Latest / The Skol Hop / Ca$hin’ Czech$, Possible Vikings Trades, and teams similar to the Vikes | TSH Ep. 91
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
- 0:03Speaker 1: of the school app I'm Evan and I'm Austin. Where's
- 0:06Speaker 1: a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer
- 0:08Speaker 1: talking about the Vikings.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And the beer we had we cashed
- 0:11Speaker 2: some checks with a great beer tonight from Dimensional Brewing
- 0:15Speaker 2: out of Dubuke, Iowa. Was fantastic. Yeah, great beer.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Then we got into the weeds of some of the
- 0:21Speaker 1: most recent Vikings Territory articles where we cover an friend
- 0:26Speaker 1: of the show, Dustin Baker, covers some potential Vikings trades
- 0:31Speaker 1: as well as the new NFL Protector of the Year award.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Yeah, that award's pretty sick. Another thing that's pretty nice
- 0:39Speaker 2: now compared to a year ago are the Vikings current
- 0:42Speaker 2: odds to win the Super Bowl. They're not the odds
- 0:44Speaker 2: on favorites. But we did take another look at a
- 0:48Speaker 2: Vikings Territory article from last year comparing the Vikings odds
- 0:52Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl compared to other teams who
- 0:54Speaker 2: had similar odds and how last year turned out. And
- 0:57Speaker 2: then we looked at twenty twenty five and how they
- 0:59Speaker 2: rank against other teams with similar odds too. That was
- 1:01Speaker 2: pretty fun.
- 1:02Speaker 1: I like the Vikings odds this year. I also like
- 1:04Speaker 1: the odds of finishing this beer that we tried. We're
- 1:08Speaker 1: gonna smash this great beer. Check out the episode and
- 1:12Speaker 1: grab a cold one and join us school school.
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- 2:33Speaker 1: vacation because I'm a little tanner and I have a
- 2:36Speaker 1: little bit of red on my nose than I did
- 2:39Speaker 1: previous week. But it's not because I went on a
- 2:41Speaker 1: trip at Big Top. I was sitting out of the
- 2:44Speaker 1: track met all weekend.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Well, and today was Memorial Day, so you were doing
- 2:48Speaker 2: some yard work outside today I did some yardwork. You
- 2:51Speaker 2: may not be able to tell from my skin color
- 2:55Speaker 2: that I just spent a week in Jamaica here not
- 2:57Speaker 2: too long ago, because I don't tan. I turned red,
- 3:01Speaker 2: even if it's not sunburn, it's just like a weird
- 3:03Speaker 2: tomato red. And I think I said this on the
- 3:06Speaker 2: show a few weeks ago, that I'm an avid indoorsman.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Uh and that includes, you know, being in tropical locations
- 3:13Speaker 2: as well. I like, I don't like to spend one
- 3:15Speaker 2: hundred percent of my time outside, so I didn't get
- 3:17Speaker 2: the best tan ever. I mean, I'm sure if I
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- 3:23Speaker 2: If you're watching right now, you can see my watch ten.
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- 3:35Speaker 2: So thanks big time.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Well, you brought some beer. I did tell
- 3:40Speaker 1: us about it.
- 3:41Speaker 2: So this beer is from I feel like I've never
- 3:45Speaker 2: heard of this brewery before, but it's a brewery out
- 3:48Speaker 2: of Debuque, Iowa called Dimensional Brewing Company. I feel like
- 3:54Speaker 2: I've never heard of it, but there's a really good
- 3:55Speaker 2: chance that through for an of the show forest, I've
- 3:58Speaker 2: probably even had some of their beers before. I wouldn't
- 4:01Speaker 2: be surprised. This one, though, is a check dark lagger. Uh,
- 4:06Speaker 2: And I really appreciate this this beer name. It's not
- 4:10Speaker 2: the craziest beer pun name I've ever seen, but it's
- 4:14Speaker 2: it's really good. It's solid. It is called cash and
- 4:18Speaker 2: checks as in a check lagger. So yeah, it says
- 4:22Speaker 2: it's a check dark lagger. I'm not too sure what
- 4:24Speaker 2: that means. I expect when we pour it, it's gonna
- 4:28Speaker 2: be a darker color, maybe have a little bit more
- 4:31Speaker 2: of a you know, full body flavor than just a
- 4:34Speaker 2: regular lagger. I just noticed on this this can art.
- 4:39Speaker 2: It's a really just generic black can art with gold lettering.
- 4:44Speaker 2: But if you notice there's dollar signs, Yeah, the S
- 4:48Speaker 2: and the S in check no, but there's like speckled
- 4:51Speaker 2: dollar signs all throughout the black. So good job at
- 4:57Speaker 2: least on the can art dimensional. I'm really excited to
- 5:00Speaker 2: you're pouring yours and yeah, it's it's already looking it's
- 5:03Speaker 2: like dark. Yeah, it's looking like a porter, is what
- 5:05Speaker 2: it's looking like.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Well, I can't drink this beer that's called cash and
- 5:11Speaker 1: Checks without making some sort of a reference to Randy
- 5:14Speaker 1: Moss straight cash, homie. Yeah, you're gonna pay that fine,
- 5:19Speaker 1: straight cash homie. So there's my reference. It is dark.
- 5:24Speaker 1: I cannot see through it. The head on this beer
- 5:27Speaker 1: is outstanding. Yeah, it's got a really nice foamy head
- 5:33Speaker 1: to it.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Let's smell. We'll do the smell check, all right, all right,
- 5:37Speaker 2: I will say just by looking at this beer, it's
- 5:40Speaker 2: gonna throw me off if it doesn't have like a
- 5:42Speaker 2: coffee undertone to it, Like.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Yeah, and you almost get that on the smell. Okay,
- 5:46Speaker 1: give it a sniff here in a second. There's there's
- 5:49Speaker 1: definitely like some multi caramely tones. It reminds me of
- 5:55Speaker 1: the a little bit of the adventurous dark Logger that
- 6:00Speaker 1: we had a few weeks ago on episode eighty nine.
- 6:04Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, we need to try this.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready, so broke those glasses. Yeah, that's a
- 6:18Speaker 2: good beer. That's interesting because it's it's definitely a Logger,
- 6:25Speaker 2: but it does have.
- 6:26Speaker 1: It's less sweet than I expected it to be. It
- 6:29Speaker 1: does not have the like caramel notes. But it's almost
- 6:33Speaker 1: a little bit more like our beer that we had
- 6:35Speaker 1: that we brewed with forest, not too It's got a
- 6:38Speaker 1: little bit more of that nutty undertone, which is good.
- 6:42Speaker 1: I like that it has a more complex flavor profile
- 6:47Speaker 1: to it.
- 6:49Speaker 2: I don't know, it's it's rich, and I like that,
- 6:53Speaker 2: you know me.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I like a beer that doesn't try to pretend to
- 6:56Speaker 1: be something that it's not, and this is a beer
- 6:58Speaker 1: that just doesn't pretend to be anything.
- 7:01Speaker 2: It's just what it is. Yeah. I mean, I feel
- 7:04Speaker 2: like it might not be the best description, but the
- 7:07Speaker 2: only one I can think of is to say that
- 7:09Speaker 2: it's a dark Logger makes complete sense after you try it. Yeah,
- 7:13Speaker 2: I agree with everything you said. Nothing too sweet, nothing
- 7:18Speaker 2: too crazy. It's just a nice, normal Logger with like
- 7:23Speaker 2: a you know, darker flavor to it, a more nutty
- 7:29Speaker 2: flavor to it. I like it, And you're not You're
- 7:31Speaker 2: not kidding this is a black beer. You are not
- 7:34Speaker 2: seeing through this at all. No light is getting through
- 7:38Speaker 2: it is It's a it's a cool looking beer. I
- 7:40Speaker 2: really enjoy it so far, and I'm interested to see
- 7:44Speaker 2: how much I enjoy it after twofold.
- 7:46Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of beers that kind
- 7:48Speaker 1: of are in this category at least by like color
- 7:52Speaker 1: and head and whatnot, they have that kind of sweet yeah, caramel,
- 7:58Speaker 1: a little bit more of that, like mall.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Type of after flavor.
- 8:03Speaker 1: This doesn't have that necessarily, That's what I was expecting,
- 8:06Speaker 1: and it doesn't have that.
- 8:07Speaker 2: It's it's a little bit drier. It's a little bit more.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Like, like I said, nut flavored, maybe a little bit
- 8:15Speaker 1: more on the earthy tone side of things, and less
- 8:19Speaker 1: of the sweet. I don't know, caramel is the only
- 8:23Speaker 1: thing I get.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Yeah, that's multi Yeah, yeah, I think you're hitting the
- 8:27Speaker 2: nail on it. It's really good though.
