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213:DOOM The Dark Ages first impressions! · WASD and Beyond

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So anyways, I want to get straight to the point. 9:00 on a
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Saturday it is. Around on Friday it is.
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I want to get straight to the point with it.
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Evan myself that have immersed ourselves into Doom.
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So Doom the Dark Ages released. We got to play it on Monday.
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I was a little bit late to the party.
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Just a little bit. Pissed me the fuck off.
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So, you know, there was a bit of an issue that the It's Soft team
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had at launch basically on Steam.
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And if you were a premium edition owner on Steam or
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Collector's edition owner rather, you did not get in right
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away, which sucked. It was annoying, but one of
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those things where it's like, OK, I'll just kind of wait my
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turn. And by wait my turn, I mean
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refresh Steam every 5 minutes until it said unpacking files.
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But the the wait was worth it. This game, from the moment I
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picked it up to right before we started recording, because right
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after this we are going to go right back to playing Doom.
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These are our initial thoughts. This is not a review.
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This is our these are our initial thoughts of the game.
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We are not. I'm not even halfway through the
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game. Yeah, No, you're not.
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No, no. You're right there though.
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You're you're, you're like 49% like you're.
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Still, it feels like there's so much to do.
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There is there's. I mean, without spoiling
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anything, there are still certain weapons and abilities we
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have not gotten access to yet halfway through, which is, I
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mean, you know, not insane like other games obviously do the
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same pacing and whatnot. But I get what you're saying.
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Like there is a lot. There's a lot to it and it feels
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like it feels like a lot, but it's just the right amount.
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It's it's not too much where it's kind of overwhelming and
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you're like, Oh my God, I have all this stuff to do.
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But it is also like the tools are, you know, the tools in the
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path is laid out for you. You know, we've made this is not
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as easy as can be, is probably not the right phrasing, but
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we've made this pretty accessible for most people to do
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some exploring, have fun with the combat like and also
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explore. Like when I say explore, I mean
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the maps are quite big. I feel even the more linear ones
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have a lot of stuff to them. So every map I've played has
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some oomph to it. It has.
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When I play this, I feel like I'm playing Doom 1 all over
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again. When an enemy throws A
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projectile at you in Doom One, it's strafe and this is strafing
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and then getting right up front. I feel like I'm playing a pretty
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Doom one with a shield. This game is awesome for its
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maps, it's awesome for its movement system, it's awesome
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for the combat. It's all for the shield.
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Like I love 2016 for its pure brutality.
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I love Eternal for its speed, its ingenuity and like map
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sense. It's like that's a game where
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you can just play and you can practice your map sense on.
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You can practice your headshot. There's so many things that if
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you play Doom Eternal well and you learn from it, you will be a
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better FPS player. I feel like it's a conditioning
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game. This game, however, is one of
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those. You're up close, you're
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fighting. And by that I mean what I've
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noticed is you are punished. I.
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Was going to say this. You didn't.
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Yeah. You're punished very much for
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fighting back and I know some people.
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If you try to take AI was just to say, yeah, if you take a
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ranged the position you are going to have a tougher time
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than if you were just actually right in the thick of it.
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And using the things they've designed the the Perry system,
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the melee system, the shield charge, like all of that is
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designed for you to use it as combos to to As for one another,
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you know, whatever way you see fit and whatever works for you
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in the moment. See, I agree you are punished.
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And I realized that with the cyber demon where I was like,
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oh, I can't I can't hold my shield up forever because it
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will break it. So and that's what the fully
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leveled out, you know, leveled up shield to where it actually
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lasts longer and. I'm.
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Sorry, I'm just so happy talking.
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No, you're, you're yeah, No, this is a lot of fun.
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Like just before we started recording, I was playing and
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fighting a cyber cyber demon. And I just remembered.
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Yeah, learning about that the first time or second time I
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fought one where I was like, yeah, no, don't stay back
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because that'll break your shield.
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Just walk right up there and just stand in front of him.
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And every time he swings at you, every time he tries to stop, you
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just parry and you just kind of repeat that and, you know, kill
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him. It's it's really fun.
