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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, December 19 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jaguars. Did you don't Jack, Jack Morris? Did you jaguars?
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Speaker 1: Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps that Jad says actually suns
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Speaker 1: Jaguarris drive Time starts right now. Welcome into Jack's drive Time.
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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. Wow, look at that shot. Lots of social
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Speaker 1: media post about the sunset this morning, sunrise, sunrise, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that happens in the morning. Yes, sunrise in the morning,
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Speaker 1: breaking news, the weather's turning tomorrow. You know that old saying.
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Speaker 1: You're a South Florida girl, right, red storm at night,
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Speaker 1: sailor's delight, red stil morning, sailors take morning. I saw
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Speaker 1: that the beautiful sunrise this morning, thought tomorrow is gonna
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Speaker 1: be a nasty day. That's me the weather man for you.
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Speaker 1: Are you talking about red storm, red sky at night,
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Speaker 1: sailor's delight? You never heard that saying red sty red
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Speaker 1: sky in the morning, sailor take morning. It means you
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Speaker 1: know generally, that means that was whatever I grew up
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Speaker 1: the Kansas. I knew it. The morrow of the story is,
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Speaker 1: I think the weather's turning. Yes, later today, tonight, tomorrow
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Speaker 1: it's going to rain. So enjoy a beautiful day today. Haircut. No,
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Speaker 1: I just just come to different. That's so nice for
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Speaker 1: you to notice John was bringing his a game today.
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Speaker 1: I am. You know what we have to bring our
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Speaker 1: a game when four and ten and the prospects don't
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Speaker 1: look all that good for a six and ten, you
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Speaker 1: know you better bring it? Um? Right, you get me?
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Speaker 1: Now you got I don't even explain it. Nice one.
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Speaker 1: Look at slint from out the gym. More reference there. Um.
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Speaker 1: Let me tell everybody this, just like that beautiful sunrise
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Speaker 1: this morning, you should stop by any Jacksonville area Tropical
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Speaker 1: Smoothie Cafe on Jaguars game day and get a three
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Speaker 1: dollars sunshine smoothie. Is that Joe official smoothie of the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Tropical Smoothie Cafe? Eat better, feel better, better, feel better.
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Speaker 1: It should be a sun rise smoothie, but we'll call
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Speaker 1: it the sun Shine Smoothie. And with that bump shot
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Speaker 1: that showed the sun starting to shine, it was a
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Speaker 1: beautiful transition. Yes, new day. Always back on the preps
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Speaker 1: field today, Dolphins week. You've been late, you've been looking
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Speaker 1: forward to this all season. I have. I'm very excited
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Speaker 1: homebound and you're coming back with us Sunday night, I am.
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Speaker 1: And then you're going back down Monday night. Yes, and
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Speaker 1: they're coming back up Tuesday night. Yes. You know that's
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Speaker 1: not really a lot of frequent flyer miles for all
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Speaker 1: the time you actually spend on the plane. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: a lot. It'll be worth it. It It seems like a waste.
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Speaker 1: Why are you coming back Monday because we have to work, John,
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Speaker 1: We have the show called Drive Time in the mornings
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Speaker 1: that we do. She's worried about getting wally pipped by you.
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Speaker 1: All right, I know who you're just sitting her Smith
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Speaker 1: Ameral morning should do a show whatever? Right, Well, so
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Speaker 1: here we go, um with the absolute avalanche of emails, tweets, texts,
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Speaker 1: and I suppose that if we took phone calls it
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Speaker 1: would be too of fire cut replace. Um. I thought
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Speaker 1: this morning we would deal with the Big three and
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Speaker 1: the Big three and not fired. Doug, Dave and Tom
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Speaker 1: uh talk about this season and talk about a to
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Speaker 1: do list. So why don't you get it started? All right?
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Speaker 1: Big thing one is putting ourselves in Doug moron shoes
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Speaker 1: obviously fighting for his job. But he said way earlier
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Speaker 1: on in the season. Not even when a team is successful,
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Speaker 1: you're still fighting for your job as a head coach.
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Speaker 1: He's put a lot of the blame on himself at times.
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Speaker 1: We think almost too much that every single thing that
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Speaker 1: has gone wrong Doug has put on himself, and that's
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Speaker 1: him being a head coach. But where he goes from here,
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Speaker 1: he's still saying these next two weeks, it's all about winning.
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Speaker 1: He's had to say a message the entire season, just
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Speaker 1: try to win a game. So let me ask you,
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Speaker 1: just straight up, do you think he really is coaching
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Speaker 1: for his job or is that just a valid perception
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Speaker 1: based on a team that at one point was three
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Speaker 1: and one and is all of a sudden now four
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Speaker 1: and ten. That's one and nine, and if they finish
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Speaker 1: one and eleven, which is possible, you know, is he
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Speaker 1: really doing that or is that just you know, the
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Speaker 1: common logic in the NFL that says no coach endures
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Speaker 1: that and and survives. All of these questions are impossible
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Speaker 1: to answer because there's no board here. Yeah, there's no
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Speaker 1: there's not seven people putting their heads together, so there's
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Speaker 1: no vibe to get if you follow me in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: It's great to speculate about these things. But Shod Khan
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Speaker 1: at some point will say this is what's going to happen.
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Speaker 1: This is you know, Tom you'll be back, Dave you'll
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Speaker 1: be back, Doug morown you'll be back. Um, or he'll say, Tom,
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Speaker 1: you decide who's going to be back. So I think, Um,
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Speaker 1: you're always coaching for your job, but it's a it's
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Speaker 1: a cumulative thing for Doug and I do think. Uh.
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Speaker 1: I believe Tom will be back. I think the whole
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Speaker 1: bunch has a good chance of being back. Um. But
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Speaker 1: I had no problem tackling this subject because it's more
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Speaker 1: about it to do list. I just wanted an overarching
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Speaker 1: thought from you on if what we're really experiencing right
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Speaker 1: now is just the you know, the common philosophy the
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Speaker 1: NFL is what you've got to change. Yeah. Um. I
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Speaker 1: believe that Tom will go to Shod at some point
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Speaker 1: and say, look at the injuries, look what happened, look
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Speaker 1: at the overarching thing. And I think that's why shods
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Speaker 1: approach is always a good one, and that he rarely
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Speaker 1: reacts quickly. And people will say, well, he fired Gus
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Speaker 1: mid season, but that was after that was on the
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Speaker 1: third leading that the third or fourth losing in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the fourth losing season, when it was a parent.
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Speaker 1: Doug just got into the a C Championship Game a
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Speaker 1: year ago, so it is a different dynamic. Um. So no,
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Speaker 1: I don't think the last two games necessarily for his job.