- 8:28Speaker 1: I like it and it's different, and I think that's
- 8:30Speaker 1: one of the reasons I like it.
- 8:32Speaker 2: For sure too. Also another thing with beers that look
- 8:34Speaker 2: like this, they're usually at least six and a half
- 8:37Speaker 2: seven percent, which I there's a time and place, and
- 8:40Speaker 2: I very much enjoy a six and a half seven
- 8:42Speaker 2: plus percent beer. This one's five point nine, which, yeah,
- 8:46Speaker 2: there's also a really good time to place for a
- 8:48Speaker 2: lower content beer like that, and that's not even a
- 8:51Speaker 2: low content beer that's still right at six. Yeah, I
- 8:54Speaker 2: think this one hits a home run for me. I
- 8:57Speaker 2: like it a lot, Yeah for sure.
- 9:00Speaker 1: All Right, Well, we're officially kind of in the quiet
- 9:03Speaker 1: part of the NFL offseason, like we are now through
- 9:09Speaker 1: free agency or through the draft, we're through the schedule release,
- 9:15Speaker 1: like we kind of know everything there is to know
- 9:18Speaker 1: about the upcoming Vikings season. I mean, barring any sort
- 9:23Speaker 1: of like catastrophic injury in training camp or anything like that.
- 9:28Speaker 2: Like, there's not a whole lot to know.
- 9:33Speaker 1: There's not a lot of news coming out, but there
- 9:35Speaker 1: still could be any like any sort of trade I
- 9:39Speaker 1: guess could could happen, or a free agent could be
- 9:43Speaker 1: picked up. And I think that's maybe the most like
- 9:48Speaker 1: podcast worthy topic at this point, like any addition, like
- 9:52Speaker 1: who could possibly make their way to the Vikings, probably
- 9:56Speaker 1: at this point via a trade more than anything. I
- 9:58Speaker 1: don't know that there are any like super notable free
- 10:01Speaker 1: agents out there that the Vikings would scoop up and
- 10:04Speaker 1: be better because of it.
- 10:06Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And it's interesting you say it that way, because,
- 10:10Speaker 2: like we said last week, I had recorded, or I
- 10:14Speaker 2: had thought I recorded pretty solid forty ish minutes of
- 10:18Speaker 2: conversation with front of the show Dustin Baker. Turns out
- 10:21Speaker 2: I didn't hit record and we can make fun of
- 10:24Speaker 2: me for the end of time. That's hilarious. I earned it.
- 10:27Speaker 2: But one of the questions I asked him on this
- 10:29Speaker 2: unrecorded segment that we just had a phone call with
- 10:31Speaker 2: each other with, was with all of you know, free
- 10:34Speaker 2: agency and draft and everything done, are the Vikings done
- 10:37Speaker 2: making additions to the roster? And he said kind of
- 10:41Speaker 2: probably that there might be a free agent here there,
- 10:47Speaker 2: but barring injury, it's probably what we have is what
- 10:49Speaker 2: we'll get. But on top of that, he kind of
- 10:53Speaker 2: mentioned a couple of names, and recently Dustin put out
- 10:56Speaker 2: an article I think it was even published today Memorial Day,
- 11:02Speaker 2: basically saying that Vikings territory would endorse two different trades
- 11:09Speaker 2: for the Vikings to make to add players to the roster.
- 11:11Speaker 2: So he's not Dustin wasn't like predicting that these will happen,
- 11:15Speaker 2: or that they they're on the brink of happening, or
- 11:18Speaker 2: that they're the only moves that he would root for.
- 11:21Speaker 2: But if they were to make a trade. In the article,
- 11:24Speaker 2: he kind of alludes to the fact that Quacy has
- 11:27Speaker 2: always kind of made, you know, one trade or one
- 11:30Speaker 2: free agent signing around this time of year, so it's
- 11:34Speaker 2: not far fetched to think it could happen. But there
- 11:36Speaker 2: were two players he listed out, Evan which players did
- 11:39Speaker 2: he list out?
- 11:40Speaker 1: So he listed out Michael Meyer from the Raiders, And
- 11:46Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons he gives here is
- 11:48Speaker 1: because the Raiders picked Brock Bowers at the end of
- 11:52Speaker 1: Round one in the NFL Draft, so that would make
- 11:55Speaker 1: sense that they brought in a new tight end. One
- 11:58Speaker 1: has to go, and then the other one that Dustin
- 12:03Speaker 1: talks about in his article is Trek Woolen, cornerback out
- 12:07Speaker 1: of Seattle. And if I had to pick one right now,
- 12:12Speaker 1: if I had to say cornerback, Tarek Woolen or tight end,
- 12:18Speaker 1: I don't even remember his name, Michael Meyer. If I
- 12:21Speaker 1: had to pick one, I would pick Tarrek Woolan cornerback.
- 12:25Speaker 1: And I don't even really know what the trade would entail.
- 12:30Speaker 1: I don't know what I would give up if I
- 12:33Speaker 1: were quacy, we would make horrible GMS. We discussed that
- 12:38Speaker 1: a lot. We just sit around drink beer and talk
- 12:41Speaker 1: about the Vikings. But I think the cornerback position, the
- 12:46Speaker 1: secondary in general, safety and cornerback is a position that
- 12:49Speaker 1: wasn't really emphasized during the off season, and so this
- 12:54Speaker 1: would be the time to bolster that position group. And
- 12:59Speaker 1: that's why, knowing really nothing about Tarik Wollen or his
- 13:03Speaker 1: skill set, I would prioritize that over trading for a
- 13:09Speaker 1: tight end.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Yeah, so, listeners, I encourage you go check out the article.
- 13:13Speaker 2: We'll probably link it below on Viking's territory. But as
- 13:17Speaker 2: far as the tight end from Las Vegas, Michael Meyer,
- 13:21Speaker 2: which that's interesting, that's a terrifying name. He was saying
- 13:26Speaker 2: pretty much. He was a second rounder in twenty twenty three,
- 13:31Speaker 2: obviously before the Raiders selected brock Bauers as a first
- 13:35Speaker 2: rounder in twenty twenty four. So just last year brock
- 13:38Speaker 2: Bowers turned into arguably one of, if not the best
- 13:43Speaker 2: tight end in the NFL in twenty twenty four, So
- 13:46Speaker 2: I mean, you can't usurp that guy, even if you
- 13:49Speaker 2: do draft it. Did draft another guy in the second
- 13:52Speaker 2: round a year before, and since you drafted him in
- 13:55Speaker 2: the second round, he's probably got some good value, so
- 13:58Speaker 2: I would Thinkston also says it would make sense for
- 14:02Speaker 2: Meyer to be on the trade block, especially when we
- 14:05Speaker 2: have a high value guy that teams would definitely look
- 14:08Speaker 2: at and give you at least something for that was
- 14:11Speaker 2: drafted by a previous regime. Because the Raiders they got
- 14:16Speaker 2: new coach. Oh, what's his Pete Carroll? My goodness, I
- 14:20Speaker 2: can't believe I forgot that name. So yeah, it wouldn't
- 14:23Speaker 2: be absurd to think that Michael Meyer could be on
- 14:25Speaker 2: the trade block and could be moved. Dustin Baker puts
- 14:31Speaker 2: his prediction of a value of a trade as something
- 14:34Speaker 2: around like a fifth rounder. So the Vikings, I think,
- 14:38Speaker 2: traded away their fifth rounder for twenty twenty five, so
- 14:42Speaker 2: somewhere around that value or sorry, for twenty twenty six
- 14:45Speaker 2: is draft, so somewhere on that value. The Vikings are
- 14:49Speaker 2: looking okay draft pick wise. They're coming up on needing
- 14:54Speaker 2: to acquire younger, cheaper players, and an a reason that
- 15:01Speaker 2: the Vikings could make sense in trading for a tight
- 15:04Speaker 2: end is that tight end number two. What's his name?
