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Jill Zarin on Housewife History, Sherri Papini’s Kidnap Reveal · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Such a
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  Speaker 4: tell a friend, and change your life. Okay. As you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm very into the Sherry Papini thing. fake kidnapping story.
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  Speaker 4: And I got a hold of the 55 page affidavit
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  Speaker 4: arrest legal papers. I had Shannon, my sister, Shannon McDonald Goldstein,
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  Speaker 4: the attorney at law, analyze it for me. I also
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  Speaker 4: read some of that. She told me where the juicy
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  Speaker 4: parts were. Um, but this is so crazy. So when
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  Speaker 4: I had Lala here on Tuesday, I was like, I
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  Speaker 4: can't believe she bailed on her cute husband for some old,
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  Speaker 4: old D. in the OC because she was with an ex-boyfriend.
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  Speaker 4: There's so much more to this. The ex-boyfriend was a
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  Speaker 4: guy that she dated when she was like 14 or 15.
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  Speaker 4: He was living a pretty simple life. He was not
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  Speaker 4: living the OC life like we see on Real Housewives
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  Speaker 4: of OC. He was a clerk at like a sporting
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  Speaker 4: goods store, hadn't had a girlfriend since 2006. Just a
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  Speaker 4: very simple person, I think. he found a box of
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  Speaker 4: her old stuff and he was like, oh, I have
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  Speaker 4: her parents' address. I'll go send it to them. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: it'll get to her. She gets it and then contacts him.
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  Speaker 4: And then they start talking and they have, she has
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  Speaker 4: like an extra phone that she's talking to him on,
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  Speaker 4: like a, you know, a disposable phone or whatever you
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  Speaker 4: want to call it. And she reveals to this guy that,
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  Speaker 4: My husband regularly beats and rapes me, and I've told
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  Speaker 4: the local sheriff's department in Redding, and they won't do any,
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  Speaker 4: or Shasta County, and they won't do anything about it.
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  Speaker 4: I need to run away and be safe. He's like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'm here to help you. He gets a friend to
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  Speaker 4: rent him a car. I guess he didn't rent it
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  Speaker 4: himself because he didn't want to be caught, or maybe
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  Speaker 4: he honestly doesn't even have the credit to rent a car.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. but there's another person involved that helped
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  Speaker 4: him rent this car, but we don't know if that
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  Speaker 4: person knew what the renting of the car was for.
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  Speaker 4: He rents the car so he can drive from Costa
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  Speaker 4: Mesa to Reading, and he meets her. The day she
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  Speaker 4: went missing, November 2, 2016, the last her husband had
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  Speaker 4: heard from her was that she asked, Are you coming
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  Speaker 4: home for lunch? He found her perfectly good iPhone and AirPods,
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  Speaker 4: next to each other in the grass with some like
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  Speaker 4: one hair of hers around it. And she was nobody
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  Speaker 4: where to be seen. And she didn't pick up her
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  Speaker 4: kids from daycare that day. He picks her up on
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  Speaker 4: the side of the road. According to this is all
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  Speaker 4: what he told the police. He picks her up on
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  Speaker 4: the side of the road and he said, she's kind
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  Speaker 4: of sweaty and in jogging clothes. And she sits in
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  Speaker 4: the back of the seat on the ground as he
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  Speaker 4: drives for the next, whatever, eight hours to get down
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  Speaker 4: to the OC and they barely talk. And, um, Nene
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  Speaker 4: go to his place, which this is his place right here,
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  Speaker 4: according to the Daily Mail. As you can see, it's
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  Speaker 4: just kind of a simple place. It has the front door,
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  Speaker 4: has the bars on it, which always kind of tells
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  Speaker 4: me it's not the greatest neighborhood, though a lot of
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  Speaker 4: neighborhoods aren't great anymore. But I'm just saying it looks
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  Speaker 4: like it's like, you know, it's not like he's on
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  Speaker 4: the water, okay? And there's two rooms. She picks one.
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  Speaker 4: that it has less light and they board up the
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  Speaker 4: windows and she's like, I'll stay here. Now, this is
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  Speaker 4: what's interesting. For the 22 days that she's missing, they
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  Speaker 4: don't have sex. He sleeps in the other room. She
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  Speaker 4: sleeps in this one. She never goes outside. He does
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  Speaker 4: bring her food, but what she eats of the food
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  Speaker 4: is very, very little. So she was already skinny and
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  Speaker 4: small and lost more weight. Early in her time of
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  Speaker 4: being with him, he comes home and she's cut off
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  Speaker 4: all of her beautiful blonde hair. He didn't know what
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  Speaker 4: she did with the hair, but it was gone. Then
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  Speaker 4: she started to bruise and hurt herself, which he couldn't understand.
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  Speaker 4: Then she said, please go to Hobby Lobby and get
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  Speaker 4: me a branding thing so you can burn me. He said,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't want to do any of this stuff, but
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  Speaker 4: she asked me to. So He sits behind her. He
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  Speaker 4: lights up this. The branding thing is something you'd plug
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  Speaker 4: into the wall. And then once it's lit up, he
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  Speaker 4: said it looked like an electric toothbrush. And he's like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember what the thing had on it, but
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  Speaker 4: she was specific about what she wanted the branding thing
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  Speaker 4: to mean. But he's like, I just picked up whatever
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  Speaker 4: one I wanted from Hobby Lobby. He brands her. He
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  Speaker 4: said she seemed really okay with the pain. He went
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  Speaker 4: and got some cream for burns to help her heal. And,
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  Speaker 4: and then after, then he started to see some news,
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  Speaker 4: but they didn't really watch the news, but she could
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  Speaker 4: watch on her phone. He tells his mother that she's there.
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  Speaker 4: And the mom then realizes that she's been missing and
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  Speaker 4: is like, I don't think this is going to be
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  Speaker 4: great for you. And he's like, well, God, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he just seems like such, just not a smart dude.
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  Speaker 4: Just like, oh, I guess this is what she wanted,
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  Speaker 4: you know? His cousin and the cousin's wife are also
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  Speaker 4: made aware that she's at the house. So I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if later on the cousin or the person that
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  Speaker 4: rented the car or even her husband is going to
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  Speaker 4: be arrested. Last night, the sheriff said, I do believe
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  Speaker 4: there might be other people involved in this crime that
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  Speaker 4: also might face some charges. She's like, I miss my
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  Speaker 4: kids now. I'd like to go home because tomorrow's Thanksgiving. The, they, they,
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  Speaker 4: The cops say they spent over $ 200, 000 in resources trying
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  Speaker 4: to find this woman. I've heard from personal Juicy Scoopers
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  Speaker 4: that spent their days searching for her in this hometown.
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  Speaker 4: I remember personally being like, this is so sad. Where
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  Speaker 4: is this girl? How is this family waking up every day?
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  Speaker 4: 22 days. If your daughter... young mom is missing for
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  Speaker 4: 22 days. I'm sorry, but it's very hard to have
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  Speaker 4: any hope. So I can't imagine what these families were
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  Speaker 4: going through. However, in the investigation, now that we know
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  Speaker 4: that it was all fake, they did find that in 2003, um,
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  Speaker 4: her mom, uh, did a report with the police saying
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  Speaker 4: that her 21-year-old daughter was hurting herself and blaming someone
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  Speaker 4: else and did a report on it. She also stole
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  Speaker 4: money and damaged a garage. This is all before she
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  Speaker 4: got married. There was also a racist essay that she
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  Speaker 4: wrote and put on a website called skinheads.com where it
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  Speaker 4: was really awful thing about Latinas. And she wrote that
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  Speaker 4: she was always getting bullied by Latino people because she
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  Speaker 4: was drug-free and white. As you know, she said that
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  Speaker 4: the two people that kidnapped her were two Mexican women. Also,
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  Speaker 4: the cops said there's really, it's like there's no abductions
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  Speaker 4: of women abducting other women. So they were very suspicious
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  Speaker 4: from the story from the start. but it took this
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  Speaker 4: many years to really get all the evidence to prove
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  Speaker 4: what she had done, which is why it's taken this long. Um, she, um,
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  Speaker 4: she also said, so, so then, okay, so he drops
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  Speaker 4: her off And there's all these, all the cell phone
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  Speaker 4: records and the renting of the car records all go
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  Speaker 4: along with this ex-boyfriend story who has told his side,
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  Speaker 4: which is the 90% of the evidence, right? So then
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  Speaker 4: they say that he drops her off and she had
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  Speaker 4: a bag with her in the car for the long
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  Speaker 4: ride back up to Reading with the chains and the
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  Speaker 4: bindings that she then put on herself, then hopped out
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  Speaker 4: of the car and hopping around like this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, help!
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  Speaker 4: The two Mexicans just released me. They were so mean
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  Speaker 4: to me. They were playing annoying Mexican music and mariachi music.
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  Speaker 4: She literally said that to the cops. She said, they're like,
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  Speaker 4: what did these girls say to you for 22 days?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. They just played annoying Mexican music. And
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  Speaker 4: when they first got me in their car, their SUV
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  Speaker 4: with a gun, they played mariachi music for the eight
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  Speaker 4: hours down. So, She says that somebody finds her. They're like,
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  Speaker 4: oh my God, it's a Thanksgiving miracle. She's here. They
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  Speaker 4: take her to the hospital and in the hospital, she
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  Speaker 4: says what happened to her, that they, she doesn't talk
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  Speaker 4: about sexual assault, but she said that they, you know,
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  Speaker 4: fed her very little, that they beat her and they
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  Speaker 4: made her go to the bathroom in a bucket. But
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  Speaker 4: then she suggested, well, could I at least just go
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  Speaker 4: in like a kitty litter thing? That was her suggestion.
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  Speaker 4: So they have suspicions. Some people are, you know, Facebook
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  Speaker 4: sleuths are, are bring up the skinhead article that then
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  Speaker 4: she said, I never wrote that. Someone plagiarized and said
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  Speaker 4: it was me when it wasn't me. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 4: people bring up this other, um, uh, this other thing
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  Speaker 4: that the mom said that 21, that she had hurt
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  Speaker 4: herself and had some issues. And, um, But people are like,
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  Speaker 4: that is horrible. You should be ashamed of yourself. The
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  Speaker 4: husband is like, anybody that thinks this isn't true should
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  Speaker 4: be ashamed of herself. I mean, my wife looks awful.