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Speaker 1: At the same time, I don't think the reason I'm
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Speaker 1: struggle with the question is when you say are you
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Speaker 1: coaching for the last two games? Your automatic thought is, well,
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Speaker 1: then why hasn't he just come out and say he's
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Speaker 1: gonna be back. Well, I think there are still conversations
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Speaker 1: to take place, but I think those conversations will involve
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Speaker 1: the cumulative rather than these last two games. It's crazy
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Speaker 1: to think that he's only been the head coach for
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Speaker 1: two seasons when you see all these fan comments about
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Speaker 1: calling for his job. He's been here two years as
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Speaker 1: a head coach, talking about us probably being here for
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Speaker 1: four losing seasons night and day. It's the a C
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Speaker 1: Championship game that really stands out to me, Um, because
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Speaker 1: nobody when we started last season, we weren't sure what
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Speaker 1: there was and they did a masterful job at piecing
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Speaker 1: it together when it was win one, lose one, win
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Speaker 1: win lose one, and then getting it together in the
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Speaker 1: second half of the season and obviously going further than
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Speaker 1: we anticipated. This year has been the exact opposite. It
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Speaker 1: was all put together and ready to go, and then
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Speaker 1: you know, injuries and poor performance by some players has
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Speaker 1: just turned it downhill. I just don't think you can
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Speaker 1: make a clear cut decision and say it is this
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Speaker 1: or it is that. I think you need to be
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Speaker 1: able to retool it and come back and say, hey,
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Speaker 1: you know, two thousand and nineteen is what's going to
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Speaker 1: define us. The easy if then scenario and logical if
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Speaker 1: you if you try to step back and so tough
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Speaker 1: tackle this question. Because every week it's such a real
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Speaker 1: time discussion. Meaning every week people are mad and they
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Speaker 1: and they see the and they say, well, that's coaching,
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Speaker 1: that's that's what this is, um And that's why it's
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Speaker 1: tough to do. It's tough to discuss in real time
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Speaker 1: on a daily basis. It's why for this franchise, I've
8:12
Speaker 1: always thought NFL owners do a better job if if
8:15
Speaker 1: they can be separately say why isn't he in town more?
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Speaker 1: I think it's better for an owner to be like Shot,
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Speaker 1: where he's not in town every day, he's not dealing
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Speaker 1: with the emotions of every moment and every you're not
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Speaker 1: driving to breakfast and having fifteen people say you gotta
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Speaker 1: fire this guy, you gotta find He can step back
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Speaker 1: and say the easy if then scenario here is when
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Speaker 1: this team was had a normal season of injuries, and
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Speaker 1: that was two thousand seventeen, meaning they were incredibly healthy
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Speaker 1: on defense last year, but they weren't incredibly healthy on
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Speaker 1: offense last year. They lost a rab before the season,
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Speaker 1: they dealt with stuff. They didn't have a lot of
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Speaker 1: season aating injuries, but they dealt with stuff. Brandon later
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Speaker 1: going for a big chunk of this season with every
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Speaker 1: offensive line man mr at least one start, you had
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Speaker 1: guys playing her um. So when you went into the
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Speaker 1: season and finished the season with what you built, they
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Speaker 1: went to ANFC Championship game. When you had a season
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Speaker 1: where the offensive line and the offensive line early, but
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Speaker 1: the offense lost most of the people that they game
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Speaker 1: planned around, you had an awful year. So he can
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Speaker 1: do it when he's got the parts. So the number
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Speaker 1: one thing on his to do list is to revamp
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Speaker 1: the offensive philosophy. I mean, the players are going to
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Speaker 1: come from from Tom and from Dave. But the number
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Speaker 1: one thing for him is how are we going to
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Speaker 1: play offense, how are you gonna score points? Well, I
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Speaker 1: mean it seems self evident, although it does appear your
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Speaker 1: answer is self evidence. Well again, people hate here in
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Speaker 1: this The offensive philosophy was six in the NFL last
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Speaker 1: year and ninth before the injuries this year. Yes, you've
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Speaker 1: got to improve the quarterback play and you've got to
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Speaker 1: get better wide receivers, which they tried to start doing
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Speaker 1: with the addition to DJ Chark this year. You hope
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Speaker 1: that was the first step of developing this thing. But
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Speaker 1: I believe this offensive philosophy, had you had Mark Easley,
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Speaker 1: Austin Sporran Jenkins, had you kept your offensive line healthy,
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Speaker 1: and had Leonard for Nette been healthy and Corey Grant,
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Speaker 1: this offensive philosophy that's so broken, would probably be between
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Speaker 1: tenth and fifteenth and the ELEGE and wouldn't be talking
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Speaker 1: about it. So, yes, you must improve those positions. Um, yes,
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Speaker 1: you must get better play out of them. But you
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Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to be the Kansas City Chiefs in
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles rams to be effective in this league. And
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Speaker 1: you're starting to see that in the last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, Saints are winning with defense.
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Speaker 1: The Bears are winning with defense. The Seahawks have come
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Speaker 1: on the Cowboys. Um, they're not going to get to
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Speaker 1: the Rams and the East level offensively next year. You're
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Speaker 1: not going to have a wide receiver corps that's one
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Speaker 1: of the top five in the league on this team
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Speaker 1: next year. It takes too long to develop that position.
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Speaker 1: But you can get better um, and you can improve
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Speaker 1: within the concept of what you're doing. I'll argue with
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Speaker 1: you on this that you could get if you get
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Speaker 1: the quarterback right, you could get a big chunk of
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Speaker 1: the way there. If Leonard for Nette comes out and
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Speaker 1: plays UM like Todd Gurley, right, you better find some receivers.
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Speaker 1: I get it that Todd Gurley is an elite back,
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Speaker 1: but you drafted Leonard for Nette with the idea number
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Speaker 1: four overall that he was an elite back too. So
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Speaker 1: if you can run the ball, Yeah, it seems that way.
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Speaker 1: It seems that way, although you know all the games
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Speaker 1: he missed with a hamstring this year leaves that question
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Speaker 1: mark out right. Right, Oh, so you've decided, well and
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Speaker 1: he's good. Yeah, I haven't seen a lead yet. No,
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a lead. But the Rams are a
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Speaker 1: team that runs everything through Gurley, right, and if you're
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Speaker 1: going to be that way and they're married before that,
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Speaker 1: people want to cut him, but they've got two more
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Speaker 1: years on his deal. That's guaranteed. They've got him at
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Speaker 1: least another year unless they trade him. Do you think
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of trade value there right now? We'll
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Speaker 1: see that's starting over completely with the running back court
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Speaker 1: because you're gonna assume that t j. Yelden's coming back,
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Speaker 1: he'll be looking for a contract and yeah, yeah, I
12:21
Speaker 1: hear things on the table when you had a season
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Speaker 1: and when you had the unavailability for that. Uh, I'm
12:27
Speaker 1: not sure people are going to be trying to trade
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Speaker 1: for that unavailability. Is you know, it's a problem. I
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Speaker 1: think the the receivers can definitely get better. The issue
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Speaker 1: you have is that is a position where it's extremely difficult,
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Speaker 1: maybe as difficult as quarterback to find a lead in
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Speaker 1: free agency. The reason they didn't go after a leading
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Speaker 1: free agency last year wasn't because they didn't want a
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. It's because Sammy Watkins was the only elite
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Speaker 1: guy out there. They were concerned about injuries. Um Allen
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Speaker 1: Robinson wasn't an elite wider series why they let him go.
