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Affluenza Teen Busted Again, Threatens to Bite off Finger, Walks Free After Three Rape Claims · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Is this the tip of
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  Speaker 1: the iceberg? Are there more victims out there? What does
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  Speaker 1: this guy have to do to get arrested and put
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  Speaker 1: behind bars? I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us here at Fox Nation in
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  Speaker 1: series X one eleven. Take a listen to our cut
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  Speaker 1: eleven our friends at wc SC Live five. Court records
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  Speaker 1: So nineteen year old Bowen Turner was arrested and charged
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  Speaker 1: with disorderly conduct this morning. According to a report from
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  Speaker 1: the Orangeburg County Sheriff's Office, when a deputy arrived on
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  Speaker 1: North Road in Orangeburg just before midnight, they found Turner
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  Speaker 1: walking in the middle of the road. The deputy put
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  Speaker 1: on the blue lights and when Turner started walking toward
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  Speaker 1: the car, the report states, he was staggering and smelt
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  Speaker 1: like alcohol. According to a fish, Turner said at first
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  Speaker 1: he was coming from a bar, but then changed his
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  Speaker 1: answer to say he was coming from the woods. The
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  Speaker 1: report states Turner waved his Miranda rights and answered the
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  Speaker 1: questions the deputy asked, saying he had been at a
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  Speaker 1: bar on North Road near Lake Edisto Road, where he
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  Speaker 1: had consumed three alcoholic drinks despite being underage. Officials say, well,
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  Speaker 1: at the detention center, Turner was told he had to
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  Speaker 1: wear a mask, and he responded by saying, if you
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  Speaker 1: try and put that mask on me, I will bite
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  Speaker 1: your finger off. According to the report, Turner was told
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  Speaker 1: he was being recorded and then he allowed a mask
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  Speaker 1: to be put on him. Okay, that right there tells
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  Speaker 1: me he knows darn well what he's doing. When he
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  Speaker 1: realizes he's being recorded, he suddenly straightens up and puts
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  Speaker 1: on the mask. You know, just think about it. If
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  Speaker 1: this guy, drunk as a skunk can do whatever he
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  Speaker 1: wants with immunity, he's on straight probation on his third
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  Speaker 1: rape accusation. I find his victim extremely credible. Now he
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  Speaker 1: can walk into a bar under age and drink three
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  Speaker 1: liquor drinks. Thank you for being with us, I Meanancy Grace,
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  Speaker 1: this is crime Stories. Thanks for being with us on
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  Speaker 1: Fox Nation in series XM one eleven. Sometimes it leaves
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  Speaker 1: you speechless, staggering around drunk. That's bad enough, but with
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  Speaker 1: three rape claims under your belt, take a listen to
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  Speaker 1: our cut one. The father of Dallas Dollar says in
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen his daughter was the president of her senior class,
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  Speaker 1: Smart and outgoing, a friend to almost everyone she met.
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  Speaker 1: That was just her. She had a huge heart. One night,
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  Speaker 1: Dallas came home from a party intoxicated, distraught, and covered
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  Speaker 1: in these bruises, saying she had been sexually assaulted. It
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  Speaker 1: was very upsetting, obviously, and very young, disheartening and very
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  Speaker 1: I like you use the word tragic. Once we found
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  Speaker 1: out who the alleged individual was Dallas, his family says
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  Speaker 1: they later pressed charges against her classmate, sixteen year old
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  Speaker 1: Bowen Turner. Public record show he was arrested and charged
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  Speaker 1: with first agreed criminal sexual conduct in Bamberg County in
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  Speaker 1: January of twenty nineteen. Turner was released on bond, but
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  Speaker 1: was required to wear a GPS monitor. A few months later,
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  Speaker 1: a judge allowed him to remove it. But less than
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  Speaker 1: five months after that first arrest, while he's still out
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  Speaker 1: on bond, he's arrested again Listen to cut too. But
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  Speaker 1: less than five months after that first arrest, while he
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  Speaker 1: was still out on bond, court documents show Turner was
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  Speaker 1: arrested again. He was slapped with that same charge, first
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  Speaker 1: degree criminal sexual conduct, and affidavit reveals the arrest also
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  Speaker 1: stems from a party, this time in Orangeburg County. The
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  Speaker 1: victim was not named because she was a miner at
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  Speaker 1: the time, but Chloe Bess says she was the one
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  Speaker 1: sexually assaulted by Turner in June of twenty nineteen when
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  Speaker 1: she was sixteen. I just remember being like so petrified,
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  Speaker 1: like I was frozen. I honestly just remember sitting there
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  Speaker 1: looking at the stars. She's like praying for it to
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  Speaker 1: be done, just waiting for it to be OVERWRAS. You're
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  Speaker 1: hearing Chloe Bess one Bow and Turner's many victims, and
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  Speaker 1: she's joining us today along with Carl Staller. This is
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  Speaker 1: another rape victim, Dallas Staller's father. You heard his voice
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  Speaker 1: earlier describing his daughter as having great grades, the class president.
