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- justice for: Hey y'all, and welcome back to Justice 4 WTF Edition. We're your hosts. I'm Jackie. And I'm Sam. WTF! It has been a minute since we have done a WTF. Season one, I'm pretty sure. I think we might have done like one in season two, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. so if you were new here, let us explain. Occasionally we will drop an episode on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday. These episodes will consist of a few different cases. Sometimes it's updates on things we've covered, but mostly it's breaking cases, ongoing cases that are ever evolving, making it hard to do a deep dive. Yep. Now would definitely be a good time to hit that follow button so you never miss a new episode. And you can also follow us anywhere at Justice4 Podcast. we're on absolutely everything, so you can stay up to date on trials, our live shows we have coming up, and any other updates that we put out. Yes, we have a lot of shit coming up, you guys. A lot. Speaking of live shows, we do have two coming up. We have one on September third at Voodoo Brewing in Calder Springs at six o'clock. Yes. Perfect. we do have some upfront reserve seats if you would like them. They are only ten dollars. Just go ahead and message us and we can get that going for you. We're not gonna sell tickets online this time just because it was it was a little crazy. It was a little weird. So if you are interested in having a reserved seat, just message us. We're not gonna do like the whole like swag pack that comes with it either. We're just trying to make it simple. And within like thirty minutes of our show starting, last time at Voodoo, we had the inside packed. So I would definitely get there a little bit early. or if you'd like to get a reserve seat so you don't have to worry about and you can show up right before six. They were legendary. They were turning people away. That's how packed it was in there. So if you are interested in coming to that show, get a r get a seat, man. Message us, get a seat. If not, get there early. we're also gonna be doing a candle making at Painting with a Twist on October thirtieth, the day before Halloween. So we're thinking about maybe a little costume. You have t you it is required. Okay, fine, we're gonna have a costume contest. But please remember, be appropriate. We we are talking about murder and things. So yeah. Yeah. Be appropriate, please. But yeah. I'm sitting here, I'm like, slave Leia is appropriate. Totally. One thousand. Just you know. Yeah. Be a little sensitive about what we're talking about. Yes. All right. So today we are going to be talking about a baby found in a porta potty at Electric Forest. Mm-hmm. music festival that goes on in Michigan. Way too much is happening at Electric Forest, man. Way too much. Are you sure you still want to go to that? Knew it. Then we are going to be discussing the Memphis mom who is facing first-degree murder charges for shooting a man she found hiding underneath her 13-year-old's bed. Hell yeah. So buckle up buttercups because today's cases are bizarre and just kinda out there. That picture you showed me was a thirteen year old? No. In the early morning hours of june twenty eighth, an employee was doing a routine clean and check of the porta potties in the good life camping area of Electric Forest. When they found something straight out of a horror movie, there was blood smeared as if someone had tried to clean something up, and inside the toilet area of the porta potty was a newborn baby, with the umbilical cord still attached, placenta and all. Immediately the area was locked down and police were called in. And I honestly never thought we would be talking about Electric Forest Music Festival on this podcast again. Again. I really didn't. so if you haven't listened to our episode on Kevin Graves or aren't in the EDM scene, allow me to first explain what Electric Forest is. Yep. Electric Forest Music Festival is one of the most well known camping music festivals in the US. It is held each summer at the Double J Resort in Rothbury, Michigan. Since its debut as Electric Forest in twenty eleven, the festival has become famous for blending live music with immersive art, interactive experiences, and natural beauty of the Sherwood Forest. I was it does look really fucking cool. It really does. It looks wicked. There's some pictures right here. While electronic dance music is at the heart of the festival, the lineup also features jam bands, indie rock, hip hop, and a bunch of other genres. Like it's crazy the different artists that they have in this. you have about fifty thousand attendees each year. And the festival's like from a Thursday to a Monday. Monday. Yeah, Monday everyone leaves. Jeez. Thursday you get in and they have the pre stuff. Actually I think you can get in there before Thursday and you can like there's