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Speaker 1: They're hard to find. Mind uh, there has to be
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Speaker 1: efforts made. But Markis Lee was one of the best
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Speaker 1: two or three wives in the market last year. That's
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Speaker 1: why they resign him. As much as our fans don't
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Speaker 1: want to hear that because of what Marquis has or
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Speaker 1: hasn't been, that's the truth. It's gonna take some time
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Speaker 1: to get the wide receiver corps to that level. They've
13:19
Speaker 1: got to try to make a stride toward it, but
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Speaker 1: it's probably a couple of years for the wide receiver's
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Speaker 1: corps is what fans wanted to be. And remember the
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Speaker 1: Rams traded for Sammy Watkins before letting him go and
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Speaker 1: then replaced him with Brandon Cooks. So they didn't draft
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Speaker 1: these guys. They didn't draft Robert Woods. They have gone
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Speaker 1: through free agency and the trade market to find the receivers.
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Speaker 1: They're hard to find, their findable, but they're finally with
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Speaker 1: Woods and with Cooks. They found guys that make it
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Speaker 1: all work. But the whole offense there goes through Gally
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Speaker 1: Okay on a big thing. Too big thing too is
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Speaker 1: Dave Cobble obviously already looking at the draft and he
13:50
Speaker 1: has to have a big year, especially if the quarterback
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Speaker 1: is there that they want. But Brian, you and I
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Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday. They've made this mistake before. If
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Speaker 1: the quarterback isn't there, and it's a must and you
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Speaker 1: have to go get it, and it's a musk that
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Speaker 1: you get that quarterback here in Jacksonville. If it's not
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Speaker 1: the right guy, don't take that guy. How hard is
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Speaker 1: his job this year? And we got a question yesterday
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Speaker 1: for agree to disagree? Uh, you know, will shod Khan
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Speaker 1: trust Dave called Well to go and draft his quarterback
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Speaker 1: based on Blake portals and the response was, well, they
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Speaker 1: brought Tom Coughlin into work with Dave, and Tom has
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Speaker 1: certainly identified quarterbacks. So it's not a one pronged attack.
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Speaker 1: It's not what does Dave called Well alone think. But
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Speaker 1: it's a really difficult job because you right now you
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Speaker 1: don't know which underclassmen are going to declare. It seems
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Speaker 1: likely that Justin Herbert from Oregon and Dwayne Haskins from
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Speaker 1: Ohio State will declare. And when you look at the
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Speaker 1: mel Kuipers of the world, they all have those two
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Speaker 1: guys among the top fifteen players in the draft. This
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Speaker 1: is a very challenging task to discover which one of
14:52
Speaker 1: those kind of kind of like Ryan Leaf and Peyton
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Speaker 1: Manning years ago when they were one two with Goff
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Speaker 1: and Wentz right Mariota and um Jamis Winston. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you gotta you have to identify which is the guy
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Speaker 1: and then you know is he there and is he
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Speaker 1: worth spending the capital go get Well, you're not where
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Speaker 1: he is, And that's their challenge, that's their task. They
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Speaker 1: are in a situation where I do believe they will
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Speaker 1: feel forced to take a quarterback even if there's not one.
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Speaker 1: They are in danger. All of the pieces are there
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Speaker 1: to have a situation where you don't necessarily love a
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Speaker 1: guy and you talk yourself into it because you've got
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Speaker 1: to have one um the but you don't have to
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Speaker 1: take him. If you're five in a draft that's loaded
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Speaker 1: with defensive lineman, it would seem that you could back
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Speaker 1: up a place or two and accumulate some picks if
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Speaker 1: someone really wants Jonah Williams. But then if that's the
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Speaker 1: quarterback you want and you trade back and somebody jumps you,
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Speaker 1: it's still a quarterback. It's it's still a tough spot.
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Speaker 1: I don't see any way in the world. They can't
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Speaker 1: take the best quarterback on the board at number at
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Speaker 1: wherever they're picking next year. Um, Now, if they pass
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Speaker 1: on a quarterback and go into next season with unless
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Speaker 1: they have already made a move meaning Nick Foles, is
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Speaker 1: that it's there if they don't have that guy in
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Speaker 1: the house. I can't imagine the top ten of the
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Speaker 1: draft pass and the Jaguars not taking a quarterback, can
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Speaker 1: you know? And it's And the conversation goes to Patrick
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Speaker 1: Mahomes and DeShawn Watson, who both went between ten and sixteen.
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Speaker 1: I think is Watson went, Um, would you argue if
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars had taken one of those two guys at
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Speaker 1: number four where they took Leonard for that, you wouldn't.
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Speaker 1: You'd say that was a good pick and so right,
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Speaker 1: But I get that it's hindsight you can look at that,
16:51
Speaker 1: but using that as a guide, if you have a
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Speaker 1: quarterback that you identify, whether it comes in and starts
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Speaker 1: immediately like you know Wats and took over, or comes
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Speaker 1: in a year later like Mahomes did. If if you
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Speaker 1: have the guy who cares, whether you took him before
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Speaker 1: I guess or fourteen, although you know, I can you
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Speaker 1: know that if a guy belongs a little bit lower,
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Speaker 1: and they could accumulate some picks, especially when they need them.
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Speaker 1: But you can't do that quarterback because you're gonna get jump.
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Speaker 1: And the best story on that it's not a quarterback story.
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Speaker 1: But two thousand two, the Colts are trying to figure
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Speaker 1: out what to do in the draft, and Bill Polian
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Speaker 1: and Tony Dunji had both told this story. On draft day,
17:38
Speaker 1: everybody had Dwight Freeney. He was a little bit shorter,
17:42
Speaker 1: not quite your prototype defensive end. Everybody had in between
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Speaker 1: twenty and twenty five the Colts, I think we're picking tenth.
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Speaker 1: If I recaller somewhere in there and they're running on
17:52
Speaker 1: the treadmill together and not together, but on treadmills that
17:55
Speaker 1: are side by side, it's um and I forget which
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Speaker 1: one was talking back and forth. I'm assume if it's
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Speaker 1: take a story that it was Bill saying that, you know, people,
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Speaker 1: maybe he's a little lower, maybe trade back, and uh,
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Speaker 1: Tony told him, if if you like your guy, take
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Speaker 1: him in the first round. If you like your guy
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Speaker 1: at your spot, you've got to think to yourself, if
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Speaker 1: I trade back and lose this guy? Can I live
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Speaker 1: with myself? So that's where if you like the quarterback
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Speaker 1: in the first round and have to take him in
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Speaker 1: the first round, you probably like him at five as
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Speaker 1: much as you like him at eight. Alright, let's finish
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Speaker 1: big things with Tom. Tom Coughlin obviously a lack of
18:39
Speaker 1: discipline on this team this year. Does he need to
18:40
Speaker 1: get more involved in the off season and the draft process,
18:44
Speaker 1: in coaching with the team as a whole TC this offseason?