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It's great, man. And like I see a lot of people
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complaining about, well, this isn't Doom, it is Doom.
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It's very much so Doom. This is a very.
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Doom. It is Doom.
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This is a very doom thing to do. Every doom name has iterated
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upon itself. It's different.
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One and two were mostly the same, right?
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But two to three a whole. Different part. 3 to 16
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different ballpark 16 to eternal very different right and then
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eternal to this is it's just again, it's doom doing doom
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things. Yes, it's not as fast, but it's
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still fast. It's not slow.
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This is unless you have your shit cranked down to 0.
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This is not a slow game. I I don't and it's not.
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I'm going to stamp this out right now, right?
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It's not woke. I don't know who's saying that.
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I'm seeing it online like you know.
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It's like that weird breast fetish, breast milk fetish.
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Fuck rums. I'm going to punch him in his
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stupid head. He's a Dick.
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The guy sucks. He's a fucking weirdo who got
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kicked out of the industry. He's not completing his game,
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grums. He's rug pulled.
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From people. Good.
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Fuck him, idiot. Hey, you know, do what you got
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to do. I mean, fuck that guy.
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I've I've seen, I've seen some of the things he tweets.
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I haven't seen anything about dark ages and I don't really
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care because I don't follow Conda.
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OK, well, I I get enough from that.
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That's it. That's usually enough.
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What I will say is that and to stamp out that whole.
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Thing ad ad revenue. Yeah, there you go.
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I will say to stamp out particularly the speed issue
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that a lot of people have been bringing up is that it's just,
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it's, it's not as fast as eternal.
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It's not. I don't know if it's as fast or
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faster than 16. I haven't played sixteen since
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probably 2016. Yeah.
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But what I do find is that it is fast if you know what to do.
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So if you understand how far the shield charge can go, if you
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understand that you can Sprint while shooting, that you can hit
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E and you dive maybe what, 1015 feet forward to get that melee
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hit. And then you can shield charge
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halfway across the the playing area.
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And then you can, you know, for the far off enemies, you can
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just throw the shield and it'll cut them in half.
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While switching to a shotgun and shooting or the chain or like
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the nail gun or anything like that, like, yeah.
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It's endless possibilities. Yeah.
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It, it, it I was feeling that last night and just before we
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started where I was like, oh, this is just giving.
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And I think as the devs described, you're giving me more
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freedom. Like, I feel bad ass.
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I am like, you know, there's a bunch of fodder demons to my
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right. I just tossed the shield that
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way. And it hits somebody or it hits
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one of them with an energy shield.
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So it starts pinging off the others.
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And I just see the little hip marker showing up in the middle.
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And I turn to my left and I put a nail gun through like a
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different demon, you know, or whatever.
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And it pins him to the wall. And then the shield comes back
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and I charge at someone. It's just that's Doom.
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It's just not exactly. It's very fluid and and like to
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just whoever's complaining about it and like saying it's not
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Doom, it's like it is. It's just, I'm sorry, you wanted
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to pay $70.00 for another shooter where you're another
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Doom game where you just run around at a super fast raw speed
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and just shoot things. That's another.
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You want the same thing. I appreciate that they said, you
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know what? We made something cool with 16.
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We made something cool with eternal.
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We're going to do something cool with dark ages and that means
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changing it up and that and and our philosophy was to or in
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their philosophy was to slow it down.
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And it's like again, it's slowed down but not slow.
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It's not slow by any normal standard of game.
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No, yeah, I yes, I agree like 100%.
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I don't, I don't understand how anybody could think they could
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play this game and like get used to the controls and kind of get
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into a flow state with it and think that it's a slow game.
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Like it's not. And it just, like I said, gives
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you more freedom. And my biggest critique, and I
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think if we talked about this before, when if we give our
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thoughts on Dark Ages before on the show, I probably had
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mentioned something about the glory kills.
