Latest / Scrubbing In with Becca Tilley & Tanya Rad / Dear Banya: It’s Tough in These Streets

Transcript

Dear Banya: It’s Tough in These Streets · Scrubbing In with Becca Tilley & Tanya Rad

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: and two times People's Choice Award winning podcasts.
• 0:10
  Speaker 2: Right, hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Hey everyone, everyone.
• 0:19
  Speaker 3: We are scrubbing.
• 0:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to replace it with something.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: Really, But if I'm like hello Tanya, Hello Becca, Hello.
• 0:30
  Speaker 3: Easton, Hello Mark, could we'll continue to work on it?
• 0:42
  Speaker 5: Is that a dog?
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: No, just a bark?
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: I was like, no, the whole point is I can't
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: get off of the podcast.
• 0:57
  Speaker 4: It's time for scrubbing.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: In the o R.
• 1:03
  Speaker 3: I want to join us and don't go too far.
• 1:10
  Speaker 4: All right, no more submissions.
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: We have a winner, just stolen from one of the
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: most iconic films.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: My favorite messages from somebody that was like, does scrubbing
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: and have like a budget? I feel like they have
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: an outdated jingle. They haven't outdated this. They don't have
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: mic flags, they don't have whatever. I was like, dang,
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: the answer is no, I sent you. Did I send
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: you that screen?
• 1:37
  Speaker 5: It was like, yeah, we have a Dear Bonnia episode today, Yes.
• 1:44
  Speaker 4: We do, and I want to start us off with
• 1:47
  Speaker 4: my Dear Bonia. I don't even know where I saw this.
• 1:50
  Speaker 4: Mobe's in our prep you might have seen it too. Anyway,
• 1:52
  Speaker 4: I thought this is a funny question. So would you rather,
• 1:55
  Speaker 4: but you have to one of these has to happen.
• 1:58
  Speaker 4: Would you rather walk in on your parents in bed together?
• 2:05
  Speaker 4: Or have them walk in on you in bed together?
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: Have them walk in on me.
• 2:08
  Speaker 4: Like, but not just in bed together like?
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: Yes you would? Yes, much better for me personally.
• 2:16
  Speaker 3: All right, Becca, this is really unfortunate. I think I'd
• 2:22
  Speaker 3: rather walk in on them.
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: Oh dang, why, I know, like a perverted answer. Really, yeah,
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: It's more perverted for them to want to walk in
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: on me doing it.
• 2:36
  Speaker 6: I don't nobody wants this to happen, it's just this happens.
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: I think I'd be able to like process it and
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: move on easier than they would.
• 2:47
  Speaker 4: I think I agree, yes, because it feels like the
• 2:51
  Speaker 4: awkwardness it was gonna be awkwardness either way.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: I guess, Mark, this is a horrible question.
• 2:58
  Speaker 4: Are the conversation I saw the summer I saw.
• 3:05
  Speaker 3: Taking a step further? What position?
• 3:14
  Speaker 4: All right, fine, let's just going to the normal deer bond.
• 3:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, just move on, let's move on. Answer please, I
• 3:24
  Speaker 6: guess I'd rather have them walking on me.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 3:28
  Speaker 6: Better because since we didn't say what position, maybe me
• 3:32
  Speaker 6: and my wife are just holding hands all right?
• 3:36
  Speaker 4: It was a split decision.
• 3:38
  Speaker 3: Better like doing like you know you're.
• 3:42
  Speaker 6: Actually like mid coitus?
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, you are just holding hands?
• 3:49
  Speaker 6: Isn't that how it's? Is there another way?
• 3:53
  Speaker 4: Yes? Childless From Anika High, Banya and Meston Day one
• 4:01
  Speaker 4: scrubbery here, I just want to start saying thank you
• 4:03
  Speaker 4: for making me laugh every week. I truly admire the
• 4:06
  Speaker 4: relationships you all have with your significant others. I'm going
• 4:09
  Speaker 4: through a breakup after five years and now I'm thirty.
