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Shannon Elizabeth Talks About Making Millions on OnlyFans and That She Will Never Date Again · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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  Speaker 1: Hi, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I'm one of your hosts, Brian Austin Green, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: really excited for my guest today, who is literally redefining
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  Speaker 2: herself in chapter two. You know her from roles in
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  Speaker 2: movies like the American Pie franchise, Scary Movie. She has
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  Speaker 2: an incredible foundation helping wildlife in South Africa. She just
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  Speaker 2: got divorced this week, not kidding, and we're going to
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  Speaker 2: dive into that and so much more so here she
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  Speaker 2: is Shannon Elizabeth.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe that we've never met before, right.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so, but I feel like we should have.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that bananas? I was like, how is that possible?
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  Speaker 2: Like, I we we met everyone during that time period.
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  Speaker 1: What was what was the timeframe of the American Pie movies?
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  Speaker 1: That was like.
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  Speaker 3: Ninety nine was the first one and all right.
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  Speaker 1: So our show was already sinking at that point. So
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  Speaker 1: that's why that's why.
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  Speaker 2: We never met, because our ratings were going to s
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  Speaker 2: as you guys were just like blowing up.
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  Speaker 1: That explains Yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine not to put you on the spot or anything.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's usually it's and it's funny too, Like
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  Speaker 2: the business was so much more segregated at that point.
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  Speaker 2: It was like you were either film or you were TV.
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  Speaker 2: And what TV always wanted to do. Film film never
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  Speaker 2: wanted to do TV. Film was like no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: forget it, Like this is this is the life. I
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  Speaker 2: like being a movie star. TV is beneath me, which
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  Speaker 2: it felt like it was. Now it's all, uh opposite everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Field has evened out and people realize, I think, if
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  Speaker 2: I want to have a family and I like I
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  Speaker 2: want to be around, I need to do a show
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  Speaker 2: that is set kind of in one place compared to
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  Speaker 2: traveling all over the world doing stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean there's not a lot of sitcoms anymore.
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  Speaker 3: But doing the sitcom was amazing, Like there was no
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  Speaker 3: better sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I did a couple.
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  Speaker 2: I did a couple of sitcom things that were like
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  Speaker 2: just game changers. They were so easy. It was so great.
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  Speaker 2: But like being on a lot, having like specific hours
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  Speaker 2: and all that, it was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: I mean yeah, especially if you lived close to the lot,
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  Speaker 3: if you live nearby, like.
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  Speaker 2: Just all of it, Like honestly the lot is close
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  Speaker 2: no matter what. Now, like it compared to having to
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  Speaker 2: fly to Canada to shoot everything, or you know, both
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  Speaker 2: Garia or all.
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  Speaker 1: Over the place.
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  Speaker 3: Well, do you know where I am right now?
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  Speaker 1: You're in South Africa right now?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Do you live there? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I pretty much look here, Yeah I do.
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  Speaker 2: Do you do you what do you travel back to
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  Speaker 2: the States for at this point? Like just to buy
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  Speaker 2: buy groceries? No, there's a Whole Foods in Texas I
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  Speaker 2: really love.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I love Whole Foods. Yeah, anywhere I travel back
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  Speaker 3: for jobs. I travel back for appearances for my fundraiser
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  Speaker 3: at the end of June, so things like that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and seeing family and friends. But I mean, there's lots
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  Speaker 3: of reasons to travel back.
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  Speaker 1: Families all here, right. Where are you from originally?
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  Speaker 3: I'm from Texas originally. But the only I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: have lots of aunts and uncles and cousins, and my
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  Speaker 3: cousin and New York is like a sister to me,
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  Speaker 3: so I probably see her most of anyone. So when
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  Speaker 3: I travel back a lot of times, I'll stay with her,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, we're we're always looking for ways to
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  Speaker 3: work together and do things together, because you know, she
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have a sister. I don't have any brothers or sisters.
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  Speaker 3: So it's kind of you're a child.
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  Speaker 1: I am amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I So I have an older brother and an older sister,
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  Speaker 2: but they're from my mom's first marriage, and there's a
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  Speaker 2: nine year age difference between my sister, who I'm the
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  Speaker 2: closest with. So I grew up feeling like an only child. Also,
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  Speaker 2: so I get I understand that, can we? So I
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  Speaker 2: I just in doing research on you, there was so
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  Speaker 2: much about you that I didn't know. So then you
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  Speaker 2: bringing up like, oh, I'm in South Africa right now,
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  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, yeah, let's go there first, Like this
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  Speaker 2: is really interesting. So this show is I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you've ever listened to it or checked it out.