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I am upset in a way that there are no animations for every
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single melee kill. But I understand why they took
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it out. And I feel that this new system
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they've created is pretty good where I think that you can still
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trigger them. Like I actually showed our good
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buddy Logan a while ago earlier today where I did an animation
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on like an enemy that you could hit E on to do like one of the
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the actual kills with. And I jumped up and cut him down
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the middle with the saw. And I was like, oh, that's
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awesome. Like that looks that looks sick
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as hell. And Logan had mentioned he had
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not gotten that before. And I was like, you know, the
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way to get these animations to jump and then hit E or whatever.
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And like, so you can still get them.
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It's just that they're not going to be after every single kill
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because they can get repetitive and they're not going to spend
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for that much time creating that many different animations
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considering how many people you're going to have to, you
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know, how many demons you're fighting across the course of
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the game. You know, could you imagine like
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having that many animations That's insane.
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Like you're going to, you're going to get bored of it, you're
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going to get tired and all that. But so like, yeah, I was
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apprehensive about that at first, but I'm actually very
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pleased and stand corrected on, on whatever my feelings were
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then. I'm very happy with this new
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system and they they absolutely did a great job.
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Yeah, I like what we're doing in this.
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I like how visceral. I like how up close and personal
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everything feels with all the enemies.
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The fists obviously are a great weapon, but then you get a
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melee. Get a Mace.
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Are you? Yeah, not what fists are your
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melee, but you could also get a Mace.
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That's awesome. I have not gotten the other one
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yet that you can get in the game.
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Either have I? So like. 112 too so.
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Fuck work. Crush me.
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So again, we are we are. This is this is our initial
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thoughts though, right? Like everything is running
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butter buttery smooth. This game for me is staying
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usually above 180 to 200 frames. That's crazy.
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It's wild to play this game like that.
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It is very crazy. It looks very pretty.
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This game looks pretty. It feels feels awesome to play
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again. I feel like I'm I'm like back in
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the day playing like the original doom, but like it looks
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like this, but that it's it's just awesome, man, looking
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awesome. I love this.
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I like the story I see. I've seen a lot of people
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bitching about the story. I don't.
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So two things. I'll agree with the performance
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thing. I'm getting far less performance
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than you. I'm getting probably.
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I don't know what your settings are all at or what your upscaler
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is. Do you have it on DLAA?
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No. OK, so I have mine on DLA and
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I'm averaging around 110 FPSI don't know what quality is at
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for me as I can average. I'd have to check, but yeah, I
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agree. Yeah, and I would like to add
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like DLAA is using the NVIDIA AI cores on the graphics card to
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render a fire version of anti aliasing.
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So essentially rendering the game at 100% instead of
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upscaling it or like, you know, putting it like quality.
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How do I like that? I think for the 40 series it
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works quite well. I don't know how the 50 series
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is treating it because they have a different like I guess it
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probably handle handles DLA a better on a just pure
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performance basis because it has more AI cores and they're
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they're new. So I think that probably works
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really well. But when you combine it with the
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new frame Gen. that the 50s cards have and how those have
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had some issues and like some weird, you know, ghosting and
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graphical errors and glitches, artifacting, things like that.
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Yeah, like I think that could hamper the experience.
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Whereas with mine with a 40 series card, you can have the 2X
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frame Gen. on. So just renders the one frame
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ahead so you get a good FPS boost along with the DLAA and
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quality balanced and all that sort of stuff.
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And I, I particularly prefer that I have everything on Ultra
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Nightmare, which is the highest setting for like the, you know,
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your terrain, your lighting, all that.
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So everything maxed out there and then I have DLA on and frame
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Gen. on and I'm at 1440P averaging around I would say
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between 100 to 120, which is more than more than doable.
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It looks great. It it yeah, runs like a dream,
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which I'm always happy about and I always expect from ID and Doom
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games. Like if there's one thing I
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know, it's that Wolfenstein and Doom games will probably run
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great until the end of time. Like genuinely, the story is a
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lot of fun and I appreciate that they took more time into making
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this a story than the previous games where it was kind of like
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it. I'm not diminishing it here in
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any way, but like, you know, they're like, like popcorn
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movies, like superhero movies or Transformers movies, right?