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  Speaker 1: She was bullied so badly by other students and teachers
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  Speaker 1: when she leveled rape claims against Bow and Turner. This
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  Speaker 1: little girl committed suicide. And there's a third victim as
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  Speaker 1: a juvenile, a third rate victim whose name we're not releasing.
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  Speaker 1: They are joining us along with Sarah Ford, the legal
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  Speaker 1: director of South Carolina Victim Assistance Network, Karen Start New
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  Speaker 1: York psychologists joining us out of Manhattan Katie Cammon, breaking
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  Speaker 1: news anchor, investigative reporter on the case from the very
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  Speaker 1: beginning and topo Padilla, Bill Bondsman, longtime friend, thirty nine
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  Speaker 1: years in the business and president a professional Bill Agents
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  Speaker 1: of the US. Katie Cammon, what is going on? Where
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  Speaker 1: is this guy Bowen Turner stumbling around drunk? It's happening
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  Speaker 1: again in Orangeberg, where one of these rate cases took place,
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  Speaker 1: in that same county where Bowen is from, where he
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  Speaker 1: went to school, where he, I guess still is hanging out,
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  Speaker 1: hanging out. I guess that's one way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: What I don't understand, Sarah Ford, is why a bar
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  Speaker 1: would let him. I mean, at first they said, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know if he came walking out of the woods
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  Speaker 1: or from a bar. Well, unless they're serving hard liquor
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  Speaker 1: out behind a pine tree, I guarantee you he came
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  Speaker 1: from a bar, which leads me to the bar. What
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  Speaker 1: bar was this serving an underage rapist. I think there's
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  Speaker 1: some allegations, Nancy, that it was a bar named Ta
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  Speaker 1: tad t as in toy a d as in Delta. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: M but I don't think that that has been confirmed.
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  Speaker 1: But there were some allegations that he spent upwards of
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  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars in that establishment. Who whoa one hundred
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  Speaker 1: dollars at one sitting? That's my understanding, Okay, Carl Staller.
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  Speaker 1: It ain't a crime unless you're under age. So what
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  Speaker 1: bar is selling this underage rapist? One hundred dollars worth
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  Speaker 1: of liquor? How many drinks? Is that mine? More than three?
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  Speaker 1: We can agree on that much, Carl Staller, Yes, ma'am,
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  Speaker 1: I would say so. And that's, uh, that's what probably
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  Speaker 1: are unless it's three very large drinks. Um. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's what do you call him towards or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: So maybe it's something like that. But anyway, nevertheless, like
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  Speaker 1: Sarah Ford said, as I think it's supposedly or allegedly
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  Speaker 1: a bar out on what we call the North Road
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  Speaker 1: in Orangeford County and it's known as Tad's Bar. Um,
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  Speaker 1: that's what is allegedly the establishment he was in and
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  Speaker 1: uh and spent the one hundred dollars plus on I'm
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  Speaker 1: assuming that I would have to assume based on the
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  Speaker 1: reason for as the rest on alcoholic beverage. What do
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  Speaker 1: we know? Back to you, Katie Cammon joining me with
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  Speaker 1: Live five there in Charleston? Was it? Did he spend
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  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars on booze just for himself according to
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  Speaker 1: police that report. Just drink three alcoholic drinks at that
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  Speaker 1: business is all we know for sure. Do you know
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  Speaker 1: what business it is? Is it Tads? Did Tads? What
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  Speaker 1: was listed in the police report? Yes, mister Staller, I
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  Speaker 1: know that Tads is located on the North Road. What
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  Speaker 1: else can you tell me about it? How could they
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  Speaker 1: not know in a town the size of an area
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  Speaker 1: the size of Orangeburg County, much the size of where
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  Speaker 1: I grew up? How could you not know that this
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  Speaker 1: is accused Cereal rapist Bowing Turner and that he's under age. Yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how they would not know that. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: that establishment I've been there on an official capacity for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of different times, but it's got multiple TVs
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  Speaker 1: in there, so as certainly is access the media and
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  Speaker 1: news and that establishment, So I would guess they would
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  Speaker 1: know or be familiar with that subject, mister Bowen Turner.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously based on all his press releases, all the
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  Speaker 1: information that's been released in the media on it, it
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't know that he is not of age to purchase
