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3 Guys Before The Game - Baylor & Pitt Game Preview (Episode 592) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Hey there, thanks so much for pressing the play button.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's time for three guys before the game.
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  Speaker 1: This is a double preview. It's our Baylor preview and
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  Speaker 1: hundred and ninety two. Three Guys before the Game, and
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  Speaker 1: Meeting is come to order. See if we have a quorum.
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  Speaker 1: See one, two, three, three, we do. We're ready to vote.
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  Speaker 1: Happy kerchievill is with us, El Senatore, Brad Howe is here,
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  Speaker 1: and man, there's a lot going on. And sometimes you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you say bow, there's a lot going on. There's really
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  Speaker 1: not a ton going on, but like, think about this.
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  Speaker 1: So we're here at Thursday afternoon. So tomorrow you've got
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  Speaker 1: WVU men's basketball, a pit women's basketball against Texas A.
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  Speaker 1: And it Saturday, you've got Mountaineer football. Sunday, Mountaineer men's
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  Speaker 1: soccer team plays for the World Old Championships. Oh wait,
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  Speaker 1: I forgot something. On Friday, WV women's soccer in Lexington
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  Speaker 1: playing in the NCAA tournament against Kentucky. It is an
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  Speaker 1: absolute bonanza for a Mountaineer sportsman.
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  Speaker 2: And don't forget that all the high school teams will
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  Speaker 2: be gathering at the West Virginia Supreme Court for a.
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  Speaker 3: Little con when.
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  Speaker 2: Soon who knows, soon, who knows? Playing games that might
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  Speaker 2: not mean anything, games.
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  Speaker 3: That were mis I they'laying right.
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  Speaker 2: You know what you need these days in high school football?
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  Speaker 2: You need a good coach, good coordinator, and a good lawyer.
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  Speaker 3: You said, you're saying college sports are high school high
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  Speaker 3: school sports? Oh, college sports too.
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  Speaker 2: Ye need a good lawyer, same thing should be on
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  Speaker 2: the sideline, get a bad call, file suit.
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  Speaker 3: Well, lot going on.
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  Speaker 1: This was not our intent to get into this, however,
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  Speaker 1: Brad with the Brad was chatting about this with me
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  Speaker 1: yesterday off air, and normally, you know, those are kind
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  Speaker 1: of like lawyer conversations, privileged, you can't release them. But
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  Speaker 1: you made a good point. I'm gonna speak for you
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  Speaker 1: as if you weren't here, and basically what you said.
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  Speaker 1: What we're seeing now in high school sports, and not
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  Speaker 1: only in West Virginia but across the country is the
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  Speaker 1: trickle down effect of what colleges have started to do.
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  Speaker 1: So a decade and a half ago or so, right
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  Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, when a body that was in charge
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  Speaker 1: of these organizations, schools would make a ruling that was
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  Speaker 1: it okay. Then little by little you start you know,
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  Speaker 1: getting a little bit, get a little anxious, they might
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  Speaker 1: make an appeal. And then, as you know, the appeal
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  Speaker 1: was always like see you, that's the ruling. And then
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  Speaker 1: it went one point eight and schools and colleges, colleges
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  Speaker 1: aggressively began to sue and basically thumb their nose at
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  Speaker 1: the body of which they make the rules for. And
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  Speaker 1: this is just trickling down now to the high school.
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  Speaker 1: So now the high schools are doing it. That was
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  Speaker 1: unheard of for a high school to challenge fifteen years ago.
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  Speaker 1: That's commonplace.
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  Speaker 2: It is one thing to keep in mind and we'll
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  Speaker 2: see what happens here. Is that I know what you're
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  Speaker 2: saying to me, and I agree. I agree with both
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  Speaker 2: of you, and we're in a very litigious society. But
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  Speaker 2: also historically with the SSAC, when there's a legal complaint
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  Speaker 2: or that's filed and trying to stop or force the
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  Speaker 2: SSAC to do something ends up for the Supreme Court,
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  Speaker 2: and the Supreme Court comes back and says, this is
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  Speaker 2: the ruling body. We're not going to get into scheduling
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  Speaker 2: who plays whom. It's up to the SSAC. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying that's what they're going to rule, but that is
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  Speaker 2: historically what they've done. Otherwise, the Supreme Court would be
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  Speaker 2: hearing every complaint about every grievance in high school sports.
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  Speaker 2: So at some point you have to have a governing
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  Speaker 2: body and just say, look, they need to decide and
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  Speaker 2: that's what I think will happen here.
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  Speaker 3: But yet our college side, that's the exact opposite of
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  Speaker 3: what has happened. That has not happened. The courts of
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  Speaker 3: decided to hear and rule and put their stamp on
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  Speaker 3: the way the landscape is going. So it's been that's
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  Speaker 3: been different. So if there's a trickle down effect that
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  Speaker 3: might not stay and past precedent might not hold, might
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  Speaker 3: not to say why not?
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  Speaker 1: So like if you were doing a spread zone stats
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  Speaker 1: segment on this, like, what's the what's the odds that
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  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court just says SSAC makes the rules follow
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  Speaker 1: what they say? What do you think, senator? Can you
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  Speaker 1: put a number on it?
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm not the bookmaker on this.
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  Speaker 1: See one of those plus one fifties or plus minus
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  Speaker 1: two hundred.
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  Speaker 3: Something like that. Not well enough versed in the court system,
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  Speaker 3: hoppy on this one.
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  Speaker 2: I would say, red, you know when if if you're
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  Speaker 2: making a if you're making a prediction based on history, yes,
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  Speaker 2: you know it's true. Until it's not true, we'll.
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  Speaker 1: Call it precedent. Right in the legal world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the odds are that the court finds
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  Speaker 2: that they let the s SAC sort this out. But
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  Speaker 2: who knows. I mean that that's historically what has happened.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see, you know what.
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  Speaker 3: They say about historical trends though in the sports betting space,
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  Speaker 3: what do they say? Don't meaning.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's all we're doing on that next topic.
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  Speaker 2: Thank goodness, because it's complicated.
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  Speaker 1: Sad, that is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's sice was it and and it's just there's so
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  Speaker 2: many there's so many tentacles to it. Sure, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know how who's who's the who's probably the best
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  Speaker 2: player on the high school basketball team, in the high
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  Speaker 2: school wrestling team, right, the kid who's on the football team.
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  Speaker 2: So so now you're you're starting to, you know, potentially
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  Speaker 2: affect those sports because if you're going to delay and
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  Speaker 2: push everything back by a week or who knows how long.
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  Speaker 1: It has a huge impact.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 1: It's an impact of the senator. Yeah, I mean, here's
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  Speaker 1: this guy. He was supposed to do the TV broadcast
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  Speaker 1: first weekend of December on Metro News TV. They moved
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  Speaker 1: it at least one week. Now, my boy's out wide ranging.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, well, I think my announcing schedule is probably
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  Speaker 3: a dot on the landscape of the well, I mean well,
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  Speaker 3: you should, you can bring legal action.
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  Speaker 1: It takes, it takes, It takes you out of a
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  Speaker 1: pay check. Now, I mean there's a chance those how
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  Speaker 1: girls now don't have the same kind of Christmas because
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to do that game.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully this gets resolved quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Even when it gets resolved, though, there's gonna be a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of unhappy Hoppy people, coaches, kids, parents, the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: There is no there is no there's no answer that
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  Speaker 2: will satisfy everybody. Okay, you're gonna have aggrieved parties in this.
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  Speaker 2: You agree with that, Yes, whatever whatever you.
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  Speaker 1: Do, some of them are going to lose in court.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them are going to lose on the field.
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  Speaker 1: Just the way that's going to be.
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  Speaker 2: It's it going to be like it's gonna end up
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  Speaker 2: being like COVID. Somebody call somebody on Thursday and say
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  Speaker 2: can we come over Friday and play a ballgame with you?
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  Speaker 1: And we'll see anyway time Now, for Hoppy's obvious observations,
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  Speaker 1: these are observations that the Hoppy really works toward each
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  Speaker 1: week to give us an overview of what the world
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  Speaker 1: champion mountaineers are about to get themselves into and ladies
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  Speaker 1: and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 2: Now typed type.
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  Speaker 1: This week we're going to have hopefully I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to say what it is, but in the next two
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  Speaker 1: to three episodes, we're going to have a very special
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  Speaker 1: addition to Hoppy's obvious observation. So that's all I'll safe
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  Speaker 1: for now, go ahead, hop.
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  Speaker 2: All right, okay, I'll start with the couple of really
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  Speaker 2: obvious observations. One is that, on one hand, you could say,
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  Speaker 2: too bad this game is not on the road, because
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  Speaker 2: you played better on the road this year than at home.
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  Speaker 2: But on the other hand, Baylor's never won here, So
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  Speaker 2: there's that.
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  Speaker 1: See how he pulled a Bobby bowten on that. You
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  Speaker 1: hear that, Senator, you already did. Now we now bust
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  Speaker 1: Virginia plays better on the road, but Baylor hasn't won here,
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  Speaker 1: so i'd say played at the Go Martin flatway. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: middle of the ground.
