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The Dolphins BET on Jeff Hafley: New Coach, New Power Structure, New Era? | Fish Tank LIVE 1.21.26 · The Fish Tank: Miami Dolphins Tales From The Deep

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[SPEAKER_05]: you're now diving into the fish team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Fish Tank Live, presented by Fan Hornlog, and Casabella Design Group Seth Levitt right here in the Casabella Design Group Studios, and I am with the only live podcaster to lead the national football league and receptions and bowl of perfect game, and he also happens to have won an Emmy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is Ocean McDuffie Juice!
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Wednesday night, man, we're lost.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's show time, big stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I appreciate you not putting those 2, 2, 99s in there on my bowling record.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying about one thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But now that you brought it up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, you know, I'm glad you let me bring it up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Instead of you, you know, trying to pull it out of you, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean because, you know, those are the most two most frustrating nights in my life, you know, when you get those opportunities to get a perfect game and, and you, you know, you leave a nine in a solid 10 pin, you get nine in a solid
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[SPEAKER_03]: at the end, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a rough day, bro, but that's how I appreciate it, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what's the idea, no, big set for we move on to everybody else in the dust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't think I've ever broken 200.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got, you know, I got to close it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I don't know, the answer is probably no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm a better bull.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm a better bull.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a better buller than I was a baseball player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let me jump in real quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's last on my bold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I forget the score, but I beat O.J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: McDuffy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where's the evidence?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where's the proof?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a lot of pictures, including you clicking me off with the scorecard up there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you've already been when I was bulletin at half the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, did it happen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to get noticed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that voice you hear is of course Chad Van Horn, the heart and soul of Van Horn Law Group.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk to Chad a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll talk to Chad all night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't talked to him since there's been major changes in Pittsburgh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we definitely want to check in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We thought you were ducking that or at least trying to, you know, I agree to sleep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're grateful that you're here tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, the legendary Savak always with us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he is Sun Sentinel columnist, the host of Dolphins deep dive with Perk, the man with the greatest internet, this side of the Mississippi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is just working.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gentlemen, the Miami Dolphins have a new head coach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How are we feeling about it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Perk will start with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel good because it looks like the GM John Eric Sullivan feels good about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what I mean by that is when he had the chance to talk to Sean McDermott, he didn't flinch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He stayed with his boy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think that that makes me feel a little bit better now, look.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know John.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know John Eric Sullivan made a call or sent a text to Sean McDermott's
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it appears that he was convicted with his boy Jeff Haftly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've been together for the last two seasons in Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If someone feels good about it, I'm going to feel good about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's as far as I can go right now because they're both first time guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Sullivan has earned your trust to that point, perk that if he feels good, you feel good, or you just like the idea that he zeroed in on somebody and didn't wait at Waffle and Pivot and get excited about the bright shiny object.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the second one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he appears to have shown conviction in his choice so that gives me some more confidence in the decision that he made.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whether it's good or not, we'll wait and see, but it appears that Sullivan has confidence in the man that he chose.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, it's, it's, I was thinking about this too, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you know, I get where those two are coming from.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, when it comes to John Eric Sullivan, you know, and, and halfway, like, it's like you go on to, you know, produce it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, an Emmy award winning fist tank iconic, and you don't bring juicelome did I be messed up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can you now bring juicelome just you know, just so I get one just, you know, from, you know, for having my name in the credits, big dog, you know, that's why you, when you got your buddy that, you know, it's got this gig and y'all been buddies for a minute.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it happens all the time in sports, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But also though, we always talk about relationships when it comes to GM and hate coach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of times down here, Perk, you know this, they force relationships on people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: People that don't really know each other that well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've had a GM, then we get a hate coach, have a hate coach, then we gotta go get a GM.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's never been like one of the same coming together the same time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that that synergy right there could be to prove positive for us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we also know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: We all should know this, at least that green basement doing it right, you know what I mean for, you know, they've been doing it right for a long time, and I think that, you know, you've got that type of pedigree and that type of track record, I think it's important that we try to explore it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, and keep that synergy with somebody you know, and we'll see what happens right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, what I'm sensing is that you guys, it's not necessarily that you are excited or feel good about Jeff Haffley and not saying that you don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is more of the idea that you're trusting the process, you like the way the decision was made, and you like that there's an alignment between GM and head coach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, right, right, and we've done it so many other ways big stuff, and we've been on here how many weeks now doing this live show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Last week, I think we talked forever about at one point about just having somebody with experience,
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have me thinking, you know, we should go with Schuley, which I really thought was gonna be a, you know, a good move to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But same time though, bottom line is that we have to, and let me backtrack one second because for me, I've been going through this shit all year now, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: In terms of looking for head coaches, Penn State did the same thing, you know, and I was on a campaign, you know, head coach, synergy blah blah blah, and what they did was they brought in a great head coach in Matt Campbell, who I didn't know much about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: but they kept my man Terry Smith that gives us that connection with Penn State that was important to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the fact that we do have a first time hit coach is, you know, it's something that we did not want, but at the same time though, when you've got a, a guy that's been, you know, in terms of a GM that's been around for a long time and working with this guy, halfway, I think it's important that they do have that synergy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, I'm a wait and see kind of guy now, man,
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, I'm just, hey, we'll see what happens when it happens.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it wasn't college without, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, if you gotta lose a record at Miami or Alabama, something like that, just be like, oh, that dude was terrible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, Boston, college.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody beat the brick wall of Boston college.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, that's exactly how I feel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, let me say this, too, Seth, because when Drew talks about the synergy, that's what I'm in favor of the apparent synergy between these two guys, Seth, when you talk about the process,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure that the process was any good, because look, look at it like this that might make Daniels should have been fire on Monday morning, black Monday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was still around there on Thursday, and if you listen to Darren Waller talk,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mike McDaniel wanted to bring Walmart back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you had Mike McDaniel, a 500 coach, wanted to bring back a 30-fear-four-year-old Titan who missed half the season with injuries, what had really changed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, it turned out that they did the right thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they changed GM and hit coach, and we presume quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm not too sure about the process of you contact 11 people, and you what interview 10, and a committee of seven, like how many dolphins does it take to change a damn white ball?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not so sure about the process here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm relying on this synergy between half Lee and Sullivan to kind of carry the thing through initially.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Perk, I don't know how many exit interviews are telling the guy, yo, you trash bro, whatever you bring you back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, this is it for you to find another team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're looking elsewhere.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Some of them, I mean, maybe a couple guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got fired over the phone, so I don't know what how that hell that works.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's only down hard, although.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're a good company.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and somebody dropped a letter at Joe paternal's house, so it's like, yo, they ran and kicked out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so I'll sit up and it's like that, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I hear what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I hear what you're saying, part, um,
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[SPEAKER_03]: In terms of, and honestly, that Monday press comes to Mike McDaniel, told us a lot, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, it told us nothing, but it was like, he felt good about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then for, we had a clip of his buddy on last week, talking about how he got blindsided, stabbed him in the back or whatever it might have been.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know what the, but I think I want to do a great job of seeing who else got canned first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean in my opinion,
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[SPEAKER_03]: How many of you guys think that hardball might have waited for that Buffalo job if you knew it was coming available.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean, I think that's a better gig for him than the giant's gig.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, setting came down to evaluate and quarterbacks, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They said he was watching tape of Jackson Dart and he was watching tape of Kim Ward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I imagine if you'd watch some tape of Josh Allen that that right is, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly right, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, oh, so we held on as long as we could, man, but you got to, you got to pull the trigger at some point, man, I think that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they, they, they waited long enough to make the fire, but then again, perp, like you talk about the process of making the hiring is been crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so that's interesting too, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I saw there's been some heat after Waller told that story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's been some heat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw Levittard kind of went off, but I don't know how you fire someone, but this isn't the right way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, well, you guys put off by that story, like I don't know what that, maybe because he said he kicked the door in, which I think that was just for a fact that was great story tell.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't imagine Stephen Ross kicking the door in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, but I mean, I'm going to put in that bill that he would be glad to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You were broke his leg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He would have broke his damn leg.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He puts on the pike in shorts and gets after him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you see it, maybe he just takes the pictures.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the point that I am making me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The point where I am trying to make here is like, first of all, that's his damn building, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's his building and his team and literally billions with a B dollars have been spent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it kick in every damn door that he wants to pay good money for the right to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's number one, but number two, it's like, I don't know what the reaction is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He there were no statements.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody ripped the shit out of him for his statement the previous year, which I didn't have a problem with because what it did is it ended all speculation you might not like the decision, but you knew right when the season ended these guys are going you're going to ride with them again cool we did that and then the next year there was none of that so no whatever comfort that Mike McDaniel felt
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[SPEAKER_00]: publicly that comfort didn't exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That, you know, there were no guarantees.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're clearly, they knew they were interviewing general managers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And none of those guys, I have to imagine, we're told you've got to take Mike McDaniel, which was what everybody's fear was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody was critical that, here he goes again, it's going to be another half-assed process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's going to force somebody, well, he wasn't forced on anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then something happened, whether it was him sitting down with multiple GM candidates
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[SPEAKER_00]: That ain't the guy, whether it was Troy Ackman who said, do you remember what I said on my football?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I meant it, you know, whatever it might have been, he listened to all of that and then decided, like does he have to let his guy go on Thursday?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, on Monday or can he wake the Thursday?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see what the problem is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that McDonald was doing his job, which he told us, he was gonna coach
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[SPEAKER_00]: the Miami Dolphins until he was told that he wasn't the coach of the Miami Dolphins anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what he did, literally up until that moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what the problem was with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have a problem with that part of the process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually glad that like you said Jews take took their time and didn't make a rash decision one way or nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike McDaniel could have been fired after a Cleveland game, you know, if you really wanted to be serious here and be honest with yourselves, they waited until after the season, they waited until they started their process, they got the guy that they wanted to general manager.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Will he be the guy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll find out soon enough, but he was clearly highly regarded as an up and coming star in the personnel decision making.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a thorough process, Chris said 11 interviews, 11 requests, 10 interviews and 7 people in the bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty damn funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, it was thorough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just as I indicated last week had wished they had taken a little bit more time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to see there's two really good candidates and now three, but two, what I think really good candidates, first time candidates, that are gonna be playing in division championship games or a conference championship games partially because of how good of a job those guys are doing at coaching their respective sides of the ball, I would have liked to have seen that process carried out, but if they believe going back to Chris Perkins' point of conviction, if they believe that the guy was halfway,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then they got him before somebody else could get him because imagine if that's the guy they wanted and then he ended up coaching the Tennessee Titans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, and halfway how many interviews it half we have Chris?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, Mike, I think Mike just had us, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Mike only interviewed pretty much with the Dolphins.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but halfway he's got, there's a lot of interest when we got a lot of interest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've got to have interest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and follow a request, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, you were going to come back for more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So something tough in that first one was intriguing that we want to hear a little bit more about you, or whatever you got, floss you eyes, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sure, I hope there was no two of questions in this interview that says, about, you know, what are you going to do with this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's in a serious, you know, like Mike, Mike got his job because he was a guy that was going to bring two of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, he did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He fixed two or four a little while until he was too broken physically, I think, and mentally, honestly, to be able to be out there effectively for the football team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He did what he said he was going to do, as long as he could do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what the interesting to find out was, was he brought in to fix to a or to show us what we have with to a?
