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- 0:43Speaker 2: Yeah, in twenty nineteen, my life changed buying real estate,
- 0:47Speaker 2: doing all these great things. I understood the value of
- 0:49Speaker 2: having real estate and wanting to hand it over to
- 0:52Speaker 2: my legacy, to create a legacy with that. But once
- 0:55Speaker 2: I actually went to create a living trust and I
- 0:59Speaker 2: saw what it can do, That's when I knew I
- 1:01Speaker 2: had a bigger narrative I needed to share with the people.
- 1:04Speaker 2: So my thing was I looked at who created a
- 1:08Speaker 2: living trust to hand it down through their legacy, and
- 1:11Speaker 2: I said, it's Rockefeller. So I went on to read
- 1:14Speaker 2: the Rockefeller Trust from nineteen thirty four, and also there's.
- 1:17Speaker 3: A book called What would Rockefeller Do?
- 1:19Speaker 2: So I stayed up reading all these things about how
- 1:21Speaker 2: he would take this, put it in an account and
- 1:23Speaker 2: only give a portion to the legacy, and then have
- 1:26Speaker 2: his children create a trust. And now that money compound interest.
- 1:29Speaker 2: He wouldn't give it to him until they turn a
- 1:31Speaker 2: certain age. And I'm like, I could do that.
- 1:34Speaker 3: We can do that.
- 1:36Speaker 2: The information was right there. So I sat down with
- 1:37Speaker 2: my trust attorney. I said, I want to do that, Like, well,
- 1:40Speaker 2: you want to do it, but I want to do that.
- 1:42Speaker 3: It can be done.
- 1:43Speaker 2: So we structured it, worked it out where if not
- 1:47Speaker 2: if but unfortunately we all pass away. When I pass away,
- 1:51Speaker 2: a percentage of my properties would be sold, not the
- 1:54Speaker 2: ones that I hold long term, like I have properties
- 1:57Speaker 2: I do keep my short term properties those would be sold.
- 2:00Speaker 2: That money would now go into a brokerage account. That
- 2:04Speaker 2: brokerage account would be in the name of the trust.
- 2:07Speaker 2: That money for that specific account would be for my
- 2:10Speaker 2: grandchildren starting off, not my immediate family. My immediate family
- 2:14Speaker 2: would get my life insurance policies, which are millions of
- 2:17Speaker 2: dollars policies and the main properties that I hold, So
- 2:20Speaker 2: they are taken care of. But we need to start
- 2:23Speaker 2: thinking about the grandkids, the great grandkids, those generations.
- 2:27Speaker 3: How do you start their growth? You start their.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Growth by putting that money in a brokerage account, and
- 2:31Speaker 2: they don't get that money until they turn twenty one
- 2:34Speaker 2: years old. So let's use the example of a million dollars.
- 2:37Speaker 2: I put a million dollars in a brokerage account for
- 2:39Speaker 2: my grandkids. They don't get that till they turn twenty one,
- 2:41Speaker 2: gaining six percent interest six percent interest.
- 2:45Speaker 3: They say, that's twenty one.
- 2:46Speaker 2: So that money turns up to about three point eight
- 2:48Speaker 2: million dollars for my grandkids.
- 2:50Speaker 3: My grandkids, they wouldn't get it all that we could have.
- 2:53Speaker 2: By one point six till I leave one point six
- 2:55Speaker 2: in there for my great grandchildren for twenty one years,
- 3:00Speaker 2: turns into about three four five six. That turns into
- 3:02Speaker 2: about six point seven million dollars for my great grandchildren.
- 3:07Speaker 2: They don't get it all they could have, So now
- 3:09Speaker 2: that's about one point one know about two point two
- 3:13Speaker 2: point three two point three stays in for my great
- 3:16Speaker 2: great grandchildren so they get about eight point one million dollars.
- 3:20Speaker 2: You see how that happens. That's compound interest over twenty
- 3:23Speaker 2: one years. So we have to look at that number.
- 3:26Speaker 2: But what makes the trigger and the explosion even bigger
- 3:30Speaker 2: is the fact that what Rockefeller did is that was
- 3:33Speaker 2: just his trust. What he did was, now each children
- 3:37Speaker 2: opened up, each child opened up a trust. So now
- 3:40Speaker 2: his children had a trust, so he would pay his grandchildren,
- 3:43Speaker 2: and his children would pay them.
