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Why Sue Gaudion Is A Terrible Tipper · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to a DM podcast.
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  Speaker 2: We'll try to keep it as nice as we can,
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  Speaker 2: but you might hear the occasional swear word in No
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  Speaker 2: Dribble Don't Tell Mom. Hello, and welcome to No Dribble,
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  Speaker 2: the podcast where we talk about net fail and we
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  Speaker 2: talk about everything else besides. I am Carolyn Swindell and
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the studio in Sydney, and this is a
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  Speaker 2: bit of an unusual week for us. We've got a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a change up. I'm going to ask my
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  Speaker 2: two microphone comrades today to introduce one another. And first
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  Speaker 2: of all, I'm going to throw very far away over
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  Speaker 2: to the wild West.
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  Speaker 1: Well west me yes, okay, so the voice is obvious,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm introducing my dear friend Elizabeth. Elizabeth, Elizabeth, Welcome, Elizabeth,
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  Speaker 1: it's great to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Susan, it's lovely to see you. The formalities
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  Speaker 3: our best and Elizabeth.
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  Speaker 2: This is why I asked them to introduce one another,
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  Speaker 2: because this is quite unusual. Obviously we have Lize Ellis,
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  Speaker 2: but we also have Sue Gordy Gordian with us today,
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  Speaker 2: but Susan and Elizabeth today joining us for notable.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Catherine and we call Coxy Catherine too well. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why we do it, but we've always had
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  Speaker 1: it in commentary, and I know when Susan is being
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  Speaker 1: very serious in commentary because she used to turn to
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  Speaker 1: me and say, Elizabeth Ellis, Wow, either I have to
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  Speaker 1: make a serious point or someone's died.
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  Speaker 3: I do actually recall.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a game we were doing, and I
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  Speaker 1: felt like it was quite a serious moment and I
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  Speaker 1: just looked at you and I said, Elizabeth, what.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think about that?
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  Speaker 1: And you looked at me and there was silence on
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  Speaker 1: the mike. But then it kind of evolved.
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  Speaker 3: And people used to come in and like, I loved
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  Speaker 3: just calling each other so formally.
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  Speaker 1: I know, it's very formal, and then Coxy calls you Gordian,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, okay, I think it's just you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think you and I are the more cerebral of
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  Speaker 1: the relations and you're in Choxy. You know, you descend
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  Speaker 1: into the Kardashians on My bar Loba High bar Loba.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, Gordie, thanks for joining us this week. Kat's
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  Speaker 2: got a well deserved week off because she needs to
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  Speaker 2: rest her voice. Basically, she's got a big seas in
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  Speaker 2: her head, and she absolutely pushed herself to the wall
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  Speaker 2: at Team Girls Cup and it was a schedule week off.
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  Speaker 2: She's Catherine's voice will never run out. I'm sure, but
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  Speaker 2: we're so excited that you're here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be here. It's a little early over
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  Speaker 1: here in the West. Well, not really, eight twenty.
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  Speaker 3: I'm at work.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm not only at work. Can I just say
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  Speaker 1: just quickly, I'm not only at work. I had to
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  Speaker 1: come in at seven this morning because I got home
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  Speaker 1: last night and Rose told me the water's out, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what have you done about it?
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  Speaker 3: All day? She goes, Oh, I rang a plumber, but
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  Speaker 3: he's coming tomorrow. I'm like, I can't shower it. So
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  Speaker 3: I had to come into.
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  Speaker 1: Work and shower and then come up and do the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I've never showered at work. Oh feeling it's terrible. I
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  Speaker 1: was in the I don't know what do you call it,
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  Speaker 1: the multipurpose change room, where you're standing in a pig
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  Speaker 1: cubicle and feel like you're naked to the world.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. There's no one here, but it was
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  Speaker 3: just awkward. Is it a communal shower? No? It's not
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  Speaker 3: a communal Actually, I was in do you know, Elizabeth,
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  Speaker 3: where I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was in the drug testing room, not the drug
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  Speaker 1: taking room, let's be drugs testing room.
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  Speaker 3: That's next door.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I had a shower in the drug taking
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  Speaker 1: and testing room this morning.
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  Speaker 2: And then so who usually showers in the drug testing room?
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  Speaker 1: I actually don't know, Like to be blatantly honest with you,
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  Speaker 1: who builds a plan has a drug testing room that
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  Speaker 1: puts a shower room, I don't know. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that it's ever been used. Therefore it was potentially quite polling.
