Latest / District Territory / Nationals manager Blake Butera calls out team's defensive woes
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- 0:06Speaker 1: Welcome back to the District Territory Podcast. I'm Eric Shellhouse.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Alongside me, Spencer does pound well alongside me, Kevin Franzen.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, we finally got it right to me.
- 0:16Speaker 1: There we go to me next to me and Spencer
- 0:18Speaker 1: does bound at the athletic Happy.
- 0:20Speaker 3: May the fourth be with you guys.
- 0:22Speaker 1: I know Star Wars Day was Saturday at the ballpark.
- 0:24Speaker 1: I was very excited about that. But how we feel
- 0:26Speaker 1: in Franny grog Grogu, that's the word of the day.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:35Speaker 4: I had to figure out what Grogy was because it
- 0:37Speaker 4: looked like a baby Yoda and had no idea that
- 0:39Speaker 4: it was baby Yoda. But then I didn't even realize
- 0:41Speaker 4: he had a name, not even just baby Yoda.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Gogu, baby Yoda, teach, throw on, whatever you want to
- 0:47Speaker 1: call him. But yes, technically no, I.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Just had no idea. I'm good, you know what like
- 0:52Speaker 2: this weekend was? Uh?
- 0:55Speaker 4: I thought, as bad as the record is going to
- 0:59Speaker 4: show it in the game scores and all that stuff,
- 1:02Speaker 4: I thought it was an awesome weekend because I thought
- 1:04Speaker 4: we got more out of this than you could possibly imagine.
- 1:08Speaker 4: I mean there's been there's been some you know, not
- 1:11Speaker 4: some stellar play and it's being addressed.
- 1:16Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's that's kind of my big takeaway from
- 1:19Speaker 5: the week as well. I think in years past, and
- 1:23Speaker 5: I don't want to dwell too much on the past,
- 1:26Speaker 5: but when things like this happened, you never quite knew
- 1:31Speaker 5: how they were going to be addressed or how quickly
- 1:33Speaker 5: the team is going to be able to turn it around.
- 1:34Speaker 5: And that's not to say that they never did early
- 1:36Speaker 5: work or anything like that, or that guys weren't trying
- 1:39Speaker 5: or anything of that nature. But for Blake to come
- 1:42Speaker 5: out on Saturday, it was and say we can't lead
- 1:48Speaker 5: the league in airs and expect to win ball games.
- 1:50Speaker 5: Like and Eric, we were talking about this a little
- 1:52Speaker 5: bit before the show. That's not just a message to
- 1:54Speaker 5: the media. That's a message to the players, that's a
- 1:56Speaker 5: message to the organization. It's a message to the fans
- 2:00Speaker 5: who said, you know, we want to see a team
- 2:03Speaker 5: that we're proud of in this city, a place style
- 2:05Speaker 5: that we're proud of in this city. And so yeah,
- 2:08Speaker 5: I thought it was really compelling for him to come
- 2:09Speaker 5: out and.
- 2:10Speaker 6: Just say that.
- 2:12Speaker 5: Frannie, Again, I don't know how much of that stuff
- 2:15Speaker 5: leaks into the players when it's said in like a
- 2:18Speaker 5: press conference versus how much is just addressed behind closed doors.
- 2:22Speaker 5: But for me that's at least as a media member,
- 2:24Speaker 5: That's how I took it.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Well.
- 2:26Speaker 4: I think the manager speaks through the media quite often
- 2:29Speaker 4: to the players as much as the player doesn't want
- 2:32Speaker 4: to say that.
- 2:33Speaker 2: They pay attention.
- 2:33Speaker 4: They pay attention to everything you see it. People are
- 2:36Speaker 4: going to be sending you stuff. So I think it
- 2:41Speaker 4: was you know, you're not going to call a team
- 2:44Speaker 4: meeting in that situation. They meet a lot when they
- 2:47Speaker 4: meet in addressing a lot of things. But it was
- 2:51Speaker 4: one of those ways where he can call him out
- 2:53Speaker 4: without calling him out.
- 2:54Speaker 2: It's a fact.
- 2:56Speaker 4: Dan was saying this yesterday on Nationals dot TV Please subscribe.
- 3:00Speaker 4: Uh number one. Number two is Dan was saying, like, look,
- 3:03Speaker 4: it's you know, he called them out. I'm like, he's
- 3:07Speaker 4: not calling them out. It's a fact. When they're facts,
- 3:10Speaker 4: you're not calling people out. And because calling saying you're
- 3:16Speaker 4: calling someone out seems like such a.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Negative, it's not a negative.
- 3:21Speaker 4: This is a huge positive in the growth of the organization,
- 3:23Speaker 4: but not only that, the growth of the player and so, uh, look,
- 3:27Speaker 4: things need to be addressed and they The problem I
- 3:30Speaker 4: have is this, they have busted their ass.
- 3:34Speaker 2: They have done a.
- 3:34Speaker 4: Lot more on the defensive side than we've seen the past.
- 3:37Speaker 4: They are just not executing when it comes to the game.
- 3:41Speaker 4: So you could say it's coach, you can say whatever.
- 3:43Speaker 4: I put it on the players because of this, because
- 3:45Speaker 4: we see the work that they the player is putting
- 3:47Speaker 4: in at the end of the day, when it comes
- 3:49Speaker 4: down to it during the game, they got to get
- 3:51Speaker 4: it done.
- 3:53Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's actually why I want to highlight what
- 3:55Speaker 5: Blake said very specifically, and I made sure I wrote
- 3:58Speaker 5: it down. He had said not that we're just going
- 4:02Speaker 5: to do more reps in early work. We're actually going
- 4:06Speaker 5: to do fewer reps is what he said, as a team,
- 4:08Speaker 5: and we're going to focus more on specific situations that
- 4:11Speaker 5: are more game like. And so what we saw before
- 4:14Speaker 5: the game was fielding coordinator Tyler Smarslac had a stopwatch
- 4:19Speaker 5: on him and they were calling out different situations and saying, hey,
- 4:24Speaker 5: we've got a guy who's just really fast four out
- 4:26Speaker 5: of first base, make this play in under four to zero.