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  Speaker 2: So there's that. Also, you're you're looking at can you
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  Speaker 2: get to seven wins some point? Right? Can you get
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  Speaker 2: to seven? I think seven takes the heat off of
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  Speaker 2: Neil Brown. If you end up six and six and
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be all your mediocre, there's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a lot of grumbling. So getting to seven or more
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  Speaker 2: certainly starts with this game against Baylor. Here's some Here
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  Speaker 2: are some obvious statistics, and I look forward to the
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  Speaker 2: Senator just dismantling these because minor, just obvious. Baylor Nation
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  Speaker 2: is talking about getting this team bread where they expect
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  Speaker 2: to be. Had a bad start. Now they've won three
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  Speaker 2: in a row, so now they thinking, Okay, are they
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  Speaker 2: getting on track here? So that's that's the first thing.
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  Speaker 2: Baylor is averaging thirty four points a game this season,
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  Speaker 2: but during the three game stretch where they won three
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  Speaker 2: in a row, they're averaging forty five points a game ouch,
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  Speaker 2: including scoring fifty nine against Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 1: Sana, can we get some regression to the mean.
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  Speaker 2: This week, Dave Iranda benched Toledo, transferred to Kwan Finn
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  Speaker 2: and went with Heisman Trophy candidate Sayer Robertson.
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I hadn't seen that. Well.
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  Speaker 2: The Mississippi State transfer has been hot. He is playing well,
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  Speaker 2: and they've been getting yards after catch, their top six
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  Speaker 2: receivers averaging fourteen yards per catch fourteen yards per catch.
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  Speaker 2: Aranda has said they're the healthiest they've been all year.
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  Speaker 2: I think they might get a couple guys back on defense,
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  Speaker 2: and even though Randa is known as a defensive coach,
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  Speaker 2: Baylor has averaged giving up thirty five points a game.
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  Speaker 2: Back to Robertson, there's three games stretch where he's been
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  Speaker 2: red hot, and again you lo for regression to the mean,
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  Speaker 2: completing sixty percent of his passes, averaging two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: thirty nine yards a game, eight touchdowns, just one interception,
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  Speaker 2: and they have a run game Bryce in Washington. If
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  Speaker 2: you're averaging one hundred and thirty yards a game in
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  Speaker 2: the last three games, and because of his success, Dom
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  Speaker 2: Richardson has left the team. That was one of their
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  Speaker 2: big stories this week. But Don Richardson, Brad wasn't playing
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  Speaker 2: because Byron Washington was getting it done. Baylor is even
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  Speaker 2: on turnover margin. West Virginia's is minus four. Baylor's favored
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  Speaker 2: by two and a half. So guess what, Brad, It's
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  Speaker 2: another Pickham game at Mylen Pushcar Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Hoppy's obvious observations are brought to us by the three
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  Speaker 1: guys mirror company. Just look at the mirror and you
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  Speaker 1: know what you're going to get. The obvious observations. Senator
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  Speaker 1: can you give us some high altitude general themes before
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  Speaker 1: you jump into the.
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  Speaker 3: Ever I can this is you mentioned hop the hotness
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  Speaker 3: of Baylor. You know, it's interesting in that three game
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  Speaker 3: losing streak if you look a little closer, they were close,
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  Speaker 3: lost on a hail Mary, and lost on a missed
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven yard field goal. They probably should have won
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  Speaker 3: five out of six, and so I think a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people were hoping that Dave Randa slide would continue
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  Speaker 3: by the time West Virginia got this Baylor, and that's
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  Speaker 3: certainly not the case. This team is playing well, but
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  Speaker 3: so is West Virginia. These teams are combined five and
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  Speaker 3: oh in their last five games. Here's another stat on that.
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  Speaker 3: Hope you ready for this, Yeah, only six of the
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  Speaker 3: sixteen Big twelve teams have at least a two game
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  Speaker 3: winning streak right now, Only six of sixteen. These are
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  Speaker 3: two of them. Yeah, right, there's one three Westerninge one
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  Speaker 3: two last two on the road. West Virginia now returns home.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm anxious to watch this. And there's a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of questions to go into. But I think there's two
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  Speaker 3: primary questions, and some of this we'll answer when we
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  Speaker 3: get into the spreads on stats segment. But if Garrett
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  Speaker 3: Green is back and healthy and returns to start, how
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  Speaker 3: does he look? How is he able to play? Is
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  Speaker 3: his Can he throw it? Can he run it? Can
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  Speaker 3: Garrett Green be Garrett Green in this game without any turnovers?
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  Speaker 3: Because turnovers are going to be the story in this
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  Speaker 3: game one way or the other. Number one, and then
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  Speaker 3: number two, maybe even a more obvious question is can
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  Speaker 3: this defense get anywhere in the same ballpark of what
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  Speaker 3: it was last weekend?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, score twenty one points.
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  Speaker 3: No, they're not going to score, They're not going to
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  Speaker 3: score two touchdowns, but they've played really well outside of
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  Speaker 3: those scoring drives as well, or they're scoring turnover plays.
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  Speaker 3: Can that defense, which now will not have the element
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  Speaker 3: of surprise that it did last week, still be able
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  Speaker 3: to do some things against a Baylor team that, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, guys, will be the third consecutive team westfrid
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  Speaker 3: Ginia will face coming off an open week. Now. Last
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  Speaker 3: week against Cincinnati it was a wash because West Virginia
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  Speaker 3: was coming off it's as well, but situational advantage here
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  Speaker 3: for Baylor getting a West Virginia team that's been on
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  Speaker 3: the road the last two weeks. They've been sitting for
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  Speaker 3: a week watching the new defensive scheme that Jeff Coon's
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  Speaker 3: put in. So big challenge for West Virginia coming up
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday. I think that's my obvious observation right there.
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  Speaker 1: Got to heat him up. He'll get the ball out
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  Speaker 1: of his hands quickly. You've got to get you got
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  Speaker 1: to heat him up.
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  Speaker 2: And West Virginia showed and the last pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, they showed last week. They're going to pressure. So
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  Speaker 1: the only way you can heat somebody is up heat
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  Speaker 1: someone up is get him into medium to long range
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  Speaker 1: yardage situations, which means you have to do what slow
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  Speaker 1: down their run? Right, So that's key number one. If
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  Speaker 1: you can slow down the run, then go from there.
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  Speaker 1: But you're right, they have a handful. They don't have
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  Speaker 1: one or two guys that can make plays after they
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  Speaker 1: catch the ball. They've got a bunch of guys that
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  Speaker 1: can make plays in space, and so that is a concern.
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  Speaker 1: Stop the run number one. And then when the situation
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  Speaker 1: allows itself, you're not necessarily going to sack him, but
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  Speaker 1: you've got to at least make him throw under duress,
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  Speaker 1: right d U R E S S. Yeah, Yeah, not
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  Speaker 1: d r E R S S.
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  Speaker 3: But that but that's a group effort too, though, because
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  Speaker 3: if you can't get home and he gets it off,
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  Speaker 3: then your second and third level or third level has
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  Speaker 3: to be close to those guys right to bring them down,
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  Speaker 3: which West Virginia has been pretty good tackling team this year.
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  Speaker 3: But that's a that's the second piece of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, proximity is nice in past defense.
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  Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? But shore we start
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  Speaker 3: Coin flip, game, coin flip. This is because here's the thing, guys,
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  Speaker 3: and we say this a lot. The numbers mature at
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  Speaker 3: this point, so you feel like you should have some
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  Speaker 3: more certainty in the numbers. But do you feel like
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: you have certainty about this West Virginia team? No, there's
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: two major questions I just asked, and no number is
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: going to give you the answer on that, right, health
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: of the quarterback and his performance, whether that's Garrett or Nico,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: number one and number two. This defense, it's a different
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: defensive setup than what it was previously. So do all
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: the numbers that and some I'm gonna give you again,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: do those numbers matter because this is a new group.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: But this new group also has some parameters in place
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: around at this game that it didn't have last week.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: So here we are in game. What is this? Ten? Nine?
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: No?
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Five? Ten? And you're still asking some major questions about
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: two major positions. And so if you were to tell
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: me Garrett's going to play and start and he's going
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: to be really good and there's not going to be
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: any turnovers and he's going to scramble for fifty plus yards,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: I'd say just on that alone, feel pretty good about
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: West Virginia. If turnovers come into play and throws are
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: off and Garrett doesn't look sharp because he's trying to
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: knock off rust it's been almost a month, then I've
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: got some concerns. Defensively, If you tell me you can
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: be in close proximity to what you did last week
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: even without the defensive scores, feel pretty good again. But
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: those are all unknowns at this point. So let's try
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: and put some certainty to something that is very uncertain
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: in this game and talk about some keys or some
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: questions that fall into keys for this game. First and foremost,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: let's take offense. Let's take that offensive discussion we just
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: had and ask this question, hup, can West Virginia run
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: it against Baylor? And if they can't run it, can
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: they throw it? And here's why I'm asking both of
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: those questions. Baylor's defense is coming off a game in
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: which have just posted a ninety one point point six
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: PFF grade versus TCU. Frogs ran at thirty two times
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  Speaker 3: for just a buck five three point three yards per
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: carry that ninety one six. I just did a quick
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: glance at their season chart, and I think PFF does
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: twelve categories. Take out their game against Charlton State, So
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: those eleven other game or those nine other games they've played,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I think I only saw three ninety grades in any category,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: So that tells you how hard it is to getting
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: ninety grade, especially in conference play. The Bears did it
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: on the ground. On the season. Baylor's defense is twenty
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: second nationally in EPA per rush expected points added per rush.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Those remember, are successful, very successful plays for the offense,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: and Baylor hasn't allowed very many of them on the
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: ground over the last three weeks all Baylor wins, the
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Bears have the lowest boom percentage in the Big Twelve.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: That's from our friends at SIS Sports Info Solutions. Of course,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: the boom percentage stands for means the percent of rushes
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: that resulted in an EPA of at least one very
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: successful play. So they have not allowed many of those,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: is what that stat tells you. Over the last three weeks.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: The Bears defense has given up the fewest rushing yards
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: in that span, so just all those rush defense numbers
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: have been very good during this winning streak for Baylor.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: The passing defense, though, has been a different story. The
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Bears are one twenty third in EPA per pass and
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: that's out of one hundred and thirty four teams, So
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: that's down near the bottom. Baylor's given up the third
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: most passing yards in the Big Twelve over the last
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  Speaker 3: three weeks. So can you run it against a defense
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  Speaker 3: that's been very good? If you can't, can you throw
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: it against a pass defense that probably hasn't been very good?
