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Best of full interview: 2 Chainz Opens Up About Purpose, His Father & The Voice In His Head + more · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Every day up we pick up the breakfast club.
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm finished for y'all.
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Speaker 1: Done morning.
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Speaker 3: Everybody's d J n V. Just hilarious.
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Speaker 4: Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club lawn the
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Speaker 4: Roses here as well.
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Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, what.
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Speaker 2: Are y'all doing? Good morning?
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Speaker 5: You and the family came ready to be cold. Listen,
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Speaker 5: you was just.
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Speaker 2: Waiting on your little.
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Speaker 6: Because I watched the other view. You can't get one
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Speaker 6: in right. He was so serious the whole time. So
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Speaker 6: you know, I rock with your police. I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 6: we we were. We just left in a you circuit
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Speaker 6: with my son and we was in Cincinnati and they
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Speaker 6: said it was gonna be cold there, but it wasn't freezing.
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Speaker 2: But when we came to New York it was cold.
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Speaker 4: That is the only day too, because the rest of
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Speaker 4: the week we're getting like sixty to seventy degrees.
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Speaker 3: Today is the only day you can wear.
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Speaker 6: That bliss you because it's cold. It's my room, it's
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Speaker 6: coold new book.
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Speaker 7: The voice in my head is God. I want to
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Speaker 7: ask what was the intention behind the outfit this morning?
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Speaker 7: Because then the bury me inside the Louis store chapter.
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Speaker 7: You say, every outfit has an intention, So what's what's
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Speaker 7: the energy other than it was cold?
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Speaker 6: That's the energy that And it's like where else can
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Speaker 6: you wear like the hat in it? And you know
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Speaker 6: I can't get this OFUF in Atlanta, so this will
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Speaker 6: be the place. And I don't live in Canada, so
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Speaker 6: this will be the place. Tell you, man, what's happening.
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Speaker 4: The voice in my head is God new book that's
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Speaker 4: out today. Make sure you go get it if you
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Speaker 4: haven't got it yet. Why was it the time to
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Speaker 4: write this book?
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Speaker 6: I just think that success without reflection is just noise.
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, success without giving back is noise.
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Speaker 6: So I'm feeling successful. I think when you live long
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Speaker 6: enough to experience scars, when you want enough to have
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Speaker 6: the wisdom, you know, then it's time to write a
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Speaker 6: book in my personal opinions, so you know, growth, maturation
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Speaker 6: me you know talking about are you talking about God
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Speaker 6: in this book through my personal experiences?
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 6: So I just felt like, after you do for me,
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Speaker 6: I've done the albums, I've shot my short feelm and
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Speaker 6: I'm just ready to take more creative risks. And so
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Speaker 6: this doesn't feel like a risk because I feel like
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Speaker 6: this could this could motivate someone, this could help someone.
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Speaker 6: It's not generic, it's not cliche. I hadn't seen any
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Speaker 6: other artists talk about, you know, intuition in the book space,
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Speaker 6: So just so you.
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Speaker 4: Know, I wanted to on to one thing, the biggest thing.
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Speaker 4: Everybody takes a different part of what they feel that
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Speaker 4: they get out of the book. Right, for myself is
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Speaker 4: your relationship with your dad. And the reason I say
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Speaker 4: that is I have said and I'm always very intentional
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Speaker 4: of what.
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Speaker 3: I say to my kids, right, because there's.
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Speaker 4: A line between being a dad and it's a line
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Speaker 4: with being a human being.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 3: And I'll explain.
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Speaker 4: So with that relationship with your dad, was there I
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Speaker 4: know your dad moved in with you. Was those tough
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Speaker 4: conversations to have from to start him being incarcerated to
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Speaker 4: even at one time when when you know, when you
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Speaker 4: got into that incident in Alabama and your dad said,
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Speaker 4: well go get a gun and go handle yourself. You know,
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Speaker 4: how would those conversations had because I'm sure you wouldn't
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Speaker 4: tell your kids that same thing, or would you.
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Speaker 6: That's a good question, you know, Well, I think everybody
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Speaker 6: in here have lived through different eras, And you know,
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Speaker 6: I'm from the boys don't cry era.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm from the that's weak,
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Speaker 2: that's soft.
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Speaker 6: My dad would say numerous amount of times that he
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Speaker 6: don't think a woman could raise a man, but he
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Speaker 6: wouldn't be there, you know what I'm saying, arned out
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Speaker 6: to be. I mean, I can't change oil, change tires
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Speaker 6: and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying, Like
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Speaker 6: somebody might consider some man stuff, but I've cut the
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Speaker 6: grass and done stuff like that, as y'all know recently.
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Speaker 6: So I mean, when I think about it's like he
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Speaker 6: wasn't there to teach me certain things that a man
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Speaker 6: should know. And I learned a lot of things on
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Speaker 6: my own. And you know, he was my first hero.
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Speaker 6: He's my first somebody you look up to, whether he
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Speaker 6: was in constantraate or just me hearing stories about him
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Speaker 6: and me just realizing that that DNA is inside of me.
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Speaker 6: So what I passed that on? I think I broke
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Speaker 6: that that way of thinking. I think it stopped with me.
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Speaker 6: You know, I'm very you know, I'm not lenient to
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Speaker 6: why I'm like, man, you can cry anytime, you won't,
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Speaker 6: But if my son needs to cry about something that's
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Speaker 6: bothered him or hurt and I'm not like getting all
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Speaker 6: over him about it. So I think it's just timing
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Speaker 6: and where we are in life right now. I don't
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Speaker 6: know how you are with your kids, But I'm a
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Speaker 6: little bit more sensitive to my kids, of course than
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Speaker 6: my father was to me, because he wanted me to
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Speaker 6: be tough.
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Speaker 2: He didn't.
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Speaker 6: I hear stories my eyes tell me like if I
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Speaker 6: would cry, he didn't want nobody to pick me up.
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Speaker 2: I don't have Like.
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Speaker 6: It's some baby pictures, but like all my baby pictures,
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Speaker 6: I'm sitting somewhere my mom beside me. She's not like
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Speaker 6: holding me, like you know what I'm saying. Like one
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Speaker 6: of the pictures I remember is like at the beach,
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Speaker 6: I'm sitting on the hood of a car. I'm like
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Speaker 6: not even one, and my mom got on a baby suit.
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Speaker 6: She right beside me. But it's not really like a
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Speaker 6: picture someone colling me or anything. But I mean, I'm
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Speaker 6: okay with that.
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Speaker 8: What did you learn about your own feelings throughout the
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Speaker 8: whole experience with your dad? So being able to spend
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Speaker 8: time with him and him moving in with you, to
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Speaker 8: his passing, because you talk about it very stoically at first,
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Speaker 8: and then you talk up and then you we actually
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Speaker 8: get to hear you talk about finally being able to
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Speaker 8: cry and being able to like kind of get in
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Speaker 8: tune with yourself a bit.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, his last his last few years, I said,
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Speaker 6: I talk about talk talk about it in the book.
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Speaker 2: Excuse me.
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Speaker 6: He's getting out of prison, and you know, he's in
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Speaker 6: his late sixties, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
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Speaker 6: don't know, they might have been seventy something.
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Speaker 2: So when I go get.
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Speaker 6: Him, you know, that's when I had a conversation about, man,
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Speaker 6: you ought to move with me, Like this is just
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Speaker 6: crazy at this point, you know what I'm saying. And
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Speaker 6: the last time he did time, he was probably two
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Speaker 6: or three years. But I just felt like it was time.
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Speaker 2: I had my.
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Speaker 6: First child and I had a house, and so, you know,
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Speaker 6: I remember stopping and getting him. He wanted to suit,
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Speaker 6: and then I remember stopping at a rise and he
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Speaker 6: wanted the phone, and he had some money, he had
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Speaker 6: a little money put up, you know, somewhere, and we
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Speaker 6: just talked and he he said that he would, you know,
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Speaker 6: he would, you know, think about it, and he ended
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Speaker 6: up eventually just you know, staying with me, which was
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Speaker 6: really cool. It was like we started building that relationship.
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Speaker 6: You know, I was so fond of him from a
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Speaker 6: distance because you know, when I was young, we got separated.
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Speaker 6: So just being in the same house, me learning his
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Speaker 6: little crazy ways and his sarcasm and everything. And so
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Speaker 6: you know, after he started getting sick, I was going
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Speaker 6: I was starting at like this was like twenty twelve.
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Speaker 6: My dad died in twenty twelve. My first album came
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Speaker 6: out of twenty twelve. I was just so hot at
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Speaker 6: the time, and so Keisha would tell me, like, man,
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Speaker 6: you know your dad didn't.
