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Ranking The 10 NBA Teams With The Brightest Future · Small Ball with Kenny Beecham

0:00
SPEAKER_02: Going back to the Nick Friedale tweet, the NBA has got to be absolutely praying the Lakers and the Knicks win tonight, right?
0:06
SPEAKER_02: The NBA, Adam Silver, might have made a call.
0:08
SPEAKER_02: He might have made a call to the referees and say, hold on, hold on, hold on.
0:12
SPEAKER_02: Give that boy that timeout.
0:19
SPEAKER_02: Welcome, welcome, welcome back to the Kenny Beach and Podcast, y'all.
0:23
SPEAKER_02: Today, I'm doing something a little bit different, man.
0:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm stepping outside of my comfort zone specifically for you.
0:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, I've been dilly dabbling, trying to figure out what works, what doesn't work for the Kenny Beach and Podcast.
0:36
SPEAKER_02: And I figured the thing that's gonna resonate the most is when I get uncomfortable.
0:43
SPEAKER_02: And the most uncomfortable I can get is trying to rank the futures of NBA teams.
0:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Today I decided to look at the 30 teams that are across the association as of 2023 and try to figure out in the next three to five years who has the best outlook.
1:02
SPEAKER_02: Again, that is something I normally wouldn't do, but I like to look at other people's rankings, react to other people's rankings, but I don't normally step out of my comfort zone to do it.
1:11
SPEAKER_02: Today is the day.
1:12
SPEAKER_02: We also got to talk about the end season tournament because we are down to our last four teams.
1:16
SPEAKER_02: Somebody soon will be crowned the inaugural, and still don't know if I ever pronounced that word right, NBA Cup champions.
1:24
SPEAKER_02: As Giannis said in his postgame interview, the rich will get richer because a lot of people are taking home half a million dollars each.
1:31
SPEAKER_02: We got to talk about the things that have worked, that haven't worked.
1:34
SPEAKER_02: I also got my favorite segment.
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SPEAKER_02: As y'all know, hashtag askkb, where you go onto X or or Twitter, go in the comment section of these episodes and ask a question with the hashtag askkb.
1:45
SPEAKER_02: And I try my hardest to pick some of the best or my favorite ones every single episode.
1:50
SPEAKER_02: And we also got some players that are unhappy with their roles.
1:55
SPEAKER_02: And we got to talk about what that means for certain teams.
1:58
SPEAKER_02: I want to remind you that we are on our quest to become the number one basketball podcast in the world.
2:03
SPEAKER_02: And you know what?
2:04
SPEAKER_02: We took a big step back.
2:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:06
SPEAKER_02: That episode or that week of no episodes really took us down the standings.
2:11
SPEAKER_02: You know, I think at one point we were number six.
2:13
SPEAKER_02: Before I got sick, before Thanksgiving, we were at number six or number seven on the charts.
2:17
SPEAKER_02: So do you go that long without an episode?
2:19
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the numbers are the numbers.
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SPEAKER_02: We dropped down to the mid-20s.
2:22
SPEAKER_02: And again, mid-20s is crazy when you think about how many podcasts there are, but like, once they go, so I need you to leave a like, subscribe, go over to Spotify, go over to Apple, pre-download those episodes, listen to them if you if you want.
2:34
SPEAKER_02: I also want to say I appreciate all the support on the Nas Reed episode that we dropped a couple days ago.
2:39
SPEAKER_02: If you have not watched that episode, I really do recommend it.
2:41
SPEAKER_02: We didn't have them for very long, but I feel as though we got them to smile a little bit, had a little bit of fun.
2:47
SPEAKER_02: But I do recognize the criticism on that was like, hey, Kenny, you only had Nas Reed on the show for 13 minutes and 42 seconds.
2:56
SPEAKER_02: Because one of y'all actually counted it.
2:58
SPEAKER_02: Or I guess you probably just did some math.
3:00
SPEAKER_02: Either way, I promise you that the next guest we get, which is already in pencil, I say in pencil because their NBA players are traveling this and that.
3:07
SPEAKER_02: I can't say for sure.
3:08
SPEAKER_02: But I promise that when that person player comes on, it will be a full-length, complete uh interview.
3:14
SPEAKER_02: Because I, yeah, there were so many things I wanted to talk to Nas about, but because of his time restraint and because he was in a car and everything, I couldn't really get into it like that.
3:23
SPEAKER_02: The next guy, I will, all right?
3:25
SPEAKER_02: I think we have to start off talking about the end season tournament.
3:30
SPEAKER_02: Because we did get down to our last eight teams.
3:32
SPEAKER_02: It was the first knockout round, and all of the games brought their own different things.
3:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't really want to go too far in the past and talk about games from four or five days ago, but I will like kind of preview the final two games, I guess two of the final three games, because you do got to get the championship.
3:49
SPEAKER_02: So on the Eastern Conference side, we have the Indiana Pacers versus the Milwaukee Bucks.
3:54
SPEAKER_02: This is so interesting because uh there was a tweet by Nick Friedale um that went, I won't even say viral because virality doesn't really happen in NBA Twitter unless it's like here's some highlights or here's a um a deep dive into what Ime Yudoka said about LeBron James.
4:10
SPEAKER_02: But like for as as viral as it can get in like the little bubble that is NBA super nerds, Nick Friedale said the NBA has got to be absolutely praying the Lakers and the Knicks win tonight.
4:22
SPEAKER_02: Who is gonna watch, let alone pay to see the Pacers and the Bucs play at 2 p.m.
4:27
SPEAKER_02: or 2 Pacific time?
4:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, on Thursday afternoon in Vegas.
4:32
SPEAKER_02: And Nick Friedale got absolutely cooked for this.
4:34
SPEAKER_02: And Nick, hey, listen, I've been there before.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I didn't got cooked on Twitter multiple times, you know, it's just part of the game.
4:41
SPEAKER_02: But this is not necessarily talking about Nick specifically, but overarching talking about like the idea of the way the NBA markets their their teams and their players.
4:50
SPEAKER_02: Now, I do believe that the NBA is in a league of its own when you compare it to like the MLB or the NFL, in a sense that they do a very good job of marketing the players, and because of that, individual people at home kind of have the attachment to LeBron, Kevin O'Ranch, Steph Curry.
5:05
SPEAKER_02: They can't necessarily say that they're a Lakers fan or their Suns fan or a Warriors fan, but they really do love Steph Curry and all these other players.
5:13
SPEAKER_02: So that's that's an advantage that the NBA has.
5:16
SPEAKER_02: But the downside to all of this is this idea and sentiment that Nick is putting out, where like when you do have some smaller market teams playing against each other, specifically like a team like the Indiana Pacers, who are a young, fun team that just beat the Boston Celtics, because the way you market your team, your league, that team gets kind of left in the dust to the casual NBA fan, right?
5:38
SPEAKER_02: The other night against the Boston Celtics was the first time we seen the Indiana Pacers play on national TV in the Tarys Halliburton era.
5:46
SPEAKER_02: And that feels inexcusable.
5:48
SPEAKER_02: Not in the sense that Tarryce Halliburton is a super duper star player just yet, but when you talk about futures of the NBA trying to get the like usher in the next generation as Braun, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, even though they feel like they're gonna play forever, as they start to slow down and get out the league, it is imperative that we do market these younger players and these smaller market teams.
6:10
SPEAKER_02: So this idea that Nick brings out to the table, also it is an L on his part, but I think there is some truth to this where the NBA is like, man, we would definitely rather have one of the bigger market teams be there.
6:22
SPEAKER_02: Even though I would 100% watch the Bucs over watching the Knicks.
6:26
SPEAKER_02: I was happy the Bucs won this game.
6:27
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
6:28
SPEAKER_02: Because Pacers versus Bucks in itself is a game that I think I think the world will probably enjoy more because these are two of the what top top five offenses in basketball.
6:37
SPEAKER_02: But I do, again, like I said, I think that um the in-season tournament in it in itself, right?
6:43
SPEAKER_02: The in-season tournament in itself is about money at the end of the day, right?
6:47
SPEAKER_02: It's about keeping people engaged early in the season, but it's it's no coincidence that the in-season tournament sprung upon us the year before the TV deal was over.
6:55
SPEAKER_02: It's no coincidence that the NBA is kind of looking at what the MLB did, giving the rights to specific games to Apple TV, or looking at what the NFL did, giving some rights to Amazon and this and that, and say, hey, what if we create this whole different tournament that's that like we think can be successful, and then when this new TV deal is up, we can maybe have Amazon exclusively get the end-season tournament, or have um Netflix Netflix that they want in on basketball.
7:21
SPEAKER_02: I don't even know how that would work, but I also didn't understand how Amazon would work.
7:25
SPEAKER_02: So it is no coincidence that it is about money at the end of the day.
7:28
SPEAKER_02: So Nick, again, as I I also dunked on them too.