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  Speaker 4: She'd never lie about this. Meanwhile, not only do she
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  Speaker 4: and the husband get the $ 49, 000 from the GoFundMe that
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  Speaker 4: people put together, they spend that on personal things, one
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  Speaker 4: being paying off her credit card debt. But she also
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  Speaker 4: applies for the $ 30, 000. $ 30, 000 California victim fund. She didn't
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  Speaker 4: have to apply for that. She didn't have to ask
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  Speaker 4: for it. It doesn't just automatically come to you if
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  Speaker 4: you're a victim. You have to ask for it. So
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  Speaker 4: she spent that money as well. Also, at one point,
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  Speaker 4: there was this guy who put out there just a
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  Speaker 4: citizen that said, I will pay this large ransom that
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  Speaker 4: no one is asking for. if the kidnappers bring Sherry
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  Speaker 4: back to us by Thanksgiving, I will pay this big ransom. Now,
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  Speaker 4: the big ransom was never paid to Sherry or the
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  Speaker 4: fake kidnappers or whatever. I just think that's sort of interesting.
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  Speaker 4: And at that point, that same donor said, I'm still
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  Speaker 4: willing to donate this money to help you recover. Very weird.
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to hear from that person. So There you go.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know where it stands with the husband,
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  Speaker 4: the cute husband. Like, let's just like this is the husband. OK.
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  Speaker 4: And he they originally they thought like everybody when she
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  Speaker 4: first went missing that he was guilty, but he passed everything.
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  Speaker 4: I personally do not think that he was involved. I
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  Speaker 4: think possibly afterwards he may have had his own doubts about.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that might be why they're separated today.
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  Speaker 4: I'm still not 100% sure of that. But, yeah, that
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  Speaker 4: is the latest. She got out of prison. She was
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  Speaker 4: arrested on Thursday at her kid's music class. And the
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  Speaker 4: FBI agent said, you're under arrest for, you know, faking
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  Speaker 4: or kidnapping. She screamed and ran away. So the prosecution
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  Speaker 4: is saying that is arresting her. resisting arrest. The defense
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  Speaker 4: attorneys are saying, no, you scared her. She didn't know
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  Speaker 4: what was going on. She's trying to protect her kids.
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  Speaker 4: The defense also said, you have to let her out
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  Speaker 4: of jail because she has strong allergies and she's only
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  Speaker 4: had an apple. And, you know, she likes fruit. The
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  Speaker 4: ex-boyfriend said she liked eating bananas too at his place.
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  Speaker 4: And also, what was interesting is when they were suspicious
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  Speaker 4: of her, And they knew about the boyfriend back in 2020,
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  Speaker 4: but she still was sticking to her too Mexican mean
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  Speaker 4: lady story. They took photos of the room that she
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  Speaker 4: actually stayed in and the closet and the windows. And
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  Speaker 4: they said, does this, Sherry, is this what the place
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  Speaker 4: that you were held captive looked like? And she, because
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  Speaker 4: she basically described it to them. And then they actually
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  Speaker 4: show her the real picture of the boyfriend's bedroom that
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  Speaker 4: she was in. And she's like, very close, not totally,
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  Speaker 4: but very close. She was telling on herself. She was
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  Speaker 4: just crazy. So the question is, had she ever seen
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  Speaker 4: Gone Girl? Is she a fan of Ben Affleck? Did
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  Speaker 4: she read the book? And what is the husband thinking?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, do you imagine putting the pain? I would
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  Speaker 4: be so furious with this woman if I was her
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  Speaker 4: friend or relative. that you had to tell a four-
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  Speaker 4: and two-year-old every day, Mommy's on a trip. We're looking
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  Speaker 4: for Mommy. Mommy went running, and we can't find her.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm just so curious what's going to happen. I'll
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  Speaker 4: keep following it. There you go, guys.
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  Speaker 5: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
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  Speaker 5: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
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  Speaker 5: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
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  Speaker 5: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
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  Speaker 5: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
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  Speaker 3: So easy.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
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  Speaker 6: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
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  Speaker 6: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
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  Speaker 6: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
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  Speaker 3: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
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  Speaker 4: I'm heading to the Emmys and I have police complaints
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  Speaker 4: filed against me.
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  Speaker 3: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
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  Speaker 3: what would you do if it was given back?
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  Speaker 6: Where did that need come from where you thought that
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  Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
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  Speaker 4: He said, I have a work dad.
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  Speaker 6: I need a home dad.
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  Speaker 3: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships.
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  Speaker 6: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
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  Speaker 6: go through.
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  Speaker 3: It's about what happens next. I decided to risk it all.
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  Speaker 4: I realized how valuable every day was.
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  Speaker 3: You're worth the work. Listen, Dara, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 3: pull punches. You can use your voice even if it shakes.
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  Speaker 6: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
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  Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I have returning Juicy Scooper, icon, original housewife, Jel Zarin. Surprise!
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  Speaker 4: I'm wearing her surprise sweatshirt.
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  Speaker 3: I love you.
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  Speaker 4: The greatest scene ever. It wasn't the greatest moment for you.
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  Speaker 3: It sucked.
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  Speaker 4: I remember we talked after. Did we? Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: I remember where I was.
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  Speaker 3: Did I call you from there?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: I was in a hotel room in New York on
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  Speaker 4: my bus. doing something with my book, trying to either
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  Speaker 4: get a book deal or something, and we were making
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  Speaker 4: plans to get together. I remember looking out at the
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  Speaker 4: windowsill and talking to you, and you're like, Heather, you
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  Speaker 4: won't believe it. They're so cruel. I thought it would
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  Speaker 4: be so nice if I just went, you know, because
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  Speaker 4: originally I was supposed to go on the trip. And
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  Speaker 4: then I was like, you know what would be great?
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  Speaker 4: Bobby and I will stop off, and I'll just go, surprise!
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  Speaker 4: I'm here. I'm walking.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't good. It wasn't good. But I found out
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  Speaker 3: later on some behind-the-scenes things that I didn't know from
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  Speaker 3: Alex McCord, like 10 years, like eight years later.
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  Speaker 4: All right, just tell us real quick, and then I've
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  Speaker 4: got a real fun thing we're going to do.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, so real fast, what you told me is that
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: that day, it was after what happened the night before,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: which we all saw on television.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Which was Kelly Bessamone went– She OD'd on the jelly bellies.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: And that's when Bethany said, go to sleep. Go to sleep.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Just go to sleep. It was terrible. And then she said,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I imagine Bethany stabbing me all night. Everyone's like, what
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: are you talking about?
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I knew something had happened. In fairness, the girls had
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: called me in New York off camera to say that
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: something had happened with Kelly and, you know, whatever. And
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: there was a moment there that I could have said, well,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: you know what? I'm coming tomorrow. So whatever. But, you know,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: there's no manual for this, Heather.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: So do I tell them? And then maybe they'll tell
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: me not to come? Or do I just leave it
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: a surprise the way it was? And I decided to
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: leave it a surprise.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Surprise.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Man, mistake.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: By the way, if anyone's hearing heavy breathing, that is
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: not Jill. That is her dog. Bossy. Bossy.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: You have to go on YouTube to see her.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: So if you're just listening, you've got to get on
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: YouTube and see the boss.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Okay, continue.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I stick her face in the mic. Anyway, so what
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I found out was after that night was traumatizing really
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: for the whole house. They just wanted to hang out
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: that day at the pool because they were leaving the
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: next day. So this was like Monday and they were
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: all leaving on Tuesday. And I arrived at 3 o'clock.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: And what happened was because the production knew I was coming,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: they were messing around with the girls. And they were
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: making them even kind of more aggravated on purpose.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: So they told them that they had to sit in
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: these manicure, pedicure chairs facing the front door. And they
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: held them there for two hours.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Wow. And I remember when we talked about this, I go, yeah,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: you know, that makes no sense. If you were going
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: to get an at-home pedicure at a beautiful resort, wouldn't
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: you be facing the water? No, they had them facing
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: the living room.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: They didn't know what was coming through the door, but
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: they knew it wasn't going to be good. No, they
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: didn't know. But they had to suspect something was up.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: And they didn't hold them there for five minutes. They
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: held him there for two hours. And they kept on
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: saying to production, we're not going to sit here anymore.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: We want to go to the beach. No, no, five
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: more minutes, five more minutes. And the funny thing is
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I was being held too.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if production was just holding us
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: both to just build it and build it and build
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: it so the girls were just like when I walk
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: in the door, you know, fuck you, get out.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: But that's what happened. And I don't remember who the
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: producer was on the site. I wish I knew because
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I'd probably have a little talk with him now and say,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: how could you do that to me?
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Did it hurt your feelings at all? When you watched
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: it and they were like, oh, that voice, I can't
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: take it. Surprise!
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I'm used to that. I'm used to that. I mean,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: that was like, I mean, Bethany always made fun of my,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: you know, hi, surprise!
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: She was mean.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: So I was in the shower today and just thinking,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: you know, oh, there's always so much to talk about
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: with Jill. And then I thought, wait a minute, because
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: I was thinking, I wonder what she thinks of this scenario.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: I wonder what she thinks of what's going on in
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: this franchise.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: even if you're not up on all of it, I
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: thought of the greatest episode ever. What would Jill Zarin do?
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: And I asked the Juicy Scoopers, we're going to ask
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Jill any scenario in any franchise, if you plopped yourself
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: in there, what would you do? And I have so many.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. Thank you guys for writing in.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: First of all, as we know, New York City. Okay.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: I just want to say, we don't know what's going
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: on with the casting of New York City, right?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Well, nobody knows. And that's, that's, By the way, and
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: that's inside information.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: That nobody knows. That's right.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Thanks for that. And I'm going to tell you why
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: that's inside information.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: You're hearing it here first.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: That nobody knows. You're hearing it here first, meaning all
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: these websites, heavy.com, all these websites that are saying that
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Lucia Wong-Gordon is a cast member and this one's a
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: cast member, all not true.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: All of it.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: And I know that from the horse's mouth. Not true.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: In fact, I know some of those girls personally. They
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: didn't audition. They didn't even try to get on the show.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: They have absolutely no intention. So they're just finding names
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: on the internet and literally throwing them in the pot.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Maybe one is true of a girl I don't know.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: But anyway, so the truth is nobody knows. Bravo has
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: not made a decision. I'm sure that I think they're
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: just waiting. I think nothing's going to happen until next year.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: This is what I think.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying what I think. I think they are
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: looking for new, you know, like maybe three or four
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: new people that actually might have connect a little bit
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: of a connection to each other, maybe a little younger.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: And then based on finding those three or four women,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: then they will decide who to bring back. And, and like,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: it could be one of these ladies, or it could
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: go to you or Kelly Bessamone, or like, I could
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: see them bringing back even older. And then maybe, yeah.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: So I think that's why we don't know of anything
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: that's going on with them.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I do think with Ramona, she's at risk of not
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: being asked back because of the whole woke thing going
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: on in the world. I mean, I think that the
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: fact that they fired this girl from Salt Lake City
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: because of something she had done a couple of years
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: ago or whatever.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Well, it was pretty recent. It was 2020 and it
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: was like blatant social media posts.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying Ramona has said worse on the show.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, just I'm not saying currently.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I would probably disagree with that. I mean, I do
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: kind of disagree because she has said things that are cringy,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: but we're literally seeing them in the context of why
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: she's saying it like Ramona with the help and, you know,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: on all that kind of stuff. It's like it's bad,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: but it's also just like.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, but go back to Chelsea lately.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Get away with a lot of stuff that you said
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: at that roundtable now.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: No, but.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: But it was appropriate at the time.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: No, it wasn't. But we didn't have the internet that
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: we have now, and people weren't out to, like, point
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: fingers at you. No, but what I'm saying is it's
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: apples to apples. So once the episode was gone, the
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: episode was gone. It's nowhere to be found on YouTube.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Well, that's for sure. They whitewashed that show. Well, just.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: No, but YouTube did... I mean... E took it off
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: of YouTube because they were pissed that Chelsea was no
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: longer on E.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right, right.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: But that's the greatest thing that could have happened to us.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Thank God.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: But I'm saying right now, if you go find it, yeah,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: we did it. We did it. We did it fine.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: But I don't know. We'll see. Let's not talk about
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: the wolf shit. Anyway, who cares?
