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The Kenny Report | 26 May · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Live from the skying New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Danika di Giorgio filling in this week for Chris Tonight,
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  Speaker 4: Labour's green dream turns into a nightmare as power prices
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  Speaker 4: rise again.
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  Speaker 3: The usual suspects out.
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  Speaker 4: In force, pushing climate change alarmism as New South Wales
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  Speaker 4: cleans up from last week's catastrophic floods, plus tensions inside
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  Speaker 4: the coalition.
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  Speaker 3: Will the reunion last?
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  Speaker 4: I'll speak with National's leader David littl Prow shortly for
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  Speaker 4: first Tonight, Labor is having us on again with its
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  Speaker 4: renewables only experiment. Electricity prices are set to rise again
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  Speaker 4: thanks to a massive surge in the cost of building
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  Speaker 4: transmission lines. This is the same old Labor government, albeit
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  Speaker 4: re elected, but with the same old disastrous energy policies.
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  Speaker 4: It's butchering this country and causing irreparable self harm via
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  Speaker 4: an experiment of transmission lines, giant wind turbines, hydro solar
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  Speaker 4: farms and batteries or with environmental consequences and costing US
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  Speaker 4: taxpayers a bomb. Labor has taken its election win as
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  Speaker 4: a mandate to continue destroying the grid. Yet the Prime
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  Speaker 4: Minister will tell us to stick to the course because
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  Speaker 4: of climate change.
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  Speaker 5: We know that we have to deal with the challenge
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  Speaker 5: of climate change.
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  Speaker 1: You know, people who question the science.
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  Speaker 5: Need to look out their window, need to have a
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  Speaker 5: look at what's going on, not just here but in
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  Speaker 5: the world.
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  Speaker 1: But Australia is particularly vulnerable.
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  Speaker 5: And the science told us that that was the case,
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  Speaker 5: which is why we have a responsibility in my view,
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  Speaker 5: not just to take action domestically, but to be a
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  Speaker 5: part of global.
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  Speaker 1: Action as well.
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  Speaker 5: Now the transition that is occurring, we know the cheapest
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  Speaker 5: form of new energy is renewables backed by gas, backed
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  Speaker 5: by batteries and backed by hydro for firming capacity.
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  Speaker 4: Really the renewables push, which is sending prices skyrocketing, is
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  Speaker 4: the cheapest form of electricity. Our bills have already increased
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  Speaker 4: by up to one thousand dollars and we never got
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  Speaker 4: that two hundred and seventy five.
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  Speaker 3: Dollars in energy bill relief.
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  Speaker 4: And with winter upon us and as the cold weather
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  Speaker 4: sets in, the Australian Energy Regulator has today signed off
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  Speaker 4: on its default market offer, which means prices are going
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  Speaker 4: up again. Residential consumers will see increases from zero point
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  Speaker 4: five percent to nine point seven percent from July one.
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  Speaker 4: The price rises for small businesses will range from zero
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  Speaker 4: point eight percent to eight point five percent, and New
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  Speaker 4: South Wales will see the steepest price rises of up
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  Speaker 4: to nine point one percenter percent. The Australian Energy Regulator
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  Speaker 4: says its decision to approve electricity price rises was not
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  Speaker 4: only due to coal generator outages, but because of low
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  Speaker 4: solar and wind output that drove high price events, and
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  Speaker 4: that of course is just the problem. Renewables are unreliable
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  Speaker 4: and part time and that is what makes them so
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  Speaker 4: expensive because you need something to back them up. Yet
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  Speaker 4: coal is frantically being driven out of the system. In
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  Speaker 4: another predicted blowout, the Australian Energy Market Operator is warning
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  Speaker 4: that a massive surge in costs to build twenty billion
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  Speaker 4: dollars worth of electricity transmission would trigger a hit in
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  Speaker 4: household power bills. Now the cost of overhead transmission line
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  Speaker 4: projects has balloomed by up to fifty five percent, with
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  Speaker 4: substations rising as much as thirty five and these new
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  Speaker 4: estimates form part of a draft Electricity options report which
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  Speaker 4: will help form a blueprint for Australia's power green in
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: Australia needs about ten thousand kilometers of high voltage transmission
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  Speaker 4: lines by fifty as part of Labour's renewables transition, but
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  Speaker 4: the project is so far behind only half of it
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  Speaker 4: will be delivered in the next decade. And what happens, well,
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  Speaker 4: the cost will inevitably be passed on to us as consumers,
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  Speaker 4: on top of every other energy increase under labor And
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  Speaker 4: not to mention, it's the farmers who will suffer having
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  Speaker 4: to wake up every day to see these hideous transmission
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  Speaker 4: lines razoring their land. Also bowen and coke and connect
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  Speaker 4: solar and wind generation to the grid. Yet the Prime
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  Speaker 4: Minister talks absolute nonsense by comparing the cost of renewable
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  Speaker 4: energy to the cost of natural disasters.
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  Speaker 5: At the election on May threi, there was the option
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  Speaker 5: of stopping all of that, waiting until the twenty forties
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  Speaker 5: for the nuclear fantasy to be rolled out with.
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  Speaker 1: Costs unknown of that.
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  Speaker 5: But we do know when we look at costs, you've
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  Speaker 5: got a litt ok what the extent of the costs
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  Speaker 5: have been of the events just in the last year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the difference is obvious.
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  Speaker 4: This is Labour's own electricity disaster, not a natural one,
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  Speaker 4: and despite the evidence stacked against it, the Albaneze government
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  Speaker 4: is doubling down on its risky renewables only experiment. Labor
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  Speaker 4: is currently awaiting advice from the Climate Change Authority before
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  Speaker 4: setting its emissions reduction target for twenty thirty five, a
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  Speaker 4: target tipped to be sixty percent By twenty thirty five,
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  Speaker 4: they want emissions to be sixty to seventy five percent
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  Speaker 4: less than they were in two thousand and five, and
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  Speaker 4: the only way they claim.
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  Speaker 3: They are going to do that is to double down
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  Speaker 3: on renewables.
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  Speaker 4: Despite predictions that Label will undershoot its twenty thirty target
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  Speaker 4: alone by fourteen percentage points.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's utter madness. How much longer.
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  Speaker 4: Can you keep doing the same thing over and over
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  Speaker 4: and hoping for a different result.
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  Speaker 3: It is the definition of insanity.
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  Speaker 4: And we know from the experience of Spain and Portugue recently,
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  Speaker 4: the more reliant you are on renewables, the less stability
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  Speaker 4: there is, and so you end up with the very
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  Speaker 4: high likelihood of a major blackout and a total grid collapse.
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  Speaker 4: Yet Labor and PS are falling over themselves.
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  Speaker 6: The government's policy is to deliver low cost, reliable renewals.
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  Speaker 6: Are renewables backed up by gas, backed up by storage
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  Speaker 6: and backed up by hydro. That is what all of
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  Speaker 6: the credible experts economic engineering say have said consistently is
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  Speaker 6: the right outcome for Australia.
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  Speaker 4: Well g can anyone in Labour actually explain what part
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  Speaker 4: of its risky solo global experiment has been low costs
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  Speaker 4: to date and which part has been reliable Because here
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  Speaker 4: in New South Wales we were told in the middle
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  Speaker 4: of a heat wave to turn off all appliances to
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  Speaker 4: reduce pressure on the grid. I mean, it's hardly a
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  Speaker 4: case for a reliable energy system. Yet the Climate Change Authority,
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  Speaker 4: led by formal Liberal Matt Kean, is apparently going to
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  Speaker 4: provide advice as to which a mission's target Labour should pursue.