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  Speaker 2: But Christine, well maybe this is your birthday present, the
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  Speaker 2: first person to ever use that shower. Happy birthday for yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks so much. And what a thrilling gift, the gift
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  Speaker 3: of no water.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe with the drug testing room, they've got the shower
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  Speaker 1: in there, because sometimes you need somewhere private that's bigger
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  Speaker 1: than a toilet cubicle for your drug testing, because there's
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  Speaker 1: got to be two people. There's like the person peeing
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  Speaker 1: in the up and the person squatting down watching the
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  Speaker 1: pe come out, which is what a great job, horrific.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well I know a few people who do that.
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  Speaker 3: John apparently it pays really well. But anyway, they.
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  Speaker 2: Are they medically qualified?
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  Speaker 3: Is that? What?
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  Speaker 2: How do you? How do you qualify to do that job?
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  Speaker 3: Do you like?
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  Speaker 2: Because I've seen my kids piss a lot, so I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I'm qualified.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but your problem is you would crack a joke.
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  Speaker 1: You need to be quite serious because when you're actually
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  Speaker 1: the person peeing in the cup, the last thing you
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  Speaker 1: want is for any sort of personality to be evident
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  Speaker 1: in the person watching you.
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  Speaker 3: Befair enough, it's humiliating, Liz.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what about your friends and their age,
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  Speaker 1: but I do feel like this is a there's an
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  Speaker 1: age level.
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  Speaker 3: Of people do this job. I want to say this
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  Speaker 3: really not sleep.
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  Speaker 2: You want a level of maturity.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there needs to be a level of
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  Speaker 1: maturity and that usually kicks in when your hair turns gray.
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  Speaker 1: So so I'm ready, you're ready, I am ready, right,
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  Speaker 1: I'll bust out the forms.
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  Speaker 2: Secretly, I'm ready to, but I have a relationship with
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  Speaker 2: Dutch hairdresser every five weeks that sorts for me keeps
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  Speaker 2: me unqualified for that job.
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  Speaker 3: I think I would keep going down that path if
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  Speaker 3: I were you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not ready to stop being a brunette. Are you No.
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  Speaker 2: It's like someone's telling me you're not going to be
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  Speaker 2: short anymore. It's like, well, who the hell am I
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  Speaker 2: if I'm not a brunette anymore. It's quite weird. I
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  Speaker 2: know that one day I'm just going to have to
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  Speaker 2: come to grips with it, but it just sort of
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  Speaker 2: feels like, oh, I'm not quite ready for that yet.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, here's something that actually was a good
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  Speaker 1: outcome of me deciding to embrace my silver was that
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  Speaker 1: I saved four hundred bucks and a half a day
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  Speaker 1: a month. Yes, I saved that daily though I have
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  Speaker 1: a partner who's a hairdresser.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know, not all of us selected wisely
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  Speaker 3: like you did. I'm married to meet Trey.
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  Speaker 2: Can I just do a quick audit of number of
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  Speaker 2: family members with their arms in a cast at the moment?
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  Speaker 2: So cat still has one? I have one in my house.
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  Speaker 2: Do we have any increase on one on two?
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  Speaker 3: No takers?
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's good, okay?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, my daughter played in a netball carnival
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  Speaker 1: at the Gold Coast on last Saturday afternoon evening, and
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  Speaker 1: just before their first game, the heavens opened and bucketed
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  Speaker 1: down and I thought, here we go. I can see
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  Speaker 1: a cast coming. But unusually she she didn't hit the ground,
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  Speaker 1: which is highly unusual for her. And so still I
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  Speaker 1: say this, touching all the wood that I possibly can,
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  Speaker 1: there is no increase.
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  Speaker 3: We are nervous in our house.
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  Speaker 2: How'd they go in the carnival?
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  Speaker 3: They won.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing, it's really exciting. So and in the web, yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: And they only had seven players because half of their
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  Speaker 1: team were away at a basketball tournament.
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  Speaker 2: So come hiorities.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Anyhow, so now they did, they won, They did well,
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  Speaker 1: but happily no broken bones, No bones are broken in
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  Speaker 1: the making of that winner's trophy.
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  Speaker 3: Terrific, fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: So, Gordy, you are very busy the moment. Yes, we're
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  Speaker 2: very lucky to get you.
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  Speaker 3: Well a am in the morning, you'll get me.
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  Speaker 2: No, that is good. So, Gordie, you might not be
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  Speaker 2: aware of this, but we've had quite an exciting week
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  Speaker 2: here in the No Dribble world in that we launched
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  Speaker 2: the Valor Dribblers Tipping comp last week, which is very exciting,
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  Speaker 2: and we had our first hundred tippers, which was that
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  Speaker 2: was in minutes that we had though that hundred field
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  Speaker 2: went into the draw thanks to Vallop before a signed
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  Speaker 2: Thunderbirds Stress and Aaron from New South Wales one that.