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: The truth is nobody knows. And I hope that my
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: point was is that I hope it's not the case.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Although I'm a little– do you want to hear what
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: happened last night?
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Sure. Sure.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Gary told me not to say anything.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, then say it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely saying it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Gary's your boyfriend.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Gary's my boyfriend, and I'm definitely saying it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: What?
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I'm on the phone with Gary last night. He's in
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: the lobby of my building in New York City. I'm
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: in Florida. And he says, Ramona, and then he hangs
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: up on me. And I'm like, what? He calls me back.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: He goes, you're not going to believe what just happened.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: I said, what?
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: He says, she shut the elevator on my face. I said, what?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: He goes, she got in the elevator. I was walking in.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I said, Ramon. And she literally shut the door on
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: my face.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: So she was visiting someone? Because she doesn't live in
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: your building. She lives in my building. She does live
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: in your building.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I live in her building. She was there first.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Do you think she recognized him or she just thought
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: he was a rabid fan?
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: I said that. I said, Gary, did she know it
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: was you? He said, absolutely, 100%. She's trying to make.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: It in real estate. How rude is that? What if
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Gary wanted to buy an apartment? Why would she do
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: that to Gary?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: What did he ever do to her?
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, she is awful and rude,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: and I know people say that. But for me, I'm like,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: as someone that watches at home, it's just consistent. She's
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: just consistent. She's never going to change. This is the
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: way she is.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I agree, but that's what I'm saying. So do you— I
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: don't know if, and I'm just.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Saying this— But there's no, like, blatant evidence like they
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: had for this other girl on Salt Lake City.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: They canceled the reunion because of it. What are you
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: talking about?
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: They canceled New York because of it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Because there was an allegation of some things that was said.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's right. Uh-huh. Forgot about that juicy scoop.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Right. So, listen, I think that they can't do the show.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: And then the girls were all mad because they miss
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: out on a huge paycheck when there's no reunion.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: They were real mad.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: But then they sort of blamed Ebony for that because
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: it was Ebony who was pointing out the potential. wrongdoing
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: that happened.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: That's true, too. I don't think she realized the effect
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: She didn't know that she'd cut off her nose to
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: spite her face, too. I don't think she would have
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: done it if she did, right? Anyway, I don't think they.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Can do the show without Ramon. I think Ramon is
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: the heart of the show. Like you said, inappropriateness. If
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: it is politically correct, there's no New York. You have
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: to allow people to fumble and fall. Otherwise, there's no show.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: That's what I think.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Alright, so... What would Jill Zarin do? Look at this.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: You've got to get on YouTube, people, and see this.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: I'm going to start about with New Jersey. Are you
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: up on New Jersey? If not, okay. Oh, yes. Okay,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: so what would you do, Jill, if one of the
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: cast members was coming after you, poking at your past,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: poking at your character over and over?
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Who am I in this case that you're talking about?
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I'm saying you're maybe Margaret. Oh.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Another cast member is poking at you, and you have
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: knowledge and have had knowledge for years that this girl, Jennifer,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: her husband had an affair 10 years prior. And in
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: the process, she's maybe poking at you for being married
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: for the second time, and she's only been married once.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: I'm just thinking of something that you could relate to.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I actually have a situation in that. actually, that I
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: could do to somebody that I've chosen not to, but
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: it's not apples to apples. So there's two answers. If
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: it's accusing me of doing something, if you're accusing me
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: of doing something that I know that you've done, I'm
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: going after you. What's good for the goose is good
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: for the gander. However, if it's not equal, if you're
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: going after me for something mild and I've got something
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: that'll ruin your life, I'm not going to do that
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: to you.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Right. But I see what you're saying. It's a little
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: different because in the Margaret Jennifer case, Jennifer was, you know, very, um,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: I saw it right. Going after Margaret for all Margaret,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Margaret had an affair on her first husband and is
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: now with her second husband who she had the affair with.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: And very judgmental.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: And then, yes. But Jennifer never cheated, but her husband
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: cheated on her 10 years prior. And she never thought
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: anyone would know. And now I'm watching it, looking back,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: and I'm thinking maybe, you know, and also Jennifer... sought
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: out to see if there was real evidence behind the
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: accusation of Jackie's husband possibly cheating. She was like, who's
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: the who's the. So she was looking for it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Do we think Jackie's husband cheated? I don't.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I want to kill that one.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah. No.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Right. I agree.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Although I think every time Jackie brings it up, it
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: makes me think something. Like, why stop bringing it up?
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Like Jackie keeps on bringing it up.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Well, when you did this to me last year, stop
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: bringing it up because I didn't even remember.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: But I think people are kind of like, why, why
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: was she going after it? And I, and I was thinking,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: why would you, you know, stone, throw stones when you
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: live in a glass house? But now I think, was
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: she doing this and exposing the flaws possibly in her
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: castmates because she knew that eventually this secret might come
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: out about her?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Well, this is another thing, though. This is just like
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: a whole nother angle.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: What if she didn't know her husband cheated, but Margaret knew?
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: What if Margaret knew her husband cheated? Did Margaret know
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: that she knew? There's like that would have been terrible.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I don't think it would have been good if Margaret
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: told her on national TV that she had proof her
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: husband cheated and she didn't know her children didn't know nothing.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Did she know that? She, she knew. Did Margaret know that,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: what's her name again?
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Margaret knew that Jennifer knew.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: How did she know?
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: And Jennifer.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: How did she know Jennifer knew?
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I think she did, but
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: also she knew because when, when Margaret said, all right,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: let's talk about your husband having an affair with the
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: office banner. And she's like, it wasn't.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: It was a pharmaceutical rep.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: But how did she know it was the office manager? Like,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: how did she know if she knew it was the
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: office manager or the pharmaceutical rep? Like, do you think Margaret,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I should ask Margaret, did she know she was outing her?
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Or did she think she knew already? Was her intent
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: to out it?
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: What she told me is no. What she told me,
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: what Margaret told me is yes, she knew that Jennifer knew.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Okay. I wonder if she would have done it if
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: she didn't know.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Lots of people knew. Okay.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: But if she didn't know, do you think Margaret would
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: have done it?
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I don't. No. I don't.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think she's that mean.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: No.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: So I want to tell you Heather right now.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: What?
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: About Peter. Should I tell her about Peter?
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: I love it. Okay. What if your castmate's newest boyfriend
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: of one year, you opened up your Instagram and saw
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: him hot and sweaty with a bunch of other guys
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: doing a video of In which he's proclaiming his love
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: for an ex-fiance, which makes him look very odd.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I've never personally seen it, so can you show it
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: to me later, number one?
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, I can.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: And number two is, why didn't Bravo show that on air?
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Because I don't think it was theirs to show. I
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: think there was a legal issue. Oh, okay. So the
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Instagram that originally posted it, actually it's Bravo and Cocktails.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: And Bravo and Cocktails somehow got removed from Instagram.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: So did they come out and do another name?
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Bravo and Cocktails has had to restart their Instagram, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: it's now something close to that. You can write it in,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: but it should have changed the name a little bit.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Because they put up something that they technically didn't own.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: That's probably why.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Or the person that didn't like it went after them constantly.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Now it's Bravo and Cocktails with two S's. Now it's
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Bravo and Cocktails with two S's.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Did they repost the video?
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: That person was given the video by the person he
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: sent it to, his former fiance. That Instagram account is
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: who originally posted it. So many people picked it up.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Isn't that amazing how people just immediately grab it? I mean,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: it was everywhere. All the Bravo accounts that I follow
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: were reposting it. So then that's why it got brought
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: up in the show.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Did he look like he was gay?
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: No, it wasn't at all gay. It was super macho.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: It was just like awkwardly, it was just an awkward,
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: like weird thing. And him, it just was weird. It's
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: exactly what Margaret said. It was weird. So you, you
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: bring it up and your castmate does not want to
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: discuss it because this is a love of her life.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: She's like last night, Teresa was saying to her daughter,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: I don't care about his past. I don't care about
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: his past. It's, it's about now. And I'm like, What?
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: You don't care about a 50-year-old man's past. What if
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: he was a criminal? What if he was a wife-beater,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: which they, you know, also refer to in the alleged
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: thing last night? What if he... What do you mean?
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Because she trusts herself to judge.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: You don't want to know if your guy's a dirty John? Like,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: what the hell? I don't want to know. Like, is
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: that being a good mother?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: No.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, so... I'm thinking of it that way. No, you're right.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay, so... You're on the show, and they're like,
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: come on, we've got to talk about this weird video.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: How would you handle it with your friend?
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Who am I?
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Yourself. This is your scenario. You get it? What would
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Jill do?
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: No, no, but who am I? What would I do
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: if I'm Teresa?
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: No, I would be Teresa. You're going to try to
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: tell me about it, and why won't I talk about
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: my boyfriend being in a weird video? What would you do?
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Would you shut it down and not bring it up,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: or would you keep bringing it up like Margaret?
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: You're Jill.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: You're Jill, who's been plopped down in New Jersey. You
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: know I'm not going to talk about it.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to hurt my friend. If we're friends,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: I don't want to hurt her. That's why I'm terrible
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: for reality TV now. Because I don't want to hurt
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: anybody's feelings.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: That's fine. Okay, Jill, you are on the bus at
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: the beauty lab in Salt Lake City. Okay, Jill, you
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: are in Salt Lake City. You are in the sprinter
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: van at beauty lab. And the authorities show up before
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: a fun girls trip to arrest Jill. your castmate who
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: had just told you that her husband was in the
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: hospital and she cannot go on the trip just to leave.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: So you're praying for her husband and then you find
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: out the FBI is looking for her. What is your
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: reaction to that?