7:32
SPEAKER_02: My apologies.
7:34
SPEAKER_02: But I think there is a little bit of truth to this in the sense that they're trying to get the highest ratings possible, the most so tickets possible because this is the inaugural one.
7:44
SPEAKER_02: Am I saying that right?
7:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, and they also want to sell it in about a year's time.
7:50
SPEAKER_02: Also, I do just hate the fact that this is kind of the way some people live their NBA fandom, where they are looking at like the numbers of like the people watching instead of just enjoying basketball.
8:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's corny.
8:05
SPEAKER_02: Um, either way, let's get back to Pacers versus Bucks because I'm so so very excited about this game.
8:12
SPEAKER_02: Because the Indiana Pacers, the biggest question mark about the Pacers all year long is like, can they get stops when it matters the most?
8:19
SPEAKER_02: There's no question this is a team that is gonna run, they're gonna gun, they have a system, and his name is his name is Tyrese Halliburn.
8:26
SPEAKER_02: But then again, they had a game against the Miami Heat last week, right?
8:30
SPEAKER_02: This is before their game against the Boston Celtics.
8:33
SPEAKER_02: Tyrese Halliburne is out with a respiratory infection and a knee thing, whatever.
8:38
SPEAKER_02: And they go against the Miami Heat.
8:39
SPEAKER_02: And I didn't watch the game because I kind of assume, based on the history of when Tyrese Halliburn was out for games, the Pacers suck.
8:48
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the last time they played against the Boston Celtics before the end season tournament, they ended up losing by 50 without Tyrese.
8:53
SPEAKER_02: If you look at their record post-all-star last year, when Tyrese missed a significant amount of time, they were awful.
8:58
SPEAKER_02: And then in this game against the Miami Heat, the system kind of traveled.
9:02
SPEAKER_02: TJ McConnell had like 20 and 10 off the bench.
9:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, hold on.
9:06
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's not just I can't, I never want to give the entire team success credit to one player, but like there are players across the association that we talk about being the system.
9:14
SPEAKER_02: Tyrese had been has been that, but maybe it's a little bit deeper than that, which is which is kind of cool.
9:20
SPEAKER_02: The biggest question around them was can they get stops?
9:24
SPEAKER_02: In this game against the the Boston Celtics, again, I don't want to reopen that game up because it's been a couple days now.
9:30
SPEAKER_02: Um the crowd was electric, but when it mattered the most, they were able to get stops.
9:35
SPEAKER_02: Some of that was just poor shooting from Boston, where if you look at the shot quality of the Boston Celtics, it was relatively high.
9:41
SPEAKER_02: It's not like the Indiana Pacers forced them to seven straight turnovers on uh 24-second violations.
9:47
SPEAKER_02: Like they got quality looks for the most part, but the Pacers also got the timely stops.
9:52
SPEAKER_02: And and this was gonna kind of turn into a different conversation for me, where I don't know, and this is I'm just spitballing at this point.
10:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if we're about to see a shift and what is considered to be a really good team, right?
10:07
SPEAKER_02: Now, the Pacers, I think they're still a ways away.
10:09
SPEAKER_02: I'm not looking at the Pacers and saying, hey, that's a championship contender.
10:11
SPEAKER_02: Hell, they got to make the playoffs for the first time before we start to do any of that.
10:15
SPEAKER_02: But if you look at like last year's Denver Nuggets, who sat around league average defensively, but was a really good offense, that has historically not been a recipe to win a championship, right?
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SPEAKER_02: To really even compete at the highest level.
10:28
SPEAKER_02: For the most part, throughout the history of hoops, it's like we got to have top 10 on both sides.
10:32
SPEAKER_02: And if we don't have top 10 on both sides, for the most part, we're gonna lose a seven-game series at one point.
10:37
SPEAKER_02: The Denver Nuggets, I don't know if they're an outlier or they are the shift in the meta.
10:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
10:43
SPEAKER_02: Only time will tell.
10:44
SPEAKER_02: We gotta see who this year's champion is, right?
10:46
SPEAKER_02: I still did the Boston Celtics are the favorite or my favorite to win the championship, and they're a team that sits as top 10 in offense and defense.
10:53
SPEAKER_02: But maybe my thinking is just a little bit outdated.
10:55
SPEAKER_02: I don't really know.
10:56
SPEAKER_02: Time will tell.
10:56
SPEAKER_02: Um, but them being able to sit down and get stops when it mattered the most made me excited because this is a team that when you talk about their offensive firepower, they're fun to watch.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: But the opposite side of that, as a guy that loves defense, that makes it horrible at times.
11:11
SPEAKER_02: But when you see them in games and able to really buckle down, I love it.
11:15
SPEAKER_02: We also saw the same thing about the Bucs.
11:17
SPEAKER_02: Now, the Bucs shot historically well against the New York Knicks.
11:20
SPEAKER_02: Like they hit a crazy amount of three-pointers, like 60% three-point shooting.
11:24
SPEAKER_02: But the one thing about the Bucs, like the defense has always been a question this season, right?
11:27
SPEAKER_02: Will they be able to get stops in the matters?
11:30
SPEAKER_02: So on and so forth.
11:31
SPEAKER_02: The answer is yes.
11:33
SPEAKER_02: Um, if you look at um their defense in the last two weeks, it's at 16th, just looking at the last two weeks' sample size, kind of get rid of the first three weeks that they were trying to cohesively get together.
11:44
SPEAKER_02: It's got to about 16th.
11:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's that's eerily similar to what the the Denver Nuggets was doing last season, and they have one of the top offenses in basketball, but specifically, because I think this is where it matters the most.
11:55
SPEAKER_02: Like we can look all we want at the overall um defensive rating, offensive rating, so on and so forth.
12:01
SPEAKER_02: We sometimes should probably just look at hey, fourth quarters, clutch moments.
12:08
SPEAKER_02: Are they getting the stops there?
12:09
SPEAKER_02: You know, and the Bucs, right now, the answer is yes.
12:13
SPEAKER_02: When it comes to clutch defense, first of all, they have the best clutch record in all of basketball.
12:16
SPEAKER_02: They have they think they're I think they're nine and one.
12:19
SPEAKER_02: Um, again, this Knicks game doesn't count as clutch, but just in just in general, just think about in general, the the overarching, the umbrella of the uh the Milwaukee Bucks for the future.
12:28
SPEAKER_02: They have the second best clutch defensive rating at a 97.5.
12:34
SPEAKER_02: They are completely shutting the faucet off when it matters the most.
12:37
SPEAKER_02: And on the flip side of that, they have Damian Lillard, who we talked about last week, is maybe the clutch player of the league of the year so far.
12:45
SPEAKER_02: That that's 97.5 defensive rating is second in basketball when it comes to the clutch.
12:52
SPEAKER_02: And the number one team is the team on the other side of the bracket, which is gonna be the LA Lakers.
12:57
SPEAKER_02: So uh I think this is gonna be a very fun game.
12:59
SPEAKER_02: As of right now, according to FanDuel Sports Book, the Bucs are a four and a half point favorite with a minus 200 on the money line.
13:05
SPEAKER_02: The the over-underspread is insane.
13:07
SPEAKER_02: Again, we're talking about two of the best offense in basketball and two teams that, again, has the history of maybe not being great defensively.
13:14
SPEAKER_02: I am extremely, extremely interested in this one.
13:17
SPEAKER_02: Maybe is it do I like this matchup more than the Western Conference one?
13:22
SPEAKER_02: I might have to say yes.
13:23
SPEAKER_02: I might have to say yes, man.
13:25
SPEAKER_02: Four and a half point favorites.
13:27
SPEAKER_02: How do I feel about that?
13:28
SPEAKER_02: I think the Bucks should be the favorite, right?
13:30
SPEAKER_02: When you think about the amount of talent that they have, specifically with Giannis and Dame.
13:34
SPEAKER_02: And the last nine games, Dame uh Giannis is averaging 31 points per game, 12 rebounds, seven assists.
13:39
SPEAKER_02: And the last nine games for Damian Lillard, Dame is averaging 27 points per game, about five rebounds and eight assists.
13:45
SPEAKER_02: They're gelling.
13:46
SPEAKER_02: And they're doing it without running a high pick a roll.
13:48
SPEAKER_02: Like much.
13:49
SPEAKER_02: It's happening 11 times a game, I think it might be the number, but they're able to both do their things.
13:55
SPEAKER_02: And when you think about Malik Beasley having a really good year and all of that, like they should be the favorite.
14:01
SPEAKER_02: Four and a half feels like a fair line at this point.
14:04
SPEAKER_02: I would, if if I was out here, I would probably go moneyline versus spread.
14:08
SPEAKER_02: That's where I feel the most comfortable.
14:09
SPEAKER_02: And I would probably say yes to the money line at minus 200.
14:12
SPEAKER_02: Um, that's on FanDuel Sportsbook.