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Can I ask another question before I answer that question?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Is Hudson Clement available? And if Hudson Clement's available, is
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Hudson Clement one hundred percent? It's a hamstring injury, you're
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: in a receiver that's explosive playing in cold weather. Can
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Huddy be one hundred percent? Because I think you're going
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: to need Hudson to be back in this game and
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: have your full complement of receivers. Here's a number that
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: may surprise you. West Virginia's offense has been better in
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: the pass game than the run game. When it comes
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: to expected points added per play. West Virginia forty first
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: nationally in EPA per pass, just fifty sixth in EPA
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: per rush. So does that fit into what West Virginia wants?
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: To do to throw it. You just saw a passing
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: offense last week that didn't look very good, but you
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: saw a running offense that didn't look very good. In fact,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: in two of the last three games, West Virginia's recorded
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: the lowest pass grades of the season, and during that
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: same time, West Virginia's offense has recorded the three lowest
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: run grades of the season. Now, does that give you
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: optimism or pessimism? The optimistic point would tell you yeah,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: And you haven't been playing very well on offense, and
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: you just won your last two games on the road.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: So where does that stand? And I realize I'm giving
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: you more questions here than I'm giving answers, but I
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: think that's where we are with this particular group. How
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: about Robinson? Can he step forth again? How about his
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: performance last week was pretty good, right hanging on to
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: that catch in the end zone. He was your leading
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: receiver with sixty yards, caught the only touchdown pass of
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: the day. And he's starting to have a little bit
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: of a George Campbell type season. George Campbell, all he
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: did was touchdown pass? Did Robinson has moved into thirty
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: percent of his catches or touchdown passes three touchdowns, ten catches.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Can he get some more use? He had your third
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: best offensive grade last week. Here's another number for Robinson.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: He's now second in the Big twelve in EPA per
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: target among receivers with ten or more catches.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Do you say second.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Second in the entire Big twelve?
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Should feed number two the rock?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Then?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: So? Can he have a game for you that would
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: help out a lot as well? All right, here's another key.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: We just mentioned this. How close to last week's defensive
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: performance can you get? And I mentioned hop I threw
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: in there that element of surprise. I do think that
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: helped West Virginia last week. They did different things than
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: they had done previous to that, and it clearly was
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: a major issue for what was a good Cincinnati offense. Listen,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Western brought pressure. You guys mentioned that their alignments were
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: different at times, they disguise coverage better than they have
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: all year. So that was a Cincinnati got a totally
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: different defense than West Virginia had played previously. And I
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: don't just mean because of the results. That's what led
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: to Sorsby struggling so much. That wasn't just Sorsby had
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: a bad game. He was forced into a bad game
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: by what West Virginia was doing on a bunch of
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: different plays. But Baylor's going to be prepared, hoppy for
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: some of those chess moves. Right. We've seen Jake Spavatol
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: here for years. He knows what he's doing offensively and
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: has an extra week to prepare to get ready for
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: some of those. So here's another question we'll ask in
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: this part of it. Does Jeff Coons have another chess
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: move to counter what Spavatol is going to do to
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: counter Coons's first chess move of the week. What's this
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: defense look like this week? Here's a stat This is
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: just one number on the defense on how far it
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: has come in just a couple of weeks. Against Kansas State,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: the Wildcats put up an EPA per dropback, so an
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: expected points added per dropback that was in the ninety
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: fifth percentile. That's really good. Versus Cincinnati, the Bearcats had
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: an EPA per dropback that was in the forty third percentile,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: and quite frankly, that might be high because I think
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: you should note some of that passing success came late
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: when West Virginia was saying, fine, you want to throw
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: it underneath you can throw it underneath all you want.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: We're just not going to give up a big play
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: because you don't have time to march down the field bonus,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: which ultimately worked. So it was a forty third percentile performance.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: It might have been lower than that. Even that's a
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: heck of a couple week turnaround for this West Virginia defense.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: So again, how closely can they mirror that coming in
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: back at home but against what's a very good Baylor offense. Okay,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I got one more for you, another key hop I
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: rode this last week. The field position angle. We talked
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: about this on Sunday Show after the Cincinnati game. Bearcats
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: came into that game rank number one in opponent field position,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: number one nationally, and thanks to that great defensive performance
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: and really strong special teams play, West Virginia walks out
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: of Knippert with a plus twenty yard field position advantage.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: We've said this many times on the show. You get
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: to plus ten, it's almost assuredly a win. Westernia was
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: double that at plus twenty. Just remarkable. Well, here comes
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Baylor thirteenth nationally in net field position. I bring this
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: up because this was a real problem last year for
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: West Virginia against Baylor. Remember they took two kickoffs back
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: to the house. Almost cost yes, almost cost West Virginia
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: the game. The Bears had a plus eight field position
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: advantage but couldn't get the win thanks to the legendary
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: play by Zach Fraser and an incredible wheel route call
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: and execution to Jaheim to end that game. But here's
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: the difference from that game last year to this year.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: And Neil talked about it all off season. In this
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: season so far that kick coverage was going to be
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: a priority. It was a problem last year, not only
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: in Baylor, but against Houston if you remember as well.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Problem this year, however, the West Virginia kick coverage unit
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: sits number three nationally in the world in opponent starting
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: field position. That's per BBCF toys dot Com. BCF toys
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: dot Com. They're not different group. That's pretty darn good, guys. Yeah,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: that's a heck of a one year turnaround. So can
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: you keep that in check? Can West Virginia perform at
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: that level, not let Baylor get hot on some special teams,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: and can West Virginia replicate a performance from Pacman Fox
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: in particular from last week and win in that field
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: position battle. So that's a little if you want a
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: game within the game, not only just turnovers, but watch
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: field position coming up Saturday.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: And I know what you're saying is that you just
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: you don't know what you're gonna get offensively. Maybe you
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: have a little more confidence defensively after last week. Is
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: you need you need other things. You need turnovers, you need,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: you need outstanding special teams play. That's why you won
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the game last week, obviously because of what the defense did,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: because special teams did, so you need a couple of
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: their things in order to have a victory.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: It's quite a fascinating game, I think for a couple
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: of reasons, one being that both of these teams have
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: had some real low points in their season. And as
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Brad said, scary thing about Baylor is I mean the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: loss to Colorado, the loss to BYU probably shouldn't have
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: been losses. The fact they went to Lubbock and rang
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: up over half a HUNDI on those guys on the road.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: They're scary. That's scary. That's one thing. So mentally they
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: feel really good about themselves. But you could make that
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: very same point for West Virginia. Hey, you know, we
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: suffered our lumps against Iowa State, but we're right there
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: at halftime of that game Kansas State, same thing. It's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: anybody's game at halftime, and we blew it. Well. Now
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: you come back home, man, and these are the two
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: defining games of your season. If I were to say
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to you before the season began, Okay, guys, it's November,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: and these are the two games to define our season.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: We have our home field. Here comes Baylor and here
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: comes UCF. Ultimately, this is how you'll be determined defining
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: your season. This is going to become the characterization of
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: whether your s season was a success or a failure.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: So these are those games that you have to find
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a way to win, plain and simple. Don't care what
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: it takes. You find a way to win this football game.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: And you can make a very strong case that Baylor,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: statistically I think could come in here and beat you.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: So you have got to break the numbers like you
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: did last week.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: It's really similar though. You start to go down season
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: long on both of these teams, and most categories are
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: fairly close. I mean, there's a reason the line is
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: what it is. Western open to a small favorite. It's
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: flipped to Baylor's a small favorite. This truly is a
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: coin flip game. You've got it at home, which you like,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: here's one other thing to watch. And it goes back
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: to that first point about can you run it or not?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: And I don't know how many times we've said this,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: I'll continue to say it. Some players are going to
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: have to make plays. Last week they did, they were
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball, but you had
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: guys step up and make plays, make winning plays, not
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: just good plays, winning plays. Does that happen this week?
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: And who does it?