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  Speaker 1: It's I Do Part two.
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  Speaker 2: And to me, the concept of this show is people
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  Speaker 2: that have lived these full lives and have experienced things
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  Speaker 2: and then kind of go in after the first time
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  Speaker 2: where things have gone a bit sideways, and they and
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  Speaker 2: they start sharing these lessons that they've learned and sharing
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  Speaker 2: who they are and how they've grown. But then we
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  Speaker 2: all were sort of a community, so we grow together. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: only child, raised, born and raised in Texas. How how
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  Speaker 2: many pets did you have?
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  Speaker 1: When you were a kid. One well, just one.
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  Speaker 3: There was a moment where I had a bird as well.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody gave me a bird, but then the bird died.
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  Speaker 3: And my parents had a poodle like a miniature poodle
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  Speaker 3: when I was born, and they would never allow me
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  Speaker 3: to have more animals.
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  Speaker 1: Did you want more animals?
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  Speaker 2: Though?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I would cry and be like, when I grow
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  Speaker 3: up tons of animals around me, I'm gonna have like
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  Speaker 3: a farm of animals, was always my threat to them.
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  Speaker 1: Cut two rhinos and all that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, when I lived in La and I started my charity,
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  Speaker 3: I had seven dogs at any given time. I always
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  Speaker 3: had seven dogs in my house.
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  Speaker 1: Like rescues like fostering, you know.
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  Speaker 3: They became mine, so I did. I would foster and
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  Speaker 3: sometimes animals. It kind of it was weird because it
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  Speaker 3: started out that we would foster these animals and or
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  Speaker 3: we would find an animal and then somebody a friend
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  Speaker 3: would come over and be like, oh that's a cool dog,
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  Speaker 3: and we're like do you want them? You know, And
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of how it started. That's how the rescuing
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  Speaker 3: kind of started. It's like, oh, you like this dog,
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  Speaker 3: do you want a dog? And they would take them
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  Speaker 3: and and it just kind of naturally developed from there
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  Speaker 3: and then you know, they're just became. You just kind
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  Speaker 3: of knew when it was your core animal or a
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  Speaker 3: rescue that was going to move on to another home,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but it was always So I have one
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  Speaker 3: dog sitting next to me right now, in the chair
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  Speaker 3: next to me.
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  Speaker 2: So what's really funny is my fiance she before me,
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  Speaker 2: she owned a house off of beech Wood, just under.
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  Speaker 1: The Hollywood sign, and it was her and her.
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  Speaker 2: Two dogs that she had rescued, and she lived this
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  Speaker 2: very simple life, but she would like foster dogs all
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  Speaker 2: the time and like that was a big part of
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  Speaker 2: everything for her. And then we ended up together. She
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  Speaker 2: now we had a baby together, but I already had
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  Speaker 2: four kids, so all of a sudden she had this
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  Speaker 2: like massive family. And then when she decided she wanted
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  Speaker 2: to foster, it was like, you've got to we already
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  Speaker 2: had three dogs, Like this has to fit into our world,
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  Speaker 2: which is it's difficult because foster dogs sometimes have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of issues from you know, like previous traumas and
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  Speaker 2: things that they've this one here. We have little dogs
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  Speaker 2: and one named Daisy, that is she's I love Daisy,
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  Speaker 2: but she is so complicated, like there's just so much
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  Speaker 2: going on in her head, and she is like constantly
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  Speaker 2: growling and sort of snapping and worried that somebody's gonna
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  Speaker 2: hurt her. So she's got that little dog syndrome. Plus
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  Speaker 2: she's getting old now, so her hearing is going, which
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  Speaker 2: just makes it twice is worse. Like she's running around
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  Speaker 2: the house and she's panicking, thinking she wants to find you,
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  Speaker 2: and you call her name, but she doesn't even hear you,
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  Speaker 2: like she just keeps running in the opposite direction. But
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  Speaker 2: so we fostered dogs that were pregnant and had puppies,
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  Speaker 2: and we ended up having these puppies and we have
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of friends that have them now that adopted.
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  Speaker 1: Them, and we love them.