- 15:11Speaker 2: My goodness, I can't believe names are totally escaping me
- 15:14Speaker 2: right now. You're trying tight end number two for the Vikings. Yes,
- 15:18Speaker 2: Josh Oliver. Josh Oliver, he is a pretty high priced
- 15:21Speaker 2: tight end number two. He's a really good blocker, pretty
- 15:24Speaker 2: high priced. But he's also going into the last year
- 15:27Speaker 2: of his deal, so it would make sense for the
- 15:30Speaker 2: Vikings to kind of fill that role a year before
- 15:32Speaker 2: they needed to with a guy who has a lot
- 15:34Speaker 2: of upside and could be on the move for not
- 15:37Speaker 2: terribly you know, too expensive. So I'd be okay with that. Honestly,
- 15:42Speaker 2: I'd never really heard of Michael Meyer before reading that
- 15:44Speaker 2: article today, but Dustin through his writing kind of kind
- 15:48Speaker 2: of convinced me of that. Tarik Woland I mentioned this
- 15:51Speaker 2: unrecorded conversation I had with Dustin Treik willand came up
- 15:55Speaker 2: the Seattle cornerback. He was one player that Dustin said,
- 16:00Speaker 2: because I kind of pressed him on that question, are
- 16:02Speaker 2: the Vikings done asking or done adding players? I was like, well,
- 16:07Speaker 2: what if they what if they did? Like, what if
- 16:09Speaker 2: they had to? He did mention Terry Quollen saying this
- 16:12Speaker 2: is a starter level cornerback, which that's that's a hot
- 16:16Speaker 2: commodity in the NFL and a guy that for whatever
- 16:19Speaker 2: reason doesn't seem to be well loved right now in Seattle.
- 16:24Speaker 2: He had he was a starter for them, and then
- 16:26Speaker 2: they got a new coaching staff, They got rid of
- 16:29Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, got a new coaching staff and kind of
- 16:34Speaker 2: missed time and was pulled from the starting lineup for
- 16:37Speaker 2: a little bit. And I don't think he was injured,
- 16:39Speaker 2: but he's still pretty good. And for that reason, Dustin
- 16:43Speaker 2: Baker kind of guessed his trade value as something like
- 16:47Speaker 2: like the Vikings would give up like a third for
- 16:50Speaker 2: Tarik Wolan and maybe like a fifth or a sixth
- 16:53Speaker 2: as well. Coming back to the Vikings, and like you mentioned,
- 16:57Speaker 2: the Vikings didn't do too much in the way of
- 17:00Speaker 2: developing that cornerback room. One big move they made was
- 17:04Speaker 2: re upping with Byron Murphy for a while, which was
- 17:07Speaker 2: a solid move and can't be forgotten. But it's also
- 17:09Speaker 2: after Byron Murphy, you've got some potentially decent players behind him,
- 17:15Speaker 2: with Blackman coming up, my goodness, what is his name?
- 17:21Speaker 2: Mackay Blackman, who was looking to be pretty decent and
- 17:24Speaker 2: then got towards ACL about a year ago. But he's
- 17:27Speaker 2: healthy now and could be decent. And then you got
- 17:30Speaker 2: another couple of guys that could be okay, but nobody's
- 17:32Speaker 2: proven outside of Barren Murphy.
- 17:35Speaker 1: There was the somewhat splashy acquisition of Jeff Okuda.
- 17:39Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah for sure. But even him, like, that's
- 17:41Speaker 2: another guy that was Wasn't he like the third overall
- 17:44Speaker 2: pick a few years ago, I've high potential but hasn't
- 17:48Speaker 2: really done anything.
- 17:50Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think right now in terms of the
- 17:53Speaker 1: depth depth chart for the cornerback position, this is a
- 17:59Speaker 1: tweet from will Gets from about a month ago now,
- 18:02Speaker 1: April twenty sixth Makai Blackman, Isaiah Rodgers, and Byron Murphy
- 18:07Speaker 1: are kind of your top three corners, and then after
- 18:11Speaker 1: that it's a toss up between Dwight mcleothern, Cheff Okudah,
- 18:15Speaker 1: Tavier Thomas, and then you have a bunch of I'm
- 18:18Speaker 1: assuming most of these guys are undrafted free agents. Khalif no,
- 18:24Speaker 1: Khalif FILESI didn't he come from the Browns, Oh maybe?
- 18:28Speaker 2: I don't.
- 18:28Speaker 1: Think he's a second or third year player from Cleveland.
- 18:31Speaker 1: Ambry Thomas, Reddy Stewart, Keenan Garber, and Zamo Ambry Thomas.
- 18:36Speaker 2: He's the guy that I think he even started a
- 18:38Speaker 2: couple of games a year or two ago with the
- 18:40Speaker 2: forty nine ers, so oh yeah, but still, I mean,
- 18:43Speaker 2: not a high profile name by any means, But yeah,
- 18:45Speaker 2: there's a lot of potentially okay guys in that room,
- 18:48Speaker 2: but nobody who's actually proven to be pretty good. And
- 18:52Speaker 2: you could even argue Byron Murphy Junior, he's he's edged
- 18:56Speaker 2: the line of not awesome, but also sometimes he flashes
- 19:01Speaker 2: and is really good. And last year was his career year.
- 19:04Speaker 2: He made a Pro Bowl handful of picks, definitely earned
- 19:08Speaker 2: the contract extension that he got. But still that's not
- 19:14Speaker 2: every play that he's proving to be that way. So
- 19:17Speaker 2: adding another starter level player, I think Terry Coollen's like
- 19:21Speaker 2: six' four as, well so pretty solidly huge guy and
- 19:26Speaker 2: adding that to arguably one of the best defensive coordinators
- 19:29Speaker 2: in THE, nfl you couldn't complain about, That and for
- 19:34Speaker 2: a couple of, PICKS i wouldn't be too upset about adding.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Him but, Again dustin wasn't saying that will happen or should,
- 19:40Speaker 2: happen just that it wouldn't be a bad. Move it's
- 19:43Speaker 2: one that if it did, happen we should all be happy.
- 19:45Speaker 1: About, yeah and just kind of taking a quick glance
- 19:48Speaker 1: At Tyrek wollen in his. Career his best year was
- 19:53Speaker 1: his rookie. Year he was a pro bowler and he
- 19:57Speaker 1: was third in the Defense rookie of The year. Voting
- 20:02Speaker 1: he had six interceptions his rookie, year started all seventeen. Games,
- 20:10Speaker 1: YEAH i don't know that you can really argue with
- 20:12Speaker 1: that style line that's a pretty good. One the next two,
- 20:17Speaker 1: seasons it looks like he missed a game or. Two
- 20:22Speaker 1: appeared in sixteen games in twenty, three fifteen games in twenty,
- 20:26Speaker 1: four started fifteen games in twenty, three and fourteen games
- 20:31Speaker 1: in twenty, Four so he wasn't even a starter in
- 20:36Speaker 1: all of the games that he appeared in the last two.
- 20:39Speaker 1: Seasons so he's definitely he's a fringe guy For, seattle
- 20:43Speaker 1: at least in the last two. Seasons his rookie year
- 20:47Speaker 1: was the. Best BUT i don't, know you can't argue
- 20:53Speaker 1: with six picks and then five picks the following two
- 20:58Speaker 1: seasons combined to his sophomore season and three last, year.
- 21:04Speaker 2: That's a.
- 21:05Speaker 1: LOT i, mean if you can if you can get
- 21:07Speaker 1: two or three picks a, year you're playing solid at your.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Position SO i still stand pat with WHAT i.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Said, sure the tight end, position getting somebody Like Michael
- 21:23Speaker 1: meyer could be. INTERESTING i think The vikings are fine
- 21:29Speaker 1: at depth at that. POSITION i think The vikings have
- 21:31Speaker 1: a lot more question marks at that cornerback, position and
- 21:36Speaker 1: they may have more guys right now on the whatever
- 21:40Speaker 1: what is, it ninety.
- 21:43Speaker 2: Ninety one with the international. Spot, yeah so.
- 21:46Speaker 1: There might be more cornerbacks on the roster, currently but
- 21:50Speaker 1: once you get into the SEASON i kind of subscribe
- 21:53Speaker 1: to The Mike zimmer philosophy that you can never have
- 21:57Speaker 1: too many defensive backs.
- 21:58Speaker 2: Yep like you need those guys m and you need
- 22:01Speaker 2: a lot of.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Them you need depth at that, position and you need
- 22:05Speaker 1: good guys at that. Position it's a passing, league so
- 22:08Speaker 1: if you're going to have if teams are gonna invest
- 22:11Speaker 1: a lot in quarterbacks and wide, receivers then teams should
- 22:16Speaker 1: also invest a lot in positions to defend. Those and
- 22:21Speaker 1: that's why you've seen. This you, know it's not a,
- 22:26Speaker 1: resurgence but this like this overwhelming edge, rush you, know
- 22:33Speaker 1: thing like the edge rush, domination we could call. It
- 22:39Speaker 1: those are players that are trained to go after the. Quarterback,
- 22:42Speaker 1: yeah like that's that's what they. Do and then you've
- 22:45Speaker 1: got safeties and corners that are sitting in the backfield
- 22:50Speaker 1: analyzing what the quarterback does and covering the wide receivers
- 22:54Speaker 1: and picking the ball.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Off so, YEAH i think the one THING i agree
- 23:00Speaker 2: with everything you just, said BUT i think the one
- 23:01Speaker 2: thing that should be most pointed out is you can't
- 23:04Speaker 2: have too many defensive. Backs you can't have too many.