- 4:29Speaker 5: Make it in under four to four if it's a
- 4:32Speaker 5: double play. Those sorts of things where you saw fewer reps,
- 4:36Speaker 5: but I think you saw more intentionality team base.
- 4:40Speaker 4: It was team based too. Pitchers are involved, you know.
- 4:44Speaker 4: I think that's a huge part. Look the Sparslock Stopwatch.
- 4:48Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen it, but he's does
- 4:49Speaker 4: that all the time before this. Yeah, he's always standing
- 4:52Speaker 4: behind the guys and let him know. Because part of
- 4:55Speaker 4: the thing for watching this over the years is that
- 4:58Speaker 4: like you just go through the motions.
- 4:59Speaker 2: You go through the motions.
- 5:01Speaker 4: It's like a four to eight guy. It's like Benji
- 5:03Speaker 4: Molina a run down line. Sorry, sorry, benj one of
- 5:05Speaker 4: my favorite teammates. I can say it though, but like
- 5:07Speaker 4: it's it's like him running down line. It's not like that.
- 5:11Speaker 4: In today's Dame. The average is like a I think
- 5:15Speaker 4: right now is like a four to two one is
- 5:17Speaker 4: like the average home to first, which is insane to
- 5:20Speaker 4: think about.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Uh you know, so uh.
- 5:25Speaker 4: Watching them take their reps like that and thinking about that,
- 5:30Speaker 4: having the time called out, it's a huge thing.
- 5:33Speaker 2: It's a big thing. It's a specific thing. But with
- 5:35Speaker 2: the older team.
- 5:36Speaker 4: You don't do it with the younger teams, and that
- 5:38Speaker 4: that's where I've always been on older teams. So seeing
- 5:42Speaker 4: this at that like, you know, youth level is kind
- 5:45Speaker 4: of interesting, but also like it it's intriguing.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Yeah, Saturday was a frustrating game, not just from a
- 5:54Speaker 1: defensive perspective, but offensive as well. To seven of your
- 5:57Speaker 1: nine leadoff base runners get on but only one run
- 6:00Speaker 1: over the course of the game, that just that's frustrating.
- 6:04Speaker 3: You know, you got to find a way to bring
- 6:06Speaker 3: those runs home.
- 6:08Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think a little bit on that. You
- 6:13Speaker 4: look at you know, Kyle Harrison was really good too.
- 6:17Speaker 4: You know, they had back to back games, I say
- 6:19Speaker 4: even three games that were the starting bidget for the
- 6:22Speaker 4: bruise was incredible. You have the electricity of Jacob Mizerowski
- 6:25Speaker 4: on on Friday night, and and you didn't have a
- 6:29Speaker 4: leadoff battery reach first until the eighth inning, you know,
- 6:33Speaker 4: and so you understand how it plays.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Then you get the next night seven and you're like, wow,
- 6:38Speaker 2: all right, this is great.
- 6:40Speaker 4: The execution on the opposite side of that, like Kyle
- 6:43Speaker 4: Harrison was really good, soft contact everywhere, got some swing
- 6:46Speaker 4: and miss, got some pop ups because of the explosive
- 6:48Speaker 4: fastball that he had, Shadows started to creep in a
- 6:51Speaker 4: little bit, you know, And I think also not offense
- 6:55Speaker 4: took the defense. I thought defense took to offense a
- 6:57Speaker 4: little bit in the mindsets, just you know, mentality wise.
- 7:02Speaker 6: That's interesting.
- 7:03Speaker 5: I frankly didn't think about it that way, but I
- 7:06Speaker 5: think you're right. The way that I have kind of
- 7:09Speaker 5: been trying to process the last few games is a
- 7:11Speaker 5: they're facing great pitchings.
- 7:12Speaker 6: Sometimes that's just what great Pitton does.
- 7:15Speaker 5: The other aspect is when I look up at the board,
- 7:18Speaker 5: and maybe this is too big picture, but you see
- 7:21Speaker 5: James and CJ with ops is over nine hundred and
- 7:23Speaker 5: everyone else's dip below seven hundred. I think the league
- 7:27Speaker 5: is starting to do not a better job, but maybe
- 7:31Speaker 5: a more specific job game planning for the rest of
- 7:34Speaker 5: that Nationals lineup. And I think what I'm looking forward
- 7:38Speaker 5: to over the next week or so against the Twins
- 7:41Speaker 5: and beyond is seeing exactly how those guys, whether it's
- 7:45Speaker 5: a Daylan or a k Bear, a Jorbit, any of
- 7:48Speaker 5: those guys, make that next adjustment. Because I think the
- 7:52Speaker 5: off day is good for rest, and I think the
- 7:53Speaker 5: first game of the series is really good for figuring
- 7:56Speaker 5: out exactly how you've been game planned against. But that
- 7:59Speaker 5: was something that just jumped out to me offensively because
- 8:02Speaker 5: we've talked so much about how positive it's been, but
- 8:04Speaker 5: I think there's been a hint of regression as of late.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely outside of that big offensive explosion in New
- 8:11Speaker 1: York the other day. The last couple of weeks, offenses
- 8:14Speaker 1: started to sputter a little bit. But it's really encouraging
- 8:16Speaker 1: to see them win the game on Sunday and see, hey,
- 8:19Speaker 1: they can win a game with just three runs when
- 8:21Speaker 1: the pitching does show up for those of you watching online,
- 8:24Speaker 1: and to pull up the pitching box score from Sunday.
- 8:27Speaker 1: PJ Puhland really settling into his own in this new
- 8:30Speaker 1: opener role, and he's very comfortable with it. This suite
- 8:34Speaker 1: from Marcu Zuckerman online. His numbers is an opener one
- 8:37Speaker 1: four to two ERA six and a third of his
- 8:40Speaker 1: innings pitch this season coming there, versus the numbers in
- 8:43Speaker 1: the bullpen not quite as hot, a four to.