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: My reaction is I don't trust her and she's a liar.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: And who could come up with such a story so quickly?
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: So something like I'm curious to know how she came
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: up with that lie so fast, so convincingly because we
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: all saw it.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Who was on that phone? Did she ever find out?
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Did we ever find out who was on the phone?
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: I believe we think it was her husband telling her.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: To run away, go to Canada?
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: That they came to the house already maybe and they're
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: on their way. We don't know. Actually, we don't know
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: who that person is.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: And they didn't bring it up at the reunion. Why not?
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: But the way she talks, it sounds like it was
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: her husband.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Like in the beginning. Did Andy ask her at the reunion?
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: I think we're going to know on Sunday.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, right, because they haven't gotten to her. It hasn't
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: been her turn. They're going to save the best for last.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I have to say, I have a different opinion of
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Jen Shaw this season. I think it's a softer version
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: of her. I mean, you can't blame her. I mean,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: look what happened to her. But she definitely softened up, right?
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Well, that's what people are saying. Like, everyone's going after
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Lisa Barlow as the worst person on earth, but here's
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: a person that's facing up to 30 years in federal
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: prison for– doing the worst things, the most horrible things
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: if she's guilty.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, her assistant turned himself in on the
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: mercy of the court. He's going to get probably 20 years.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: Well, now they're saying that they're closing the files or
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: whatever because they're waiting to sentence him after her. So
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: what do you do? How do you continue to film
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Knowing that your cast member is facing charges like this,
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: do you believe they are innocent until proven guilty? Or
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: does it affect you.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: To play along? Honestly, I'm so happy that she's on
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: the show because it takes the heat off of me.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I'm just so happy that she's filming because now all
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: of it's on her and it's off of me. I mean,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: that's what you think of when you're doing a reality show.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: You're thinking, who's getting the bullet this season? Who's everyone
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: going after? And sometimes, you know, it starts one way
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: and it ends another way. Like Margaret was getting it
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: bad for being the one to out and this and that.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: We'll see how that turns out for her. What I
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: love about Margaret, though, is she's always authentic. You may
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: not like her, but she's consistently authentic.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Yes, I like Margaret a lot. In the Real Housewives
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: of OC, this girl, Noella, who is ending her marriage
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: to Sweet James, you'll see his post.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Who is he?
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: You will see his billboards throughout your L.A. trip.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Who is he?
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: He is a personal injury attorney.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's an attorney.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: And he advertises throughout Southern California on radio and billboards.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: But he's moved to Puerto Rico now, allegedly, right?
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: But his billboards and everything are still here in his ads.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: And what's his name? Sweet James?
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Sweet James.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: That's what it says on the billboard?
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Sweet James. Get ready to see that. He has like
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: pubic hair on his head.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking Sweet Baby James from James Taylor's song.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: So you're in a cast and Noella is there. And
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: she says, well, before my husband and I divorced, I
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: presented him with a stack of vaginas.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I didn't know what that meant. Did anyone know what
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: that meant? Well, no.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: And so she shows it, and it's three girls, her
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: being one of them, on top of each other, on
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: top of a bed.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Bending over.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: With just their vaginas exposed. So then I assume he.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Walks up with an erect. Yeah, and he can go do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Like it's an ATM machine. He's making withdrawals. Anyway. How
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: do you react? Deposits and withdrawals. That's true.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: How do you react? Is that what you're saying? Is
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: it an ATM machine? I mean, how does it make
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: you feel that this girl is.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I think she doesn't belong on the cast. There's so
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: many reasons. And that's what's wrong. I hate when the
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: shows do this, where they kind of throw in a piñata.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, they just throw in somebody into the middle.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: They beat them up. You know, like they all have
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: a stick because they're beating her up. I mean, they're
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: all getting beat up. Like a piñata, you know? And
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: she doesn't fit in. She's not the age of the girls.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, she's relating to Heather's daughter.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Right? Right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously there's a big age difference, but she
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: thought she was older than she was.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Well, speaking of Heather's daughter, also on the OC, how
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: would you react if when Allie was 17, she was
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: given a inappropriate sexual game like Noella gave to her?
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I'd like to know what's in the water in the OC.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: What are these girls drinking?
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: I have no idea.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: And I don't think it's the alcohol. I don't know
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: what's going on down there. I mean, there's a lot of,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Stuff going on with the OC and the kids and
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: the whole thing. It's not like that on the East
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Coast where I live. I don't know what to say
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: this whole time.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: So what would you do if your cast member goes, here, Allie,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: here's a funny card game about how to do room jobs?
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't have even known it was inappropriate. I
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: probably wouldn't have read it. Like, I don't even think
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I would have opened the game. I think she would
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: have taken the game.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Okay, but if you found out, how would you have felt?
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I'd probably yell at her and say, what the fuck
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: is wrong with you? To the girl. I'd say, why
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: would you give my daughter that?
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: What is wrong with you? And then she would probably say,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: if she was smart, honestly, I didn't know what was
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: in it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Basically, that's exactly what happened. And that's Heather DeBros and
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: what the fuck is wrong with you. And she's like,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: was genuinely shocked. Right. She was.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: And that was fine.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: And you get it. And then you get a pass,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: you know, exactly. Do it on purpose.
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, what about. Okay. Now, Teresa last season, just blurting
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: out at a party. I heard a rumor that Jackie's
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: husband is cheating and he goes to the gym all
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: the time and that's where he cheats.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I thought that was horrible.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Which I also thought was alluding to the fact that
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: it was gay sex. Because if you're cheating on a gym,
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: maybe he could be had around.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think she would think like that. Would she?
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Who would? Teresa. I don't know.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I think Teresa was being a troublemaker, period, the end.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if a producer put that in
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: her head.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: Really? Yeah. Yeah.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: I've seen stuff. I mean, I've heard stuff like that before.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: How does it work? If it doesn't feel right, you know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I always say, first of all, trust your gut.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: And if it looks like a duck and a quack,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: it's like a duck, right? So do you think Teresa,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: in a normal scenario, would come in and say that
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: to somebody? No, I don't.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Well, in a normal scenario without TVs, do I think
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: that girlfriends call each other and are like, okay, have
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: you heard that, you know, Jesse's husband fucks around on her?
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: That does happen.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: That happens, absolutely.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: So basically that's what this is. Kind of rude to
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: do it at a party. But at the same time,
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: if it's not being filmed, it might happen.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: But we won't, like, I wouldn't say to you, Heather,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: I think Peter's cheating on you. I would talk to
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: your best friend and say, What do we do? I
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: think Peter's cheating on Heather.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Well, that's exactly what she did.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: No, no, but she was talking to her about her husband.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: No, no, that is exactly what Teresa did. She mentioned
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: it to a couple people at the party, but not
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: to Jackie.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought it was to Jackie. I only remember
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: the sit down on the sofa.
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: No.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: I remember the sit down on the sofa.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: And then it got back to Jackie and she was like,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I cannot believe that she would say this. But of course...
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: it's heightened 12 billion times over because it's not only
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: do we have to deal with this in our friend group,
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: but now it's on TV and the rumors out there.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: I don't believe it. So I think she made it up. Now,
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: do I think that a producer might've said to her, listen,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: we've heard a rumor about Jackie's husband. We need you to,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: we need you to say something. And I would question
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: the producer and I would be like, are you sure? Like,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: where are you getting the source from?
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Because if I believe the source is good, All bets
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: are off when you're on a reality show. I'm sorry.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: If it's a good source, it's coming in.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Okay. That's the show.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Don't sign up for it.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: No.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: You know? But I don't think it was true.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: I don't think it was true either.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: And just watching the way she said it, I don't
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: think she thought.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: It was true. But now Teresa is very upset. With Margaret,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: because she thinks what Margaret did is horrible, yet what
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Margaret did, it really was factual.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: It was actually factual. And a complete hypocrite because she
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: did the same thing a year ago. But that's the
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: name of life.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: And on last night's episode, I thought this was kind
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: of interesting, is she is like, well, we did tell
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: the older kids. Jennifer said this. So she sits down,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: her 14-year-old daughter, with the cameras... And is like, so
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: how are you doing now that you know that daddy
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: had an affair on me 10 years ago?
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I did see that last night. I was like working,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: but I was watching the show.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: As a mom who had a 14-year-old, right? Allie was
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: about 14 when you started. Yep.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I would never have done. First of all, I might
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: have done something stupid like that because back then I
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: didn't know better.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Now I do know better.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: And I think personally, they're going to end up divorced.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: They're not going to make it through. No way.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Jennifer and the doctor. No way.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Because he's got to hate her right now. Or he
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: loves the star's attention, and he doesn't care if it's
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: negative attention. You know what they say. Spell my name right.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe she loves the fact that she's the
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: star of the season. All the attention's on her. All
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: the interviews are about her. We're talking about her. I mean,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: she might be so narcissistic that she doesn't care what
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: it takes to talk about her. But if you were
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: a normal person, which, of course, nobody normal signs up
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: for a reality show, I can tell you personally... You know,
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: I think that it's getting worse and worse and worse
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: as I'm watching it. Like, now she said something really
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: evil about him last night. What did she say?
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: She said that he's an effing pussy for not standing
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: up for her when they were at the pool at
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Melissa's house fighting.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: And she said, I would do it for him.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: She said, I put him on a pedestal for 10
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: years and never let anyone speak badly about him. Until now.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Now you're speaking bad about him. Now you're ruining him.
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Now you're ruining him. I just, like, honestly, if she
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: wanted to save her marriage, she should have walked off
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: the show that day when Margaret came after her with
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: the husband and left and never came back, whatever it cost.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: And I would tell my husband, you're going to have
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: to pay Bravo. You're going to have to pay a
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: million dollars to them for the penalty of me walking
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: off the show. But I don't want you to ruin
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: your career because this is terrible.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: And I don't want to ruin my marriage. Unless you
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: secretly are okay if the marriage ends. And you might
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: have a whole other fun life with a new nose
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: and a new body. And your kids are getting older.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: You have to know something happened that he didn't do
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: on those.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: It won't be so bad being divorced. Why don't half
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: your friends are divorced? Who cares? Like, I'm just saying,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: maybe she's just like, I'm not going to throw this away.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: You know, whatever. We'll see. We'll see how hard he
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: wants to win me back. I put up with that
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: 10 years ago. I put up with it all these years.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: And you know they're not having sex.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Now it's my time to shine.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: They're not having sex. Definitely not. And he probably still
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: has a girlfriend. He looks too happy. You know? And
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I think that, you know, a lot of reality stars,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: they get much better looking. Like, look at all of
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: us from day one to day now. Every single housewife,
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: you know? So she looks better now than she did
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: when she started. She's thinner.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: She looks prettier.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: She's dressing better.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: She's got a stylist.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: So she probably doesn't have a prenup.