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Speaker 2: Eat the day or he needn't do something. She just
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Speaker 2: tell me, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 6: And he was somebody that didn't want nobody to know
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Speaker 6: he was sick. He like such a man, he don't
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Speaker 6: want you to know he going through nothing, which is ridiculous.
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Speaker 6: And he went to the hospital one night. You know
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Speaker 6: what I'm saying. I end up going up there with him.
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Speaker 6: I ended up staying with him. I got it like
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Speaker 6: I just stayed with him for like a week or two,
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And I have shows that
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Speaker 6: I end up counseling. But I had this one particular
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Speaker 6: show in Savannah, which is like, I don't know, a
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Speaker 6: couple hours from Atlanta. And I'm talking to him and
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Speaker 6: I'm like, I got this show in Atlanta. You're gonna
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Speaker 6: be cool tonight. You're like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be cool.
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Speaker 6: And then he says, you know, dope man, my role model.
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Speaker 6: I had a song called dope Man, my role Model
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Speaker 6: my mixtape. So he's so sarcast I'm like, bro, you straight,
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. He gives me a fist
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Speaker 6: bump and says, do it big Apps, that's.
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Speaker 2: Our last name.
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Speaker 6: I said, okay, cool. I go to Savannah. I don't
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Speaker 6: even get the room. I come back when I when
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Speaker 6: I come back here on his breathing thing, I see
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Speaker 6: it like boom, but I see him he like looking
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Speaker 6: at me.
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Speaker 2: I feel like he looking at me, you know what
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Speaker 2: I mean.
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Speaker 6: While he's on his breathing thing, and he keep trying
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Speaker 6: to take the two by the throat and they keep
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Speaker 6: saying like if you if he takes that.
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Speaker 2: Out, he could he could die. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 6: So if he take that out, he can die. Now
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Speaker 6: now rewind this. I just got my part from prison.
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Speaker 6: So they saying the only way that he cannot take
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Speaker 6: it out is if they handcuff him to the bed,
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So I say, okay, handcuff,
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Speaker 6: and then I get to thinking like something is telling me,
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Speaker 6: like he don't want to be handcuffed no more, you
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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So he handcuffed the bed. He
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Speaker 6: looking at me and his shit, you know, he's breathing.
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Speaker 6: And I said, all right, man, you know, take the handcuff.
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Speaker 6: I'll take that and take it off. Man, he don't
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Speaker 6: want to be handcuffed. But soon as the handcuff come off,
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Speaker 6: he come to try to take that, and they tell
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Speaker 6: me if he take it out it could scratch his
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Speaker 6: and so and so I swear to you I do
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Speaker 6: that four times. Okay, put the handcuffs back on, take
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Speaker 6: the handcuffs back off. Put the handcuffs back on them.
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Speaker 6: And it's like he just he's not looking straight home,
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Speaker 6: looking to the side like this, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 6: So I try to hold his hands myself personally, like
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Not chill, you know what I'm saying, Just chill keep.
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Speaker 6: You know, And then you know, a couple of days
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Speaker 6: after that, or not even a day after that. You
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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, that the beets start going off.
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. By me staying with him
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Speaker 6: and the nurses, I'm able to run, go, get the nurse.
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, check it out. And they
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Speaker 6: same thing four times. Boom bom boom they hit them,
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Speaker 6: bring them back.
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Speaker 2: Thank y'all, nurse. They walk out the room.
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Speaker 6: Man, man, look, man, don't you be doing Run out again?
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Speaker 6: Boomom do that the fourth time. Now they put me
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Speaker 6: out the room. So I'm looking through the the little window.
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Speaker 6: And so the fourth time, the lady come out and
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Speaker 6: she says, you know, I lost my father to if
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Speaker 6: he come back now, he'll be brain dead. We already
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Speaker 6: broke two ribs. You just gotta let it go. And
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Speaker 6: I was like, that's easier say it than done, because
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Speaker 6: he just told me. Not only did he tell me
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Speaker 6: do it big, he told me before I went to Savannah,
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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna die no time soon. It came out
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Speaker 6: of his mouth and a he never told him no lot.
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Speaker 6: So I'm like, what happened from the time I went
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Speaker 6: to Savanna came back but anyway, that's something that I
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Speaker 6: wouldn't say haunted or traumatized me. I know you're big
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Speaker 6: on therapy or whatever, and like this book is my therapy,
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Speaker 6: like certain things I do is my therapy. I hadn't
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Speaker 6: actually sat down with someone, and I'm not against people
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Speaker 6: who who do or who have. But is it traumatic
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Speaker 6: seeing your father passed? It could be, yeah, But then
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Speaker 6: like a few years later, I had a son who
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Speaker 6: reminds me so much of like how he moves and
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Speaker 6: his sarcasm as well.
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Speaker 7: So questions based on what you just said, did reliving
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Speaker 7: that for the book make you cry again? Because you
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Speaker 7: said that was the first time you remember.
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Speaker 6: Crying when that man. I cried so hard when that happened.
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Speaker 6: I was listening, I think. I even I'm trying to
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Speaker 6: think about so I might listen to it was a song,
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Speaker 6: but not when I was doing it in the book,
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Speaker 6: because I'm just I didn't. I didn't. I didn't cry
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Speaker 6: while writing the book. I think because I've relived that
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Speaker 6: so many times. It wasn't like I buried it and
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Speaker 6: then just brought it back up like I relived my
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Speaker 6: pots passing in front of me. You know I've done
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Speaker 6: that a few times, so I think and then also
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Speaker 6: I see now me talking about it, it just becomes easier
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Speaker 6: to talk about.
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Speaker 2: You know, when you keep stuff bottle again or whatever.
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Speaker 7: And when you said when Halo was born in the book,
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Speaker 7: you I got to see the picture. That's I just
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Speaker 7: got to see the picture. You said you got the picture.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just trying to ask you.
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Speaker 7: I want to see the picture. You said it was
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Speaker 7: a picture of your father. The alarm went off in that,
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Speaker 7: all right, So don't even tell the story.
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Speaker 1: I show you that.
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Speaker 4: It's hard to discussed this book because it's so much
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Speaker 4: that you want people to read and see for themselves.
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Speaker 7: He just gave away, but it was worth it.
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Speaker 2: So this this picture, all right, we'll explain. All right,
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Speaker 2: So this is.
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Speaker 6: All right, so let's talk about it. So, my son,
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Speaker 6: Halo was born ten fourteen fifteen. Right, Me and Keisha
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Speaker 6: was in the hospital and my mom and my two
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Speaker 6: daughters was at home and they were in our room
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Speaker 6: in the master bedroom. Right, the alarm went off at
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Speaker 6: home while Halo was coming. The alarm went off same time.
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Speaker 6: So why Keisha having Halo the alarm going off?
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Speaker 2: And my mom is.
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Speaker 6: Asking me what's the past word to tell the alarm people,
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Speaker 6: because it's saying motion in the house or whatever. Now
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Speaker 6: my mom is on the phone saying, I swear, and
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Speaker 6: I'm looking at the cameras and I don't see anything
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Speaker 6: coming into the house.
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Speaker 2: I don't see the doors. I'm looking at all the doors.
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Speaker 6: My mom said, I hadn't left the room, so I
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Speaker 6: don't know why the motion going off. I tell of
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Speaker 6: the code it goes off. We have halo, we come home,
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Speaker 6: all right, we're getting our alarm updated. And then Keisha
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Speaker 6: looks at her email. And when you have motion, it
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Speaker 6: takes pictures. It takes snapshots of what the motion is. Okay,
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Speaker 6: when we looked at the motion, you can see you
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Speaker 6: can see somebody. You know what I'm saying, And it
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Speaker 6: was my It was my father. Now my father left
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Speaker 6: in twenty twelve. This was twenty fifteen. You can see
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Speaker 6: an image. So wow, people that I'm close to a
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Speaker 6: couple of friends, I'm close. So I showing a picture.
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Speaker 6: I'm like, who is it? Like, that's part right there.
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Speaker 6: I'm like, look at the date and like my friends
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Speaker 6: begetting big old chill goosebumps or whatever. You know what
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Speaker 6: I'm saying, my father used to walk around the house
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Speaker 6: like with his shirt off.
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Speaker 2: He was in good shape to be seventy. Like. He
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Speaker 2: wasn't like fast and slop. He was in the arm
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Speaker 2: and so he had something.
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Speaker 6: But I'm gonna find and so another thing about this,
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Speaker 6: and this is my personal opinion. He's so sarcastic that
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Speaker 6: when I used to try to show people, I could
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Speaker 6: not find a picture. M hm. So I gave a
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Speaker 6: picture to Keisha. I said, Keisha, when I try to
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Speaker 6: show people, that makes it sound like I'm crazy. I
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Speaker 6: don't have a picture. So we go to Florida one time.