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  Speaker 1: alcoholic legally in South Carolina, said, I said that that
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  Speaker 1: would be my I don't know how you can miss that,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, hey, it could have been an off
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  Speaker 1: night for him. I don't know, but I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if he presented a false identification or any of that
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  Speaker 1: type situation. But I couldn't speak to that for sure,
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  Speaker 1: but I would dare say, yes, ma'am, they I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure they should have known that he was easily identifiable. Yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: Straight back out to Sarah Ford joining me, the legal
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  Speaker 1: director of South Carolina Victim's Assistant network, Sarah Ford, what
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  Speaker 1: does it take to get somebody arrested in Orangeburg County,
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina. Well, apparently they have to be buying alcohol
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  Speaker 1: under age and walking down the street drunk. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's at least that was the first part
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  Speaker 1: of this. And obviously he was charged with disorderly conduct
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  Speaker 1: and then subsequently slaps with a violation of probation warrant
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  Speaker 1: for which bond was thankfully denied, So he won't be
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  Speaker 1: walking down the street and hopefully anytime soon, as he's
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  Speaker 1: currently housed in the Orangeburg Calhoun Regional Detention Center Time
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  Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace straight out to Topo Padilla. Bill Bondam,
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  Speaker 1: thirty nine years and president of the Professional Bill Agents
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  Speaker 1: of the US TOPO, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of a guy that keeps getting
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  Speaker 1: bail or bond as it is called to different jurisdictions
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  Speaker 1: over and over and over, including on three felony rape
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  Speaker 1: charges on young girls, all similar m O modus opera
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  Speaker 1: endi method of operation and violating it so badly. He's
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  Speaker 1: got over sixty violations on his ankle monitor, going to
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  Speaker 1: play golf, out to restaurants, to other private residences, restaurants
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  Speaker 1: where there's alcohol like this place, even crossing the state line.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you get away with that? Well,
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  Speaker 1: when a judge sets bond, our set by schedule. The
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  Speaker 1: objective there is first and foremost public safety. And you
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  Speaker 1: know no amount of money can guarantee public safety, but
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  Speaker 1: there is amount of money in which it stings. You
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  Speaker 1: have skin in the game and our end since we
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  Speaker 1: have cosigners and deminators on a bond, and you hope
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  Speaker 1: and pray that changes the ways of these people that
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  Speaker 1: are arrested. That's our first objective. Secondly, and as importantly
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  Speaker 1: for the victims of crime, is that these people appear
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  Speaker 1: in court. You know, that is our basically our umber
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  Speaker 1: one objective once bond his set so to ask why
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  Speaker 1: is this guy out again and again and again. I mean, granted,
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  Speaker 1: we are the one of the two countries in this
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  Speaker 1: world that have been surety bond, so we do if
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  Speaker 1: we're people the ability to bail themselves out of jail.
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  Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is, when people like
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  Speaker 1: this are not learning, at some point the justice system,
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  Speaker 1: the judge needs to step in and say that's enough.
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  Speaker 1: And it sounds like this gentleman did that, And I
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  Speaker 1: got to comment about him going to this bar and
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  Speaker 1: doing that one hundred dollars bill. The fact of the
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  Speaker 1: matter is what makes me sick is to think of
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  Speaker 1: he possibly could have been in there buying young ladies
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  Speaker 1: or ladies drinks in an effort to get them into
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  Speaker 1: a conditioning incapacitation to continue his his wrongful activities. So,
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  Speaker 1: po Padilla, that is exactly where I was headed, exactly,
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  Speaker 1: And I want to point out that bow and Turner
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  Speaker 1: gets arrested for disorderly conduct, it's not the end of
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  Speaker 1: the world being staggering around drunk. But when you're a
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  Speaker 1: three time rapist and you're already on probation and you're underaged,
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  Speaker 1: but catch this. He's booked on a DC and then
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  Speaker 1: he is released after posting a two hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: seven dollars bond. He's back in right now on a
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  Speaker 1: violation of his probation, but he was initially released on
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty seven dollars on a DC disorderly conduct.