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  Speaker 2: But what I'm loving is, as I suspected with the Dribblers,
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  Speaker 2: we have very many creative tipping aliases. So I'll start
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  Speaker 2: with an easy one and we'll see if we can
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  Speaker 2: work out who this is. We have Lizzie Legs and
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  Speaker 2: Coxy Chaos signed up for it, and the third in
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  Speaker 2: that holy unholy trinity is kazlov Wd's so that's me.
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  Speaker 3: But we have here.
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  Speaker 2: We have here if you need eat, sleep, Netball repeat
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  Speaker 2: center of attention, which I think that's a great one.
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  Speaker 2: I prefer quidditch. Not sure how they're going to guard
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  Speaker 2: from the tipping many references to the tea Birds. We
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  Speaker 2: also have go Berties twenty two Swiss to win twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five. This one I particularly like is I know
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  Speaker 2: netball now? This I happen to know thanks to one
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  Speaker 2: of the dribblers writing to me is the NRL loving
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  Speaker 2: partner of one of our dribblers who is desperate to
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  Speaker 2: win this comp because his partner won his work NRL
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  Speaker 2: tipping comp last year, so he wants to sweep in
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  Speaker 2: with his I know, Netball alias there and win our
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  Speaker 2: tipping comp So but you know, I'm loving to see
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  Speaker 2: the creative aliases and looking forward to seeing more over
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  Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what frightens me about tipping comps?
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  Speaker 1: Liz and we used to say, we used to say
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  Speaker 1: this a little bit in commentary, like you know, as commentators,
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  Speaker 1: you're supposed to know a lot, and you do prep accordingly,
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  Speaker 1: but I tell you there is never ever enough information
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  Speaker 1: that we would know compared to some of the fans
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  Speaker 1: that exist in the game enter competitions like this, like
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  Speaker 1: it's in so like I couldn't. My brain doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: the capacity to hold that much information.
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  Speaker 2: No, well, you've got a lot of other information to
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  Speaker 2: hold in there during the season, don't you.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like yeah, but you know, it's not a lie.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you would become I would be commentating and someone
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  Speaker 1: would either send me a message luck my phone, or
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  Speaker 1: they'd send it on social media with a piece of
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  Speaker 1: information that I just did not know, and that you.
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  Speaker 3: Go, oh, that's really good. How do they know that? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to use it in commentary and pretend it's mine.
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  Speaker 2: Do you check the bone of fardis or do you
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  Speaker 2: just go.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to hope that what they're sending is on
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  Speaker 3: the money. That wouldn't it.
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  Speaker 1: It would be the worst because then you really can't
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  Speaker 1: say to your boss when they say, why did you
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  Speaker 1: say that? Because someone said it on the socials, that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really wash.
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  Speaker 3: And I believe the socials.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Gordy, I want to say, I reckon, you're
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  Speaker 2: not that great at tipping.
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  Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I bow out of most
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  Speaker 1: tipping competitions. I bow out of most quiz nights. I
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  Speaker 1: just I'm just I don't know what it is. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: just dumb. I don't know, but I feel like I've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of information in my brain, but when
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  Speaker 1: the questions ask I can't pull it out at the
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  Speaker 1: right time.
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  Speaker 2: I could tell you it's not that you're dumb. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's possibly a lack of attention. But given that
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  Speaker 2: you're not very good, perhaps you'd like to join our
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  Speaker 2: tipping comp because we have a within our tip in
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  Speaker 2: comp we have the opportunity for people to form their
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  Speaker 2: own little groups and they compete against their own friends,
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  Speaker 2: and so we have a no dribble hosts and heroes
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  Speaker 2: tipping comp within that could you join it? And then
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  Speaker 2: I might not come first?
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  Speaker 3: So who will I be against? I'll be against listen
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  Speaker 3: you and Cat?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Oh I'm in while you fantastic. That's exciting.
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  Speaker 2: And when we're writing about some other people who've been
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  Speaker 2: guests on the podcast or I don't know what the
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  Speaker 2: rule you can't win anything. None of us can win anything,
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  Speaker 2: I'm afraid. But it's for the joy and for the
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  Speaker 2: shit stirring.
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  Speaker 3: I guess do I get to pick a name? What's
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  Speaker 3: your nickname?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it'll be Gaudy delicious or nice G Train, G Train.