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Speaker 6: I'm not even looking back there. I know she knows
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Speaker 6: I talking about I go to Florida one time. I
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Speaker 6: don't got the picture them. I can't find what happened
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Speaker 6: in Florida. You remember.
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Speaker 8: Whatever?
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Speaker 6: Anyway, anyway, my phone fell in was She probably don't
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Speaker 6: remember this, but she does remember this when I said this.
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Speaker 6: But we was on a boat. We got off a
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Speaker 6: boat and then her phone down there fell in the water.
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Speaker 6: And when my phone fell in the water, I said, damn,
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Speaker 6: that's all. I don't think about the context. I'm like,
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Speaker 6: this is my proof, This is my proof that golds
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Speaker 6: are real or whatever.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Boom.
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Speaker 6: Okay, So I get to looking because I know exactly
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Speaker 6: when the date was, because I know when Halo was born.
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Speaker 6: I pull up the picture again. So now I got it.
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Speaker 6: So I give it to my cousin. I'm always with
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Speaker 6: outside cat. I gave it the cat like cat, you
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Speaker 6: keep this picture?
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Speaker 2: Boom. So this is crazy.
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Speaker 6: So this is I go over the back in the day,
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Speaker 6: I go over to the yate house, right, and I'm telling
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Speaker 6: him the same story. I'm like, Bro, this has happened
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Speaker 6: to me. I'm trying to tell him what happened. And
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Speaker 6: this is man. You know, I'm the coolest player in
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Speaker 6: the world. Man, it's like food around It's like lemonade,
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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So I can't find a picture,
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Speaker 6: So I say, cat, cat with my tither, come in, man,
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Speaker 6: give me the picture of Pops mess. I can show
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Speaker 6: while he giving me the picture. Bro, I'll knock over
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Speaker 6: a big thing of lemonade everywhere on everybody. Like you
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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. I'm such a player. I ain't
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Speaker 6: never done nothing like that, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 6: So in my mind, I'm like bro, this is how
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Speaker 6: my dad is. He like to be on some joking.
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Speaker 6: So you got me looking crazy here. I don't waste
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Speaker 6: lemonade on everybody the table. This ain't even nothing I do,
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean? But anyway, that's another story.
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Speaker 6: Let me find a picture all right right here? Let
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Speaker 6: me see I email myself so at one loute. Okay,
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Speaker 6: this is not why he's looking. Why he's looking at
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Speaker 6: the picture?
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Speaker 3: The book on to change dot com. You have a
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Speaker 3: chance to win.
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Speaker 6: Courts to change book to change book dot com. To
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Speaker 6: change book, go to changebook dot com. I do gotta
16:15
Speaker 6: sweepstakes for people. They can sit next to me at
16:17
Speaker 6: a Hawks game. Yeah you know, uh, of course that
16:21
Speaker 6: I'm very close. I come in through the owner's lounge.
16:23
Speaker 6: It's a whole experience. I do have this little uh
16:28
Speaker 6: side note this disclaimer. Women, I'm gonna be smelling good.
16:33
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be looking good. If you have a crazy
16:35
Speaker 6: man at home, articulate that to him. Men, I'm not
16:42
Speaker 6: gonna be talking through the whole game. Right, we can talk,
16:47
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna really be watching the game.
16:48
Speaker 1: A rapper win. I hope somebody trying to make it.
16:51
Speaker 9: Trying to like you. You sing all your songs the
16:56
Speaker 9: whole time.
16:57
Speaker 2: Can you get that picture because you know I'm trying
16:59
Speaker 2: to show them and you know what's going up? Hop
17:02
Speaker 2: up if you see anything?
17:13
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I see something.
17:13
Speaker 2: In the picture.
17:14
Speaker 10: Can wait only.
17:18
Speaker 2: Ye m hm.
17:20
Speaker 10: So question for your.
17:22
Speaker 3: Charlamagne believe you by the way, but you can see
17:24
Speaker 3: Charlemagne face.
17:25
Speaker 2: You know I ain't.
17:26
Speaker 3: But the reason that because that happened to him in
17:27
Speaker 3: Prince he took.
17:30
Speaker 1: This is a spirit.
17:33
Speaker 3: He took a picture and the picture I want to are.
17:35
Speaker 10: You okay what I've seen it? Okay? Oh wow, that's
17:39
Speaker 10: a whole person.
17:40
Speaker 1: Yes, I thought.
17:41
Speaker 6: It was going to be like not how you used
17:44
Speaker 6: to walk around the shirt walking that's him walking through
17:47
Speaker 6: the kitchen.
17:47
Speaker 3: Wow.
17:48
Speaker 8: I know you're saying the book too that you feel like,
17:50
Speaker 8: until you had your son, your dad hadn't like crossed
17:53
Speaker 8: over to the other side.
17:54
Speaker 2: That's my assumption, right, this is my mom.
17:55
Speaker 6: My mom is super, super spiritual, right, so she was
17:58
Speaker 6: probably like, you know, like he probably come to fuck
18:01
Speaker 6: with me before, you know what I mean, probably coming
18:03
Speaker 6: over to the fuck with me just you know what
18:04
Speaker 6: I mean.
18:05
Speaker 2: That's how she kicked the light before he left. But
18:07
Speaker 2: so the.
18:08
Speaker 8: Voices that you were hearing there because I know you
18:09
Speaker 8: have been hearing voices in your head and hearing God
18:11
Speaker 8: for a long time. Do you know which ones might
18:13
Speaker 8: have been your Dad because he was there with you,
18:15
Speaker 8: or it was the God connection that you haven't you
18:18
Speaker 8: hear in God during that word.
18:19
Speaker 6: So this experience right here, when this happened, this would
18:24
Speaker 6: have been twenty fifteen. I'm not even sure if I
18:27
Speaker 6: was fully committed to just given the voice. It's credit
18:35
Speaker 6: for my success. Now, That's why I said when he
18:38
Speaker 6: asked me when it's timeing to write a book, It's
18:39
Speaker 6: like I've lived and had enough experience in trial and
18:42
Speaker 6: error with listening not listening, moving through fear, moving through
18:46
Speaker 6: ego to let you know, like this voice, it got
18:50
Speaker 6: to be God. The reason I call it the voice
18:53
Speaker 6: of God because the voice would be like my intuition,
18:55
Speaker 6: it would be my my my alignment. You know what
18:59
Speaker 6: I'm saying that that's what the voice. But when I
19:01
Speaker 6: say God, I know everybody's not into God. But I
19:04
Speaker 6: had to give the credit to somebody higher than myself.
19:08
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, for this superpower, whatever the
19:10
Speaker 6: hell like for me, I got a real picture of
19:13
Speaker 6: my dad three years after he passed. Like, this is
19:15
Speaker 6: not something and I don't. It's my first time ever
19:18
Speaker 6: ever talking about it, feeling comfortable talking about it, showing
19:22
Speaker 6: somebody that I feel like is understands like a deeper
19:27
Speaker 6: mean of like spirits and everything, like because I don't
19:30
Speaker 6: fully understand.
19:32
Speaker 2: My father.
19:34
Speaker 6: You know, you see they be like people come to
19:36
Speaker 6: you in dreams, people you know, do stuff like that.
19:39
Speaker 6: I can't say that he did that, you know what
19:42
Speaker 6: I'm saying, But I can tell you that I do
19:44
Speaker 6: have a divine guidance in me that helps me make decisions,
19:50
Speaker 6: whether it's business decisions, relationship decisions, whatever it is. And
19:55
Speaker 6: it's a voice that could probably be too noisy to
19:58
Speaker 6: certain people, but I welcome that voice. So this book
20:04
Speaker 6: is I put this book together to help somebody and
20:08
Speaker 6: to motivate somebody to shut down the outside noise. And
20:11
Speaker 6: this is also for anybody who's ever said like something
20:14
Speaker 6: told me, like something told me to get this job,
20:16
Speaker 6: wear this hat, or whatever it is. It's like it's
20:19
Speaker 6: that something told me thing. You know what I'm saying
20:21
Speaker 6: is that or something told me don't go to this
20:24
Speaker 6: place and this happened, something told me don't whatever it is,
20:27
Speaker 6: you know, and we've all said that when we missed
20:28
Speaker 6: the flight, Well that's God trying to Maybe I wasn't
20:31
Speaker 6: supposed to get on it, you know what I mean.
20:33
Speaker 6: So why can't that inner dialogue be that? Why if
20:37
Speaker 6: they say God is inside of you, and why can't
20:39
Speaker 6: your blessings come from within on how you are on
20:42
Speaker 6: the surface, you're a positive person on the surface, then
20:45
Speaker 6: your blessings coming with this is my experience, this is
20:48
Speaker 6: my opinion.
