you tomorrow. And we'll see if
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  Speaker 2: we can do a whole lot better. So God bless
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: everybody for joining us. Thank you for joining us on
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  Speaker 2: the Sports Exchange. See you next Wednesday night around 9
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  Speaker 2: o'clock p.m. Eastern time. Have a great day and hope
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: you enjoyed the show. Bye now.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: Have a great night.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: Have a good one.