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  Speaker 1: Back to what Topo Padilla just told us. You can
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  Speaker 1: find him at Greg Padilla bill bonds dot com. I
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  Speaker 1: want to go to a very special guest joining me
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  Speaker 1: in addition to Dallas dollars Father Carl. Chloe Bess is
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  Speaker 1: with me. She is one Bowen Turner's rape victims. And
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  Speaker 1: you know what, Chloe, since you and I first talked,
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  Speaker 1: I thought about you a lot, and it brings to
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  Speaker 1: mind a serial rape case I prosecuted, and I remember
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  Speaker 1: it like it was yesterday. This law before I had
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  Speaker 1: gotten a job at Court TV. They Court TV were covering.
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  Speaker 1: Wanted to cover a serial rape case they had already
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  Speaker 1: covered gabble of gabble and murder case. I tried, and
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  Speaker 1: they approached me about covering the rape case, and I
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  Speaker 1: immediately said, no, no cameras in the courtroom. The rape
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  Speaker 1: victims do not want to be on camera for your viewers. Later,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of days later, I told the rape victims
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  Speaker 1: that Court TV was interested in caring about their case
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  Speaker 1: and I had turned them down. And the rape victims
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  Speaker 1: and I remember it just like it was yesterday, said well,
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  Speaker 1: why we didn't do anything wrong. We don't care if
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  Speaker 1: people know it's us he's the one that did something wrong. Well,
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  Speaker 1: and sure enough I call a Court TV back. They
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  Speaker 1: did cover the case, gavel to gavel, there was conviction.
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  Speaker 1: Let me add, but Chloe best. To this day, rape
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  Speaker 1: victims very often do not speak out. And I am
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  Speaker 1: so grateful for you, Chloe, And I'm so grateful for you,
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  Speaker 1: mister Staller speaking on Dallas's behalf. Chloe, when you first
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  Speaker 1: learned that bow and Turner is out staggering around drunk,
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  Speaker 1: and I think he was drunk the night he raped you,
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  Speaker 1: what went through your mind? I was really shocked. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I figured it was only going to be a
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  Speaker 1: matter of time before he messed up again or did something,
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  Speaker 1: because he obviously can't learn from his mistakes or take
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  Speaker 1: any responsibility for his action. So, like I said, it
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  Speaker 1: was only a matter of time. I just couldn't believe
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  Speaker 1: it was so soon. But I'm glad that he was
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  Speaker 1: denied bond and it just validated the points that we're
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  Speaker 1: trying to make. Accused serial rapist bow and Turner arrested again.
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  Speaker 1: Stumbling Through is South Carolina hometown. Stinkin and I mean
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  Speaker 1: stinkin drunk. Now he was given a two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty seven dollars bond to Topeopadala Bill bondsman. A two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven dollars bond, I've never heard of that.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you get that number? They let him out? Initially, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you have to skin in the game. A
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty seven dollars shirty bond costs a
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  Speaker 1: family or indoor a defendant about fifty dollars, and then
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  Speaker 1: you have to look at the accountability aspect of it.
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  Speaker 1: Is a bondsman going to go out if this person
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  Speaker 1: does fail to appear in court and search for them
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  Speaker 1: so they don't lose two hundred and fifty seven dollars.
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  Speaker 1: There has to be skin in the game, and we
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  Speaker 1: have to be real with this. I don't call for
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  Speaker 1: a twenty five thousand more bond, but two hundred fifty
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  Speaker 1: seven dollars is a slap in the face to the
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  Speaker 1: society that had to put up with this disordering conduct
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  Speaker 1: and the danger could cause the community. I was more.