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[SPEAKER_00]: because like we don't know, we know the guy we just let go couldn't stand was willing to get, was willing to do the Cleveland Browns of the Son Watson deal to get rid of Kua Tonga by Loa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how badly he wanted him out of here and we don't know what we have because we drafted the guy and we think there's something there and Mike McDaniel, I will say to his credit, he showed you what the absolute ceiling was for to a Tonga by Loa and then Mike
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they can, you know, the problem is they gave me $200 million contract somewhere between those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that that was, you know, I wonder, was he brought in a fixum or was he brought in to really show what he had with him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll also say, you know, I was reading, I think who, Michael Livia, looks like, is there ever a good time to fire someone?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, a good time to fire someone is before he ruins your franchise any longer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the right time to fire him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he said, why make them work a 10 hour day, for those of you who don't know this and OJ McDuffy certainly knows this, they will cut a guy that they know that you are on a cut, they'll let, and when I say they, anybody in the national football league, they'll get another practice out of them, they'll make sure, hey, if we don't let this guy, if we know it 10 a.m.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that we need to cut somebody, but we have practiced at two, let's let's get through the unless they're worried about an injury deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we need that extra lineman, you know, we can't afford to be down a lineman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need these reps, we need, and they'll have a guy go out there and bust his ass for three hours.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's walking off the field, tell him to clean out his shit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's real business.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nice to business, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're nasty business, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, guys, you know, you know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why I get, you know, people talk about, you know, loyalty to teams.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no loyalty upfront, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, right, very few guys get the opportunity to decide when they want to leave this football game and most of the time it's unceremoniously when they let guys go, you know?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, when you look, we talk about that big set.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes they want to get guys out there to play to show that they're not hurt and practice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that, you know, get it on real and go get the money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, before the injury settlement or whatever, you know, it's guys this fool is he's fool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Go out here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talk about injury settlement, but then probably quarter their manhoods before that practice, too, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man, bro.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's it's bad man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's really bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's it's a dirty game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so for anybody talking about loyalty for players to team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: teams don't have loyalty to players most of the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Mike McDaniel showed a lot of loyalty to a lot of players.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Probably too much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, too much rare stuff right there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Perk, you know, this, you know, when we start off with two of us deal, we can talk about Tyreak being re-up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We can talk about Jamie Ramsey being re-up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, those are things that you don't see in the league and it crippled our team.
18:42
[SPEAKER_03]: It's crippling our team now.
18:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, a hard-ass coach that doesn't give a damn about you know anything.
18:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Jimmy want to get rid of Danny right away or owner wouldn't let it happen you know so you've got to really have a hard-ass coach that you know doesn't give a damn about players even though it sucks it's a nature of the business.
19:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Just real quick.
19:04
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about it seems like the trend is you go players coach to hard-ass coach.
19:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know Jeff Hathley, but obviously Mike McDaniel seemed to lean player coach.
19:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And now I think you're going to have a little more discipline.
19:19
[SPEAKER_01]: What is that a real thing that happens in the NFL?
19:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And it seems like you get, you get a boost for the first couple seasons at least when that happens.
19:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I want any coach that comes in initially to be a hard ass, Chad.
19:33
[SPEAKER_03]: be a hard ass because I always equated to being a kindergarten teacher.
19:37
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't be a nice kindergarten teacher the first week of school and then you know then you got the kids run our lower place then all of a sudden you got to be a hard ass kids ain't buying it you know I think the same thing has to happen when it comes to being a head coach you come in here as a hard ass have Jimmy Johnson had everybody on his you know I don't know if Danny Marino was on his my ass is on his and I was sitting I was leading receiver on the team
19:59
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, but people were on edge, everybody was on edge, you know, and then it kind of, that's how you go.
20:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, of course, they got his favorites, makes you the whole defense was a favorites, fucking offensive, this philosophy, but that's never talking about here, you know what I mean?
20:15
[SPEAKER_03]: But same time, no, you know, I think most defensive minded coaches, most DCs, they're hard asses already.
20:22
[SPEAKER_03]: offensive guys and we're, you know, offensive coaches, not players, you know, not players, offensive coaches, you're kind of soft with people, and I think that, you know, that goes throughout the whole locker room a lot of times.
20:33
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know what I'm saying, offensive coach, big sir?
20:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, a hard ass offensive coach.
20:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Kyle Shanahan is a hard ass offensive coach.
20:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he is, he is absolutely a mother-effer and he's an offensive mind in coach, but I think he's that dude.
20:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I really do.
20:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Savank, he's got something.
20:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Another great example.
20:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's another great point.
20:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a great point.
20:57
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a great goal school.
20:58
[SPEAKER_03]: He's old school like that too.
21:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I give him just saying, you know what I mean?
21:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, yeah, whatever, but mostly the defensive minor guys are the motherfuckers that are tough out there Right, because I said that's the toughest side of the ball obviously, man
21:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, right there.
21:18
[SPEAKER_03]: The ones you got it.
21:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You've got to rip dudes, man, so you know, I wanted to and this leads me into the thing that I wanted to have Go ahead, bird.
21:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead, bird.
21:26
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I was going to say, you know, to a dress chance point in juice.
21:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like swing between hard ass and players coach.
21:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like for a team to make a decision and stick with it is what I like about the happily thing and what I've been writing all week is that it's not about who they hire, it's about what he brings, and what they need is that mentality all throughout the organization.
21:55
[SPEAKER_02]: This organization is...
21:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to say that their paper soft all the way through, but they prioritize the wrong things.
22:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot prioritize being the number one offense in the league in 2023 and hand out contract extensions based on that.
22:13
[SPEAKER_02]: That bullshit.
22:14
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to be more solid.
22:16
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to be more focused.
22:18
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to have a concrete foundation and I hope that's what Hathley brings.
22:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't have to be a hard ass.
22:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You just have to have priority straight.
22:28
[SPEAKER_02]: No more participation trophies for the Miami Dolphins.
22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to celebrate playoff victories or else the season was not a success.
22:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know what I'm saying real quick, let me follow that up.
22:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, um,
22:43
[SPEAKER_03]: When you talk about hard ass coaches, I think when you have a coach that quote unquote, like I've got to talk about as a hard ass, you've got to have players that don't mind hard coaching.
22:52
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got that's what that's more when I'm talking about.
22:55
[SPEAKER_03]: If you because we all grew up with that, you look, look at my coach.
22:58
[SPEAKER_03]: My high school coach was not, he was a tough coach, but he never cursed at us, but he was tough coach.
23:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Then you did not got paterno, then I got shoela, then I got Johnson.
23:07
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
23:08
[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't like when I'm talking about a hard ass.
23:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I got somebody that does they might not be, you know, mother fucking people right by the same time know they're not they're willing to rip somebody, you know, and you got to have players that are willing to be that have to that understand they're going to get ripped if they mess up and they still got to go out there and perform.
23:28
[SPEAKER_03]: So like
23:29
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a kind of coach that I want out there, man, because that's the one you grew.
23:32
[SPEAKER_03]: But don't go out there, bottom line is go out there and do your job and you won't, you have to won't have to feel the wrath of these guys.
23:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's it, right?
23:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Like being in charge and being a great leader and being a disciplinary and doesn't necessarily mean you have to come out and MF people.
23:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, certainly those things sometimes all are aligned, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you have to, and that leads me to the thing that I wanted to bring up.
23:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
23:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
23:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm going to bring this up in a second, but I want to ask Perk a question about it first.
23:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So Travis Wingfield had John Eric Sullivan.
24:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the only person that's had him here locally.
24:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And all of the writers wrote about that interview.
24:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great interview.
24:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It was interesting to learn a little bit about John Eric Sullivan.
24:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought Travis did a great job.
24:13
[SPEAKER_00]: But all the writers wrote about it and they make sure to call it an in-house interview Perk.
24:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to talk about something that he said that I found was interesting in the interview.
24:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But tell me why it was so important.
24:24
[SPEAKER_00]: for all of the writers, and I felt like some of them, some of them just said it, I guess, so we knew that it was put out by the dolphins, and some of them said it, but there was a little bit of a hint of why the hell isn't he been made available to the rest of us.
24:39
[SPEAKER_00]: So can you shed some light on that as a guy who spends every waking moment in the press room?
24:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you say in house because there are certain issues that weren't addressed like two of them, right?
24:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And in house doesn't want to address those types of things, so you make sure that people know that this was a brother-in-law job, right?
25:02
[SPEAKER_02]: That, you know, hey, week week.
25:04
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to ask you some things that make you uncomfortable.
25:15
[SPEAKER_02]: unhappiness, I would say pissed off at this, because that is that in term, because they do provide their own news narrative before we can do it.
25:28
[SPEAKER_02]: But look, that's the way of journalism nowadays, that's the way of teens, right?
25:32
[SPEAKER_02]: They have their own websites, they have their own social media, they want to define the narrative, they don't want to leave it.
25:40
[SPEAKER_02]: to journalist.
25:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's why they allowed their guy to have the first interview.
25:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we know what John Eric Sullivan thinks in his own words on a platform that's friendly to him.
25:52
[SPEAKER_02]: He can tell us, you know, who he thinks the poor players are all of that.
25:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not people firing questions at him and questions that might not be favorable.
26:02
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the chance for him to express himself
26:05
[SPEAKER_02]: and let you know who he is kind of on his terms as opposed to perhaps being defensive at times.
26:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
26:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I got most of it.
26:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I do look forward to seeing how you all handle tomorrow when we when he is uh both John Eric Sullivan and said, you know what I said, you got most of it.
26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I got most of it.
26:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't I'd be lying if I said, I got all of it, but I did get most of it, but I wanted AOL.com.
26:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But in that interview, he was asked what he looks for, what he'll be looking for in a head coaching candidate.
26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought his answer was really interesting, because he's like, look, I'm the son of a coach, and first of all, a coach has to be a great teacher, and a great communicator.
26:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And he talked about being an expert in the field, both on the field and off the field in the rules, so that you have an advantage over teams that don't have an expert on the field or off the field.
27:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And that you can take advantage of teams that make mistakes.
27:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can take both mentally and so,
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: it was it was interesting to hear those answers and that there was a clear cut like there's the haves and have knots and I think I can recognize who they are.
27:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Now the proof will be in the pudding and we'll see if he picked the guy that does but I thought that that shed some light on what we're going to see with Jeff Hathley because when you heard
27:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, look, Dolphin fans, including myself, there was a, I guess a tinge of disappointment if not some other silliness and his haircut and the whole thing.
27:43
[SPEAKER_00]: But you heard about a guy who was a great communicator.
27:46
[SPEAKER_00]: You heard about a guy who's players played for him.
27:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You heard about Richard Sherman spoke very highly of him.
27:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Mike a Parsons had nice things to say.
27:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and Mike, because, Mike, as a guy who speaks his mind, if he had some issues, I think we might have heard it.
28:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I, you know, I'm really interested to see what we get and I've gotten past whatever disappointment I have.
28:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, look, this had coach of the team that I cheer for the team that I talk about the team that I cover.
28:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So at this point, he's got our back juice, right?
28:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Like half of these are guy until he isn't.
28:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know he has an opportunity to prove it, but I really thought that if you go back and listen to that in-house interview that John Eric Sullivan does shed some light on the type of of coach that he's looking for in addition to just the type of players that he was looking for.
28:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
28:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, that's to me and Seth, that's how we're going to roll, man.
28:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I think no matter what, you know, you really got to take the worst in the coaches.
28:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, from the players that, you know, that have been around him.
28:45
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, how about, but sometimes you can't, though.
28:48
[SPEAKER_03]: How bad did our guys talk about about your boy and Philly right now?
28:52
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
28:53
[SPEAKER_03]: The DC and Philly.
28:55
[SPEAKER_03]: And then look at him.
28:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, hell, when the soup bowl and then comes back and then they're back in the playoffs and probably shouldn't want another football game or defense to stellar.
29:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Granted, now, this defense was bomb ass.
29:07
[SPEAKER_03]: They had a great defense.
29:08
[SPEAKER_03]: But the same time, though, I'd like to hear from the players mostly about how they feel about guys.
29:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, and then then I can go from the rest because honestly, the player spend the most time with those dudes, you know, sometimes, you know, you got GMs that spend time with some of these coaches, but at the same time, no, what did they talking about a lot of times?
29:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, what are they talking about?
29:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, how was, you know, how was halfway, you know, we don't know how he's going to be in front of the whole team, because how often has he been in front of the whole team, but we don't know that stuff.
29:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
29:40
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know if he's actually a leader of men, but it's he looks like he is, you know, I'll care what he looks like.
29:46
[SPEAKER_03]: It looks like you don't fuck around.
29:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the kind of guy that I'd like him, you know, my teeth.
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Or that's just what the hardest.
29:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly right, and that's the kind of coach I would love to play for guys like that, man.
29:57
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, it's like we talked about early, man, it's definitely a wait and see thing.
30:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And I can't wait for tomorrow.
30:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be tuning in line for that tomorrow.
30:06
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I know that, I know that,
30:09
[SPEAKER_03]: that John Eric Sullivan, he's got some interesting views in my opinion, I think that's going to be the kind of guy that we're going to love as our general manager.
30:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And this thing too, man, right now, this is the time where they can go in there, honestly, and pick and choose who they want to keep around, because there's no allegiance to anybody in that locker room.
30:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Zero, least anybody in that locker room.
30:37
[SPEAKER_03]: So everybody's got to show him proof that they're the kind of players that they want to have on that football team.
30:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And I love that part about it, you know, you don't have the GM come being there.
30:46
[SPEAKER_03]: We might got there and all the other stuff that went on before.
30:49
[SPEAKER_03]: You got two new cats that are selected in the players with this football team.
30:52
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's going to be what we kind of, how they envision our football team should be.
30:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And what they've done in Green Bay, they know how to pick football players who know how to play the damn game.
31:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so and that leads me to another question that I have is and I think you know Steve was a Steve who just asked in there what about the offensive coordinator right he comes in as a defense of minded coach and he was at a system you know he was in green bay and heck we just had a coach that fell from that that shanty entry.
31:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, what are they going to do to build out their staff?
31:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is where the, because a lot of people felt, All right, John Irox Sullivan just went for his buddy, who he was with in Green Bay.
31:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I saw Jeff Darling to say, look, he was only with him for two years.
31:37
[SPEAKER_00]: John Irox Sullivan was in Green Bay for 30 years.
31:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He was only with Hathley for two years.
31:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's not act like they were, you know, this isn't McVay and Shula, where they played college ball together and have been with each other every step of the way.
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: They were only with each other for a couple of years.
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: but now okay great he was with him he felt he was a guy that makes sense they're aligned in the way they you know they've probably sat in rooms together and evaluated players together but now does every coach you know we're starting to see offensive coordinator candidate the offensive line coach of green bay didn't call plays and so maybe he can be thought like like i don't think everybody this doesn't need to be green bay's south
32:13
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to go get my liquids, I think we'll give that a shot.
32:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But everybody doesn't have to be from Green Bay.
32:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And Green Bay has been a successful program.
32:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And we wish we had the success of Green Bay.
32:25
[SPEAKER_00]: But they don't want to championship in a little while, either.
32:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't want one without Aaron Rogers.
32:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And how they couldn't win one with Aaron Rogers towards the end of his career.
32:34
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just think that everybody doesn't have to come from Green Bay, because if they do, then I start to feel like we do have some green and yellow colored glasses.
32:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, wait, wait, real quick, you haven't won a playoff game since Ogimic Duffy Laced it up.
32:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Since I worked for the team, yes, I agree.
32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: They have not so playoff games since I was in the P.R.
32:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So, so I think you guys should sign, sign Aaron Rogers and make a run.
32:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I'll leave that there.
33:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Chad, I mean, honestly, I mean, Aaron Rogers had your own 7 and last playoff runs and now he's going.
33:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, no, we'll pass on now with a hard pass from there, you know what I mean, so yeah, I mean
33:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, get to the playoffs, man.
33:19
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all I'm asking for right now.
33:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I asked for that every year.
33:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Just give me to the playoffs.
33:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, no, I'm asked for just a playoff win.
33:27
[SPEAKER_03]: And then next year, I'll ask for a playoff home game.
33:30
[SPEAKER_03]: And then next year, I'll ask for a playoff buy.
33:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the following year, I asked for a chance to the Super Bowl.
33:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the following year, I want to go win it.
33:38
[SPEAKER_03]: So I've got a game plan here, big set.
33:40
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's a success.
33:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Five-year plan, a ring.
33:44
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a process.
33:44
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, all right, just a process.
33:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going over the presser to moral juice?
33:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Hell no, I ain't going to press it now.
33:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not?
33:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, watch it live on TV.
33:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Purchase left for it now?
33:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he don't.
33:56
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a car's probably as fast as internet.
33:59
[SPEAKER_03]: But you might have to get going right now to get there.
34:02
[SPEAKER_00]: David Fernandez and I'm glad he writes for a living.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
34:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
34:07
[SPEAKER_00]: That was too.
34:09
[SPEAKER_00]: He just wants to make sure he's got that front road seat so he can ask the hard questions that the in-house interviewer said.
34:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna ask him that too.
34:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Perk, I got a question for you, Perk.
34:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad you're back.
34:19
[SPEAKER_03]: What about Perk?
34:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I got a question for you.
34:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you guys have like, do you have like seats in the press room where nobody sits in that seat?
34:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause they know that's Chris Perk and see that you got to get there to get it.
34:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, you know, I'm on a delay.
34:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
34:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of officially a success.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I'm on a, I'll answer for him.
34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So his, his H.O.A.
34:45
[SPEAKER_01]: president determines where he should.
34:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, it's going to happen.
34:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they have a lot more power than per every week.
34:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So, man, man, man, Omar sit right up front.
34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And we have a deal whoever gets their first guess.
35:00
[SPEAKER_03]: That you can't make it up, man.
35:02
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a bad part, man.
35:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there are seats.
35:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like the guy who gets to sit at the back of the bus.
35:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And like when you get on the bus and you're to new kid and you go sit on the back of the bus, the half seat where everything's a two or three-seater.
35:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's that one half seat and there's just a big dude who even though there's a school uniform.
35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the sleeves cut off like Chad, sons out, guns out.
35:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And no, everybody knows that's his damn seat.
35:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a little bit.
35:42
[SPEAKER_00]: appreciate.
35:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a little bit like that in the press room, but what I really think would be funny, and I wish Perk was here, not just here, but like all the way here.
35:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be really funny if somebody just came and sat down.
35:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember during hard knocks when they signed JPP and he sat in, what's the names do?
36:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, I'm drawing a blank now, the defensive band who blew out his knee covering the punt.
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, good, right.
36:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
36:09
[SPEAKER_00]: He sat and he comes into the meeting.
36:11
[SPEAKER_00]: He was a young guy, a J. P. P. He's in his seat and he's just sitting there and he's like, where the hell I go?
36:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's a little bit like that.
36:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, go sit and how have it's seat in the presser and things might get out of whack.
36:23
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're doing this.
36:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe like in the, I don't think they're doing it in the press room.
36:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think I'm being there, right?
36:29
[SPEAKER_03]: It's doing it doesn't have to be.
36:31
[SPEAKER_03]: But I was I was standing in the press room, you know, I think they're doing it.
36:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't have a seat in there.
36:35
[SPEAKER_03]: So I didn't go off in enough.
36:37
[SPEAKER_03]: to have a seat in there.
36:38
[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, I feel what you said.
36:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they, you know, it's a big, this big deal, right?
36:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, who's going to be pressing for this?
36:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Like no, of course, you know, I want to shit.
36:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell them in owner, Mr. Ross is going to be there, of course.
36:52
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not going to put him in a little press room, you know.
36:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's got to be, okay,
36:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be, I think it's definitely going to be, and I also think you have to make it that because it isn't.
37:07
[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't get Harba, right?
37:08
[SPEAKER_00]: If you had Harba, you could have done it in a shoe box and it would have been a big deal and it didn't matter.
37:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying they should have hired Harba.
37:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying.
37:16
[SPEAKER_00]: the fact that it is a name that people aren't throwing ticker tape parades for, it has to be a big, you know, I don't think they're going to have fireworks and all of that, but I do think you know, you're hiring a new head coach and actually when Mike McDonald was hired, they did it in the in the indoor facility as well if I'm correct.
37:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they did.
37:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So it makes sense.
37:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's on brand.
37:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, you're going to, I mean, if I'm the owner and I paid for this big, beautiful billion dollar building, don't stick me in the, in the shoe closet.
37:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So I, I get that as well.
37:46
[SPEAKER_00]: As Troy, I'm going to be there.
37:48
[SPEAKER_00]: That is a great question, Michael Livia.
37:50
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Troy, I can was brought on to consult for the GM search.
37:54
[SPEAKER_00]: did such a great job that they said help us out with the head coaching process as well.
37:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be interesting to see if he'll be there and then does that mean that we might see Troy around more.
38:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.
38:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
38:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
38:07
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think a lot of those guys that were involved, man, I mean,
38:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I know Perk talked about all the guys that were involved in the process.
38:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you do need a lot of input.
38:17
[SPEAKER_03]: You need so much input when it comes to these guys, you know, to flush out some of the stuff that's, you know, that's good and bad about some guys and what do you know about these people?
38:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
38:26
[SPEAKER_03]: If you rely on a couple of people to make the decision, I think it's not a very good idea.
38:31
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I mean honestly, that's why there's six to 12 juries in a, you know, when it comes to a criminal case, because you can't just count on two people to determine somebody's innocence or guilt, or, you know, the right person for a situation.
38:43
[SPEAKER_03]: So, oh, was that a reload?
38:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Relocating somewhere?
38:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, yeah, I relocated.
38:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not doing the backgrounds, so I'll tell you what that does.
38:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be really, he went to Starbucks nearby.
39:00
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a better move.
39:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate that person.
39:10
[SPEAKER_02]: They said I got to keep buying stuff, though.
39:15
[SPEAKER_03]: So I know.
39:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't find a day right there, per good job, right?
39:22
[SPEAKER_03]: It might be the background.
39:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It's unbelievable.
39:25
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is, I think every show, the first 15 minutes, we still need the old part because it's part of the, it's part of the, it's part of the, it is.
39:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we'll lose the part of the part.
39:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's a little bit of our magic?
39:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we made this way, yeah, we made that perk.
39:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody, a lot of people tune in for you, perk, for that kind of thing.
39:43
[SPEAKER_00]: The perk, if you show up tomorrow, and then there's just some geek media guy that writes for whatever, I don't know.
39:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say the wrong thing and defend the wrong person, but somebody who's not a regular, somebody who writes for your condos newsletter, right?
40:02
[SPEAKER_00]: If that person's sitting in your seat,
40:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how does Chris Perkins handle that?
40:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I just, I just stare at him for a while and just wonder, you know, don't you know who I am?
40:14
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, right in there.
40:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know who I am?
40:18
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
40:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
40:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
40:21
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, yeah.
40:22
[SPEAKER_02]: So, that's pretty much it.
40:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's unofficially a silent seat.
40:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, you just kind of give him a look and you kind of look around and there's a little tension in the room, but then it just passes.
40:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And who's in the front row?
40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Like tell us who's got, I want to know, Miami Dolphins media contingent, who's got the seniority prime seating front row?
40:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so starting from the far left, it would be Barry Jackson, then it would be how habit and Joe Shad on that side of the room.
40:53
[SPEAKER_02]: On the other side of the aisle, it would be me and then Omar and then Alan Cooper.
41:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And then in the back, in the second row, David Ferronis will sit in the second row, Isaiah Smalls from the money arrow.
41:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Kim would like to sit in the back of Marcel the we shot from ESPN likes to sit in like the third or fourth row.
41:17
[SPEAKER_02]: But always always like front and center so you're in the high line and you can talk over anybody.
41:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
41:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Real quick.
41:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Real quick says because I think the chat actually agrees with me on this.
41:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's done.
41:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's done.
41:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that they want to keep this at least publicly right now as a sheer consultants role, not as a role where he's eventually going to move into the front office and have some kind of spot like that.
41:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he does show up, does that say something?
41:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I think it does because it shows that he's more than a advisor, right?
42:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is an incident that you know, let these men have their sign.
42:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's Sullivan and happily have their sign of Troy shows up.
42:10
[SPEAKER_02]: He becomes a big part of the story all of a sudden.
42:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is Troy here instead of preparing for a playoff game or whatever?
42:17
[SPEAKER_02]: right fair enough and then and I this is the question I want to ask thank you Michael Livia from Dolphin talk if Dave hide shows up does someone get bumped out like where does hide sit based on that hierarchy oh you know what actually you know hide will sit in the front row idle squeeze into the front row like uh between Omar and poop hard up between me and poop hard so yeah it can get kind of crowded up there you know you gotta you gotta make yourself be
42:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Now I've heard of this.
42:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I said that it won't be in the media room.
42:48
[SPEAKER_03]: No, so it's going to be a little more room, right?
42:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
42:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
42:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
42:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
42:52
[SPEAKER_02]: They're having it in the bubble in the, uh, in the, uh, in the, the before firm.
42:56
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys are not the, you are the big nobody up per.
42:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to be nobody.
42:59
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, but you know, I'm, I'm a carry my second nickels just in case.
43:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Put red on the mugs, man.
43:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to throw that on.
43:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll make the handle the truth.
43:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I want to I want to get into what Jews did today, but before we do that, I know this is a dolphin show, but can we just talk about how overnight the buffalo bills have become the dumpster fire of the national football league like it is does anybody understand what the hell is going on over there?
43:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, and I, you know, I have love for, you know, the owner there.
43:41
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a, he's a Penn State guy.
43:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he built an amazing iceplex for our hockey team that got the number one player in hockey coming out.
43:48
[SPEAKER_03]: We gave him a nice NIO deal on the where the money came from, but I can only imagine the owner of the Buffalo bills and the Buffalo Sabers.
43:54
[SPEAKER_03]: He has a couple bucks in his pocket that could help it out.
43:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just watching his daughter Jess Goulou, you know, she's over in Australia It opened chicken low ass right now, too.
44:02
[SPEAKER_03]: So they you know, they've got it.
44:03
[SPEAKER_03]: They've got it going on, but man What's going on in Buffalo?
44:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely love it, Dick Seth.
44:09
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean finally somebody, you know Take the spotlight over our This function at times and let the buffalo bills handle that right there and it's it's been fun to watch
44:24
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like a very nice guy, but I don't know what the hell is going on there if they can't tell you doing what they're doing.
44:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I was trying to recruit you for us, you know, I'm allowed to do that.
44:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that, I'm not allowed to do that,
44:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if I was on the, I don't even know what you call it, but a buffalo take.
45:00
[SPEAKER_01]: They would be telling you guys that you are the dumpster fire.
45:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And the jets are the dumpster fire.
45:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they, what happened last week?
45:09
[SPEAKER_01]: No, 100%.
45:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were one crazy catcher way and juice can talk more about it.
45:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know the rules of the rules look like it catch under the rules, probably not a catch, whatever,
45:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And you guys want to be in that space.
45:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's where you want to be.
45:28
[SPEAKER_01]: No doubt.
45:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're tweaking things and they may get it right.
45:34
[SPEAKER_01]: They may get it completely wrong.
45:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they get it right.
45:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Coach, that ain't a tweak.
45:38
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
45:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big tweak because you have the MVP, one of the MVP and a league that is going to make you win eight games.
45:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if you have me coaching and I don't know what the hell I'm doing.
45:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so you have, you have a team that if they make the right decision, they can win a silver, if they make the wrong decision, it can be really bad, but you see it with New England right now.
46:03
[SPEAKER_03]: You talk about that catch interception.
46:07
[SPEAKER_03]: If that catch the catch, then they're going to the AC championship game.
46:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Dermond doesn't get fired.
46:12
[SPEAKER_03]: So what the side, that's how close they were to win and go into the AC championship game.
46:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm thinking now, he's that close to the AC championship game.
46:21
[SPEAKER_03]: How do you let him go in that situation?
46:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't disagree.
46:25
[SPEAKER_01]: It could significantly backfire, but that was the hottest job as you said earlier
46:31
[SPEAKER_01]: These other coaches should have waited longer potentially to get that job and maybe they do Maybe they don't but this one way or the other.
46:40
[SPEAKER_03]: This is gonna go either new England Patriots or it can go a different direction because 100%
46:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you are now a potential head coach and candidate for Buffalo and you watch that press conference and you sat there and then, you know, Terry McGoogle does the he does the chat van horn.
47:07
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, Brandon, can I say something real quick.
47:11
[SPEAKER_00]: He does he jumps in there.
47:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I say something real quick and then he's like,
47:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Brandon Walker, let me tell you about the key other situation.
47:18
[SPEAKER_00]: He really wanted them.
47:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it takes about six minutes for Twitter to blow up with video of Rangers.
47:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad he ran that 40 so we can get him.
47:28
[SPEAKER_00]: He's our dial and let's somebody blows away and he's ever you.
47:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god I just felt badly for Brandon beat.
47:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the guy who was so good in the schedule release, right?
47:37
[SPEAKER_00]: He got AI for the schedule release.
47:39
[SPEAKER_00]: The Allen I ever sent.
47:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's one of the best schedule releases in the entire national football league
47:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Buffalo is having this great run.
47:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably should have been in the M.A.
47:47
[SPEAKER_00]: of C championship and they couldn't get past Botanics and and the whole deal and and low and behold, they have fallen apart at the seams in about in in 15 minutes.
47:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It's unbelievable.
47:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It's unbelievable.
48:00
[SPEAKER_02]: all because of the key on Coleman too, but I'll say that the fans, the fans up there, y'all know I got a cousin up there in Buffalo, they do not like Brandon being at all.
48:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Before this, before it, no, they, and they hate key on Coleman.
48:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And so this is kind of what you're seeing bubble to the surface.
48:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And then obviously, you know, with all these teams, there's different
48:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Baltimore has one level.
48:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Buffalo has one level.
48:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Dallas has one level.
48:32
[SPEAKER_02]: It's different levels of frustration where you can seem like a dumpster, but Dallas always seems like a dumpster fire, right?
48:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Because of Jerry Jones.
48:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
48:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
48:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say right now, Buffalo does seem kind of like a dumpster fire right now.
48:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, it's unbelievable, and I'm loving every second.
48:51
[SPEAKER_03]: That's somebody else when they all season when it comes to shit shows, man.
48:56
[SPEAKER_00]: We win it every other year, man.
48:57
[SPEAKER_00]: That's somebody else win.
48:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just how you people not liking the way Mike McDaniel was let go, which I think is just so ridiculous.
49:05
[SPEAKER_00]: But the dolphins have just been kind of like flying under.
49:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they've been doing what they've been doing, and they're hiring people that were highly regarded.
49:13
[SPEAKER_00]: but there hasn't been a whole lot of pomp and circumstance and I think that's maybe a healthy thing for this franchise.
49:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess we shall see.
49:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We set set set set real quick because I don't with this as a pressure.
49:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I have about a hundred employees and I want to get your opinion, OJ, everybody's opinion.
49:32
[SPEAKER_01]: What is the proper way of letting somebody go?
49:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is a difficult thing.
49:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Part, you start while you're in that's working.
49:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna send him a payment in two seconds here, you know what, I'm not mad at how Mike McDaniel got let go because there is no ideal way to let somebody go, I mean, I
49:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess there is an ideal, but I don't know how often it works out.
49:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure Mike McDaniel has called people to cut them during the middle of, you know, some, you know, family function, family reunion.
50:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, you know, you got to call and you're cut.
50:11
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's this a tough business.
50:14
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, I don't feel bad for Mike.
50:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I, they should have done him better.
50:18
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't feel bad in one way, in one way, in one way.
50:22
[SPEAKER_02]: First, like, Ben's out.
50:24
[SPEAKER_02]: You should have let them go on Monday morning on Black Monday in a ceremony as fashion, not interrupting a player exit meeting.
50:35
[SPEAKER_02]: But whatever, again, my big deal is that my bigger deal is with the process.
50:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Stephen Ross had Mike still employed on Thursday, Mike should have been fired on Monday.
50:47
[SPEAKER_02]: My problem isn't the process of firing him.
50:51
[SPEAKER_02]: It's that he wasn't fired earlier.
50:53
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what shows me the dysfunction might still be there.
50:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't agree.
51:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he felt that this was a guy he liked.
51:03
[SPEAKER_00]: He probably hung on to him too long because he liked him.
51:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And he didn't make any rash decisions, but it looked like he was leaning towards keeping him.
51:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he quickly came and realized that all of these other people that were impressing him is football men wanted to go in a different direction and he made this decision.
51:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
51:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm with I'm with Perk on this one man.
51:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like don't don't come in and fire me when I'm I'm interviewing or talking doing X and meeting with a player, man.
51:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
51:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's I think that's BS right there.
51:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Big sad if you want to fire me a seven a.m. before I come to work you talk about the players tell about the players getting fire coming off the field.
51:39
[SPEAKER_03]: You know today have put in a full day of practice.
51:41
[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds like the same thing.
51:43
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I thought it was.
51:44
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I thought it was.
51:45
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I thought it was.
51:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you, you know, you make that decision at seven a.m.
51:50
[SPEAKER_03]: If even if it's our Thursday or Monday, whatever it is, don't let players be in a meeting with you.
51:55
[SPEAKER_00]: What if you have peers in all day?
51:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I just don't have a. Yeah.
52:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, bro.
52:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, Seth.
52:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on.
52:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have an issue with it.
52:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, obviously don't.
52:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, but I think that's bullshit that you don't have an issue with something like that.
52:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care if JT bumped in right now and said, Seth, you're done with Jason Taylor foundation in the middle of this, you'd be like,
52:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Bro, what do you want me to say?
52:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be crushed, but it is what it is.
52:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's his right to do it.
52:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the only issue I have.
52:25
[SPEAKER_00]: If he did lead Mike McDaniel to believe that he would be the coach of the Miami Dolphins in 2026 and then did an abrupt about face which he's still entitled to do, then I understand why Mike would feel away.
52:39
[SPEAKER_00]: But the timing of it, I could give a shit.
52:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not from a player, bro.
52:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Not from a player, bro.
52:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
52:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't do in front of a player.
52:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we kicked him out, kicked the player out.
52:50
[SPEAKER_03]: So he had to, you know what I mean?
52:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't, I don't have an issue with it.
52:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And if that makes me a bad call.
52:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, the player said that he just barely got out of the room and then he was going,
53:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I was on ESPN, the ticker that he would do got fired.
53:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So well, that's a whole other issue, the leaking thing and the way of information is going out.
53:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a whole other issue.
53:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't want to make irresponsible speculation as it relates to that.
53:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I just know that Mike's a great guy, you know what I mean?
53:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought there's more respect to them and showing them that situation, either way perks there, get it done on Monday or don't do it in front of a player on Thursday.
53:28
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all, man.
53:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Fair enough.
53:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, listen, I'm smart enough to do this show not for my office, so J.T.
53:33
[SPEAKER_00]: would have to figure out where to hell on that.
53:38
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's got your life 360.
53:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He does.
53:43
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all you got.
53:45
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you said, what's the right way to fire somebody, Chad Van Horde?
53:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they put out a wonderful statement about them.
53:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They did this great tribute video to them.
53:55
[SPEAKER_00]: They do all this shit.
53:56
[SPEAKER_00]: They cut players now and do all these beautiful love, love, love, hug, love, videos onto it.
54:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I've never seen anything like this.
54:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of the things that they do.
54:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought they were respectful in the way the organization handled it.
54:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I mean, the fact that he went up to the guy's office and somebody was sitting in there, I don't have an issue with it.
54:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't tell you how they cut me, Chaz, they cut my ass, they said, Oh, Jay, you know, we're letting you go, do you want to come in and get your stuff?
54:24
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to send it to you.
54:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, man, fuck God, man, send my shit to me.
54:27
[SPEAKER_03]: See what I'm saying like that next morning, seven boxes of shit, the next morning, I woke up and it was like my guy was at the door, ding dong, I had boxes and boxes of shit.
54:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, dude, Jews.
54:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I haven't much worse than you.
54:40
[SPEAKER_01]: There was this guy that you were teammates with in Terry Smith.
54:43
[SPEAKER_01]: He came to me and he is like, listen, we have enough tall, slow, whiteware severs.
54:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you should concentrate on basketball.
54:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, so in my stolen team, he's like, I mean, you can come to the games.
55:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like $5 a ticket.
55:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he wasn't wrong.
55:15
[SPEAKER_00]: We're way, way, way behind schedule here.
55:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to go, so, Drew, so I want to get into, I try to tell y'all, but you had information that you wanted to share with us.
55:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You had a pretty cool thing that happened today.
55:26
[SPEAKER_00]: We just talked about all the wrong ways to do things.
55:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess in the minority here, because I didn't have an issue with it, but something happened today that you thought was the right way to handle something and share it with us.
55:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I know you wanted to.
55:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely, man.
55:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It's funny that you said that because I went today to um, popping a beach, uh, fire and rescue, uh, place today, um, the firehouse there, station 61, and um, I was able to surprise Tommy, uh, of course, this mom Lydia who wasn't there, uh, as the,
55:57
[SPEAKER_03]: 2025 dolphin fan of the year.
56:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, they're going to the Super Bowl.
56:03
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got tickets from the dolphins, but he also told me this about the dolphins that he's talked to they've got like a chat with all the other fans of the year and they haven't like a lot of haven't heard from the organizations.
56:16
[SPEAKER_03]: but not Tommy, Tommy said they came to his job as we did today came to his mom's house, you know, they met him out of the restaurant, they did all these different things with a team actually went out there and showed the fan a year, a lot of love compared to what other organizations did.
56:33
[SPEAKER_03]: So we had a fun, I went around the block man, you know, had the assignments on, I was in the fire truck,
56:40
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I was like, all right, and I taught me to go home, man, you know, I mean, you know, you guys, you guys go into fires.
56:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I run away from them.
56:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, but just this a great experience today with with Tommy and the whole all the guys there at the firehouse, I'm going to talk about you won't talk about clean Man going to a firehouse, you want to you want to learn how to clean some stuff up everything was a macula, every every single thing was a macula man, and uh, you know, he's excited about going to uh, after San Francisco for the game.
57:10
[SPEAKER_03]: He, um, never doesn't fly, but he's got to fly the San Francisco.
57:13
[SPEAKER_03]: He wanted to drive out there.
57:14
[SPEAKER_03]: They said, what's going to take you about six days.
57:15
[SPEAKER_03]: He said, no, all right, we'll fly.
57:17
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, it was a great experience man all by the Dolphins and tick a mess, tick a master hook it up.
57:22
[SPEAKER_03]: So it was great.
57:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Love it, great stuff, great stuff, congrats to Tommy, also that you can be a part of that juice and nice to get a little behind the scenes action on that.
57:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's roll into I try to tell y'all.
57:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you doing one of the ages?
57:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Just do one man.
57:38
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, what you try to tell us first of all, let me I try to tell you all and Chad asked about this amazing glass right here.
57:44
[SPEAKER_03]: That's some of my good peeps at, you know, Miami, half, three, or five, the junk and dolphin.
57:48
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, if it says still has these zubas pants.
57:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't wear it.
57:54
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Marianne and making you rid of him.
57:55
[SPEAKER_03]: He's still got these.
57:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I got him hidden in the bottom of the drawer, man.
57:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
57:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are the rest of the people away from for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: stuff that she don't want to get touched.
58:02
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so here we go.
58:02
[SPEAKER_03]: So I try to tell you that honestly don't really have shit else to say.
58:08
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, no, see as you know.
58:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
58:16
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm trying to be positive about this team as a whole, you know, the draft has been okay, you know, Chris Briegg is fired,
58:23
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the coaches over the years, they've all gotten a fire, you know, the players, you know, we've been underwhelmed part by nine underwhelmed about 90% of the guys that we've had.
58:33
[SPEAKER_03]: The fans, well, they've been good and some bad, I guess, I don't know, it's been, it's been rough sometimes with fans, but I was forced to be a dolphin fan.
58:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I was forced to be a part of this organization.
58:44
[SPEAKER_03]: April of 1993.
58:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't ask for this shit.
58:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I really didn't, man.
58:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I was forced into this life.
58:50
[SPEAKER_03]: My cheese was forced into this life.
58:52
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they've seen very few playoff appearances and they've seen zero.
58:57
[SPEAKER_03]: wins.
58:57
[SPEAKER_03]: My boys is 17 to 23 perk, 17 to 23.
59:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I bought so many judges of players that last one, maybe two, maybe three years, Nike.com and the fanatics, they've got me about the end that you know what they do, man, I got all this shit, man.
59:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I have mad t-shirts that should probably go to a third world country, it's like, where, you know, it's Miami Hurricane, and that's what championship has to get to it, right now.
59:25
[SPEAKER_03]: How you gonna get me?
59:25
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, but I love the case.
59:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the case.
59:28
[SPEAKER_03]: There are second favorite football team.
59:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I promise you that But this is big tens of miles right now, big self can be a break, man.
59:34
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and that's three years money.
59:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying.
59:36
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all I'm just saying.
59:38
[SPEAKER_03]: So I have so many former player jerseys, you know, not from retirement.
59:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Just going.
59:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Now only rock.
59:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Reno jersey.
59:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Zach Thomas Jersey, Jason Taylor Jersey, and my favorite, of course, is Jim Kick Jersey.