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  Speaker 4: And there are many even in the Labor Party either
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  Speaker 4: ignorant or undeterred by the blackouts in Spain and Portugal,
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  Speaker 4: pushing for even higher reductions.
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  Speaker 7: It's now two elections that we've said renewable energy, the
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  Speaker 7: cheapest form of new energy, will be part of our
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  Speaker 7: energy transition. The Australian public have backed in our plans
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  Speaker 7: we need to get more renewable energy in the system.
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  Speaker 4: We were never told about how Labour would guarantee it
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  Speaker 4: would get to its twenty thirty target during the election campaign,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Sure we'll get the usual stick with the.
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  Speaker 4: Course lines between now and then, and with Chris Bowen
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  Speaker 4: out of witness protection. The costs of this energy disaster
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  Speaker 4: are stacking up very quickly, and I suspect we are
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  Speaker 4: going to learn more and more about the financial burden
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  Speaker 4: on this country. And speaking of where exactly is the
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  Speaker 4: minister in charge of this mess, Well, he's chowing down
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  Speaker 4: on a bowl of pasta, would you believe during an
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  Speaker 4: Italian religious ceremony in Sydney. Now, this is an image
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  Speaker 4: of a man so arrogant It tells you everything that
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  Speaker 4: you need to know eating pasta in the front row
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  Speaker 4: of a holy mass at an Italian festival. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he absolutely has no clue, no clue about anything, anything
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  Speaker 4: at all.
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  Speaker 3: And as we say in Italian in bocca al lupol,
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  Speaker 3: it's how we wish people good luck.
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  Speaker 4: Well, let me say this, You're going to need all
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  Speaker 4: the luck you.
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  Speaker 3: Can get, Minister sh.
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  Speaker 4: Regional New South Wales towns are counting the costs right
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  Speaker 4: now of the devastating flood disaster, five people have died,
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  Speaker 4: tens of thousands of people are still cut off, and
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  Speaker 4: the ADF has been deployed as the cleanup begins. It
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  Speaker 4: is going to take weeks and weeks to recover from this.
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  Speaker 4: Yet after every natural disaster in this country, the usual
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  Speaker 4: green zealots pop their heads up and grandstand and blame
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  Speaker 4: it all on climate change. And right now people in
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  Speaker 4: New South Wales are worried about rebuilding. I mean, it
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  Speaker 4: is so incredibly thoughtless to be banging on about climate
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  Speaker 4: change in the middle of a disaster. Yet the Prime
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  Speaker 4: Minister and his ministers couldn't help themselves.
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  Speaker 5: We're reminded as well of the need to look.
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  Speaker 1: At the impact cost of climate change.
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  Speaker 5: Whilst Australia has always had extreme weather events, the science
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  Speaker 5: told us they would be more frequent and they would
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  Speaker 5: be more intense.
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  Speaker 8: We all know that we're a country that does have
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  Speaker 8: these extremes, but climate change is absolutely exacerbating that the
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  Speaker 8: frequency and the intensity of these events.
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  Speaker 6: We are likely to see intensifying climate related events in
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  Speaker 6: terms of fires or floods, particularly on our particularly in
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  Speaker 6: our coastal regions. That's what the science says.
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  Speaker 9: Now.
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  Speaker 4: Not only is this extremely irresponsible, given five people have
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  Speaker 4: died and people have lost homes and livelihoods, but to
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  Speaker 4: try and score political points in the middle of.
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  Speaker 3: A crisis is wrong. It's pathetic.
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  Speaker 4: Nine newspapers went as far as to publish research by
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  Speaker 4: a group called Climamet, who have put out a rapid
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  Speaker 4: attribution study which found the New South Wales floods, especially
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  Speaker 4: around Tare, was significantly worsened by human driven climate change.
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  Speaker 4: And bear in mind Climbameter is funded by the European
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  Speaker 4: Union and the French National Center for Scientific Research to
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  Speaker 4: climate obsessed bodies, especially the EU whose members are also
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  Speaker 4: banking on renewables to power the grid. Cnrs's research director
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  Speaker 4: David A. Faranda, claims in his study that extreme rainfall
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  Speaker 4: that caused the flooding was mainly intensified by human induced
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  Speaker 4: climate change, with natural variability playing a secondary role, and.
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  Speaker 3: That adaptation was necessary.
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  Speaker 4: Well, gee, it's really good to know that a man
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  Speaker 4: currently sitting in Europe is making an assessment on three
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  Speaker 4: day old floods on the other side of the world,
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  Speaker 4: and climate Meter did the same within days of cyclone
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  Speaker 4: our Fruit in March and cyclone Zelia in Wa in February,
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  Speaker 4: as well as a number of other extreme weather events
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  Speaker 4: around the world.
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  Speaker 3: Yet if you actually look on their.
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  Speaker 4: Website at the eighty global events which they've analyzed, the
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  Speaker 4: majority actually claim that they've been strengthened by climate change.
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  Speaker 4: The majority only a few they don't believe were caused
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  Speaker 4: by climate change. Again, hardly any surprises from an EU
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  Speaker 4: funded group. The Guardian's headline they went with the floods
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  Speaker 4: and droughts devastating Australia a fingerprints of a warming planet.
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  Speaker 4: It says it is undoubtedly clear that continuing to burn
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  Speaker 4: or export fossil fuels will increase climate change and the
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  Speaker 4: risk of extreme weather. Oh dear, well, what about the
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  Speaker 4: floods that occurred in Australia before that coal fired generation
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  Speaker 4: that the Guardian talks about began here In eighteen fifty two,
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  Speaker 4: the floods in Gundagei was some of the worst to
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  Speaker 4: ever hit Australia. Eighty nine people died in that one.
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  Speaker 4: Ninety three in Ipswich in Queensland, thirty five people died.
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  Speaker 4: Fast forward to nineteen sixteen in Claremont and peaked downs
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  Speaker 4: Queensland sixty five debts and if you look at Tari
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  Speaker 4: as a whole in New South Wales, nineteen twenty one
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  Speaker 4: was the highest flood on record at five point seven
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  Speaker 4: meters at peat. It was eclipsed by the nineteen twenty
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  Speaker 4: nine flood at six meters, in twenty twenty one five
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  Speaker 4: point six meters, and of course the latest in the
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  Speaker 4: last few days at six point five.
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  Speaker 3: But the point is the list goes on.
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  Speaker 4: Australia has been flooded many times where a country born
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  Speaker 4: on drought and flooding rains, and this constant common tree
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  Speaker 4: is virtue signaling and it certainly won't help those in
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  Speaker 4: the midst of a cleanup who are still facing a
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  Speaker 4: very real threat, and especially those who have lost loved ones.
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  Speaker 4: People are worried about their lives and homes right now,
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  Speaker 4: as they rightly should be, and this is just pure
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  Speaker 4: idiocy from the usual suspects.
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  Speaker 3: Again, s.
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  Speaker 4: Let's bring in National's leader David Little Proud.