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Speaker 1: Where does he go from here regarding the front office
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Speaker 1: stand coaching? If we give the quarterback task today understanding
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Speaker 1: that Tom is gonna be heavily involved in that, Um,
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Speaker 1: what's the biggest thing on his to do list? Do
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Speaker 1: you suppose? Well, I still go for see. I think
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Speaker 1: you know, with the quarterback, it's nice excuse me, um,
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Speaker 1: when you get that Coughlin there, it's nice to say
19:14
Speaker 1: we give it today. If you're the executive vice president
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Speaker 1: Football Operations, If if your name is on this and
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Speaker 1: this is your thing, oh, there's no doubt the quarterback
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Speaker 1: better be yours, um, and it will be Tom. I
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Speaker 1: mean I don't. I don't got that for a minute.
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Speaker 1: But beyond that, well, Um. Beyond that, I think it
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Speaker 1: continues to be what it has been, which is which
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Speaker 1: is setting the vision, setting the course. I've heard all this, Um,
19:42
Speaker 1: I get emails about it all the time. How can
19:45
Speaker 1: this team be so on discipline? How can you have
19:47
Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalties when Tom Coffin's in the building. Tom
19:51
Speaker 1: Coughlin from the executive vice president's office can't enforce what's
19:55
Speaker 1: going on on the field. That's got to be the
19:57
Speaker 1: head coaches job. I think Doug would tell that, thank
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Speaker 1: Ta would say that it's nice in theory to have
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Speaker 1: Tom walk in the hallway and if he wants to
20:05
Speaker 1: give players the evil lif after something's happened, but he's
20:08
Speaker 1: not going to be the disciplinary in on this because
20:10
Speaker 1: it's not that role the subset. I think the most
20:14
Speaker 1: important thing he's going to do this offseason is work
20:18
Speaker 1: with Doug on the offensive coordinator. I mean, this is
20:22
Speaker 1: a guy who remember he was the passing game coordinator
20:26
Speaker 1: for the New York Giants when they won Super Bowl.
20:29
Speaker 1: Um was known for his work with Doug Flutie for
20:32
Speaker 1: years at Boston College. UM and then came down here
20:36
Speaker 1: and from two thousand built a built a six year
20:42
Speaker 1: period with Mark Keenan and Jimmy Right, all guys he
20:45
Speaker 1: identified and over that six year period, Jerry Rice and
20:49
Speaker 1: John Taylor didn't have any six year period with more
20:52
Speaker 1: catches and more yards than Mark Keenan and Jimmy. So
20:57
Speaker 1: he talked about his basic philosophy and he went drafted
21:00
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor and run the ball and use play action
21:02
Speaker 1: to set it up. But I I can't help but
21:05
Speaker 1: think they're going to have to go and get clever
21:07
Speaker 1: and find an offensive coordinator that will use that basic
21:11
Speaker 1: tool of play action and implement some of the more
21:15
Speaker 1: modern pot passing concepts that we have seen um from
21:19
Speaker 1: Andy Reid and the Patrick Mahomes and what we're seeing
21:22
Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield in Cleveland. Ye, there's a big myth
21:26
Speaker 1: about Tom going right now man because of his interview
21:28
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and maybe because of the
21:31
Speaker 1: way that that that they built this this time around,
21:35
Speaker 1: that he's a run only played defense nineteen fifties coach
21:42
Speaker 1: hit Mike Quick, former Eagles receiver who does their radio
21:45
Speaker 1: broadcast on the phone, and just listen to him. I
21:48
Speaker 1: shouldn't talk to him, but right now, the guy knows
21:52
Speaker 1: the passing game as well, as anyway, and he won
21:54
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I haven't basically talked to him about it,
21:58
Speaker 1: but I'm sure if we did, he was. And they
22:01
Speaker 1: won't Super Bowls because Eli put the ball in the
22:03
Speaker 1: air and made big plays in the passing game. Um,
22:07
Speaker 1: they won here because of that. Now they ran as well.
22:10
Speaker 1: But um, when they got here, they needed to win quickly.
22:16
Speaker 1: They needed to turn this thing around at the time,
22:19
Speaker 1: with their personnel the way it was set up. The
22:22
Speaker 1: best way to do that quickly was to do it
22:24
Speaker 1: the way they did it. They got four minutes the
22:26
Speaker 1: Super Bowl doing it. But it's not like Tom said,
22:30
Speaker 1: this is the only way to win. This is the
22:32
Speaker 1: only you know, that's not his ideal and it's not
22:36
Speaker 1: been his m O throughout the course of his career.
22:38
Speaker 1: The first move they're gonna make is to hire the
22:40
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, uh and then go get the quarterback. So
22:45
Speaker 1: I think that's the number one thing on his to do,
22:47
Speaker 1: to work with the coach and to come up with
22:49
Speaker 1: that guy that best um fits how they want to play.
22:55
Speaker 1: And I'll say it again, there are guys I'll throw
22:57
Speaker 1: a name out there. What about Pete Carmichael Jr. Um
23:01
Speaker 1: His dad was the first wide receiver's coach here and
23:03
Speaker 1: the guy who developed that, Jimmy and keenan uh troika
23:07
Speaker 1: with Mark Brunell, loved him, we all did. God bless
23:14
Speaker 1: him rest his soul. Uh Pete worked with Doug and
23:18
Speaker 1: is now the offensive coordinator in New Orleans right for
23:21
Speaker 1: the Saints US a great place for that dynamics. Sean
23:25
Speaker 1: Payton and how that one goes. You know, go find
23:27
Speaker 1: someone like that that has ties to Boston College and
23:30
Speaker 1: Tom and and Doug and New Orleans and what they've done.
23:33
Speaker 1: Now they've got the quarterback and if they had Blake
23:36
Speaker 1: Bortles is their quarterback, they wouldn't have this dynamic offense.
23:39
Speaker 1: You gotta get the quarterback. But I think if you
23:41
Speaker 1: go find someone like that and bring them in, I
23:44
Speaker 1: think Tom would be very involved in that. So that's
23:45
Speaker 1: what I put at the top of this to do list,
23:47
Speaker 1: And they're probably ten names that I don't even know.
23:50
Speaker 1: That's just one that I've been thinking about. But with
23:53
Speaker 1: the offensive cornator, you say that's the first thing to do,
23:55
Speaker 1: I would think the first thing regarding Tom and Doug
23:58
Speaker 1: their conversations, find out what you want to be offense
24:00
Speaker 1: before going to get in the guy from I think
24:02
Speaker 1: they know that, Tom said when he was on the
24:04
Speaker 1: radio a few weeks ago. They still want to be
24:07
Speaker 1: what they are. They just want to do it better
24:09
Speaker 1: with key players. Yes, they want to modernize it somewhat
24:11
Speaker 1: they wanted, but you gotta have the quarterback to make
24:13
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Speaker 1: But and my wife loves the Osmans mainly, but like
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Speaker 1: that means to oustin a just gonna say, you know
31:07
Speaker 1: you probably got ready here we go. Sure, might as
31:13
Speaker 1: well let's go to Brazil. Why not, Let's street the
31:16
Speaker 1: last two games as if they were the preseason, give
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Speaker 1: playing time for some reserves to see if they are
31:21
Speaker 1: worthy of next year's roster, and let's get the last
31:24
Speaker 1: two else hashtag not tanking, hashtag just being smart about
31:28
Speaker 1: the future. Well, Brian, we talked about this a lot,
31:31
Speaker 1: and it's uh so you want to see Corey Robinson play. Well,
31:36
Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of few guys who hasn't played.