59:53
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I'm not spending any more money on this team.
59:56
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, or any current or future players, I'm done with that shit, no more.
59:59
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
1:00:00
[SPEAKER_03]: That is it, Nick Saffle, you told me on, you know, home alone, you said that is it.
1:00:05
[SPEAKER_03]: You bet that's your favorite.
1:00:08
[SPEAKER_03]: You bet that's your favorite.
1:00:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Bonnie, but what I'm trying to say is that,
1:00:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't I don't give it down by anything I just said, man.
1:00:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, I'm a writer die with awkward noise.
1:00:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, like one of my stats gonna come out of the misty about, you know, I mean the next season or the next season or the next season.
1:00:27
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just how our role.
1:00:28
[SPEAKER_03]: So Sullivan and Ashley, I'm with you.
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm with you.
1:00:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe one day we can be Indiana and when that miracle
1:00:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck that.
1:00:44
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I'm telling you.
1:00:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Where is O. J. McGoff with a, um, wow, uh, an off the rails I try to tell y'all and everybody's loving it.
1:00:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They're eating it up in the chat.
1:00:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Perkins with that good internet.
1:00:59
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you try to tell us?
1:01:00
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I'll just switch it up to I'm trying to tell y'all here's what I'm trying to tell y'all Sully and halfway better get this being done quickly because we're seeing other teams all around the NFL get it done quickly right we see Liam calling
1:01:18
[SPEAKER_02]: and James Gladstone.
1:01:20
[SPEAKER_02]: First year coach, first year GM.
1:01:22
[SPEAKER_02]: They got it done.
1:01:23
[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen Mike Grable up in New England, first year coach.
1:01:27
[SPEAKER_02]: He got it done.
1:01:28
[SPEAKER_02]: We saw Dan Morgan and Carolina, first year GM with his second year coach Dave Canales.
1:01:34
[SPEAKER_02]: They were five and 12 last year.
1:01:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, look, this year they were only eight and nine, but they did make the playoffs.
1:01:40
[SPEAKER_02]: They did win that bad division.
1:01:42
[SPEAKER_02]: All around.
1:01:43
[SPEAKER_02]: All around.
1:01:44
[SPEAKER_02]: All around football, Denver, Chicago, we're seeing teens get this being done in one or two years.
1:01:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So what I'm trying to tell, Sully and Athlete, is you should get this team to the playoffs in two years.
1:01:59
[SPEAKER_02]: 2027, I'm not saying anybody deserves to be fired if you don't.
1:02:05
[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm saying is you're going to be on alert in year three.
1:02:09
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't get to the playoffs in year two, because we're seeing all around the NFL, this can be done.
1:02:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, whether they can sustain it, that's different, right?
1:02:20
[SPEAKER_02]: But they're getting to the playoffs very quickly.
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_02]: The pressure is on you guys to get to the playoffs very quickly, because we've seen first-year coaches and first-year GMs get it done within their first or second year.
1:02:34
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm trying to tell them.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to at least ask him about what their time goes on, right?
1:02:55
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no.
1:02:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you don't say what you're buying it, and then he's going to buy everything.
1:03:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You said you're trying to tell him this, and you're not even trying to tell him.
1:03:05
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
1:03:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm going to leave.
1:03:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no, no.
1:03:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
1:03:13
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you're hung with it this long, there's a reason this is just the best thing over.
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, fellas, I tried to tell y'all that the Miami dolphins needed to have football people making football decisions.
1:03:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So when the news broke that Troy Ackman had been contracted to serve as a consultant during the GM search, I felt that the manner in which we found out might have been a little bit clunky.
1:03:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But I was relieved that someone who would spend his entire career in and around football, particularly around winning championship level football.
1:03:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, alright, I'm going to take a deep breath here.
1:03:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the news of Dhammerino also being part of the process made me feel even better.
1:03:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And look,
1:03:52
[SPEAKER_00]: This is no shot at Tom Gardfinkle because when it comes to the business side of the Miami Dolphins, he's been top tier.
1:03:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a shot at Brandon Shore because I don't even know enough about the man other than he found a way for the Dolphins to remain cap compliant even when McDaniel and Greer tried to spend Stephen Ross's cash like Richard prior and Brewster's friggin millions.
1:04:13
[SPEAKER_00]: As a sign note, do you know how much that he was supposed to spend in that?
1:04:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you guys remember that Montgomery Brewster was left and impossible 300 million to spend in that 1985 classic?
1:04:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So, how about if you fast forward today?
1:04:26
[SPEAKER_00]: All he had to do was sign two and two was current deal, and then he wouldn't even have that.
1:04:30
[SPEAKER_00]: He wouldn't have to sell that deal up right now, stamp.
1:04:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, my point is that Garfinkle and Shores seem to be very good at what they do, but they don't do, and that what they're not involved with is making football decisions.
1:04:41
[SPEAKER_00]: analyzing football decision makers, let alone football coaches and football players.
1:04:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So bring in football guys, and that's it finally, exactly what Stephen Ross did.
1:04:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And so all you people who are complaining, he brought him football guys to help make football decisions.
1:04:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And as a result, we have a new head football man on campus in Johnny Erick Sullivan, a guy who was born into the sport.
1:05:03
[SPEAKER_00]: He was raised by a ball coach.
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_00]: He played the game.
1:05:06
[SPEAKER_00]: He spent three decades in title town and then Sully is Travis Winfield now because they're on a first name basis in the name basis I don't know.
1:05:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder what he could hey, Travis.
1:05:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Sully when they pass each other in the lunch line, but now now Sully has found us a football coach
1:05:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have no idea what will become of Jeff Hathley.
1:05:24
[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about it in length today, and I think most of us are all just kind of guessing, but what I do take confident is the fact that people who zeroed in on Hathley, the people who led the meetings, who asked the questions, who made the phone calls and made the decisions, were all men who have dedicated their lives to working in and around football.
1:05:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And with that, I'm hopeful that our Miami Dolphins have made the best higher in a long, long time, bringing football guys to make football decisions I tried to tell you all.
1:05:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay.
1:05:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so I like that.
1:05:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that big.
1:05:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I stand behind my shit and whatever you guys are doing it I don't know I'm still I'm still not doing jerseys.
1:06:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still not doing no more jerseys.
1:06:07
[SPEAKER_01]: When you know Jay's he said we don't wear jerseys any more anyway So I did my own I try to tell you all in the chat cuz I don't wear it.
1:06:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Where is it?
1:06:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I got a little chat Let's hear it
1:06:19
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, subox, subox, subox already put it up.
1:06:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you're not there, there's, I'll just leave it at that because I don't want to be sued too much.
1:06:28
[SPEAKER_01]: My lawyers are, my lawyers are probably as good, but if it's winning championships, like I get billionaires or billionaires for a reason.
1:06:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And, um,
1:06:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you're become a billionaire like taking advantage of small business owners real estate whatever you become that that doesn't make you a good NFL owner and there are great NFL owners I don't know if Mr. Ross is that or not I am doubtful that he is but it's he gives you the fireworks and the glitter every once in a while that you want to see but he's going to like he's going to become who he is at the end of the day.
1:07:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately, I don't think it's going to work out for the dolphins, but I hope you guys have the same UM run that we saw this year because that was out of nowhere, and I hope that that happens with you guys, but yeah, I just don't see it.
1:07:25
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Chad Van Horan trying to tell us.
1:07:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, we are past attend with a 10 o'clock mark, but this would not be a fish tank live featuring Chris Perkins, a Chad Van Horan.
1:07:36
[SPEAKER_00]: If we didn't allow Perk to ask at least one legal zone question for Chad.
1:07:43
[SPEAKER_00]: For a bad or a logarithical zone, Chris Perkins, what do you got?
1:07:47
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so Chad, here's my question.
1:07:49
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we're going to have to go.
1:07:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, shit, you always started this way.
1:07:54
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have condo a lot like in about a year and we've got this group that's supposed to be monitoring the election.
1:08:05
[SPEAKER_02]: How do we know we can trust this group and can we sue to see the results of the election?
1:08:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though it's supposed to be a private ballot and we do have a group that monitors it, can we sue?
1:08:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Can we get a temporary straining order before the new board gets in?
1:08:22
[SPEAKER_02]: How would that process work?
1:08:26
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I completely understand your question even though it's broken up and I want to be very direct is my internet connection.
1:08:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
1:08:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Very good.
1:08:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
1:08:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds great, Jeff.
1:08:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're fucking condo right now.
1:08:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Never.
1:08:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Never.
1:08:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Are we good?
1:08:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Are we good?
1:08:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that good legal advice?
1:08:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You're done.
1:08:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's over.
1:08:55
[SPEAKER_01]: We have people, we have people check in the ballot and you're called, get the fuck out of there.
1:09:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You're done.
1:09:06
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like how your Ted's walking with today as well.
1:09:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my Ted talk was much easier than deal with Perk.