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  Speaker 1: I'm more worried about how it makes the rape victims
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  Speaker 1: feel to see him staggering around town on probation, and
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  Speaker 1: alcohol and drugs are disallowed when you are on probation,
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  Speaker 1: So that's a probation violation right there. I mean, Chloe,
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  Speaker 1: it just seems as if none of the rules apply
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  Speaker 1: to Bow and Turner, right, you know, Sarah Ford, Legal director,
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina Victim Assistant Network. Two hundred and fifty seven
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  Speaker 1: dollars bond on a three time rapist. It's my understanding, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: that that is the max that a magistrate can give
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  Speaker 1: on a public just early conduct in South Carolina. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a little bit troubling considering his past history. But thankfully, well,
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  Speaker 1: why wouldn't they hold him on a probation violation. They
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  Speaker 1: attempted to do that. I believe that that's what they
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  Speaker 1: tried to do that morning, and a hope was placed
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  Speaker 1: on him, and that's why he was actually held. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very grateful that probation was able to get there
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  Speaker 1: as quickly as possible, because a lot of times a
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  Speaker 1: defendant is given a bond like that two hundred fifty
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  Speaker 1: seven dollars, they're released and then probation has to go
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  Speaker 1: hunting for them. So I was grateful that it all
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  Speaker 1: happened relatively quickly and that bond was finally denied and
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  Speaker 1: at least we know where he's at. Well. Chloe bass
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  Speaker 1: one Bow in Turner's rate victim said it best. She said,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think it'd be long before he quote did
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  Speaker 1: something else, cause, as you know, when you don't know
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  Speaker 1: a horse, look at his track, right herd take a
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  Speaker 1: list an hour cut forward WCSC. According to court documents,
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  Speaker 1: turners GPS monitor showed he visited dozens of different places,
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  Speaker 1: including nineteen trips to golf courses, as well as outings
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  Speaker 1: to restaurants, sporting good stores, and even a car dealership.
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  Speaker 1: Documents say the GPS monitor showed him taking trips to
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  Speaker 1: Columbia Granted and even crossing state lines to Brunswick, Georgia. Chloe,
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  Speaker 1: her family and Dallas's family all say Moore should have
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  Speaker 1: been done as soon as it was discovered that Turner
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  Speaker 1: had violated bond. As court documents state law enforcement has
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  Speaker 1: the authority to take him into custody if he violates
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  Speaker 1: his bond. We have multiple bond violations. He was out
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  Speaker 1: bond bond when this happened to Chloe. So it's just
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  Speaker 1: like he just keeps getting pass after pass after pass.
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  Speaker 1: Got a question for you, mister Staller. We have been
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  Speaker 1: told that his family bow and Turner's family has actually
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  Speaker 1: contacted parents the rape victims asking them to stop speaking
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  Speaker 1: publicly because it was quote dampening his bright future. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know what anything about that? Yes, ma'am, I can
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  Speaker 1: speak to that. And let me clear that up a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Um. They there was someone a person called
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  Speaker 1: my wife, an individual called my wife and spend two
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  Speaker 1: or three weeks ago now um on a Wednesday night,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, they were asking they identified themselves as by
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  Speaker 1: the name of Adam Um and they called him a
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  Speaker 1: blocked number. And that was the conversation that was took
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  Speaker 1: place that when they said, you know, listen, we understand
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  Speaker 1: that that and Boe sorry and he's he's he's very
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  Speaker 1: sorry for what happened to Dallas and what he did
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  Speaker 1: to Dallas and that type of thing he was going
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  Speaker 1: with that this individual went on and on about that,
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  Speaker 1: and then of course my wife responded and that during
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  Speaker 1: that conversation, that individual Adam stated that um Bowen Turner
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  Speaker 1: has a very bright future and um, it would be
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  Speaker 1: brighter and it would be more likely to be successful
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  Speaker 1: if we were to lay off of him, so to speak,
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  Speaker 1: and um not bring so much attention to the case
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: and that type of situation. So my wife responded by saying, well,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you know, our daughter Dallas out a very bright future
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: as well, um, and she she'll never get a chance
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: to realize that that bright future that she certainly had
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the potential of having. And they really didn't respond to that.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: They just went back into their same statement about he
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: was sorry, but but we really needed to lay off
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: of him. And then approximately two or three days later,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I received on my phone a unblocked number from a
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Turner, who is um Bowen's Mother's name is Jennifer Turner.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: That's what it came up on my telephone. I missed
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: that first call completely hadn't and then I saw where
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I missed a call from that number and h then
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: again about an hour later. I was around ten thirty
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: on Saturday morning. Then about an hour later my phone
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: rang again and it showed up under Jennifer Turner. Um.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: And you know, that's a fairly com common name and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it could be coincidental, But in light of all the circumstances,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's a coincidence. But we may contact.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I did not take a call. We made contact with