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Like the dialogue and the conversations are there just to
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get you to the next big scene. Yeah.
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Yeah. And and that's how Doom Eternal
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felt sometimes to me, where I wasn't really getting a whole
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lot of great. Like, I'm not great, but like, I
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just wasn't into the story or wasn't holding my interest
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through the cutscenes. And I was just kind of going to
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the next spot and having a lot of fun and then, you know, going
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back and so on. Whereas with this, I'm actually
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a little more invested in it. I like the, I think that fits
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with the Dark Ages theme of it. You're seeing a bit more of a
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struggle between I'm using air quotes here, good and evil.
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I mean, evil's pretty obvious in this instance, right?
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But like I'm not going to say that the Sentinels are that
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holding is like a 100%. The makers are like a great
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totally, you know, good faction either, but.
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He goes. He's something.
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Yeah. He's he's, yeah.
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He's a he's a character like me at work the other day.
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When I was eating that fucking burrito bowl, I was just all
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slayed out on the chair. I was like.
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Yeah, you kind of had a headache, kind of had a moment
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there, had a headache. You did that.
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Tylenol helped act. Like a crackhead after that.
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You did. You did a lot, but the story's
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really good. And yeah, I think that I'm
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trying to find a way to not segue, but I, I like that they
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like particularly pointed out the fact that they were taking
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more time on the story and like wanting to give it a bit more
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drama and heft and things like that.
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And I think they've done a pretty good job of that.
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But I think it is also something where like the the gameplay is
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not going to match, however serious.
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You're going to try and make this at some point because it's
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like it can get pretty serious. But like, at the end of the day,
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it's not like pissed off. Guy because you killed his
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buddy. Yeah, yeah.
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It's just a guy who's mad. It's like, you know, it can get
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dramatic, it can get serious, of course, you know, like a John
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Wickman. But at the end of the day, like
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we have 4, we got essentially like 8 hours of a guy just
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killing people because somebody killed his dog.
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Like, and with Doom, it's the same thing.
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It's like this is a 30 hour, 40 hour story probably and it's all
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because he's pissed like. It's just mad.
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More motives. I do like that though.
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Yeah, but that's what I, that's what I, yeah, to add to that
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right, is that it's, it's giving us bread crumbs and like teasing
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things that fall into place. I think I want to know too much
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though. I like the mythos behind Doom
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guy because this is Doom guy Doomslayer from the original
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game. Pretty.
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Cool pre 2016 as well. That's what I'm saying.
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This he, this is Doom. No.
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So yeah, it's the original Doom guy, but what I'm also adding is
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just that it's this is a prequel to that game.
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So like we're seeing before we wake up in 2016 in the
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sarcophagus or whatever. Well, we're we're also seeing
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what happens to him at the end of the the first trilogy, so.
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Doom through doom. Doom 64?
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I guess so, and I could be wrong, could just be Doom 1:00
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and 2:00, but I think it would be Doom 64 as well.
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Did you see the concept art for what the Dark Ages armor was
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going to be? Or possibly this was a.
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Leak. I did not see it, no.
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And I'm. Sure it'll be in the art book if
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if this is real. Before I saw one of him wearing
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the original Doom guy armor that was a bit more beefed up with
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like the spikes and stuff and then the Cape.
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Sure, OK with like. With like the newer helmet, but
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like also you could switch to the old helmet.
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I just love that it's he. It's still him.
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There's something about that cause with Doom 3 you're just
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the Marine. You're not him.
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You're just a Marine. Yeah.
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And which is cool, I like Doom 3.
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I know a lot of people don't like that fucking game, but I
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like that. I was too young.
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I was too young when it came out.
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And I'm not a big into very hard to go.
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I'm not I'm I'm not big into scary games.
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So like the first time I walked around and something made a
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noise and it was dark. I basically turned it off.
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I was like, come down. Which is the 1st 20 minutes of
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that game 'cause like you're like what the fuck?
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I've never said I'm brave on this show, so.
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Play the Dead Space. Love Dead Space I.