31:39
Speaker 1: Here's the thing many many say this. Well, if I'm
31:47
Speaker 1: Doug Moron, I'm thinking to myself, don't tell me to
31:51
Speaker 1: do this and get ticked off if I lose this game? Sure,
31:54
Speaker 1: because the coaches are still trying. When we just talked
31:58
Speaker 1: about at the top of the show, difference between six
32:01
Speaker 1: and ten and four and twelve. You win these last
32:03
Speaker 1: two games, because I'm just telling you their mindset. You
32:06
Speaker 1: win these last two games all of a sudden at
32:08
Speaker 1: the end of the season. If you're making your case,
32:10
Speaker 1: if if you've got the white board up here and
32:12
Speaker 1: you're saying, why shouldn't you know? Um, if you win
32:15
Speaker 1: these last two games, you've won three the last five,
32:18
Speaker 1: and you look like you've gotten this thing together. Uh So,
32:22
Speaker 1: But to your point, Brian looking at offense, has not played, okay?
32:28
Speaker 1: Uh And and not because of injury. For instance, d J.
32:30
Speaker 1: Chark hasn't played because he's injured. Gosh knows whether you'll
32:33
Speaker 1: play or not. Um, But Josh Wells has played, Betty starting,
32:37
Speaker 1: Chris Reid has started at points this year. The only
32:40
Speaker 1: guy on offense that we have not seen on the field,
32:43
Speaker 1: that elusive reserve Corey Robinson, the fourth year offensive tackle
32:50
Speaker 1: from South Carolina. Right, you're already playing Dave Williams on
32:55
Speaker 1: the defensive side. Um, have we seen enough? The uncle?
33:00
Speaker 1: And yesterday or Monday, Doug said that he got Lyndon
33:04
Speaker 1: Johnson more snaps. Um. We saw Jared Wilson, We've seen
33:08
Speaker 1: c j. Rieva's the only spate, the only spot to make.
33:12
Speaker 1: There's no one left that would make sense in in theory.
33:17
Speaker 1: Is uh Cody Davis that safety? He played third base
33:24
Speaker 1: for the Cubs back in the day, and it was
33:26
Speaker 1: Jodie Davis. Um. Maybe Trey Herndon and Quentin Meeks, But
33:33
Speaker 1: do you want to see a j boy and Jalen
33:35
Speaker 1: Ramsey at the game. So those two guys can play.
33:36
Speaker 1: No so, And I'm not knocking Meeks and Herndon, but
33:41
Speaker 1: those would be the two guys with this entire roster
33:44
Speaker 1: that if they were playing more, I'd say, yeah, that
33:47
Speaker 1: makes sense. I want to see him. You liked him
33:49
Speaker 1: in training camp, You like what Meeks did in London
33:52
Speaker 1: against Philly, But I don't think you take Hayden boy A.
33:58
Speaker 1: Go back there right now and tell Doug you can't
34:01
Speaker 1: play boy A Ramsey and Hayden Tell on Friday Friday
34:06
Speaker 1: when listen try this one on for sizes. You can't
34:09
Speaker 1: play Jalen, you gotta play Meeks. Fans will like it.
34:12
Speaker 1: Next question, Thanks question Marcus Jacksonville. Another week and you're
34:17
Speaker 1: having a clear up misunderstandings about Jalen Ramsey's comments. My
34:21
Speaker 1: question is, how many consecutive weeks of selfish comments will
34:24
Speaker 1: it take for you to realize that this guy is
34:26
Speaker 1: indeed only out for himself. Well, Marcus, here's the answer
34:31
Speaker 1: that question. Don'articularly care what everybody else thinks about Jalen
34:36
Speaker 1: right now. Uh, it's not my job to listen to
34:39
Speaker 1: their narratives. If you follow me, the national media and
34:46
Speaker 1: people who observe this team from AFAR are going to
34:50
Speaker 1: think one way about Jalen right now because it's driven
34:53
Speaker 1: into their brains on him. He caused this, I get it.
34:59
Speaker 1: But he is not a problem in this locker room.
35:05
Speaker 1: He is moving further and further away from self. And
35:08
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's he's always going to be Jaalen,
35:11
Speaker 1: but he is not a problem in this locker room.
35:13
Speaker 1: He's not acting selfish right now. What he said on
35:15
Speaker 1: Monday was not meant to be self. On Sunday meant himself.
35:18
Speaker 1: So Marcus back and watch yesterday's show, because in Ashland's analysis,
35:23
Speaker 1: it was a good one. We played the entirety of
35:25
Speaker 1: both the Nashville and last Sunday soundbites and laid it
35:29
Speaker 1: out and gave some perspective to it that quite honestly,
35:33
Speaker 1: the national media doesn't see, doesn't care about there. There
35:36
Speaker 1: they're playing, And to be fair to them, the g
35:41
Speaker 1: Q article gave them everything they thought they need to know.
35:44
Speaker 1: Jen brought all on himself, all on himself. But if
35:47
Speaker 1: you go back over the last couple of weeks, especially
35:49
Speaker 1: post Nashville, post Redskins, and listen to the entirety of it,
35:54
Speaker 1: or if you're standing there like we were, then you
35:58
Speaker 1: understand the context which gets missed in Twitter, which I
36:02
Speaker 1: think you can get on your phone. Man. Here's how
36:04
Speaker 1: you know if Jalen's being two point oh, which is
36:10
Speaker 1: Jalen in selfish mode earlier in the season which he
36:13
Speaker 1: was at or I just even say, uh selfish but
36:17
Speaker 1: me not thinking about anything center is a way to
36:20
Speaker 1: put it. When he rolls his eyes at the question
36:23
Speaker 1: and gives and gives one word answers, that's two point
36:28
Speaker 1: right now. Jalen is trying very hard to figure out
36:33
Speaker 1: how to be more professional, how to not have these
36:38
Speaker 1: things be firestorm. He doesn't mind publicity, but he's he's
36:42
Speaker 1: working very hard at it. He's not rolling his eyes
36:44
Speaker 1: during interviews, he's not giving bad body language. He's just
36:48
Speaker 1: trying to answer questions. The last time I saw two
36:51
Speaker 1: point oh was in the locker room at Lucas Oil
36:54
Speaker 1: Stadium after he had a terrible game. I described it
36:58
Speaker 1: as the worst game of his professional career. Yeah, he
37:01
Speaker 1: would Um, that was the last time we saw it.
37:03
Speaker 1: From that point forward, we saw Jalen Ramsay and uh.