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  Speaker 2: But it is, it's it is a choice to gold
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  Speaker 2: the route of animal activism. I mean, can we jump
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  Speaker 2: into your I don't want to say personal life because
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  Speaker 2: it's not, but because this show is, I do part two,
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  Speaker 2: Like I want to get into relationships stuff a little
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  Speaker 2: bit because I think people need.
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  Speaker 1: All the help they can get.
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  Speaker 2: I know I did, like I you know, I just
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  Speaker 2: sort of I learned it was trial by fire for me.
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  Speaker 2: So you were you were not you were not married
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  Speaker 2: at the point when you moved to South Africa. That
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  Speaker 2: was you were married before then.
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  Speaker 3: So I was married in early two thousands for a
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  Speaker 3: few so I was with a guy named Joe who
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  Speaker 3: is now my manager.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, I think I think the people that actually
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  Speaker 2: put this together they spoke to him all, which is fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: I love that you guys have that.
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  Speaker 3: Joe actually was on nine O two one zero for
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  Speaker 3: an episode because he's yeah, you're kidding, he was cut out.
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  Speaker 3: He got cut out because it was a controversial episode
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  Speaker 3: and they yeah, yeah, they were worried about it. But
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  Speaker 3: that was one of his first jobs.
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  Speaker 1: He had said, that's hysterical.
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  Speaker 3: So we were together for ten years. So we were.
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  Speaker 3: We were together for seven before we got married and
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  Speaker 3: then married for three and then then I dated way
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  Speaker 3: too much and then I moved to South Africa. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just kipping over. I moved to South Africa and then
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  Speaker 3: I met someone here and got married and just got
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  Speaker 3: divorced and it got finalized two days ago.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations is that?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that is absolutely congratulations. And that's the end of
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  Speaker 3: my dating. I'm done, is it? Yeah? I don't see
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  Speaker 3: me dating ever again, not for a very long time
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  Speaker 3: or not on purpose. Yeah, No, I'm absolutely not getting
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  Speaker 3: married again. And I just I don't have I don't
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  Speaker 3: have any desire right now today, Like I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like your your pickers broken at all?
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  Speaker 2: Like what do you think? Because it's it's it's hard,
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  Speaker 2: Like I get it. I have again, five kids, three
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  Speaker 2: different mothers, and I went through two relationships one we
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  Speaker 2: were married for almost ten years, very public divorce, and
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  Speaker 2: I remember at one point going thinking, God, I am
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  Speaker 2: like I'm the common denominator with everything that's gone wrong,
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  Speaker 2: Like so I have to accept some sort of responsibility
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  Speaker 2: because I didn't want to be single the rest of
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  Speaker 2: my life and I didn't want to carry into my
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  Speaker 2: next relationship what I had done, what I felt my
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  Speaker 2: part was in the first two relationships that didn't work.
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  Speaker 2: Have you had any of that or are you just
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  Speaker 2: sort of like I just want to focus on what
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing now and I'll get to that later.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean you have any like working on myself?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Like do you is there are do you have? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're in a place where you
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  Speaker 2: want to work on yourself to better yourself for the
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  Speaker 2: next relationship, or do you feel like I just want
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  Speaker 2: to work on myself to be the best conservationist I
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  Speaker 2: can be right now, on the best human being on
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  Speaker 2: my own.
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  Speaker 3: I had a lot of working on myself after my
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  Speaker 3: first relationship. After I did all that Deity, I did
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  Speaker 3: a lot of work on myself. So after I went
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  Speaker 3: a little wild and crazy, I did a lot of
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  Speaker 3: work and I definitely did a lot wrong in that relationship,
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  Speaker 3: and it took a lot of responsibility for that. Eventually
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  Speaker 3: that was one hundred percent on me.
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  Speaker 2: This last it was, well, it's two people in a relationship,
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  Speaker 2: so I feel like there are but they each person
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  Speaker 2: triggers each other, and then it triggers the worst in people.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure you could have made a ton of
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  Speaker 2: mistakes and done things, but never one hundred percent you,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think, But go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I'm taking responsibility for it though, like he knows. We've
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  Speaker 3: talked about it, and I acknowledge that I did a
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  Speaker 3: lot wrong. I was for whatever reason, I just wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't myself, to be honest, like, I just wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: That wasn't me. I wasn't myself that wasn't authentically who
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  Speaker 3: I am. And I think that's why now we are
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  Speaker 3: best friends and we could come back to working together
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  Speaker 3: and loving each other in a different way.