stuff in the middle of the week, yeah. It is also an all ages event. So there's families that I mean there is little kids there all the way up through teenagers, so there's like kids that go around in wagons. Many many families like make this a annual tradition, and this festival just transformed this wooded venue into like a magical world filled with glowing lights, displays, interactive art, hidden performances. It's just it's really cool. Yeah. So with that, there are multiple campgrounds and RV areas, and they all have different names. So today we're going to be talking about the Good Life Campground area. So back to the morning of Sunday, June twenty eighth. Sunday was the last day of the music festival itself. It was in the early morning hours that ground crew members made the horrific discovery. Immediately an investigation began and quickly news was spreading all over social media. But inside the festival, almost no one knew what was happening. Unless you happened to be in the immediate area where the discovery was made, or unless you're in the campground where they were questioning people, you didn't know. Yeah. And so a lot of people were shocked and outraged that the festival was still going on and hadn't been shut down to investigate. And that rage only intensified when the festival was actually shut down later that night for inclement weather. jeez. What most people don't understand is keeping things business as usual was the best option to investigate this. If everyone starts packing up and leaving, there goes all your witnesses and potential suspects. And panic. Yes. When people panic, they do stupid shit. Not to mention the mass chaos this would cause. Crazy. While everyone was playing armchair detectives, which we will talk about more in a little bit, guys, investigators were still trying to figure out exactly what they were dealing with. Yeah. until an autopsy could take place, no one knew if the baby was alive when it was born, if the mom was okay, does she need medical attention? Could she be bleeding out? What is going on? Investigators and police began going around to campsites and questioning people. Michigan State Police put out a post Sunday evening stating that a baby had been found deceased in a porta potty, asking anyone with information to come forward. On July 13th, Michigan State Police announced that a preliminary autopsy showed that the baby was full term and had fluid in the lungs and stomach, meaning the baby was born alive and not stillborn. Adding that they still have no leads and the FBI is now offering a reward of up to fifteen thousand dollars for information leading to the identification, arrest, and conviction of those responsible. So let's go back to those armchair detectives real quick. Yes, please. I'm in multiple Electric Force Facebook groups and have been for years. no. Some because of Kevin Graves, and because this is a festival that me and my husband have wanted to attend for a while, and our daughter also wants to go as well. I know. It's getting lower and lower on the list. Immediately in these groups, there were two sides to this. The logical side. And the absolute idiots who did something you should never, ever, ever do. She told me about this part. So while most people understood how complex this entire situation was, there were people who thought it would be a great idea to have people go through their pictures and post anyone who looked like they were nine months pregnant. Posts were going up saying who in your campground was pregnant and isn't now. Someone noticed something. Hey, hi guys. So This is a form of doxing and it's a no no. It's a big no no. Like I understand that they just to play a little bit of devil's advocate, I get it. This is a great idea to a point. You can't just put pictures up. What if someone's just fat? I get it. Like that's wild. Yeah. We cannot emphasize this enough. Yeah. Do not ever do this. Don't do that. You could be destroying an innocent person's life. Uh-huh. And I know that everybody wants this mom and or parents to be held responsible, but also their safety is important. Yeah. I will give kudos to the electric forest pages that I'm in because they did start blocking and not allowing post or comments that encourage this kind of behavior. Period. But before that could happen, Michigan State Police's attention was directed to an attendee who was pregnant at the festival. no. And after questioning her, it turned out that she had no role in any of this. But also how shitty for her to even have to go through this. Was she still pregnant? Or could have had the baby you know? Like Yeah, that's wild. Like just Not necessarily. How many pregnant there could be how many pregnant people in fifty thousand people Okay at EDC, easily I saw like eight or nine, like super pregnant girls. Yeah. So it's just like Just because someone was pregnant doesn't mean you can call them a