• 4:12
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to reflect them, but I want moving forward.
• 4:14
  Speaker 4: My question is, how do you actually know when someone
• 4:16
  Speaker 4: is the one? People always say when you know, you know,
• 4:20
  Speaker 4: but I'd love to hear your take on it. Becca
• 4:21
  Speaker 4: and Tanya. You both seem so happy in your relationships,
• 4:24
  Speaker 4: and I love how you talk about your partners with
• 4:26
  Speaker 4: so much love and respect. It's inspiring and makes me
• 4:28
  Speaker 4: want to hold out for that kind of connection and
• 4:30
  Speaker 4: not settle. You also seem like you never get sick
• 4:32
  Speaker 4: of each other, even though I'm sure you have your moments.
• 4:35
  Speaker 4: Any advice on how to recognize your person would be
• 4:37
  Speaker 4: greatly appreciated. Ps. I recently cleaned my water bottles because
• 4:41
  Speaker 4: I was pulling a Tanya. Love you guys.
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: Wow, the fact that that's now called I'm considered pulling
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: a Tanya.
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe Anika can inspire you to wash your ball.
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: I watched it probably twice since we've had that conversation.
• 5:00
  Speaker 6: Not enough, it's.
• 5:01
  Speaker 4: Okay to start.
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the straw is often yes, yeah, great, great, great.
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: Just to be clear, do you want to answer?
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think I know the answer, Like, how do
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: you know they're the one? I feel like with Robbie,
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: I literally knew very quickly that like my inner beings
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: told me that he he was it.
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to say that it was the
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: same thing, like, it's not really something that I have
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: it that was specific of like I knew because she
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: did this. There's more something that happened like in my
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: like brain chemistry or something where I was like, And
• 5:47
  Speaker 2: I also think that one thing that I will say
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: is that any of the problems or issues that we've
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: had to navigate or work through, it hasn't felt like
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: a burden to go through the work.
• 5:58
  Speaker 3: Of navigating those things.
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: It's been like, I want to work on this as
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: opposed to it being like I have to work on this.
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: It's been like, Okay, I want to be with you,
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: you want to be with me, and that's like that's
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: what's happening. So how do we make it as like
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: healthy as possible? And I've wanted to do that as
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: opposed to feeling like it was a burden in our relationship. Yeah,
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: which I feel like is if it's not the right person,
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: that going through things and working on things feels like
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: a heavy burden, a heavy lift, I think for me,
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: I guess is what I'm saying.
• 6:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's what I would say. How do you
• 6:35
  Speaker 5: what do you think it is?
• 6:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, I agree that it's a there's not like
• 6:39
  Speaker 6: a specific thing. But I think back to this. There's
• 6:42
  Speaker 6: this quote from Kieramo do Toro that I really like
• 6:44
  Speaker 6: about art, and it's art. The definition of art is
• 6:48
  Speaker 6: what would you risk to be in its presence? And
• 6:51
  Speaker 6: I always think about like I just couldn't imagine life
• 6:54
  Speaker 6: with that, Like when I'm with Alison, I'm like, I
• 6:55
  Speaker 6: can't imagine doing anything without you, and I would risk
• 6:59
  Speaker 6: everything just to be in your orbit. Yeah, And I've
• 7:03
  Speaker 6: never felt that way about anyone else. And that's the
• 7:05
  Speaker 6: fact that I popped into my head. It's like the sign,
• 7:07
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I literally don't get sick of him. Like
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: I can literally have Robby next met twenty four to
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: seven and never get sick of him.
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he gets in my lap all day, I'd
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: be totally fine.
• 7:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, lose feeling in your feet, but you're fine day
• 7:22
  Speaker 4: the way around.
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: Like I could sit on his lap all day long
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: and I'd be like, perfectly fine.