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  Speaker 1: How could you possibly authentically be you? Though?
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  Speaker 2: Like how there's nothing authentic about what it is we
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  Speaker 2: do professionally.
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  Speaker 1: Like there is.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very weird place to be and especially because
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  Speaker 2: you were young, I was like, it's not there is? Well,
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  Speaker 2: what who do you possibly meet or ask questions to
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  Speaker 2: get any sort of like good perspective on it. It's
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  Speaker 2: a very upside down, crazy world to be in. So
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you'd like I not to preach to you,
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  Speaker 2: but like people have to give themselves a little grace
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  Speaker 2: sometimes in growing and figuring something out. And the world
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  Speaker 2: that we're in that we live in professionally is not
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  Speaker 2: a normal, healthy place to be in. You can make
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  Speaker 2: a lot of wrong turns if you allow yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely, And I think I definitely had those
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  Speaker 3: moments where I just went off the rails, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And I have a lot of regrets from back then,
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  Speaker 3: and I've worked really hard to try to make amends
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  Speaker 3: to things that I did and said and the ways
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  Speaker 3: I acted and I'm not proud of that period of
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  Speaker 3: time at all.
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like regrets are I regret what are to
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  Speaker 2: me are good if you recognize them as periods of growth,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't. To me, any of the failures that
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  Speaker 2: I had in my life leading up to now, all
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  Speaker 2: of them created who I am now.
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  Speaker 1: So I wouldn't change any of them.
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  Speaker 2: But I definitely look back and I go, boy, that
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  Speaker 2: wasn't handled well.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely could have been better in this situation. I could.
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  Speaker 2: But I love them now, like I embrace all of
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  Speaker 2: them because they all have Look at you, look at you,
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  Speaker 2: look at the life that you're that you're living, and
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  Speaker 2: look at what you're doing. And the better the betterment
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  Speaker 2: that you that you are providing to the world. But
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  Speaker 2: it's all of those all of those crazy missteps, it's
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's you from American Pie.
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  Speaker 1: It's like all of the stuff.
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  Speaker 2: That you went through leading to who you are now,
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  Speaker 2: which is which is really amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Well thank you for that, I mean, and that's very sweet.
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  Speaker 3: But I do have the regrets, and I would change things,
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  Speaker 3: and I think I would still be I would still
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  Speaker 3: be where I was supposed to be now, whether it
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  Speaker 3: would just I would have gotten here in a different path.
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  Speaker 3: I would have taken a different road, a different yellow
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  Speaker 3: brick road. I would have gone a different direction, but
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  Speaker 3: it would still have led to the same place. I
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  Speaker 3: think I think it had to, you know, I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I was supposed to be here no matter what.
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  Speaker 1: What was the biggest lesson you think that you learned
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  Speaker 1: through throughout?
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  Speaker 2: Like if you could looking back on the twenty five
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  Speaker 2: year old Shannon, like, what would you what advice would
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  Speaker 2: you give her now.
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  Speaker 1: Compared to the way you were living then.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, to be honest, as far as like
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  Speaker 3: the relationship side of it goes, you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: there was a part of me that always thought I
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  Speaker 3: was missing out on something, that the grass was always greener,
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  Speaker 3: that there was always something else out there I was
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be doing and it's just not the case.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't really know how to answer that, to
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  Speaker 3: be honest, I think I just I went through a
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  Speaker 3: very dark period. I think like attracts like and when
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  Speaker 3: I started going through a bad time, I was attracting
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  Speaker 3: a lot of bad things. And likewise, if you're in
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  Speaker 3: a good place, you attract good things. And that's why
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  Speaker 3: it's so important to try to always be energetically in
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  Speaker 3: such a good place. So it's you know when people say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: one thing goes wrong, everything goes wrong, Well, yeah, because
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  Speaker 3: you're attracting other things and that low vibration.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right, especially if you're putting that energy out,
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  Speaker 2: Like if you believe in manifesting at all, which I do,
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  Speaker 2: is like, if you're putting out nothing but negative energy,
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  Speaker 2: that's what you're going to attract, Like you attract exactly.
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  Speaker 2: That is what you to me, that's what you have
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  Speaker 2: control over. Like that is the control in your life.