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: One?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: You're gonna need it defensively. But I keep going back
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: to this quarterback position. Let's say it's Garrett Green. Let's
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: say Garrett gets the start. I'm going on an assumption
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: there based on he was medically cleared last week to play.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I'll be it in an emergency role. If he's performed
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: this week, you're gonna go to Garrett Green. I've said this,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: I've said this before. He is the leading rusher on
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: this team, both yards but also in an EPA expected
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: points added per rush. His ability to scramble could be
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: a difference maker. So can Garrett be back to Garrett
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: can he knock some of that rust off? Does that
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: four weeks off or three weeks off hop turn into
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: rest and health and a really performance from Garrett that
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: you would expect, or does it turn into something that
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: it is rusty and he's not ready to go. I
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: think this is a massive question. But here's the part
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: to watch. We mentioned how hard it is to run
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: on Bay, but if you do, you probably win the game.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: In their four losses, listen to these rushing.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Yard just here we go. This is here's some magic
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Utah went for a buck eighty five, Iowa State went
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: for two sixty five, BYU went for one fifty found
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: a way to win. Colorado went for one forty three,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: which for them is about one thousand and forty three
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: because they don't want to run it right, They just
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: want to chuck it and throw it with sde or
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Sanders and those receivers, and I get it. But they
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: ran it for one forty three four yard four point
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: two yards of carry for Colorado, four for BYU, six
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: yards of carry for Iowa State and Utah's success on
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the ground. But here's the little niche part. This is
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: where you watch it. If Green's availableps and this is
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: a difference maker potentially niche in all of these games.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Listen to these numbers. Cam Rising for Utah scrambled just
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: one time the Kay that's the game he got injured.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Wh I played thirty places, ran it one time, went
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: for twenty five yards. Rocko averaged nine yards per scramble
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: in that game. Jake Retzlaw for BYU was BYU's leading
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: rusher with fifty one yards. Thirty of those came on
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: scrambles ten yards. Her Car Colorado s Door Sanders sixty
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: five yards in scramble yards was their leading rusher. You
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: put Garrett Green back there as a scrambler, that's a
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: different element. So as good as this Baylor run defense
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: has been, if you get a healthy Garrett Green, his
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: ability to talk and take might be a difference in
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: this game. Could because if you can run it, hop
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: you feel really good about winning this.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, but that's a big if because you don't know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, Garrett Green, if he's back, but is he
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: disinclined to run because he just got really really shaken up.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Run?
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think Derrett Garrett Green's ever disinclined to run. Okay,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I'll just go on record as saying that right, maybe
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: a dead wrong that that guy doesn't seem like he's
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: gonna say, well, I got danged, I'm not running.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: What was what was one of the reasons what was
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: the biggest reason why West Virginia struggled to run last week?
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: But they couldn't throw it?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah? So and teams, I mean, you're at a point
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: in the season where I don't think any defense of
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: an opponent is concerned that you're gonna throw a downfield
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: on them all day long. Correct, So they're going to say, look,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: let's stop the run, let's sell out to stop the run.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: And if you beat us, Okay, I agree, But when
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: do you scramble? You don't scramble. That's a scramble is
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: not a designed run. A scramble is on a pass.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: That's where those yards are coming. So they can say
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: all they want, we're going to load.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Up on the run. You drop back to pass, they're
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: going to come after you. That's when those gaps open.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: That's my point. That's where you can take advantage of them.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: If it's Garrett Green versus Niko.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: In unless they have a really good spy.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: They did in those four games they did not that
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: is that's now a trend. There have been multiple quarterbacks
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: that have had running success scrambling, and none of them
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: have the scrambling ability of a Garrett Green. I'd watch
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: that number closely.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: If it's Garrett, will it be Garrett? I think the
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: lean is to Garrett. Okay, If it's Garrett, I just
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: hope that he feels good and he lets her rip.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Garrett's got to be Garrett. Yeah, do all those things
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: and standing in the pocket is not Living in the
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: pocket is not his best suit. It's his ability to
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: threaten with the run, then throw it occasionally, but also
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: take off, get your ass down, slide, don't take any
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: more hits, and play the next play.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: He's a difference maker at quarterback with that ability to
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: get outside. If he's playing that, that is a That's
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: a massive bonus for West Virginia.
• 34:21
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• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I got a couple of refrigerations to buy one.
• 35:45
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• 35:48
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• 35:49
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• 35:52
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  Speaker 2: Can I give you my who? My?
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  Speaker 2: Well, just it's an obvious outset.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: How about him? We're reaching out very prepared today. I
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: like it.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Well, great test early, going to play a difficult team
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: on the road rivalry game, and I was thinking that,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you know, when Darren Devrees got here, I'm sure Bay
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: when he got here, was here probably twenty minutes, probably
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: just parked his car, and somebody said, you know, you
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: gotta play pet. I gotta go to the Pitt. I
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: gotta play the Pit game. And he's he's not new
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: to rivalries like the Drake Northern Illinois rivalry, Northern Iowa,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Northern Iowa, same thing, Northern Illinois Northern Iowa rivalry Northern
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: but they haven't done the Pitt rivalry. So got to
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: go up there, got to play on the road. None
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: of these players know about the Pitt West Virginia rivalry.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: So it'll be the first thing to watch for is
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: how the team responds in that environment on the road
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: against a difficult opponent in a rivalry game. Right, that's
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: the first thing to watch for, correct, That's all I got.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: He said, first thing to watch. Whether that should mean
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: there's a second thing?
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you go, you take number.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Two, you say, I'll say this with no scientific backing
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: on this, I'll be really surprised if the Mountaineers appear
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: to be impacted by the intensity of the rivalry or
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: of the game. Really, I really do. And here's why.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: And nowadays basketball, these guys have been like so tested
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: through time. Right, you talk about you know, Tucker Deries
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: played over one hundred games, Javon Small's played over one
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: hundred games, Tobyoconnie's played over one hundred games. Pitt's got
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: a dude, He's played two hundred and ninety nine games. Seriously,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I forgot this dude from Temple. They got you, remember,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: did you? So I'm doing my charts getting ready for
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: this game, and I got this database and it saves
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: like my bio notes, and I'm going through Pitt and
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I click on this kid on Pitt's roster and like
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: all of his bio notes are there, and I said,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: wait a second, how could the bio notes be there
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: like this new rustler I'm looking at it. Well, we
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: played against him last year. He was on Houston. My
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: man played four at Temple, he played four at Temple,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: he played one at Houston, and now he's at Pitt
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: closing dune.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Damn dunt, Yeah, damn dunt.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: He's good and he's one hundred and one hundred and
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: twelve hundred and thirteenth game something like that. So my
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: point is, unlike in the past when you went up
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: there with a bunch of like, you know, young kids
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: that would get overwhelmed by these guys are like, all right, fine, okay,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: so they'll play now. If that's going to be good
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: enough remains to be seen. But I don't think they
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: sweat all right, Okay, I defer to you on the
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Senator agreed, disagree, and I agree.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I agree with that cause I think this team has
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: shown it. It's got a little it's got a little
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: stuff to it, gell little stuff. So I think it
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: will it will elevate up from that. Now that that
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean you're gonna make shots, that doesn't mean you're
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: gonna not turn out. There's some things that go with that.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: But I think when they walk in and they get
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: there and that student section starts yip yapp, and I
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: think you're gonna get some guys to go, okay, all right,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: let's go. Now, we get it, We got it. Yeah,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: we understand what this is.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: It is hype. I agree with you though it is.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: It is a step up, and it's a significant step
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: in competition and on the road. So that's absolutely something
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: that's new. Because this is this going on the road
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: for this West Virginia team, that's something new. They haven't
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: done that yet. So I think that's an appropriate first
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: question for this game is how will that look for
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: WV on the road? And listen, this is a good
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: pit team, guys. They they had struggled for a number
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: of years but turned it around last year. We saw
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: them come into the coliseum and start bombing threes and
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: we're very good. And that's a that's a pit team
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: that was disappointed that it did not make the NCAA
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: tournament last year. They come into this one three and oho. Overall,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: they're twenty seventh in the Kenpalm Dot Com rankings, So
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: they're high I ranked opponents so far this season one
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: hundred and twenty first ranked Murray State Pacers. Panthers have
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: also beaten number two thirty Radford and our guy Deris Nichols.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: They didn't beat him, they damn near killed.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Him, and number two hundred and twenty nine Gardner Webb
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: just earlier this week. West Virginia comes in ranked currently
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: number seventy five in the Ken Palm rankings. They have
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: good size.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: What is was Virginia's opponent list? Look what do you mass? Come?
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: What's the U mass at right now?
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: You mass was one o nine when West Virginia played them. Okay,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that though real quick. Robert Morris three
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: hundred as we sit today, you mass dropped to one
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: nineteen after West Virginia beat it.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, so there you go.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: The size for pid is something to watch. So they're
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: gonna play three guys that are six ten or taller. Ouch,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: So watch this size and befitting of a team with
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: great size. What are they trying and do they try
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: to lock every single shot that goes up? They are
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: going to come after you defensively and hop What's interesting
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: their best shot blocker isn't one of those big it's
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: six six Zach Austin, who ranks twenty third nationally in
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: block percentage. He's the twenty third ranked player out of
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: twenty three hundred and sixty players. Zach Austin, So you've
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: got to This will be a good pump fake game.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: You get in the length fake big land on two games. Yeah,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Liz is a big getting the paint land on tool.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Get those big guys up lean and get a foul, hop,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: So keep an eye on that. The shot blockers will
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: be out in force for Pitt. Their guards are very
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: very good. Jalen Low and ish Legott are aggressive. They're
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: gonna push it in transition. They're gonna put their head
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: down and try and get to the basket. Even if
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: you're back in transition, they're gonna give you there. They're
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: a hold. Is that right, you're back on transition here,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I go right to the basket. So guard on guard
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: matchups here are going to be good. Their their strength
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: of their team is the guards. The strength of the
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: West Virginia team is the guards. Watch Sincere Harris getting low,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: that's the first matchup to watch, and also hop I'm
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: gonna say it every game, but watch it in this one.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Non conference games on the road, pay attention to the
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: officiating style.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Now, why do you have to start that all ready?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, why do you have to put that one
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: out there?