20:48
Speaker 4: So what do you trust that voice though? Because you
20:50
Speaker 4: talk about in the book many times when you didn't
20:52
Speaker 4: trust that voice. You heard it and you were like, nah.
20:55
Speaker 6: You got to be you got to go through the
20:57
Speaker 6: experience right to see, like what was.
20:59
Speaker 3: That for you that said I need to start trusting
21:02
Speaker 3: his voice.
21:05
Speaker 6: I don't want to use like a tragic experience experience,
21:12
Speaker 6: but like the voice comes before something happens, right, So
21:16
Speaker 6: it's hard to like pay at attention because you don't
21:20
Speaker 6: know what's about to happen.
21:21
Speaker 2: Alabama, you know what I'm saying.
21:22
Speaker 6: Alabama, my Cali experience, these different experiences that I had,
21:26
Speaker 6: I felt something I did, I put this on everything
21:28
Speaker 6: I felt something something told me, you know what I'm saying,
21:32
Speaker 6: but you don't have.
21:33
Speaker 2: A crystal ball in order to see it.
21:35
Speaker 6: So that's why I'm using all these experiences in the
21:39
Speaker 6: book to tell you, like how I listen and maybe
21:42
Speaker 6: then fully you know what I mean, not just what
21:45
Speaker 6: was going on or when I did, and that positive
21:48
Speaker 6: outcomes that came from them. You know, I woke up
21:51
Speaker 6: sometimes to be like something told I need to do
21:53
Speaker 6: this today.
21:53
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I do that a lot.
21:54
Speaker 6: Actually, you know what I mean, And it's just a
21:58
Speaker 6: message I'm just trying to bring the people.
22:00
Speaker 7: The book is about God and you first recognized in
22:02
Speaker 7: that voice, But to me, it's also a.
22:03
Speaker 1: Love letter to your mom and your pop.
22:05
Speaker 7: So so when did you first recognize God in them?
22:10
Speaker 2: Mom?
22:12
Speaker 6: Church going, still go, just went yesterday, Mom went yesterday.
22:16
Speaker 6: I checked on her, uh my part. When he was
22:19
Speaker 6: in prison, he wrote which is which helped me come up.
22:21
Speaker 2: With the title too.
22:22
Speaker 6: He used to write God is Love on the back
22:24
Speaker 6: of his prison letters, and one day I took the
22:26
Speaker 6: got the ears out and I put an equal sign
22:29
Speaker 6: like God he is Love. So I was like, it
22:33
Speaker 6: just made so much sense to me because if it's
22:35
Speaker 6: love there, then it's God there. That's what I think.
22:37
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, And it was hey, there,
22:39
Speaker 6: then I can't be God. And that's how I decipher
22:41
Speaker 6: what that voice was. So yeah, I've had that that
22:44
Speaker 6: kind of spiritual upbringing, like i'm'a. I'm'a. I'm from a
22:47
Speaker 6: praying family. You know what I'm saying. I encourage my
22:49
Speaker 6: kids to pray, So it's something I believe in and
22:53
Speaker 6: I talk. I pray before my show, I pray before
22:55
Speaker 6: I rap at night.
22:56
Speaker 2: Bruh.
22:56
Speaker 6: I just you know what I'm saying. I just be
22:58
Speaker 6: praying sometime. I be praying on stage when I'm killing it.
23:01
Speaker 6: I look up, man, think you know, think, man, you
23:04
Speaker 6: ain't nobody you know what I mean, because it's just
23:07
Speaker 6: a certain or you get when you when you tapped in,
23:09
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
23:10
Speaker 5: And you said you always wanted to write a book.
23:12
Speaker 5: Did you think that it would be this?
23:14
Speaker 2: No?
23:15
Speaker 6: No, But you know most artists they do an autobiography
23:18
Speaker 6: and then they talk about how they have nothing to eat.
23:21
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
23:26
Speaker 6: Artists are the poorest. You know what I'm saying, nothing,
23:30
Speaker 6: no education, no nothing, no. I finished high school. I
23:34
Speaker 6: have a college degree. I don't be on none of that,
23:36
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And I still have my
23:38
Speaker 6: struggles that I deal with, and so when it was
23:41
Speaker 6: time for me to do the book, I wanted to
23:44
Speaker 6: be in my own lane like I do with anything else.
23:46
Speaker 6: If you all noticed, I don't following over really no trends.
23:49
Speaker 6: I'm so comfortable in my skin, it's it's scary sometimes.
23:54
Speaker 7: M I know you said you don't need therapy, but
23:58
Speaker 7: you've been in some real life, ramatic situations like you
24:01
Speaker 7: just named two of Alabama, the Cali one. I didn't
24:03
Speaker 7: even know it went to that where he was standing
24:07
Speaker 7: over you and all of that. I don't know why
24:08
Speaker 7: I never've heard that part of the story. But it's
24:10
Speaker 7: any out of that impact the way you move.
24:12
Speaker 1: Like now, well.
24:15
Speaker 6: You know now I'm gonna say something cliche. I mean,
24:18
Speaker 6: it's some here for a Reese. You know what I'm saying.
24:19
Speaker 2: That's something, But it really does though.
24:23
Speaker 6: Like I'm in my forties, just got my physical a
24:27
Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago, no cholesterol, diabetes, hot blood pressure,
24:34
Speaker 6: work out three times a week, at you games a
24:37
Speaker 6: rapid night, I eat healthy, drink a lot of water,
24:40
Speaker 6: don't get enough sleep, But that's like something I can
24:43
Speaker 6: work on. But you know, I'm just you know, I'm
24:51
Speaker 6: in a I'm in a good I'm in a good place.
24:56
Speaker 2: I'm happy. Man.
24:57
Speaker 1: No PTSD, no stress, no, no.
25:00
Speaker 6: Not that I know of, Like, I don't have any.
25:02
Speaker 6: Like I did take psychology in college, so and I
25:06
Speaker 6: loved it. Like when I got in psychology, it wasn't
25:09
Speaker 6: even my major. I remember changing to the major life
25:12
Speaker 6: maybe like I remember finding out something about myself studying
25:16
Speaker 6: the actual course, you know what I'm saying.
25:18
Speaker 2: And so with me.
25:22
Speaker 6: The therapy aspect, you know, I do have like some
25:28
Speaker 6: little triggers. I do have triggers, but I want to
25:31
Speaker 6: say I'm kind of conscious of them, and I'll probably be.
25:33
Speaker 6: I'm probably doing some self evaluation, you know what I mean.
25:37
Speaker 6: I hadn't sat down and really liked kicked it off.
25:39
Speaker 2: I don't know.
25:40
Speaker 6: I'm not against therapy though, I'm not against therapy. But
25:42
Speaker 6: I have went through things and I've gotten over them
25:44
Speaker 6: and I've moved on. And I went through some dramatic
25:47
Speaker 6: stuff too. But I just feel like God, when you
25:50
Speaker 6: I feel, I believe so much in God that I
25:52
Speaker 6: just didn't didn't let that hold me back. I didn't
25:54
Speaker 6: let it bring me PTSD. I ain't like, man, you
25:56
Speaker 6: know what happened to me. I'm crazy, Like I ain't.
26:01
Speaker 6: People need excuses to be you know, man, you don't
26:05
Speaker 6: even know man, I was, you know, and I ain't
26:07
Speaker 6: on that.
26:08
Speaker 9: You know, I know that you see that you're deeply
26:10
Speaker 9: grounded in family. Came here with your family. How did
26:13
Speaker 9: you know that your wife, Keisha was the person that
26:16
Speaker 9: got intended for you?
26:17
Speaker 2: Something told me, something told me she was the one key.
26:21
Speaker 2: She used to write.
26:22
Speaker 6: She still does, but she you know, I said this time,
26:24
Speaker 6: she used to go to church and she used to
26:25
Speaker 6: write notes, and I was like, okay, and like real
26:29
Speaker 6: life then the powerpoints type of stuff of like what
26:33
Speaker 6: they was talking about the church. So I liked that
26:35
Speaker 6: she was God fear and I liked that she was
26:37
Speaker 6: just a natural beautiful woman inside and out. And you know,
26:42
Speaker 6: having somebody like that in the industry, it's like or
26:45
Speaker 6: being in the industry and having you know, somebody that
26:48
Speaker 6: you care about, it is like not the easiest thing
26:49
Speaker 6: to navigate. So you got to just you know, for me,
26:53
Speaker 6: just keep on the pedestal. Let let her know that
26:55
Speaker 6: she she is mine, She's the one point.
26:58
Speaker 7: How do you separate the vine and guidance from just
27:01
Speaker 7: wanting something really bad?