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  Speaker 2: All the rest of it is bananas all the time,
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  Speaker 2: and it will be your entire your entire go at it.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing that we have control over are these
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  Speaker 2: choices that we make in how we deal with them,
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  Speaker 2: who we are, how people experience us, and whether we
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  Speaker 2: see the silver lining and everything or we just sort
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  Speaker 2: of fade into the tough situations.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think there's a lesson in everything. I
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  Speaker 3: do believe everything happens for a reason. It doesn't mean
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  Speaker 3: that I don't wish I could go back and change
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  Speaker 3: some of the things that I went through and that
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  Speaker 3: I've done. There are definitely pivotal moments that change things
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  Speaker 3: in my life and in my career that I would
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  Speaker 3: love to know had I gone a different way, what
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  Speaker 3: things would be like, you know, And one day I
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: probably will put it all in a book. Yeah, you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of things that I feel
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: like more and more I can, I'm getting closer to
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: being able to talk about them. It's tough because you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: we're in an industry. When you start talking about things,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: it does involve other people in the industry, And what
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: are you allowed to say? What do you want to say?
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: What are you who are you protecting?
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: And at some point you just want to let it
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: all out and release that.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, transparency is tough, for sure. It's really hard.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: To know what to get into and not like I am.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I'm in a place now where I definitely share more
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: than I ever did. But at the same time, you're right, like,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: there's a part of me that is like, hmmm, is
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: that going too far? Am I implicating somebody that's not
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: ready to get into it?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: On their side?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, it's you do you do edit yourself
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: and the things you talk about a little bit, which sucks.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: It's it's not a great feeling because then you're not
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: getting everything out.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's definitely things people asked me about
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: that I have to lie. We've got to be like, oh,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Get everything out in a book, Like I can't.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Writing a book terrifies me because it's like, oh, man,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: do I really want to? Like because those words on
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: page those are truly forever. Like I can change my
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: mind in interviews and go in different directions, and people
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: sort of see the evolution of me compared to like
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: how many books am I going to write? You know,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: like I may I may write two, and at that
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: point it's like you've only seen two iterations of me
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: on paper. I'm much more of like I'll just choose
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: to do interviews and talk about things.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: See. But with the interviews sometimes I mean for me,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I say the wrong thing and then I like stress
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: about it till it comes out. I'm like, oh, maybe
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't have said that, Oh why did I say that? Like,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: and there's nothing I can do. I've lost control at book.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: At least I can go back and I can edit it.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I can have a lawyer look at it and like, Okay,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: get it to the boy where I'm like, I've sat
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: with it for two years before I decide.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Interviews, though, you can take you can take your time
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: when you're speaking to people, Like most most of the
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: interviews that we do aren't live, so it's like, take
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: your time. If you have to think about a question
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: for five minutes, you think about it for five minutes.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: If somebody needs to cut it out for time, then
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: they do. If it's a print interview, it doesn't can
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: matter anyway. They're just literally going from answer to answer
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to answer. But yeah, it's a very uh, it's a
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: weird it's a weird kind of fish bowl thing that
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: we I mean, especially now for you, Like all of
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: the attention that you're getting with only fans is it's
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: mind blowing, Like were you expecting at.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: All to have the attention that you're that you're getting.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Not No at all.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: No, I have no idea, no idea.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: So I'm engaged.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: So I don't have any only fans subscriptions. I did, yeah,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: So like I can't even say, oh, well, so I've
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: watched your content and so here's how it differs from
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: other things that you would imagine. But from what I've
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: read you're very specific of like, no, this is a
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: piece of my life that people don't.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Normally normally get. Do you feel like that has.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Been therapeutic in some way because people get to see
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: like an authentic part of you where you don't feel
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: quite as worried about what you put out or do
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: you feel like you're.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Much more.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Much more controlled and you're much more careful now of
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: what it is you say.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: And it's it's starting to allow me to drop my
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: my walls a little bit, you know, whereas everything was
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: always had to be so perfectly done and so perfectly
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: manicured and so perfectly put together.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: And the more I do this, the more I'm like,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: h it doesn't matter. I can do this with no makeup.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I can do this without like wry as I go
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: to bed, as I wake up in the morning, like
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I'm getting used to being able to share and not
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: care as much. I still care, but it's allowing me
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: to get more comfortable with myself in a weird way,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: like it's.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: It's happening me.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: It makes sense, Like, yeah, be authentic. Is it's crazy?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: It's counterintuitive. You would assume that people would not connect