- 23:06Speaker 2: Cornerbacks and The, vikings you could, argue have some, potential
- 23:12Speaker 2: but not really only one decent. One and, yeah anytime
- 23:17Speaker 2: you can add more depth and more value at that.
- 23:19Speaker 2: Position i've heard before that cornerback might be the second
- 23:24Speaker 2: most important position in football after core, turback so And
- 23:30Speaker 2: i'd be hard pressed to argue with that. Idea but,
- 23:32Speaker 2: YEAH i think either of those players would be good
- 23:34Speaker 2: for the. Team and either, WAY i think This vikings
- 23:37Speaker 2: team in twenty five is going to be pretty exciting to.
- 23:39Speaker 2: Watch so what do.
- 23:42Speaker 1: You think about this new award that they're going to be.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Offering oh, yeah coming up at the conclusion of the
- 23:49Speaker 1: twenty five twenty sixth, season The.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Protector of The. Year, yeah this is really. Cool so,
- 23:55Speaker 2: basically it's an official award honoring supposedly the best offensive
- 24:01Speaker 2: lineman in THE nfl because outside of being A Pro
- 24:06Speaker 2: bowler or the the you, Know ALL nfl team Or
- 24:11Speaker 2: All pro, team there's not really like you're never gonna
- 24:14Speaker 2: see even if he's the best center in the history
- 24:20Speaker 2: of football and the best player on any field in THE,
- 24:23Speaker 2: nfl you're never going to see that guy ever win AN.
- 24:26Speaker 2: MVP i, mean you could make an argument that the
- 24:30Speaker 2: center for a team in one, year like if he was,
- 24:33Speaker 2: amazing was the reason they won all the. Games but,
- 24:36Speaker 2: like even if that were the, case he'll never win AN.
- 24:38Speaker 2: Mvp the best he'll get as A Pro bowl and
- 24:40Speaker 2: An All. Pro so This protector of The year award
- 24:44Speaker 2: is pretty. COOL i don't know exactly how they're going
- 24:46Speaker 2: to award. It i'm sure it's going to be a
- 24:49Speaker 2: vote of some sort between players. Coaches hopefully they leave
- 24:53Speaker 2: fans out of, it, because, honestly we say it all the,
- 24:56Speaker 2: time we're just a couple of. Dudes the, people the
- 24:59Speaker 2: fans that would be vot voting would be, Like, okay
- 25:01Speaker 2: my team's offensive. Lineman, Yeah i'm gonna vote for that.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Guy like they don't know, anything but, yeah it'll be
- 25:07Speaker 2: interesting to see how they vote for. It it is
- 25:10Speaker 2: nice to see that these linemen are going to get
- 25:13Speaker 2: specifically an award of their own to honor really good,
- 25:17Speaker 2: linemen because there are linemen that make or break games for.
- 25:21Speaker 2: Teams we've seen it before As vikings, fans oh for. Sure.
- 25:24Speaker 2: Yeah AND.
- 25:26Speaker 1: I think the work That quasi And koc have done
- 25:30Speaker 1: in this offseason proves that the battle is won or
- 25:34Speaker 1: lost in the. Trenches and they've made a pretty significant
- 25:39Speaker 1: investment in those trenches because they know the talent they
- 25:44Speaker 1: have in those skilled, positions they're going to bolster those
- 25:48Speaker 1: and they have bolstered those.
- 25:52Speaker 2: Trench.
- 25:52Speaker 1: Positions and now This vikings team is looking on paper
- 25:57Speaker 1: to be pretty, formidable should.
- 25:59Speaker 2: Be actually in the. TRENCHES i, mean you got they
- 26:01Speaker 2: signed four, guys two on, offense two on, defense and
- 26:04Speaker 2: then drafted a first round pick at guard slash. Tackle.
- 26:08Speaker 2: Yeah they The vikings have definitely, proven like you, said
- 26:12Speaker 2: that they agree with an award like this just by their.
- 26:15Speaker 2: Moves and who do you think who would you put
- 26:20Speaker 2: up for A viking deserving of this kind of.
- 26:23Speaker 1: AWARD i, mean we haven't seen the two guys on
- 26:29Speaker 1: offense or the two guys on defense play in purple. Yet,
- 26:32Speaker 1: sure SO i have to go with somebody THAT i,
- 26:35Speaker 1: know somebody that has. PLAYED i think for me right,
- 26:39Speaker 1: now it would probably be a tie Between brian O'Neill
- 26:44Speaker 1: Or Christian. Darisa, yeah for, sure a Healthy Christian darisaw that.
- 26:49Speaker 1: Is BUT i mean if you get both of those guys,
- 26:53Speaker 1: healthy look, out.
- 26:56Speaker 2: It's a scary offensive line for The. Vikings, yeah and
- 26:59Speaker 2: not to tain't too, much but this isn't going to
- 27:01Speaker 2: be a. TANGENT i think people are under selling how
- 27:06Speaker 2: much how Significant darrisaw's injury is and how long he's
- 27:10Speaker 2: going to be an event going to be. OUT i
- 27:13Speaker 2: think a couple of weeks, ago The vikings posted or
- 27:16Speaker 2: he posted on social media like him working out and you,
- 27:19Speaker 2: know doing athletic. Things but that's a low pressure. SITUATION
- 27:25Speaker 2: i still think we should fully expect to not See
- 27:28Speaker 2: christian darris until at least halfway through the, season which
- 27:32Speaker 2: puts a lot of pressure On Donovan, jackson the rookie
- 27:35Speaker 2: first round. Pick puts a lot of pressure on what's his,
- 27:39Speaker 2: Name justin's, school one of the earlier free agent tackles they,
- 27:44Speaker 2: signed and they've they've made some other moves, Too but,
- 27:48Speaker 2: YEAH i think This protector of The. Year i'd agree with.
- 27:50Speaker 2: YOU i think so far my pick would Be brian
- 27:52Speaker 2: O'Neil at this moment for The. Vikings there are many
- 27:57Speaker 2: high quality linemen throughout the. LEAGUE i Think Dion dawkins
- 28:02Speaker 2: for The bills was one of the guys that was
- 28:03Speaker 2: pretty instrumental in getting this award to, exist and he'd
- 28:09Speaker 2: be another a good guy to earn the. Award it'd
- 28:12Speaker 2: be hard to argue against. Him, Again Dustin Based Dustin
- 28:16Speaker 2: baker wrote an article about this On Vikings territory dot
- 28:19Speaker 2: com and he pointed out The Lane johnson for The
- 28:24Speaker 2: eagles would be a good award. Winner also this first year's.
- 28:30Speaker 2: Award it's probably it shouldn't but it'll probably take into
- 28:34Speaker 2: account like the careers of some GUYS i. Think in the,
- 28:37Speaker 2: Article dustin points out That Trent williams for the forty Nine,
- 28:41Speaker 2: ers he's been a feels like multiple decade stalwart on
- 28:46Speaker 2: offensive line play in THE, Nfl so he might be
- 28:49Speaker 2: one that just gets it no matter what because he deserves.
- 28:52Speaker 2: It but, YEAH i think we could see with the
- 28:56Speaker 2: way The vikings have built up their offensive line in
- 28:59Speaker 2: the next few, years sometime in the next few years
- 29:01Speaker 2: A viking earn an award like, this at least get
- 29:04Speaker 2: A Pro. Bowl, yeah and that would be that'd be pretty. Cool,
- 29:07Speaker 2: Yeah i'd be all For it'd be pretty.
- 29:09Speaker 1: Awesome, well it's about time those offensive linemen got some
- 29:15Speaker 1: recognition for the hard work that they, do because they
- 29:18Speaker 1: really don't get a lot like They there's there's never
- 29:22Speaker 1: been in my, memory any sort of Like Offensive player
- 29:26Speaker 1: of The YEAR mvb, award anything that's that's gone to
- 29:31Speaker 1: a player in that.
- 29:32Speaker 2: CATEGORY i feel like the opportunities for offensive linemen to
- 29:36Speaker 2: get recognition is if they get A Pro, bowl or
- 29:39Speaker 2: if they get something like An All pro, honor and
- 29:44Speaker 2: then definitely if they'd get elected into The hall Of.
- 29:47Speaker 2: Fame so you basically need to be the best offensive
- 29:50Speaker 2: lineman that has ever played football to be honored at.