27:03
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
27:08
Speaker 5: My question is easier than that.
27:11
Speaker 6: You ain't what the heck you're working though you're getting
27:13
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, but but it's sty good the divine God.
27:19
Speaker 2: Keep going, keep working, you know when people do look
27:25
Speaker 2: at your paper, Just keep going.
27:26
Speaker 6: You almost finished the divine guidance aspect. Or if you
27:32
Speaker 6: just want something? So, if you just want something really bad,
27:35
Speaker 6: is that are you saying? Like manifesting something?
27:38
Speaker 7: You know you have a you have something in your
27:39
Speaker 7: mind that you want, like I want this goal, I
27:42
Speaker 7: want to accomplishment, accomplish it. But that don't mean that's what
27:44
Speaker 7: God wants you to be doing.
27:50
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
27:53
Speaker 6: I believe in speaking things into AI do I believe
27:56
Speaker 6: in manifestation. Now, if you want to do something that
27:59
Speaker 6: don't got love, and I believe like he don't got
28:01
Speaker 6: nothing to do with I say, God is love. God
28:04
Speaker 6: equals love. So you might want to be on some
28:06
Speaker 6: that ain't got nothing to do with love, and he
28:08
Speaker 6: not going to answer the phone for that. But if
28:11
Speaker 6: you want something and they got love attached to it too.
28:14
Speaker 6: I think he'll answer and listen. I mean, you already
28:17
Speaker 6: know what's going on. So that's my personal because I
28:19
Speaker 6: have one of some of them. Another thing is we
28:21
Speaker 6: have to teach some of the youth the difference between
28:24
Speaker 6: needs and wants. I think they got it, like some
28:26
Speaker 6: of it confused, you know what I'm saying. And it's
28:28
Speaker 6: a difference.
28:28
Speaker 8: So how have you always because every interview I watched
28:31
Speaker 8: you and I know we talked that culture kind before too.
28:33
Speaker 2: I feel that that was good.
28:34
Speaker 10: Thank you, no, thank you.
28:36
Speaker 8: I feel like every time I listen to you speak,
28:38
Speaker 8: even when you were younger, it seems like you always
28:40
Speaker 8: understood the difference between your needs and your wants and
28:43
Speaker 8: separated the two.
28:45
Speaker 10: How did you have that so young?
28:47
Speaker 8: Like doing so many different things from college to being
28:50
Speaker 8: in streets.
28:51
Speaker 6: Like so, I'm going to tell you another pop story.
28:53
Speaker 6: So Pop, my pop used to go in the store.
28:56
Speaker 6: He used to steal, and then he used to get
28:59
Speaker 6: mad at me because he would just stop abruptly, and
29:02
Speaker 6: then I would hit him in the back of the
29:03
Speaker 6: achilles with like the buggy. When I him in the
29:06
Speaker 6: back of the leg with the buget, heud get mad
29:08
Speaker 6: as hell, he'd like. And so then I'll get like
29:10
Speaker 6: thirty feet away from him, and then we're getting the
29:12
Speaker 6: car and he'll start taking stuff like out his sock,
29:16
Speaker 6: he would, you know, the long socking.
29:17
Speaker 2: He puts stuff on his jean.
29:19
Speaker 6: And then he told me, he said, he told me, kids,
29:27
Speaker 6: don't listen to me or my pops on this, because
29:29
Speaker 6: now I listen to it don't make sense, But he said, steal,
29:33
Speaker 6: steal what you need, not what you want. And so
29:37
Speaker 6: he was going to the store and steal like things
29:41
Speaker 6: that he felt like we need for the house, whether
29:42
Speaker 6: it was.
29:44
Speaker 2: Taller trees or whatever it was.
29:46
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, It'll be that it wouldn't
29:47
Speaker 6: be like snacks or or gum or nothing like that.
29:51
Speaker 1: And that makes perfect sense to me.
29:54
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you don't want people to think, man, I
29:56
Speaker 6: need this watch, you know what I'm saying, Because that's
29:57
Speaker 6: why I say, they don't know what needs.
29:59
Speaker 2: And wants are.
30:00
Speaker 6: But my pop, so for a long time, I used
30:03
Speaker 6: to steal stuff, you know, but I would stand in
30:06
Speaker 6: line with a pack of gum on everything I love.
30:08
Speaker 6: I'll just be like, I'll just be waiting to pay
30:10
Speaker 6: for the gum. You know what I'm saying. But if
30:11
Speaker 6: it was something I needed, I already had it home.
30:13
Speaker 6: Like I really need this, I take that and couldn't
30:15
Speaker 6: afford it, I would take it.
30:17
Speaker 3: You think reading the book, right, do you think God
30:21
Speaker 3: gave you the plugs?
30:28
Speaker 1: You in the traffick?
30:31
Speaker 4: You think God gave you read it? He was like
30:33
Speaker 4: it was a blessing that got the plug. God gave
30:35
Speaker 4: me this plug.
30:35
Speaker 3: I'm like, your.
30:37
Speaker 6: Plug could be how have you got this job? Whatever
30:40
Speaker 6: you know about that got opening up so many doors
30:44
Speaker 6: for me. But yes, how I got it. And so
30:46
Speaker 6: many people that do what I do never had a plug,
30:48
Speaker 6: and they'll tell you how miserable their hustling experience was.
30:52
Speaker 6: Once you get somebody that you can call. And this
30:55
Speaker 6: is just once again, this is my These are my theories, right,
30:58
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. But I I'm not looking
31:01
Speaker 6: for a plug. I find this guy that essentially helped
31:04
Speaker 6: change the way I was moving and living up to now.
31:08
Speaker 1: It was a little finesse in one of your plugs.
31:09
Speaker 6: Now, yeah it was a little little Yeah that was finesse. Yes,
31:14
Speaker 6: that was finesse, but it was it was It was
31:17
Speaker 6: a sign of intelligence too. It was the signs of intelligence, right,
31:24
Speaker 6: because I'm able to I'm hearing what's going on, and
31:28
Speaker 6: I know how important it is to have one because
31:30
Speaker 6: I don't. At this point, I already had a plug,
31:31
Speaker 6: so I'm hearing like so, I'm like, so I didn't
31:35
Speaker 6: even take buddy plug. That's just kind of like would
31:38
Speaker 6: come in the street. I never was like a person
31:41
Speaker 6: that robbed anybody.
31:44
Speaker 1: I won't say this.
31:45
Speaker 7: The reason I do agree with him when he said
31:47
Speaker 7: for him, for him because he was the weed man.
31:51
Speaker 1: We man different than like the other guy that's telling
31:53
Speaker 1: the hardship.
31:54
Speaker 2: We man.
31:54
Speaker 6: Weed brings you love, you know, yea weed man man,
31:58
Speaker 6: and you know how it is you.
32:01
Speaker 2: I mean, you get a feature. I was smoking.
32:04
Speaker 6: We were then artist when you're coming up when you
32:06
Speaker 6: smoke like man, it's pretty good. Let's wrap you know,
32:09
Speaker 6: things canna happen man.
32:10
Speaker 2: You know.
32:11
Speaker 6: So it helped me out tremendously. I got some of
32:14
Speaker 6: my stuff may sound really really off, but if you
32:18
Speaker 6: just if I have Charlemagne with me, he'll help you.
32:23
Speaker 1: I read.
32:23
Speaker 3: I'm like, God gave me the plug, Like.
32:25
Speaker 1: Well, he was the weed man. That's the difference.
32:28
Speaker 2: A man different when you got.
32:30
Speaker 8: That everybody has those experiences though, where you're like, yo,
32:34
Speaker 8: if I had to talk about this again, nobody would
32:35
Speaker 8: be But I think that's favor too. Like I was
32:38
Speaker 8: watching a sermon yesterday and Pastor Mike, like Junior, he
32:41
Speaker 8: was saying, you're yes to God breaks cycles and then
32:44
Speaker 8: that comes with a whole level of divine favor that like,
32:46
Speaker 8: you couldn't even explain it to people and the feeling
32:48
Speaker 8: of it if you try to. And a lot of
32:50
Speaker 8: your story is that it's like you have this personal
32:52
Speaker 8: one on one that like we would never really get.
32:54
Speaker 10: It's funny to hear.
32:55
Speaker 6: But the story about my dad Cross, No, it's something
33:00
Speaker 6: I never knew how to even tell nobody. You had
33:03
Speaker 6: to be like I probably told eight people my whole life,
33:07
Speaker 6: and this happened in twenty fifteen. I just showed my
33:09
Speaker 6: kids recently because I thought that they would be you
33:12
Speaker 6: know ready.
33:12
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, but.
33:17
Speaker 1: You even named all your kids something spiritual.