- 8:45Speaker 3: Nine to one.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Franny, I'm curious, you know, it's not just the right
- 8:49Speaker 1: not just the lefties that he's getting out at the
- 8:50Speaker 1: top of the lineup.
- 8:51Speaker 3: It's also the lefties.
- 8:52Speaker 1: But is there anyone else down in the National's bullpen
- 8:55Speaker 1: right now that you could see stepping into the opener's
- 8:59Speaker 1: role if they want to. I mean, this is just
- 9:03Speaker 1: going It's working out quite well with the opener role
- 9:06Speaker 1: in pool In, but now that it may be a
- 9:08Speaker 1: situation where they want to use it not just for
- 9:10Speaker 1: Michael List, but also to tell is there anyone else
- 9:13Speaker 1: that you think could step up and do that?
- 9:16Speaker 4: I think there are and it obviously the former starters
- 9:19Speaker 4: in Brad Lord and Mitchell Parker could be then, but
- 9:21Speaker 4: I still don't see that as like maybe if they
- 9:24Speaker 4: were on a back to back or they had gone
- 9:27Speaker 4: you know, extended like Brad did on Saturday, maybe on
- 9:32Speaker 4: Tuesday he would open right like that type thing. I
- 9:36Speaker 4: think Pj's PJ is an interesting one, you know because
- 9:39Speaker 4: you you look at those numbers and you're like, why
- 9:42Speaker 4: there they're specifically trying to attack these left handed hitters
- 9:45Speaker 4: that they can you know, teams have the ability to
- 9:47Speaker 4: flip it on them and and and not have you know,
- 9:51Speaker 4: PJ face. It was supposed to be Bryce Terrang yesterday,
- 9:54Speaker 4: right Renifo or Terrang was a late scratch and became
- 9:59Speaker 4: the right e's the three right e's to face off.
- 10:02Speaker 4: But he was just to get extended through that those
- 10:05Speaker 4: those left handers.
- 10:06Speaker 2: So could I see it? Yeah?
- 10:08Speaker 4: I could see it. But I mean, if it ain't Bro,
- 10:12Speaker 4: why fix it on that one? When it comes to
- 10:14Speaker 4: the opener, now, the problem is having multiple openers during
- 10:19Speaker 4: this time, right like during you know, certain guys starts
- 10:22Speaker 4: and you know his miles back hopefully you know, what
- 10:28Speaker 4: we saw in New York was very encouraging as far
- 10:30Speaker 4: as the previous two having hit the opener. Zach was
- 10:34Speaker 4: great yesterday in his time tack everything, but he was
- 10:38Speaker 4: set up with an opener. How many times they go
- 10:40Speaker 4: through that with PJ, and you know, there's.
- 10:44Speaker 2: So much that's involved.
- 10:45Speaker 4: I think right now too, I think there's a chance
- 10:48Speaker 4: that you could see Richard Lovelady do it too.
- 10:52Speaker 2: He yeah, he could send it home. That was pretty good.
- 10:55Speaker 6: Yeah, love Lady was great the other day.
- 10:59Speaker 5: What I I guess I was thinking about more specifically
- 11:04Speaker 5: was like you brought up Mitchell for example, That's the
- 11:06Speaker 5: one where in my mind that would be an obvious
- 11:09Speaker 5: sort of opener and me his position in the bullpen
- 11:12Speaker 5: is solidified. But every time I've asked Blake about having
- 11:17Speaker 5: one or two guys in the bullpen who can throw
- 11:19Speaker 5: three innings four innings when you need it.
- 11:23Speaker 6: Just reading between the lines a little bit.
- 11:24Speaker 5: He's never committed to wanting that as a full part
- 11:28Speaker 5: of this team's identity or full party.
- 11:29Speaker 2: He doesn't want that.
- 11:31Speaker 4: No, No, no team, especially Tampa when they were doing it,
- 11:35Speaker 4: Kevin Cash never wanted it.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Did it not get them to the World Series.
- 11:43Speaker 2: But that wasn't the point.
- 11:44Speaker 4: The point was if they had the five stars that
- 11:46Speaker 4: they could, they would do that all day long. It
- 11:49Speaker 4: was just they had injuries and they did not have
- 11:52Speaker 4: the major league depth at the starting position that allowed
- 11:56Speaker 4: him to So it's like, look, they had to go there.
- 11:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:00Speaker 5: So I think honestly a lot of the moves you're
- 12:02Speaker 5: seeing right now are And maybe this is what is
- 12:06Speaker 5: important for me to parse out in May, is how
- 12:07Speaker 5: much of what they're doing right now is a necessity versus.
- 12:11Speaker 6: An integral part of their identity.
- 12:12Speaker 5: Like I think all the substitutions and pinch hitting might
- 12:17Speaker 5: be a little more of the I guess I'll say
- 12:20Speaker 5: identity just because you see smart teams platoon, you see
- 12:24Speaker 5: smart teams that are early on in their rebuilding arc
- 12:29Speaker 5: use more of those guys, and then once you have
- 12:32Speaker 5: more of a set lineup, then you get to it,
- 12:35Speaker 5: so we may see that for the course of the season,
- 12:38Speaker 5: but with gards to the bullpen and the opener, I
- 12:41Speaker 5: really think that's more of a necessity right now. I
- 12:43Speaker 5: don't know, as you can tell, I'm still parsing this
- 12:45Speaker 5: out in my mind, which is a well.
- 12:46Speaker 4: I mean, there's no team that has more played appearances
- 12:49Speaker 4: from guys over fifty than the that's right, like they Yeah,
- 12:53Speaker 4: every single guy right now has fifty plus plate appearances,
- 12:58Speaker 4: which is insane to think about.
- 12:59Speaker 2: And you're just starting may.
- 13:01Speaker 4: Like if we got twenty as a utility guy, fifteen
- 13:05Speaker 4: to twenty in that first month, you're like.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Oh, man, I'm kind of tired from all this work, rightier,
- 13:10Speaker 2: you know.