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I'm going to guess she doesn't have one.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, five kids... She'll do fine.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: It doesn't even matter, right, if she had one because
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: she'll do fine. So she might be like, time to go, bye.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: What if little Gia was going after Uncle Joe? How
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: would you feel if Allie at one point, like, went
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: after your sister on camera?
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: I was mad at Joe.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: You were mad at Joe?
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I was mad at Joe.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: This is, it's her father. What do you want her
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: to hate her father?
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: What if he's a loser or a piece of shit
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: or whatever he is? He's still her father. You know?
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: And don't talk about my father like that. And not
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: only that, and what am I supposed to do with
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: that now, Joe? What's she supposed to do? Say, you
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: know what? You're right. You're right. My father's a crook
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: and he's a this and he's a that.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: You're going to be my daddy now? You're going to
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: take care of me and pay for my wedding? You know,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying like, what do you want me to do?
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah. What do you want me to do? Good point.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Why is he doing that? Where does it go? Like,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I don't see the benefit. And that's why the other one, Melania,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: is so upset because she sees it.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, there's been so much back and forth,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: but I kind of feel like that both the Joes
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: have said nasty things about each other since Joe Giudice
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: got out of prison, back and forth in the press.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: But that's adult stuff.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: That's the adults. But they have it out.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: But I think that's where he's like, Joe Gorga's defense
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: would be like, I was defending myself and defending my
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: sister- And she sees it as, you're my uncle, don't
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: talk about my dad. So I get it. It's a
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: weird position to be in.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: And not only that, Teresa is taking the side of
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: her ex-husband.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, she's just kind of staying silent.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Because this is the father of her children.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: What's the alternative? To make her children hate their father?
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: No good. No good. And no good D goes unpunished,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: and here goes Joe, being a good, trying to be
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: a good uncle. But, you know, there's no good in here.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: I just want to say, I mean, Gia's nose job
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: and her little bit of work that she had.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: She had work done?
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: She had a nose job, but she's beautiful. I mean,
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: it really looks good. It really looks, she really looks cute. Okay.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Those eyes are ridiculous.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Beautiful girl. What about if some, what if you got sick?
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: like Yolanda did in Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: someone like Lisa Renna started talking about people are saying
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: that Jill Zarin has Munchausen's.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: She left the show. She left the show.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: Pretty much. Yes, she did.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: You know, she left the show because I would probably
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: leave the show too. Hey, I left. Um, It's really hard.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: It just shows you how hard it is. Going through
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: all these examples shows you how hard it is to be.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: On these shows.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Because they're real. The feelings are real.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: But what if you did have Munchausen's? What if you
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: were faking it and you were being found out?
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Well, it makes me think.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: Kind of like Vicky and Brooks.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: That's right. So you know what? If she hadn't brought
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: it up, maybe Vicky would have been with a guy
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: who was lying about this the whole time.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: If the cast hadn't pulled it out. Yeah.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, I thought Megan was this horrible person when
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: she did that.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Megan King Edmonds, yeah.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, she's the one who added it. And I thought
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: she was, how could you do this?
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: How could you?
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: This is so mean. But it was true.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, you know what? This is really juicy. So I
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: woke up this morning to a big treat. My DVR
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: had recorded Real Housewives of OC from 2012. Episode after episode.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: It's a marathon today.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah. it was just the golden era of like Gretchen
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: and Slade and all this. And I was just like dying.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: And in watching it, Vicky's daughter, Brianna was sick. And
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know if she had cancer, but she was
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: struggling with her health for many years.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: She's still sick.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: I think she isn't. She just had her fourth baby
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: and is like.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: And she almost, no, she almost like died.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: Well, she definitely had something real. Okay. But I was
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: watching how Vicky was reacting to it. And she was like,
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: I can't believe this is happening to me. She was
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: making it all about herself and everything. And, you know,
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: everyone was being very sympathetic to Vicki, that her daughter
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: was going through this.
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: Lupus.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, Lupus. She had Lupus. She still has it. And
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: then I thought, ooh, so when the boyfriend, Brooks, she
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: supposedly is going to go to her grave saying, I
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: had no idea that Brooks was lying about his cancer.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: I have a different view now watching this old episode. Really?
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: She already went through a loved one having illness, and
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: it definitely worked in her favor with her castmates.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, so she knew what it would feel like.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: It's that sympathy.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: No question.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: There was a.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Point where she knew, and she admits she knew.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: She does. She admits that she found out. She says,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: in the beginning, I didn't know, but then I found out,
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: but I was in too deep, and I couldn't get out.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: I couldn't turn around a lie. I think that's what
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: she's admitted to.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: What would you do if you're at a dinner party
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: at Kathy Hilton's house, and you were Sutton? And Erika
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: Jayne screamed at you. Well, no.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Wasn't Bethany?
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: You've been at Sutton a lot, actually.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: I've been Sutton. And it's bad. No, Sutton's a nice person.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: It's bad to be in that position and have Erika Jayne.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: It's bad to be at Sutton.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: You don't want to be Jill Zarin either. You don't
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: want to be with the Bethany coming at me. Yeah.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing, although I think this was worse.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I think Erika Jayne was really mean, was much meaner.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: The way she threatened her.
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, scary.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: She'll ever fucking do that to me again. You know what?
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: I'd get up and cry. she didn't get up. I
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: got to give her a lot of props. I'm telling you,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: in that moment, you want to get up. Well, you're
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: going to see on, I can't talk about, but you know,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: you're going to see on season two, there's a moment
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: where somebody holds my hand under the table and doesn't
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: let me get up because I want to run. And
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I want to run. I want to run away. And
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Sutton didn't have anybody holding her hands under the table.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: In fact, Everybody prior had said that they all agreed
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: with her, and then they all shut up, and she
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: was left out hanging by herself.
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Right? Didn't they all leave her hanging?
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: So speaking of.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Erica Jane— So she's very strong. I give her a
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: lot of props that Sutton didn't run.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: Now, listen. We know that there's nothing like Zarin Fabrics, okay?
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: And everybody talks, says it. And literally in these questions,
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: people are like, you know, love her or hate Jill Zarin,
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: that Zarin— Fabrics is like a legit above-board company. Yes.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: But what if you're in a situation where your spouse
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: was looking at all these crimes that you were not
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: aware of and your castmates and the world are thinking
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: that you were part of it, like Erika Jayne? How
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: do you react?
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: I would have given back all my Birkins. I would
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: have sold them all. Like, the minute this whole thing happened,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: just the visibility.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: Of my gross spending. And it is gross. You know,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: and I'm not going to, I'm a rich girl. And
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I can have whatever I want. It's gross. I mean,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: just the amount of stuff, the amount of hoarding, the
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: amount of crap. How much can you wear? That when
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: this came out, that that money was ill gotten. And
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying she knew about it.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I believe that she completely didn't know about it. I
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: think she married a rich guy. She married a rich
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: guy who gave her a platinum credit card and said,
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: go spend $ 10 million. And so she did. And she should.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: But once she found out. She should have said, I
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: am immediately. Because I couldn't wear 50 Birkins if I
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: wanted to. I'm going to keep five for myself.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: But I'm going to do something. I'm going to.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: So you'd give 45 away and keep five for yourself.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: I'd keep at least five for myself.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: But I would definitely sell my jewelry. I mean, I
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: would try to do something for these victims.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: Even if it's just, I hate to say it, even
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: if it's just for show.
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, there was like no, I don't know. But
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: maybe her lawyers told her she can't do that. That's admitting, like,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: she knew something. I mean, I don't know what her
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: lawyers say. But I'm just saying what my gut is.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: I think it was a combo of both.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: I think my gut tells me I would try to
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: do something.
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: What would you do? Oh, I would have immediately been like,
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: I had no idea this is– and I would have
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: been like, what can I do? Me too.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Same thing as me, right?
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Because I would have felt the same way and I
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: would have felt like I can– I can make money again.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't you want to? I would be like, I can
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: make the money again.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: He's a burn victim. Like, you know what I mean?
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Like this was the money he needed to take care
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: of himself.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: I would be like, take anything you want. I just
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: don't want to be in a position where I'm like
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: going to prison or also just the reputation.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: And it seems that she's not, by the way, it
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: seems that she's not, it seems like those very heavy
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: charges have been dropped and that this isn't a prison thing,
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: that she didn't do anything illegal. And now we're talking
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: about morality.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Um, This is, okay, speaking that you have a
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: dog that we love here. The Lucy Goosey Apple Juicy
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: Dog Saga of Beverly Hills. Let me remind you.
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: Lisa Vanderpump has a dog place.
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: And Dorit got a dog from there. The dog bit
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: PK's nose.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Is that what happened?
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: And she gave the dog to a friend of a friend.
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: Okay. The dog.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Beep. She shouldn't have done that. Right.
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Beep.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: She shouldn't have done it.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Okay. Let me just... So then the dog ends up
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: at a shelter to be put down. And they see
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: it's got a chip in her. It's got a chip.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Thank God.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: So they immediately call Vanderpump Dogs. Dog comes back. Lisa
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Vanderpump to this day says, I would never want this
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: information to go out because it makes... me look bad
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: too that the dog was almost killed thank god we
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: have the chip the girls all thought lisa vander put
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: this put the story out to make dorit look bad
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: there was still some rumors was it really dorit who
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: brought the dog to the kill shelter or is it
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: this you know this friend of a friend that eventually got.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: The dog first of all dorit should never have given
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: the dog away. She should have immediately returned the dog
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: to Vanderpump. And she should have called Lisa and said, listen,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: I had an accident. And whatever it is, maybe the
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: dog could have bit her child. Whatever it is. And
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: I would have called Lisa off camera and I would
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: have said, listen, I don't know what to do. Help me.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: Can you come get the dog? And that would have
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: been the end of it. And maybe it wouldn't have been.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Maybe it would have been on the show, but it
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have gone as far as it did. I think,
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: for what, I don't, I would love to ask Dorit,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: why didn't you just call Lisa? Why didn't, did she
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: ever answer that? Why didn't you just give the dog back?
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: I think her thing was, We're in this situation and
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: someone was at my house and immediately was like, we
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: can take the dog. And I think, yeah, she kind
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: of did what she thought she was doing a fine thing.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: But I don't think she followed the actual protocol of
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: what you sign when you get a dog from a place.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: It wasn't about protocol.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: But the protocol is going back to the place that
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: you got the dog. Everyone says that.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: So what crazy person did she give it to? So
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: now she gives it to a person who does give
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: it to a kill shelter.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Why didn't she give it back to Dorit? Who's the girl?