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: with you the same way if you're not perfect all
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the time when you're on camera and you're not saying
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: all the right things. But the reality is people connect
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: more with you when you are human and you are
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: absolutely yourself in all moments, whether they're flawed or not.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: People really love authentic people because then they feel like, oh, Okay,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: they're normal people just like I am. So it's sort
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: of it levels the playing field a little bit. It
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: seems like the more. When I got to a point
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: where I was like, Okay, I'm a little more willing
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: to share and just kind of be open and honest,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: people responded really well to it. I was like, oh man,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: this is addicting. It feels good to not worry so much.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: It makes life way simpler. Yeah, I've put so much
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: stress on my life and I've made life so much
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: more complicated than it ever had to be.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: But it's the same way though with dating.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: For me, it's when I got to the point where
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I was dating again, I was like, God, I'm going
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: to stop putting on the mask of like what I
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: assume people would love and all of that, and that
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: whole honeymoon period. I'm going to not have any of
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: that I'm just going to be me from the get go,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: and if you don't like me, I don't want to
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: waste my time doing this and being in something new.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I've got so much other going on, Like you know,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: you have rhinos to save.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I have kids to raise like I don't have.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: We have way bigger lives than then, you know, dating
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: or being in a relationship with somebody. I want to
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: find somebody that matches the life that I'm already living,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: that I can then have as.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: A teammate through it all. Yeah, you do you feel
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: like you.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Do? You feel like you want that again eventually, or
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: like you're fine without it right now and you're really
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: set in who you are and what you're doing.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I'm absolutely fine without it. I don't feel like I
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: need it. I feel more myself, more alive, more free.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like I'm missing anything. In fact, I
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: feel just the opposite. And having this freedom now to
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I mean hanging out with my girlfriends, it's just for me.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just as fulfilling as hanging out with
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: a partner.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: It's not more so because you're finding yourself and you're
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: not putting any other pressure of like how how am
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I being perceived by the other person that I'm with
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: right now? And yeah, it's it's a it's a completely
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: different situation. And I think it's important for people to
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: to like really cherish that time when they are single
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and alone, to really find themselves and.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Find again who you love being.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: So then when you go into the next relationship, which
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: for me was totally unplanned. I wasn't dating, I wasn't
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: actively searching for somebody.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: It just worked out that way.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I ended up meeting someone that I had so much
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: in common with. Naturally it was like, oh, I can
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: let's hang out, Like let's see you know why, Like
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: we should just absolutely be friends, and then it went
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: from friends to just we we have an amazing relationship.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: But it's I think it's important to do that. I
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: think people that don't spend time with themselves and with
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: their friends, they really miss out on that finding of
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: who they truly are with their friends and by themselves
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: and waking up in the morning and doing your own things.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I think I think they're they're they're short changing themselves,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: and then they go into a new relationship putting too
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: much on this other partner. You depend on the other
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: person too much compared to like you figured out how
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: to do it yourself. I don't really need you to
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: do any of this stuff, but let's just do it together.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: It's let's just share all of these things.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I I don't see me going into
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: another relationship ever, so I'm not you know, I'm I've
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: got my charity, my charity work then I'm doing. I've
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: got my friends, I've got acting, I've got not only
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: fans and all like connecting with all of my fans
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: that way. My life is full. I don't even have
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: time or room for a partner. I don't want one.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I'm so happy the way things are right now. I've
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: got my my cousin who's like a sister to me,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: and we're looking to do things together like They's just
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I don't have time for a partner. It means I
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: would neglect doing the things that I'm loving doing right now.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm good.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: You're also just two days out of divorce, so I'm sure.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: A part of you too, And that's like, like I'm.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Free of this, thank goodness.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a whole different feeling shitting in your home,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: but it's amazing. I mean that is a that's I
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: envy that for sure, and I think that's a great
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: place to be in.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: You can't end me that because you're engaged.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Well, but never say never say never to a relationship,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: but I do.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I do envy that feeling. Luckily.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I am engaged, and it's we're in a
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: place now where we are we're able to really sort
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: of find ourselves still, but we're just partners in doing it,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: so I don't I'm not alone now in this search
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: for life and the things I want to do and
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: the things I want to accomplish and and lives I