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Because because it's part of the game.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Part of the game. We're going to evaluate shot blockers,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: and we're going to evaluate guards, and we're going to
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: evaluate your ability to make threes. You know what else
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: we're going to evaluate hot what the officiating style. Do
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: they let it go? Do they call it tight? I've
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: said before, and maybe I revise my statement. If you
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: get against a Houston or something like that that really
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: likes to get up and push, I think Westerndin he
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: wants to let it go. I think your your preference is,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: don't pay attention to what Sincere Harris is doing to
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Low coming off a screen. Don't blow a whistle. Just
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: let him play ball and see how that works. Because
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: what you do not want is to get up in
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: that building and have a couple quick fouls on Tucker,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: a couple quick fouls on Small, couple quick fouls on Harris.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: That's going to change the game significantly completely. So if
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: those officials go in want to call every tiki tak
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: nickknack fowl, then then you're going to be in a
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: potential problem. Go in there and just let the guys play.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I hope they do.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Here's my early call.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I saw the list of the three. Got a feeling.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I hope these guys. My lean on these three guys
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: is they're more apt to let it go than they
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: are to make it a whistle fest. I just fingers
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: are crossed that they do an important key to the game.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: One of those officials may have already worked a Mountaineer
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: game this year. So, okay, here's some number rearity.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Those were kind of just the overviews and things. Here's
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: some numbers. Teams have shot it well from pit hop
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: from the right wing. Three right wing three teams are
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: making fifty eight percent of their shots from that spot.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: How would you like to guess what West Virginia's best
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: spot on the floor is from a field goal percentage standpoint,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: So far, same place, right wing threes hitting at a
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: forty four percent clip. That's also been West Virginia's most
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: frequent shot region. Fifteen percent of his total shots have
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: come from that right wing. Tucker Javon and Jonathan Powell
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: have been money from this spot seven of eleven from
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: three to sixty four percent from that right wing watch
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: that right wing see if that trend holds again, small
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: sample size for both teams, but that's been a spot
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: that's been effective for West Virginia, and that's been a
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: spot that Pitt has left itself vulnerable in.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: You know, when you say right wing, he gets all excited.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: He does.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: He just he thinks he's back doing his other show
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: that he does. He just kind of and it warms
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: the cockles of his heart.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Me saying right wing probably want to listen as many
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: emails and text message as you normally get when you
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: say it.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I get a lot when I say that.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: All right, one last thing because I know this is
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: long with a lot of numbers.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: We talked about on it.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: One of the foundational pieces for Darren Devrees is that
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: don't turn it over offensively, do not turn it over right.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: It makes him lose his mind when you turn it over.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Give away possessions and Tony, what's the worst kind of turnover? Turnovers?
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: All turnovers aren't created equal. What's the worst kind the
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: ones that are live live ball turnovers. How about this
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: versus U Mass. Twenty percent of West Virginia's possessions resulted
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: in a live ball turnover, so that will not make
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: coach DeVries very happy. Luckily, for West Virginia, U Mass
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: only averaged one point point per possession on those plays.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: That was down in the fortieth percentile, so West Virginia
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: had a little bit of a break there. There were
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: a bunch of turnovers that came in live games live
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: ball turnovers that didn't affect West Virginia. Go to the
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: other side of that, though, West Virginia got a live
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: ball turnover on seventeen percent of U Mass's possessions and
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: scored at nearly one point six points per possession, up
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: in the eighty second persentile. So if you want to
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: look at a specific that, I'm really giving you a
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: niche on niche category there. But West Virginia won that
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: they were more efficient with its live ball turnovers than
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: U Mass was and that ended up being a big
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: difference points off turnovers. That's going to be a big
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: part of the game coming up Friday. Both teams are
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: in the top fifteen percent nationally in points off turnovers,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: so watch that category as well.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Last week we were talking with Corey Barnett, Mountain Here
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: assistant coach this week, and their game plan last week.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: They noticed that U Mass had the propensity to really
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: buy shot fakes. They would up into the air. So
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: their whole game plan was to get them up and
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: then to take it to the rim. And they and
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: they won that game in large part because of their
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: free throw shooting. And they had a lot more free throws,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: and they made a lot more free throws. And so
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I'll be interested. They're not, you know, haven't asked them yet,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: but like, Okay, where's Pitt. What does Pitt do? That's
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: a weakness that you're going to try to exploit and
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: you'll find out maybe they do. Maybe since they do
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: block live shots, maybe they do buy a lot of fakes,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: and then you go up and get them. But you're right, Brad,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: this Mountaineer team, not only in this game, but for
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season, they do not have the
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: depth to afford themselves getting into foul trouble. And if
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: you've got some of your keys, i e. A. Sincere
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Harris or whomever, or to Obi o'connie or Tucker Devrees,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: it is a severe depreciation of your efficiency when those
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: guys sit.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: And that that's just going to happen. It's this question
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: how many times I'm not saying in this game, but
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: this season goes on the games, it just happens like, oh,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: before you know it, you're three minutes in, Like what
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: the heck happened under the guy in the whole game.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: That's why I say, and I'll probably do it every
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: every show on here, because I think it's much like
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: turnovers in football. Right, you can, I can put officiating
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: style as one of the top three keys in every
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: single game that this particular team plays. And guys, we
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: did that. We've we've done that a lot over time
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: and over history here. When John Beeline's teams would play,
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: we wanted somebody or you the West Virginia fan, and
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: you wanted somebody that would call everything because you wanted
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: freedom of movement on offenses. You go through the lane
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: in some of those big East games and pitted through
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: a forearm shiver on you in the middle lane with
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: no call. You you were behind the eight ball they're
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: trying to win. Then it switched over to Bob Huggins style,
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: where you were saying similar to what I'm saying now
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: in the press Virginia days, like just swallow your whistle,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: don't worry about what's going on, just let him play,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: don't look at that. Right, So that the officiating style matters,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: It just simply does. And we can talk all day
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: about whether there's a good balls back. It just style
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: of how they decide to call the game that particular
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: night matters and it's going to matter to this West Virginia.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Team, Tony. What's what's the bigger difference in officiating? Is
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: is it crew to crew or conference to conference.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Well, the issue the issue that you have. Again, they
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: don't go in there to screw you. But for example,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: when the game was adjudicated here last season, it's big
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: twelve officials working the game. When you go up there,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: it's a ACC officials work in the game. Now there
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: is some back and forth between officials and so you
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: could have guys that work both. So the issue is
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: not that they go into hey, this is an ACC team,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: but just the sub the intangible is that you probably
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: don't get the benefit of the doubt. That just the
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: way it works when you're on the road for various reasons. Right,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: the atmosphere of the crowd that you just whether the
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: officials know it or not, sometimes you just lean into
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: and that happens when I mean West Virginia again, West Virginia.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: This is I saw this last week. By the way,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I'm still using your Ken Palm account. Haven't changed your
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: username or your password. But anyway, West Virginia the Coliseum
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: is ranked number one in the nation in most difficult
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: place to play. I think about that. Coming off a
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: nine win season, it's still number one. So my point is,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: when you're on your home court, there's just inherent advantage.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: More A lot of that stat is derived from and
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: how many times on this show we talked about this
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: for West Ramis basketball team, and it goes back to
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: not just last year, but the last few years under
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Bob Huggins. West Virginia's free throw attempt rate was its
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: biggest determining factor in getting a win. It got to
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: the foul line a lot in those last few years,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: and a lot of times at home. So that's part
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: of where that they're deriving that home court advantage number
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: from is how many times you get the free throw
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: line versus your opponent. I think though, how real quick
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: to answer the second part of your question, it does
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: matter within leagues though, there's no question the Big twelve
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: is a much more physical league than the ACC is
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: or the Pac twelve. And you're going to get right.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: You got ACC officials tomorrow night. That's why style matters.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: If they're if they're used to more freedom of movement
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: within the league, that could they could look at a
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: style West Virginia's playing and say, hold on here, those
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: look like fouls where you get into a Big twelve game,
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: and those crews may say, no, that's how this league plays.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: So that's why it style does.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Matter, Tony. Are you saying you get a better whistle
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: at the Coliseum than Kansas gets at home?
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Well, Ken Palm says that, but do you say that?
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Mm?
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: No, I think Kansas gets a better whistle at home.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I mean historically, it's just again and again, I don't
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: necessarily think officials go in there and say, hey, whistle.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: It's the vibe in the building. Until you've been inside
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: that building, you you really can't get a fair assessment
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: of what it is. Brad, you've been there. You set
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: up near the top, right, I mean, it is just
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: absolute electricity from about thirty minutes before the ball goes
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: in the air. It's just a certain vibe and I
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: think it carries over. It just's over to everyone on
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: the floor.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I remember back in the day growing up watching acc basketball,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: watching left to Gerzelle and Maryland be at North Carolina.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, didn't get a few calls.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: Left hander certainly thought he did.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you had you made one misstatement there. Okay, what
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I said a couple You might want to go back
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: and look. You said that the reason West Virginia has
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: deemed the number one most difficult place to play is
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: because of free throw attempts.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Right free throw attempt rate, free throw atten.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Now you must have misspoke because West Virginia always get
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: screwed by the officials. That the officials always have it
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: in for West Virginia. Now you're saying that West Virginia. Actually,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: now you misspoke. Where you want to correct it.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Now or no? That's true? Seventieth sixty ninth last year
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: in the country. So there's three hundred and what fifty sixteen?