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: I want to know why she didn't give it back.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: That's why the mystery is still that's what like I'm like, OK,
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: so we never found out who this person is.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Well, that's a big problem.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: And maybe it was because Dorit then wanted to protect
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: whoever this person is. Maybe it was a really fabulous,
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: rich friend. Who cares? Maybe it was someone that was
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: really powerful.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you try to take down Lisa.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: Or maybe this was maybe there were some holes in
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: the story.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Well, this definitely holds on the story because we don't
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: know who she gave it to. And that is the
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: entire crux of the whole thing. Who is this horrible
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: person who gave the drug to the kill shelter? Because
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: it wasn't to read. And Lisa did nothing wrong.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: And also, I always thought, why would Lisa Vanderpump want
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: the story out?
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Of course she wouldn't. But besides that, Lisa is such
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: a good fucking person with animals that the benefit that's out,
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, will always fall with Lisa.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: I think that there were so many people that knew
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: this story from producers to assistants to whatever.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: But nobody cared about the dog.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: It was very easy to get out. But, okay, so
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: there you go.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: I still go back to this falls on Dorit for
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: not wanting to say who it was. So if she
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: won't say who it was, then you have to assume
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: it was her.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: You find out through one of your castmates that she
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: was going down on another girl who was married to
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: a man. We're talking about Brandy and Denise. Yeah. The
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: best scissoring scene that we never saw that ever happened
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: in Real Housewives Beverly Hills.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Pretty much, but I heard lots about it.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: So how do you react as a cast member? Do
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: you continually ask Denise, come on?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Denise has got to own it. You can't get
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: on a reality show and not on your shit. I'm
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: sorry you can't hide it.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: Even if there was no evidence of them, it wasn't
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: like they got together on a trip to Paris that
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: was filmed.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Definitely happened. This definitely happened.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: So you would be the Lisa Renna. Oof, you're so angry.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: You would continue to prod Denise until she admitted. Yes. Okay.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Feet to the fire. Because she got a million dollars
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: to be on the show or more. She's probably the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: highest paid housewife.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, do you think that's also what probably pissed them off?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: You bet.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: You bet. And you can't hide. Because you have to
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: know when you sign the show, anything that you've done
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: in your life. I mean, she was married to Charlie Sheen.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, anything that you've done in your life, you
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: have to know is coming out on the show. And
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: it's going to affect your children. It's going to affect
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: your parents. And you have to think about all that stuff.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: But when you cash the check, it's all in.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Got it.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: What about, this was one of the greatest scenes ever.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: This was when Camille. I need a cigarette. I need something.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Camille Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She had the psychic that.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: Not just a psychic.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: A medium psychic who was the inspiration for the medium
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: show that Camille and Kelsey Grammer actually produced.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: Didn't even realize that.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: Right. And this girl was there and she was one
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: of the first people that vaped. I don't think we
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: ever had seen.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Was that a vape?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it was like a prehistoric vape.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: She had an electric cigarette, which I think is what
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: we call a vape today.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: I just want to say one thing.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: She was wrong.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: She was wrong.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: She was wrong. She said that Kyle and Maurizio's marriage
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: was shit and she was wrong and she should eat it.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: She should come out publicly and say she was wrong.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: She also said to Kyle, you will never be emotionally
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: fulfilled or like intellectually stimulated by Maurizio.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: Wrong. Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: Wrong.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: And she said it with venom.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: She said it with venom and jealousy. She didn't say
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: it with. Kindness and sympathy.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: She's like, I know the day you're going to die,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: and I love that about me.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: What the fuck is wrong with her?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: Well, I interviewed... Dubrow.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: What's her name? Something Dubrow?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: Dubois.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: Dubois.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Anyway, her life didn't turn out well after that. Did it?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: Tell me. So I had Camille on my show, who's
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: really a cool chick.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: I love Camille Grammer. She is the coolest. Boy, did
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: he mess up.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: And by the way, someone just posted that he's doing
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: a meet and greet at a bar. They had a
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: flyer of him.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: They're like, wow, you went from sitcom TV to reality
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: TV to live.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: Stage to now a meet and greet.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Well, someone's got to pay for all those shoes in
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: his closet. Just saying.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: But he's got some high-heeled red bottoms, you're saying?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: Of course you know that, right? That's out. I'm not
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: outing that.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: No, she hinted at that.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: Hinted?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: She said it, yeah. She said it.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: She didn't hint it.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: Anyway.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Someone's got to pay for those shoes.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: Camille said that it was like the Dubois lady was
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: pretty horrified after and never really contacted Camille again. And
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: then the show ended and that was it. And no
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: one's like ever heard from her. No one could ever
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: get her on an interview. Like, Nothing.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Well, did she die? No, I think she's still alive.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: Is she still a psychic?
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: If somebody knows who she is, I'd love to have
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: her on Juicy Scoop.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: No, but is she still a psychic? Is she still working?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Well, we don't know.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: If you're still a psychic, I don't think you can
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: stop the voices.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Well, those voices were wrong.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: Wrong. What if you had a fabulous party?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: And your cast member asked you, I've got one question
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: for you, Jill Saron. Were people doing coke in the bathroom?
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: And they didn't invite me. I'm upset. Now I'm upset.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: What year are we in? If it's 1985, I'm upset
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: they didn't invite me.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: Yes. That was to Dorit. Dorit had a party. And
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: Lisa Rinna went. And at one point, Lisa Rinna was
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: stuck talking to an old male PR guy. Okay. And Dorit.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: I don't think she was thrilled about that. But so
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: then in Hong Kong, she said, before I go sell
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: a bunch of dusters so Harry Hamlin doesn't have to
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: do another fucking shitty movie in Canada.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: I love Lisa Rinna so fucking much.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: I've got one question for you to read. Were people
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: doing coke in the bathroom?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: Was that party on TV?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: The party we saw on TV.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Is what she's talking about?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: They ate outside at their Beverly Hills home. I remember that.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: Beverly Hills home. And at one point, one of the
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: girls goes, do you want to go to the bathroom?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: And they all got up and went to the bathroom.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: And the only people that sat there was Lisa Renna
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: and the old press guy.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: I remember that.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: I remember that.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, so she thought the whole table cleared out to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: go to the bathroom?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: Does she have a big bathroom?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. You don't do, by the way.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: You don't do what? You don't do coke? No, no.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: You don't take 10 girls to the bathroom to do coke.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Like maybe two at a time.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Maybe three upstairs in the bedroom. But that's it. You're
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: not clearing the whole restaurant out. But it's a funny
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: line to say, like, where'd everyone go to do coke
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: and they didn't invite me?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Which brings me back to a scene.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: You ready?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Let's do a throwback. It was Luann's engagement party to
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Jean-Luc or.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: I forgot his name. Jean something. It was French. The
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: French guy.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: And.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: They were engaged.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: Okay. I know they talked about having a baby.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that party was. It was an
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: end of season party. And it was for her friendship
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: with him. I don't know, the anniversary of their dating.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it was. But this is, I'll
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: tell you something. This is where a producer did tell
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: me something.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: And I always fell for it. I fell for it
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: every time. So the producer says to me, you're not
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: going to believe this. Like, don't say anything. But I
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: got to tell you this. We just filmed it at
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: Ramona's house. And she told Sonya that she thinks she's pregnant.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, are you kidding me?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: She's in menopause.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: She can't be pregnant.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: So she says to me, well, she's going to take
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: a pregnancy test on the boat. Because this is when
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: we went on this boat.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: The party was on the boat.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: So I was so naive back then. I mean, now
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: I know. I was so naive back then that I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: actually thought it was a secret.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: It wasn't a secret. I was supposed to do something
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: with that.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: So she poked me. So that she knew I'd react.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: So what did she say?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: Well, she said, you know, they're going to do a
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: pregnancy test in the bathroom.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, you mean the producer poached you?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Well, no, she prodded me because she knew I would
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: go crazy. Because of course I'm going to go crazy.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: She's not pregnant. She's in menopause. What an opportunity. So
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: I get on the boat. I tell Bobby, you know,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: you got to see what's about to happen. So we
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: get on the boat. And I remember the bartender, you know,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: what can I get you to drink? I'll have a
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: Diet Coke. And Ramona's like, I'll have water.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, my God, I can't. Like every young,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: potentially pregnant young mom does.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: Pinot Grigio wants to have water.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: So I go sit at a table and my eyes
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: are fixated on the back where they have to walk
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: past to go to the bathroom, where she has to go.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: And I see her and Sonia beeline to the bathroom.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: So I get up and I say to Bobby, Bobby, Gary,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: I say to Bobby, I got to follow this. I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: got to see what's going on here. So I go
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: to the back and who's standing in line to go
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: to the bathroom but Alex McCord. OK, so Alex is
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: there and she has no clue what's about to happen.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: And I and the cameras are there following me because
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: they knew to follow me because they knew I was
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: going to catch it because they're the ones who told
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: me if they didn't tell me that she thought she
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: was pregnant. Would I have even gone to the back
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: of the boat following them? Of course not.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: So the two of them are in the bathroom. Here
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: I go. Who's in there? What's going on? I'm trying
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: to go to the bathroom.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, we're in here. What are you doing?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: Coke in there? That's what I said on national TV.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: I said, what are you doing? Coke in there? Like,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: but I already knew that they weren't. And I knew
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: that the audience, I wasn't trying to hurt them. Like
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: I knew the audience.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: Knew what they were doing. Also cocaine would be bad
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: for the baby. Go on.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: And the cocaine would be bad for the baby. But
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: I also knew that the show was following this pregnancy story.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to hurt them at all. So I'm like,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: what are you doing? Coke in there? And they're like, oh,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: we'll be out in a minute. And I tell Alex,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you're not going to believe this, but I
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: think Ramona thinks she's pregnant. Anyway. So that was all
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: I did is I knocked on the door and said like,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: what are you doing in there? Why are you in there?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Blah, blah, blah.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: And then of course, later on when the show airs,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: I guess they followed the storyline and I do my
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: talking head and I'm like, pregnant she's in menopause.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: Yes i remember that yeah right.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: Anyway so i just got around i don't know why
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: i told you that story whatever okay oh the coke
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: right i said that too would it.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: Would you be offended you wouldn't be offended is basically
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: what you said.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Not you know what i wouldn't be offended if it
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: wasn't true if it was true i'd be very offended.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah like if it was true if it was true
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: if you did if you know i would die not
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: not necessarily treats What if you did have a party
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: and you did invite people that you know like to
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: dabble in the white lines?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: Right. And she was at the party and she was
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: kind of saying, were people doing coke in the bathroom?
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: How would you react thinking, I better protect some of
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: my party guests?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I also know that the show isn't
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: going to air any of these faces. I know that
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: they're not important to the story.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: And if my friends are stupid enough to do coke
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: or drugs while I'm filming a reality show, well, shame
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: on them. Like, they're putting themselves in danger. But by
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: the way, on another note... So how would you react?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: I'm just doing it.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: Did you... Were people doing coke in your bathroom, Jill Zarin?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I would make it funny and I'd be like...