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Sarah Ford, our turney in, and she asked us to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: block the numbers and um, you know, make sure that
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: we didn't didn't have any contact. But yes, now that
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: was that was our family that was made some contact
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: by a gentleman name, our individual named themselves as Adam,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and then two attempts by a Jennifer Turner name that
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: showed up on my caller ID. Yes, ma'am, I'm going
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: to get to the blasphemy of what you just said
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and reported. But first, Sarah Ford legal thought I would
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: be very curious to find out. And this is in
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the case of Dallas Staller, which apparently some people think
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it's unprosecutable because she has passed away. That's bs right there. Okay,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you can prove a case without the victim of the
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: stand and one way you can do it is through
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: statements of the defendant. Okay, statements like telling people such
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: as his parents, I'm sorry for what I did to Dallas. Okay,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: because you're just hearing Carl Staller's stating the first Adam
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: not my real name, that called Dallas's mother said he's sorry,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: he's sorry for what he did to Dallas. I think
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: that phone call needs to be traced to find out
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: who Adam is and how does Adam know the bowing
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Turner's sorry for what he did a rape Dallas starar.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: That is an admission. And there is no parent child
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: privilege like attorney client or priest parishioner privilege. There's no
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: such thing like a husband or wife privilege that doesn't
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: exist between mother, father and child. So if he exhibited, uh,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: which I doubt pretty seriously, but could this be one
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: of his relatives that he has spoken to saying he's
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: sorry for what he did to Dallas? Now quit talking
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: about him? What about that? It's really wild? Um, you
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: know I think that you know, just having quite frankly,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the nerve to reach out to the Stolar family, who has.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: They've been through so much, they lost their daughter six
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: months ago, and to make that call is just astounding
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to me. But can we use it as evident, Sarah?
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Because I believe we can. I think that it's it's possible.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: You know, certainly we did report that and reported the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: calls from Bowen's mother, Jennifer Turner. Um, we did final
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: report on that. We also filed emotion to expand the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: permanent restraining order in that case. But unfortunately, see, you know,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: we haven't heard from the solicitor. Who is the solicitor?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Who's the solicitor? Rumblings it was David Miller, it's the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Second Circuit soliciers. Can you get his phone number an
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: email place? David Miller? What is going on there? And
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I want to remind everybody and Chloe best you'll know
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: this better than I I do. Bowen Turner's parents didn't
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: His father work at the District Attorney's office on the edge.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: He did still work there, Miss Nancy, I can speak
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to that. Good tell me no, but he does not.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: He is no longer employed by the First Judicial Circuit
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Solicitor's office. He worked in that First Judicial Circuit Solicitor's
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: office as an investigator. So and after the incident that
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it took place with cod Best, he did resign the
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: position as an investigator for that office. Second Judicial Circuit
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Solicitor's office. David Miller is the deputy's solicitor. He is handling.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: He was the one that was supposedly handling all these cases.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: And if I can, if it's okay for me to
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: make this comment, his representations at Joe. But but now
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: there was no affiliation between Walt Turner and that office
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: as far as David Miller's connection that he was in
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a whole different circuit. But no, matam, he is no
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: longer part of that. Katie Camon joining me from Live
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: five News on this from the very beginning, Katie Bowen.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Turner's lawyer, last name is it Hutto, Yes, Brad Hutto,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: who is a South Carolina State Senator. Not just a
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: South Carolina State Senator. He is the ranking Democrat in
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: South Carolina Senate State Senate. Is that right? I believe
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that is correct? High profile lawyer and as a matter
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: of fact, him having that position in South Carolina State
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Senate gives him an opportunity to weigh in on who
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and who is not named judge is and that true,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Sarah Ford, it is. It is absolutely true. Our legislature
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: is one of the only states that Virginia's the only
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: other one where a legislature elect judges. Karen Stark, I'm
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: telling you, I don't know what's going on in Orangeburg County,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: South Carolina. You got a three time rapists, you know what,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Karen hold On. I want you to hear Chloe Bess,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Karen Stark, I want you to hear her, because me
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: ranting about this guy's DC disorderly conduct doesn't mean a
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: thing until you hear Chloe Bess and you hear mister
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Staller's story. Chloe, what happened to you? I mean, unfortunately,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I was taken advantage of in the worst way possible.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I know that. I know that you were at a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: party and you were with your brother and some friends,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: and your brother and the friend left, I think, to
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: go get food, and in that entrm you decided you