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  Speaker 3: Now, David, but it's good to catch up with you.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining me on the show
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  Speaker 4: this evening. I want to get to the floods in
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  Speaker 4: a moment, but let's begin, of course with the divisions
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  Speaker 4: that we are seeing playing out in the Nationals as
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  Speaker 4: well as the Coalition, but starting with the Nationals over
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  Speaker 4: net zero targets. Barnaby Joyce made some very interesting comments
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  Speaker 4: on sky News this morning. Have a look at what
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  Speaker 4: he said about net zero.
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  Speaker 10: Do you want to know what are you focused on?
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  Speaker 8: Don't like lat zero now, Zero's disasters for our nation,
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  Speaker 8: disasters for everyone.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 4: Yesterday on Sky News, David you said that we shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: give up trying to reduce emissions.
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  Speaker 3: Is your party room really split on this?
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  Speaker 2: No, we've got a party er in position.
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  Speaker 11: But obviously during this period of parliament, like in the
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  Speaker 11: last period, I will continue to review some of those policies,
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  Speaker 11: including net zero, and I think we've got to understand
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  Speaker 11: that the world's finding increasingly more difficult to achieve net
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  Speaker 11: zero by twenty fifty and there's a serious economic impact.
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  Speaker 11: What we need to do is be very sensible about
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  Speaker 11: making sure that we have an energy mix, and that's
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  Speaker 11: why we were very principled about our position with the
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  Speaker 11: Liberal Party moving forward that if you want to have
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  Speaker 11: base load power zero missions, then you should have duculear
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  Speaker 11: energy as part of that mix. You should have a
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  Speaker 11: technology agnostic approach that goes beyond that as well. Can
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  Speaker 11: I say if you look at Japan, they have around
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  Speaker 11: twenty four percent of their grid as nuclear, around thirty.
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  Speaker 2: Percent is renewables, and the balance is Australian gas and coal.
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  Speaker 11: That's been burnt there the carbons being captured and put
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  Speaker 11: back on a boat and taken back to Australia and
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  Speaker 11: put down a whole about one and a half kilometers
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  Speaker 11: down underneath the earth. So you should have a technology
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  Speaker 11: agnostic approach and an all renewables approach will not work.
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  Speaker 11: And if we senselessly go down this path, the economy pays,
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  Speaker 11: and you will pay. Energy is the economy, and so
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  Speaker 11: we need to be pragmatic. We need to be honest
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  Speaker 11: with the Australian people, and the National Party will be
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  Speaker 11: We'll have many more debates on this and other issues,
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  Speaker 11: and we will be prepared to make the tough decisions.
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  Speaker 2: But that'll be predicated by the entirety of the party.
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  Speaker 11: We have, not individuals, not me, not any other individual,
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  Speaker 11: but us as a collective.
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  Speaker 4: All right, well, let's talk about your leadership now again.
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  Speaker 4: I want to play what Barnaby Joyce said this morning.
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  Speaker 4: He said that he will not put his hand up
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  Speaker 4: for a leadership position.
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  Speaker 9: Have a look, I'm not going.
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  Speaker 5: If the party decides to change and no one's run
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  Speaker 5: me up for numbers or inquiring the party decided to change,
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  Speaker 5: change it since our works all.
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  Speaker 4: Right, So Barnaby Joyce is ruling himself out. How confident
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  Speaker 4: are you, David little Proud that you will remain leader
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  Speaker 4: of the party.
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  Speaker 11: Well, I'm pretty relaxed if you look at what I
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  Speaker 11: just did. We didn't flip flop. We stared the Liberal
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  Speaker 11: Party down and we didn't blink. We made it very
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  Speaker 11: clear that if they wanted to re sign the coalition
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  Speaker 11: with us, there were four policy principles.
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  Speaker 2: We couldn't couldn't just let slide by.
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  Speaker 11: We needed a guarantee, a very strong guarantee, and I
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  Speaker 11: didn't have that.
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  Speaker 2: So we will away.
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  Speaker 11: And it wasn't until Thursday morning I had a text
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  Speaker 11: from Susan Leader say can you come around my office?
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  Speaker 2: I want to re litigate where we are.
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  Speaker 11: And she made it very clear to me that she'd
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  Speaker 11: have a party room meeting to try and give me
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  Speaker 11: the certainty the National Party, the certainty that they asked
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  Speaker 11: for In fact, what I've done is delivered. We've got
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  Speaker 11: those four assurances and that now means that the coalition
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  Speaker 11: talks can continue. And I've had constructive talks today with
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  Speaker 11: Susan Lee. We want to be in a coalition, but
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  Speaker 11: I'm not going to walk away from the values and
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  Speaker 11: principles of the people who sent me to Canberra.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not just about energy grid.
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  Speaker 11: That's also about making sure that we have child care
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  Speaker 11: places in regional areas, doctors in regional places, telecommunications that
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  Speaker 11: keep people safe in times of emergency. So I'll stand
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  Speaker 11: by what I've done. I'll stand by my record. I've
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  Speaker 11: made the tough decisions as leader the Nationals. I was
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  Speaker 11: the first one to lead a political party to say
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  Speaker 11: they wouldn't support the voice I stood up on devest,
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  Speaker 11: just stood up to back nuclear. I'm come to my
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  Speaker 11: own skin. I'll put it in front of anybody and
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  Speaker 11: I've just delvered. I've just delivered those policy areas to
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  Speaker 11: the National Party in a coalition agreement. I'll put my
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  Speaker 11: record up and if it's not good enough, I can
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  Speaker 11: live with it.
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  Speaker 3: I completely understand what you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: I guess you know the way that it has played
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  Speaker 4: out over the last week. It's been a very public spat,
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  Speaker 4: he said. She said, I mean it really is like
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  Speaker 4: it was a two day divorce. You know, I've got
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  Speaker 4: to ask what was the point of a two day divorce?
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  Speaker 11: Well, if you get the policies that we want, we
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  Speaker 11: stared them down, we didn't blink and we got them.
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  Speaker 11: You'll tell you what that's worth. That's worth a lot
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  Speaker 11: to people in reagion Australia. So we don't have an
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  Speaker 11: all renewables approach to our energy grid, we actually can
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  Speaker 11: make sure that the mobile phone tails that you, the
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  Speaker 11: Australian taxpayer paid for, actually work in the hour of need.
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  Speaker 11: It's about those child care plays. It's about filling some
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  Speaker 11: potholes for the councils out there. Yeah, and training our
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  Speaker 11: own to be doctors and nurses.
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  Speaker 2: For That's what it's about.
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  Speaker 11: I'd rather come to Canberra and live with some values
• 17:54
  Speaker 11: and principles and look people in the eye that I
• 17:56
  Speaker 11: returned to and represent say you know what, not just
• 17:59
  Speaker 11: be was a political experience I traded away.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I stood by it. I had the.
• 18:03
  Speaker 11: Values and principles that you asked me to to make
• 18:06
  Speaker 11: sure no matter what and there were people in my
• 18:08
  Speaker 11: party room that were going to lose pay, lose position.
• 18:11
  Speaker 11: They were prepared to do it. They were going to
• 18:12
  Speaker 11: lose their job. Some of them they're enjoint center ticket.
• 18:14
  Speaker 11: So I just say, just look at the National Party.
• 18:17
  Speaker 11: Look what we've done.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I gatpared to do no, I guts and we can
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: stand tall.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I get what you're saying, But so are you saying
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: then that you've kissed and made up?
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: This is it?
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Because I know that the Liberals have agreed in principle,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: what exactly does in principle mean? That doesn't sound like
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: it's a one hundred percent done deal.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's something.