33:19
Speaker 6: Well, Keisha started off she named our first baby Heaven.
33:22
Speaker 6: She named the first two Heaven Harmony, and then I
33:25
Speaker 6: came with the halo.
33:27
Speaker 2: I sprinkled that south side. That's fine.
33:32
Speaker 7: How has emotional maturity changed the way you hear that
33:35
Speaker 7: inner voice, that.
33:36
Speaker 2: Emotional maturity change.
33:38
Speaker 6: How I hear the inner voice, my emotional maturity change,
33:41
Speaker 6: how I hear uh oh, yeah, I can answer that.
33:49
Speaker 6: So my emotional maturity changed. How I had the inner
33:52
Speaker 6: voice because I'm able to want one decipher if it's
33:58
Speaker 6: love or hate, because cause we all got a fucking
34:01
Speaker 6: voice too. We all got a voice that we've all
34:03
Speaker 6: said fucking and done and done some things, and some
34:06
Speaker 6: it sometimes came back to bite us in the button
34:08
Speaker 6: sometimes it happened. But right now, I think with the
34:11
Speaker 6: emotional intelligence, it comes with it comes with growth, it
34:14
Speaker 6: comes with age, and it comes with experience, right and
34:16
Speaker 6: it just comes with life. It comes with life situations,
34:18
Speaker 6: it comes with life choices. And so for some of
34:21
Speaker 6: the things that I touched on in this book, you
34:23
Speaker 6: literally have to live long enough. Like this book can't
34:26
Speaker 6: be written by a teenager or somebody in their twenties.
34:29
Speaker 6: This is my personal opinion. This book is like experience based.
34:33
Speaker 6: At the same time, I'm just not running off some
34:35
Speaker 6: ideas and stuff like this. This is this is stuff
34:38
Speaker 6: that you know I've been through, or someone that's been through,
34:43
Speaker 6: or you know something, and there was a voice there
34:46
Speaker 6: it was a voice there during all of these situations.
34:51
Speaker 7: Has there ever been a time where that voice led
34:53
Speaker 7: you somewhere painful?
34:54
Speaker 1: But you but you realized it was necessary.
34:56
Speaker 7: And I don't mean by not listening to it, like
34:58
Speaker 7: you actually listen to it in this still let you somewhere.
35:00
Speaker 1: Where you was like, it's not what I thought was
35:03
Speaker 1: gonna happen.
35:04
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
35:05
Speaker 6: When I listened to my voice, I have listen, bro,
35:08
Speaker 6: this is This is how insane it is. I listened
35:10
Speaker 6: to it. It'll tell me what time to go to
35:13
Speaker 6: the gym, tell me what time to lead to go
35:15
Speaker 6: get my son. They'll tell me what right, what route
35:17
Speaker 6: to take him. It'll tell me what tell me what
35:23
Speaker 6: we need to eat, what he needs to eat. It'll
35:26
Speaker 6: tell me what route to go home. I can go
35:29
Speaker 6: home three or four different ways. They tell me that man,
35:31
Speaker 6: don't go that way, Man go this way. Man. And
35:33
Speaker 6: and this has been happening for a long time, but
35:36
Speaker 6: I ain' used to pay no attention. Util I ran
35:37
Speaker 6: into a road block and you'd be like, oh, man,
35:39
Speaker 6: I know I shouldn't have came this way.
35:40
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But this was early on
35:41
Speaker 2: when I was maneuvern.
35:42
Speaker 6: But the voice is something that I that I hear
35:51
Speaker 6: a lot that it was hard for me to really
35:55
Speaker 6: articulate without saying I had an imaginary friend of something
36:00
Speaker 6: like that when I'm sitting in the corner and I'm
36:01
Speaker 6: going back and forth and I'm ide eight between me
36:03
Speaker 6: and my voice. But I think it was very important
36:07
Speaker 6: at this time for me to write this literature because
36:10
Speaker 6: I feel like it's gonna help if it helps one person,
36:13
Speaker 6: which I've already received multiple text messages from people who
36:16
Speaker 6: got advanced copies on the voice in their head and
36:21
Speaker 6: the something told me and them listening more closely. So
36:25
Speaker 6: that's what this is for. That's why the timing is for.
36:29
Speaker 6: You know, I've been in front of you guys many
36:31
Speaker 6: a times talking about many of different projects, but I
36:34
Speaker 6: just keep going into my creative bag coming up with
36:37
Speaker 6: something that I think can help my community. This is
36:39
Speaker 6: like a community outreach project. This is for my community. Bro,
36:42
Speaker 6: It's like this for my community. People give away turkeys,
36:45
Speaker 6: people do all kinds of stuff. This book is for
36:48
Speaker 6: my community. I feel like I've been just holding on
36:51
Speaker 6: hoarding like this secret, sauce, this secret like man Tony,
36:55
Speaker 6: how you keep I got partner, Man, how you keep man,
36:57
Speaker 6: what I'm telling you, man, try try try, try, just try,
37:03
Speaker 6: just try try two weeks, like, just try.
37:06
Speaker 3: Did you really think you were Michael Jackson mm hmm.
37:09
Speaker 2: I was just messing with my mama. My mama, My mama.
37:12
Speaker 6: Got she she she been with my daddy this whole time,
37:14
Speaker 6: so she knows sarcasm, right. So I had, you know,
37:19
Speaker 6: I broke my broke my elbow and my knee. But
37:22
Speaker 6: they put my they'll just put me to sleep, apop
37:24
Speaker 6: my elbow back in place.
37:25
Speaker 2: Boom.
37:25
Speaker 6: And it's on her birthday. She done left her birthday
37:27
Speaker 6: party being in the hospital with me. So I'm coming
37:29
Speaker 6: up out of the anesthesia and they're like, miss you okay,
37:32
Speaker 6: missed up, You're okay.
37:33
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, mister up.
37:36
Speaker 6: And I kind of look over. I look over there,
37:38
Speaker 6: I see you my mom. I see my mom, Like
37:40
Speaker 6: you're okay, and like yeah, like, what's your name? Say
37:43
Speaker 6: your whole name? I said, Michael Jackson. She said, I'm
37:50
Speaker 6: getting an up. She got up and left. Man, I
37:54
Speaker 6: don't know, I don't know, man. I'm an optimistic person. Man,
37:58
Speaker 6: I'm just optimistic if something bad happened, me, I just
38:01
Speaker 6: I turn it over. I just try to find the good.
38:03
Speaker 6: And it's some good in here somewhere. It got to be,
38:05
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
38:06
Speaker 7: You talk about rebranding and reinvention a lot in the book,
38:09
Speaker 7: like do you ever worry that when you are constantly
38:11
Speaker 7: evolving can disconnect you from your from your core.
38:15
Speaker 2: No, you have to do that, You have to. I
38:16
Speaker 2: have to.
38:17
Speaker 6: I'm showing people, but I'm not like being preachy when
38:19
Speaker 6: I'm showing people how to move and how businesses move.
38:21
Speaker 6: If you look up McDonald's sprites, everybody rebrands. They don't
38:25
Speaker 6: exactly change their name, but they rebrand, they change the arts,
38:27
Speaker 6: they do something they you know what I mean. And
38:29
Speaker 6: so for me, I'm a business. Two change is a
38:31
Speaker 6: brand and I have a new logo. I got a
38:33
Speaker 6: new logo. I'm about to launch, you know, this week
38:36
Speaker 6: or next week. So for me, you know, I've been
38:38
Speaker 6: too changed. Titty Boy met Tony and Janie's son, I'm hell,
38:41
Speaker 6: we've killer. But I mean I'm looking at other successful
38:44
Speaker 6: people that pull this stuff before. I mean, I know
38:47
Speaker 6: Jay has a couple of names. A couple people I
38:50
Speaker 6: know have a couple of names and it's just like
38:53
Speaker 6: a part of me. I'm also giving that knowledge. I
38:56
Speaker 6: was like, man, I got some game, and sometimes this
38:58
Speaker 6: book is a way to spread it to the masses
38:59
Speaker 6: and instead of just talking to one individual. So I
39:02
Speaker 6: think it's important that you know a lot of people
39:04
Speaker 6: be like man. You know, I've had artists asked me
39:06
Speaker 6: should they changed their name? You know what I'm saying,
39:07
Speaker 6: Should I change my name? Like I know you did it, bro,
39:09
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, and stuff like that. So
39:11
Speaker 6: it's whatever works for you. But I think it's important
39:13
Speaker 6: that you you revisit your brand every three to five years.
39:19
Speaker 6: Three to five years, that's mine. I go in there
39:21
Speaker 6: and I see what I can tweet, turn do whatever.
39:24
Speaker 7: I love the book man, because you make you make ambition.