• 7:27
  Speaker 4: I remember the revelation we had been together three years. Remember,
• 7:29
  Speaker 4: my wife was very young when we started dating, so
• 7:31
  Speaker 4: I wanted to have a long I wanted it a
• 7:33
  Speaker 4: long time because I didn't want her to feel like
• 7:34
  Speaker 4: she got married too young or didn't see anyone else,
• 7:36
  Speaker 4: or made a mistake. So after we began together three years,
• 7:39
  Speaker 4: I remember thinking, am I going to propose to this?
• 7:42
  Speaker 4: It's really is she the one? And I thought to myself, well,
• 7:46
  Speaker 4: what's the opposite? What's the alternates? The alternate is we
• 7:50
  Speaker 4: break up and go and lead separate lives and never
• 7:52
  Speaker 4: talk to each other again. And that was laughable and
• 7:54
  Speaker 4: inconceivable to me. There is no way that is my future.
• 7:58
  Speaker 4: That Amy's just another person in the world that I
• 8:01
  Speaker 4: think about every once in a while, but liv a
• 8:02
  Speaker 4: girl in life completely separate from me, There's no way
• 8:05
  Speaker 4: that's the case. And that was it. I knew, Okay,
• 8:07
  Speaker 4: this is it, this is the one, and I'm going
• 8:08
  Speaker 4: to propose.
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that makes sense to me. And I resonate
• 8:13
  Speaker 2: with that because I remember when think that when some
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: certain people found out about my relationship with Haley who
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: were important to me, and they weren't super receptive or accepting,
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, so, what's the alter, Like I either
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: do what they want or and I don't have Haley
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: in my life. And I was like, I can't even
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: fathom that. And I was willing to have to go
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: through a hard time in another relationship with someone who
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: I love and care about so much to be with her.
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: And I think that was the moment where I was like, oh,
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: this isn't like a fleeing or something I could just
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: like forget. And I remember I've said it a lot,
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: but I always was like I knew I would never
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: stop thinking about her if I wasn't with her. And
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: I think that's kind of the thought, which is basically
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: what you just said in different words, like the thought
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: of her amy, doing being with anyone else doing living
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: life felt like there's no way I'm not a part
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: of that her life.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, so that's it.
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: That's how you know. Hope that helped a very confused
• 9:12
  Speaker 4: and hurt scrubber sent us this one. Hi, Becka, Tanya Mark,
• 9:15
  Speaker 4: and Easton. I'm a longtime listener living in a small
• 9:17
  Speaker 4: town in Manitoba, Canada. I bet that's nice up there.
• 9:21
  Speaker 4: I'd like to see Manitoba, Canada. I'm a thirty two
• 9:23
  Speaker 4: year old single mom of two boys, both under the
• 9:25
  Speaker 4: age of ten. One is named Easton.
• 9:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 9:29
  Speaker 4: My ex husband and I separated in twenty twenty three
• 9:32
  Speaker 4: and have reached the end of our separation and divorce process.
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: I started doing my boyfriend a little over a year ago.
• 9:37
  Speaker 4: We dd it for five months before introducing him to
• 9:39
  Speaker 4: my two boys, and it's been mostly smooth sailing. My
• 9:42
  Speaker 4: boyfriend is thirty seven, has never ever wanted kids of
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: his own, which I've known from the beginning. I don't
• 9:47
  Speaker 4: want more kids either. I may have assumed incorrectly, but
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: I assumed that even though he didn't want children of
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: his own, he wouldn't date someone with kids if he
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: was opposed to attending kids' events like soccer, taekwondo, et cetera,
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: and eventually years down the line, having more of a
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: step parent like role. When I've asked him why he's
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: so unwilling to attend these things, his response is usually,
• 10:08
  Speaker 4: this is exactly why I didn't want to have kids
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: on my own, or why would I want to go
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: to that. I tried to explain to him that my
• 10:14
  Speaker 4: kids have asked why he can't attend these events, and
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: I always have to lie and say he's working. He
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: always makes it seem like I'm asking for the end
• 10:21
  Speaker 4: of the world, and I'm not sure that I am.