• 18:38
  Speaker 11: And I'll take to the party room and Susan and
• 18:40
  Speaker 11: I I've got those form of words that gives us
• 18:43
  Speaker 11: comfort around that being the policy that we took to
• 18:45
  Speaker 11: the last election, which is the.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Wording we sent.
• 18:48
  Speaker 11: My party room will determined that because they're the ones
• 18:50
  Speaker 11: that determined to walk away. And I get there's a
• 18:54
  Speaker 11: couple that said, oh, they didn't agree, and they've made
• 18:57
  Speaker 11: disparaging comments, but this wasn't my decision. It was decision
• 19:00
  Speaker 11: of the vast majority of the party room. So we
• 19:02
  Speaker 11: just need to be respectful of our party room. Our
• 19:05
  Speaker 11: party room makes this determination, not me, but the majority,
• 19:08
  Speaker 11: the vast majority, made this decision. They had the values
• 19:10
  Speaker 11: to stand up and say no, we're not walking away
• 19:12
  Speaker 11: from this. So what I'll do is finalize the rest
• 19:16
  Speaker 11: of the negotiations with Susan Lee. That'll be presented to
• 19:19
  Speaker 11: the party room, and the party room will make their
• 19:20
  Speaker 11: determination whether they wish to re ender the coalition or
• 19:24
  Speaker 11: not in the ensuing days.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: All right, well, we'll be standing by for that one.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Before we let you go, David, I just want to
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: ask you about the flooding crisis. Obviously, the Prime Minister
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: and a number of his ministers out today already blaming
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: it on climate change.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Is that appropriate.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 19:41
  Speaker 11: The immanus is about saving lives and about making sure
• 19:45
  Speaker 11: that we set ourselves up for the recovery.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I was in Kempse.
• 19:48
  Speaker 11: And Maxville on Friday, and I'm hoping I was going
• 19:52
  Speaker 11: to tai tomorrow, but I think the Prime Minister's going
• 19:54
  Speaker 11: there and my.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Trip's been delayed.
• 19:56
  Speaker 11: But what people want on the ground is action, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 11: I want politics. They actually just want people to look
• 20:01
  Speaker 11: after people, and the people who can lead and should
• 20:04
  Speaker 11: lead should be focused on that, not on political points,
• 20:07
  Speaker 11: but just getting on with the job. And I just
• 20:09
  Speaker 11: say to all levels of government this should just be
• 20:12
  Speaker 11: about the immediacy of helping these people in their our
• 20:15
  Speaker 11: need to make sure they get what they need in
• 20:18
  Speaker 11: this great country of ouse.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Absolutely spot on, David little Proud, It's been nice to
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: catch up. Thank you very much for joining me on
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: the show this evening. Really appreciate it. And just on
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: that the flood cleanup is underway. As we've been saying
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: in the Hunter and on the mid North coast of
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: New South Wales, at least four hundred homes and businesses
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: have been deemed uninhabitable. Let's bring in Jeremy Thornton now,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: a Tari resident and insurance broker whose business was damaged
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: in last week's floods.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Really appreciate your time. Jeremy. Firstly, how are you getting on?
• 20:50
  Speaker 12: Look personally, it's one day at a time for me
• 20:52
  Speaker 12: because I'm taking on a lot of the burden that
• 20:54
  Speaker 12: the community is feeling, not just from an insurance point
• 20:57
  Speaker 12: of view but just purely your community point of view.
• 21:00
  Speaker 12: We got pretty hands on from the get go, and yeah,
• 21:03
  Speaker 12: that's taking its toll there's not a lot of sleep
• 21:06
  Speaker 12: going on. Actual work is more reactive instead of proactive.
• 21:10
  Speaker 12: But we're getting boots on the ground from that perspective
• 21:12
  Speaker 12: and starting to slowly.
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: See our way forward. But it's a really really slow
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: trip forward.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I can imagine, and I've heard as well.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: It's just complete MUDs, just thick mud everywhere. I mean,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: surely that must be hampering the efforts to try and
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: clean up.
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah. Absolutely.
• 21:28
  Speaker 12: At the CBD, over the last three days we've cleared
• 21:31
  Speaker 12: out a hell of a lot of it. There's still
• 21:33
  Speaker 12: a lot there, but at least there's some movement around
• 21:35
  Speaker 12: the place, and we're now starting to see some restorers
• 21:37
  Speaker 12: get together. Essential energy are getting really starting to rip
• 21:41
  Speaker 12: in now and get some power going. Just late this upening,
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: we've got our building had some power, so we're really
• 21:46
  Speaker 12: happy about that.
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: But it goes so far and wide.
• 21:49
  Speaker 12: And you've got the residential areas which are only maybe
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: three or four or five blocks away.
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: Then you go out to Wingham, you go out.
• 21:55
  Speaker 12: Towards Harrington, the livestock farming community. The devastation through there
• 22:00
  Speaker 12: been in mud that.
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: Is over their knees and it's still there.
• 22:03
  Speaker 12: So you know, the water has subsided maybe four or
• 22:06
  Speaker 12: five days ago, but the actual challenge, it hasn't gone away.
• 22:10
  Speaker 12: And when I'm hearing just sorry, that kind of hit
• 22:12
  Speaker 12: a nerve. When I'm hearing Anthony Elberneezy talk about climate change.
• 22:16
  Speaker 12: If he is coming here tomorrow, I hope he wants
• 22:18
  Speaker 12: to have that conversation with those people that are hurting
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: right now, because there is you know, up to five
• 22:23
  Speaker 12: hundred people in our region from Kemsey through to cough too.
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry to tare who are really hurting.
• 22:28
  Speaker 12: If they don't want to hear that conversation, they want
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: to hear what their leaders are going to do.
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: We've been really really.
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: Forceful on that lately, and I hope he comes in
• 22:34
  Speaker 12: with some solutions for us.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Well that's it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: I just think it's such an inappropriate time to be
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: having that communication.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Just on that point.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Then, Jeremy, I went, what do you need from your leaders?
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, what does that community need now to try
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: and rebuild?
• 22:50
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well, in the residential areas in particular. And I've
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: only just really just emerged from the CBD because it's
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: been my initial focus and I'd love to be in
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: seven places at the moment. But we've seen a few
• 23:01
  Speaker 12: of those residential areas. There's people again, they're near the
• 23:04
  Speaker 12: center of town. They've actually their entire house is on
• 23:07
  Speaker 12: the street right now and they can't move into their house.
• 23:09
  Speaker 12: We need people to get in and help them out.
• 23:11
  Speaker 12: If there's people coming, they need to come here.
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: Now. We knew this was coming a week ago. How
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: did the community know this was coming here a week ago?
• 23:19
  Speaker 12: And yet here we are a week later and we're
• 23:21
  Speaker 12: still waiting for people to come and help us out.
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: The support that is here now from the SEES and
• 23:26
  Speaker 12: the new South Well state government support can't fault it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: I really can't.
• 23:29
  Speaker 12: And Mid Coast Council Waste Management crews are doing a
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: fantastic job as well. But they should have known pretty
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: early on that this was going to be a huge
• 23:36
  Speaker 12: one and we really needed that support to be coming
• 23:38
  Speaker 12: into town over the weekend.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what a shame then that it hasn't come to
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: us yet.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: But you're right, the Prime Minister is due to visit tomorrow,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: so I guess to be confirmed.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Let's see how it all goes. Jeremy Thornton, I hope
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: all goes well.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: For you up there, and all the very best with
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: the cleanup and the efforts moving forward. Thank you very
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: much for joining me on the show this evening. Really
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: appreciate it.