- 13:12Speaker 6: Yeah, or even like even using I don't know.
- 13:16Speaker 5: I was talking to Jose Tena the other day about
- 13:20Speaker 5: kind of his approach when he's on the bench, thinking like, oh,
- 13:25Speaker 5: I can just ask him if there's an at batter
- 13:27Speaker 5: a game that stands out where his process lined up
- 13:29Speaker 5: with the results, and he's taken so many of these
- 13:32Speaker 5: that he had to like go way back in his
- 13:34Speaker 5: mind spend a long time thinking there was a long
- 13:36Speaker 5: pot like this is not something that the Nationals did
- 13:39Speaker 5: in years past. I think psychologically it's been a lift
- 13:42Speaker 5: for a lot of the guys who didn't play a lot.
- 13:45Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't know.
- 13:46Speaker 5: We'll see how that works out in mid June or
- 13:50Speaker 5: mid July, whether guys feel more arrested, whether feel more prepared,
- 13:53Speaker 5: or whether that starts to where on guys who feel
- 13:56Speaker 5: like they should be playing more.
- 13:57Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm really curious to see how that
- 13:59Speaker 6: plays out.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Yeah, Parker is the most interesting one to me, or
- 14:02Speaker 1: the guy that I kind of look at. But at
- 14:04Speaker 1: that point it's like, oh, is it a return to
- 14:06Speaker 1: the rotation, And he's been so good out of the
- 14:09Speaker 1: bullpen this season that I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't
- 14:12Speaker 1: want to mess with the success that he's had there.
- 14:14Speaker 1: And before we take a quick break, I just want
- 14:16Speaker 1: to say I woke up Fielm like Richard Lovelady. He
- 14:18Speaker 1: had me so fired up after they came yesterday, and
- 14:21Speaker 1: his post postgame Brest conference with a les on the
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- 15:37Speaker 1: And we are back, as I was saying before the
- 15:40Speaker 1: break the Seine. Nunya is just the star of yesterday.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Take a look real quickly at this play he made
- 15:45Speaker 1: in the ninth inning. I was talking about it with
- 15:48Speaker 1: liham at Rals before. Having him at second base is
- 15:52Speaker 1: just such a gift to have an arm like that
- 15:54Speaker 1: and to be able to make a play like that. Franny,
- 15:57Speaker 1: what did you see from there in the ninth inning,
- 15:58Speaker 1: Because the composure to pull that off.
- 16:01Speaker 4: Right, it's it's uh, it's a play that we haven't
- 16:03Speaker 4: seen made in in years. And this is no shot
- 16:06Speaker 4: at Luis Garcia junior. He just wasn't making those plays,
- 16:10Speaker 4: you know, maybe like a a step on the baseline
- 16:16Speaker 4: or the base runner side, like just just outside maybe,
- 16:20Speaker 4: but that deep no chance, just his It's the smoothest
- 16:25Speaker 4: smoothness of his transfer. He had to play earlier in
- 16:28Speaker 4: the you know game going to his left and in
- 16:32Speaker 4: the four hole that he short hopped Curtis me. But
- 16:35Speaker 4: it was the only play that he could make, is
- 16:36Speaker 4: the short hop if you tried to go air, that's
- 16:38Speaker 4: where problems happened. And it was his transfer that just
- 16:42Speaker 4: makes all this happen. Like he just it's so smooth. Yeah,
- 16:47Speaker 4: look nasty, nas Is is a good nickname. It's been
- 16:51Speaker 4: the Nasty Nats for a while, so he can't really
- 16:53Speaker 4: take it as his own.
- 16:54Speaker 2: Just saying.
- 16:57Speaker 4: That's what I will say, but I'll I'll say this
- 17:01Speaker 4: as a as a fan of this, that dude can
- 17:05Speaker 4: absolutely change a game defensively man, and thank god he
- 17:09Speaker 4: did it what he did offensively yesterday, But what he
- 17:12Speaker 4: does on a night in, night out, basis or day in, whatever,
- 17:15Speaker 4: however you want to say, that whole thing.
- 17:17Speaker 2: It is a consistent player. Yes, he has made a
- 17:21Speaker 2: couple of errors.
- 17:22Speaker 4: Yes, that that that sucks for anybody, but like I
- 17:25Speaker 4: don't care. He's doing it not because of laziness or anything.
- 17:30Speaker 4: It's just some of his errors happened. How about yesterday
- 17:34Speaker 4: was extraordinary in the timing and it was not an
- 17:37Speaker 4: easy play.
- 17:38Speaker 1: How about gnarly this scene narley na see nanas we
- 17:42Speaker 1: could go with that for the nickname, that would be good.
- 17:45Speaker 1: And you mentioned Louis Garcia, he did you need to
- 17:48Speaker 1: work on your guys nickname game narlin n is a
- 17:52Speaker 1: solid nickname. Spencer. You tweeted this out yesterday. Louis Garcia
- 17:55Speaker 1: Junior did lead yesterday Yesterday Yesterday's game early with right
- 18:00Speaker 1: wrist soreness that was retroactive I think to Friday's game
- 18:05Speaker 1: or Saturday's game when he took a swing Franny You
- 18:07Speaker 1: highlighted that Spencer was curious. Did Blake speak about that
- 18:10Speaker 1: after the game? Did anyone ask about it?
- 18:13Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 18:13Speaker 5: I asked about it after the game. He mentioned that again,
- 18:16Speaker 5: it happened on a swing with Louie. It didn't hurt
- 18:20Speaker 5: when he threw over the next inning and a half
- 18:24Speaker 5: when he was in the game. If I'm doing a
- 18:26Speaker 5: math correctly, but that Louis will be getting an MRI today.
- 18:33Speaker 5: Just to walk through some of the roster machinations of this,
- 18:36Speaker 5: I know, Abba Melick or Tease is kind of the
- 18:40Speaker 5: obvious next thought in terms of who you might call up.