1:09:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I can tell you, because I can hear every single word.
1:09:17
[SPEAKER_01]: A few questions and pixelated Perk is a thing.
1:09:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but he just needs to sell his goddamn condo and be done with this like legitimately.
1:09:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I have an extra bedroom.
1:09:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Jews, you have an extra bedroom too.
1:09:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's like let him live in freedom for a little bit and see.
1:09:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, let him like see what as roommates.
1:09:39
[SPEAKER_00]: There, let's hear his mate for TV.
1:09:42
[SPEAKER_01]: The little let him see what like real life is like.
1:09:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But like this, like he controlled by these people doesn't seem legitimate.
1:09:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Like let them eat cake.
1:09:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And Chad, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like,
1:10:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Fellas, I'm not sure what we accomplished tonight, but damn it, it was a lot of fun.
1:10:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It said, you got to run that through translator at one point.
1:10:22
[SPEAKER_01]: This is nice.
1:10:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I did.
1:10:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I have these headphones in.
1:10:25
[SPEAKER_01]: It has a Gemini Google disrunning.
1:10:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And it translates perk.
1:10:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And actually, some of Seth's language, I don't get he uses a big word.
1:10:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't get that.
1:10:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But I definitely understand YouTube's.
1:10:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So it tells me, like, mealy when Seth talks,
1:10:46
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all that's that I don't know why I don't know why it doesn't like so because he is Greek kids But it just for some reason my headphones don't like doesn't does not like him
1:10:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's all good.
1:10:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all good.
1:10:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it personally at all.
1:11:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
1:11:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Too much.
1:11:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we'll quick real quick.
1:11:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Big Seth where we get up out of here.
1:11:06
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Van Horne law, better be ready for wifful blast.
1:11:09
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's sponsored by Jason Taylor Foundation.
1:11:11
[SPEAKER_03]: This Saturday, you know, we're going to, we, we, we, you know, I had to try to find a team.
1:11:17
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, me, but I think my team's going to be all right against Van Horne law chat.
1:11:21
[SPEAKER_03]: We think about you all coming in.
1:11:23
[SPEAKER_01]: We're feeling good.
1:11:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Per, are you free?
1:11:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a little bit of a good castle.
1:11:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be in New Orleans for the senior bone.
1:11:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you seem like a senior guy.
1:11:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.
1:11:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, we're feeling good.
1:11:38
[SPEAKER_01]: We had we had practice at holiday park the other day.
1:11:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I went 11 for 11 with 11 home runs.
1:11:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I made the field dimensions and the rules.
1:11:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's going to be a little different when it comes to the real, but I could be more excited.
1:11:55
[SPEAKER_01]: My friends are excited as well and obviously it's for a good cause and I assume Jason Taylor is going to appreciate like having some wins after that loss.
1:12:07
[SPEAKER_01]: we got a question here.
1:12:08
[SPEAKER_00]: We do have a question.
1:12:09
[SPEAKER_00]: No J. T. Slander here in the live because I am not trying to get fired the right way or the wrong way.
1:12:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to say so whip and last, if you're in South Florida and it's not a celebrity driven event outside of juice and Chabby and horn.
1:12:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not perfect.
1:12:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I think.
1:12:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Mario Christmas might even have JT on the road recruiting because they missed so much time in the playoff run.
1:12:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're in South Florida Pine Trails Park, we'll be out there from 830 in the morning, about 3 p.m., it's a lot of fun.
1:12:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Juice could very competitive.
1:12:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Travis and Wingfield will be playing on Juice Crew as well.
1:12:43
[SPEAKER_00]: The last three or four years he's been a part of that.
1:12:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So come on out.
1:12:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good time.
1:12:47
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of fun for the whole family and all proceeds do benefit to Jason Taylor Foundation and the work that we do to help young people throughout South
1:12:58
[SPEAKER_00]: to follow up a good question by Chris Perkins.
1:13:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I have consulted with two firms that want payment up front does Van Horn Law Group offer payment options?
1:13:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it was a craziest thing.
1:13:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So we actually were the first firm in South Florida that offered where we would follow your case if you would just pay the filing fees.
1:13:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Department of Justice actually sued us
1:13:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they wanted us to charge everybody up front, $2,500 before filing their case.
1:13:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And we litigated against them in front of the Chief Judge in Miami, Judgesica.
1:13:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Chief Judge, who is a big supporter of pro bono, and we do a lot of pro bono work, was like, I do not understand why the Department of Justice would be upset about Van Horton
1:13:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So I appreciate that question because we were the firm that not only did we do we offer it and we offer it for years that we had a fight the Department of Justice to allow people to have paying plans to become debt-free, which as normal people would think,
1:14:14
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just a normal thing, like we work out payment plans for everything, like why can't we work out a payment plan for this, especially people that don't know the money.
1:14:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, we are paying plans, the filing fees and costs are about $300, $400, and we can break that into payments, and we can get you filed, and then we can break up payments afterwards.
1:14:33
[SPEAKER_00]: There it is, Van Horlog Group payment plan.
1:14:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I've just got a lot more interested in the whole thing, so he's a, he's going to have to find out how you love him.
1:14:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But look, we're definitely going to do a live from Perks H.O.A.
1:14:49
[SPEAKER_01]: meeting one time.
1:14:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Perks building is still an internet from the building next to them.
1:14:55
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a pertinent in their H.O.A.s for that service, man.
1:14:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what it is, man.
1:15:01
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the ultimate air server, man.
1:15:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, and by the way, yes, I take old Dolphins jerseys as payment, but there's only two dolphins, Jews, who are the two dolphins jerseys I'll take.
1:15:13
[SPEAKER_03]: to you take only take two obviously well you take mine yep better take mine yeah of course and probably marino because he's obviously nine that those willing to they're all take ninety nine's from Pittsburgh too just keep that in mind oh yeah I'll take three I'll take three he's got a jet's in a washington jersey too though okay I got anywhere else
1:15:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Cat for life says I got to talk to Chad bro.
1:15:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's just having fun or not, but if somebody cat for life or someone else needs to get in touch with you Chad Where should they reach out?
1:15:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, so we joke around a lot and I did like a TED talk type of event earlier today that was really impactful with a lot of people.
1:15:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You can email me at chat at cvhloggroup.com.
1:16:01
[SPEAKER_01]: If you Google Chad Van Horton, we'll take you to our page where you get a free consultation.
1:16:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, truly, like, today, like the average person is really struggling.
1:16:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're struggling with debt, if you're struggling with anything, just give me a call, reach out.
1:16:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe bankruptcy's option, maybe it's not.
1:16:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Belitio will know your options.
1:16:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So reach out and we have a lot of fun on this podcast.
1:16:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is real life events happening out there that are outside like, might me Daniels will be completely fine.
1:16:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the halfway will be fine.
1:16:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody will be fine that's making millions of dollars.
1:16:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's very serious for them.
1:16:40
[SPEAKER_01]: But there are a lot of very serious issues that are having for everyday Americans and we are here taking care of them and I appreciate this platform bringing that out for everybody and we have the short period of time for that.
1:16:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So I appreciate you guys doing that.
1:16:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate you, Chad.
1:16:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you know where to find them now.
1:16:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Savak, we didn't hear much from you today, but there was a whole lot of other shit going on, but thank you for keeping his honest all late long.
1:17:05
[SPEAKER_03]: It's real quick, Chad.
1:17:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Put that in the in the chat in the chat real quick.
1:17:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do it right now.
1:17:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, put that in the chat real quick while we're, um, so, you know, people, you know,
1:17:16
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I listed a radio and I hear people say numbers and shit.
1:17:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, wait, what was that again?
1:17:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, what was it?
1:17:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no doubt about it.
1:17:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Perkins, you're a true man.
1:17:27
[SPEAKER_00]: We will all be waiting with baited breath for you to go hard because you're not doing an in-house interview.
1:17:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to bring it.
1:17:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can't wait.
1:17:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be watching live, big set.
1:17:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be watching live.
1:17:39
[SPEAKER_03]: If Perck don't come hard, man, I'm going to have a problem with him next week.
1:17:44
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fine.
1:17:45
[SPEAKER_04]: That's fine.
1:17:46
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't bring it.
1:17:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, wait.
1:17:47
[SPEAKER_00]: What if he goes in with softballs and then doesn't even show up on the live next week?
1:17:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
1:17:55
[SPEAKER_01]: What if Starbucks arrest them tonight?
1:17:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, there's a lot of what is.
1:17:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I got in the tournament.
1:18:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I got in the tournament.
1:18:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so sorry.
1:18:03
[SPEAKER_03]: That ice coffee man.
1:18:07
[SPEAKER_03]: It's good, it's good, it's good.
1:18:15
[SPEAKER_06]: Good stuff, juice.
1:18:24
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just out of here, man.
1:18:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody, thanks for diving in.
1:18:40
[SPEAKER_05]: It's on the legend that we're talking with, you've never been in such a state.