39:28
Speaker 7: You look at it as something spiritual, like I think
39:31
Speaker 7: sometimes people have this this hunger and they dress it
39:34
Speaker 7: up as faith. But like to me, you actually approach
39:38
Speaker 7: ambition as something spiritual.
39:41
Speaker 6: Can we can't. You can't buy ambition. You can't go
39:46
Speaker 6: to Amazon. You lazy. You need some take something to
39:50
Speaker 6: give you. You taking something to get you injured. But
39:53
Speaker 6: that ain't the ambition, you know what I'm saying. I
39:56
Speaker 6: got that I got the self motivation.
39:58
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
39:58
Speaker 6: I the boys starts there, anybody to get your ass up.
40:02
Speaker 6: You ain't got no big home, You ain't got nobody's
40:04
Speaker 6: gonna do this for you. Ain't got no friend you
40:05
Speaker 6: can call on. You ain't got nobody, So like it
40:08
Speaker 6: all falls on me. So yeah, I'm operating and definitely
40:12
Speaker 6: in that space.
40:14
Speaker 7: The one thing I wanted you to talk about in
40:15
Speaker 7: the book is why you chose Alabama because over South
40:18
Speaker 7: Carolina State.
40:20
Speaker 3: Did you talk about it in the book.
40:21
Speaker 6: No, So I got recruited by South Carolina South Carolina State.
40:25
Speaker 6: I was going to Memphis. When I got I was
40:27
Speaker 6: going to Memphis. That's what I was gonna commit to.
40:28
Speaker 6: I like Memphis because Penny Hardaway had went there. I
40:31
Speaker 6: was like this little skinny, scrowny point guard, two guard,
40:35
Speaker 6: and I just wanted to just following those steps. So
40:39
Speaker 6: when I got locked up in high school, Alabama State
40:43
Speaker 6: was the first school they called me.
40:44
Speaker 2: They got in touch with me. They called me.
40:46
Speaker 6: They were very like, you know, compassionate about what I
40:51
Speaker 6: went through, and they offered me a full ride scholarship.
40:53
Speaker 6: I already had the grades. They offered me a full
40:56
Speaker 6: ride scholarship. And they also I had peers that went
41:00
Speaker 6: down there from my school life, so I knew some
41:02
Speaker 6: knew some kids down there. It was two hours from
41:04
Speaker 6: the house. And you know in the book, first chapter two,
41:09
Speaker 6: I went down there playing. I went down to the
41:10
Speaker 6: plane when I first went down there, at them you
41:12
Speaker 6: know the Alabama boy they show they see it being
41:15
Speaker 6: and I ended up going down there, and then I
41:18
Speaker 6: lost my love for basketball the same year I went
41:21
Speaker 6: down there because the coaches that called me and they
41:24
Speaker 6: were so excited about having the opportunity to work with me,
41:26
Speaker 6: they got fired. New coaches came in, New coaches came in,
41:30
Speaker 6: they brought players in, and then I just remember my
41:34
Speaker 6: passion for hooping starting to diminish, because at this point
41:37
Speaker 6: I still wasn't like rapping or anything.
41:38
Speaker 2: I was just like trapping and hooping.
41:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, because in the.
41:41
Speaker 4: Book, I thought you said that in the book because
41:43
Speaker 4: you said it was somebody knew down there and it
41:45
Speaker 4: was close to the close to the crib, and you
41:47
Speaker 4: said you started playing ball, and then what really turned
41:50
Speaker 4: you on You said it was when the flood happened.
41:53
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. My dorm, well my
41:56
Speaker 6: dorm flooded. But that just made me get a spot
41:59
Speaker 6: off campus. You know, I still was dealing in the
42:02
Speaker 6: parameters of a student athlete. I still was I was
42:05
Speaker 6: I was going to class, you know, I was going
42:07
Speaker 6: to class. I was doing everything. I just I'm already
42:10
Speaker 6: living a certain lifestyle. I'm already got a little hustle
42:13
Speaker 6: going I go down there. I got three cars already.
42:14
Speaker 6: I'm literally driving a different car Monday, Wednesday, and Friday,
42:17
Speaker 6: just because I can. I'm on that type of time
42:19
Speaker 6: and so but I'm I'm a I'm a learning junkie too.
42:23
Speaker 6: I love to learn even now I love I mean,
42:26
Speaker 6: learning is so fast right now, is insane, you know
42:28
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, like trying to learn what's going on
42:30
Speaker 6: in the words. But you know, originally meant I enjoyed
42:33
Speaker 6: learning new information. I just you know what I mean,
42:35
Speaker 6: I love it. So it was never a situation where
42:37
Speaker 6: I if I wasn't on campus, I wasn't gonna go
42:39
Speaker 6: to school. I still was going to handle my responsibility.
42:41
Speaker 6: So I just talk about that in the books as wonder,
42:44
Speaker 6: and that's that's one of the things that push me
42:46
Speaker 6: into being independent too. You go to college, you know,
42:49
Speaker 6: you stay on campus. Then when you get your crib off,
42:52
Speaker 6: this is your first home. This is your crib.
42:54
Speaker 2: You know, you start becoming like, you know, a grown up.
42:57
Speaker 1: You would met your queen either if you didn't go down.
42:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah true.
43:01
Speaker 7: My last question, if that voice in your head told
43:03
Speaker 7: you to walk away from rap tomorrow.
43:06
Speaker 1: Would you listen.
43:07
Speaker 6: That's a great question because I love rap music so
43:10
Speaker 6: much and I feel like, you know, I love it.
43:12
Speaker 6: He wouldn't do He wouldn't do that, you know what
43:14
Speaker 6: I'm saying. I love it, and one of the things
43:16
Speaker 6: I love about it is that I still have good ideas,
43:22
Speaker 6: whether for me or anybody else. When I say ideas,
43:25
Speaker 6: not just in rap, but after the wrap, the market
43:28
Speaker 6: and the title, the fonts, shades like I'm into all
43:33
Speaker 6: like even this right here. This is a black artist
43:34
Speaker 6: named the Reese He's dope, man. He's just like he's
43:38
Speaker 6: not with a gallery or anything. The Reese Walker. I
43:41
Speaker 6: found him online. He does this little like pastel dope.
43:44
Speaker 6: This is art like he drew.
43:46
Speaker 2: He drew this of me. This is not a picture.
43:48
Speaker 2: He drew this whole thing.
43:50
Speaker 6: And I just like, I just like, I don't know
43:54
Speaker 6: curating dope stuff.
43:55
Speaker 1: So and you still do that without rap.
43:57
Speaker 6: If God said to jan and I want you to
43:59
Speaker 6: put that, if I heard him as clear as you
44:01
Speaker 6: saying that, yeah, I probably would because I feel like
44:02
Speaker 6: he got something bigger for me. And so he wants
44:04
Speaker 6: me to probably start going to sleep at night, getting
44:06
Speaker 6: up early or something like that, which I haven't done.
44:07
Speaker 6: And since my father passed, I sleep in the daytime.
44:11
Speaker 6: Only was sleep at night.
44:12
Speaker 1: So you're writing books now, you got the podcast.
44:14
Speaker 2: You know, me and Halo, Me and Halo podcast. Check
44:19
Speaker 2: that out?
44:19
Speaker 1: What do you do?
44:21
Speaker 5: What do you do at night? Then if you like
44:23
Speaker 5: what are you doing?
44:23
Speaker 2: You just like, what are you doing?
44:26
Speaker 5: Are you not sleeping?
44:27
Speaker 3: You know?
44:28
Speaker 2: Do I sleep at night? Y'all know what time I
44:32
Speaker 2: go to sleep?
44:35
Speaker 11: Six seven?
44:38
Speaker 3: I got kids, yell it out.
44:50
Speaker 1: It is what it is.
44:51
Speaker 6: Halo told me we was retiring this year. I think
44:53
Speaker 6: he said on the podcast, like we had to let
44:55
Speaker 6: it go or something for something.
44:57
Speaker 2: Man.
44:59
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but I go to sleep around six six
45:01
Speaker 6: or seven, and then I get up around what time
45:04
Speaker 6: I get up.
45:06
Speaker 2: Twelve one?
45:06
Speaker 10: Is that because of your music? Artists? Like, because a
45:09
Speaker 10: lot of artists are like that too, where they're up
45:10
Speaker 10: on it.
45:11
Speaker 6: I've been doing that ever since the kids knowing me. Okay,
45:15
Speaker 6: Harmony thirteen.
45:17
Speaker 5: But what are you doing? Are you thinking?
45:19
Speaker 1: Like?
45:19
Speaker 5: Are you writing?
45:20
Speaker 6: Are you I'm in I'm in a studio space when
45:23
Speaker 6: I'm doing something ambitious to help my career go further.