• 10:23
  Speaker 4: The boys want him there because they love him and
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: they want him to be there to support them. I
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: feel so confused. I'm sure i'd handle the situation. I
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: love him deeply, which is why it's been so hard.
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: An the insider opinions would be greatly appreciated. A very
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: confused and hurt scrubber. It's not great.
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: It's not great.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: The thing that immediately popped up in my mind is
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: I feel.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Like when.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: You're in a relationship, there's that like teammate and partnership
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: that comes along with it, and I really tell you,
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: you're the only person who can speak to this in
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: the room really in terms of like being the person
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: coming into someone's life with kids.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: I think the thing is that he's not. So I
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: think every situation's different. I don't think every step parent
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: or step parenting role looks the same. I think it's
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: dependent on your partner and that what they want that
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: role to be. So in my case, Robbie did want that.
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: He really wanted me to be a very active part
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: of the kids' lives, and I wanted the same thing.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: We were really like the word sympatico in that, and
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: so that's kind of where that's where we took the role,
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: my role with the kids. And it's hard because you're
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: the mom and you want your partner to be involved,
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: but he really doesn't want to be involved. So I
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: feel like you guys have to maybe make some sort
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: of compromise because I also think too, if he doesn't
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: want that responsibility, he doesn't want kids, he doesn't want
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want that responsibility of even being a step parent,
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: then maybe there's a compromise you can make. Maybe doesn't
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: come to every game, maybe he just comes to like
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: one here and there or you know, like does not
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: have to be all in or all out. I feel
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: like he's all out?
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: Is it? Is there an element of I don't want
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: to be around your ex husband, I don't want to
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: be the new guy and everybody staring at me. Is
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: there something there? Like I have maybe hard to believe
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: he has no interest in watching your kids play soccer.
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: Especially if he's building a relationship. Yeah, especially if he's
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: building a relationship with them.
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: I think he just I think he doesn't want kids
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: and he probably gets to have her fifty percent of
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: the time by him, by herself, and he probably is
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: like I told you from the beginning, I didn't want kids,
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: And I think she's totally valid in being like, then
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: why would you date me if you weren't going to
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: have any participat participation in my kids lives?
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: He is having participation in their lives because she's saying
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: that they love him and they want him to come.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: So he's clearly like hanging out with them at some point.
• 13:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: But if he I know, but if he cares and
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: loves them and he and she's saying they want you
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: to come to their events, wouldn't he go oh, like
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: in his mind, it's like, oh, yeah, that I didn't
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: really I don't really want to go to a kid's
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: soccer game, but like I love these kids and this
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: is what they want from me.
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: Yea, how do I show up for them? I don't
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: think this guy's your person.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because I'm not like your guy.
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: I get.
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: I understand his view on like if he doesn't want kids,
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: but why would you date someone who's who's very much
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: in that in that and has kids and not be.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: Able to show up for them?
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: Because some people who are in that role like don't
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: have to be like that. Like I don't really know
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: any examples, but like I'm trying to think of like
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: a famous couple that just to give a good example.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: While you're thinking, I'm saying, like if she's can mean
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: if if this was at the very beginning, like let's
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: say last week was the first game, and he was like, yeah,
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not really into that. I don't want to go
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: to kids' sporting events, and then she's like, Okay, now
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: I have to reassess what this is. But this is
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: not the first time it's happened. He has like consistently
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: not been going and she's probably communicated like, Hey, the
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: boys really want you to come. I'm having to lie
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: and say that you're at work. And if he's still
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: not able to go, like, oh, like I should show up.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: I'm in these kids' lives like I should show up,
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: or they're when they're doing something that's important to them.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think this is the type of guy that's
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: going to be a partner to you or a teammate
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if that's important.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: Again, it's just like, yeah, it's hard with these emails
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: because you want to give everyone the benefit of the doubt,
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: and I'm trying real hard to give this guy the
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt. But who doesn't want to go
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: see random kids off the streets are kids that you
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: know and watch them play soccer or dance or whatever
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: it is. It seems to me like I'm going to
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: see my friend's kids game. Yeah, our neighbors kids have
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: gone see Like it's just something to do when it's fun.