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  Speaker 2: We're all on board the okay, fantastic. So everyone should
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  Speaker 2: be setting up their own groups, but this is our
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  Speaker 2: group and it will be very interesting to see. There
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  Speaker 2: is a lunch on the line between the three of us,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that should be extended to everyone who
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  Speaker 2: was in our little group there so and it's like
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  Speaker 2: a it's a white tablecloth lunch. We've agreed, it's not
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  Speaker 2: a sandwich. I had to Cat made me agree to
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  Speaker 2: that because it was looking very likely on pathform that
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  Speaker 2: I would be buying lunch.
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  Speaker 3: So no carried eggs.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've been a curried eg sandwich.
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  Speaker 1: I had one yesterday with lettuce.
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  Speaker 3: Curried eggs with lettuce?
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  Speaker 2: Nice?
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  Speaker 1: And can I just ask a question as we talk
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  Speaker 1: of carried egg I actually said this to someone yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Have you ever bought a curried egg sandwich with lettuce?
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  Speaker 3: Not with white bread? No? But I don't put lettuce
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  Speaker 3: on my carried egg sandwiches, you know, but I did.
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  Speaker 3: Neither of the shop did it for me.
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  Speaker 2: I really I always put the lettuce on my egg sandwiches.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's in the constitution that it has to
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  Speaker 2: be on white bread, doesn't well, yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Like I would prefer it not white bread. I would like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like a brown or multi grain. However, I
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  Speaker 1: don't ever recall seeing a curried egg sandwich with or without,
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  Speaker 1: let us Elizabeth, on anything other than white bread.
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  Speaker 3: I just think you're right.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think like I am
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  Speaker 1: the anti white bread Nazi in my household, and I
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  Speaker 1: tried to. I've got my kids eating whole meal, which
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  Speaker 1: is all I can hope for. They won't go with
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  Speaker 1: whole grain. But I do make an exception for curried
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  Speaker 1: egg sandwiches because it should be on fresh white, soft
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  Speaker 1: bread with lots of butter.
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  Speaker 2: So I did that. I read the nutrition panels in
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  Speaker 2: the supermarket one day because my children just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they were really resisting all of the bread that I
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  Speaker 2: brought into the How it's not significantly different anymore. You
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  Speaker 2: think it's going to be a whole lot more fiber
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  Speaker 2: or a whole lot more in a whole lot less
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  Speaker 2: sugar in the I much prefer bread with grains in it.
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  Speaker 2: But actually, when you look at the nutrition panels on
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  Speaker 2: some of the current white breads on the market, it's
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  Speaker 2: not that different. So but what it is is trying
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  Speaker 2: to develop your kid's palette, right, so they're not just
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  Speaker 2: eating white bread when they're thirty five and asking for
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  Speaker 2: tomatoes with every meal.
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  Speaker 3: Is that evolution? Because or am I just I just
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  Speaker 3: don't read the small.
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  Speaker 2: I think that the white bread manufacturers, Big white Bread,
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  Speaker 2: have realized that there is a movement against it and
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  Speaker 2: have said we need to we need to do something
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  Speaker 2: about this. So I suspect that they have, I have
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  Speaker 2: made a conscious effort to make the white breads more
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  Speaker 2: nutritious and be able to compete with the other breads.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so I mean, there is a difference. It's
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  Speaker 2: obviously there is slightly high fiber in the others, and
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  Speaker 2: there is slightly more sugar in the white bread, but
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  Speaker 2: it was not nearly as significant as I thought. So
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  Speaker 2: guilt free. Here, eat what you'll bloody eat.
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  Speaker 3: That's right with curried egg, lettuce, white bread. Love it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're now a nutrition podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that basically says, just eat food. I look at
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  Speaker 1: who's on this screen and I'm like, Liz, yes, meat no.
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  Speaker 2: So Gordy, my son is sixteen, and like for the
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  Speaker 2: first and that's what I say to people when they
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  Speaker 2: have younger kids and they're so worried about what the
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  Speaker 2: kids eat at every meal and whatever, and it's really
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  Speaker 2: looked after the nutrition of this kid. And then one
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  Speaker 2: day he sat down to dinner and said, oh I
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  Speaker 2: can't I can't eat them full. He'd had a can
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  Speaker 2: of red Bull and a can of whipped cream, and
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  Speaker 2: it's like, I just I feel like I've handed him
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  Speaker 2: the keys to the Lamborghini and he's gone, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how to change gears. I'll just drive this thing
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  Speaker 2: at eighty k's an hour in first gear. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: this is like give up.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm imagining the explosion in the mouth between the
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  Speaker 1: red bull and the whipped crane.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, anyway, he's healthy. He played sports. Give up.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to add to that.