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: Thanks Tony.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: We're coming up after the break.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: As I mentioned at the start of the show, power
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: prices are set to rise again.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I'll get analysis from an energy expert next. Welcome back.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Well, as I mentioned earlier, Labor is having us on
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: again with its renewables only experiment because electricity prices are
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: set to rise again thanks to a massive surge in
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: the cost of building transmission lines by up to fifty
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: five percent. And of course who pays for it, You
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: and I the consumer. Joining me now for more on
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: this is Aiden Morrison, energy program director at the Center
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: for Independent Studies. Aiden, really good to see you. Thank
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: you so much for joining me. So here we go
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: again with this renewables roll out. I mean, at every
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: level it is facing a mountain of challenges and now
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: with transmission lines. What's your read on this latest disaster
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: under the renewables fantasy.
• 24:55
  Speaker 13: Look, we're just seeing unfold what we always thought would happen.
• 24:58
  Speaker 13: And I think there's two reasons now why these tra
• 25:00
  Speaker 13: mission line costs are starting to emerge as just way
• 25:02
  Speaker 13: higher than they were initially have a priced which are always unrealistic.
• 25:05
  Speaker 13: The first is the projects actually grow themselves. So there
• 25:09
  Speaker 13: was this fantastic idea that we just provide one link
• 25:11
  Speaker 13: into the countryside and then all the other generators would
• 25:14
  Speaker 13: sort of link themselves into the grid. What's happened in
• 25:16
  Speaker 13: reality is that link gets expanded, so we pay for
• 25:19
  Speaker 13: the transmission lines to run right into all the generation
• 25:22
  Speaker 13: projects that happen out in the countryside. So these projects
• 25:25
  Speaker 13: go from an initial simple tie to a big matted
• 25:28
  Speaker 13: web in the countryside, and that increases the costs and
• 25:31
  Speaker 13: also the prices blow out. And the latest report from
• 25:34
  Speaker 13: the market operator makes it very clear that's a consequence
• 25:37
  Speaker 13: of trying to build everything at once, which is exactly
• 25:40
  Speaker 13: what's happening in this rushed rollout of masses of renewables.
• 25:44
  Speaker 13: When everything has to be built before twenty thirty, there's
• 25:46
  Speaker 13: huge competition for all the materials, all the contractors, all
• 25:50
  Speaker 13: the management. Massive competition, which means that there's basically price
• 25:53
  Speaker 13: hikes for all the contractors and labor and materials, So
• 25:55
  Speaker 13: the prices go up a lot. And that's what's happening
• 25:57
  Speaker 13: right here. It's a consequence of the rush, and it's
• 26:00
  Speaker 13: inevitable consequence. Prices are going massively up.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and you know you mentioned what's happening on the
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: land already. We need ten thousand kilometers of these transmission
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: lines to get to the renewables targets, but the projects
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: so far behind, only half will be delivered in the
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: next decade.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: And aiden it's actually the farmers.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Who will suffer here, won't it because it's razoring through
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: their lands.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
• 26:27
  Speaker 13: And if you go and talk to some farmers, and
• 26:29
  Speaker 13: I have every time, I'm absolutely shocked at the depth
• 26:32
  Speaker 13: and strength of the feeling against these projects and the
• 26:34
  Speaker 13: transmission lines and all the wind and sol that comes
• 26:36
  Speaker 13: with them, the number of different ways in which interrupts
• 26:39
  Speaker 13: their operations and interrupts their lifestyle. It's not just the
• 26:42
  Speaker 13: simple things like the vision and the noise of seeing
• 26:45
  Speaker 13: this kind of stuff operating, also moving machinery around. How
• 26:48
  Speaker 13: do you move around in bushfires? How do you get
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: water bumming aircraft? How do you dust your crops and
• 26:53
  Speaker 13: apply fertilized and treatments when you've got different wakes from
• 26:56
  Speaker 13: turbulence from the wind farms. There's so many different things
• 26:59
  Speaker 13: and I think that the the countryside is really really
• 27:02
  Speaker 13: committed against this, and so I think that how on
• 27:05
  Speaker 13: earth this continues with I suppose the city thinking this
• 27:08
  Speaker 13: is great for the environment, but the people on the
• 27:09
  Speaker 13: land are absolutely feeling the pain. It's quite remarkable.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. Now we know as well. Prices are going up.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: It's been confirmed today, it's been signed off by the
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Australian Energy Regulator for its default market operator, so prices
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: are going up by up to nine point.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Seven percent from July one.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: You know, realisticly aated how much longer can labor keep
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: up this facade because power bills have actually increased by
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: up to one thousand dollars over the last three years
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: and it just keeps getting higher and higher.
• 27:43
  Speaker 13: That's a really good question. And in the highest of
• 27:45
  Speaker 13: ironies at the moment, it's actually New South Wales of
• 27:48
  Speaker 13: the highest costs are going up for they're the ones
• 27:51
  Speaker 13: that are experiencing nine a little over nine percent increases.
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: The other states are tiny bit less and there's a
• 27:56
  Speaker 13: simple reason for that. It's not actually Labour's fault in
• 27:58
  Speaker 13: New South Wales. It's Matt Keanes renewable energy plan, the
• 28:01
  Speaker 13: roadmap he's rolled out in New South Wales that is
• 28:04
  Speaker 13: now finally coming to buy it. This is the first
• 28:06
  Speaker 13: time we've had one of these major state projects to
• 28:08
  Speaker 13: fund huge rollout of renewable energy outside of the normal
• 28:12
  Speaker 13: cost benefit analyses, and those costs are finally falling due
• 28:16
  Speaker 13: in New South Wales, which is why they're experiencing the
• 28:18
  Speaker 13: highest price rises. So Matt Kean basically made his policy
• 28:23
  Speaker 13: and his whole career in New South Wales Energy Minister,
• 28:25
  Speaker 13: all about the competitive advantage that New South Wales should
• 28:28
  Speaker 13: have for its ridiculously low cost energy, and now it's
• 28:32
  Speaker 13: turning out they have the highest price rises because of
• 28:35
  Speaker 13: the renewable energy infrastructure that he's pushed onto consumers here,
• 28:40
  Speaker 13: so very ironic. Unfortunately, it's actually Matt Kean's policy. It
• 28:43
  Speaker 13: has been called out in this particular default market offer.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, terrific and obviously a former Liberal as well, and
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: now head of the heading up this climate Changer or
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: authority and setting all these guidelines and these targets. So
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: it's just absolute ridiculous. Adam Morrison, it's been good to
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: catch up. Thank you very much for joining me on
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: the show this evening. Really appreciate it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: We're coming up after.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: The break, Netball Victoria becomes the latest sport to investigate
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: where the trans athletes pose safety risks to players, And
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: we'll go live to London where Nigel Faraj is issued
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: a challenge to Kirstama.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I'll have more details on that next Welcome back.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Well, Victoria's peak Netball body is launching an investigation to
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: find out whether men identifying as women pose a safety
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: threat to female competitors.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Now. It comes after Melton South players.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Threatened to boycott games against Melton Central, whose team features.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: To trans women.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Melton South Netball coordinator Melissa Dawson said quote one of
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: the transgender players.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Is six foot something. It's ridiculous.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Netball Victoria needs to put the safety of biological females first.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: And well she's not wrong.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Here we go again, because what this says is that
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: men's feel are more important than women's safety.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: It says that men's feelings.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Are more important than a woman's right to affair and
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: even match, and yet male competitors in women's leagues are
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: protected under policies in this country. Joining me now is
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Stephanie Bastian, head of Advocacy at Women's Forum Australia, Stephanie.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Good to see you, Thank you very much for joining me.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Look is it about time that these sporting leagues, like
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: what we're seeing here start fighting back.