• 15:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, it's like showing up for kids,
• 15:05
  Speaker 7: like kids seeing people in your Like if people like
• 15:09
  Speaker 7: my aunts and people came to my events when I
• 15:12
  Speaker 7: was in school, I remember being like, oh my gosh,
• 15:14
  Speaker 7: like my, oh.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Want to go to yeah, sporting them?
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you?
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: So I I again, we only know what we've gotten
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: this email about. But I think that you deserve someone
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: who's going to be a to and I think maybe
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: if there's, if there hasn't been a sit down conversation
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: about that it's important to you and that it's important
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: to the kids, then have that conversation. And if he's
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: not willing to compromise and be able to show up
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: for them and you, then I don't think this is
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: your personal or.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe we understand the root of why he doesn't want
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: to go to these events. Maybe we start with that what.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: The root seem like?
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: He's just like, yeah, I don't want kids.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: But also there's gonna be stuff he wants you to
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: go to that you don't want to go to. Right,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know what that is. Let's go watch with
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: the boys. I don't want to do this, but fine,
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: you know is what we do.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Relationships, It's part of life. But that's the part of
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: being like a team. And this guy doesn't feel like
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: a team with you.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: No, he's got an iron team and that's just the
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: team have.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: An iron team.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: You can't, Tanya, did you come up with a celebrity
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: couple analogy for this particular situation?
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: So I was saying, I was thinking maybe like Jennifer
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Lopez and Ben Affleck, but it didn't quite work. Oh,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Jlo has kids, ben Affleck has kids. But I do
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: feel like even Jlo like showed up to ben afflecks
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: kids stuff and vice versa. Probably so, No, I don't
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: know any step parents that do not attend any of
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: their children's step children's festivity effort. Yeah, thank you, A
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: good idea. I tried, Dakota Johnson. I don't know those
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: kids are older.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Than you for working on it.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: While you're thinking about it. We're going to take a break,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: all right. We are back with more burning questions.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Different religions, Tanya, this question is mostly for you, it says,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: I mean day one, Scrubber was so happy of you
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: when you met Robbie and finally became a wife. I
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: was in a two year relationship with a man I
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: love and care for so deeply. I am born and
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: raised devout Catholic and he was raised Hindu, though he's
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: not necessarily religious. We recently broke up because we couldn't
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: come to a conclusion on how our wedding would look
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: combining traditions, etc. Can you share a bit more about
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: how you and Robbie had discussions around your different faith backgrounds.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: I'm heartbroken and really hopeful we can find a way
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: to come back together. Lots of love, Anonymous.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: They broke up because they couldn't figure out read that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: line again, they couldn't figure out how to have a wedding.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: That combines the traditions of Catholicism and Hinduism.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: And that broke them up.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Apparently, she says, we broke up because we couldn't come
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: to a conclusion. That makes me sad, But maybe I
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: think it's a bigger picture thing, like, well, if we
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: can't even figure this out, how are we going to
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: figure out how to raise kids together and all these
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: other things? You know?