45:28
Speaker 6: And that is the time when all the noise is
45:30
Speaker 6: shut off for me. All the people that I love
45:33
Speaker 6: should be in the bed sleep. I don't receive phone
45:36
Speaker 6: calls that lay nobody calling me saying they needed I
45:39
Speaker 6: can actually concentrate on the task at hand, whatever that is.
45:42
Speaker 6: And those are my hours that I can just lock
45:45
Speaker 6: in from probably twelve to six or something like that.
45:47
Speaker 6: I started working at night round eleven to twelve. From
45:49
Speaker 6: twelve to six is really just really really my time,
45:52
Speaker 6: really need time. I don't have to worry about you
45:55
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. I mean, of course I worry
45:56
Speaker 6: about people, but it's just really my time. I don't
45:58
Speaker 6: have anything else my mind with me and the task
46:01
Speaker 6: at hand.
46:02
Speaker 5: And that's therapeutic for you.
46:03
Speaker 2: That's so therapeutic for me. I wouldn't know what to do.
46:05
Speaker 6: Like like Keisha hates when I'm at home that in
46:11
Speaker 6: those times because she trying to sleep.
46:14
Speaker 2: And I'm moving around up and Man.
46:16
Speaker 6: Just the other day, I was just doing the most
46:18
Speaker 6: craziest stuff, man, because I had to be up at seven.
46:20
Speaker 6: So I'm like, Man, do I go to sleep or
46:23
Speaker 6: do I just stay up to seven? So I'm trying
46:25
Speaker 6: to figure it out. She's like, what you're doing home?
46:27
Speaker 6: Next thing, she looked at me, I'm standing out the
46:30
Speaker 6: window like Malcolm X. I'm just looking out the one,
46:34
Speaker 6: you know what. I'm saying stuff like this, I really
46:36
Speaker 6: need some asphalts so I can. I'm just looking at
46:39
Speaker 6: stuff at the house. I'm just looking at the driveway.
46:42
Speaker 6: I need to do this roundabout over. I'm looking at
46:45
Speaker 6: the tennis court and got the light out there on
46:47
Speaker 6: the court.
46:47
Speaker 2: I'm looking. I'm like, man, we should use this more often.
46:51
Speaker 2: We just.
46:53
Speaker 6: With my mind and my like, I'm not sleepy, I'm
46:56
Speaker 6: not tired. I'm not ying at because my body trying.
46:59
Speaker 6: I'm almost like a new born. I'm trying to sleep
47:02
Speaker 6: from like seven to five. I mean, I'm sorry, five hours,
47:06
Speaker 6: seven to twelve. I'm trying to sleep like that long,
47:09
Speaker 6: but the longest, like literally since twenty twice of my
47:12
Speaker 6: pop died. I hadn't really slept in night time.
47:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, m hm, well the book is out today.
47:20
Speaker 6: This is the book is god? Are you looking at this?
47:23
Speaker 6: This is dope. It's a ham some picture on the
47:25
Speaker 6: back as well. Man, look if you open this up,
47:27
Speaker 6: this is something something told me.
47:30
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna challenge y'all.
47:31
Speaker 6: Go to two chainsbook dot com, enter the Sweet States
47:35
Speaker 6: to sit next to me at the hoss game. You
47:36
Speaker 6: have to March eleventh to do that. But this right here,
47:40
Speaker 6: tell me what does something tell you?
47:42
Speaker 2: Bo?
47:42
Speaker 6: I guess something told you give me some give me
47:44
Speaker 6: an example, something told you give me an exam where
47:51
Speaker 6: So what I'm saying, what so you pull your stuff?
47:53
Speaker 2: Tell me how to tell me how that went?
47:55
Speaker 5: So woke up under this is crazy though?
47:57
Speaker 9: So that yeah, because I was gonna wake up early
48:00
Speaker 9: and do my little you know, my little curling joint.
48:01
Speaker 5: But I ain't have enough time because I was.
48:04
Speaker 9: I was going to questions for my book, you know
48:06
Speaker 9: what I'm saying, because I start person this week.
48:07
Speaker 5: So I got up.
48:08
Speaker 9: I ain't have enough time for that. So I was like,
48:10
Speaker 9: you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna wear my hat.
48:13
Speaker 6: Something told you to put it. I mean you got
48:15
Speaker 6: other hats though, what made you get put that one on?
48:19
Speaker 5: I don't like the bunny is.
48:20
Speaker 9: I want to go with the little suit and go
48:22
Speaker 9: with the you know, the body suit. I just got
48:24
Speaker 9: these new nikes.
48:25
Speaker 6: I know they courting. Okay, give me an example. Something
48:32
Speaker 6: told you.
48:32
Speaker 3: I told them that today I'm learn how to ski today.
48:36
Speaker 2: Something told you, like you just sitting there.
48:37
Speaker 4: Like, man, you know it is my son's snowboards and
48:40
Speaker 4: I took them on the mountain the other day and
48:42
Speaker 4: I felt bad because I couldn't go with him on
48:44
Speaker 4: the mountaincause I don't know how to score snowboard to ski.
48:46
Speaker 4: So I was like, you know what, I'm gonna learn
48:47
Speaker 4: how to ski, so next time we go, I can
48:49
Speaker 4: get on that.
48:50
Speaker 2: I'm good father.
48:51
Speaker 8: So absolutely, something told me I need to go back
48:54
Speaker 8: home this weekend spender time with my family.
48:57
Speaker 2: I love it.
48:59
Speaker 7: Something told me that two Chains had an amazing book
49:01
Speaker 7: that he needed to get published.
49:04
Speaker 2: And that's why you're in that's right. Hold on.
49:09
Speaker 8: You knew you wanted to write a book, But did
49:10
Speaker 8: you go to him and say, hey, it's time or
49:12
Speaker 8: did how did that?
49:13
Speaker 6: No, he just knew I'm a successful black dude. So
49:15
Speaker 6: he tried to cap in on my success because he
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Speaker 6: know I'm a winner.
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Speaker 1: Else he changes the plug. I wouldn't have Crystal franchises
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Speaker 1: if it.
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Speaker 8: Wasn't And people don't talk enough about you and your
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Speaker 8: involvement in the Crystal franchise.
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Speaker 6: My environment in the culture is crazy, you know what
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Speaker 6: I'm saying. I am the pictures, I am the mood
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Speaker 6: boy for a lot of stuff going on. I'm humble
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Speaker 6: and quiet sometimes a lot of the times. But I
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Speaker 6: could see how what my influence has done for even
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Speaker 6: my whole city. Like man, listen Esco and the Esco
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Speaker 6: franchise ten years. I owned the Dirt five years before
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Speaker 6: I started running the business, own the vertically Candy Land.
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Speaker 6: There's no other person my age, my democratic that owns
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Speaker 6: a my demographic, that owns an adult entertainment. You to
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Speaker 6: get a permit to be nude and have alcoholis they
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Speaker 6: stop issuing those in nineteen ninety three? You have to
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Speaker 6: biytos for an extremely high price from somebody who sets it.
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Speaker 6: A lot of the even the G League team being
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Speaker 6: connected to the Linta Hawks, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 6: Even having an association with that it's just a lot
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Speaker 6: of things that I see that I try to open
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Speaker 6: up like in this book and let my peers know,
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Speaker 6: like this is what's going on, and this is how
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Speaker 6: I'm even making these business decisions based off Like of
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Speaker 6: course I have a lawyer, I have management, but I
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Speaker 6: got this voice going on with me too, and but
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Speaker 6: I do have you know, the crystal situation shot the
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Speaker 6: Jernam Than just shot that everybody that I became partners with.
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Speaker 6: I think collaborating. Collaborating is a good thing, not only
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Speaker 6: a music but in business too. And my secret to
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Speaker 6: that is finding someone that's passionate in whatever you're trying
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Speaker 6: to do and collaborate with and then you can have
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Speaker 6: success in the field. So I said to say that
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Speaker 6: the person I'm collaborating with the ESCO there, they're passionate
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Speaker 6: about the hospitality space. They don't have a special seasoning
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Speaker 6: or sauce. It's bigger than that. You got to know
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Speaker 6: this space. The person that I'm in the strip club
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Speaker 6: visits is passionate about that business. So it's just and
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Speaker 6: Jonathan is passionate about crystals, and this man is passionate
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Speaker 6: about giving back.
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Speaker 2: To our community. So that's how a lot of things
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Speaker 2: line up.
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Speaker 3: There you have it.
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Speaker 4: It's two changed ladies and get the book today.
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Speaker 2: Thank y'all.
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Speaker 3: And it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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Speaker 2: Every day clicks up The Breakfast Club you don't finish
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Speaker 2: for y'all. Done,