- 29:56Speaker 2: All it's kind of interesting whereas you could, be you,
- 29:59Speaker 2: know running back with one halfway decent year and earn you,
- 30:03Speaker 2: know m V p and get on The madden cover
- 30:07Speaker 2: and everybody, remembers, Oh peyton hillis from The browns that one,
- 30:10Speaker 2: Time like not That Peyton hill has GOT. Mvp but
- 30:14Speaker 2: still you're never gonna see an offensive lineman get m V.
- 30:16Speaker 2: P it's not an award for, them, really they can't
- 30:19Speaker 2: really earn. It, Yeah i'm a proponent of this. AWARD
- 30:24Speaker 2: i think it'll be.
- 30:25Speaker 1: NICE i would like to do something THAT i do
- 30:28Speaker 1: somewhat frequently on the.
- 30:29Speaker 2: Show, no, ACTUALLY i don't do that on. Air we've
- 30:35Speaker 2: probably recorded a few of your farts. Before now we
- 30:38Speaker 2: may not have released, it it's not.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Published BUT i would like to do something THAT i
- 30:43Speaker 1: definitely HAVE i have done, Before AND i would like
- 30:45Speaker 1: to quote the great Movie.
- 30:47Speaker 2: Moneyball oh, great it's not that. Good it's pretty. Good
- 30:52Speaker 2: it's pretty. Good, okay what are you gonna? Quote what's?
- 30:56Speaker 2: This this awe inspiring quote From Brad? Pitt. PITT i
- 31:01Speaker 2: think he was just Like Brad. Pitt that's WHAT i.
- 31:03Speaker 2: Think and there's no shame in. THAT i think he
- 31:06Speaker 2: does a pretty good. Job he's a beautiful. Man come,
- 31:10Speaker 2: on we're both thinking.
- 31:11Speaker 1: It, yeah he looks. Great but he says at one
- 31:16Speaker 1: point in the, movie at this, point if a ground
- 31:22Speaker 1: ball is hit to first, base there's nobody there to
- 31:24Speaker 1: stop it from. Rolling and, like THAT'S i think that's
- 31:29Speaker 1: kind of the character that he was supposed to. Play
- 31:32Speaker 1: it was just this kind of no, nonsense, like, well
- 31:34Speaker 1: of Course i'm going to prioritize the. Team AND i
- 31:38Speaker 1: THINK i think it's kind of the same thing with offensive,
- 31:41Speaker 1: Linemen like at this, point like Unless Will fries is,
- 31:45Speaker 1: there you, know fill in the, gap there's nobody that's
- 31:48Speaker 1: gonna stop the opposing defensive lineman from sacking the.
- 31:53Speaker 2: Quarterback.
- 31:54Speaker 1: Yeah SO i think the sentiment applies.
- 31:59Speaker 2: Whether or not you like the. MOVIE i think it
- 32:02Speaker 2: definitely it. TRANSLATES i would venture to say that if
- 32:07Speaker 2: we put a poll out there and ask people if
- 32:10Speaker 2: they Liked moneyball or, not or if they Thought moneyball
- 32:13Speaker 2: was a really good, movie not just like fine to,
- 32:15Speaker 2: watch but like a really good, movie most people would say.
- 32:18Speaker 1: NO i think in the sports, CATEGORY i Think moneyball
- 32:21Speaker 1: has to be most in most people's top.
- 32:23Speaker 2: Ten we will have a segment one day we will
- 32:29Speaker 2: talk about. That today is not the day BECAUSE i
- 32:31Speaker 2: want to be prepared for. That if you, REMEMBER i
- 32:34Speaker 2: kind of did a segment like that specifically about football
- 32:37Speaker 2: movies with the guys on The mainstream. PODCAST i do
- 32:40Speaker 2: recall back In. January, shoot it's been a, while but,
- 32:44Speaker 2: Yeah moneyball will not be On watch it be my
- 32:47Speaker 2: number one watch me just rock The Edans world here
- 32:51Speaker 2: and Save moneyball is the. BEST i.
- 32:52Speaker 1: Won't you're gonna go home and watch it and you're
- 32:54Speaker 1: gonna be, like, wow that's a life changing.
- 32:56Speaker 2: Movie i've seen. It i've seen it and it's. Fine
- 32:58Speaker 2: you've seen it. Once, yeah that's all you need to.
- 33:00Speaker 2: See don't Watch moneyball more than, once, listeners you can like.
- 33:05Speaker 2: It i'm. Sorry what's your favorite sports? Movie, OH i,
- 33:08Speaker 2: Know i'm too on the. Spot, honestly there's not a
- 33:11Speaker 2: lot of amazing sports. Movies they're all kind of cheesy to,
- 33:14Speaker 2: me just off the top of my head without thinking
- 33:17Speaker 2: about it too. Much Remember The titans has got to
- 33:19Speaker 2: be right up. THERE i could quote most of that. Movie. Yeah,
- 33:23Speaker 2: oh and we've done. It we probably quoted that movie
- 33:25Speaker 2: to each other throughout our. Lives it's a.
- 33:28Speaker 1: Classic it is left side strong, side all.
- 33:33Speaker 2: Right, well speaking of strong, things The vikings' odds to
- 33:37Speaker 2: win The Super bowl as they sit right Now Memorial
- 33:40Speaker 2: day twenty twenty, five are a lot stronger now than
- 33:43Speaker 2: they were this time last. Year this time last, year
- 33:46Speaker 2: at the same, time The vikings were plus eight thousand
- 33:50Speaker 2: to win The Super, bowl, which if you don't, bet
- 33:54Speaker 2: BASICALLY i Hope i'm going to say this. Right i'm
- 33:57Speaker 2: a very very minor amateur sports. BETTER i don't Think
- 34:02Speaker 2: i've made a sports bet in many, months but to
- 34:05Speaker 2: be plus eight. Thousands so if you were to put
- 34:09Speaker 2: one hundred dollars on The vikings to win The Super
- 34:12Speaker 2: bowl this time last, year and if they had gone
- 34:14Speaker 2: on to do it with those plus eight thousand, odds
- 34:17Speaker 2: your payout would have been eighty one hundred. Dollars right,
- 34:21Speaker 2: now The vikings odds according To DraftKings is plus three,
- 34:28Speaker 2: thousands so they're much better odds right, now or the
- 34:33Speaker 2: payout would be. Less but they're highly, regarded much more
- 34:36Speaker 2: now than they were this time last. Year we're gonna
- 34:39Speaker 2: do it for the third. Time. Now we're gonna point
- 34:41Speaker 2: you guys to A Vikings territory. Article this one is
- 34:45Speaker 2: from this time last, year though it was The vikings
- 34:49Speaker 2: compared to similar, teams are similarly ranked teams according to
- 34:56Speaker 2: the sports, books with similar odds to win The super
- 35:00Speaker 2: at that, Time SO i THINK i just mouthful butchered
- 35:03Speaker 2: that whole. Thing but, anyways this article That i'm talking
- 35:06Speaker 2: about from last year compared The vikings to some other
- 35:10Speaker 2: teams That vegas thought had similar odds to win The Super.
- 35:14Speaker 2: Bowl at that, time the other teams were The, cardinals The,
- 35:17Speaker 2: raiders The, saints and The. Seahawks so a year, Ago
- 35:21Speaker 2: vegas thought The vikings and those four teams had similar
- 35:24Speaker 2: odds to win The Super. BOWL i THINK i finally
- 35:26Speaker 2: got that that point. Across it did, Great it did.
- 35:29Speaker 2: Great SO i thought it'd be cool to kind of
- 35:31Speaker 2: look at that article and then see how those other
- 35:34Speaker 2: teams did in twenty twenty five compared to The vikings
- 35:38Speaker 2: and then kind of look at where The vikings are
- 35:42Speaker 2: are ranked according To Vegas odds right now and other,
- 35:47Speaker 2: similarly you, know ranked teams according To, vegas and how
- 35:51Speaker 2: we think that'll turn out this coming. Year what do
- 35:54Speaker 2: you think about? That, well let's start with last.
- 35:57Speaker 1: Year so last, year The vikings at this, point you,
- 36:00Speaker 1: know post most of the off season, acquisitions, trades free,
- 36:08Speaker 1: agency the, draft The vikings were plus eight. Thousand other
- 36:14Speaker 1: teams at plus eight, thousand where The, Cardinals, raiders And,
- 36:17Speaker 1: saints and then slightly better was The. Seahawks The cardinals
- 36:23Speaker 1: finished eight and.
- 36:24Speaker 2: Nine.
- 36:25Speaker 1: Yeah last, year The raiders finished an abysmal four and. Thirteen,
- 36:29Speaker 1: yeah The raiders got their coach fired last. Year, yes
- 36:32Speaker 1: The saints finished slightly better at five and, twelve and
- 36:35Speaker 1: The seahawks did okay at ten and, seven but.