37:07
Speaker 1: As I've said many times over the last five weeks,
37:09
Speaker 1: it is a refreshing sight to see and it's one
37:12
Speaker 1: that you have to find encouraging for his future in
37:14
Speaker 1: Jacksonville that he's embracing being a guy that is a
37:18
Speaker 1: go to guy. So my final thought with Marcus was,
37:20
Speaker 1: if you want the consensus and the easy shot at Jaalen,
37:24
Speaker 1: there's a million places to get it. You're not gonna
37:26
Speaker 1: get it from me right now, nor this program. Yeah, okay,
37:31
Speaker 1: well you got sister Rusty last one. The Jabs got
37:35
Speaker 1: a sixth rounder for Blaine Gabbert and someone to take
37:37
Speaker 1: over his contract even though he was on the way
37:40
Speaker 1: out here. Any chances we have the same luck with
37:42
Speaker 1: Blake bordles Um maybe something like it, but probably not
37:52
Speaker 1: meaning when Blaine was out. First of all, Blaine had
37:57
Speaker 1: from a general manager's point of view, if somebody pursuing
38:00
Speaker 1: a quarterback, he had the advantage of being prototype. Blaine
38:05
Speaker 1: has a cannon for r stand in the pocket. Uh.
38:08
Speaker 1: He had failed here. I think he got traded after
38:13
Speaker 1: his third year here. He did so he he had
38:19
Speaker 1: played with really bad teams, but the twelve and thirteen
38:26
Speaker 1: teams were really talent deprived. Uh. And and there was
38:31
Speaker 1: still a case maybe you hadn't seen enough from a
38:37
Speaker 1: kid with obvious physical times with Blake. Um, he is
38:41
Speaker 1: what he is, Yeah, and what he is isn't all bad.
38:45
Speaker 1: I think what he is can be a backup certainly
38:48
Speaker 1: who can come in and get you through. But I'm
38:51
Speaker 1: not sure people are gonna trade for. What he is
38:53
Speaker 1: is a guy that when you have a strong running
38:55
Speaker 1: game and receivers a good offensive line, he fits in
38:58
Speaker 1: and he can drive the car. But he can't push
39:01
Speaker 1: it all by himself when there aren't those components to
39:04
Speaker 1: make it happen. Otherwords, he, unlike Ben Roethlisberger or Tom Brady,
39:08
Speaker 1: can't lift the team up and move it by himself.
39:11
Speaker 1: But he can sit in the driver's seat when other
39:13
Speaker 1: people are there to push. I actually had a good
39:15
Speaker 1: email on this this week, better than Marcus's. UM who
39:20
Speaker 1: I love. Mars is a long time readers and emails
39:24
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm just making fun him on this one. Um.
39:28
Speaker 1: They made the analogy they signed Blake to lift two
39:33
Speaker 1: hundred pounds and soured on him when he couldn't lift five.
39:38
Speaker 1: But its analogy. Marcus gave you that. No, Marcus didn't.
39:42
Speaker 1: I forget who Marcus sound a bad week? Marcus. It's
39:46
Speaker 1: probably capable of that, but I don't think that was.
39:48
Speaker 1: You know, I was watching the Steelers Patriots game on Sunday,
39:50
Speaker 1: and I don't Maybe it was because Byron Leftwich went there.
39:54
Speaker 1: I could see him going to Pittsburgh and being a
39:58
Speaker 1: backup there. I know they rafted Mason Rudolph. I got
40:01
Speaker 1: all that. I just I could see him going up there.
40:03
Speaker 1: He's a Ben Roethlisberger guy. They were close. Would shock
40:07
Speaker 1: you at all to see him go to a team,
40:09
Speaker 1: a pretty good team. The starter gets hurt for a
40:13
Speaker 1: three or four games, stretch him, come in and went
40:15
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40:17
Speaker 1: make it happen? He saw last December what he was
40:19
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40:23
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40:27
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Speaker 1: what that means exactly, But I'm going to give it
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Speaker 1: over to Ashley ass get your born John hurry? Are
42:51
Speaker 1: you rumble? Oh yeah? First day school? The first Ashlyns
43:00
Speaker 1: who used to have two good weeks to make their
43:02
Speaker 1: case to stay on this team. In two thousand nights
43:08
Speaker 1: we talked about getting more guys playing time. Who's making
43:12
Speaker 1: their case the next two weeks? At was that just
43:19
Speaker 1: a line? What do you mean by that? I'm gonna
43:24
Speaker 1: say it can't happen. I mean meaning these last two weeks,
43:29
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll make a case or secure anybody's
43:33
Speaker 1: job on the team because I think there's too much
43:36
Speaker 1: with the salary cap. I think there's too much that's
43:38
Speaker 1: already Like Clays Campbell, for example, uh already made his
43:46
Speaker 1: case if he has a bad couple of weeks. You know, Um,
43:50
Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's a guy who really fits that
43:52
Speaker 1: for me. So I'm gonna um because there there's a
43:59
Speaker 1: guy for me. Because if the Jaguars have any chance
44:02
Speaker 1: to win in Miami, they're gonna screw on defense, right.
44:05
Speaker 1: I mean, hello, news flash, Um, special teams did it
44:09
Speaker 1: last week, please do it again. But I'm gonna say
44:11
Speaker 1: Talvin Smith, Um, he looks like a guy who this
44:16
Speaker 1: year just I don't want to say he looked like
44:18
Speaker 1: he ate the whole pizza. But he went He was
44:20
Speaker 1: second team All Pro, went to the Pro Bowl, had
44:23
Speaker 1: all the adulation was on Good Morning Football on a
44:26
Speaker 1: regular basis. Last year. Is this thing was coming together,
44:28
Speaker 1: and I mean, good for him. He's got the personality
44:30
Speaker 1: to do it. Um, But he hasn't made plays this year.
44:33
Speaker 1: You know, he had the interception in Indianapolis, and I
44:37
Speaker 1: struggled to come up with another play that he's made.
44:41
Speaker 1: He's an undersized linebacker, He's got speed, he's obviously a
44:44
Speaker 1: tough guy. But what he's got is this knack for
44:46
Speaker 1: the football, which is why they put him in on
44:49
Speaker 1: the week side, despite the fact that he routinely plays
44:52
Speaker 1: the game a two eighteen two and fifteen pounds um.
44:55
Speaker 1: In order for the Jaguars to win, they're gonna need
44:58
Speaker 1: guys like Telvin Smith to make plays the next couple
45:00
Speaker 1: of weeks. So I will say Kelvin Smith is a
45:03
Speaker 1: guy who can make them see him in a different
45:06
Speaker 1: light in the next two day. And I mean there
45:09
Speaker 1: are guys who fit that for me. In terms of
45:12
Speaker 1: big questions, they're going to have to Shaun Gibson's another
45:14
Speaker 1: guy who's very capable of being a good place with
45:18
Speaker 1: a ten million dollars sal recap. No, yeah, and uh
45:21
Speaker 1: it's just and no dead money, you know, for Net
45:24
Speaker 1: the same deal I mean for Net could change his
45:27
Speaker 1: perception of a lot of people with two really big games.