14:14
SPEAKER_02: Let's go to the other side of things: the Pelicans versus the Lakers.
14:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:18
SPEAKER_02: This is what I'm excited about, too.
14:20
SPEAKER_02: If you watch my other podcast, right?
14:22
SPEAKER_02: Uh, because if you didn't know, I have two.
14:23
SPEAKER_02: One by myself and one with the homies.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: The Pelicans, a point of like argument for me and the guys this offseason was the Pelicans.
14:31
SPEAKER_02: There were two teams going into this year that I was super high on, kind of taking a leap of faith at the end of the day.
14:36
SPEAKER_02: Um, the Pelicans was my Western Conference team and the Atlanta Hawks were my Eastern Conference team.
14:41
SPEAKER_02: I'm missing on the Eastern Conference one.
14:43
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I just I just watched the ending of Brooklyn Nets versus Atlanta Hawks.
14:47
SPEAKER_02: Or I guess I watched the majority of the game, not just the ending.
14:49
SPEAKER_02: It's still a rough watch.
14:50
SPEAKER_02: They're they're teeting around 500.
14:52
SPEAKER_02: Hell, this episode was at one point gonna be um about being in the middle and the Atlanta Hawks are gonna be a big part of it, but we might have to save that for the future.
15:00
SPEAKER_02: The Pelicans were the team out west that I felt uber confidence in.
15:04
SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, this is a team that is as talented as majority of teams across the association.
15:10
SPEAKER_02: I understand the Zion injury stuff is a big deal.
15:13
SPEAKER_02: I understand the off-the-court Zion stuff is a big deal.
15:17
SPEAKER_02: I understood that Trey Murphy had already got injured.
15:19
SPEAKER_02: Jose Alvarado had already got injured.
15:21
SPEAKER_02: This is a team that has always had some significant injury.
15:25
SPEAKER_02: Well, as of today, everybody's cool.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: And we got basically two games to that, right?
15:30
SPEAKER_02: They played against the San Antonio Spurs, smoked them.
15:33
SPEAKER_02: Um, that was without Zion having a good game.
15:35
SPEAKER_02: And then they went against the Bulls.
15:36
SPEAKER_02: There was no Trey Murphy, there was no CJ.
15:38
SPEAKER_02: That one don't count.
15:38
SPEAKER_02: But when they're fully healthy, they're 2-0.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: And both of these games, we haven't needed, we haven't needed Zion to be Zion Zion.
15:47
SPEAKER_02: In the in-season tournament game, he was like, hey, Brandon Ingram, we take, see you taking some tough shots, playmaking, we're gonna let you do your part.
15:53
SPEAKER_02: The fun thing about the Pelicans right now is because everybody is healthy, we finally get to see Willie Green be able to experiment with lineups where in the in-season tournament game, we saw a lot of Zion at the five.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: First game back from Tray Murphy III against the Spurs.
16:07
SPEAKER_02: We saw a lot of Zion at the five.
16:09
SPEAKER_02: And has it looked pretty?
16:10
SPEAKER_02: Has it looked amazing?
16:10
SPEAKER_02: Offensively, I enjoyed it.
16:12
SPEAKER_02: Maybe less on the other side.
16:14
SPEAKER_02: But those are the type of things they can really experiment with.
16:17
SPEAKER_02: I was a little bit sad though, but because they are completely healthy, my guy Jordan Hawkins didn't get no PT.
16:24
SPEAKER_02: I was so sad.
16:25
SPEAKER_02: I was so sad.
16:25
SPEAKER_02: He had been a guy that was been, you know, providing three-point shooting, some spacing for the Pelicans.
16:30
SPEAKER_02: But now, when you think about, I mean, right now they're still missing Larry Nance Jr., but Dyson Daniels, CJ, Herb Jones, Jose Alvarado, there's just a lot of guards.
16:39
SPEAKER_02: And when J.
16:40
SPEAKER_02: Hawk did play, other teams saw him as a small framed guard, and they went at him a bunch.
16:46
SPEAKER_02: There was no hiding him.
16:47
SPEAKER_02: And now I guess he's gonna get some DMPs as these other players are uh more trustworthy defensively.
16:54
SPEAKER_02: Like the Herb Jones, Dyson Daniels backcourt, and I know it started a bunch before CJ got back.
17:01
SPEAKER_02: That lineup, that backcourt is just so ridiculous, right?
17:04
SPEAKER_02: I think the the Boston Celtics have the crown for the best defensive backcourt with Derek White and Cameron, Derek White and Drew Holiday.
17:12
SPEAKER_02: But like, this is off top of dome.
17:14
SPEAKER_02: I ain't even thought about this much until I'm bringing it up at this moment.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: When they were starting, Herb and Dyson, they gotta be.
17:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna I'm gonna play it safe.
17:22
SPEAKER_02: They gotta be top five.
17:23
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm trying to think of other teams.
17:25
SPEAKER_02: Actually, just on a tangent real quick, let me look at standings really quick, just so I can see.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: Defensive backcourts, Anthony Black and Jalen Suggs is pretty good.
17:33
SPEAKER_02: I actually I like that a lot.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
17:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna say the Pelicans.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm gonna say the Pelicans, and you let me know in the comment section if there's somebody else defensively, speaking defensively as a backcourt, because there is a moment in this game versus the Kings.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they turned the Kings over a ton in this one, like it happened back to back to back.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: I think Dearon Fox had five to six turnovers at halftime by itself.
17:53
SPEAKER_02: There was one time they were trying to throw an entry pass to the monster bonus, and it might have been Harrison Barnes throwing it.
17:58
SPEAKER_02: Must have forgot that Dyson Daniels was leading the league in deflections and completely, completely got into that lane and ended up in an easy bucket.
18:04
SPEAKER_02: Herb Jones is absolutely everywhere.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: There is uh multiple times um where he just made up for somebody else's mistake.
18:12
SPEAKER_02: And I think in real time I struggle with kind of kind of seeing that happen.
18:16
SPEAKER_02: But when I go back and re-watch highlights or re-watching specific moments, I'm like, man, Herb went from a guy that was in help to switch to to flying by a defender and then blocking the shot.
18:26
SPEAKER_02: It's like he's everywhere.
18:29
SPEAKER_02: So then being able to experiment with the different lineups, Herb is now hitting three-point shots, which makes him an Uber threat.
18:35
SPEAKER_02: I think he led the the team or second in scoring behind Brandon Ingram in that in-season tournament game.
18:40
SPEAKER_02: I am just very, very bullish on the Pacers.
18:44
SPEAKER_02: I don't, I mean Pelicans.
18:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't know about the N-Con tournaments.
18:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm just talking, again, the entire season, as long as they can stay healthy.
18:50
SPEAKER_02: And so far, they haven't been able to do that.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: If they can somehow get a stretch of health where Willie Green has the opportunity to find different lineups, this team can be super, super scary.
19:03
SPEAKER_02: And that was what I was saying in the offseason.
19:05
SPEAKER_02: So to finally see them have a two-game, a two-game sample size of it being real, I'm happy about it.
19:10
SPEAKER_02: Trey Murphy the third is just incredible.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: You know, I thought that he would be on a minutes restriction.
19:16
SPEAKER_02: I thought he might struggle out the gate after missing so much time.
19:20
SPEAKER_02: No, both games, he's been amazing on both sides of the ball.
19:23
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of scary how much depth this team has when they're completely healthy.
19:27
SPEAKER_02: And it's going to be a team that there's no not many possessions where you can take off because Brandon Ingram is a bucket.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: Zion is becoming a more well-rounded player with the playmaking and everything.
19:37
SPEAKER_02: But they have to go against the Lakers.
19:38
SPEAKER_02: And the Lakers are like world beaters in this NCC tournament, man.
19:42
SPEAKER_02: Undefeated still.
19:43
SPEAKER_02: They ain't lost a game.
19:44
SPEAKER_02: Now, going back to the Nick Friedale tweet, going back to the Nick Friedale tweet.
19:49
SPEAKER_02: The NBA has got to be absolutely praying the Lakers and the Knicks win tonight, right?
19:53
SPEAKER_02: The NBA, Adam Silver might have made a call.
19:56
SPEAKER_02: He might have made a call to the referees and say, hold on, hold on, hold on.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: Give that boy that timeout.
20:01
SPEAKER_02: No, I think the two-minute report came out, the last two-minute report came out, and the referee said that the timeout that LeBron James uh called was uh they the refs did the right thing.
20:10
SPEAKER_02: It's not, I mean, I'm I'm a neutral fan in this one.
20:13
SPEAKER_02: I did, I I did think that it kind of killed the momentum of the game.
20:17
SPEAKER_02: But at the end of the day, if it's the right call, it's the right call.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: I'm I mean, I'm not a ref.
20:20
SPEAKER_02: I didn't go to school for that.
20:21
SPEAKER_02: I ain't read their handbooks or anything.