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Westralia was in the top seventy last year in a
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: season in which it only won nine games. Go back
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: to the year before twenty second.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, they were twenty second nationally and actually in
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: West Virginia aways get screwed.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Oh you asked me about the year before you just
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: said there, Yeah, that was forty third.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Oh my in free throw attempt How many schools three.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty seven that camp be? Did you ask
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: about the twenty twenty one season, two asked about that? Yeah,
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: thirty first nationally in free throw attempt rate. Did you
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: want to know about the twenty twenty season, Yeah, what
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: was Yeah, that was a twenty third nationally. How many
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: schools attempt rate? I think three hundred and fifty some
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen season. You can go back to that thirty
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: sixth nationally in free throw attempt rate.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know how.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: I mean years when I go back there seven Yeah, I.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Don't know how they called the game. I mean it's
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: so physical, that is true. Have you call it and
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: with I think and I'd love to talk to officials
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: about this. What you hope for is it's just an
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: equal whistle that's called fairly.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Lots of times. It's surprised. I mean when you look
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: at the statute at the end of the game, I
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: mean it's not surprising to be within one to three
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: files between the two teams by the time it's over.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: It's basketball. College basketball at this level has become like
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: like defensive backs and receivers and pass interference. Right, there's
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: you're allowed to put your hands on but when you're
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: allowed to put your hands and why did you call
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: that a fly? Why did you pick that flag up?
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: There were that There's no doubt. It's really hard. I
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: get it.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's a lot different than in football
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: when you're calling targeting because that's exact. I mean, you
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: know exactly what you're getting with targeting on this.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no fair there's all the time, correct right, correct, Okay,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: I'm done. That was a lot of numbers.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: It's good.
• 54:29
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• 54:31
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• 54:32
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• 54:36
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• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I would just I just think you should come back
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: and correct the fact that you say that West Virginia
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: takes all those free throws. That can't be right because
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: West Virginia always get screwed by the officials. Everyone knows that.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Hmm, Well, don't worry. I'll probably say that at some
• 54:51
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• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Year, because there will be a time when you get
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: a bad whistle. But you know what coaches what a
• 55:03
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• 55:06
  Speaker 2: get a bad whistle, you gotta play through it.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of them here. Can I just give
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  Speaker 1: you one? The Bears only give up one hundred and
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: forty four rushing yards per game average, West Virginia averages
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: one ninety. Is it more likely we rush for more
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: than one ninety? Or that Baylor wins the turnover battle?
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Good one?
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Is it more like? Say that again, it is more likely?
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Is it more likely that West Virginia will rush for
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: one hundred and ninety or more yards or that Baylor
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: wins the turnover battle?
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure either ones likely.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: The question is which is more likely? Oh?
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, what's more likely? Probably Baylor that wins the turnover
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, statistically it would be Baylor, even though Baylor's
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: even on turnovers West Virginia's minus four Westfield. I think
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: it's if you got one hundred and ninety yards rushing
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: brand you probably win. You'd be thrilled, absolutely thrilled. I
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: don't think you get there, but it'd be nice.
• 58:22
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• 58:28
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• 58:31
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• 58:35
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• 58:39
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• 58:42
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• 58:45
  Speaker 2: behind in their matches.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, last night, just a couple of minutes in they
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: gave up a goal and then within a matter of
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: minutes they answered right back. I was listening, by the
• 58:54
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• 58:56
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• 58:59
  Speaker 1: young man from you ninety two the campus radio station
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: had a very nice call on that. I was listening
• 59:04
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• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I like the idea of the speakeasy, but you've scheduled
• 59:13
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• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Really well, maybe yeah, I don't know. I mean, how
• 59:19
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• 59:21
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• 59:22
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• 59:28
  Speaker 3: That's the point.
• 59:29
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  Speaker 1: There's no one knows where it is?
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:52
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• 1:01:53
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• 1:01:54
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• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: the other yellow, that's why he got ejected with the red. Anyway,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: thanks for bringing it up. So there's the picture that
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: is the greatest picture in the world. Big kids got
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: his shirt off. He's taller than the ref. That makes
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: it even more funny. And he's hugging the ref and
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: the ref's got that and hit that red like that's
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: not shoulder high for that referee. I mean, he's all
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: the way up as high as he can go. You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's really remarkable. First of all, the stories that come
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: out of that game for those kids later on in life,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: right as they celebrate that state championship in these scored
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: in the last moment and you add something like that
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: onto it, that's those are going to be funny stories
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: twenty five years on.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Those guys get together, and that's what Tyler will tell
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: his kids and grand kids. You know, like, I want
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: to show you this picture. What are you dan, What
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: are you getting a red card for?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, Texters say yeah, that's a separate explanation to Hey,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: so you'll get a red card.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Hey.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Scope senator and Swiss cheese aficionado planned a tailgate and
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: acquired twenty tickets to the Cincinnata game. Well, I've cultivated
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: a group of several local, non West Virginia grads into
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: mountaineer fans. Well done, and the tailgate through a company
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: that organizes a ready made tailgate. Upon arriving, the manager
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: of said company offered us an on field suite for
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: eight people. Selfishly, I readily accepted. We had the time
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: of our lives throughout the win, even going on the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: field after the victory. Look pictures.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: After all the texts I received, I assumed there were
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: that we were famous for all our celebratory antics on
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: camera during the game. The only shock was when we
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: received a bill for the alcohol that we over imbibed,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: assuming it was included in the deal. Also, I may
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: have told Rashid Marshall, how handsome. He was very awkward
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: for my wife. On leaving the field after the game,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: we could not resist resist giving a thanks for having
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: us signed by P seven listener Ryan and Covington, Kentucky.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: I asked, I saw Rashida Das said, Dude, some drunk
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: guy come up to you at the field said that
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: you were handsome. He goes, yeah, that's kind of weird.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: I kid when I say he was drunk, but he
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: said he over and vibe. So I'm making that assumption hoppy?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Is that fair?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: What sounds to me like they embraced the atmosphere there,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: had a good time and saw Rashid.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: They gotta win.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Wish He is a good looking guy.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: He's a fine looking man, he said. The most popular
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: shape than when he played.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's in tremendous shape.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's in better shape than when he played.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I'd say he's in similar shape.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: No chance he's in better shape than when he played.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Because you know why he hasn't been He hasn't had
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: had to run the ball sixteen times in a game
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: and get beat up.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is said. The most popular guy in town
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: is always the backup quarterback. I think if Garrett trots
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: on the field Saturday, possibility, some in the crowd might boom.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I would hope not on That is the absolute worst
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: thing our fans could do, especially the way that Gigi
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: has given us one hundred percent stuck with us since
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: high school. Please use all of your three guys Metro
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: News MSN powers to encourage people to cheer whichever quarterback
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: starts the game's Saturday. Signed by Steve in Tennessee.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think that would happen. No, I would hope not.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Texter says this football season has felt very uneven and
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: difficult to enjoy. Living outside of the state for over
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: two decades, I can say the feelings of constant highs
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: and lows not particular to Mountaineers, and had been worse
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: in recent years. I looked at the Big Twelve standing
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: this week, thinking about opportunities that lie in front, and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: I was struck with some of what I remember to
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: be the preseason rankings. While the Old Golden Blue are
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: technically sixth with tie breakers, they were picked seven some
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: conference breathen feeling a lot worse are folks at the
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: bottom preseason ranking twelfth Kansas currently in twelve. They were
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: picked four. UF they were picked eight or thirteen. Arizona
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: picked five, they're fourteen. Utah's picked first, they're fifteen. Who
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: that'll make your ad get mad? Oklahoma State they were
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: picked three. They's sixteen. I'm not sure it really makes
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: me feel better, but it does give some context to
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: the ridiculous volatility of current major college athletes. Thanks two
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: and a half guys for all the insights, straight up
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: entertainment and connection to my home state each week. Signed
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: by p One Vince in Indianapolis.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: I know nobody wants to hear this, but as you
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: look down the records of college football teams, I think
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: ninety five percent of them bred are five and four,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: six and three.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: It's some balance. Yeah, yeah, listen, that's a good text
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: on some of those numbers. This league has proven to
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: be what we thought it was in the summer, that
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: it would be tightly packed and you didn't know. And
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: the Polsters missed again for the second year in a
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: row when trying to pick the preseason poll, and they
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: missed horrifically. And yeah, it's a topsy turvy competitive league.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: And this hit in a college football playoff discussion. Unfortunately,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: that hurts a national narrative for people that want to
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: prop up the SEC and the Big ten. But this
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: is an entertaining league week to week because of the
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: nature of what we always say, and we're joking about
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: it for this Baylor game. But it's another spread that's
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: right in that two and a half three range, which
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: keep a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: When I said, Laurie, by the way handles that fleascheter riff.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: When I said that five and four, six and three,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: I was being hyperbolic.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: But there's a lot we got it.