- 3:44Speaker 3: That's twice.
- 3:45Speaker 2: So now his grand his children, then his grandchildren have
- 3:48Speaker 2: a trust, so his great grandchildren would get paid three times.
- 3:51Speaker 2: So now if we look at rockefeller trust paid out
- 3:53Speaker 2: now eleven generations and counting continuously. And what he also
- 3:58Speaker 2: did was have a life insurance policy on every person
- 4:01Speaker 2: in the trust, creating his own bank.
- 4:04Speaker 3: And now what does that do. This is my structure.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Also, any one of my children or grandchildren who want
- 4:09Speaker 2: to start a business, what do they do? Talk to
- 4:11Speaker 2: the trustees and now you borrow money. We become our
- 4:14Speaker 2: own bank. So when someone dies, that money goes into
- 4:17Speaker 2: the trust. You pay when you get the policy, you
- 4:20Speaker 2: pay it outright, So now that money is available in
- 4:22Speaker 2: the trust. So now also what I did was I
- 4:24Speaker 2: retweaked my trust last year, and it was twenty one
- 4:28Speaker 2: that I wouldn't give them money.
- 4:29Speaker 3: I changed it.
- 4:30Speaker 2: I changed the way they get money at eighteen and
- 4:32Speaker 2: they can have a business started at eleven. You know
- 4:35Speaker 2: why because now with technology, kids are now figuring out
- 4:38Speaker 2: new ways to start a business.
- 4:40Speaker 3: So I want them to be able to.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Present a business loan, a business proposal to the trustees
- 4:45Speaker 2: so they could borrow money. These are the things where
- 4:48Speaker 2: we don't look at them. When people say I don't
- 4:49Speaker 2: have the money to do this. You know what, I
- 4:51Speaker 2: tell them, Yes, you do. The here you breathe is money,
- 4:55Speaker 2: a life insurance policy. Soon as you die, you worth money.
- 4:59Speaker 2: They are general and there are groups of people when
- 5:01Speaker 2: people die, their objectives to make sure they have a
- 5:03Speaker 2: policy on their grandmother, policy on their father, to do
- 5:06Speaker 2: exactly what we're talking about. But we look at this
- 5:08Speaker 2: taboo when it can't be taboo. It shouldn't be taboo.
- 5:11Speaker 2: The main thing about it is you're thinking about the legacy.
- 5:14Speaker 2: And when I tell people, when I speak to you,
- 5:16Speaker 2: I'm not speaking you don't speaking to.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Your leg legacy. You're just a vessel for me to
- 5:19Speaker 3: get the message to you.
- 5:21Speaker 2: So you can hear the message and see it and
- 5:24Speaker 2: it reverberates in your brain. And as it's doing this,
- 5:27Speaker 2: you literally are talking to your legacy. While I'm speaking,
- 5:29Speaker 2: going I got you, don't worry. Storm told me how
- 5:33Speaker 2: to do it. Now I'm gonna give me a life
- 5:34Speaker 2: insurance policy. When people have a life insurance policy, let's
- 5:37Speaker 2: say roughly four million dollars, you have half a million
- 5:40Speaker 2: dollars left on your home mortgage, and you say to yourself,
- 5:43Speaker 2: I'm leaving my family a million dollar. Actually you're not,
- 5:47Speaker 2: because when you die, that policy has to pay half
- 5:50Speaker 2: a million to the mortgage so they can stay in
- 5:51Speaker 2: the house. You're only leaving them half a million dollars.
- 5:54Speaker 2: We don't think about that mortgage behind us. So this
- 5:57Speaker 2: is where I say, get yourself a whole life. Excuse me,
- 6:00Speaker 2: get yourself a term that's for a half a million
- 6:03Speaker 2: or a million dollars just to cover the house so
- 6:06Speaker 2: your real policy doesn't get broken up. And now you
- 6:09Speaker 2: have that term, pay off the mortgage, any money left,
- 6:12Speaker 2: put it in a broken's account, and now you start
- 6:14Speaker 2: the system.
- 6:16Speaker 4: So let's stay on this conversation about the trust for
- 6:17Speaker 4: a minute. So irrevocable life insurance trust or.
- 6:21Speaker 2: A revocable Let's just start off as a revocable voc
- 6:24Speaker 2: because you want to be able to.