• 30:28
  Speaker 14: Well, good evening, Tony, great to join you. Yes it is.
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: I'm very pleased to see that these teams are hiding back,
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: parents are speaking out, players are threatening to boycott, teams
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: are threatening to withdraw. But it's disappointing that it has
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: to come to this in order to get action. We've
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: had big changes overseas with protecting women's fought in the US,
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: the whole gender issue in the UK has come to
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: a head, and yet here we are still in Australia
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: where men are identifying into women's sports spaces, so on,
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: so forth. So well done to them, these players for
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: speaking up and for pushing back, and I hope we
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: see more of it so that we can get further
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: action to protect women's sport.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and just on that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: But what does it say about sporting bodies in this
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: country and the way that biological men are protected in
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: these women's leagues.
• 31:22
  Speaker 14: I think that there's two categories.
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: I think there are some sporting clubs that are ideologically
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: captured and they're prioritizing diversity and inclusion over fairness and
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: safety for women and girls. But I think there is
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: also an undercurrent of fear of litigation. The problem we
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: have is that the laws conflict with each other. State
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: legislation with federal legislation, and the Sex Discrimination Act does
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: have provisions on the basis of things like stamina and strength,
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: but they still have to prove that that is relevant
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: to these particular competitions. It shouldn't be up to sporting
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: clubs to have to face litigation in order to work
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: out whether they can legally discrimination discriminate against males.
• 32:01
  Speaker 14: To protect female sport, we need clarity in the law.
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: We need to reinstate biological definitions into the Sex Discrimination Act,
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: and we need to scrap these so called protected provisions
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: all together and have a blanket support for women's sport.
• 32:18
  Speaker 14: As its own category.
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: And if other clubs want to be more open, they
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: can have these open categories or mixed sporting teams.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I absolutely agree, and I from my perspective, I
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: just think it was a shame that this wasn't an
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: election issue. I mean, I know Peter Dutton mentioned it
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: very early on in the campaign, but he never pursued
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: it and it never became a policy announcement like what
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: we saw overseas. So you know, and here we are,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: and this is just going to keep happening unless something happens.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: I want to ask you on another matter, A woman
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: who underwent a sex change, including the removal of her
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: breast to become a man, before detransitioning to live as
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: a female again, is now suing two doctors and Monash
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Health for negligence.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Male Jeffreys' claims that the.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Medical practitioners did not take into account her mental health
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: issues when they helped her change sex, and that those
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: issues were made worse by the testosterone she was prescribed
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: and by the surgery.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: It's Deephanie putting this case aside.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: What does it say about the dangers of transitioning and
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: the irreversible damage?
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 33:21
  Speaker 14: Absolutely, if you get it wrong, it's devastating.
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: You have young women who are being rendered infertile, they've
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: lost their capacity to breastfeed if they go on to
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: become mothers. I think this case really highlights just how
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: flimsy the evidence is for the gender clinics and the
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: way that they're operating.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: We've seen a number of cases emerge.
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: There was a case in Melbourne where a twelve year
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: old boy was going to be put on testosterone without
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: a gender dysphoria diagnosis. These clinics are operating on ideological
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: basis rather than evidence, and the evidence shows that people
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: do regret their transitions, that the cause of the you know,
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: the side effects of the drugs and the surgeries are
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: irreversible and damaging and causing no end.
• 34:05
  Speaker 14: I mean mel Jeffrey says she now lives with post PTSD.
• 34:10
  Speaker 14: This is not good enough.
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: The cast review highlighted that there were issues that these
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: practices should not be going on. The evidence is also
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: here in Australia and it's time that we had a
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: national review into.
• 34:22
  Speaker 15: The practices going on these clinics because they're not evidence
• 34:29
  Speaker 15: based and they're causing irreversible harm to young people.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, they really are your spot on. Stephanie Bastrian, thank
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: you very much for joining me on the show this evening.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Really appreciate your time. Well, let's head to London now and.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Catch up with News Corps Europe correspondent and Sky News
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: contributor Sophie Elsworth.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Sophie, nice to see you.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining me fresh off reform
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: UK is of course unprecedented and amazing women the council elections.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: Nigel Farage has now issued a challenge to Kiir starm
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: whats he said?
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: You're great to be with you, Janika.
• 35:04
  Speaker 16: Look, he's come out and said that he wants to
• 35:07
  Speaker 16: challenge Sirkia in basically them coming head to head in
• 35:11
  Speaker 16: North England and having a robust debate because he believes
• 35:16
  Speaker 16: that the Prime Minister cannot connect with working class and
• 35:21
  Speaker 16: real British people and he's saying they need to go
• 35:24
  Speaker 16: head to head so they can have a challenge here
• 35:27
  Speaker 16: and a debate for the public to see. But look, Danika,
• 35:30
  Speaker 16: I highly doubt that the Prime Minister will agree to this,
• 35:33
  Speaker 16: but he must be very concerned because Nigel Farage is
• 35:37
  Speaker 16: continuing to build momentum. He's surfing in on policies that
• 35:42
  Speaker 16: are unfavorable to the Labor government. For instance the scrapping
• 35:46
  Speaker 16: of the winter fuel payment subsidy. There's now looking at
• 35:51
  Speaker 16: reinstating this.
• 35:52
  Speaker 10: So there's been some.
• 35:53
  Speaker 16: Very unpopular decisions by the Labor government and Nigel Farage
• 35:57
  Speaker 16: is really coming in and trying to snare some of
• 36:00
  Speaker 16: those left wing voters.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, clearly, I would say as well, so that the
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: internal polling must be pretty bad right now for Keir Starmer,
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: he must be very, very worried. Now let's move on,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: because Tottenham fans have given Ossie coaching hero Ange Posta
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Coglo a big welcome home, and you were lucky enough
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: to be there.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Let's have a look.
• 36:30
  Speaker 13: He full home a cup and all of us, and
• 36:34
  Speaker 13: we now look in the child to see if he
• 36:36
  Speaker 13: improved himself in.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: The next year.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I personally would love to see him stay.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I think the media can be pretty harrish. I reckon, Sophie,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: You've got the best job in the world.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: You're at every single fantastic Then I've got to say,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: but how good for ange Posta Coglo. You know, aside
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: from so much criticism he's received the past, he's now
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: a hero on the world stage.
• 37:00
  Speaker 10: Bull Look, Denika.
• 37:01
  Speaker 16: I was very fortunate to be at the street party
• 37:04
  Speaker 16: in North London at Tottenham where their home stadium is,
• 37:07
  Speaker 16: on Friday after they won the Europa League title, and
• 37:12
  Speaker 16: the fans were going absolutely berserk for Angeposta conglu.
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: They're chanting his name on repeat.