• 1:09:02
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• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: concludes our direct comment to Periopolis. That's interesting, Nate in
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: the kanav Valley, Well, if we're going to lose the
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: tailgate spot to a business, at least it's a donut
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: shop donuts while shopping at Daniels seems like a pretty
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: good time time to me, rapid Fire. What is each
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: guy's favorite donut? Signed by Nate and Kanaw Valley?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Cake cake, donut, cake donut, which I guess is they
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: called YaST donut?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: Is that plane?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Plane?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, plain cake donut Okay, I'm a chocolate cake donut
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: with chocolate icing.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I'll go with that too.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Glaize, yeah, glaze. Okay.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: We're very it sounds like very traditional guys here.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Texter apologies for being a week late on this text.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: But for a chocolate on chocolate donut, there's some donuts
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: upstairs there a chocolate on chocolate cake. Not sure I'll
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: eat those chocolate glaze though, too, I'm not. I'm not
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: a post to that. Would you go?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's say.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Well, creamfield too? I take that donuts are a week
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: spot form or.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Here's a question. So I don't think we eat that
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: many donuts, but we we would we like them, you know?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: So let's say you're craving a doughnut or a snack
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: and you look at the what's brought in upstairs and
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: there's one donut left and it has sprinkles?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Would you I'm not opposed to sprinkles, so you would go.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: If I was hungry and one donut left with but
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: as a sprinkle, absolutely, absolutely?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah you don't like sprinkles, Yeah, i'man no sprinkle?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: You do sprinkles?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: If it was a chocolate cake done with chocolate icing,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: If I was hungry and it was the last donut, wouldn't. Absolutely.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: I might eat the cardboard that comes in the box. You.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: I also like those chocolate donuts with a coconut on those.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll eat that too.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you a donut story. So my dad's
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: grocery store, So it was an L shaped checkout counter.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: So the cast registers right here, and then the l
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: here people put their food there, and then we had
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: boxes of fresh donuts Freddy's Donuts, Buffalo, New York, legendary place,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: and they went from here to here. So I'm a kid,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: I'm probably like ten twelve years old, thirteen, working the
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: cast register, and those fresh donuts would come in from Buffalo.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Oh I would eat, I'm not and I hand to
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: the Bible here. I would eat minimum six glazed donuts
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: without without even without even cracking a sweat, like six
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: to eight times. I would just and what I would
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: do such a slob.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: You'd you'd scrunch it and then pound it.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: It takes two bites, yeah, fold it, boom blah blah
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: blah blah, another one and wash it down with a cola.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: Boy, how you are still standing? It's all real quick.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: We're already way off the subject. Did you were there
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: any limits put in place by your dad on stuff?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: You could just walk over and grab four Snickers bars
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: if you want.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So his whole deal was like he if I
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: ate good food, I could eat a barge one.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Because you could do the sandwiches you had the full
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: made door to grip all that stuff.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: And when I was in my peak growth tier at time,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: like seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh grade, we had a
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: twenty five foot lunch counter, had a beautiful a beautiful grill.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: I would eat two large subs every day that I
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: would make, like I would make these unbelievable things just
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: like sausage, peppers, mushrooms on warm, any of the roll
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: I'd eat two of those a day, and then I'd
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: eat pizza.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: So all that was fine, Like I get that, but
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: I've also seen you attack M and m's and stuff,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: and that stuff just is sitting out in the store.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So his deal on that was like he like
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: if it was just like horrifically sugar bad food, Like
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: he might look at me every once in a while
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: and go like, don't be stupid, like go get five apples.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: But never really know you can't do that, or.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Y no, no, no, no, Well, heck, I was free labor.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: It was the greatest deal in the world for him.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: He never paid me. It was indentured servitude, Like, oh hey,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: he ate eleven dollars worth of food today, so what
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: probably all I'm like a couple thousand boy away. Sorry anyway,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: I apologize for being late on this Tony. Does Tony
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: have an impersonation of fellow Syracuse alum and bear cat
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: play by playing Cincinnati Bengals play by play boys Dan
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: Horde Scott from the Woodlands. No, I don't have a Horde.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: By the way, Dan is being honored next week getting
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: the Marty Glickman Award, which is the highest honor you
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: can get at Syracuse. Marty Glickman, legendary Olympian, Syracuse grat
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: an announcer. And he gets the Glickman Award in New
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: York City. Yeah, congratulations Dan, Yeah great, that's great. By
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: the way, Horrd does a lot of great imitations. All
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: of us guys do them, and so like, I think
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: he might have a Sean.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Isn't that. Don't you have a class at Syracuse?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have it.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: You have to do a Sean like Shawn impersonations one.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Very good Dan Horde. By the way, McDonough is introducing
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: Horde for the Glickman Award. He's a wonderful young man.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: Known him for many years. Uh Texter. The speak Easy
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Raid at the end of the last episode was solid gold.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Keep up the a plus content. Oh that was when
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: we were doing all righter Medley. Get out of there.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: You better get him out the back door before the
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: please get here?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: All right, where's this delightful Dave? We know he's the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: guy that put this thing together.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: Boy, keep going. You got a lot of texts.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Hey was great to root for the women's hoop team
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: while building cabinets. I even got to listen to two
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: of my favorite songs, which happened to make my day.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: I watch a lot of sports, even put it on
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: for background noise. But why is our student section? Why
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: is it? Our student section seems like it's it's far
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: away as possible compared to other schools. Most teams you
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: see the students behind the hoops to be as much
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: of a distraction the other teams shoot file shots. I
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: feel like one side lower level. As much as I
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: hate to say, Pittfit puts their students in the end zone.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: Causes quite the disturbance. I know they're not going to
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: change where they sit tomorrow because of my comment, but
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: I'd also love to hear input as to why, also Tony,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: if Andrew was not introduced as Andrew, I don't know
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: if I would have been able to tell the difference.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I believe West Virginia will be great hands for years
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: to come. Great they to be a mountain here, thank
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: you very much. So obviously West Virginia's got a little
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: bit behind its baskets is an extremely unique Not many
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: places look like West Virginia does. Behind the basket. What
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: is there's like about what? As they say, fifteen feet
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: and then some cabinets they're they're not cabinets in the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: old days.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what what's back there now?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: I don't you got the you got the Peak club
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: on one end and then you got the tunnel.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought, kid, I know what you're saying. You
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: used to look like that, Thank you very much.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: The less so I've learned through the years, sir, like
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: I don't go anywhere near any conversations that ask about seeding.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Who sings this song? I like, I'm sorry, but I
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: just like I'm out. I don't do it, don't need it,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: not worth it. And that's why that's why this guy, Yeah,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: that's why he got out there, which she.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: Would have abided by that when I worked there and
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: was in charge of it, didn't come to you with
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: that stuff. He and other radio station employees love to
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: I'm out of it, though I've retired from it.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Other radio station employees, Yeah, constant pain in my.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Chased you out of the business. I hate to see it.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: You didn't have anything to do with cheerleading. Did you
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: taking care of those issues? Did you? Yeah? You get
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: phone calls about the Mountaineer things like that.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: And phone calls about everything. Part of the deal.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: You're happy you don't get those calls anymore.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: It was a lot.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think I ever called you about anything.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: No, you didn't. You would not be on that list
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: of radio station folks that call a lot good and
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: you could probably guess a couple that it would go ahead.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: They probably call you and have like the perfect music
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: list that you need to play before the game.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: Everybody's got the music list. Everybody knows the perfect music list.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: And if you changed one, you might get some calls
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: You know, there are ten to twelve thousand people sitting
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: in that building. Chances of everybody liking the song that
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: you're playing are really slim.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Public Service announced, Hey three guys, Professor Vinnie here, So
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: I have been efforting on getting the Googles to add
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: pontoon boats to their map apps as a travel option.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: You'll be happy to know they have finally acquiesced to
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: my request see the picture attached. So now you can
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: do it by a pontoon. So he put in go
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh to Morgantown on a pontoon, and he put
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: calculated the time. So thank you, Professor vinniing. Of course,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: all pontoons come from the Premierre pontoon boat dealer in
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  Speaker 1: this sabbatical that Professor Vinnie's been pretty long is he
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  Speaker 1: obviously ain't teaching anyway. Here we go, Hey, three guys.
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  Speaker 1: Jake originally from Preston County, currently live West Texas. One
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  Speaker 1: of the couples that I go to church with the
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  Speaker 1: grandparents of Jaredeggy and another one of their other grandchildren
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  Speaker 1: is Kyler Jordan, who's playing linebacker for Baylor. They're flying
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  Speaker 1: in Morgantown for the game this week and watch Kyler
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  Speaker 1: always a West Virginia connection. I love that.
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  Speaker 3: That's a little nyst there. Yeah, add that note to
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  Speaker 3: your chart. That a good one.
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  Speaker 1: So his grandparents are going to be your Kyler Jordan.
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  Speaker 1: I'll make that note. I do it like McDonough.
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  Speaker 3: So that's a nice note.
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  Speaker 1: Want you want me to McDonough. Yeah, and the tackle
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  Speaker 1: made by Kyler Jordan. Grandparents from West Texas are here
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  Speaker 1: watching today in person.
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  Speaker 2: That's all you gotta do, very good. Yeah, you'll be
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  Speaker 2: ready for them.
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  Speaker 3: What's the grandparents of Jaredegi? Which is the ironic part
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  Speaker 3: of a grandparents?
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  Speaker 1: That's another couple. This is another couple and another one
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  Speaker 1: of their other grandchildren.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, right, what I'm saying that that was
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  Speaker 3: the whole point of the note that.
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  Speaker 1: They're the grandparents of Deggie and another one of their
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  Speaker 1: other grandchildren is Kyler.