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that when it came to faith and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: traditions and everything that comes in that realm of things,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Robbie respected mine and I respected his, and we kind
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: of took like an all hands on deck approach. We
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: celebrate all the things, we incorporate all the things. It
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: really and we really wanted our wedding ceremony to be
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: non denominational. We didn't want it to be fully one
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: way or the other. And it was like the easiest
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: thing that we've done, Like we didn't have fights about it.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: It was literally just like what traditions, what do you
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: want to have? What do you want to have? And
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: then we both said great love it, great love it
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: did it? Like I feel like we just approached it
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: from a place of just like love and understanding on
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: both sides. We never truly haven't thought about it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: And I wonder if so if they approached this from
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: a different way where he would suggest something that she
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: say something like, oh, my grandparents are never going to that,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: and vice versa, he's like, oh, my family is not
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: going to want that to happen. You know, maybe that's
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: there's too many cooks in the kitchen.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe I also think they're like, you are very committed
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: to your faith, and so is Robbie.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: But I also think.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: That if you're devout to your religion and your family
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: is really intensely developed to their religion, and you're thinking
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: about what is our family going to think, what's grandma
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: going to think? Who's a devout Catholic? I think you
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: get in your head about that. But I think if
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: you're like I think y'all have done such a beautiful
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: job at like honoring each other in your religions and
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: also being respectful and also being.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Willing to learn, I think you have to kind of.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Drown out the noise of what's everyone else gonna say
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: and think, Yeah, and if it's if that's what it is,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: if it's your own inner inner self, or you know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: whatever it is.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: You're so right about that. It's like, I do think
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: that there's a lot of external noise that comes in
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: when especially when it comes to faith and traditions, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you do have to just completely block that out and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: it has to be just the two of you and
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: like what you want to do.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: And also be able to like be sometimes you have
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: it's it sucks to have to be the one to
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: be the example in your family of being like, this
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: is what it looks like to respect and honor other
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: people's religions who don't believe the same way as you. Yeah,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: And it's hard because when you have a really strong
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: dynamic with your family and you've agreed on everything thus far,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: and they have expectations about who you're going to be
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: with that could be a challenge. It's not as easy
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: as just like, oh, block it all out, Like I
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: know that's a challenge, But I think if you know
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: this is the person that you're supposed to be with,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I think there's room for you to let yourself grow
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: and you know, focus on you and your relationship and
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: not the external noise.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting because it's a question that I
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: get asked a lot inner faith relationships and how we
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: make it work. And I'm like, it's so interesting because
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: it's literally just both of us honoring and respecting each
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: other and creating our own traditions. It's never been truly,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: we've never had an argument over it.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I think if it gets to
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: a point where you're only arguing about that, then maybe
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: he's not your person. You know. Maybe if it's that
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: important to where y'all can't move forward and you both
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: are stuck in that fight, you're just gonna grow resentful.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: And I don't think.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I think if you grew resentful about it, then you
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be a to have a healthy relationship ever. So
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I think that you you know, have to figure out
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: where where the hesitation is coming from. Is it from you,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Is it from your boyfriend or is it from your
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: family and other people?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Huge, you the best.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it can work.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Inner faith marriages are blessing. I think the more the merrier. Yeah,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: celebrate so many holidays in our house.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: They all are always celebrating.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like constant celebration.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Jody would x INMLA Recommendations Day one Scrubber Here, I've
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: been meaning to reach out for some time to let
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: you know your how about your podcast is meant to me.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Through your stories, laughter, support and genuine friendship, You've brought
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: an incredible sense of light and joy into my life,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: and I wanted to thank you from the bottom of
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: my heart. You all helped me smile and giggle through
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: the pandemic when my fiance was deployed for a year.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: In the morning commutes to work. I look forward to
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: new episodes every week and find myself re listening to
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: old episodes when they need a little pick me up.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: My best friend and I love talking about the podcast
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: and even write in cards. You're the Becka to Tanya.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I'm also reaching out for some advice. I'm flying out
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: to la in a few weeks for a work trip
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: and extending my stay for a few days to explore
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: the city. Any recommendations of what to do and where
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: to eat, I'm open to anything, but will be for
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: sure hitting in and out while I'm in town. I
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: appreciate your thoughts. Hope you have a wonderful week. Love Jody.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: That's Jody.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I we may have to turn it over to Easton
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: for this to ask.
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: No, literally, I think I'm the worst person to ask
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: because we just had a friend that was in town
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: from like, uh somewhere. They first time in LA and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: they're like, where should we go? And I was like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I know, I'm really bad at
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: this Universal Studio.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: It's like, well, there's some variables Jody that you're gonna
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: have to maybe have to DM me because it's like
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: where you're going to be into. Do you want to
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: see where movies are made? Do you want to see
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: where famous people have lost their lives? Do you want
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: to do you want to eat weird food? Do you
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: want to have good food? Do you want have bad food?