murderer. Yes. Crazy. I understand that people want someone held accountable for this. Yeah. It's truly horrific. But we have to let our justice system work. Which brings us to just how many people don't know how DNA works. no. DNA alone does nothing unless you have something to compare it to. Yeah. If you can't. If cares put it in the fucking system, like, That's her. Yeah. If the parents have never had their DNA uploaded into a DNA database such as CODAS, the DNA is going to be a dead end. Which is what's happening right now. The DNA they have it, but the parents aren't in any systems. Yeah. So No one did Ancestry for them. My next one was so why not use Ancestry or Twenty Three and Me? Well, the genealogy route still has a lot of red tape that you have to go through. There are requirements to go this route, and not every case meets those requirements. This case, I don't believe we're at that point yet. No. It's still very early, but if no one comes forward, it may be the only way to solve this case. Michigan actually, while I was researching things in this, Michigan actually just had like a thirty year old or Twenty year old cold case of an infant solved with DNA through gene genealogical testing. So Michigan, they're on that. I just think that they have to exhaust all the other stuff first, or there's like an age limit on cases like this. It also just happened like a month ago. Yeah. a little over a month ago. So it's just like give it time because maybe they have leads. They're police very specifically hold certain information close to them so they don't tell the public because they don't want this shit to happen. and they don't want the like this is not specifically that case, like the murder or killer to find out that information and be able to change what they're doing or possibly do it again and cover their tracks better. Yeah. Okay. Police aren't just sitting there twiddling their fucking thumbs most of the time. Most of the time. Most of the time. Since Electric Forest isn't all ages festival, there is the potential that this could have been a teenager. That's very true. Not that it excuses anything, it just complicates things. It does. Not only that But Michigan is a safe haven state. no. Meaning that under Michigan law, the safe haven law allows a parent to legally and anonymously surrender an unharmed newborn up to seventy two hours old without facing criminal prosecution. I mean that's not terrible. This person just didn't surrender the child. The infant can be handed to an on duty employee at a hospital, fire department, or police station, or to emergency responders by calling nine one one. Do they have the baby boxes there? No. But at every single music festival there's med tents and police officers in ground control and people walking around everywhere. Medics are always walking around. All this person had to do was open up the door and yell for someone. Tell someone to not go in there until they could get help. Or get someone to go get help for them. I cannot imagine what this person went through giving birth inside a porta potty at a music festival alone. Their decisions and actions after don't eliminate the empathy I have for what they went through. But age or state of mind does not excuse the decisions and actions that came after that baby was born. That's fair. I have so many thoughts right now. And we're not gonna pretend like this is a classical music festival where nobody takes drugs. Yeah. So pregnant or not pregnant, we also don't know what state of mind we were in. Correct. Do we know we were pregnant? Yeah. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. This like, I hate to bring her up again, but this could have been like Lakin mm situation. 'Cause like she looked pregnant. Less Okay. And like who's the other one? Skylar. Yeah. Is that her fucking name? Skylar, That bitch. Richardson. Mm-hmm. That bitch. Like tiny, tiny, tiny. And you could kinda she just look like she ate a big burrito. So one of the girls I went to high school with a few years ago literally posted a picture of her holding her newborn baby with a very long post because she went to the ER with stomach pain. Yeah. And then delivered a baby a few hours later, and she had no idea. She'd even lost like twenty pounds. I get it. Like the thing is like people are like, How do you not know? How do you not know? It happens. It's very possible. It is extremely, extremely possible. It's very fucking possible. And sometimes you can have periods. Sometimes you don't have periods even if you're Yeah. Like that's a thing also. There's also certain thing like birth controls out there, even if it's not working for pregnancy, you're not having periods. There's like your body our bodies are so weird. It's not a synced up clock. No. So who knows if they even knew they were. Yeah. And I think that just because not just because Michigan is a safe haven state, but that