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  Speaker 2: So Kyler Jordan and Jaredegi are second cousins, cousins.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, A good note Kyler Jordan,
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  Speaker 1: Hey cousin. Yeah, it's probably Yeah, they probably had a
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  Speaker 1: daughter and it's probably changed the name probably. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't change the songs. I don't ask for song
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  Speaker 1: changes or where the students sit and I don't do names.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna do that, though, I'll use that one. What's
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  Speaker 1: more likely to happen West Virginia makes the Big twelve
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  Speaker 1: title game or West Virginia loses out Sean and Florida.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you're losing.
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  Speaker 1: Out, Jeremy and Cooperstown. That's where the Baseball Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame I think is located.
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  Speaker 3: Still there is it, and I'm not sure the championship
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  Speaker 3: game set yet. There's some This is tricky for BYU
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  Speaker 3: this weekend against Kansas, although I think every single person
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  Speaker 3: placing a bet is on Kansas. I think every one
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  Speaker 3: of them, every bet is on Kansas. But I think
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  Speaker 3: every single bet that's on confirmed. I think every single
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  Speaker 3: bet that is being placed is on Kansas.
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  Speaker 2: Kansas maybe getting hot.
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  Speaker 1: They rolled last week. Jeremy says, it's been a roller
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  Speaker 1: coaster boys. Three to go everyone we need to lose
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  Speaker 1: ahead of us pretty much play each other. There's a
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  Speaker 1: path we went out. I love our chances playing in
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  Speaker 1: the title game. All I'm going to say about Baylor's
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  Speaker 1: They've never won in Morgantown. No need to break that
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  Speaker 1: streak now. Knock on wood quick West Virginia connection. My
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  Speaker 1: new company truck had been shipped to our Pittsburgh branch,
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  Speaker 1: so I drove down from New York to get it.
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  Speaker 1: Met a longtime friend from Buchanan in South Point for dinner.
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  Speaker 1: He showed up with a chrome flying West Virginia logo
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  Speaker 1: for my new ride. Thanks Richie. I love how we
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  Speaker 1: West Virginians know that a truck is not a truck
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  Speaker 1: without something WV you on it. Lastly, I love what
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  Speaker 1: Darren Devrees is doing beat pitt.
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  Speaker 2: I was a little I guess you all knew, but
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  Speaker 2: I forget things. I was a little surprised that Baylor
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  Speaker 2: had never won in Morgantown, thinking a couple of those
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  Speaker 2: Baylor teams, Brad were really good.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of number four there were four one year, yep,
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  Speaker 3: one of I thought Dana's best coaching job there.
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  Speaker 1: It was yeah, yeah, it absolutely was.
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  Speaker 2: Hello.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I guess they wanted all capitol letters speaking. Bringing pressure.
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  Speaker 3: Tony Gibson brought some pressure that night. Remember the cornerbacks
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  Speaker 3: were injury. You were playing with backup corners. Give me
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  Speaker 3: just brought a billion right out on the call.
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  Speaker 1: Seventy one interference penalties on Kevin White.
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  Speaker 3: And We've talked about this before, but I think it
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  Speaker 3: was Dana's best coaching job because of the mindset he
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  Speaker 3: put those guys in, right, So everything are not going
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  Speaker 3: to come in here and get bullied by those guys, right,
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  Speaker 3: everything short of punching people.
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  Speaker 1: Literally, I said, you can do anything you want to
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  Speaker 1: do except punch them.
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  Speaker 3: You will not get bullied by them. Yeah, and did not.
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  Speaker 2: Now Gibby would bring pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, roll dice, Yeah, he'll do Hi, Tony Bred
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  Speaker 1: and Hoppy, Hope you all have a safe trip to Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 1: Hope we come back with the w Absolutely loving the
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: way our men and women's teams are hustling and competing.
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  Speaker 1: So much fun to watch. With that being said, part
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  Speaker 1: of my heart crumbled when I heard there would be
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: no food court this week for Baylor. We could let
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  Speaker 1: Hoppy try it solo as a trial maybe and could
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  Speaker 1: be interesting. You see, I was only able to make
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  Speaker 1: it to one home game this year due to some
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: sickness death in the family. My wife and I work schedule. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: I've been planning for weeks in hopes of meeting, hanging out,
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  Speaker 1: devouring some rev keV BIBIEQ please be efforting to make
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  Speaker 1: it happen next year. I promise I'll be there early
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  Speaker 1: in the season. I support love you guys for all
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  Speaker 1: you do for the Mountaineer Athletics and will always be
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  Speaker 1: a P one listener. Seth and Charlestown.
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  Speaker 3: Well, sorry, Seth, that's a bummer.
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  Speaker 1: Well, listen, that's a bummer. Can we just tell him
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  Speaker 1: to go to Kevin's house, have Kevin warm something up?
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  Speaker 2: Probably not.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin would more than happy to do.
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  Speaker 2: That, don't He probably would, But don't put him in that.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin would be He's a pastor. That's what he does.
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  Speaker 1: He he helps people.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but I understand by the way I ordered a
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  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving turkey for Rivkev.
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  Speaker 1: Really yeah, he's just gonna smoke it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's a great idea, good idea. So he'll do
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  Speaker 1: that for people.
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  Speaker 2: No that they they're in they're in turkeys. Now, excuse me,
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  Speaker 2: they're in turkeys. Now what do you mean they're in turkey?
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  Speaker 2: I mean they've added turkeys to the menu and they're
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  Speaker 2: I think they're doing turkeys for Thanksgiving?
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  Speaker 1: I think so, Well, is this a special deal? He's
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  Speaker 1: doing it? Doing turkeys.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit?
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  Speaker 1: Can we get a ruling on this.
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  Speaker 2: I hope I'm not taking his family's things.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Siri, text Kevin Kane. What do you want to say?
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  Speaker 1: Are you guys smoking turkeys and selling them for Thanksgiving?
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  Speaker 1: Question mark? Please respond quickly. I'm on the air. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll find out.
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  Speaker 2: I hope. I thought we were at one of the
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  Speaker 2: tailgates and he was, you were and they were passed
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  Speaker 2: when Remember we're experimenting with turkey, he said, and we're
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  Speaker 2: trying to when turkey was delicious, it was moist.
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  Speaker 3: I never got any of that.
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  Speaker 1: It was very tasty.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I never got any of that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they are And then I thought, he said, I
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  Speaker 2: thought I understood that he was doing turkeys for Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 2: like he does for other events and you know, raise
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  Speaker 2: money for his calls.
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  Speaker 1: Get on. Was the source? Was it the website?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. This is like a four hour podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Just stand by one second, there's only two left. Do
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  Speaker 1: you believe what do you believe would be the backlash
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  Speaker 1: from the mainstream sports networks if West Virginia does the
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  Speaker 1: improbable and makes the title game in the Big Twelve
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: and then in the playoffs, going to be a lot
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: of unhappy big ten SEC fans out there, but being
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  Speaker 1: the fan, I might still say thanks for having us.
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  Speaker 1: What's the website source wv dot org. Last one, oh,
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  Speaker 1: and I got two more things. Had a great time
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  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati of the weekend. Shout out to the Republic
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  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati for hosting a first class tailgate. Everything from
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  Speaker 1: biscuits and gravy to ribs delicious. Plus we try their
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  Speaker 1: Not bad, but our nil connects our nil in connection
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  Speaker 1: three or four much better. I'll leave you all with
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  Speaker 1: a screenshot of me on TV again. We're two and
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  Speaker 1: zero one. My mug is shown there is under the
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  Speaker 1: number seventeen. That's Jenning's starcher at the contest.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, don't get all loud and chesty now that you
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  Speaker 3: confirm that.
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  Speaker 1: Because you're I was, hey, hey, he looked like Perlo
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  Speaker 1: basting backpedaling on.
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  Speaker 2: I was moving back all right.
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  Speaker 1: Last thing, Austin, let's get these pictures so we collectively
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  Speaker 1: us through Dave have floor level tickets too to women's
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  Speaker 1: basketball right underneath the basket, and Dave is willing to
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  Speaker 1: share those, so he sent out a text and said,
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  Speaker 1: if you'd like two tickets, tweet I think I'm sorry
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  Speaker 1: tweet to the last game. So this these two folks
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  Speaker 1: still cannot say thanks enough for the opportunity to go
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  Speaker 1: to the women's game. Great seats. My friend and coworker
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  Speaker 1: Beth and I had a great time, especially with an
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  Speaker 1: Auestome Mountaineer Win. I was a student during Press Virginia.
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  Speaker 1: It's good to see the women's team as the same
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  Speaker 1: grit and mentality to force thirty turnovers. I hope they
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed visiting our state from their neighborhood. Let's go Mountaineers
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  Speaker 1: and eat more lamb. So the young lady was the
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  Speaker 1: lady I bought the lamb from Jennifer. Yeah she is
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  Speaker 1: so so Dave sends that out as a tweet, and
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  Speaker 1: he'll do that on several occasions. Just follow three guys
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  Speaker 1: and you could get those floor seats per game.
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  Speaker 3: That's a pretty good deal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good deal.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good deal. And the women are coach Kelloggism. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: roll here, just knocked off Pitt very playing well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, things are a little chippy there. You watch the
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  Speaker 1: end of the pit game.
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  Speaker 2: Did well, it's the pit game.
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  Speaker 1: Some technical fouls there at.
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  Speaker 2: The end there was well, you don't come in here exactly,
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  Speaker 2: started throwing down bringing them back home.
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  Speaker 1: One back up the road, would you come on.
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  Speaker 1: We're back Sunday to drop the next episode. We'll recap
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