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: want to change in a positive way. She's very much
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: aligned with me that way. So we're just really realizing
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: now that it's like, oh power and numbers, we can
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: do so much more together than we could do separated.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Well, that's amazing you found that, congratulations because that's not
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: easy to find. And I'm sure you're easy together in
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: past lives if you're like disconnected now, so you've been
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: together lifetime after life.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I for sure for sure feel that way. It's
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: funny you we were talking about before that all of
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: a sudden there when when my marriage ended. I and
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I wasn't really dating, but I was just sort of
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: living life and I was raising my kids and all that.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Australian women started coming in my life in random ways,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: and I was like, I've never once been friends with
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: an Australian. Like, I've never dated an Australian woman. This
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense to me. And then at the
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: point when my business manager was like, oh, I've got
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: a client that I think you should meet. You guys
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: just remind me a lot of each other when I'm
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: with either one of you.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: And I met her and she was Australian, I was like, what.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: The fuck is Like, why what is it about Australia
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: about Okay, this is like I'm gonna trust the universe
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: wants this for me. Now, this is a new space
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be in. Yeah, like all all you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: hands down, cool, let's go, let's do this.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: And it's been such an amazing relationship because it's opened
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: my eyes to a different way of viewing the world
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: and a different way of really honoring people that are
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: around me. We have just an unbelievable relationship. I Sharna
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: is her name, and I love her more than I've
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: ever loved anybody in that life.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Aside from my kids. Yeah, Dancing with the Stars.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know who that is. That's amazing. Oh
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: I don't remember if she was on when I was on.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Oh way, you did the show?
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, season six, so it was a long time ago,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: so I don't think she was on yet, but I
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: know of her because of the show. Yeah.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So we have been We've been together for almost
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: five years now. It's unbelievable. We met during COVID. We
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: had a business manager in common who suggested we meet
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: each other. And this person is not like, she is
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: not somebody that normally sets people up, like that's not
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: her mo, you wouldn't meet her and go ooh matchmaker
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: this one. You know, she's like great at her job
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: and what she does with money in it, so she's
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: very We very much were like, oh, she's great with that.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: So when she suggested it, it was like, oh, that's interesting, Okay, sure.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: So we ended up meeting for coffee and we had
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: this amazing six hour conversation. But we talked about our strengths,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: our weaknesses, all of it. Like it was very unfiltered
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: because she'd been single for five years.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: At that point, I had come out of my marriage.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, I never.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Again want to make the same mistakes. So I had
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: been heavy into therapy and sort of working on myself
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: and very much connected with un the common denominator in
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: things that have gone wrong. I want to fix that,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: if not for a relationship, just for myself. So we
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: were very aligned morally and we had this amazing conversation.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: We never had a honeymoon period where we started seeing
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: each other in the ways of like, oh my god,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: you don't handle stress very well, or you like, you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: you can only maintain the facade for so long before
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: you get into real life, and it's like, oh man,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: this is it's it's it's impossible to sustain this, this
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: fantasy that I've painted for someone else.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: So we never had that. So we had this amazing relationship.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: But you have to be in the place where you
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: honestly just don't give a ship at that like I
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: didn't care whether in meeting her there was a love
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: connection or not. It wasn't like a blind date for me.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: It was I didn't have my fingers crossed and I
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: was hoping that something would come out of it. I
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: was just like, oh, this is yeah, let's sit down
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: and have coffee and meet and hang out. And then
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: we left that situation. I was like, oh, that was
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: really amazing. I've never I've never dated someone where it
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: was a six hour conversation over literally nothing sexual, Like
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: that was the last thing on my mind. I just
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: wanted to sit down and do it again. I was like,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: this is a great connection. This is a really cool
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: thing to have. We had like four more of those
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: before we were even like even kissed or like. It
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: was just it was a really cool, cool connection. And
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm not going to put pressure on you,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: but I think if you continue on the path that
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: you're on, that'll be the next thing for you, because
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: it seems like you're you're on that path now.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I sure.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Again, I say, am I'm not looking for it. I'm
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: not going to look for it. I feel very full
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: without it. If it's meant to be, then we'll see.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: But at this point in time, no interest.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: That's the place to be. Okay.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: So Shannon, I could uh just talk your ear off
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: and I have this conversation all day, but I think
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: what we should do is we sh to make a
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Part two out of this, so people come back and
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: they they listen to more of this because we have
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: so much more to get into it.