amplifies the outrage in this case. Absolutely. Because this could have been so so different with the amount of police and EMTs and people walking around. And being around all the time, even early hours of the morning. Yeah. You know, so it's just I think that's just like what really is like the cherry on this for me is the fact that this could have been so different. That's how I feel about every case that we have about a newborn child all of a sudden dead. Yeah. Like, if you've been with us long enough, you've seen us cover at least three multiple times That They were so close that they could have just done something different. I'm sorry. This makes me so mad. It does. Because there's so many options out there than just getting rid of the child. There's so many options. So many options. I don't understand why I get so fucking heated about kids kid stories, man. But I also want to add that it It's always the most important thing when a baby is surrendered or found with an umbilical quarter placenta is if the mom is okay. There are so many complications that can happen from birth that you don't know about until it's too late. And I know I was immediately worried about this person bleeding out somewhere, not to mention the risk of infection from giving birth in a port a potty at a music festival. In the woods. Day four. day four port a potty of a music festival. I didn't even think. I feel nasty. Yeah, kinda Yeah. So I was gonna ask Sam for her thoughts, but we have already gotten them. I do have a few more thoughts though. Okay. So I'm curious who she was with as well. Did they know she was pregnant? What a state of mind were they in? Like did she just be like, man, I gotta take a mad shit. Go to the bathroom. Bloop. Girl And then just go back like, I feel so much better. Like, I'm so confused. Like I wonder if fuck, I don't know, man. that's what everyone's wanting to know. Like, this was a group, like, you know, like if it was a teenager from another state who didn't have who has abortion bans. You know what I mean? Like there's that's another layer to this is somebody from another state. Like s people come from all over the world. And not just the country, the world. At EDC we we actually got to give a bracelet to a guy from Germany. Hell yeah. And he was so excited. Hell yeah. Hardly spoke in English. It was a great time. But you know what I mean? Like and the other one is, okay, everyone's like, who looked pregnant and now doesn't? Fun fact, you still look pregnant right after you give birth. So nobody was sneaking at this. People genuinely don't know how pregnancies work, do they? Like how women's bodies work. They genuinely don't. In all fairness, after I gave birth, I looked at the nurse and I said was this still there? And she goes, honey, she was only seven pounds. Did you gain more than seven pounds? And I went, Well see, I didn't know how that worked. I say, Y'all didn't tell me that's how that worked. I just figured whatever I gained it came out of me. No, like you still look six months pregnant for like a week or two after you give birth. Yeah. I think that's where the movies fuck you up. Because like these they're coming home and they're just back to being skinny as hell. Fuck no, that's not how it works. Yeah. I mean some do, but now I'm looking at you, Katie. I thought I was gonna bounce back like you, I didn't. Katie. So as of this recording, the FBI and Michigan State Police have no leads or persons of interest, or at least none that they are publicly stating, which I think that they would tell us if they were publicly, because they keep saying or not. Michigan State Police continues to seek the public's assistance and encourages anyone with information to report it to the Michigan State Police by submitting a tip at Michigan.gov slash I C H tip. Mitch tip. Or by calling one eight five five six four two four eight four seven. that's all the information we have about the baby at Electric Forest. I'm really surprised this hasn't Gotten bigger. Yeah. It was latched on to for like a second or two, but with no new information. You said it was June twenty third? Yeah, it was ch ch ch ch ch ch ch ch June twenty eighth. Okay. So we're only a month out. Three days after that? What happened though? I don't know. The cider kids. yeah, that is where that took, yep. It's always another news story. Yep. Now we're gonna switch some gears, guys, and we're gonna head to Memphis. So on July sixteenth, twenty twenty six, thirty-six year old Kendra Scott arrived home around one thirty in the morning and began loudly knocking on her front door yelling, Who's at my house? Now, this didn't make sense to me in the beginning until I saw something the other until I was listening to a news thing the other day that said that she came rushing home at one thirty in the morning because She had heard that her daughter let a boy in the house. So I couldn't figure out