20:22
SPEAKER_02: So they was having like on on line 23, on act four, that says, nah, just no, you just tell me if it was right or wrong.
20:29
SPEAKER_02: You said it was right, okay, cool.
20:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, in this game, Anthony Davis was everywhere.
20:34
SPEAKER_02: And in the game against the Pelicans that we that we were previewing, and the defensive prowl list of Anthony Davis has to be up there.
20:41
SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, he has been great all season.
20:42
SPEAKER_02: If you look at my my first month awards, I had him, I think number two or number three on DPOY, like he's been that great.
20:48
SPEAKER_02: Um, they're still basically funneling in the offense to Anthony and say Anthony uh calls a miss, block a shot, and he's been great at doing that.
20:57
SPEAKER_02: The Pelicans are a drive heavy team, get to the basket, heavy team.
21:01
SPEAKER_02: So I wonder are what what's gonna win?
21:03
SPEAKER_02: You know, what's gonna win?
21:04
SPEAKER_02: Is it gonna be the offense of the Pelicans getting to the basket?
21:07
SPEAKER_02: Or will it be a potential DPOI winner in Anthony Davis?
21:11
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I mean, again, we talked about the clutch defense of the Bucks.
21:14
SPEAKER_02: The number one team in clutch defense so far has been the LA Lakers.
21:17
SPEAKER_02: Also a team shutting the faucet off completely.
21:20
SPEAKER_02: So um right now the Lakers are a one and a half point favorite in this one, which feels how do I feel about that?
21:27
SPEAKER_02: I think that I think that's a fair, I think that's a fair line, mostly because the Pelicans have the ability to win this game for sure.
21:32
SPEAKER_02: And the money line is only a minus 122.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: If I was a bet man, which I am, um, I would probably go Bucks moneyline, Pelicans money line to get a little bit of plus money in there and see what happens.
21:46
SPEAKER_02: Uh again, I think both of these games are gonna be really, really good.
21:49
SPEAKER_02: Now, when it comes to the end season tournament, I was trying to figure out what have fans enjoyed versus haven't enjoyed.
21:54
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, the intensity of the home crowds have been great.
21:57
SPEAKER_02: The Indiana Pacers set the bar at an all time high.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: Right.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: If that game was played in almost any other spot, I don't know if the intensity is that crazy.
22:04
SPEAKER_02: You're talking about a organization that is hungry for a trophy.
22:09
SPEAKER_02: Hungry for a trophy.
22:10
SPEAKER_02: And they showed out.
22:11
SPEAKER_02: And I think that set the bar for pretty much every other game.
22:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, the one thing I think I may have mentioned this before, I understand it going to Vegas to have a neutral site.
22:19
SPEAKER_02: They're kind of experimenting a little bit with seeing what it will be like to have uh more NBA games in Vegas.
22:24
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, we have Summer League.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: We've had an all-star game there, but to have like a winner-go-home scenario, um, Adam Silver said he's not even thinking about expansion just yet, at least until they get this next deal done as far as TV deals go.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: It is no surprise that Vegas will be at the top of their list.
22:39
SPEAKER_02: There's also no surprise that LeBron James is very interested in Vegas as being a minority owner, a majority owner, whatever it may be.
22:46
SPEAKER_02: He's super involved in this.
22:47
SPEAKER_02: Um, so I understand the neutral site, but when I saw the intensity of the crowds of the other games, I kind of wish it wasn't neutral and we can go back to uh what is the Pacers place called?
22:58
SPEAKER_02: Um, hold on, I got it in my notes, don't I?
23:00
SPEAKER_02: The Gangsbridge Fieldhouse.
23:01
SPEAKER_02: Take us back to the Gangs Bridge Fieldhouse, please.
23:03
SPEAKER_02: But it's say we're gonna be in Vegas, and there's a guy that has watched a ton of basketball in Vegas over the last five years, being Summer League.
23:09
SPEAKER_02: The vibes of that is not gonna be nearly as good as the vibes of a home court team.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: Now, the Lakers being so close and the Lakers being one of the biggest organizations in all of basketball, that might feel like a Lakers home game.
23:22
SPEAKER_02: You feel me?
23:23
SPEAKER_02: But it won't at the same time because crypto is different than I forgive the Thomas, the Thomas and Maxon are thinking that's where they're gonna end up playing at.
23:30
SPEAKER_02: One of the complaints I did see from fans is like, hey, we like the NCC tournament, but we gotta play against a good, very good team an extra time, right?
23:39
SPEAKER_02: The the Pacers specifically.
23:41
SPEAKER_02: The Pacers are a team that is going to be competing for a playoff slash play in spot.
23:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't know where they're gonna end up.
23:48
SPEAKER_02: That's not my decision to make.
23:49
SPEAKER_02: But as the Eastern Conference is so stacked, the same thing with the Western Conference, you go against the Bucks four times a year, as is because you're in the same division, and now you have to go against them a fifth time for the in-season tournament.
24:01
SPEAKER_02: And with them, when you're going against them for a fifth time, let's say you miss being the sixth seed by half a game and you lost this in-season tournament game.
24:09
SPEAKER_02: Patience fans are like, man, our schedule is just a little bit more difficult than probably what it needs to be.
24:15
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if we're gonna see a world where we do see there's a half a game difference between the sixth seed and the seventh seed.
24:20
SPEAKER_02: And oh my god, we lost the in-season tournament game.
24:22
SPEAKER_02: So now we're in the the postseason tournament, the play-in tournament.
24:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
24:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying that was one of the major criticisms.
24:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how you fix it.
24:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, one of the criticisms, like, hey, where the players care, we see it.
24:33
SPEAKER_02: Uh uh KD came out and said, hey, at first I didn't really like the idea, but now I played it, and I can't wait till next season.
24:38
SPEAKER_02: LeBron James has sung his praises.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, Tyrese Halliburton has been very uh adamant about it.
24:43
SPEAKER_02: Jason Tatum said he loves it other than the point differential part.
24:46
SPEAKER_02: There's no question anymore about will the players care?
24:49
SPEAKER_02: The answer is yes.
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27:16
SPEAKER_02: Before we get into ranking the future teams of the NBA, I wanted to get into my favorite segment.
27:21
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27:24
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27:27
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27:28
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27:28
SPEAKER_02: I'll be everywhere.
27:29
SPEAKER_02: I'll be looking for questions.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: We got three really good questions.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: The first one comes from Nil Sue.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: And I have a feeling that Neil Sue, we answered one of your questions before.
27:36
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it was an A plus question asker.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: Favorite narrative to watch for the rest of the season.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: Um, one of the more one of my most favorite narratives I'm going to be watching is the the age in which the championship teams win.
27:52
SPEAKER_02: The Denver Nuggets last year were one of the young, believe it or not, think about their roster.
27:56
SPEAKER_02: They were one of the youngest teams in the history of basketball to win an NBA championship.
27:59
SPEAKER_02: Their average age was about 27.
28:01
SPEAKER_02: And that was one of the youngest.
28:02
SPEAKER_02: I think it was like number seventh or number eighth.
28:04
SPEAKER_02: You think about the history of this basket, this sport, 70 plus years of it.
28:08
SPEAKER_02: 27 average age is young, right?
28:11
SPEAKER_02: And you think about all the teams that are towards the top of the Eastern Conference, top of the Western Conference, whether it'd be the Minnesota Timberwolves, the OKC Thunder, um, the I mean, the Boston Celtics is still considered young, probably not with Drew Holiday and Al Horford or whatever.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: But for the most part, it feels like youth is running the league at the moment.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: And I just wonder, are we about to see a shift?
28:31
SPEAKER_02: And like, hey, there's no such thing as too young to win a championship anymore, right?
28:36
SPEAKER_02: Everybody says that.
28:37
SPEAKER_02: Even when OKC was doing that thing with Kevin O'Reilly, Russell, Westbrook, James Harden, they were in the finals.
28:42
SPEAKER_02: And I remember people like, hey, they're too young.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: Brother, they four games away.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean, too young?
28:46
SPEAKER_02: But to see so many young teams doing great stuff, even teams that aren't necessarily world beaters right now, like the Cleveland Cavaliers, who were a top C last year, that's a really young team, right?
28:57
SPEAKER_02: Will we see one of the younger teams take the step to win?
29:01
SPEAKER_02: And will that become the new normal?
29:03
SPEAKER_02: But also, I mean, the teams that are favorited, if you want to call them that, like the Milwaukee Bucks, I think that's the oldest team in all the association.
29:10
SPEAKER_02: We mentioned the Boston Celtics on the youngest, but again, I'm thinking that they might be considered an older or maybe middle of the pack team.
29:16
SPEAKER_02: You get like the, I guess Denver Nuggets is a year older now than they were last year.
29:20
SPEAKER_02: The Lakers are an old team.
29:22
SPEAKER_02: Uh, the Suns are old team, the Clippers are old team.
29:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you consider all of them contenders, the Warriors older team.
29:28
SPEAKER_02: So there's a balance right now of really good young teams and also some older teams that might still got stuff in the tank.
29:34
SPEAKER_02: So I'm just watching to see, will we see a shift?
29:37
SPEAKER_02: The next one comes from Dylan Moore.
29:39
SPEAKER_02: Also, I feel like I've seen you before.
29:41
SPEAKER_02: Is it the same people?
29:43
SPEAKER_02: Only got four people asking questions.
29:44
SPEAKER_02: What the heck?
29:45
SPEAKER_02: Ask AB, Kenny, what is your advice to a young creator who have to my phone, dyslexia.
29:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, what is your advice to young creators who have to work a normal job or trying to make it in a YouTube sphere, treat it like a second job question mark?
30:00
SPEAKER_02: Now, I can't give you all the answers, right?
30:03
SPEAKER_02: But I will say, um, for every creator that says, oh, I dropped out of school or I quit my job to pursue my dreams and they're as successful, it's just as many or even more people that followed that model that did not hit the point that they want to.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: I could I could tell you about my own personal journey real quick, and you make your decision for your life, right?
30:22
SPEAKER_02: When I was creating content, I was working a job about 30 hours a week.
30:26
SPEAKER_02: So I get, I was a part-timer and I was in college and I was making content, right?
30:31
SPEAKER_02: When I quit my job as a part-timer, I was making the exact same money on YouTube versus at the vitamin shop that I was working.
30:38
SPEAKER_02: So I told my dad, because I'm still in, I'm a freshman in college at this point.
30:41
SPEAKER_02: I'm still living at home because I went to community college.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: I didn't move abroad or abroad.
30:44
SPEAKER_02: I didn't move out out of the house.
30:46
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, dad, here's my paycheck from YouTube.
30:48
SPEAKER_02: Here's my paycheck from the vitamin shop.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: It's the exact same number.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: So if I put my time and efforts on this YouTube stuff, that number might stay the same or it might get bigger, but I don't need to sit here and go to the vitamin shop 30 hours a week right after school when I'm super tired.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: When I can just put that same effort or even, I guess, less time into YouTube.
31:06
SPEAKER_02: He says, Bet, I trust you.
31:08
SPEAKER_02: No big deal.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: The YouTube stuff starts to take off.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: Mind you, I'm still in college.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm still grinding these courses.
31:14
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what the heck I want to do with my life, but I'm at community college, so I'm just getting my gin edge done and I'm seeing the YouTube stuff be successful.
31:22
SPEAKER_02: I didn't drop out the moment when my paycheck was okay.
31:26
SPEAKER_02: I continue to go to college because I still didn't know if YouTube was a real viable option for me.
31:31
SPEAKER_02: I had known plenty of creators that turn into a full-time job, but I I always look at this from, and maybe pessimistic is not the right word, but I try to look at the worst case scenario with these type of things.
31:43
SPEAKER_02: And when other things happen, the best case scenario, then I'm I'm cool, right?
31:47
SPEAKER_02: So I'm looking at, okay, my paycheck is like this, it might not last this way, but even if it's 50% of this, I still feel comfortable, right?
31:54
SPEAKER_02: The moment I stop going to school, and I'm gonna give you some real talk right now.
31:58
SPEAKER_02: The moment where I felt comfortable with dropping out of school is when I had four paychecks in a row.
32:04
SPEAKER_02: Remember, on YouTube you get paid monthly for the most part.
32:07
SPEAKER_02: I have four paychecks in a row of five-figure paychecks.
32:11
SPEAKER_02: So I'm making$10 plus thousand dollars a month for four straight months.
32:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, you know what?
32:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm actually gonna go overdrive on this YouTube stuff.
32:18
SPEAKER_02: That was the point where I felt the most comfortable, right?
32:21
SPEAKER_02: But again, there for me, there's a bunch of people that say, hey, I ain't do the college.
32:25
SPEAKER_02: I didn't do the school.
32:26
SPEAKER_02: I didn't do the work.
32:27
SPEAKER_02: I went all in on YouTube and they have success stories too, but I'm always gonna be cautious because social media is is is fecal.
32:36
SPEAKER_02: Is that the right word?
32:37
SPEAKER_02: Ew.
32:38
SPEAKER_02: Ew, that's not the right word.
32:40
SPEAKER_02: It's thin, it doesn't last forever, you know, especially in the space of being a creator where there's younger and funnier and and better creators coming up every single year.
32:50
SPEAKER_02: You know, your your lifespan as creative might be two years, and it might be a great two years, but it could just be two years.
32:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm lucky enough that this has now been my full-time job since 2017, 2017.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: So what is that, six years?
33:04
SPEAKER_02: Going on seven years of it being like my full time?
33:06
SPEAKER_02: And I I'm in I'm in the minority with that type of longevity, right?
33:10
SPEAKER_02: So I will always tell you to be safe, have a backup option because you never really know what's gonna happen with the internet.
33:17
SPEAKER_02: And then the last question comes from Nitris.
33:19
SPEAKER_02: He says, rank the stadiums you've been to and top five you want to go to.
33:22
SPEAKER_02: Nitrous, that's a very good question.
33:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna give you my top five that I want to go to, but as I was doing my little research, um, I have been to a total of 11 different arenas across the association.
33:33
SPEAKER_02: It feels like a lot, but I feel like it's not.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: As a guy that's been doing media for like, I guess, four years now, as like full-time media, but also we had a pandemic where nobody was going out.
33:43
SPEAKER_02: Here's my ranking of the 11 arenas that I've been to.
33:46
SPEAKER_02: This is based on my personal experience, the arena, the food, the atmosphere, all of it.
33:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, all of it.
33:54
SPEAKER_02: Okay, don't get mad at me.
33:56
SPEAKER_02: Definitely don't get mad because I'm working with teams, and I don't want just because your name is low on this list, I don't want you to think that we can't be cool, we can't work together, but I'm just I'm going off my experience, and most of these places only went to one time, right?
34:06
SPEAKER_02: So maybe it was a bad night.
34:07
SPEAKER_02: You feel me?
34:08
SPEAKER_02: Number 11.
34:09
SPEAKER_02: The bottom of my list is the spectrum center of the Charlotte Hornets.
34:13
SPEAKER_02: I went there through All-Star Weekend in 2019.
34:15
SPEAKER_02: I want to say, didn't really enjoy the arena as much as maybe some other people.
34:19
SPEAKER_02: That's my number uh 11.
34:21
SPEAKER_02: My number 10 is the Game Bridge Fieldhouse.
34:25
SPEAKER_02: Now, I want to give a caveat here.
34:26
SPEAKER_02: I went there when they weren't very good, right?
34:29
SPEAKER_02: Or they weren't even half really good.
34:30
SPEAKER_02: I think the year that I went there, Malcolm Brogdon was on the team.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: So maybe I need to go back to Indy and watch them again.
34:36
SPEAKER_02: Because the one thing I did like, it felt like a college arena, right?
34:39
SPEAKER_02: The way the stadium goes up.
34:40
SPEAKER_02: And I feel like if I was in one of those games where it was rocking, the number 10 would shoot all the way up.
34:44
SPEAKER_02: But from my experience from that one game, it wasn't really all that.
34:47
SPEAKER_02: Next, we got the State Farm Arena.
34:49
SPEAKER_02: I think that's the Atlanta Hawks, right?
34:50
SPEAKER_02: Um they recently rebuilt it and everything.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: It's a cool spot.
34:53
SPEAKER_02: There was something about the lighting that I didn't like.
34:55
SPEAKER_02: I went to three games there in three different trips.
34:57
SPEAKER_02: So I've been there a couple different times.
34:59
SPEAKER_02: Again, just because you loan the list, don't mean I hated it.
35:02
SPEAKER_02: It just wasn't the best experience for me.
35:04
SPEAKER_02: Um, number eight was ball arena or ball are ball arena for the, what is that, the different nuggets.
35:10
SPEAKER_02: I went there for the ring ceremony this season.
35:11
SPEAKER_02: And it was the atmosphere, it was very cool.
35:13
SPEAKER_02: It was beautiful.
35:14
SPEAKER_02: I didn't like the the actual arena.
35:18
SPEAKER_02: Atmosphere was elite.
35:19
SPEAKER_02: The arena, not so much, in my opinion.
35:21
SPEAKER_02: Number seven was Phil Wells Fargo for Philadelphia 76ers.
35:24
SPEAKER_02: Number six is the Barclays or Center Arena for the Brooklyn Nets.
35:28
SPEAKER_02: Number five was Rocket Mortgage in Cleveland.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: Number four was a Chase Center.
35:32
SPEAKER_02: Shout out to the Chase Center.
35:33
SPEAKER_02: Been there, I think, three times now.
35:34
SPEAKER_02: Uh ring ceremony days, just a random regular season game versus the Knicks.