45:31
Speaker 1: I just don't know if I think the story I
45:35
Speaker 1: said earlier it is going to be written more on
45:38
Speaker 1: what happened the entire season. It would happen these last
45:40
Speaker 1: two weeks. But for the sake of the argument, I
45:43
Speaker 1: would say to Sean Gibson, if if I have to
45:45
Speaker 1: have a name, we had to have a name. Didn't
45:47
Speaker 1: you hear her? As he didn't have to obviously didn't
45:50
Speaker 1: have to be really not. I accepted the answer. I didn't.
45:54
Speaker 1: I was gonna go with Miles Jack. I think he
45:55
Speaker 1: fits that storyline as well. Well, he'll definitely be back
45:57
Speaker 1: because his contractings have two good games changed story line
46:01
Speaker 1: of the season. What's it? Your question was be back
46:04
Speaker 1: with the team, not not like that. We're way off
46:07
Speaker 1: the rails. You're being dramatic. In other words, you can
46:10
Speaker 1: interpret the question. That's right, the question all right, the
46:13
Speaker 1: last guy, that's drama. You only have two that meant
46:16
Speaker 1: to the second one. Here we go Jags. Who has
46:20
Speaker 1: been the biggest disappointment this season? You can say, Joe Fortunato.
46:26
Speaker 1: This can be for corporation stuff, business stuff, with the
46:31
Speaker 1: songs that he's kicked out this year, right, even think
46:33
Speaker 1: he's the farthest thing from a disappointment. John, did you
46:37
Speaker 1: put yourself that's a given? Um, Yeah, there's a couple
46:44
Speaker 1: of guys, But I mean, I've got a safe for that.
46:47
Speaker 1: I mean, it's uh and I kind of feel bad
46:50
Speaker 1: going for the obvious, but with the injuries, more so
46:54
Speaker 1: with the way he's played at times, even after the
46:57
Speaker 1: injuries the last two weeks, I think you've been disappointing
46:59
Speaker 1: for later. Um, I wanted to put Donte Moncrief down,
47:03
Speaker 1: but the offensive line has been What were you expecting that? Well?
47:08
Speaker 1: I was expecting him to make a couple more big plays.
47:10
Speaker 1: Not eight yard touchdowns or sixty seven yard touchdowns, but
47:13
Speaker 1: I was expecting him to be that guy on third
47:15
Speaker 1: and eight who got to the marker and converted, kept
47:17
Speaker 1: you know, kept drives alive. I'm gonna go with Miles
47:20
Speaker 1: m because the way he finished the playoffs last year
47:24
Speaker 1: and the way that he worked in the off season.
47:27
Speaker 1: I mean, he was here every debt, constantly here. I
47:31
Speaker 1: thought he had tremendous training camp. I thought the limited
47:34
Speaker 1: time that we saw him in the preseason he was fantastic. Um.
47:39
Speaker 1: Maybe he in a sense was a victim of a
47:42
Speaker 1: defense that wasn't close to itself this year. I mean,
47:45
Speaker 1: you what tells you about this defense more than the
47:48
Speaker 1: fact that a year ago they had six Pro Bowlers
47:50
Speaker 1: and this year. They just have Jalen, Right. It tells
47:52
Speaker 1: you how how they've underperformed even all these star players.
47:55
Speaker 1: And I get that the offense hasn't helped them a
47:58
Speaker 1: lick um and they did have a shot out of
48:01
Speaker 1: the Colts. But Miles I thought would be more like
48:04
Speaker 1: televin game changing plays. He's been a solid tackler although
48:09
Speaker 1: he's the middle linebacker, and Derrick Henry ran for two
48:12
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight yards. He's got to have some
48:15
Speaker 1: of the blame in that one too, I would say.
48:17
Speaker 1: And I would say Telvin has been more disappointed than Miles.
48:21
Speaker 1: First of all, I get that, but I already used
48:24
Speaker 1: Telvin so right, so I assumed that that was the case. Um,
48:28
Speaker 1: And just to be argumentative, you know it's done that.
48:34
Speaker 1: I would say that Miles has been I expected him
48:38
Speaker 1: to be in the Pro Bowl this year and he's
48:40
Speaker 1: just been okay. Um, I would say Leonard has been
48:45
Speaker 1: less than okay. I expect that's why I had him disappointed.
48:50
Speaker 1: I expected from Miles this year that he was going
48:52
Speaker 1: to have a Jalen Ramsey kind of because remember we
48:55
Speaker 1: talked about it in August when those two guys came
48:57
Speaker 1: out when those two guys came out in the draft
48:59
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Alternately, people were telling me
49:03
Speaker 1: that Jalen Ramsey is the best player in this draft,
49:06
Speaker 1: or Miles Jack was the best player in this draft.
49:09
Speaker 1: And Myles had the knee, he had Paul pazz Lesnie here,
49:11
Speaker 1: he didn't step into the lineup. I figured his third
49:13
Speaker 1: year was going to be what jalen second year was,
49:16
Speaker 1: and we were going to see lights out play and
49:18
Speaker 1: I get it, he's the middle back or he can't
49:19
Speaker 1: do it all. But he was only okay this year.
49:22
Speaker 1: What you wonder is you know you're talking about Telvin.
49:25
Speaker 1: I don't know telling me back or not. Do you
49:29
Speaker 1: put Miles at week in the future, a week side
49:33
Speaker 1: where he might be better served, because I don't think
49:36
Speaker 1: you can put him a strong side again because you're
49:38
Speaker 1: limiting is his his players in the field. So you
49:41
Speaker 1: wonder if that's a move they make in the future.
49:43
Speaker 1: I don't know. His speed and his and his instincts
49:48
Speaker 1: are top shelf, right, they are absolute ones on the
49:52
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten or tens on one of ten. Um.
49:56
Speaker 1: I guess we'll wait and see. I'm assuming Telvin's back,
49:58
Speaker 1: so I don't think what I just said will happen,
50:00
Speaker 1: but you do wonder on that, all right? The last
50:03
Speaker 1: Ashlan ask Miami this weekend? What are we doing? What
50:09
Speaker 1: are you looking forward to? John? I thought you, Mack,
50:10
Speaker 1: why are we bothering? What are we doing? Okay? Like
50:14
Speaker 1: an exciting Now I get the uh what are we doing? Um?
50:20
Speaker 1: Let's see keep this PG please John? Ammy? What are
50:29
Speaker 1: we doing? Why are you hiding it from me? Brian?
50:38
Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm always ready. I'm going to Top
50:42
Speaker 1: Golf in Miami Gardens with the folks from t I
50:46
Speaker 1: A A Bank. A couple of times a year I
50:49
Speaker 1: go with them to various events and entertained clients, and
50:53
Speaker 1: we haven't been able to do it this year, and
50:56
Speaker 1: so we're gonna go do that. I don't golf, but
50:59
Speaker 1: at Top Golf I do. Yeah. And Slynn, I don't
51:02
Speaker 1: think you're in on this. But I met Rose the
51:04
Speaker 1: other night, So I'm heading Schlinz for dinner with the family,
51:11
Speaker 1: going to be there but my own home. Yeah, So
51:17
Speaker 1: met Rose the other night, so we're pals. I'm head over.