why she was rush why she was coming home at one thirty in the morning and banging on the front door. I'm like, don't you got a key? Anyway, I just wanted to say that. I'm not sure. Or if she I don't know why she was banging on the front door instead of just walking in her house. Maybe because she didn't want to walk in on her daughter having sex with a random dude. I don't know. Okay. So she began yelling and knocking on the door. Who was at my house? Kendra's thirteen year old daughter let her into the house, and once inside, Kendra discovered twenty year old Rhodarius Morton under her thirteen year old daughter's bed. Kendra began yelling at Rhodarius to get out of her house, and as he gathered his belongings and began leaving, Kendra followed him out to the front porch, yelling, Get out of my house, bitch. Once outside, Kendra shot Roderius once in the back of the head, and a neighbor came outside after hearing the gunshot, and he said Kendra looked at him, gun still in hand, and said, I shot him. I shot him. When police arrived and spoke with Kendra, she told them she came home to find a dude under her kid's bed and she did what she had to do. But the more info that police gathered, the more the line of doing what she had to do started to become blurry. According to Kendra's thirteen year old daughter, she let Rodarius in through the back door at around one AM. She was scared when her mom came home because her mom had told her multiple times that if she caught a boy in the house, she would put a hole in his ass. She confirmed as well that her mom and Rodarius were on the front porch when she heard the gunshot. When police spoke with a neighbor, he said that he went outside around 1 30 when Kendra came home, banging and yelling on the door to see what all the noise was. Then he ran back outside after the gunshot, like I had already mentioned. So, like I said before, we love a good nosy neighbor. I like this nosy neighbor. We love nosy neighbors though. It was also confirmed in the affidavit that Roderius did not have a weapon on him, or or in his belongings that he gathered as he exited the house. I already have so many thoughts. Thirty-six year old Kendra Scott was arrested on charges of first degree murder and possession of a firearm during the commission of a dangerous felony. A bond of a hundred thousand dollars, which she ended up paying on July twenty sixth, and was released. And her next court appearance is scheduled for August third. When the headlines first broke, there were a lot of people applauding this mom for doing what any parent would do. It seemed like the reason we have the Make My Day Law in Colorado or the Stand Your Ground Law as it's known in Tennessee. Basically, this law allows you to use deadly force if you feel like your life is in imminent danger while you're in your house or on your property. Yeah. But once more details emerge, it started to feel less and less like that. First off, he was already leaving and not threatening anyone. That's where my head's at. And she shot him in the back of the head. Yeah. Meaning in the front yard. He wasn't even on the porch anymore. He was walking away. Then Rodarius's family and his special ed teacher from high school started to speak out. special ed teacher. According to the interview from his teacher, he was a quiet, kind kid who was not mentally his age. She had even warned him when he graduated high school that he is older and needs to be aware of that, especially when it comes to younger girls. no. His brother also posted on TikTok that he was mentally delayed. No one has come out and said exactly what those delays are, but I'm going to assume it's somewhere along the lines that he's mentally younger than twenty. Yeah. This teacher also said that according to his family, they didn't even know he had left the house that night. no. There are also videos floating around supposedly of Kendra's 13 year olds TikTok. With videos about Roderius being hurt. Her baby daddy, and that she will always love him over anyone. There is more on there that is just outraging people, just like how the video she's posted after, she just seems to not be taking any of this seriously. She's thirteen. But it's not confirmed entirely if this is her TikTok or somebody messing around. Yeah. But news stations have been floating this around, like talking about it, that it could be hers, other pages, stuff like that. So I do have to put it in here. 