35:38
SPEAKER_02: Um, good place.
35:39
SPEAKER_02: I do understand the people that's like, hey, it's so expensive and so rich that it priced the real feds out.
35:45
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I get that feel.
35:46
SPEAKER_02: So from the again, I've been there three times.
35:48
SPEAKER_02: I got that feel a little bit.
35:50
SPEAKER_02: Number three is my United Center.
35:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, I was gonna be biased, but the UC is actually like that.
35:55
SPEAKER_02: It really is.
35:56
SPEAKER_02: Um, number two is crypto.com.
35:59
SPEAKER_02: I was very close to splitting this up because I've been to two Lakers games and two Clippers games in that arena.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: The Lakers games have a better feel.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: The arena itself is the same, right?
36:08
SPEAKER_02: It's the Lakers game had the better feel.
36:10
SPEAKER_02: Actually, one of the games I went to, so I went to two for each, and then I went one neutral, where it was a Lakers versus Clippers game.
36:15
SPEAKER_02: It was actually Kawhi Leonard's first game back after the injury.
36:19
SPEAKER_02: I was at that game.
36:19
SPEAKER_02: And I was at Kawhi's game where he did get injured against the Utah Jazz.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: That's kind of crazy.
36:24
SPEAKER_02: I was at both of those.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: Um, that's my number two, and my number one, nobody's been able to beat Madison Square Guard.
36:29
SPEAKER_02: I understand why everybody wants to go there and try to drop 50.
36:32
SPEAKER_02: The lighting, the the the fans, the food, everything about MSG is it's beautiful.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: It's best hoops you can get.
36:45
SPEAKER_02: Now I want to rank the NBA futures.
36:48
SPEAKER_02: Now, I tried to look at this from a three to five year outlook of NBA teams.
36:52
SPEAKER_02: And this is a lot different than ranking young cores, right?
36:55
SPEAKER_02: It's a lot different than that because I'm not I'm not doing that, right?
36:59
SPEAKER_02: A lot of young teams did not make this list.
37:02
SPEAKER_02: The Spurs, you got with me, did not make my list.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: There are actually some veteran teams in here because three to five years from now, I still believe their core will either be intact and still be really good.
37:13
SPEAKER_02: Now, there are some teams that there's like a cloud hovering above the organization that might prevent me from putting it high, and I'll kind of explain that.
37:20
SPEAKER_02: Again, these are all subjective.
37:22
SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm not right.
37:24
SPEAKER_02: You're not wrong, you know.
37:25
SPEAKER_02: So leave in the comment section if you were going to rank the NBA futures what you agree or disagree with.
37:29
SPEAKER_02: My number 10.
37:31
SPEAKER_02: I want to talk this through with each other with each other because I got three teams at number 10.
37:36
SPEAKER_02: So, really, this is what top 12?
37:38
SPEAKER_02: Because I don't know.
37:39
SPEAKER_02: My number 10 is tied between the Cleveland Cavaliers, the 76ers, and the Kings.
37:45
SPEAKER_02: Three teams that are widely different in their future outlook, right?
37:48
SPEAKER_02: The 76ers are number 10.
37:50
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm sorry, the Cavs are number 10 versus being towards the top of the list.
37:53
SPEAKER_02: Because of all of the rumors about Donovan Mitchell, I cannot help but to keep that in the back of mind when I think about five uh three to five years.
38:01
SPEAKER_02: And three to five years, Donovan Mitchell is a free agent, right?
38:05
SPEAKER_02: He's a free agent.
38:07
SPEAKER_02: So that hold that that holds water to me.
38:09
SPEAKER_02: That holds not water, that holds weight to me.
38:11
SPEAKER_02: Uh, if it wasn't for that, I feel pretty good about the Cavs.
38:15
SPEAKER_02: Evan Mobley is still a stud, Derek Scotland's a stud, and obviously they have a talented young team.
38:19
SPEAKER_02: But to think uh three years from now, in 2026, he could be in New York or he could be here, that scares me a little bit for the future outlet of their organization.
38:28
SPEAKER_02: I still feel comfortable enough to at least put him in the conversation, but not good enough to put him in number 10 completely.
38:34
SPEAKER_02: The 76ers are another team that have a cloud.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: I love what they're doing right now.
38:38
SPEAKER_02: Jordan B today just had a 50-point game against the Washington Wizards.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: Tyrese Max, he's looking great, but also another cloud.
38:44
SPEAKER_02: Hypothetically, if the 76ers lose in the second round again, I know they got some cap space to maybe go sign a max player this offseason, but if they lose in the second round again, who knows what Jordan B's mindset is gonna be at?
38:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm not trying to put bad juju in the F for 76ers fans, but again, I'm thinking about three to five years.
39:00
SPEAKER_02: And also in three to five years, Jordan B is gonna be what, 31, 32 years old.
39:05
SPEAKER_02: I feel good about the way he's gonna age, but maybe not as good as I feel about some of the other players aging, you know?
39:10
SPEAKER_02: And the Kings, the De'Aaron Fox and DeMont Sabonis are both gonna get max contracts, right?
39:15
SPEAKER_02: He he declined a two-year,$100 million contract a couple days ago.
39:19
SPEAKER_02: He wants a supermax, he's gonna get the super max.
39:21
SPEAKER_02: He's worth it at this point.
39:23
SPEAKER_02: But as they get more expensive, so is the team because they're gonna be eerily close to the second apron with their roster.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: And I'm just thinking three to five year outlook, it's really dependent on what Keegan Murray turns into and what additional changes they make to the team.
39:35
SPEAKER_02: There's rumors that they they're gonna be buyers this offseason or this regular season, so that might change where they place, right?
39:41
SPEAKER_02: Let's get to the top nine.
39:43
SPEAKER_02: Number nine is the Indiana Pacers.
39:45
SPEAKER_02: Um, I kind of looked at this from the sense that I believe that Tyrese Halliburton will blossom into a superstar.
39:49
SPEAKER_02: Some people might argue he's already there.
39:51
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna hold, I'm reserved within the superstar title as of right now.
39:54
SPEAKER_02: But again, he is a system.
39:56
SPEAKER_02: One of the things that I don't love about the team is we don't have a definite number two for him just yet.
40:01
SPEAKER_02: And because they are decent, it's not like they're gonna go to the draft and end up with a top five pick that projects to be that.
40:07
SPEAKER_02: Now, they could get lucky and draft somebody there with the 19th overall pick or the 20th overall pick.
40:12
SPEAKER_02: You don't necessarily need a high lottery pick to find a star, but right now it is Tyrese and a bunch of players who we like, but maybe none of them blossoms to be the secondary all-star that they might need.
40:23
SPEAKER_02: Number eight on my list is a Houston Rockets.
40:27
SPEAKER_02: I wanted to put them higher.
40:28
SPEAKER_02: I did, I did, but number eight is the way it's gonna be.
40:31
SPEAKER_02: I genuinely do believe, and I mean this with my whole heart, that Alpern Shengun is gonna be a superstar in this league.
40:38
SPEAKER_02: I just do.
40:39
SPEAKER_02: Right?
40:40
SPEAKER_02: Right now, he might be he might be an all-star this season, but I believe at one point he's gonna blossom into super stardom.
40:46
SPEAKER_02: And I also do like a couple other pieces on the uh Jabari Smith Jr.
40:50
SPEAKER_02: is a guy that's lower in his overall field goal attempts, minutes, all of these other things, but he's looked better this year than last year, right?
40:56
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of things to be happy and excited about for the Houston Rockets.
41:00
SPEAKER_02: There are a few question marks too, and those question marks are maybe why I don't have them higher.
41:04
SPEAKER_02: Like I'm in Thompson just went to the G League and had a triple-double, almost a five by five.
41:07
SPEAKER_02: I need to see what he turns into, at least a little bit.
41:10
SPEAKER_02: But they have the potential to grow the highest on this list because they still have a bunch of young talent that is still trying to figure it out.
41:16
SPEAKER_02: I know I mean I don't know for sure, but I'm confident in Alprin Shangoon's development.
41:21
SPEAKER_02: It's like, okay, what type of player would Jalen Green end up being a three to five?
41:24
SPEAKER_02: Jabari, uh Amin.
41:26
SPEAKER_02: Will Cam Whitmore ever get in get into the swing of things?
41:29
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
41:30
SPEAKER_02: I just feel good about Alprin Shagun and he's carrying that right now.
41:33
SPEAKER_02: Number seven on my list, Orlando Magic.
41:36
SPEAKER_02: Palo Bancaro just said, well, a 40-piece, or one made three.
41:39
SPEAKER_02: Good old-fashioned Carmelo Anthony 40-piece.
41:42
SPEAKER_02: They end up losing the game to the Cavaliers, obviously.
41:44
SPEAKER_02: But um, the way they're hooping right now, and you think about the core that they have between the two wing players, Anthony Black looks pretty good.