• 37:18
  Speaker 16: Many of them I spoke to and they don't want
• 37:20
  Speaker 16: him going anywhere. But the problem here is that in
• 37:24
  Speaker 16: the English Premier League they have done really poorly. They
• 37:27
  Speaker 16: have finished seventeenth on the ladder this season. They lost
• 37:31
  Speaker 16: one four yesterday to Brighton. They've had a horror English
• 37:35
  Speaker 16: Premier League season. So he's not out of the woods
• 37:38
  Speaker 16: in terms of his career. But he obviously had this
• 37:42
  Speaker 16: victory in Spain last week where they won the Europa
• 37:45
  Speaker 16: League title. And I've got to say, Danika, if he
• 37:49
  Speaker 16: is booted out of the club, there'll be a lot
• 37:51
  Speaker 16: of irate fans because they love this Aussie. They love
• 37:54
  Speaker 16: that he's direct, they love his demeanor. He's hugely popular
• 37:58
  Speaker 16: here in the UK. However, a lot of the media
• 38:00
  Speaker 16: are very critical of him. So time will tell if
• 38:03
  Speaker 16: ange Postakoglu will stay at the club after delivering this
• 38:07
  Speaker 16: silver ware the first time in seventeen years.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, see if he stands a test of time.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: We're almost out of time ourselves, so but just quickly.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Megan Markel, apparently her attempt to get on the cover
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: of Vogue has failed due to her long list of demands.
• 38:23
  Speaker 16: Well, Yesternika, she was proposed to be on a Vogue
• 38:27
  Speaker 16: cover here in Britain, but she wanted to be on
• 38:29
  Speaker 16: the cover. Also in America, Vogue said no, they weren't
• 38:33
  Speaker 16: warm into this idea.
• 38:35
  Speaker 10: She had a whole list of demands that she wanted
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: to do.
• 38:37
  Speaker 16: This cover and it ended in tears, as it always
• 38:40
  Speaker 16: does with Meghan Markle.
• 38:42
  Speaker 10: So it's again showing she's very difficult to work with.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't know why they possessed with her, still
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: on trying to get her on covers of magazines and
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: doing interviews with her, because she seems extremely difficult.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Sophie Elsworth, it's been really nice to catch up with you.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me on the show
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: this evening. I appreciate it.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Coming up after the break, my panel will discuss the
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: coalition's rocky relationship plus Chris Bowen in hot water with Catholics.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: That's next.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Let's bring in our panel now, Gematonini from GT Communications
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: and WA Liberal Party president and Royal Report host Caroline Derusso.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Hiight to both of you. Thanks for joining me. I've
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: got to say a moment to me, a moment for
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: the Motherland. Three Italians on the panel tonight.
• 39:28
  Speaker 17: West Australians, West Australians.
• 39:30
  Speaker 18: Only three ex West Australia. Well one, I'm current West Australians. Two, three,
• 39:36
  Speaker 18: three proud Italo Australians here flying the flag for our
• 39:41
  Speaker 18: people and.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: All very shy and very very shy, three very shy women.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: You're spot on.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Now, Look, let's just hearten with the coalition. Of course
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: they're they're reuniting. I mean in principle, they say. But
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: there's certainly a lot of tension you can tell, I guess,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: mainly over climate targets and how that's going to now play.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Caroline.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: We had Barnaby Joyce on Sky News today. He's adamant
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: that he wants net zero scrapped. David little Proud says, no,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: we must stick with reducing emissions. But how do you
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: think this is going to work out with the Liberals
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: who want to win back in a city seats from independence.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, can they even scrap that zero and still
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: win back seats.
• 40:20
  Speaker 17: I think the main thing here, Deniker, is to get
• 40:23
  Speaker 17: everyone in orderly enough a situation that they can actually
• 40:26
  Speaker 17: have that conversation and ultimately, yeah, it might be a
• 40:31
  Speaker 17: state president, but that there is well and truly within
• 40:34
  Speaker 17: the remit of the parliamentary Party. I'm very glad the
• 40:37
  Speaker 17: three day war of last week is over. And look,
• 40:41
  Speaker 17: have the conversations, have the hard conversations. And the thing is,
• 40:44
  Speaker 17: in both the Liberal Party and the National Party, we're
• 40:47
  Speaker 17: allowed to disagree.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: So you know, ultimately that decision will be made, that
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: will be made within.
• 40:54
  Speaker 17: That group of people, and we'll have to get to
• 40:56
  Speaker 17: a point that everyone is reasonably happy with because you know,
• 41:00
  Speaker 17: you can have certain beliefs one way or the other,
• 41:03
  Speaker 17: and we all do. But the simple fact of the
• 41:05
  Speaker 17: matter is you've got to win the votes out there,
• 41:08
  Speaker 17: and so sometimes we have to temper the things that
• 41:12
  Speaker 17: you know, we would we think, or we would like.
• 41:14
  Speaker 17: And that's not to say that you're abandon your principles,
• 41:17
  Speaker 17: but you also have to make yourself electorally viable, and
• 41:20
  Speaker 17: that there, I'm very glad, is the remit of that
• 41:24
  Speaker 17: particular group.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I completely agree with you and Jemma, you know the
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: coalition claim, okay, we've kissed and made up. I think
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: they need to stop talking about themselves and get back
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: to talking about labor. But what is this whole saga
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: done in your view to the credibility of the coalition,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: especially off the back of that disastrous election loss.
• 41:42
  Speaker 18: Well, it's like watching your mates break up and going
• 41:46
  Speaker 18: through you know, like that stage of hating each other,
• 41:49
  Speaker 18: and they go off to the pub and they get
• 41:50
  Speaker 18: three sheets to the win with their mates and then
• 41:52
  Speaker 18: they come and talk it out. Look, it's been highly unedifying.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: But I will say this. I will say this, it's
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: almost like.
• 41:59
  Speaker 18: The temper separation that needed to happen for thirty seconds.
• 42:03
  Speaker 18: I have said consistently since the election debacle, and I
• 42:07
  Speaker 18: wrote about it in The Australian the following week as
• 42:10
  Speaker 18: a Liberal voter who is a conviction liberal voter, and
• 42:13
  Speaker 18: by that I mean I believe that conservative politics broadly
• 42:16
  Speaker 18: offers a better pathway for societies to flourish. But someone
• 42:20
  Speaker 18: who's not a member of the Liberal Party, he doesn't
• 42:22
  Speaker 18: seek pre selection office or a safe or an unsafe seat.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Stop talking about yourselves. I don't care.
• 42:28
  Speaker 18: I don't care aboutny factions. I don't care about any
• 42:30
  Speaker 18: backroom deals. I don't care about the people who think
• 42:32
  Speaker 18: that they're power brokers but they're too gutless to come
• 42:34
  Speaker 18: out of the shadows and actually put their proverbial on
• 42:36
  Speaker 18: the block and play in the real game with people
• 42:39
  Speaker 18: who are prepared to put their name to what they say.
• 42:41
  Speaker 18: Don't care about any of it. I want good policy.
• 42:43
  Speaker 18: I want policy that is going to stand up, and
• 42:45
  Speaker 18: I want broad reform that is for the greater good
• 42:48
  Speaker 18: of this country over the longer term.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: I think time to regroup and get back to business
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: and get back to calling out labor because there's a
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: lot of issues there already, especially with any policy. Now, look,
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: this next story involves you, Caroline. Apparently Tom White, the
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Liberal candidate for Curtain over there who failed to win
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: the seat from till Kate Cheney, wants your job as
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: WA Liberal Party president.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: What's going on over there?