'Cause I watched it and it's interesting. And there's not a lot of videos on there and at first I like, Well that's weird but also it's like the same amount of videos that my kid has on TikTok and she hasn't been on there for very long. So I'm like, Okay, I get this, they're the same age. Yeah. A family member has made a fundraiser for Kendra's three daughters who now need the support after her arrest. Which gave some information in there that I kinda used in here, but it's very interesting. The focus very much is on her daughters and not really Kendra. Which is nice. Good. That's good. So what are your thoughts? I As soon as you started telling me that he was getting his stuff and walking out, I was like, Okay, great. And then she shot him, I was like, Nope, that's not good. No. That's bad. When I first saw the headline, I was like, Hell yeah, I get it. And then I read that part and I went, Ooh, no, that's not He was leaving. He was leaving. He was literally leaving. And he had already made this threat about boys in the house. Yeah, yeah. And like at the same time, like because there's no reports of it, I can't imagine he was putting up a fight by any means. He wasn't being rude. He was he was probably just getting his shit and leaving. Yeah. But now I'm curious. He went and hid underneath her bed because the mom came home banging on the door and the daughter didn't know what else to do. Yeah. That's weird. It's it's te it's like in the teenager handbook. The closet are under the bed. It's She don't have a window to throw out of. It's true. At the same time, one, again, why is the mom like I guarantee it was the neighbor that called her and let her know, she's your boy just showed up at your house and that's why she rushed home. I don't know who told her about this. I don't know if it was a neighbor. I don't know if it was a si it might have been one of the sisters. I I mean that's fair. But at the same time, why is she banging on the door? I'm so confused. Yes, you're you're right. I'm like and the affidavit doesn't say I have no yeah. Was it actually the front door or was it? Yeah, it was the front door. They let him in the back door and she was banging on the front door outside the house 'cause the neighbor saw her. That's true. I know. I can't wait for more information about this to come out because there is definitely unanswered questions. I just I genuinely believe the arrest is correct and she was not in any type of danger. no. Especially because it was the back of the head and he was leaving. If it if he was charging her or like that, that'd be a completely He in the house. He was literally on the front lawn. He was literally walking away. Yeah. So also, where'd she get the damn g when did she get the gun? She probably grabbed her when she went in house. Why isn't that shit locked up? Girl, I don't know. I don't I just I'm very confused. I'm very interested to see what further information comes out from those. So what do y'all think? Do you think Kendra was in in her legal limits or do you think there's way more to all of this? Alright, so now I just wanna alert you guys to a trial that's currently going on that we have both been following. I've been following this case for a couple years. I've been planning on doing an episode on it for a while. but stuff just kept coming out. Then I saw trial was coming up and I like, I'm waiting till after trial. Sam has just joined in on this and this is a very fun debate case for me and her. I'm not even saying it's like a debate. We're just we're having good discussions about it 'cause I'm very much no, this is how I feel and she was like, No, but this is how I feel and we're having like adult conversations about it. Isn't it weird that people can have conversations normally and express their Unlike the internet? That's crazy. Yeah. So but we do align on quite a bit of it though. We do I will say that. So Lindsay Clancy's trial. is currently going on and like I said we haven't covered her case yet, but we will be. Yep. And I will be. I'm not getting it. So if you're not familiar with the case, here's just a little overview for you. On January twenty fourth, twenty twenty three, authorities responded to a home in Ducksbury, Massachusetts after thirty two year old Lindsay Clancy allegedly strangled her three children while her husband Patrick Clancy was away picking up takeout and medication. The couple's children were five year old Cora, three year old Dawson and eight month old Callan. first responders found the children unresponsive inside the home, and Lindsay was located outside after falling from the upstairs window. Lindsay was paralyzed from the fall, and her defense is that she was suffering from postpartum psychosis. While the prosecution heavily believes Lindsay knew exactly what she was doing and sent Patrick away intentionally that night. Patrick, who is now her ex-husband, is testifying in Lindsay's defense. Which is crazy. There is so much to this case and I just I really look forward to doing the deep dive for y'all. Court T V is currently live streaming the trial YouTube every single day. Massachusetts courts run on what I like to call half day systems. Yeah. They start at s what, nine AM? Yeah, they start at like nine A.M. and they're usually done by like three. Yeah. And we've been having like it dismissed early. we have field trips in this one. The