- 6:24Speaker 4: Say something because you and you can change it. Yes,
- 6:28Speaker 4: all right, So all right, so who shut this up
- 6:30Speaker 4: for you? Your attorney?
- 6:31Speaker 3: Yeah, my statement?
- 6:32Speaker 4: You told them or they you educated them, or they
- 6:34Speaker 4: educated you. Obviously they're already educated because their attorney. But
- 6:37Speaker 4: it sounds like you kind of already had some idea
- 6:39Speaker 4: of what you wanted to do because you did some
- 6:41Speaker 4: reading before that.
- 6:42Speaker 3: So what was the process?
- 6:44Speaker 4: You kind of said this is what I want to do,
- 6:46Speaker 4: and then they kind of added to it or they
- 6:48Speaker 4: said this is what you should do.
- 6:50Speaker 2: I came to them with my plan and my structure first,
- 6:52Speaker 2: and I really wasn't taking a note for an answer
- 6:54Speaker 2: because I know it could be done. And there are
- 6:56Speaker 2: some people that, like there are mechanics who are broke,
- 7:01Speaker 2: like they just don't know fully how to do certain things.
- 7:04Speaker 2: So you really have to find the right person that
- 7:07Speaker 2: does these things. And I would always say, speak to
- 7:10Speaker 2: someone who has a trust, speak to someone who you
- 7:13Speaker 2: know they can refer you to someone.
- 7:14Speaker 3: But that takes time.
- 7:16Speaker 2: But they would give me little tidbits of where we
- 7:19Speaker 2: can do this, or they have a network of people
- 7:22Speaker 2: and a law firm and they reach out to them.
- 7:24Speaker 2: Like my first trust costs me about twelve thousand dollars.
- 7:27Speaker 2: My newest one costs me roughly almost twenty thousand because
- 7:31Speaker 2: I have a lot.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Of things to fund it with.
- 7:33Speaker 2: But of starting out, trust probably run you anywhere from
- 7:36Speaker 2: three to six thousand dollars.
- 7:38Speaker 3: But you have to look at the big picture.
- 7:39Speaker 2: But I started out having a plan and I really
- 7:42Speaker 2: really was adamant about getting this structure done.
- 7:45Speaker 3: That was it for me. You will too, Yeah, with
- 7:48Speaker 3: the trust, there's a thing called a poor over will.
- 7:51Speaker 2: That's attached to the trust for all the items that
- 7:53Speaker 2: you don't put into the trust automatically palls over and
- 7:56Speaker 2: fall into the will, like jewelry, like they that are
- 8:00Speaker 2: air looms, it'll automatically go in that will.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying that thinking, obviously you're educated. How often
- 8:06Speaker 1: are you meeting with your trust attorney? Because I was
- 8:08Speaker 1: having a conversation with a young lady the other day
- 8:10Speaker 1: and she's finding it hard to have her parents, you know,
- 8:13Speaker 1: even buy into the idea of a trust. So how
- 8:15Speaker 1: often did you meet with family if you did at all?
- 8:18Speaker 1: And how often did you meet with the trust attorney?
- 8:20Speaker 1: Is that like a once a year thing or was
- 8:22Speaker 1: it every six months? Because I'm sure you acquiring properties
- 8:24Speaker 1: and other assets throughout the year, Like, how often is
- 8:28Speaker 1: that happening?
- 8:29Speaker 2: In the beginning, when I started, we had to have
- 8:31Speaker 2: a conversation literally it was about almost every other week,
- 8:34Speaker 2: sometimes every week to plan us out with insurance and
- 8:37Speaker 2: all that stuff.
- 8:38Speaker 3: Very complicated.
- 8:39Speaker 2: But once it was set, the updating of the trust
- 8:42Speaker 2: is every three years, right, but if there's something of
- 8:46Speaker 2: urgency that I need to update, because here's the thing,
- 8:49Speaker 2: and I want to throw this part also, I'm gonna
- 8:50Speaker 2: drop it, y'all pick us up. When you're buying things
- 8:53Speaker 2: in you're holding company, you're holding LLC should be in
- 8:56Speaker 2: the name of your trust. So if something happens to you,
- 9:00Speaker 2: the properties automatically fall into the trust, automatically fall in there,
- 9:08Speaker 2: so you don't have to fund the trust because the
- 9:10Speaker 2: trust own the LLC. So if let me give a
- 9:15Speaker 2: quick example. You know how you put your name on
- 9:17Speaker 2: every single LLC. You open up a LLC, you put
- 9:19Speaker 2: your name on it, open up the LLC, you put
- 9:21Speaker 2: your name on it.