41:51
SPEAKER_02: What would he turn into?
41:52
SPEAKER_02: Again, I don't really know.
41:53
SPEAKER_02: And with them having draft capital and younger players, I'm not saying this is the year, but they are a team that can swing a little bit.
42:00
SPEAKER_02: Not maybe not for the fences, but swing a little bit to get some more talent in right now while maintaining the young core that they have already put together.
42:08
SPEAKER_02: Number six on my list is the Minnesota Timberwolves.
42:11
SPEAKER_02: It's a team that I wanted to put a lot higher.
42:13
SPEAKER_02: The reason they are at number six is because as good as they are right now, and they are the number one team in ball right now.
42:19
SPEAKER_02: Shout out to them.
42:20
SPEAKER_02: Rudy Gobert is playing great.
42:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh, Carnegie Towns has been playing great.
42:24
SPEAKER_02: I know he didn't have an amazing game versus the Spurs, but he's been playing great as of recent.
42:27
SPEAKER_02: He's a 50, 40, 90 player.
42:28
SPEAKER_02: Anthony Air.
42:28
SPEAKER_02: I don't need to explain to you how good they've been.
42:30
SPEAKER_02: You've been watching basketball.
42:32
SPEAKER_02: They also cannot bring back this same team next season.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: So the only reason they're number six and not higher is because I don't know what move they will make to make this team affordable.
42:43
SPEAKER_02: That's the thing.
42:44
SPEAKER_02: Who do they move?
42:45
SPEAKER_02: What are they moving for?
42:46
SPEAKER_02: Is still a question mark.
42:47
SPEAKER_02: As of right now, they're playing great basketball and we love it, but they have to sit at number six because I can't overlook the fact that you feel me, somebody on the one of these core four, Jaden McDaniels, uh Carthony Towns, Anthony Edwards, or Rudy Gobert will probably not be on the roster next season.
43:04
SPEAKER_02: And I just don't know what to think of that.
43:06
SPEAKER_02: Again, I said probably.
43:07
SPEAKER_02: I can't say for sure.
43:09
SPEAKER_02: Number five of my list is the Dallas Mavericks.
43:11
SPEAKER_02: It's really just the Luka Doncic and Darry Lively thing.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: You know, Luka Doncic just had a 40-point triple double in what 30 minutes, if that.
43:19
SPEAKER_02: Now, he did it, right?
43:22
SPEAKER_02: And I cannot deny the fact that he did it.
43:24
SPEAKER_02: He did it against the Utah Jazz.
43:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna read you the Star Lineup for the Utah Jazz today.
43:28
SPEAKER_02: Um, if I can oh my god, click the wrong game.
43:31
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna read you the star lineup for the Utah Jazz today.
43:33
SPEAKER_02: Because that that um it was Keontae George, a rook.
43:37
SPEAKER_02: He ended up with 11 assists.
43:38
SPEAKER_02: I need to watch that.
43:39
SPEAKER_02: He was a Keonta George was a minus 48 tonight.
43:43
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
43:44
SPEAKER_02: Ote Abaje was starting at the two.
43:47
SPEAKER_02: Uh Simone Fontecchio was at the three.
43:50
SPEAKER_02: John Collins at the four, and Omar, your seven, was at the five.
43:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh you still have to go get your stats.
43:58
SPEAKER_02: You feel me?
43:58
SPEAKER_02: The 40 point troped was nothing sniff.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: He's at, but he did do it against it might be the worst starting lineup of the league or the season this year.
44:06
SPEAKER_02: I can't lie to you.
44:06
SPEAKER_02: It might be number, it might be dead ass last and starting lineups.
44:10
SPEAKER_02: But in 31 minutes, 40 points, 11 assists, and 10 rebounds, and got into a mini scuffle versus Chris Dunn.
44:17
SPEAKER_02: Chris Dunn, I like the fact that he was running up his stats, I would assume.
44:20
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
44:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm just talking.
44:21
SPEAKER_02: Um, but the fact that Luka Doncic is Luka Doncic.
44:24
SPEAKER_02: Now, again, I know there is still a somewhat of a cloud over him about the Mavs, and will they be able to put together a good enough team around him where he feels comfortable for being there for the next three to five?
44:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt at the moment and say yes.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: My number four on the list, again, I mentioned how bullish I was about this team is the New Orleans Pelicans.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: Uh also, like everybody, questions.
44:45
SPEAKER_02: Will Z still be here?
44:46
SPEAKER_02: Will BI still be here, whoever, whatever?
44:48
SPEAKER_02: I love the core that they have.
44:50
SPEAKER_02: I think they're all young enough.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: We're in three to five years.
44:54
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Trey Murphy III.
44:56
SPEAKER_02: I mentioned how uh uh uh uh excited or high I was on Al Brench and going being a superstar.
45:02
SPEAKER_02: I am almost equally high on Trey Murphy III being an all-star adjacent player.
45:10
SPEAKER_02: Adjacent.
45:11
SPEAKER_02: The problem is that he's playing the wing spot and they have two wings in their roster that there's also all-star slash all-star Jason.
45:19
SPEAKER_02: But I believe that he's gonna be so damn good that they're gonna have to make a big decision and it's gonna be around him.
45:26
SPEAKER_02: And it's gonna be them keeping him and maybe sacrificing something else somewhere else.
45:30
SPEAKER_02: But those are good things to have.
45:32
SPEAKER_02: When you have too much talent, I like too much talent.
45:35
SPEAKER_02: Number three on my list, the Denver Nuggets.
45:37
SPEAKER_02: Three to five years from now, I still believe that Nicole Yoke is gonna be able to do the things that he's gonna do.
45:42
SPEAKER_02: I still do believe that Jamal Murray is gonna be able to do the things he's doing because he's still relatively young.
45:46
SPEAKER_02: Uh, Michael Porter Jr.
45:47
SPEAKER_02: is having a great season this year.
45:48
SPEAKER_02: Still believe in him.
45:49
SPEAKER_02: So, like, there are defending champions right now, and and they said that they're not just trying to win one, they're trying to win multiple.
45:56
SPEAKER_02: And I think that they're a team that can win multiple.
45:59
SPEAKER_02: My number two, my number two, I've I flipped these last two teams around quite a bit.
46:06
SPEAKER_02: I flipped them around quite a bit, and now I'm I'm I'm second guessing what I want.
46:11
SPEAKER_02: My number two, it's the Boston Celtics.
46:14
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be the Boston Celtics.
46:16
SPEAKER_02: Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum.
46:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh, Jason Tatum being one of the top players in basketball, still really young.
46:21
SPEAKER_02: And Brad Stevens slash uh, I guess Danny Ainge before him has always made it a point to build competent to championship quality teams around Jason Tatum.
46:30
SPEAKER_02: Again, obviously they have not got any jewelry just yet, but they've always been good enough to compete.
46:36
SPEAKER_02: And I don't think that's going away anytime soon as long as Tatum is on the team.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: And my number one is the OKC Thunder.
46:42
SPEAKER_02: Best young corn basketball, 17 first-round picks over the next however many seasons.
46:48
SPEAKER_02: Um I think that that's probably the easy one, right?
46:50
SPEAKER_02: I mean, again, it was between them and Boston.
46:52
SPEAKER_02: I went with them because they already have the superstars, Shay Gius Alexander, and Chet Holmgren is turning into a monster.
46:58
SPEAKER_02: I I feel really good about him blossoming into a star one day.
47:00
SPEAKER_02: Jaden, Jaden, Jaden, Jalen Williams is a stud.
47:04
SPEAKER_02: I think that Josh Giddy is the odd man out long term.
47:07
SPEAKER_02: It's just a matter of do you try to get some value from early versus later.
47:11
SPEAKER_02: But if we if we say that their core three is Shay, uh Chet and J Dub plus whatever they could get in the Giddy trade piece, I love what they've been able to build in the now and the future is super bright as well.
47:26
SPEAKER_02: The last thing I want to talk about is something I'm actually happy came out.
47:30
SPEAKER_02: I feel like we do not get a bunch of role players, specifically young role players, that feel comfortable enough with expressing their frustrations with their role.
47:41
SPEAKER_02: The person that did that the other day was Quentin Grimes.
47:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, Quentin Grimes aired out his grievances with his role on the Knicks.
47:48
SPEAKER_02: It feels like if I don't hit a shot, I'm coming out.
47:50
SPEAKER_02: So every shot I shoot probably weighs like 100 pounds.
47:54
SPEAKER_02: It's tough going out there and just standing in the corner.
47:57
SPEAKER_02: It is what it is.
47:58
SPEAKER_02: We'll see.
47:59
SPEAKER_02: Um, he has not been very good.
48:01
SPEAKER_02: Grimes has now missed 11 of his last 21 shots from downtown, a 19% three-point shooting clip over the last seven games.
48:09
SPEAKER_02: And after starting the season at 40% three-point shooter, Grimes' efficiency has regressed to below 35%.
48:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, Tom Thibodeau is a guy that's like, hey, you know, if you're not doing it right, we got somebody else that can.
48:19
SPEAKER_02: Dante DiVincenzo is that guy at the moment, where if Quinn Grimes is not scoring or not hitting the shots, you feel good about Dante being that guy.
48:27
SPEAKER_02: Last night in the last preseason game, Quinn Grimes didn't see his first shot attempt until the third quarter.
48:32
SPEAKER_02: And he bricked it, and he got subbed out.
48:35
SPEAKER_02: So um it's just not, it's not very, it's not very normal to see a younger player, uh younger role player and say, hey, I'm not loving the way things are going.
48:46
SPEAKER_02: As of right now, let me double check this because this I came up with this number.
48:50
SPEAKER_02: I found this number before um before their game against the the Boston.
48:56
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm sorry, who was that?
48:57
SPEAKER_02: The Milwaukee Bucks.
48:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna I'm gonna quickly double check this real quick on the fly.
49:01
SPEAKER_02: Right now, in Quentin Grimes has one of the low, yes, one of the lowest usage ratings of any starter in basketball.
49:09
SPEAKER_02: It is the second lowest of any starter in basketball.
49:13
SPEAKER_02: The the lowest of a wings slash guard player.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: Um he's been relegated to a 3 and D guy.
49:21
SPEAKER_02: And it for the most part, part of his career has been a successful thing.
49:26
SPEAKER_02: Not as successful now.
49:28
SPEAKER_02: Now the shot is not falling as much.
49:30
SPEAKER_02: And that is taking a toll on him mentally, it seems like.
49:33
SPEAKER_02: Him being able to go out there and talk about this candidly means something.
49:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, he said it's just hard to go a whole quarter without touching the ball, a whole second quarter without touching the ball.
49:42
SPEAKER_02: And then you get one shot and you gotta make it.
49:45
SPEAKER_02: So it's tough going out there and standing in the corner the whole game.
49:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just it's just this also the thing.
49:52
SPEAKER_02: And I want us to play the Schamps clip.
49:54
SPEAKER_00: So, do you do you hear rumblings?
49:56
SPEAKER_00: Are the Knicks thinking about it?
49:58
SPEAKER_00: Are they gonna look as we get closer and closer to sort of a trade deadline situation?
50:01
SPEAKER_00: Will moves be made?
50:04
SPEAKER_01: They're monitoring the marketplace.
50:06
SPEAKER_01: They want to see if there's a star player that's available that they would go all in for.
50:10
SPEAKER_01: They have eight first-round draft picks that they can trade, Michelle.
50:13
SPEAKER_01: Four of their own, four from other teams.
50:15
SPEAKER_01: So they've kept a lot of their assets.
50:16
SPEAKER_01: They have a ton of tradable contracts as well.
50:19
SPEAKER_01: They have a couple young players.
50:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they think of guys like Quentin Grimes, Emmanuel Quickley.
50:23
SPEAKER_01: So they've got pieces.
50:25
SPEAKER_01: If they want to go make an aggressive bid for a superstar player, I think they have what it takes.
50:29
SPEAKER_01: The question is, do they find the guy out there that they would want to do it for?
50:33
SPEAKER_01: Would you put all your chips in the middle?
50:34
SPEAKER_01: Would you trade, you know, three, four first-round picks for Carl Anthony Talents?
50:39
SPEAKER_01: Like what what to what capacity do they go all in for?
50:42
SPEAKER_01: I think these are all questions that they they have to answer, but I think they're they're keeping an open mind with the marketplace, and I think they are monitoring which star they want to go all in for.
50:50
SPEAKER_02: Shout out to our friends over at FanDuel TV.
50:52
SPEAKER_02: Shams mentions that the New York Knicks are out there looking for uh acquiring a superstar level talent.
50:58
SPEAKER_02: So you have a outspoken and um mentally depleted player, young player, that I think a lot of teams will take interest in, and Quentin Grimes, plus an Evan Fournier contract, plus a bunch of draft capital and some other young pieces.
51:12
SPEAKER_02: The New York Knicks are in the market of making a trade.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: And I do believe, again, just based on the comments of Q Grimes and the lack of shooting and the lack of role, that Q is a player that is in need of a change.
51:25
SPEAKER_02: He's in a need of a different scenario.
51:28
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what the ceiling is for Quentin Grimes.
51:31
SPEAKER_02: I couldn't tell you.
51:32
SPEAKER_02: But him being relegated to the role that he's relegated, especially if it's not being successful, is just hindering him and the team for the most part, right?
51:41
SPEAKER_02: The problem with the Knicks asking or going out there and trying to find a trade is that we're at the point right now where every team kind of feels okay.
51:49
SPEAKER_02: And again, they said superstar.
51:51
SPEAKER_02: Seam said superstar, not all-star, right?
51:53
SPEAKER_02: Not just an all-star.
51:55
SPEAKER_02: And the few players that might be on the market are, for the most part, just all-star caliber or overlapping talent.
52:00
SPEAKER_02: You don't want to go trade for Pascal Siakam.
52:01
SPEAKER_02: You have Julius Randle, they play the same position.
52:03
SPEAKER_02: They have similar-ish-ish styles of play.
52:07
SPEAKER_02: You want to go trade for Zach Levine because he doesn't help you on the defensive side of the ball whatsoever.
52:12
SPEAKER_02: You don't want to trade for DeMarta Rose because the spacing is going to be negative.
52:15
SPEAKER_02: So this is the one time, and I know the Knicks are always in the market for a star player, it feels like, but them being, I guess, open about at least through Shams, it's just the timing is not great because I'm looking across the association for, again, superstar.
52:28
SPEAKER_02: He even mentioned Carnthony Towns.
52:29
SPEAKER_02: And again, we mentioned that the Wolves have to make a decision, but you do not have the best start to nearly your franchise history, and then say, hey, we're going to trade a player now because in the offseason he's going to be too expensive, right?
52:40
SPEAKER_02: So Carnthony Towns is not that guy either.
52:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't know who that guy is for them, but it's going to be interesting because they may have to settle for a little bit less than that.
52:49
SPEAKER_02: You know, they may have to settle for a player that's less than the superstar.
52:52
SPEAKER_02: And I know that they really want Donovan Mitchell.
52:55
SPEAKER_02: I don't think he's going to be available anytime soon.
52:57
SPEAKER_02: The the Cavaliers are playing good basketball at the moment.
53:00
SPEAKER_02: So for a team right now that is sitting at 12 and 8 with some young players and an all-star caliber player and so on, it's just it's going to be interesting to see what the New York Knicks end up doing.
53:11
SPEAKER_02: Hashtag free Quentin Grimes.
53:13
SPEAKER_02: How about that?
53:14
SPEAKER_02: Free Evan 48, too.
53:15
SPEAKER_02: E-E-E-F, is that his nickname?
53:17
SPEAKER_02: Has said six months ago that he wanted to be traded.
53:20
SPEAKER_02: Him and four Corgman said four years ago.
53:22
SPEAKER_02: Um, Freedom Guys, free to guys.
53:30
SPEAKER_02: We just got note that Zach Levine is gonna be missing the next three to four weeks.
53:34
SPEAKER_02: Um with right foot inflammation.
53:36
SPEAKER_02: Get well soon, Zach.
53:38
SPEAKER_02: I said on my other podcast, then we'll get out of here.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: I know it's been a longer episode.
53:41
SPEAKER_02: I said on my other podcast that I had a conspiracy theory that not saying that Zach Lee's not dealing with injury, but they're slow grinding it because they have verbally already agreed on the trade with somebody.
53:50
SPEAKER_02: Um, saying that, hey, you know, most people can't get traded until December 15th, and then another group of people can't get traded until uh January 15th.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: We don't we know that this other team might be interested.
54:00
SPEAKER_02: We might have a verbal agreement.
54:02
SPEAKER_02: We're just we're just gonna sit you on ice until we can like contractually make this trade.
54:08
SPEAKER_02: And now him being out three to four weeks makes my theory look a little bit better.
54:12
SPEAKER_02: Now, if we see Zach get traded December 15th or January 15th exactly, then that theory would be true.
54:19
SPEAKER_02: Zach Alina's probably play his last minute as a Chicago bull, and I have conflicting feelings and emotions about it.
54:24
SPEAKER_02: Enjoy watching for the last six or seven years, but it might be over.
54:28
SPEAKER_02: I wish him nothing but the best.
54:29
SPEAKER_02: Also wish you nothing but the best.
54:30
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54:32
SPEAKER_02: Do you agree with my top 10 ranking?
54:34
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54:34
SPEAKER_02: Do you agree that Quentin Grimes need to change the scenery?
54:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
54:38
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54:39
SPEAKER_02: Spotify five stars, Apple five stars, and I'll see y'all in a couple days.