- 18:43Speaker 5: But he actually almost at the same exact time got
- 18:46Speaker 5: hurt in Rochester's game where he kind of cleaned himself
- 18:50Speaker 5: in the knee, had to get a bunch of stitches,
- 18:54Speaker 5: and so I don't think that that's a long term injury. Yeah,
- 18:58Speaker 5: kind of grim, but that could if theoretically, and I'm
- 19:03Speaker 5: not saying Louis will go on the I L but
- 19:05Speaker 5: in theory where that happened, I think that complicates the
- 19:08Speaker 5: National's plan a little bit more so I felt like
- 19:11Speaker 5: that was probably worth bringing up.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it should. Uh. The other part of this
- 19:16Speaker 2: is that, like I can't, has Louis ever been on the.
- 19:19Speaker 3: IL That's a really good question.
- 19:22Speaker 2: Because he has been.
- 19:23Speaker 3: He he's been on the turn, I'm not mistaken.
- 19:27Speaker 4: But yeah, why getting takeout was like he plays through
- 19:31Speaker 4: a lot of stuff and I don't think you know,
- 19:33Speaker 4: fan truly gets that part of it, Like you're when
- 19:36Speaker 4: your best availability is your best ability?
- 19:39Speaker 2: Is your availability that same all the time?
- 19:41Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 19:42Speaker 2: Right?
- 19:42Speaker 1: Is he's starting to get the bag going to It
- 19:44Speaker 1: would be a pretty bad blow to this offense if
- 19:46Speaker 1: we had to put him on the I l he's just,
- 19:49Speaker 1: you know, a leader on this team at this point.
- 19:51Speaker 1: He's the longest tenured NAT too, the only guy who's
- 19:54Speaker 1: been around since twenty twenty.
- 19:55Speaker 6: If I'm not mistaken, Yeah, he's been incredibly stable.
- 19:59Speaker 5: I Before we I guess move off of this, I
- 20:02Speaker 5: wanted to bring up one more thing going back to
- 20:04Speaker 5: that NAS play. Part of why I think it stood
- 20:08Speaker 5: out to Franny, to myself, to anyone who watches the
- 20:11Speaker 5: Nationals regularly is because it was such a good play
- 20:15Speaker 5: coming in on the ball, and that's really where the
- 20:18Speaker 5: Nationals have struggled this year. I made sure I went
- 20:20Speaker 5: to stack cast earlier today to kind of back up
- 20:22Speaker 5: the eye test. If you look at their kind of
- 20:26Speaker 5: range score, it shows you know whether they're good on
- 20:29Speaker 5: play is going to first, third back in. Brady it's
- 20:33Speaker 5: a minus three in everything else is neutral. CJ it's
- 20:36Speaker 5: a minus five in almost everything else is neutral. Louis
- 20:39Speaker 5: minus one in everything else neutral, Curtis minus two in
- 20:42Speaker 5: minus towards third, everything else neutral. And you have NOAs
- 20:46Speaker 5: who's been a positive going in. So I think that
- 20:48Speaker 5: that's a play where if I'm looking at the early
- 20:51Speaker 5: work where it's less about situational baseball, because I know
- 20:55Speaker 5: that's a big thing that Blake and all of them
- 20:56Speaker 5: have harped in on just from a purely physical state point,
- 21:00Speaker 5: I think those plays coming in, whether it's those players
- 21:04Speaker 5: are Franny, I think you can talk about this too.
- 21:05Speaker 5: Some of the struggles they've had fielding bunts this year
- 21:09Speaker 5: is something I think they probably really need to work
- 21:11Speaker 5: on moving forward.
- 21:12Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's something I've addressed for not just
- 21:16Speaker 4: the Nationals, but over the last I said about four
- 21:20Speaker 4: years ago, right, when I was getting the TV.
- 21:23Speaker 2: Part of it was why is the bunt so effective?
- 21:28Speaker 4: Because not in a lot of teams are doing it,
- 21:30Speaker 4: and not a lot of teams are practicing defending it.
- 21:33Speaker 4: And you know, certain guys on on extra trying to
- 21:36Speaker 4: make that a huge thing now like oh, I'm coming
- 21:39Speaker 4: up with this, this grand theory. It's like, no, it's
- 21:42Speaker 4: been going on for years. We've seen this. If you
- 21:44Speaker 4: don't practice it, you're gonna get exposed.
- 21:46Speaker 2: And do they practice it?
- 21:48Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 21:48Speaker 4: I just think it's all about reads for me with them.
- 21:52Speaker 4: You know, I go back to Jory Bibas in New
- 21:55Speaker 4: York on a ball coming in. It's not a bunch,
- 21:57Speaker 4: but coming in on the ball, their reads, he went
- 22:00Speaker 4: to his right before he came in.
- 22:02Speaker 2: It's a straight on you gotta go.
- 22:04Speaker 4: Brady House made an error, not on a bunt, but
- 22:06Speaker 4: on a ball that he charged that he should have
- 22:09Speaker 4: continued to go and stay through on Saturday right. If
- 22:13Speaker 4: he does that, he makes the play. It's just reading
- 22:16Speaker 4: and trusting your reads and bunts they're not trusting the
- 22:19Speaker 4: reeds they're laid on it. The pictures have done I
- 22:21Speaker 4: think a fantastic job of defending the bunt this year,
- 22:24Speaker 4: which has been a problem in the past. Mitchell Parker
- 22:27Speaker 4: has done a great job adjusting it. But Pebus got
- 22:30Speaker 4: beat yesterday when he shouldn't have. Like, but Randon Locker
- 22:35Speaker 4: is gonna be he flies, so he's gonna bunt. He bunts,
- 22:38Speaker 4: he gets one down and he like almost goes from
- 22:40Speaker 4: a standstill like when.
- 22:41Speaker 2: He picks it up.
- 22:42Speaker 4: They're just just there's mechanisms of the mechanics of it. Mentally,
- 22:47Speaker 4: I think are off right.