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Particularly really enjoyed Dead Space, but I think that's also
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because I can put up with the scares a bit more in that I'm
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really drawn into the atmosphere, right?
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Like the that's part of the. Thing about it.
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A Dead Space remake was dead. Space Remake was pretty fucking
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brutal about how scary it wanted to be.
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There was that one scene, I think you were watching me play,
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where I, one of those the big tail guys burst through one of
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the windows and it was locked down and I literally screamed.
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I was like. Particularly gnarly too.
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And I was like, God damn dude. They like didn't hold back their
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punches with it. But oh man, Dark Ages is just
22:33
from the moment I picked it up and I got the collector's
22:37
edition. I posted it on our TikTok.
22:39
You could see, my dude, you can see them, right?
22:44
Right there for the YouTube right there.
22:47
Right there for the YouTube audience with all my other Doom
22:49
stuff that I have just everywhere.
22:53
I love. I love this franchise.
22:54
I love this game. I think this is a great addition
22:57
in the Doom story. The shield I I almost couldn't
23:02
imagine playing Doom without the shield.
23:03
Now I love this addition to the game.
23:06
I love it so much and not only that, I love the secret hunting
23:11
in these maps. These maps are big enough.
23:14
Sorry, these maps are just big enough for me to go.
23:16
These are big maps, but they're not big enough for me to go.
23:21
These are these are too big of maps.
23:23
It's like it gets right to that threshold.
23:24
I'm like, this is perfect. That's fine.
23:27
This is great, like big scale battles and like secret hunt
23:31
throughout the entire map. And like then you're in an
23:33
Atlan. You're you're you're flying your
23:35
dragon, which isn't a spoiler because you've seen it right.
23:37
But like those missions are fun if they even if they're very
23:42
simplistic missions, especially the Atlin.
23:47
The Atlin is very just like slugfest, just hit space.
23:51
Where you get space. But they are still fun.
23:55
Power fantasy is there. The dragon is one of those
23:57
things where it's like I liked whipping around in the city.
24:02
Yeah, yeah, I did too. That was really cool.
24:04
But then you get to like the disarmament of things.
24:06
You're like, oh, left, right up. It's very obvious patterns,
24:11
which is fine, but like you could make that difficult if
24:14
you. Want but I think that's always
24:15
that's always been doomed too, right.
24:17
Like it it's not it's not a complicated game.
24:20
You're not here to do puzzles and the in the sense of like 1/2
24:23
they're pretty cool. There are there are, but it's
24:25
not like a half life physics puzzle or it's not like
24:28
something that's or a portal right yeah, it's not something
24:31
where you're really using your brain too much on it.
24:33
It's more of just like there's red, green and blue wires, I
24:37
need to connect them and I have access to red, and then red gets
24:40
me access to green and green gets me access to blue, and then
24:43
I'm done. You know, it's very simple,
24:44
walks you through it. And it's not like, I don't mean
24:46
to say it dumbs it down for you, but like, it's not a
24:49
particularly complicated puzzle. It's just there to, it's just
24:53
there to be another thing you succeed in.
24:55
Yeah, like another. Obstacle like the little action
24:57
figures, I I love that the collectible figures.
25:02
Yeah, because they. They all you can buy all those
25:04
eventually in real life, OK. And I I never do because they're
25:09
like, but like that one right there in Doom 2016.
25:14
I like when you find and he twists his little hand and goes,
25:18
yeah, fist bumps like it's cool. Like the Doom guy has threads of
25:21
humanity and humor. I like when you find, I think
25:25
it's when you find one of the older Doom guy action figures.
25:28
It it plays the theme from that game.
25:30
Yeah, I'm pretty that's. That one right there, I think.
25:32
I think that was is it? Well, I meant this is the one of
25:36
the dark ages. There's AI.
25:39
Don't remember which toy you pick up?
25:42
What level is this? This farther in or back.
25:46
You and I, you and I would have played it at this point.
25:48
I'll have to go and find it because I have the collectible
25:50
of it. But like he, he grabs it and
25:52
like it does play like that. That theme.