- 9:22Speaker 3: But if you was to have.
- 9:23Speaker 2: The property one two three Smith Street in its own LLC.
- 9:27Speaker 2: The name on that LLC would not be you, it
- 9:31Speaker 2: would be your trust. So if something ever happens, it
- 9:35Speaker 2: automatically goes to the trust because you sign the trust
- 9:39Speaker 2: over as the owner. Does that make sense? Automatically so
- 9:43Speaker 2: would trinkle effect. So with that being said, excuse me.
- 9:46Speaker 2: So with that being said, you wouldn't have to fund
- 9:48Speaker 2: one at a time. You could just have that trust
- 9:51Speaker 2: own it. All these LLCs bile straight in from your holding.
- 9:55Speaker 2: But also to let me not glaze over something you said,
- 9:59Speaker 2: it's so pot want to have the conversation with your
- 10:01Speaker 2: family and sit them down and explain. Because my thing was,
- 10:04Speaker 2: after everything's said and done, my lawyer, we would have
- 10:07Speaker 2: the conversation with each one of them. Here's who's getting this,
- 10:11Speaker 2: who's the trust, there's the trustee, this is what's gonna happen,
- 10:15Speaker 2: this is what it's supposed to be. I want you
- 10:17Speaker 2: to do this, and it's a thing I'll call a
- 10:19Speaker 2: letter of trust, handwritten. I want this copy of this
- 10:22Speaker 2: letter in my hand written form and my signature be
- 10:26Speaker 2: copied for every generation, every trustee, so they could look
- 10:29Speaker 2: and go.
- 10:30Speaker 3: He thought about me. I want them to see what
- 10:34Speaker 3: I meant and.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Why I did this, because that's powerful and they will
- 10:39Speaker 2: get it and go.
- 10:40Speaker 3: Man, my great great grandfather thought about me. So that letter.
- 10:45Speaker 3: You don't have to, but the thing is always impacted.
- 10:48Speaker 2: So you need to have that discussion with your kids,
- 10:51Speaker 2: your grandkids. There's only so far trust can go. It
- 10:54Speaker 2: only could go to the last person alive in your
- 10:57Speaker 2: generation up to a certain age. So like if I
- 11:01Speaker 2: have my grandchildren, my last one or he would have
- 11:05Speaker 2: to now take the trust format and restart it again
- 11:09Speaker 2: and follow the same thing. Trusts can't live on an infamy.
- 11:12Speaker 1: So you've created the generational wealth and the other part
- 11:15Speaker 1: was just the sustainable wealth yep, Like that's the key, right,
- 11:18Speaker 1: because it could get mixed up from generation generation. Yeah,
- 11:20Speaker 1: but what you're doing is pretty much putting up the
- 11:22Speaker 1: barriers like, no, we're going to sustain this forever forever.
- 11:26Speaker 2: The biggest, biggest mistake that a lot of people make,
- 11:28Speaker 2: unfortunately when we have real estate is thinking that our
- 11:32Speaker 2: children want to be landlords.
- 11:34Speaker 3: We can't.
- 11:35Speaker 2: We can't assume that they want to be landlords. I
- 11:37Speaker 2: had a friend of mine who I knew through someone else.
- 11:40Speaker 2: He died didn't have a trust, left the properties to
- 11:43Speaker 2: his kids in a will.
- 11:46Speaker 3: They sold them because they didn't want nothing to do
- 11:48Speaker 3: with real estate.
- 11:49Speaker 2: That's that destroyed me because I knew what his objective was.
- 11:54Speaker 2: So we need to put things in place to go, Okay,
- 11:56Speaker 2: if you don't want to be a landlord, this is
- 11:57Speaker 2: what we're gonna do. I'm gonna have a company do this,
- 12:00Speaker 2: gonna sell it, put the properties in the brokerage account
- 12:03Speaker 2: where it's gaining compound interest to do something.
- 12:06Speaker 3: So that's the key.
- 12:07Speaker 2: We need to stop, you know, really projecting our wants
- 12:11Speaker 2: and needs on children and grandkids when.
- 12:13Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, I got my own plan. That's cree y,
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