- 22:48Speaker 6: Now, Uh huh, how long does that take to teach?
- 22:54Speaker 4: I just think it's reps and I really think it's anticipation.
- 22:59Speaker 4: A lot of it is anticipation, right, Like, if you're
- 23:02Speaker 4: anticipating it, you're gonna get it. I truly believe if
- 23:06Speaker 4: you're not, you're always put yourself.
- 23:08Speaker 2: In a bad spot.
- 23:10Speaker 4: But if you anticipate that play and you anticipate a
- 23:13Speaker 4: guy come or a guy bunning more, I would say
- 23:16Speaker 4: ninety nine percent of the time, you're gonna make play interesting.
- 23:19Speaker 5: Okay, And that's interesting too, because I was looking this
- 23:22Speaker 5: up as well. The Nationals have been bunted against more
- 23:25Speaker 5: than any other team in baseball, and they've a lot
- 23:27Speaker 5: more bun hits than anyone else in baseball. So I
- 23:29Speaker 5: have to imagine, you know, not only are they emphasizing
- 23:32Speaker 5: before the game, but if you know what's happening all
- 23:33Speaker 5: the time to you, especially with a guy like Mitchell
- 23:37Speaker 5: or Foster for example, is on the mound, some of
- 23:40Speaker 5: those lefties. Yeah, that's really compelling to me to know
- 23:44Speaker 5: that I would pay attention.
- 23:46Speaker 4: To watching like Brady and BBus and they settle. They
- 23:49Speaker 4: settle real early, right, So like when they get set
- 23:52Speaker 4: which is not a this is not a negative actually
- 23:56Speaker 4: because they're.
- 23:56Speaker 2: They're in it.
- 23:57Speaker 4: They're locked, but they're not on their toes to go
- 23:59Speaker 4: get right away. And I think that's that's something mechanically
- 24:03Speaker 4: they can work on. But that's just again, that's not
- 24:05Speaker 4: something that I'm going to say to him because I'm
- 24:07Speaker 4: not a coach. And you know what this is coming
- 24:10Speaker 4: from a guy that played a ton of games at
- 24:12Speaker 4: third base in the big leagues and who was bunnet on. Well,
- 24:15Speaker 4: I was just going to actually who actually fielded a
- 24:18Speaker 4: bun against each row and threw him out?
- 24:20Speaker 3: What what.
- 24:22Speaker 1: Nationals fans had come to expect from third base over
- 24:26Speaker 1: the years. You talk about Brian Zimerman and Anthony Rendon,
- 24:28Speaker 1: Kevin Franzen just spectacularly defensive. Those guys coming but yeah,
- 24:34Speaker 1: they we've been spoiled for years over at the hot ture.
- 24:39Speaker 1: I think that's the one thing that like Tone was
- 24:42Speaker 1: like he was so good at coming in. But then
- 24:44Speaker 1: Zim was as good as anybody in the game coming
- 24:48Speaker 1: in on a ball because he didn't think about the
- 24:49Speaker 1: throw and all that stuff.
- 24:50Speaker 4: He just he just did it. He was so good
- 24:53Speaker 4: early on. I remember we were in Double A and
- 24:55Speaker 4: he was in Harrisburg. We were at They're playing in Norwich,
- 24:58Speaker 4: and I would try to bun on him, thinking like.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Ah, got this young kid just out of the draft.
- 25:05Speaker 4: I think he beat it by I think he beat
- 25:08Speaker 4: me by five steps and like turn back afterwards like
- 25:12Speaker 4: that was a legit bunt, dude, But that was him.
- 25:16Speaker 4: So anyway, Yeah, no, if there's an ability to it's right.
- 25:18Speaker 4: You gotta have confidence. And I think right now we're
- 25:21Speaker 4: saying from Brady is a lack of confidence over there
- 25:23Speaker 4: at third And I hate it because I'm like everybody
- 25:27Speaker 4: around you're gonna say the same thing.
- 25:28Speaker 2: You love Brady House.
- 25:31Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and well even I'm trying to think if
- 25:34Speaker 5: it was a year ago or two years ago. I
- 25:35Speaker 5: went down to Rochester I guess it would be two
- 25:37Speaker 5: years ago at this point and talked to Matt Lee
- 25:40Speaker 5: Croy about Brady, expecting, oh, you know, he needs to
- 25:44Speaker 5: work on his swing decisions whatever he said. And I
- 25:47Speaker 5: think this may have been a bit hyperbolic, but he
- 25:49Speaker 5: said that guy can be Ryan Zimmerman at third base.
- 25:52Speaker 5: That is not a player we've seen right now at
- 25:55Speaker 5: third base. But I think instilling that sort of confidence
- 25:58Speaker 5: in Brady knowing that the athlete is in there when
- 26:01Speaker 5: he's locked in mentally being able to get there. So
- 26:06Speaker 5: I don't think it's a question of oh can this
- 26:07Speaker 5: guy stick at third? It's how long does it take
- 26:10Speaker 5: him to really figure it out at third? And that's
- 26:12Speaker 5: something Blake's talked about a lot too. Is you know,
- 26:14Speaker 5: Brady played shortstop his entire amateur career. Eventually the Nats
- 26:18Speaker 5: moved him over to third base once he got in
- 26:20Speaker 5: the system, and it's been a lot of up and
- 26:23Speaker 5: downs since he's gotten there. It's not an easy position
- 26:26Speaker 5: to learn, as for any he can speak to as well.
- 26:28Speaker 5: So I think that's something where I want to give
- 26:30Speaker 5: him a little bit of grace.
- 26:33Speaker 6: But it's definitely not there yet.
- 26:35Speaker 4: I think he he's a third baseman, like the short
- 26:38Speaker 4: stop stuff is a while ago, right, Like he's a
- 26:41Speaker 4: he's a grown man now, and I think at some
- 26:43Speaker 4: point you just gotta start making place.
- 26:46Speaker 2: Right.