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: And if they didn't invite me, I'm pissed. Like, that's
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: how I would answer that.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: Just being like, you're ridiculous.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Right, because it's ridiculous.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: Good one.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't get mad.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: No. Real Housewives of Atlanta. Woo! A couple questions here. What...
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: How would you feel about Candy inviting you to her
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: dungeon parties where, like, It's like basically a sex show.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: Are you down for that? Would you feel.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: Awkward in the audience? I'm not prudish at all. But publicly,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: I'd be prudish.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: And I think I'm like too old for it.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: And what about the bachelorette party? Cynthia's bachelorette party where
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: Bola came with his big dick. I hate that.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: I just don't like it. It's just not me. It's
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: just not me. If I can't have it, I don't
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: want it. Like if I can't have it.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: I think Portia got it, though.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: I think a few people got it.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: They might have had the three vaginas.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: The original stacked vagina happened down in Atlanta, wasn't it?
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: It might have been.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. Hilarious.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: But you know what I love about Candy?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: That she's so open sexually.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: I think that helps people.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: I think the fact that she does do it on
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: television and makes it very, like, normalizes it to a
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: certain extent, certain things, I think is really good.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: Well, she has... She has like a whole line of products.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: She sent me some and they're good.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: And it's a multi-level marketing thing. Like people will buy
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: it and then sell it. It's Avon.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: It's like Avon.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: So, you know, dildos for everybody. Who cares?
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: I think that she– I think she destigmatizes, you know,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: sex toys and stuff like that in a good way.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. How would you feel if Sonia Morgan also
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: started a rug company? And would you accuse her of
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: having a cheater rug company, a cheater brand?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: And she called it Sonia Zarin Rugs. You just called
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: it Sonia's Rugs. Sonia Morgan Rugs.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, there's enough room for everybody in every category.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: That's such a Christian thing for you to say that
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: you're Jewish. No, but how many wines are there? I mean,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: I always hated that, like, when Bethany and Ramona and
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: they would try to own a category. Like, I've got wine.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: You can't do wine. I've got soap. You can't have soap.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: It's like, what are you talking about? I can do
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: whatever I want. It's a free world.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: I think people realize that now because everybody has product
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: and everybody's on these houses.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: There's 120 housewives.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: Like, even on Real Housewives of OC, like, Gina is
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: going to have a skincare line. And they were poking
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: at Shannon Bedore. Are you jealous that she has a skin?
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: But I laugh at it because.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: And then Shannon's like, I've got that in the works, too. Like,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: someone's come to me with a skin care line. Like,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: Do you remember Atlanta when they fought, when they were
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: really serious about the exercise tapes?
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes. Oh, my God.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: That's so classic.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: The booty drop. It was Phaedra's booty. Yes, and Kenya Moore.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: And Kenya's booty.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: And they were really serious about it.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: And by the way, I have a skincare line coming
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: out shortly, too.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: You do?
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: Not a line. Yeah.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: Just a good day moisturizer with sunscreen and a cleanser.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: That's all you need. I don't think you need all
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: that other shit.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: Well, you know.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: And there you go. This is disgusting.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: This is Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. It was Whitney.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: The camera was too close. The camera was too close.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: Whitney and her husband in the scene I've talked about
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: a few times. Full naked boobs, just two little pasties
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: on the nips or maybe no pasties. They may have
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: just fuzzed out the.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: Nips and edit.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: So really naked in front. Do you remember when Ramona
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: and Mario?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, let me see.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Wait, hold on.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: Let me see Mario and Ramona. Oh, my God.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, look.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, Simon and Alex.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: And then Simon and Alex. I don't remember Simon and Alex.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: She got in lingerie, too.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: You know what I would have loved? I would have
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: loved if Mario said someone else's name by accident.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: Now, speaking of that, let's talk about a psychic thing
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: that happened on your show. You went to Morocco, and
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: the psychic said to Ramona.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: I was standing right there.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, tell me. Then you remember.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: The woman was covered in a shroud. She was in
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: a burqa, full burqa, head covered completely, speaking French only.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: So it wasn't like she was trying to get on TV.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: Like maybe Dubois was, I don't know. But like maybe,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: you know, this woman had no clue what was going on.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: And you got to remember, you have to go by
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: the translation of Kelly and Luann because it wasn't in English.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: Okay. Okay.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: But they both pretty much said the same thing. And
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: she talked about everybody. I don't even remember what she
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: said about me. But then she gets to Ramona and
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: she says to Ramona, your husband is thinking about a woman.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: And she's like, Yeah, and she's like, another woman. She goes, oh,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: my daughter. And we're all laughing, going, are you fucking
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: kidding me? Yeah, the woman's telling you that your husband's
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: thinking about your daughter. What is he, like a pervert?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's not what she means by thinking about.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: And just Ramona just shrugged it off and made it
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: that it was about Avery. That's what she did.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: And had you ever heard stuff just like Margaret heard
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: about Jennifer's husband? Never heard a word. You never heard
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: that he was unfaithful?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: I was fucking so shocked. I will never forget when
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: the New York Post, like, had that, not only that
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: Mario got a girl pregnant. That was the rumor. I
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: don't know if she was pregnant, had an abortion or
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: a miscarriage or she was never pregnant.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: All I know is that the New York Post said
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: that she was pregnant, that Mario got a girl pregnant.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: And I thought that was a lie. Like, I couldn't
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: even imagine him ever cheating on her. Like, Because she's
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: so rough and tough, I'd be scared she'd beat the
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: shit out of him. Like, are you kidding me? Like,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: how could he have the balls to cheat on her?
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: She'd kill him. I was just shocked. And I felt
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: bad for her. I did. Even though I hated her
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: at the time because she was so horrible to me.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: And he was so horrible to me. He was a
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: horrible person to me.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: Well, how was he horrible to you? He pushed me.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: He physically assaulted me.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: When?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: I should have him arrested. We were in the Hamptons.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: It wasn't being filmed. And I was with Jill Van Lokeren.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: From Oprah. She was one of the producers of Oprah.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: And two other producers of Oprah. And I was with Darren,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: who was back then my assistant. And Bobby was there,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: although he didn't see it. And I was at my
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: friend Paola's dinner party. And she has a beautiful buffet,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: Italian dinner party. And I'm in line holding my plate.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: We're all in line holding our plate. And Mario, who's
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: a little drunk, not very drunk, a little drunk, comes
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: up to me. He goes, I don't like the way
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: you talk about my wife. And he took his hand.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: He pushed me. He literally pushed me in front of
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: the three witnesses. I had three witnesses.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: And what did you do?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: I said to Darren, what do you think I said?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Go get Bobby!
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: Who do you think I said?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: Go get Bobby!
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: Bobby, yeah. What do you think Bobby did?
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Not much.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: Did he hurt you? You know, like, are you okay? Yeah,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: I'm okay. I'm fine. But, you know, so I said,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: you better go tell that motherfucker to, you know, get
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: away from me. And Bobby went over to him and
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: he comes back and he says, he's not going to
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: bother you again. And knowing Bobby, he probably just went
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: over to Mario and said, leave Jill alone. You know,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's all he probably did. But yeah, he
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: put his hands on me. That was like pretty.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: What is, I always think about like when the girls
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: have to explain their fights to their husbands that they're
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: having with their friends. And Peter likes the gossip about
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: my own life too. Like he's into it. But I
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: do wonder like, It must be weird, especially with New
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: Jersey where the men are so featured and they're actually
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: really friendly.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Don't eat the mic. Don't eat the mic. Heavy breathing.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: But is that... Was that ever, here's one moment that
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: wasn't on camera. Was it ever awkward for Bobby in
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: his relationship with the other men when the girls were
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: having issues? Like, does it affect their, like, being cordial
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: at a party or a reunion or whatever?
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: You know, Bobby never took the show that seriously. Yeah.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: He never did. He thought I took it too seriously.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: He's like, what's the matter?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: You know, like who cares?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: Like I remember when we were in Scary Island and
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: that was like horrible thing happened to me. Thank God
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: he was there. And I was hysterical crying and I
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: was like broken. And, you know, he felt terrible, but
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: he like couldn't he really didn't understand why I was
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: so upset.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: He really didn't understand. And now thinking back, I have
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: to say to myself, why was I so upset? Like,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: who were these people to me? Why do I care?
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: I just think.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: Why do I care that that got thrown out of
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: a house of people who hate me? anyway?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: I just think men and women are different. Yes. And
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: I think anyone will attest to the fact that their
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: husbands just don't understand why something affects them the way
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: they do. I think she wants water. Yeah.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: Sorry. If you can just grab a spoon.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: She's looking for it.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: So, I mean, when you guys would watch these, like,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: scenes of where they act sexy with each other, I mean...
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: Did they ever ask you to do anything like that?
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: And if they had, what would you have said? What
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: if they would have said to the producers, we want
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: to see how you and Bobby get intimate. We want
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: to see you in some lingerie. We're going to come
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: in the room.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: Knowing me, I probably would have said okay because I
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: never said no to a producer when they asked me
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: to do something. And I think that I'm not the
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: only one who could say that, that you want to
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: be a good girl.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: But I think what happens is, though, that the OGs
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: who have been on so long, they get a little,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: they start.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: To say no.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: They start to say, no, like Bethany was accused, I mean,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: I know this, that the girls were upset that she
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: wasn't pulling her weight, that she was being paid the
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: most and she wasn't showing up and she would show
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: up for five minutes or a half an hour. She
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: wouldn't come to things and the other girls really resented her.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: And I guess when you're on a show so long,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: you start to take advantage of that power of being
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: on a show so long. And that's one of the
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: reasons probably why they fire OGs so that they can
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: get them back in line. You know, it's kind of like,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: A psychology thing, but there's no question that when you're
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: on a show a long time, you won't do things
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: that you would have done at the beginning.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's kind of interesting that I remember
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: that scene in the reunion where Ramona was very annoyed
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: that Alex McCord did do a nude shoot. Because I
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: think it affected Avery being at her Catholic school or something.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: Did they kick out Avery or there was something?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: They did.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: And so I think she was looking for a culprit
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: instead of herself just being on a reality show. She
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: was like, it's my castmate who did this.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: It had to do with the show. It didn't have
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: to do necessarily with one person on the show. It
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: was just the show. It was just that she was
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: on the show. They didn't say, well, if Alex leaves
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: the show with her naked pictures, you can stay in
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: your Catholic school. No, it was that they gave her
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: a choice. And I have to tell you, I wouldn't
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: have done the same thing.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: Get off the show or stay? That's right.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: And so she left. They took her to another school.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have done that. But financially, I had the
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: choice to not do that. Maybe she didn't. I don't
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: know her financial situation. I mean, the shows back then
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: didn't pay well in the beginning, but they certainly started
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: to pay.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: But also as someone who has gone to Catholic school
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: and stuff and I, you know, offered my books and
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: can I do stand up in a charity event? And
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: they've literally said, no, you're not our brand.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they won't even let you talk at the graduation
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: because I was listening.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: It used to hurt my feelings.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: I don't blame you.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: But now I'm kind of like, oh, F you. So
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: I think in the case of Ramona now, she shouldn't
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: have pointed the fault towards Alex. But I respect Ramona
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: being like, you know what?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: I forgot that was the reason. You know what?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: Maybe this isn't the school for my kid. Maybe you
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: don't deserve my money. If I'm going to be all
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: morally judged for this from the Catholic church.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: But what if your daughter wants to go to that school?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: We don't know what is happy at that school. But
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: most of the time, kids will be like, you know,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: not most, at least with my kid. If I if
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: I was like, listen, my son's in a Catholic school
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: right now. And I said, listen, I can't do Juicy
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: Scoop anymore. You know, or you're going to have to
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: leave the school. He'd be like, then I'll leave.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right. Because that's how you make a living, too.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: And also like your kid cares about your happiness, too.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: So I I think maybe in retrospect, like screw this,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: this uppity school. And like I'm saying, really, the Catholic
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: Church has been seen.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: But by the way, she didn't own it. At the time.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: She didn't own it.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: She didn't say, you know what?