- 36:38Speaker 2: The seahawks were close to making the. Playoffs none of
- 36:41Speaker 2: the other four, teams, well none of the teams on
- 36:43Speaker 2: this list last year other than The vikings made the.
- 36:45Speaker 2: Playoffs So vegas was right about those.
- 36:47Speaker 1: Guys but this is a classic scenario of one of
- 36:52Speaker 1: these things is not like the, other and that is The.
- 36:54Speaker 1: Vikings The vikings were fourteen and. Three The vikings won fourteen,
- 36:58Speaker 1: games four more than any other team on this, list
- 37:02Speaker 1: and significantly more than most. Teams, yeah sometimes double or.
- 37:07Speaker 1: More in, fact in the case of The, raiders they
- 37:11Speaker 1: had an almost inverse. Record, yeah. Exactly The raiders were
- 37:15Speaker 1: four and. Thirteen The vikings were fourteen and. Three, like
- 37:20Speaker 1: it was a tale of two, teams you. Know it
- 37:24Speaker 1: was this kind of ying and. Yang it was, this you,
- 37:27Speaker 1: know hot or not type of, thing and The vikings
- 37:31Speaker 1: were the hot team last.
- 37:32Speaker 2: Year AND.
- 37:35Speaker 1: I don't, KNOW i feel like we talked about this
- 37:38Speaker 1: going into last. Season The vikings were a much better
- 37:41Speaker 1: team than people gave them credit. For, YEAH i was
- 37:44Speaker 1: pretty high on The vikings lie they were. DOWNPLAYED i
- 37:47Speaker 1: wasn't as high on them as you. WERE i didn't
- 37:50Speaker 1: expect as much out Of Sam donald as we. Got
- 37:53Speaker 1: but holy, buckets did we get a ton out Of Sam.
- 37:56Speaker 1: Donald and it wasn't Just Sam, donald it was the defense.
- 38:00Speaker 1: Too the defense played lights. Out, yeah the defense kept
- 38:04Speaker 1: that team in games at certain points throughout the.
- 38:07Speaker 2: Season so.
- 38:10Speaker 1: It's interesting to look back on that and, Think, wow
- 38:14Speaker 1: The vikings were plus eight thousand to win The Super
- 38:16Speaker 1: bowl In May june of twenty twenty, four and they
- 38:22Speaker 1: went fourteen to, Three, yeah and made the playoffs and
- 38:28Speaker 1: could have probably made a better run at things had
- 38:32Speaker 1: things turned out.
- 38:33Speaker 2: Differently oh. YEAH i, mean if the lights weren't too
- 38:37Speaker 2: bright For Sam darnold in those final two, games The
- 38:39Speaker 2: vikings should have gone a lot. Further but should it could,
- 38:43Speaker 2: have would. Have they didn't actually win any playoff, games
- 38:48Speaker 2: same as The lions that they didn't win any actual
- 38:50Speaker 2: playoff games, Either so this The vegas was kind of. Right,
- 38:57Speaker 2: ultimately The vikings didn't win The Super bowl again for
- 39:01Speaker 2: the sixtieth year in a row or, whatever And vegas
- 39:04Speaker 2: was right about. That SO i do think it's interesting. Too,
- 39:08Speaker 2: currently BECAUSE i looked at The vikings current, odds the
- 39:12Speaker 2: way they sit and their plus three. Thousand of The, Saints, Seahawks, Raiders,
- 39:17Speaker 2: cardinals And, vikings The vikings are by far and above
- 39:21Speaker 2: The vegas favorite of that list of teams to win
- 39:27Speaker 2: The Super bowl as things sit right. Now so a year,
- 39:30Speaker 2: later those five teams that were all pretty similarly viewed
- 39:35Speaker 2: are now very much differently. Viewed The seat and The
- 39:38Speaker 2: saints right now are dead last according To, DraftKings dead
- 39:43Speaker 2: last in THE nfl to win The Super, bowl, which
- 39:46Speaker 2: when YOU'RE qb one was already injured and then abruptly
- 39:49Speaker 2: retires out of, nowhere that's pretty fair to, say, like,
- 39:53Speaker 2: ah you don't have a, plan and it's not like
- 39:55Speaker 2: they had a good plan behind him outside of what
- 39:58Speaker 2: a second, rounder third. Rounder but currently The vikings are
- 40:02Speaker 2: plus three, thousand and similarly ranked teams are The, Chargers, Broncos,
- 40:08Speaker 2: buccaneers and interestingly The. BEARS i think The bears are
- 40:13Speaker 2: getting a lot of help In vegas by the view
- 40:17Speaker 2: of their brand new head coach who's supposed to be
- 40:19Speaker 2: much better than their last, one WHICH i agree, with
- 40:23Speaker 2: and another year Under Caleb williams Belt on top of
- 40:27Speaker 2: what should be a better defense than last. Year The,
- 40:31Speaker 2: BUCCANEERS i don't really. KNOW i mean they Have Baker.
- 40:35Speaker 2: Mayfield their team's. OKAY i could see them being ranked
- 40:38Speaker 2: similarly to The. Vikings the Broncos Mo knicks is the
- 40:42Speaker 2: reason his decent rookie, year AND i think they made
- 40:45Speaker 2: the playoffs last. YEAR i could see them being ranked.
- 40:48Speaker 2: Similarly and The Chargers you've got what should be a
- 40:52Speaker 2: healthy Justin herbert and a really good coach In. HARBAUGH
- 40:57Speaker 2: i can also see them being similarly, ranked and The
- 41:01Speaker 2: vikings are they'd be ranked fourth on that list of
- 41:05Speaker 2: five teams there as of right, NOW i think The,
- 41:08Speaker 2: Vikings i'm still super high on. Them right now they
- 41:12Speaker 2: will go the way OF jj, McCarthy which it's a
- 41:15Speaker 2: lot of, unknowns BUT i think he's gonna be. Good
- 41:17Speaker 2: and then you can't you can't bet Against kevin O'Connell right,
- 41:20Speaker 2: now the REIGNING nfl coach of the. Year so what
- 41:24Speaker 2: do you think should The vikings be with those other?
- 41:26Speaker 2: Teams should they be?
- 41:27Speaker 1: Better?
- 41:28Speaker 2: Worse what are your thoughts right? NOW i think it's
- 41:31Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty.
- 41:31Speaker 1: SPLIT i think there are two teams on this list
- 41:34Speaker 1: that The vikings are definitely like equivalent, to if not
- 41:40Speaker 1: either like slightly inferior or slightly.
- 41:44Speaker 2: Superior. Took and then there.
- 41:47Speaker 1: Are two teams on this list THAT i think are
- 41:49Speaker 1: definitely Like, no there's no there's no, conversation there's no
- 41:55Speaker 1: question The vikings are better than these. Teams and it
- 41:59Speaker 1: could be somewhat of a hot, take BUT i think
- 42:02Speaker 1: The vikings are patently better than The bears at this.
- 42:05Speaker 2: Point, YEAH i. Agree at this, point there's a lot
- 42:07Speaker 2: of unknowns with The. Bears there's more unknowns for them
- 42:10Speaker 2: than there are for the correct and a lot.
- 42:12Speaker 1: Will be figured out in that week One monday night
- 42:15Speaker 1: football game against The bears in the first game of
- 42:19Speaker 1: the regular. Season BUT i still think on paper at this,
- 42:25Speaker 1: point The vikings are the better team going into that.
- 42:27Speaker 1: Matchup SO i think the plus three thousand for The
- 42:31Speaker 1: vikings and the plus thirty five hundred for The bears is.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Accurate AND i would maybe push The bears down a
- 42:39Speaker 1: little bit farther on that, list just because there's more
- 42:43Speaker 1: to prove for them and there's less to prove for The.
- 42:46Speaker 1: Vikings the core of The vikings is still very much.
- 42:50Speaker 1: Intact there's a new, quarterback there's a few new offensive,
- 42:54Speaker 1: linemen there's a new running. Back but other than, that
- 42:58Speaker 1: like The vikings core is pretty much the, same and
- 43:02Speaker 1: it's just new, guys you, know throwing throwing the ball
- 43:06Speaker 1: To Justin, jefferson throwing the ball to T. J, hogginson
- 43:10Speaker 1: a couple of new guys up front. Blocking you add
- 43:13Speaker 1: a dynamic running back To Aaron, jones who's already proven
- 43:19Speaker 1: to be.
- 43:19Speaker 2: Great no matter where he, is as long As shones
- 43:22Speaker 2: can hold up at his.