25:55
I think that I think it was eternal.
25:57
I think it was the dude. Eternal Dune turtle would have
26:00
done that. Dune 2016 did that.
26:03
No, this is Dark Ages, but the action figure you picked up was
26:06
Doomslayer Eternal version I think or something like that.
26:09
It was like I got to. See if I found that.
26:11
One I'll have to look. I'll have to look for it.
26:12
Yeah, 'cause it was pretty obvious.
26:14
It wasn't like one that was hard to find.
26:15
And I know you're you've been 100% in them.
26:17
Did you? Is there a doom map in this
26:22
game? You know how they have hidden
26:23
doom levels? Yeah, I'm, I'm really bad.
26:27
I'll I'll say that right now I'm really bad at things like that.
26:30
So I never find the hidden stuff if it's not on the map.
26:34
Like if it's on the map and kind of it points me to.
26:36
There there should. It does bother you there.
26:39
Should be, yes. A little bit.
26:41
There should be an incentive to upgrade your map a little bit.
26:47
Mm hmm OK. Like by like destroying a gore
26:49
nest? You destroy a gore nest.
26:52
Make it a challenge. You kill the heart and not only
26:55
do you get your, you know, your essence, but it could unlock
26:58
some areas of like not unlock areas, but it'll be like your
27:02
map has been updated because at. That point it's like.
27:04
OK cool, there's a challenge and I and if I can't find a secret I
27:08
destroy a gore nest, which you should be doing anyways because
27:10
it's more RIP and tear or stand your ground and fucking bludgeon
27:14
to death. Yeah, stand your ground and
27:16
fight. I mean, I would, I would have
27:19
done that, Yeah, but I get it. I mean, they want people to just
27:23
hop in and play. That's they want people to just
27:26
get in and play. Ben messaged me today.
27:28
Ben's like, I'm more, I'm in. He's playing on an Xbox.
27:30
He's not give a fuck how he's going to play.
27:33
You should have fun with it man, that's great.
27:35
So my thoughts to wrap this episode up because we're doing a
27:38
quick one before the actual review with Brody.
27:43
I love it. I love this game.
27:45
This is Doom. This is everything I've wanted.
27:48
The hype is real, the excitement's real.
27:50
I'm like sitting here like a kid playing this game.
27:54
As soon as I hit and on record, I'm going back into the dark
27:57
ages and I'm playing until like 2.
27:59
Me too. Like that's.
28:00
Yeah, like, I'm not even kidding.
28:01
I'm going to probably be playing it for the rest of.
28:03
The night. What's the point?
28:05
I have alpha access to some games that I can't talk about.
28:11
I want to play Doom. It is what it is.
28:15
That's what I'm doing, what you want.
28:17
I'm going to. That's what you're going to do,
28:18
baby. For me at this moment it's wild
28:21
price and it would have to do something completely left field
28:25
to. Ruin this.
28:26
Yeah. So that's.
28:28
You you put. The bow on it, buddy.
28:31
Yeah, I'll, I'll agree with him, Nick right there on everything
28:34
and say that it's it's shaping up to be one of my favorite
28:37
games of this year by far. Definitely an early game of the
28:40
year contender for sure. Certainly.
28:44
Certainly hope it takes best action.
28:45
Game on my was Doom on my list? No, that's on Julian's list.
28:51
Julian got the points for that hawk.
28:52
On soccer. Yeah, no, I told you that was
28:56
going to happen anyways. Yeah, No, I I give it a very
29:02
high praise. I've been enjoying it so much
29:06
and I'm like, I'm a Doom fan. I would say from the 2016 and
29:09
Eternal stuff and then playing like the original a couple times
29:12
when I was really young and I thought it was fun.
29:14
I liked it. Dark Ages has completely just
29:18
grabbed me and it's like this is so much fun.
29:21
Like I'm having so much fun because it's also like the clip
29:23
potential I think is really cool of getting some pretty bad ass
29:27
clips in some of the fights. And the hidden secret, because
29:33
we can say this is not a spoiler hold whatever your I don't know
29:37
what it would be your your throw shield button and you'll really
29:41
like what happens. Well, R for keyboard and mouse,
29:43
but I don't know what it is for controller players.