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: She blamed it on Alex.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, but I don't even mean on it
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: that way. She never, like, publicly said, hey, you know,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: my daughter got thrown out of school because of the
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: show and that was wrong. They shouldn't judge my daughter.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: Like, she didn't, like, tell them publicly, fuck you.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: Which I think she should have. Yeah. And said thank
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: you to the school that did take her daughter regardless
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: of her.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: Right, or like, I don't think I'm doing anything wrong
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: and therefore I'll put my money at a different institution.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: And also now, maybe also... That's the way people are
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: talking at the school that we're somehow morally corrupt. Oh, absolutely.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: I don't want my kid there. I don't know if
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: the parents, but I'm saying I'm sure there's a majority
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: that some of those parents are doing things in their
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: professions that aren't quite kosher.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: And how much did the Archdiocese of New York give
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: to sexual abuse victims?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: I can't even.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: Really? And I can't rub my husband's bare chest in
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: a red lingerie?
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: Listen, I always say never have an anniversary party on
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: a reality show unless it's an even number. I always
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: thought 17 wasn't a good year.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, she did the vow renewal. It wasn't just an
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: anniversary party.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right. I was like, don't do a vow renewal.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: And I said, 17 years?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: How do you do 17 years? I think she just
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: had nothing going on, right? The truth is it was
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: for a TV show. Of course she wouldn't have had
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: it if it wasn't. But I got to take advantage
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: of that and rub that in her face and say,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: 17 years, 17 years. You know what I mean? Even
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: though we all know it's because of the show.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: So, you know, it's what it is.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: Right. And you talked to Alex, and Alex and her
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: husband are just fine, Alex.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: McCord, right?
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: I haven't spoken to her in years.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you kept in touch with her.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: I did, but now it's years. You know what I mean? Like,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: I did for a couple of years, and they moved.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: I know that they're in Australia, but you know their kids,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: Francois and Johan, must be 18 feet tall.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: They are, yeah.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, really.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: Well, they're old.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: I know, but it's like, I look, if you go
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: back to season one, they were babies.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: If you threw, this is Ziggy, if you threw a
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: beautiful party, would you be upset if your girlfriend threw
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: a cake across the restaurant? That's the way she would talk.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, if we weren't doing a reality show, I'd
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: be upset. But since it's a reality show, I'd say,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: where do I send the check? Because you just made
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: the show interesting tonight. Thank you.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: Right, but then she did behave right. Because you're supposed
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: to be behaving as if cameras aren't there. So you
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: would be annoyed that your cake was tossed.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: So what about back in the day when people were
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: saying that Eddie, Tamara's husband, was gay, which I never believed.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: They're still together, you know. Yeah. But how would you
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: have reacted if that was the storyline that Gary.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: I would have defended Tamara.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: No, but let's say it was about you. How would you?
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: If they went after Gary's being gay?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Gary's gay.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: I would completely defend him, and I would say, if
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: he's gay, I want to meet the lover. I mean, like,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: bring him on. It's the same thing as the story
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: with the dog.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: I need to know, and now I'm obsessed, who got
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: the dog, who gave the dog to the kennel? Who
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: did it go from? It went from Dorit to someone.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: I need the missing link. So if you're going to
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: call my husband gay, bring me the guy.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: Like, don't just throw stones like that. You better bring proof.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: You better bring it. Bring it!
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: Right. And any time someone has accused someone of being
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: gay where it is true, there is the guy that
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: boned him, that has come through.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: Brandy and Denise, right?
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: She's the one. How could you say she's lying? Like
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: if she said, I know she's gay, she was with
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: Heather McDonald, for example, well, you don't have proof you
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: weren't there.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: But if I'm in the room and it's me and you, Heather,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: and I'm the one saying it, then it's true. Like,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: why would I lie? And possibly embarrass her boys. Do
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like that had to be
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: hard for her boys.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: But do you think, and I like Brandy and, you know,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: I know you just worked with her.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: I love Brandy.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: But I always will say, like, she just kind of
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: broke girl code in sharing it. But I think she
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: shared the information because Denise had blown her off and
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: she was hoping that she would be able to be
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: Denise's friend and be seen on the show more and
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: maybe eventually get back on the show. And by Denise
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: ghosting her, she was kind of left out in the cold.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a roundabout story.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: It's like a quick story, can I say? And if
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: you want to cut it out, you can if it's too.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: Just shut up. Okay.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: Nobody wants anything cut out. Someone's trying to get to
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: the other side. I'm trying to get to the other
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: side of the lake.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: A scorpion is trying.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: The tortoise is trying to get to the other side
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: of the lake. There's a scorpion there. The tortoise says
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: to the scorpion, can you give me a ride? And
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: the scorpion says, if I give you a ride, I'm
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: going to bite you. And you're going to die. And
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: the tortoise says, you're not going to do that because then,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: you know, you'll drown too. I'll take my chances. Gets
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: on the scorpion's back. They get halfway across the lake.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: Scorpion bites the turtle, the thing. He says, why did
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: you bite me? He says, well, what did you think?
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: I'm a scorpion. That's what I do. And they both drowned. Brandy, okay,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: years before, which Denise definitely saw the show with, um,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: In the very beginning, when she outed Adrian Maloof and
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: that situation.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: For having a surrogate, yeah.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: Whatever. You know, it was a scorpion. So why is
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: Denise surprised when she did it again?
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: Do you think it's a dog has her poo or something?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: No, someone's in the hallway. Bossy, come here, honey.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: Shh.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: She's just in the hall.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: Just pick her up.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: Just pick her up.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: Do you see what I'm saying? So you're dealing with Brandy, right?
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: You know who she is, right?
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: You think she's not going to do it to you?
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: Yes, I think you're not.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: I think this is your friend and you had a
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: fun night.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: I think that you have to know who you're dealing with.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: I know. She should have thought of that, but I
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: don't think it ever occurred to Denise.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: But don't do something you can't. you listen when you're
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: a celebrity And forget about Housewives. Denise on her own.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: When you're a celebrity, you have to know that anything
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: you do can end up on the front page of
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: The New York Times. Right.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: Or The New York Post or whatever. So whatever her
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: behavior is.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: I think she didn't realize that. I think she was
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: an actress who agreed to be on the show. And
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: this was something, you know, behind closed doors with no cameras.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: with a girl that she kind of enjoyed, that they
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: enjoyed each other that night.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, does it suck?
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: Of course it sucks. And I don't think she ever thought.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: And so then when it came out, just like a
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: Bill Clinton, her initial thought was like, no, it didn't happen.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: And then now.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: But then she should have rethought it and gone, you
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: know what, I got to own it.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: But once you've lied once.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: It's worse to then go, okay, actually, I admit it.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: I wasn't being truthful. It's like, no, you're just going
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: to double down, double down, double down. And that's what
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: she did. Now you're buried, you know, and now there's
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: no way out except to leave the show. And she left.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: She had to leave the show.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: Which makes her even look more guilty. But she tried
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: to save her marriage. Is she still married to that guy? Yeah,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: she is.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: Then let her be happy.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he wasn't that surprised but probably didn't like it.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: But what I think her mistake was was just her
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: initial being caught with everyone in camera saying, Well, I heard,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: you know, we heard that you slept with Brittany.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: She was ambushed. She was ambushed. She was ambushed.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was her initial thing was she was ambushed
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: and to lie.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: I would have probably done the same thing. I think
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: we all would.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: I think that's why she was really mad at Lisa
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: Renick because she was like, if you would have given
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: me a heads up, if you would have said, listen,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: this is what they know, blah, blah, blah. As a vet,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: I know I'm an actress, too, and you're an actress,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: and you probably didn't know what you signed up for.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: If they come after you, it's probably just best that
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: you go, blow it off that's why she was mad
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: because then and Lisa Renna at one point went to
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: her and was like you're right I did fuck up
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: I should have warned her I should have warned her
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: that was the whole thing you were my friend you
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: brought me on the show why did you ambush me
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: yeah because had Denise had warning then maybe she could
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: have sat back or even been counseled by Lisa of
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: like okay what do we do in this situation because
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: the lying we're always going to find out you know.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: It sucks and I feel bad that it happened. But
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: like I said, when you sign up for a reality show,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: you better really think hard about the secrets that you have.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: And we all have them. We all have them. That
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: if it comes out, that you can just live with it.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: Live with it. But the thing with Brandy is that
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: she was on my show before that. She said she's bisexual.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: Always.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: She said she's been with girls. So for her, she
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: had nothing to lose to tell.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: She's not embarrassed of being bisexual. But I don't think
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: it was about Denise being bisexual. I think it was
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: about Denise being married.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: Married and then also because.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: Because it is cheating.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: And also because her initial blurt out on camera was,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: it's not true. Right. That's the whole thing.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: Well, I would deny it too if I was lying
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: to my husband.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: And also a closet lesbian, right? She doesn't want to
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: admit it. But this is Hollywood. And I think there's
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: a lot of sexuality.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: So we're going to wrap up this episode. But you're
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: going to go to the bathroom and we're going to
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: continue to talk. And we're going to use it for
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: another show.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: I'm a prisoner.
• 1:31:52
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• 1:31:52
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  Speaker 4: Awesome. The car is beautiful. Where did you end up
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  Speaker 3: There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 6: Lift?
• 1:34:21
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