- 26:48Speaker 5: The question is if it happens now or if it happens,
- 26:51Speaker 5: you know, three months from now, and where how quickly
- 26:54Speaker 5: he's able to flip that script, and whether that happens
- 26:56Speaker 5: at Washington or you know, whether there needs to be
- 26:59Speaker 5: more early game work weather eventually.
- 27:02Speaker 6: I don't know if the team would ever decide to.
- 27:04Speaker 5: Send him down to Rochester, but that's also a place
- 27:06Speaker 5: to work on it potentially.
- 27:08Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 27:09Speaker 5: These are just kind of all the things that are
- 27:10Speaker 5: are rumbling through my mind as I think of what
- 27:13Speaker 5: the next step for Brady could be.
- 27:16Speaker 1: Real quickly before we preview the Twins series coming before
- 27:20Speaker 1: they get into town. I do want to talk about
- 27:22Speaker 1: Saturday's Foster Griffin outing Fosterfest. That's the nickname I'm giving
- 27:26Speaker 1: him for whenever he takes the mound. He was quite
- 27:29Speaker 1: good again, three hits allowed against the Birds team that
- 27:32Speaker 1: has won the National League Central three years in a row.
- 27:35Speaker 1: You take a look at his game log. He was
- 27:36Speaker 1: pretty good there back in April as well when they
- 27:39Speaker 1: completed the suite. He has just been very sharp this season. Franny,
- 27:44Speaker 1: is it fair to ask is he like an All
- 27:48Speaker 1: Star representative for the Nationals right now?
- 27:53Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 27:56Speaker 4: I don't think it's still may because I still think
- 27:58Speaker 4: you got well, it's and and you have James and CJ.
- 28:01Speaker 4: So I mean that's that's a huge factor in this. Uh,
- 28:04Speaker 4: you know, pitching wise, that could always help.
- 28:09Speaker 3: He's so.
- 28:11Speaker 1: And I don't want to be in staff, but he
- 28:13Speaker 1: is fourth in the National League and e r a.
- 28:16Speaker 4: Game well there and so okay, I get that whole thing.
- 28:20Speaker 4: And what I loved about Sunday was my favorite or Saturday.
- 28:24Speaker 4: It was my favorite game that he's pitched all year
- 28:26Speaker 4: because he didn't have anything. He did not have his
- 28:30Speaker 4: I would say, see stuff for me watching him and
- 28:33Speaker 4: how how crisp he is normally.
- 28:36Speaker 2: I thought it was.
- 28:38Speaker 4: It was an okay stuff game for him, and he
- 28:41Speaker 4: grinded away. It was nothing but soft contact. It was
- 28:44Speaker 4: finding way he like he just thought himself, you know
- 28:47Speaker 4: through that that whole thing. I do think that you know,
- 28:53Speaker 4: this is not a not but I I look at
- 28:56Speaker 4: expected stats a lot, and with pitchers it's it's not
- 29:01Speaker 4: even so much the expected stats on on you know,
- 29:04Speaker 4: like the expected batting average just in an overall or
- 29:06Speaker 4: expected slug. I look at him specifically on his pitches, right,
- 29:11Speaker 4: and every pitch you look at, only the cutter has
- 29:15Speaker 4: an expected lower batting average. Everything else is higher.
- 29:19Speaker 6: Yeah, in particular, which has gotten relatively hard.
- 29:23Speaker 5: Yeah, force team has been has been a problem.
- 29:26Speaker 4: Right, So then you look at one, a pitch that
- 29:29Speaker 4: he has gotten away with right now is the curveball. Right,
- 29:31Speaker 4: it's batting average against his one eighteen two seventy expected
- 29:35Speaker 4: two ninety four slug, five thirty nine slug. Like that's
- 29:39Speaker 4: a that's something that is there. The cutter, cutter is
- 29:42Speaker 4: a cutter. Cutter's gonna be good. He didn't have a
- 29:44Speaker 4: great cutter the other day, and yet he only ended
- 29:47Speaker 4: up with three. I think the one thing that's gonna
- 29:49Speaker 4: make that that's very interesting to look at with him
- 29:51Speaker 4: is the two games that he didn't really get any
- 29:54Speaker 4: whiff on anything.
- 29:55Speaker 2: We're against two.
- 29:57Speaker 4: Milwaukee Brewers, and it's it's it's it's crazy to watch
- 30:00Speaker 4: how you know, he navigates to do lineups like that,
- 30:03Speaker 4: but he got six I think in his first start
- 30:07Speaker 4: and then too the last time.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Interesting, that's just Brewer baseball too. Like we're talking about
- 30:13Speaker 1: it Friday's episode going into it. But this whole series
- 30:16Speaker 1: I'm watching the TV, I'm like, man, this screw those Birds.
- 30:20Speaker 1: They play such good baseball. I mean, they're just they do.
- 30:23Speaker 1: They are good. It don't beat your damn And the
- 30:25Speaker 1: Nats took four of six from this season. Say that's
- 30:28Speaker 1: something to hang their cap on. Take a look at
- 30:31Speaker 1: the NLS standings really quickly. Here the Nationals sit third
- 30:34Speaker 1: at sixteen and nineteen. The Twins coming to town are
- 30:37Speaker 1: playing pretty similar baseball fifteen and twenty. Taj Bradley is
- 30:41Speaker 1: their probable starter for Tuesday's game. Cade Cavali back on
- 30:45Speaker 1: the bump for the Nationals Tuesday night. Assume both of
- 30:48Speaker 1: you guys will be over there at the ballpark.
- 30:50Speaker 3: I will not.
- 30:51Speaker 1: But what are you looking for the Nats to continue
- 30:54Speaker 1: to do well and improve on in this series? Franny again,
- 31:00Speaker 1: you you have to look at, you know, catching the
- 31:02Speaker 1: baseball against a team like this, and they'll make you.
- 31:05Speaker 4: They'll make you pay because of the homer. You know,
- 31:07Speaker 4: different than than the Brewers. It's not about the homer.