29:48
Really fun, really fun stuff that happens when you hold R or
29:51
like your your throw shield button and get the chrono spike
29:56
for the impaler. Slow motion is infinitely makes
30:00
everything cooler and in a doom game, it really it gives some
30:05
type of vibe. It's really fun.
30:06
Oh, good. But yeah, huge praise early.
30:10
Can I, can I say, can we say like an early number review that
30:12
we're, we're potential? Yeah, you go first.
30:17
It's getting a 10 out of time. So far for me.
30:21
Yeah, it's getting like and I'm only getting, I'm only saying 9
30:24
1/2 because I haven't finished yet.
30:25
But like if it sticks the landing, it's pretty much a A10
30:29
out of time for me so. Damn near a masterpiece and I
30:31
don't care what any purest of Doom said.
30:34
Like I I, I have Doom tattoos. I love this franchise and I love
30:40
what they're doing and I cannot wait for the next DLCS.
30:46
I'm calling them expansion packs.
30:47
I'm going to get old. I cannot wait for the next
30:49
expansion packs for this. Game there's one or two I think
30:52
right yeah so yeah I'm excited for that I and I love that they
30:55
do that please more more more single player like developers
30:59
who make single player games do that like I love single player
31:02
DLCI was I was so excited back in the day when obvious side
31:06
note here when GTA5 had the potential they were potentially
31:10
going to release single player DLCS after the story and then
31:14
they were like yeah and then they were like but online.
31:19
We're printing money like Steam. What the fuck?
31:22
I mean, yeah, they just said yesterday they sold 215,000,000
31:26
for GTA5. They sold 5 million since
31:29
February of this year for a game that's 12 years old.
31:33
Because people are forgetting their passwords are getting
31:35
banned. That's why people are forgetting
31:39
their passwords that they're getting banned for hacking.
31:43
Oh my God, yeah, that's what it is.
31:45
It's everybody just hacking in all the money again.
31:47
All. The 12 year olds who get
31:48
reported for saying racial slurs.
31:53
It's all the people who get reported for.
31:55
Who am I kidding? The people who grief don't get
31:57
reported. That's the whole problem.
31:59
You step out of your apartment, you immediately get blown up.
32:01
But that guy's not going to get banned.
32:03
Oh my God. Oh OK.
32:06
Marathon Bungie stole art from an artist and then they went we
32:11
didn't know. But here's the problem, this
32:14
isn't your first time doing it Bungie.
32:15
Also you denied my request to be a partner so that's fine.
32:18
Now I do this have. A temper tantrum live.
32:22
Nick's very upset about this and I know that we this is only
32:25
supposed to be about doom. It it sucked that Alpha was not
32:29
good. Delay the game that's.
32:31
Delay the game and and rework some things.
32:33
It was not. It was not up to snuff it as we
32:35
were talking about it at work today.
32:37
It felt just like in apex visual Tarkovs like clone where it was
32:45
like it was slow, like Tarkov, not as realistic and not nearly
32:49
as exciting or intense, but had the visual like had the sort of
32:53
art visuals of like apex style, not visuals, but like the the
32:58
the map set up and the way things looked was very much an
33:01
Apex legends. Now we know these aren't though.
33:05
Well, yeah, that's that's always good.
33:09
Good job. So anyways, Bungie, don't do
33:12
that again because it's like the second or third.
33:14
Time you're going to. They're going to do it again.
33:15
Yeah, they're going to do it again.
33:16
Never learn. I want them do good because I
33:18
love Bungie because they created Halo and they created Marathon
33:21
and I just want that team back to make cool stuff.
33:25
But anyways. Yeah, well, one can dream.
33:27
You know what ID ID software still ID software.
33:33
Yeah, it didn't it? It did Wolfenstein as well,
33:37
right? Yes, Sir.
33:39
OK. Yeah.
33:40
When are you getting on that? And Quake.