• 43:16
  Speaker 17: Oh well, I think I think, you know, I think
• 43:20
  Speaker 17: it's it's there's always a little bit of post election wobbles.
• 43:24
  Speaker 17: I think that the fact is, Taneka, is that under
• 43:29
  Speaker 17: our party constitution here in Wa, you're entitled to a
• 43:32
  Speaker 17: maximum of four one year terms. And each year I
• 43:36
  Speaker 17: go to state conference and as I have done for
• 43:39
  Speaker 17: the last couple and you you nominate. But it's it's
• 43:42
  Speaker 17: an open election and anyone can do that and you're
• 43:46
  Speaker 17: elected or you're unopposed, you know, at at the grace
• 43:49
  Speaker 17: of state conference, and that there is something that none
• 43:52
  Speaker 17: of us should.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Ever take for granted.
• 43:55
  Speaker 17: I've said that I intend to renominate and go round again,
• 43:59
  Speaker 17: and and you.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Know I have to do the work ahead of.
• 44:02
  Speaker 17: That state conference to ensure that I still have that support,
• 44:05
  Speaker 17: and I have been well supported so far. But I'll
• 44:08
  Speaker 17: tell you what, It's not something you take for granted
• 44:10
  Speaker 17: around here now.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Of course, Well, wish you good luck then with your
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: bid for reelection there. Now, let's move on to Victoria
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: because the sale of machetes will be banned from lunchtime
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: on Wednesday after a brawl broke out between rival gang
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: members at a shopping center yesterday.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: This baffled me, Jemma.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: You know, youth crime, brawling, gangs, it's not new. It's
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: been going on for so long in Victoria. And yet
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: just Interallan thinks that by banning machetes suddenly the problem solved.
• 44:39
  Speaker 18: Well, I was a bit confused Janieker as to why
• 44:42
  Speaker 18: machetes were not already banned festival, Like, who realistically has
• 44:48
  Speaker 18: a legitimate need to go out to the shops and
• 44:50
  Speaker 18: go I'm going to get a bottle of milk, some
• 44:52
  Speaker 18: bread and a machete. It's not something you need on
• 44:55
  Speaker 18: any given day. The Victorian governments problems, and by extension,
• 45:01
  Speaker 18: the problems of the state of Victoria are legion. They
• 45:05
  Speaker 18: are not of anyone else's making, simply by the fact
• 45:08
  Speaker 18: that labor has been in power for seventy billion years
• 45:11
  Speaker 18: in that state. If Victoria was a listed entity, it
• 45:14
  Speaker 18: would be in receivership right now. I think people need
• 45:17
  Speaker 18: to remember just how dire the state's finances are. But
• 45:20
  Speaker 18: the social problems, all of the layers of the young
• 45:22
  Speaker 18: and that are just unpeeling one after another. And yet
• 45:25
  Speaker 18: this premier in her government, you know, they rock up
• 45:28
  Speaker 18: in front of media and in front of voters every
• 45:30
  Speaker 18: day of every week and pretend that everything's fine. It's
• 45:33
  Speaker 18: a terrible, terrible government that has reached terrible, you know,
• 45:38
  Speaker 18: damage upon the people that it's elected to serve. It's
• 45:41
  Speaker 18: not serving them at all.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: No, it's absolutely not.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: And just since Allen should know that this has been
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: a long standing issue, I just think that she's in
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: trouble at the moment in the polling, and so she's
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: trying to look like she's actually doing something.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Now, look, I want to talk about Chris Bowen.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: I spoke about this earlier he's now in trouble with
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Catholics after he was photograph getting stuck into a bowl
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: of pasta during Mass. Now he was at the Italian
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: festival Festa della Republica in Sydney when he chowed down
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: on this pasta in the front row. Look at him there,
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: for goodness sake, in the middle of a Mass, and
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: the presiding priest took a swipe at the minister, saying
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: that he needs to have more respect for the sacredness
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: of the place. Gee, Caroline, who would have thought the
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: guy is so arrogant?
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: What is he doing?
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 46:27
  Speaker 17: The priest just could have stop with he needs to
• 46:29
  Speaker 17: have more respect, full stop, because then that would have
• 46:32
  Speaker 17: dealt with that particular circumstances and a raft of others.
• 46:35
  Speaker 17: The bit that I love was his comment that he
• 46:37
  Speaker 17: didn't know he was in mass. I mean, I find
• 46:40
  Speaker 17: that bit absolutely extraordinary. Did you How can you not
• 46:45
  Speaker 17: know that you're in the middle of some sort of
• 46:48
  Speaker 17: religious ceremony, like on what little planet are you living in?
• 46:52
  Speaker 17: Or you're so far inside your own little head that
• 46:54
  Speaker 17: you didn't.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Notice you were in Mass?
• 46:57
  Speaker 17: And I feel like that there again gives us a
• 47:01
  Speaker 17: bit of an insight into mister Bowen's thinking more broadly,
• 47:05
  Speaker 17: because he's obviously very interested in his own trough as
• 47:09
  Speaker 17: he was with that particular bowl of pasta, to really
• 47:12
  Speaker 17: know what's going else is going on around him.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you said, what planet is he living on?
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: He's on some sort of renewables only fantasy planet. Clearly,
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, Gemma, what was he thinking?
• 47:22
  Speaker 18: Seriously, I've never met the man, so I can't pretend
• 47:27
  Speaker 18: to know what he was thinking. But I do question
• 47:29
  Speaker 18: someone who who would you know, maybe take a cue
• 47:33
  Speaker 18: from around the room and look and see how many
• 47:35
  Speaker 18: other people are snacking down on a bowl of pasta
• 47:37
  Speaker 18: during a mass. And I don't accept, respectfully that he
• 47:40
  Speaker 18: didn't know he was in a mass. It's pretty hard
• 47:41
  Speaker 18: to not know if you're in the middle of a
• 47:43
  Speaker 18: Catholic Mass. Can I tell you that it's just you know,
• 47:47
  Speaker 18: to your previous point, Danika, about the Liberal Party and
• 47:49
  Speaker 18: the Coalition Party between Jim Chalmers and Chris Bowen, they've
• 47:53
  Speaker 18: got enough to win elections for the next next decade,
• 47:55
  Speaker 18: but you know, there's got to get their heads up
• 47:57
  Speaker 18: there out of their own backsides to be able to
• 47:59
  Speaker 18: notice that there's all of this fodder that is a
• 48:02
  Speaker 18: low hanging fruit. I mean a low hanging fruit. The
• 48:04
  Speaker 18: story that broake this afternoon about power prices are going
• 48:07
  Speaker 18: to go up another nine percent, another nine percent, And yeah,
• 48:12
  Speaker 18: I just as to what he was thinking, you tell me,
• 48:14
  Speaker 18: but by his behavior, this is what I would say,
• 48:17
  Speaker 18: is an Italian just that?
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, I mean, as us three Italians. I mean,
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty shocked by this as well. And you're right,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: you know, power prices are going up once again, and
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: the minister in charge who has come out of witness
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: protection in the last week after being hidden throughout the
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: election campaign, it suddenly is eating pasta and the front
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: row of a mass I mean, unbelievable. Gemmer and Caroline,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: good to see. Thank you so much for joining me
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: on the show. Well that's all we've got time for today.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: I'll be back to get at five o'clock tomorrow. Now
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: here's Peter Kredlin.