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  Speaker 1: We never did stuff like that, Liz, No, never, No,
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  Speaker 1: we were always super innocently. It's so innocent, so innocent,
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  Speaker 1: except for Catherine, but she's not here to defend herself.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a beautiful segway for me because I
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  Speaker 2: want to talk to you, Gordy, now that we have
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  Speaker 2: you here in the hot seat. I want to talk
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: about so this is the things are serious now. All
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: of the super Ball teams are in full on training, nutrition, whatever.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: I would love to hear about a week in the
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: life of the Fever, and specifically for you as a
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: coach there because I ignorantly perhaps, but that's the basis
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: of this podcast, be saying stuff that I know nothing about.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: I assume that as a coach your hours are probably
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: about twice those of the players because you've got to
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: do whatever they're doing, but then you've got to do
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: all the prep as well. So I would love to
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: hear what's your week like? And you know, is anyone
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: telling you what to eat so you can stay the
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: course because this is a real marathon for.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: You guys, Well, yeah, it is a marathon.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: And certainly you can tell it's only two weeks away
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: from the start of the season because the entire environment
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: shifted as of Monday, Like, honestly, yeah, two weeks out.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: It just shifts.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: The emails, the tone, the atmosphere, the energy in the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: whole system here just completely shift. So I think that's
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: kind of that's noticeable in terms of hours. I think
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: from a coaching perspective, you never switch off. As an example,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: beyond the fact that I woke up thinking about this
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: podcast and doing it this morning, I genuinely did wake
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: up thinking about training, what we've got to get done,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: what we've got to achieve, you know, what are the
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: final dots that we need to dot and tease to
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: cross before we get into you know, next week. And
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: where's athletes motivation at, what do we need to build up,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: what do we need to tailor all those sorts of things.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I play a really small role here
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: at Fever as far as coaching is concerned. It's led
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: by Dan Ryan and Sara Francis Bayman, and I sort
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: of float in the background. For about eight years now,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: so and then I have this stupid third hat I
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: wear as general manager of the club, which is probably
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: the most exhausting role I have, which is very office bound,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: which is where I sit right now. And I have
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: to say, in a shout out to all high performance
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: or general managers in sport around the world, it's an
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: ass of a job. I can't think of any other way.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: It's a really tough beast of job. And just when
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: you think you've got some breathing space, it just changes.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Something happens and things change and you know you're in
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: crisis management and you know. So it's it's been a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: huge rollercoaster for me. This is my fifth season as
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: general manager and one that I thought only only be
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: here for years. So yeah, it's a busy week from
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Monday morning to you come in. I don't leave the
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: office until sort of six or seven at night, five
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: days a week for long yea, So how do you like?
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: What sort of mental gymnastics do you go through? Given
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: you actually hold three really important roles within the sport.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: You're an assistant coach at Fever, You're the general manager
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: of Fever, and then you're also sitting commentary, and I
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: have always been amazed at your ability to just shutter
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: your roles with Fever off, and you are incredibly clear
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: eyed through your commentary.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I think I'm just wondering, like how do you do it?
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Like what do you go through a process or is
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: it just something that comes naturally to you to do that?
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Know you dissect, but for commentary, Liz, like like, I'm
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: just a passion I'm a fan of the game. So like,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: even though you know I would love Fever to win,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that's you know, that sits there. But I honestly, once
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I step into the commentary environment, I genuinely and take
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the game with excitement. And I can go back to
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen Grand Final that I commentated here at
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: in Perth at rac Arena with Fever, and I like
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: it was the first time Fever had ever played in
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: the Grand File. I was just excited about calling a
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Grand Final, and when Fever lost, I had a small
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: moment of devastation, but then I was so excited watching
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Lightning celebrate back to back victories and all these sorts
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: of So I just commentary, I find the easiest to do.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing. And you know, again, I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: don't often speak, probably this the first time I've publicly
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: spoken about this, to be honest with you, in the
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: time i've beat in the chairs. But I'm just really
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: grateful to this business that allows me to wear the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: jewel hats. And when I came on as general manager,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: it was a bit of a non negotiable for me
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: that I didn't have to depart from my two loves,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: which is commentating and coaching, and didn't expect to be
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: in the GM role for as long. And I'm really
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: grateful to my high performance staff and also the playing
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: group who weather the storm with me when sometimes my
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: roles tend to cross and we have really open conversations
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and they hold me accountable and yeah, it's I don't know, Liz, like,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: it's not for everyone. I put a lot on my shoulders.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I won't last forever in these roles, but I'm grateful
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: while I'm here.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Can I ask about the GM role there?