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Like this?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Want to be in like touristy area?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: Because I love I love that kind of stuff. I
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: love the Walk of Fame. I love Hollywood Boulevard. I
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: love that that's gotten so gross. It's so it's grimy,
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: but that's what I.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Like about it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: By the way, when I first moved here, and even
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: when I came to visit here before I moved here,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: how Boulevard was fine, you know, just the street, lots
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: of tourists. Yeah, stars. Now it's Times Square, but in
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: a smaller area, like it's very crammed. The sidewalks are
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: packed and there's just it's just seed. It's just kind
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: of gross.
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Over crowdress up as Spider Man.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: People in costumes, lots of people just trying to get
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: money out of you. Yeah, I would.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Say you should for sure go to Santa Monica, the pier. Yeah,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: it's like iconic places game end.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Of Route sixty six.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Go up the promenade while you're over there.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe go to Venice, Muscle Beach.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Everything's like closed off. It used to be like amazing.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Oh really, I would say, if you're gonna do mod
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: hit A Grove or Maritana is good.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: What about the Magic Castle least? And should you go
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: to the Magic Castle.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: If you can get in that is hard to get
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: in it's very cool, even if you just want to
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: drive by and check it out. Though, Yeah, do you
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: have a car? Are you going to be ubering everything another?
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: We might need you, Joe, do you need a.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: D M E d M at Easton? Allen, send me
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: a d M and I will. I will plan your
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: trip for you, every moment of it, even the work parts.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: Where's your work event? What conference center is that in?
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: I'll find something cool for you. You'll find something walking
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: distance from Yes, yes, I will his specialty.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: We have one more, but first, all right, we're back
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: for a finale question.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: It's a fun one.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Becca, Hey Tanya.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: Hey Mark, Hey Easton?
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Is that the first time?
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Hey Tanya, Hey Becca, Hey Easton, Hey Mark.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: It's scrubbing in.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Zerom In.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere.
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: It's time for the show.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: We have a good one.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Well, Courtney's email starts scrub dub dub in the tub,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: dub tub, Thank you Courtney.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: She actually didn't say it, well, she said scrub.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: A dub dub with a scrub Becca Eastern Marcantania. Oh, Tanya,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: it's the lowest billing scruested for all four of you.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: You probably didn't have abutical order yeah, she might.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Have, and it could be fun to write down your
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: answers before sharing with one another. Okay, good, you's got.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Pins over here?
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Uh? Which grade character from any of the twenty one
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: gazillion seasons? Do you think each of you are most like?
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: And why? Answer for yourselves and one another? Thanks from
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: a day one scrubber. This is gonna be hard for Easton.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm still gonna participate, though.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: I'm still doing all right, and we're write down me
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: and then you write down everybody else, right.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, okay, I'm having to go gut instinct because
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I'm rushed.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, that's fine, that's better.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: I think initial reactions?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: What kind of what I did?
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: Do?
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Ready, who's going to start? Mark?
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Should we do each person one at a time?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: All right? Tanya? You ready? Becca? You're still writing? Yeah,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: I'm good, Tanya. Who do you think you? Well? No,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: have everybody else? Say Tanya, and then she'll say, who's you?
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: I have April Kepner. Tanya is most like April Kepner.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Oh interesting, I went easy.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: I thought of definitely thought of, I said, tarn Helm.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, I couldn't be further from Becca has a match.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I went with Izzy.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I did consider eazy. But how do you
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: feel about.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good? It's pretty good. But I kept most
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: mine o gs.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: So oh well, because you have Washington ten years April Kepner. Okay, okay, fine,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: uh Becca, I we should save Becca. Let's go Eastern
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: next Easton?
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Who uh?