- 31:09Speaker 4: How about the first series three game series for the
- 31:12Speaker 4: NAT since what twenty ten? No homers were hit by
- 31:15Speaker 4: both teams. Crazy to think about that almost sixteen years.
- 31:21Speaker 4: But you're looking at a team that has Byron Buxton, right,
- 31:23Speaker 4: who's been hot, Austin Martin's been playing really well, Brooks
- 31:27Speaker 4: Lee is starting to get going. Their a team that
- 31:30Speaker 4: is like if you if you rest on them, they're
- 31:32Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna hammer you. And I give them that
- 31:35Speaker 4: free pass, they're gonna hammer you. So you got to,
- 31:38Speaker 4: you know, you button up offense like this is on
- 31:41Speaker 4: the pitching side because I think offensively outside Todd Bradley,
- 31:45Speaker 4: you know, Joe Ryan went down yesterday. We don't know
- 31:48Speaker 4: if he's gonna be on the IL or anything. But
- 31:50Speaker 4: you look at this team off you know, the bullpen's
- 31:53Speaker 4: not great. Bullpen's not great. It's doable, right, Like it's
- 31:56Speaker 4: you can get in there and get after him. So
- 32:00Speaker 4: if they can hold the Twins offense down, they'll have
- 32:04Speaker 4: a really good chance.
- 32:06Speaker 6: That's a great take.
- 32:06Speaker 5: I actually want to shout out Jake Mints for a
- 32:09Speaker 5: second here because we had this conversation the other day
- 32:11Speaker 5: about how many you know, league wide anonymous names are
- 32:15Speaker 5: in the Nationals bullpen. He said, look at the Twins bullpen,
- 32:18Speaker 5: and I asked him to start, like, give me some
- 32:19Speaker 5: initials of some of those guys. I didn't know a
- 32:21Speaker 5: single guy in that bullpen.
- 32:23Speaker 6: That's on me.
- 32:24Speaker 4: You know two, you know, actually three easy, sure, but
- 32:29Speaker 4: I think Taylor Rogers and Luis Garcia.
- 32:34Speaker 5: Yes, But I think when you look at that bullpen,
- 32:38Speaker 5: it's so many guys that you just don't know what
- 32:43Speaker 5: they are, what they could be, in the same way
- 32:44Speaker 5: that I think a lot of people looks in the Nats bullpen.
- 32:47Speaker 5: And so for me, yeah, it's it's the exact same thing.
- 32:49Speaker 5: If you can hold for five innings where you keep
- 32:53Speaker 5: it a two even three run game, and you get
- 32:57Speaker 5: some of those you know, secondary may be rude to
- 33:00Speaker 5: say it, but the non James, non cj guys in
- 33:03Speaker 5: the lineup to show up against that bull then that's
- 33:05Speaker 5: kind of where I'm keeping an eye on.
- 33:09Speaker 1: Yeah, it's to me, it's just pretty evenly matched up
- 33:12Speaker 1: teams here with the team that has been surpassing a
- 33:16Speaker 1: lot of people's expectations for the first month or so
- 33:19Speaker 1: of the season here and my expectations would be, Hey,
- 33:23Speaker 1: there's I mean, other than the fact that the home
- 33:26Speaker 1: record has not been incredible, but there's reason to think
- 33:29Speaker 1: that they could take two out of three or even
- 33:30Speaker 1: sweep the Twins here. But I'm wondering, you know what
- 33:34Speaker 1: would define success for you guys here?
- 33:37Speaker 2: Win series?
- 33:39Speaker 1: When the series take They're not one day at a time.
- 33:41Speaker 4: They're not in a place. Yeah, no, they're not in
- 33:43Speaker 4: a place in my mind that sweeps are the goal,
- 33:47Speaker 4: like the their goal needs to be consistently winning series
- 33:51Speaker 4: and then go from there.
- 33:53Speaker 6: Yeah, I would. I would say the same thing.
- 33:56Speaker 1: It sounds like I had Wednesday, Do we have probable
- 33:59Speaker 1: starts out Miles, michaelist and Bailey over, Does anyone have Thursday?
- 34:03Speaker 1: We will be looking at Jake Urban and Woods Richardson.
- 34:08Speaker 1: So Wednesday morning we'll be recapping Tuesday's game for you.
- 34:11Speaker 1: But guys, you got anything to add before we take
- 34:13Speaker 1: off here?
- 34:15Speaker 6: That's all I got.
- 34:17Speaker 4: One thing I will say is that, like the stuff
- 34:19Speaker 4: that we addressed at the beginning with Blake, this guy's
- 34:23Speaker 4: got a backbone and I love it, and I think
- 34:27Speaker 4: he's got some fight and he doesn't need to say
- 34:29Speaker 4: he's cool calm, collected. I don't know what your interactions
- 34:32Speaker 4: have been yet with him, Spencer, but I'm thoroughly impressed
- 34:36Speaker 4: about not avoiding problems.
- 34:40Speaker 5: Yeah, and I will say this, coming into spring training,
- 34:45Speaker 5: the thing that Paul Tabone said over and over and
- 34:47Speaker 5: over about this coaching staff was what they are young.
- 34:50Speaker 5: You are going to forget they are young pretty early
- 34:53Speaker 5: on in the season. I forget that Blake is thirty
- 34:55Speaker 5: three all the time, which is not something I would
- 34:58Speaker 5: have said in spring training. So, yeah, he is managing
- 35:01Speaker 5: that big league ball club, not as if he's a
- 35:04Speaker 5: vet manager, but as if age does not matter. And
- 35:08Speaker 5: I think that that's something that we should absolutely highlight
- 35:11Speaker 5: coming out of the first month. So yeah, that's a
- 35:13Speaker 5: that's a great point to bring up.
- 35:15Speaker 1: Good call, definitely. Well, we will see you again on
- 35:18Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. Thank you so much for listening, and we'll
- 35:21Speaker 1: see in the next edition. Until then, see you later.
- 35:24Speaker 1: I may see you later.