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: So?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Is that when I hear GM, I think like that's
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: membership ticketing? Is that is this GM of the performance performance?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: So I look after all the performance and all the
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: pathway that exists performance of fever and then the pathway
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that feeds the clubs.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: So okay, we have much we have a sense to
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: me now that.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we have a commercial department you know, and
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: all of that that spin the wheels of the ticketing
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and the big dealers.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: But you know, I sit in in sort of.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: It's like the role that exists around the country and
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: most of the sporting clubs is called a high performance manager,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: where you fundamentally just solely look after high performance, whereas
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: my role is a bit more broader here at netwull Wa,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: where I'm a general manager, so I have executive responsibilities
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and I also look after a more broader pathway, integration
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and competitions, which is a lot there must.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Be quite exciting though, to have that visibility of the
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: pathways stuff, you know, I know, I know Vixen's have
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of homegrown talent and you guys have a
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: lot of homegrown talent too. Who people who live in
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: the West love living in the West and would prefer
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: not to leave the West if they possibly could. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: think the best time to be Western Australia was during COVID,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: when it's like sorry West saying here, none of you
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: are coming over. This is our Please leave a thought
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and I can totally understand that haven't been to WA
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: a couple of times in the last few years, but
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: it must be. It's fairly unique amongst the clubs to
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: have someone like you who has that oversight of the
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: pathways but also that intimate involvement at the elite level.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it mixes in some clubs. Every club's got a
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: different setup and structure. When we meet collectively as a
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: national group, everyone's sort of got a little piece of
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a few things, but what we centralize is that high
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: performance experience.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: But it is exciting to have.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Like for me, it's probably been the biggest part of
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the job since I've been here is how do we
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: integrate the West Australian Pathway to ensure Fever thrives and
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: sustain success. And so I loved getting my hands around
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: that and probably when I depart the role, I hope
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that's my greatest legacy in terms of what I've brought
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: to the club while I've been here, which is you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: at the moment, we do have a lot of internationals
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: in our team, and like most clubs, you want to
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: thrive on your pathway and make sure that there is
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: an avenue for your local talent to be able to
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: play at the top, and we truly believe in that.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: But we also are a numbers game, you know, like
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: we have we have it's pretty excited, but we had
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand members here compared to a Victoria and a
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: New South Wales it's it over one hundred thousand and whatever.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: So we're mindful that to compete at the top, we
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: have to be open minded about our talent. But we're
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: also making sure that we're you know, my job is
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to make sure that there is a pipeline of West
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Australian talent coming through and you know, look at Ruth
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Ariyang that's coming through the system. Sunday's sister at the moment,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: couldn't be more excited for her.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and when Live Wilkinson we talked about her last week.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: She's bloody amazing that Katherine Cox look alike. Well yeah,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: it should be all okay. So I heard last week
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: on your chat like it had a little bit of
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: a chat about Kat mentioned that some people had spoken
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: about similarities. I went to Catherine Cox over a year
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: and a half ago, if not longer, and I said
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: to Coxy. We've got a kid at the club, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I swear to God, I'm looking at you every training session.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: It's driving me batty, like batty, all right.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Like her movement, the way she catches the ball, the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: way she throws the ball. You know how Coxy used
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to have that beautiful throw that swings across the circle
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: from left to right, and then she takes this beautiful
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: front cut.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: It's like Live Wilkinson, the way she cocks.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Her head, the occasional long shot that she misses.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Is there an alispand no, there's not an Alie band
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: on Live?
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I have actually spoken.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to have another chat to Live today
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: about the alispan that'd be burned. There are a number
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: of things actually, because you know, I've heard this comparison
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: being made between Live and Coxy before, and I do
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: have some questions. Right, So, is could Live be mistaken
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: for being half asleep sometimes when she's on the court
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: because she's so casual?
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Is that what you're sort of getting at?
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, even though Live does listen to this podcast, I'll
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: speak with honesty.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, let's dick a little deeper.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Susan, does Live have an irrational fear of dirt, dust, spiders,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: specs of dust, snakes, lizards, anything that's alive and anything
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: any meat that doesn't come cryovaced or wrapped in plastic.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Does Live have those neurosis as well?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: That's a great question, Elizabeth, and one that I'd like
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to answer in the following way. I actually haven't invested
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that much time with Live to understand that just yes,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: it's not sort of something that I mean, that's information
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: that you and Catherine have built over a very long
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: period of time. However, I think there is potential for
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Live to have some fears in those categories.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Perhaps as an investment in her future and the future
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: of Australian netbor, we could start to mess with her
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: mind a little bit. If she doesn't already have those fears,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: we could start to develop some neurosis. Because clearly it's
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: for the good of the country.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Lives, Yes, it works.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And also, I mean potentially Live could just come and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: spend a week at the farm and I could really
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: get to know her. So you know, if she walks
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: into the guest room and walks out and says, do
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you have any insect spray?