33:43
OK don't give a shit. When are you getting on the end
33:45
of Wolfenstein? Say that on this podcast.
33:48
We have a trilogy waiting to be finished.
33:51
I think I think machine games. So I think Machine Games is.
33:54
Working. That's machine games.
33:56
Well, it's still ID. Is that just a subsidiary of ID?
34:00
OK I didn't still OK gotcha. Machine Games did the
34:02
Wolfenstein games. Wolfenstein is still an ID title
34:06
though. Because like I understand.
34:09
In the 9 whatever Quake is being worked on by Machine Games right
34:16
now. They're still not doing
34:18
Wolfenstein. So Wolfenstein may not come out
34:20
until after the next Quake comes out.
34:22
Dude, I'm going to be, I'm going to be over 30.
34:25
I don't agree with it. If you were to release a
34:28
Wolfenstein game, I know it's really quick.
34:32
Right now is the best time to do it during this presidency.
34:39
They're coming through on the mic.
34:41
But I said, I don't know if my laughs are coming through on the
34:44
mic, but don't you think, Oh boy.
34:48
I mean, the when did one and two come out?
34:51
They came out during during his first term, I think.
34:54
And and again, we're going over, we're going over our time limit
34:58
here. But yes, no, I'm pretty sure
35:00
they did Wolfenstein to the New Colossus came out in yeah, 2017,
35:08
so October the first first year of his his term.
35:14
So yeah, and it got actually a lot of hate from it got a lot of
35:21
hate from, you know, assholes. So like, who cares?
35:25
No, it wasn't the mag of people. It was it was well, maybe some
35:29
like adjacent or some mega like people, but like not all of
35:34
them. I don't want to we.
35:36
Don't have to go down this road, we really don't.
35:38
We shouldn't. We shouldn't because we we like
35:40
ourselves and we like being safe and they're not cool.
35:44
They're psychotic anyways, they're psychotic.
35:47
So Wolfenstein would be nice. Like I said during this
35:49
presidency, that'd be just hilarious to me if you released.
35:52
It it would be, it would it would be really funny because
35:54
that's what happened for this game was that it did get
35:57
backlash from them because it was like this is this is a
36:00
little on the nose and it was like, dude, shut the fuck
36:03
yourself. I think they had some pretty
36:05
good ads for Wolfenstein as well during we'll have to look him
36:08
up. I think there was like a make
36:10
America Nazi free type ads if I'm not mistaken.
36:12
I'd we'd have to look up ads. The first game, The first game
36:16
had some really cool ads that did like black and white footage
36:21
of like Nazis in like Paris or like other areas of the world
36:26
that they didn't actually get to in World War 2.
36:30
But what I liked about it was that they actually recorded
36:32
German versions of songs. So like they had the the like a
36:36
Beatles song playing in one of the trailers, but it was a
36:38
German version. I thought that was really cool.
36:41
I love, I love that I miss it. So much that that that marketing
36:44
style was pretty cool. I thought that was I like those
36:47
commercials. It's old now, so I.
36:50
Like what in in like the current time in?
36:52
Three. Yeah, cuz his daughters are
36:53
born. Well, no, cuz that's no, no, no,
36:58
no, no I I would. OK, so hold on.
37:01
There's a problem with that then, because 1 is in early 60s,
37:06
two is in mid to late 60s. Wolfenstein Youngblood, the one
37:10
you're talking about with his daughters is in the 80s.
37:13
And if we're assuming so, but then we're assuming that they
37:19
still haven't beaten them completely for 20 years,
37:22
nineties, 2000. So he would probably be in his
37:26
60s or 70s at that point. Worry about this is if you get
37:30
to like the early 2000s, there's a lot you could tackle that's
37:34
really kind of like. This is another episode.
37:37
Anyways. This is, yeah, we need to cut
37:39
this. So this is a lot we're getting.
37:41
Into conspiracy theories and we're about to talk.
37:43
We should do pretty sad shit. We should do some deep dives in
37:46
the Wolfenstein lore. OK, all right, cut it.
37:49
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