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: wanted to leave. You step outside the house party to
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: call your brother to tell him come and get me.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting outside, and that is when you are tackled
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: by Bowing Turner, dragged between a car and a tree
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: line where no one could see you, and you were raped.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: That's the way I recall from what you told me.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: And then I went home distraught. But first you went
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: inside and you told me that you looked in the
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: mirror and it didn't even seem like you. Yes, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: not at all. When you think back on that moment, Chloe,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: what goes through your mind. It's a lot of emotions
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: when I think about that, because it was very It
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: was probably one of the weirdest things, because like I said,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: it was like I wasn't even looking at myself, and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: so I just didn't know how to feel. And so
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: when I look back on it, I can feel all
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: of the you know, the sadness, the how scared I was,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: all of that in the moment. I couldn't really feel
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that though, because I was supposed shocked. Time stories with
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Missus Staller. I know, I hate when people
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: just out of the blue asked me about my fiancee's murder.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: If I bring it up, I don't feel as bad
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: about it. But when somebody else brings it up, it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: just like throwing cold water in my face. I could
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: be having a perfectly fine day, and then I have
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to think about him getting shot five times in the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: face and the head in the back. Would you please
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: tell the story about Dallas, because me going on and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: on and on about Bow and Turner being drunken disorderly,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: nobody cares. They have to know why it's so significant
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: he's walking free again. Yes, ma'am, I'll be happy to
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: speak about it. Yes, ma'am. My daughter Dallas Stallar went
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: to a party in the Bamber Kenny, which is the
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: next kenny over the south of Orangeburg County, Canada, party
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that night and she was at the party and at
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: some point during the night she went outside and went
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to From what I remember and what I was told
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: is she went outside to attempt to use the bathroom
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: in a wooded area, and she was and I would
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: say this this way, later identified her attacker, her rapist,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: as the one Turner and she was followed into the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: woodline with by this gentleman and he this young man.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, so the gentleman he followed by this young
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: man and uh and was raped in the woods by him,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and of course brought eventually got home to our house
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: where we found out she had been assaulted and she
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: had meant numerous wounds on her body, bruises and u S,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: triangulation marks on her neck, UM, just a plethora of
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: different injuries pretty much over our whole body. She was
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: transported to our local hospital, regional medical center, and she
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: was at what point we were told she by her
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: and what she told medical personnel that she had been
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: raped by UM what turned out to be this subject,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: mister Boe Turner at that party and became a that
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: started a chain of events that UM were obviously, as
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: most people know now was life changing for her and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: us as a family. And ultimately three and a half
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: years later, UM ended up in her deciding to it
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: was morning she can handle and took her life because
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: she was bullied and she was made out to be
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: a liar, and so many of these so called important
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: people that made that made that so and there children
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: and that type of thing. So that's where we are today, ma'am.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: That's why this bone's reoffending on another chart on what
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: we call the misdemeanor here in South Carolina, on this
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: public disorderly conduct is significant. But I will say this
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: not surprising to me because he doesn't have any regard
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: for the law, period and all the way and honestly,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: all the law taught him that day and that hire
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: for Choye's case was that hey man, you you you
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: know the right people, You got the money, you can
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: get out of anything and um, and he basically did that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: And so why does he have any Why in the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: world would he have any regard for the law? I mean,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I don't care about that, you know, underage drinking, that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Um, that's a law. I want the law
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: and apply to me. Um raping girls? That's why does
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: that matter? The law and apply to me? And guess
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: what guess guess have taught us. Guessn't taught him that.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Our court system, our court system taught him that. And
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: uh and so there's much to blame for all this
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: as anybody. And uh, thankfully, thankfully we have one judge
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: that was willing to hear it out and say, listen,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: you're you're you're not. I'm gonna get back out on
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: this what turned out to the probation violation point point
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: of it, because you are you've clearly shown that you
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: have no regard for conditions of bond needs nothing to you.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: And hey, you've been on probation of them. But just
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: a month and you've already violated it. But I sat