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: And I say why?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: And if Live says, because there's two spiders and turned
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: out to be Daddy long legs.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: If Liz goes in.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: And is a whole can of morteine in the guest
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: room to kill said spiders, and I look at my
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: husband and say, well, the spiders were never going to
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: kill her, but the insect aside might will be on
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: a winner.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're on a winner.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I think the thing is if I thought you were
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: going to ask us live enjoy a balanced glass of wine.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Which wouldn't want? Which? Next question?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Could Live could live drink a balance glass of wine
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and then run a kilometer to catch a.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Taxi while wearing heels? Yes she could. I actually going
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: to back Live in on that one.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: And then and then follow it up with a chaser
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of condensed milk.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. I think she'd be more likely
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: the red bull and the whipped cream to be honest.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: But anyway, A kick a fast, Yes, that's all right.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: That's all part of pre season training over here for
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: a diverse and our clubs run a little differently here
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: in the West.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's an absolute ripper Girls Live Wilkinson. She's very
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: exciting and like a big, big weight to put on
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: her shoulders. There will be a lot of talk about
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: her this season, and she's still young, so you'll see
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the highs and lows as you would have any twenty
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: one year old.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of exciting talent through the through the SSN.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: And there will be moments where everyone hits the head
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and goes, oh, what's she doing? But then there'll be
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: moments where they're like, oh, my god, I can see
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: her in the green gold.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: How old does she just turned twenty one? Twenty one? Yeah,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: that's part of the excitement of young talent, isn't it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Like you don't turn up to the games to watch
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: metronomes and watch people just doing the same thing over
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and over again, which is you know, by the time
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you hit your thirties, that's what you can do. But
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: to see young play develop and to sort of ride
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: those highs and layers with them, that's part of the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: great journey of fandom and to feel like you're really
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: invested in their careers.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, she'd be great to watch for Fever.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: As you would know Liz, over an extended period of
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: time in your career, you build a terrific dossia on
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: everyone that you play against. And so that's why we
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: always say second year blues in the game. First year
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: kid comes out of nowhere, no one's really got enough
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: information on them. They have these ripper games, and then
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden they get to the second year
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: and everyone's got data and footage and insight, and then
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: they've got to figure their way through the mess. And
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: so I feel like, you know that that's going to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: be the youngsters that we see in the league this year,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Live Wilkinson being one of them, that they will.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Be exciting, but they've got work to do.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: You know, they've got to build their information database around
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: how to beat you know, Sarah Cloud for the third
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: time in one season. And you know Sarah Cloud doesn't
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: get beaten twice in a row. So how do they
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: how does that battle unfold?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And how do I read that as a coach? How
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: do you take these young these younger players and teach
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: them how to learn? I guess because it's a whole
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: new ballgame for them, isn't It's like they've been they've
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: been awesome, and they've been the best on court, and
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: now it's you're going to be the worst on court.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: And that's okay, that's part of your your learning, you know,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: in order to be the best on court, again, you've
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: got to be this.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: So what do you yeah for me? It's all in
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: your skills tool kit.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: And so I think as a player, over time that
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: toolkit builds. I remember a great conversation once where normal
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Plumber I think it was to Catherine Cox. I think
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: it was Coxy and I having this conversation where Plumster
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: said to Kathy, You've got a great A game, cat,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: but you've got no B game, right, So, and it's
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: it's absolutely true, like.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: When you're a game, what is that feeling? It?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Well, when you know when you do what you do
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and you do it well, you're having a rip a game.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: That's your a.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Game, right, like you know, you know the moves, it
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: all feels really perposal. And then all of a sudden
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: your opposition figures you out and then you're like, right,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: well I need to adjust what I'm doing.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: What the hell am I going to do? And that's
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: what's your plan? B? Like, how do you you know?
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Like and a simplistic example, and again I think this
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: was Catherine, I think plumb said to her you're grade
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: out the left hand side, but god forbid the right.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So something something along those lines, right. So it's just like,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: you know, you get into some you get into some
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: really friendly and common patterns as a player because they
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: make you feel good. But you've also got to understand
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: what else you can do and be creative and battle
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: against an opposition when they figure out your game plan.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: And that's the job every week, you know, and that's
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: what we do here at the club and every other
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: club does you sit and study opposition and what they
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: do and how you're going to counterap that, and you know, yeah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: and they you've got the software to do it right,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: so you don't even have to sit and rewind and
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: go through things. There's software that you go show me
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: every time Sue Gordion runs to the left hand side
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: of the court and you press the button and in
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: seconds you've got a whole clip of where your start
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: point is, where your endpoint is, at what point do
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you get the ball? Like all of that data is
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: right there, there's just nowhere to hide.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: It sounds like an unnatural advantage in a tipping comp
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: to me, now.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Do you know what as we say that, oh, I'm
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: not going to even say I could use my own
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: performance analysts to assist with my data tipping to ensure
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that I win this bloody.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Please do That'd be so great?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: You know we should do. Why don't we have a control? Right?