51:20
Speaker 1: Send me the address. I'll stop by, and the whole gang,
51:23
Speaker 1: not just me, the whole digital gang is going to
51:25
Speaker 1: Schlanz and Slens going somewhere else. It's gonna be a
51:28
Speaker 1: big night, tough, frozen. Look at Joe, he's all excited. Now,
51:32
Speaker 1: will you call Rose and let her over coming? I'll
51:36
Speaker 1: let her know. Or let's take a break and get
51:38
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53:36
Speaker 1: I got him. I gotta jag thirty for the record. Okay,
53:40
Speaker 1: where would you put him? Slim? Yeah? About um? Do
53:46
Speaker 1: you know why? And I'll put him at thirty two? Um?
53:51
Speaker 1: Because they don't have the quarterback things solved, you know.
53:52
Speaker 1: I mean, at least if you're going into the next season, Arizona,
53:55
Speaker 1: at least they have Josh Rosen and they feel real
53:57
Speaker 1: good about Yeah. Yeah people I talked to, Yeah, he
54:01
Speaker 1: wouldn't it's been very good last week because it's bad.
54:04
Speaker 1: I ain't playing with much either, right, how good would
54:06
Speaker 1: you be here? Also, don't have the quarterback problem, sawce.
54:10
Speaker 1: I'd put the Jagson. I think you think do you
54:12
Speaker 1: think Derek Carr is not? I mean he's got a
54:14
Speaker 1: four year deal. I know he's got a deal. He
54:16
Speaker 1: ain't going anywhere. I don't fry answer. So, yeah, but
54:19
Speaker 1: they committed a lot of money. Yeah yeah, sure, all right, whatever,
54:23
Speaker 1: I mean, what differences to make when you're you're not
54:25
Speaker 1: in the top ten? Who cares? Yeah, they're not in
54:27
Speaker 1: the top ten. I didn't have him there for a while.
54:31
Speaker 1: The tree top sweets and don't tweets tweets to sweets alright,
54:42
Speaker 1: first top tweet. We know how close Jalen Ramsey and
54:45
Speaker 1: Derwin James are from f s U. Both made the
54:49
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Big time for Derwin James to make it, obviously,
54:52
Speaker 1: Janna Rams stays beyond proud of you, brother, you deserve it.
54:54
Speaker 1: Can't wait to suit up with you again. Gus Bradley
54:57
Speaker 1: has made the most out of that rookie. Yes, watched
55:00
Speaker 1: the game, the Kansas City game Thursday night a week ago. Ah,
55:05
Speaker 1: it was terrific. You saw thirty three flash all over
55:07
Speaker 1: the field just like Jalen, and you can see why
55:10
Speaker 1: they're tight and being guess brother, he's done and unbelievable
55:14
Speaker 1: job with that defense. By the way, a lot of
55:16
Speaker 1: injuries on that defense are good for guys, all right,
55:19
Speaker 1: let's go to Sunday's game. We have a tweet and
55:21
Speaker 1: a video for this. Logan Cook warming up on the
55:25
Speaker 1: sidelines throwing a ball. Max, you gotta play the video.
55:29
Speaker 1: It is one of the war can't do it. Max says,
55:32
Speaker 1: he not do that anyhow. He throws the ball into
55:37
Speaker 1: He shut me down. There's gonna be some phisticuffs, ramification, ramifications. Anyway,
55:45
Speaker 1: he throws the ball into the ground. It's all over Twitter.
55:48
Speaker 1: It is a very poor throw and Logan Si Logan
55:50
Speaker 1: Cook says, you had to get one of my bad throws.
55:52
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I think he broke his legs, so
55:54
Speaker 1: he doesn't even have a chance to redeem himself. And
55:56
Speaker 1: warm ups this week for the titles. Hey, he's suffered
56:00
Speaker 1: to say, fibul he's done. Logan Cook. I'm sorry, Like,
56:03
Speaker 1: what are we what are we talking about? I was
56:06
Speaker 1: thinking Logan Ryan, Logan, Logan Cook. I don't know why.
56:11
Speaker 1: I just read about it. I just read about Logan
56:16
Speaker 1: I was thinking that was the Titans cornerback. Broken leg
56:20
Speaker 1: is a difficult thing, that's tough. Yeah, can't be done.
56:24
Speaker 1: All right, last one, we have to end it out
56:26
Speaker 1: on a bad note. Draft order. Gotta put it in there.
56:29
Speaker 1: You see it there, Number five Jacksonville Jaguars. More relative
56:33
Speaker 1: to what we expected, it's horrible, but relative to what
56:35
Speaker 1: they need to do, it's outstanding. The only bad note
56:38
Speaker 1: is that they're not in higher at this point. Yes, yeah,
56:42
Speaker 1: so I mean put that back up full screen if
56:44
Speaker 1: you if you don't mind Max. When you look at
56:46
Speaker 1: Arizona drafted the quarterback last year, so did the Jets.
56:49
Speaker 1: The Niners page Jimmy Garoppolo and he'll come back from
56:52
Speaker 1: his a c L. So at that spot right there,
56:56
Speaker 1: to get your quarterback, you either have to trade with
57:00
Speaker 1: Oakland if you think Oakland's gonna take one, or maybe
57:02
Speaker 1: Oakland sits there and takes the best defensive linement available
57:05
Speaker 1: right um, because they traded away Calttle Mack and they've
57:08
Speaker 1: got other first round picks. They don't have to take
57:10
Speaker 1: a quarterback that high, especially not with Derek Carr there,
57:13
Speaker 1: so that could be the number one position to be
57:15
Speaker 1: in for them. They don't need to go any higher. Well,
57:17
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be drama the Giants at eight. I
57:20
Speaker 1: don't think there's threats there Tampa Bay or they committed
57:24
Speaker 1: to Jamis Winston Um with quarterback. In this day and age,
57:29
Speaker 1: people will come a long way up to go get it.
57:33
Speaker 1: I think the Giants would scare you trying to trade
57:35
Speaker 1: up with somebody. H I think at five you're still
57:38
Speaker 1: looking at a scenario where they may have tried to
57:40
Speaker 1: move up well, and they do have the extra third
57:42
Speaker 1: round pick from the Dante Fowler junior trade. So again
57:47
Speaker 1: I don't know that for sure, but that will be
57:48
Speaker 1: a conversation there in that land where somebody will try
57:54
Speaker 1: to entice them by saying, hey, the Giants called us
57:56
Speaker 1: the Bears trade to move up and take Mitchell Tropisky.
57:59
Speaker 1: I think second, just to move one. It'll be expensive.
58:03
Speaker 1: But again, if you if it's your guy, you again,
58:07
Speaker 1: if you like your guy, you gotta get them. Okay, Well,
58:09
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a lot about that coming up in
58:11
Speaker 1: just a matter of weeks. So that'll do it for
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