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: I put for Easton? Easton was a hard one for me.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I put Levi. Oh my god, I almost is a
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: kind soul.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I almost.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: But I actually put George George because when he becomes
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: he thinks that he has like he seems like he's
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: going to be nervous, but then he ends up being
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: one of the best surgeons and like everyone loves him
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and protective.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Georgia Malley as well. He's good.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: It looks cool as hell.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: He was on the podcast.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Oh yes, I remember, Yes, I.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Remember, and even shot a little video with us.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: Yes, he did. I remember that very well.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: Tr night, I said that I was Mick dreamy. Yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: I could see that. Yeah, you've kind of got the
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: hair of the scruffy.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: And I'm a really good race car driver.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definite, all right, what about me?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: So, oh boy, I braced myself.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I went with Miranda Bailey.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Interesting.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like she's been around the whole time. She
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: keeps everyone in line, she keeps everything going. She's like
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Oregon I and she's like the fearless leader.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I'll take that. Yeah, I'm happy with that.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I was. I had you first as chief, but like
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I had a web. Yeah, Marana Bailey's better.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like it better.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: This one's controversial, but it's I'm going to clarify, I said, Owen,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: but before he cheated on Christina, so he was like
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: a leader in the O R and everyone was coming
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: to him to learn. But this was before he cheated
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: on Christina, before we became, before we hated him. Yeah,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: so I had to, I wrote before the first season, first.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Season, Owen, Okay, all right, just.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: To clarify, I hated on from the start.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: No, you didn't know I did.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Actually, no, I don't believe that we are we did.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I didn't start hitting him till you chewed on Christina.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I hated him from day one.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: He's been on the show for one hundred years. It's
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: basically East who do you think I'm most likely in
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: the show? You don't watch, so I apologize.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: I could only name a few characters on the show,
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: so I had to kind of pull from that. So
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: I think you are most like Meredith Gray.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Because you are.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: You do hold it very leadership role on this podcast
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: and in my life, and I look up to you
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: as the name of the show. Thank you, Mark's Anatomy
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: over here.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Very nice? All right, Becca, what did you say for myself?
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: I said, Alex Karev.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Almost like Correv, like Alex Corre in torture.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know I related to him for some reason.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: The other person I put down to Tom Carrassic. I
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: think it's kind of I get that too.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see he's too cranky, but he's sarcastic.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: He's funny.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's funny.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I just I think Branda Bailey wins.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: I like him, Marda Biley, and I'll think of that.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I watch it, all right, Becca, telling you who you say.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: For Becca, it's so obvious Meredith Gray. She's so Meredith Gray.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Like Meredith Grey.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: She's depressed like.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: She didn't used to be. She didn't used to be.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: She didn't used to be, she did not used to be.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: She loved her friends, fearlessly. She was like the best
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: friend ever to Christina Yang. She would like chew guys
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: up and spit them out, like had no feelings whatsoever.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Like you could do that for a really long time
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: to remember. You would like all these guys were like
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: falling all over you, and you're like, who, she's so
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Meredith Gray.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: This might be a little on the nose, but I
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: have at Arizona Robins Classic, thank you.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: I did a beloved character Cass Beckman played by Sophia Bush, because.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Me and my open relations pretty good.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: Yes exactly.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I mean I'm thinking pretty good for a guy who
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: doesn't watch the show, it's pretty good.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you go? You went with Arizona. You're so
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Meredith and you look like Meredith.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: We should do the walk our walk Meredith. Look all right?
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: That was fun little games props.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: We should give them the credit. Courtney, thank you for that.
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: Job.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Well away, you're gonna be rolling around the o R
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: in skates.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would be a Pedes. I would definitely
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: go peedees. And I also I said, I.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Actually said Arizona season six because that's when she really
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you really show that she knows who she is and
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: she stands up to Calli's dad, and she's like, I
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: am an honorable person, and like, even though I'm not
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: who you wanted for your daughter, like I am who
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: you're getting and I love her.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I love I loved Usca Capsule, I do too forever.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Well, that was so much fun. Eastern great work than you,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: diehard fans.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: Stressful, stressful.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: We will be back next week. Don I love you,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I continued
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: M hm