- 43:23Speaker 1: Age but, yeah if he can stay. Healthy BUT i
- 43:27Speaker 1: think the other team on this list that is a
- 43:32Speaker 1: question mark at this, POINT i think is The. Bucks
- 43:37Speaker 1: And i'm not just going purely by numbers. Here The
- 43:41Speaker 1: chargers And. BRONCOS i think both did they make the
- 43:45Speaker 1: playoffs last? YEAR i think they, did let.
- 43:49Speaker 2: Me look it up for. SURE i know The broncos.
- 43:51Speaker 1: DID i know The broncos, did and they kind of
- 43:53Speaker 1: made it in like they were one of the last
- 43:55Speaker 1: teams in the Play, yeah.
- 43:56Speaker 2: They were one that in the last week they needed
- 43:58Speaker 2: to win and then have a no team or.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Too and if The chargers didn't make the, playoffs The
- 44:03Speaker 1: chargers were still a good team and The chargers are
- 44:06Speaker 1: led By Jim harbaugh With Justin herbert with a decent
- 44:13Speaker 1: core of players around. THEM i think The chargers And
- 44:17Speaker 1: broncos are just. DIFFERENT i think they're built differently than
- 44:21Speaker 1: The bucks and The. Bears and The chargers did make the,
- 44:25Speaker 1: playoffs they lost to The texas in the wild card. Row,
- 44:28Speaker 1: okay so again it's another classic scenario of one of
- 44:33Speaker 1: these things is not like the, other but in this,
- 44:35Speaker 1: instance two of these things are not like the. Other
- 44:39Speaker 1: The bucks and The bears did not make the. Playoffs
- 44:41Speaker 1: The chargers and The broncos did make the, playoffs so
- 44:45Speaker 1: did The. VIKINGS i like the three playoff teams to
- 44:50Speaker 1: make the playoffs, again AND i like the two teams
- 44:54Speaker 1: on this, list The buccaneers and The, bears that did
- 44:56Speaker 1: not make the playoffs last, year to follow suit and
- 45:00Speaker 1: not make the playoffs.
- 45:01Speaker 2: Again, Interesting and WHILE i fully agree with, You i'm
- 45:05Speaker 2: also reminded THAT i don't know exactly what it, is
- 45:08Speaker 2: BUT i think every year there's something like four teams
- 45:12Speaker 2: every year on each conference that didn't make the playoffs
- 45:16Speaker 2: last year that go on to make the, playoffs which
- 45:18Speaker 2: tells you there's also four teams that did make it
- 45:21Speaker 2: that don't go on to make, it so there's always some.
- 45:24Speaker 2: TURNOVER i think that's one of the best things about THE.
- 45:26Speaker 2: Nfl you can finish third in your division one year
- 45:29Speaker 2: and then go to The Super bowl the next. Year you,
- 45:32Speaker 2: know like there's a lot of. Parody it feels like every,
- 45:35Speaker 2: team unless you know you're The lions for the last
- 45:39Speaker 2: fifty five sixty, years it feels like every team has a,
- 45:43Speaker 2: chance especially when it comes to late In. May you,
- 45:45Speaker 2: know everybody's, undefeated everybody just had the best offseason of the,
- 45:49Speaker 2: world everybody's. Healthy your first round pick is going to
- 45:52Speaker 2: be A hall Of, famer you know all that. Stuff so,
- 45:55Speaker 2: yeah as of, NOW i tend to agree with. YOU
- 45:57Speaker 2: i think The vikings are definitely better than The. Bear
- 46:00Speaker 2: who's the other team that you said that they were
- 46:01Speaker 2: patently better Than broncos or, Sorry. Buccaneers The bears and The,
- 46:06Speaker 2: BUCCANEERS i could see, that and then The. BRONCOS i
- 46:10Speaker 2: feel like The vikings are at least tied with The.
- 46:12Speaker 2: BRONCOS i think they have an edge with their current.
- 46:16Speaker 2: COACH i Know Sean, Payton he's won A Super, bowl
- 46:21Speaker 2: so just right. There as far as careers, go he's
- 46:24Speaker 2: better Than koc right now as far as careers, go
- 46:27Speaker 2: if you look at the whole. Picture but as far
- 46:29Speaker 2: as things sit right, NOW i think The vikings AND
- 46:32Speaker 2: koc AND jj. McCarthy and, AGAIN i know it's absurd
- 46:36Speaker 2: to SAY jj McCarthy is better than Bo nicks right
- 46:39Speaker 2: now because Bo nicks has a full year of starting
- 46:42Speaker 2: experience under his belt in THE nfl and proven, success
- 46:45Speaker 2: WHEREAS jj had a couple drives in a preseason game
- 46:48Speaker 2: and then sat the year ON. IRE i totally get
- 46:51Speaker 2: that What i'm saying is, absurd BUT i THINK jj
- 46:54Speaker 2: McCarthy is still better Than. Bnicks so, YEAH i agree with.
- 46:58Speaker 2: You definitely better than The buccaneers and The, bears and
- 47:02Speaker 2: at least tied with The. Broncos and Sure i'll give
- 47:05Speaker 2: the edge to The. Chargers that's the way things sit right.
- 47:07Speaker 2: NOW i think The vikings are better than all four
- 47:12Speaker 2: of those. Teams you could get me to agree with,
- 47:15Speaker 2: that but just quickly glancing at, it, Yeah i'm comfortable
- 47:20Speaker 2: with WHAT i just. Said that's.
- 47:22Speaker 1: Fair there's only one way to find, out and that's
- 47:25Speaker 1: to play the.
- 47:25Speaker 2: Game play the. Games see what. Happened you can't argue
- 47:28Speaker 2: with win. Loss you can, say, oh, well this guy was,
- 47:30Speaker 2: injured or oh if it wasn't for that one, interception who.
- 47:33Speaker 2: Cares it's the only thing that matters is wins and,
- 47:36Speaker 2: losses and the only thing that really matters Is Super
- 47:39Speaker 2: bowl wins and. Losses and currently The vikings are completely
- 47:44Speaker 2: defeated when it comes To Super bowl. Wins so hopefully
- 47:48Speaker 2: this year's the. Year if, not, hopefully next year is
- 47:51Speaker 2: the year we will get. THERE i believe sometime in
- 47:55Speaker 2: our lifetime and sometime in this current, regime The vikings
- 47:59Speaker 2: will make it to A Super bowl before before it's
- 48:03Speaker 2: all said and.
- 48:03Speaker 1: Done, well of those four, teams The vikings only play
- 48:09Speaker 1: two of. Them of, course The vikings play The bears
- 48:12Speaker 1: twice they always do because they're in the same. Division
- 48:15Speaker 1: and then The vikings play at The Chargers thursday night
- 48:21Speaker 1: Football Octagowa county.
- 48:23Speaker 2: Third, yeah that'll be a tough game, too going going
- 48:26Speaker 2: TO la or that part of the country is always.
- 48:28Speaker 1: Tough, yeah going west is hard for Any midwest Or
- 48:33Speaker 1: East coast. Team going west as. Hard and The chargers
- 48:38Speaker 1: ARE i think are a formidable. Team so you've Got
- 48:40Speaker 1: Jim harbaugh, There you've Got Justin herbert there like there's
- 48:45Speaker 1: there's that's a force to be reckoned, WITH i. Think
- 48:48Speaker 1: and they made the playoffs last, year AND i don't
- 48:52Speaker 1: know that there was a lot of changeup in The
- 48:56Speaker 1: chargers between last year and.
- 48:59Speaker 2: They can't give any you, know crazy. Moves they should
- 49:02Speaker 2: still be Patent lee the same team basically as they
- 49:06Speaker 2: were last. Year harbaugh's a good. COACH i, mean obviously
- 49:12Speaker 2: he's made it to at least, one if not Multiple Super.
- 49:15Speaker 2: BOWLS i don't think he's won, one BUT i think
- 49:18Speaker 2: the one he lost was against his. Brother he's a good.
- 49:21Speaker 2: Coach he's won national. Championships he was pivotal in the
- 49:25Speaker 2: college development OF jj. McCarthy i will always be A horrba, fan,
- 49:30Speaker 2: frankly Both harbaugh's And i've only Said harbaugh BECAUSE i can't.