pictures of the kids from that night and the nine one one call were shown to jurors and the judge, but were not shown live. Allowed to be shown live, which is so interesting because that for the nine one one call. The nine one one call has been released for years. I've I've listened to this nine one one call multiple times. I still have not heard it. I'll play it for you. Please I will warn you do not go looking for it unless you can handle it. It it's bad. So it is definitely if you remember the Andrea Yates case Depending on how much you like or dislike her, you will enjoy this one as well. Because it's very, very similar. Why can't I remember the Andrea Hates case? And we'll talk about it in a minute. Thank you. so yeah, that's that's really all I have for you guys today. Like I love having WTFs back. It's super fun. Ugh I've missed them. I have too. it's just fun to give little updates on stuff that's going on that we can't really do a full case on. And just to give you guys a little something in the middle of the week. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I this is not a guarantee that we're gonna continue our WTFs, especially r I mean we will. We will. Well they just might not be every week. life has been lifing for both of us lately. And then we decided to add two live shows in the next two months, so yeah. but like you guys are hearing this on Friday, but like last week we had to release something from the vault. And I don't think we put anything Like an actual post out about it, but your girl was sick. She was, and we did not end up There you go. We didn't end up recording because she was she was dying. I was not okay. she was like, I don't even think I can sit here while you read an episode to me. And I was like, No problem. So sometimes we try very, very hard to not skip a week and then not do that to you guys, but sometimes it happens. It is just the two of us running this whole show and editing and doing everything. So if any of you guys do that and you have free time in your life. And you're okay with not getting paid right now. Hey, hit us up. We need somebody to add edit clips. We need tick we need we need. We need someone we need a social media manager. That's what we need. Genuinely I do so much on there and it's so much with writing scripts. I would we if anybody wants to start editing our shorts and our clips and things, we can't pay you 'cause we don't even make money, but we would love to add you to the team. So please hit us up. Yeah. Eventually we could get there. Eventually you'll get paid. One day if we get paid. And then we just need that person to like help grow the socials 'cause then we can start getting that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So if you want to get paid and you're good at this, hey. But yeah, so live show at Voodoo, September third. it's a Thursday night, six PM. We will see you then. Message us if you would like a reserved seat. And then hopefully by the time this episode comes out, I will have a link for painting with a twist for the candle making. If not, it will I'll go back in and add it to this or you'll see it all over our social medias. We'll have it in penned posts. that way you guys can access it as well. Yes. And for the candle making, like obviously like when we did the painting with the twist ones, you like could choose your own canvas, things like that. We decided to go candle making and we might have an activity book for you. We actually have some pretty cool things in the work for the October painting with the twist one. It's gonna be a little different than our other lives, hopefully. Yeah. I have an idea. Mm-hmm. But the last one we had, it was just a little difficult because a lot of people it was just loud. It was too loud. Candles equal no blow dryers, guys. That's the point of this. No blow dryers. So what's gonna happen is it takes about thirty minutes for you to make your candle and then they have to cure before you can take them home. So after you make your candle, you get to sit and hang out and drink. We all get to hang out together. So yeah. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a good time. And obviously, you know, we love painting with a twist. That's where our very first live show was. So we're always, always, always gonna go back there. So yeah, just make sure you guys come see us. Yes. make sure you're following us everywhere at Justice For Podcasts, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube, Apple, Spotify, iHeartRadio, Audible, all of it because we will be releasing stuff about this. It's where we're gonna have everything. and that way you don't miss anything. Yeah. Period. You got anything else? Nah man. Alright. We'll see him on Tuesday. Yes, we will catch you guys next week with an all new episode. Be safe, stop killing each other. Lock your damn doors. Don't leave your fucking friends. Okay. Love you. Bye.