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: in on that bond hearing and I heard him say,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: he said, well, I don't understand I've made all my
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: court appearances. Well, big deal. You may tell the courterpences appearances.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: But you did what the hell you wanted to do
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: in the eneral, you know, so that make any difference
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: to you. But again, like I said, that solicited David
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Miller and Brad Huddle, all the combination of all that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Judge Markley Denna say, everybody they taught him, they taught him. Well,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: then they taught him to say, you can do anything
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you want to do, and it's okay, it's okay. That's
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the way I see it, mister Staller. The children, my
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: twins just went on a week trip on their class trip,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and I would go in their room. I could hardly
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: stand it. I just totally wanted to divorce my husband
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: because I thought, I, this is the way life is
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: going to be when they go to college. God willing,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I can't take it. Well, I didn't divorce him when
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: they came home. I don't know what's going to happen.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Four years from now. But when you go in Dallas's room,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: how can you stand it? It's extremely difficult. It's extremely difficult,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: a flood of emotion that comes over you, and how
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you can think about it as your I don't look
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: at her as a twenty year old that died way
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: too soon. I still look at her as my little girl.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Karen's dark not just what Chloe is going through. And
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: you know how much guts it takes for her. People
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: keep asking her to tell her story over and over
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and over. It's the worst story of her life. Carl Staller,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: get him to tell Dallas a story over and over.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Sarah Ford, the legal director, is they're just fighting tooth
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: and claw. More than the grief, I think the feeling
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: of helplessness that nobody is doing anything, including Miller. By
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: the way, his number is eight zero three six four
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: two one five five seven repeat eight o three six
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: four two one five five seven. You don't like the
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: way the case is being handled, call him, let him know,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: do something. Don't just talk about it or think about
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: it or simmer about it. Do something. I mean that
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: feeling of helplessness, Karen, And that's what I've heard from
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: rape victims ever since I started prosecuting crimes, that feeling
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: that there's nothing you can do, the thing you can do, Nancy,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: good for you for giving out that phone number, and
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: absolutely a feeling of helplessness. Chloe, I am so so
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: sorry what you've felt, that feeling of you don't recognize
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: yourself as disassociation, meaning you had to somehow cope, and
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: the only way that you could cope with that situation
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: was to remove yourself from it unconsciously. And that is
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: normal response to a horrific, tragic situation. And good for you.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: You're so brave, both of you. The dad, Chloe, because
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: this is a horrendous situation. This guy was clearly going
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: to go on and continue doing it. It's who he is.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: He's above the law, and then the law comes along
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and shows him that he's right. He could do whatever
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: he wants to do, and it's outrageous that that was allowed.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I hope you guys are able to talk to people
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: and get out and keep talking to the public and
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: let them know what this is like, and we have
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: to put a stop to it, somehow get people like
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: this not to get for However, I know that Chloe
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: case went forward and Bow and Turner got straight probation.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I know that Dallas's case was dropped because Dallas passed away.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I know that there is a juvenile victim case out there.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: What has become of the juvenile case? Do you know?
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Sarah Ford? Yes, Actually, when I got involved with these cases,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I asked the SORCER's office till we opened her case
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: as South CARONLA Law Enforcement Division, to reopen it. Sled did,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: But we honestly have m ever gotten an answer. That's
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: actually a good thing. That's a good thing, Sarah Ford,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: because that means there's still a rate case pending against
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Bow and Turner if in fact they haven't resolved it
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: behind the victim's back. Well, it's my understanding that you know,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: they did not want to have their conversations with them.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: You know, there were two pending cases. This would have
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: been a third case that was opened closed. We asked
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: it to be reopened, and you know, I was told,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: you know, we don't want to make it look like
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: we're going after this kid, which was obviously very problematic
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: just that mentality. So you know, I think that while
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I would love to see Dallas's case reopened, I would
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: love to see this first case get the appropriate attention
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: that it deserves. I don't know that that's going to happen,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: but I'm hopeful. I really am. So. There are two
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: cases Chloe's cases resolved. Two others exist and can be
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: reopened again. The number for the prosecutor eight zero three six, four, two, one,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: five five seven. If he can't do his job, he
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: needs to be voted out. Real simple. We wait as
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: just unfalls. Nancy Grace Crime story signing up, Goodbye Friend,