- 49:34Speaker 2: REMEMBER i think It's Jim gym's In La, Johnson, baltimore,
- 49:39Speaker 2: RIGHT i think that's. Right but, yeah all this, again
- 49:43Speaker 2: it's gonna be a good. Season and it's fun to
- 49:45Speaker 2: think that The vikings are looked at as a, contender
- 49:49Speaker 2: whereas this time last year it was, like, ah, yeah The,
- 49:51Speaker 2: Vikings they're gonna win six and a half seven games
- 49:54Speaker 2: and then, boom they doubled. It. YEAH i think The
- 49:57Speaker 2: vikings are finally going into a season with a a
- 50:00Speaker 2: little bit of. Respect hopefully they can back that up and,
- 50:03Speaker 2: again like we've said a thousand, times that all goes
- 50:06Speaker 2: that all goes WITH jj and hopefully he can turn
- 50:10Speaker 2: into something. Good so one other thing that's not really
- 50:14Speaker 2: on our list to talk.
- 50:15Speaker 1: About, man we've been kind of taking a peek at
- 50:19Speaker 1: it here the entire time we've been recording this. Episode
- 50:23Speaker 1: The timberwolves are playing In game four of The Western
- 50:28Speaker 1: Conference finals right. Now they're currently losing ninety nine to
- 50:32Speaker 1: ninety four to The Oklahoma City. Thunder but what's your?
- 50:37Speaker 1: Prediction do they make it out of game four? Here
- 50:42Speaker 1: do they tie it up to?
- 50:43Speaker 2: TWO i? Hope so it'd be awesome if we could
- 50:47Speaker 2: know that before this episode's done. Recording that might be
- 50:51Speaker 2: a stretch, though because we're winding down towards the end
- 50:53Speaker 2: and there's still nine minutes of basketball. Left, yeah ninety
- 50:57Speaker 2: nine ninety. Four The timberwolves In game three just completely
- 51:01Speaker 2: embarrassed The. Thunder it was a throttling and you can't
- 51:08Speaker 2: really take a lot of pride in that because the
- 51:10Speaker 2: two games before it were basically throttlings against The timberwolves
- 51:16Speaker 2: From Oka. See So i've said it a thousand. Times
- 51:20Speaker 2: i'm not an elite basketball. Mind i'm really just a
- 51:24Speaker 2: fair Weather timberwolves. Fan we just saw a major collision
- 51:28Speaker 2: THAT i think somebody's in a. Foul but, Yeah i'm
- 51:35Speaker 2: hoping they come, back they win this game for tie
- 51:39Speaker 2: up the series and go on to win the. SERIES
- 51:43Speaker 2: i just want to see A big Four minnesota team
- 51:47Speaker 2: in a. CHAMPIONSHIP i think we talked about it last
- 51:50Speaker 2: week late In glodek tweeted something, like this is the
- 51:53Speaker 2: fourth time in my Lifetime i'm, seeing you, know A
- 51:56Speaker 2: Minnesota big four team make the conference. CHAMPIONSHIP i just
- 52:01Speaker 2: want to see someone in the championship BECAUSE i, think
- 52:05Speaker 2: again i'm not an elite basketball. MINE i Think i've
- 52:07Speaker 2: heard basically if The timberwolves win this, series they should
- 52:11Speaker 2: be favored to win the win the finals because this
- 52:15Speaker 2: series is going to be harder than either of the
- 52:17Speaker 2: two teams that they would play The is it The
- 52:19Speaker 2: pacers and The? Knicks pacers And knicks yet and, again
- 52:23Speaker 2: not to disrespect The pacers Or, knicks BUT i think
- 52:26Speaker 2: Okay see is by far and above the best team
- 52:28Speaker 2: in the playoffs right, Now let's just do. It come, On,
- 52:31Speaker 2: timberwolves win this, game win the, series go on and
- 52:35Speaker 2: win four in the, championship and bring it home embarrassed
- 52:39Speaker 2: The vikings and light a fire under every Other big
- 52:42Speaker 2: four team In minnesota by winning a.
- 52:45Speaker 1: CHAMPIONSHIP i definitely have, hope but they're definitely the. Underdog
- 52:51Speaker 1: AND i think you said, it, Okay see is definitely
- 52:53Speaker 1: the better. Team they've proven. That the first two games
- 52:56Speaker 1: were kind of embarrassing for The. Timberwolves those first two
- 53:01Speaker 1: games were also on the, road and the first home
- 53:05Speaker 1: game in the series was a drubbing and that was
- 53:08Speaker 1: fun to fun to. See and they're at home again
- 53:12Speaker 1: here in game. Four it's a tough. Game it's a
- 53:16Speaker 1: really close game right. Now they've been trailing most of the.
- 53:20Speaker 1: Game it's been.
- 53:20Speaker 2: Close, yes as things sit right, now it's ninety six
- 53:24Speaker 2: to one oh. ONE i think if they win this,
- 53:26Speaker 2: game if The timberwolves win this game in a close,
- 53:29Speaker 2: fashion that kind of proves that they belong with The.
- 53:33Speaker 2: Thunder thunder a good team sixty eight and fourteen throughout the.
- 53:38Speaker 2: Season you don't do that by. Accident you don't win
- 53:41Speaker 2: most you, know win almost seventy games in THE nba by,
- 53:44Speaker 2: accident and they had THE mvp And shaye what's his,
- 53:48Speaker 2: Name Shade Gilgess Alexander. Sga, yeah if The timberwolves go
- 53:53Speaker 2: on to win this close, game then they should be
- 53:56Speaker 2: in it with The thunder for the rest the. Series
- 54:01Speaker 2: and they've proven they can blow them out at home
- 54:05Speaker 2: if they're going to win this and then hopefully win
- 54:07Speaker 2: one In. Okay see that that just proves you can do.
- 54:12Speaker 2: It SO i want. IT i want it. BAD i
- 54:14Speaker 2: think Most minnesota sports fans want it. Bad come, on
- 54:18Speaker 2: let's just do, it just get it. Done what do
- 54:21Speaker 2: you think of this? Beer this beer for me is cashing.
- 54:25Speaker 2: Checks this is really. Good it's a darker, one so
- 54:29Speaker 2: not one that you probably want to drink in every single,
- 54:31Speaker 2: occasion which is weird to say about a, logger because
- 54:34Speaker 2: usually a lagger like yeah, yeah Bud, Light, Yeah I'll
- 54:38Speaker 2: i'll drink. That ANYTIME i think Bud light's a. Logger
- 54:41Speaker 2: there might be a, PILLSER i don't, know but it's
- 54:43Speaker 2: a dark. Lagger it's got a lot of nice, flavor
- 54:47Speaker 2: not trying to be more than it is or anything
- 54:50Speaker 2: other than what it. Is it's just a good. BEER
- 54:52Speaker 2: i like it a. Lot what do you, think Spot,
- 54:55Speaker 2: On it's a great.
- 54:56Speaker 1: Beer it's got some nutty flavored to, it WHICH i
- 55:01Speaker 1: think is kind of reminiscent of the beer that we
- 55:03Speaker 1: brewed just a couple of months. Ago it's not a
- 55:08Speaker 1: beer that messes. Around it's not trying to pretend to
- 55:11Speaker 1: be something that it.
- 55:12Speaker 2: Is. Not like you, Said i'm gonna have to seek
- 55:15Speaker 2: this one out And i'm gonna have to get another.
- 55:17Speaker 2: ONE i got it at our Favorite Devil's glenn Hy.
- 55:20Speaker 2: Vee it's a good. One, yeah absolutely. WELL i think
- 55:26Speaker 2: this was a pretty good.
- 55:27Speaker 1: EPISODE i thought we had some good, talkers everything from you,
- 55:32Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen next year to what could happen
- 55:37Speaker 1: still before next year even.
- 55:39Speaker 2: Happens, yeah, yeah like we kind of covered it. ALL
- 55:42Speaker 2: i enjoyed. It it was. Good and here in the
- 55:46Speaker 2: next handful of, WEEKS i think it's Usually, july we'll
- 55:49Speaker 2: have our game by game prediction and we should during
- 55:52Speaker 2: that episode kind of go back to twenty four and
- 55:54Speaker 2: see how RIGHT i, was BECAUSE i KNOW i was
- 55:56Speaker 2: pretty right in most of the, games and also know
- 56:00Speaker 2: recap the quarter in the hopefully you. Don't you don't
- 56:03Speaker 2: put your beer in your your, quarter in your beer,
- 56:06Speaker 2: again like in my beer in my? Quarter all? Right, well,
- 56:11Speaker 2: yeah great great, episode really great, beer best episode, yet Skull.
- 56:19Speaker 3: Yeah m h m hmmm, yeah h.
- 56:31Speaker 2: M h.
- 56:33Speaker 3: M hmmmmmmmmmm mmm.
- 56:54Speaker 2: Mmmmm can we do the just looking at the camera high? Five,
- 57:03Speaker 2: no dang, it switch the one. Rule, yes that was pretty.
- 57:08Speaker 2: Good that was that was pretty. Good h