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: So I've been thinking about this because I'm the chair
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: of Netball Australia.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't really be tipping.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Sorry is this podcast chat? Or are we off my candy?
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: This could be podcast chat?
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Right, So, as the chair of netballastrat, I don't think
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I should be tipping, right, And I've been thinking about this,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: but I think I'm either going to go each week.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I'll either go the home team or the away team,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and I haven't decided which one. And maybe I'm the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: control and Catherine and Carolyn are just well, Carolyn's a chump.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Catherine will use her Catherine will use her color.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's pronounced champ.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: No, because Catherine will use her well, maybe Catherine will
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: use her commentator notes. I think we all need a
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: point of difference, right, GORDI will be really data driven.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it will be just one or the other. I
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: don't know. She will be like commentators. No, she'll choose colors.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, I was gonna say someone needs to either choose
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: colors or like who would win in a fight with
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the mascots.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Well, she's already told me that she's not doing her
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: tips until the week out, whereas I've already tipped the
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: first round, but she's waiting to see who's on court
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: and whatever. So that sounds very smart, but it sounds
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: to me like more than just picking the jockey bind
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: of color.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I think Kat is taking this way too bloody.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Seriously, Liz, I like this. I think from an integrity perspective,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it's probably good for you to declare a system now
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and just roll with that. Because you're Switzerland. You don't
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: support Swiftzerland. I don't support any particular team. But yeah, okay,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I think that's good. Maybe you can tell us next
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: week how you are going to tip for the seasons.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I'll have a think home are Away homer Away.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: It might be a good name for a TV show.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, you know what's going
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: to happen here as the season goes on, and I'm
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: at the front of this tipping competition and I'm in
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: a commentary game. You do realize it's going to influence
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: my commentary. I've just spoken to you about how I
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: don't let.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Anything influence my commentary.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: But given that I am so useless at this stuff,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: when I'm at the front of the table, watch out,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I apologize in advance. I'm putting this disclaimery, and I
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: apologize in advance if my commentary starts to sway towards the.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Team that I have.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy with that, Gordy, Okay, And sometimes that
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: happens when I can say this next, I don't commentate anymore,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: but you know, like I don't know how the player
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: of the match is picked now, But there was a
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: time when the commentators used to write on it, and
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I hated it because you're so wrapped up in calling
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the game and the stats. To pull yourself back and
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: think who's been the best player is actually sometimes really difficult,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: and so sometimes, like if it was my turn, I'd
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: quickly look at some stats, and eventually I worked a
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: system where I gave a three two one at the
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: end of each quarter so I wouldn't be swayed by
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: someone getting four great intercepts in arriving and giving it
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: to them. But sometimes you name your player of the
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: match with sort of five minutes ago, and then in
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: commentry you would absolutely talk them up. So everyone, that
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: is so true.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm just named kath Cox's playing of
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: the match. Yeah, ah, Coxy, she's had a great game.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: But Liz even now, like that's you know, we get
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: in our ear that you know this player may be
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: or this not now but used to be this players
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: being named as the player of the match.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: This is when it was taken out of our hands.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: And then I'd be sitting there going, oh my god,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I haven't mentioned her. So all of a sudden you
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: start rolling in and it's like, oh, Maddie hat when
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: you how impressive.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Has she been in the last forty minutes? And I
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: haven't mentioned her name?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: So I think the whole system should be replaced by
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: someone a keen netball fan, not naming names, but I'd
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: be happy to volunteer sitting on the sideline in one
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: of those nice armchairs with a cannagin just saying what
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I reckon, what I.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Reckon, potentially flying around the country to all games. That
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: was nice. That's got integrity written all over it, or
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: doesn't it? Though?
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Thank you? Speaking of which I did say last week.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: You know, I was interested in what it's like for
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Julie Sliger when her two daughters on court head to
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: head against one another. I got this message from Julie.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Of course, we were so so excited to see Natalie
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: and Amy Mark up against each other on Friday night.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: We usually love our team Merch, but had to wear
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: white shirts to the game on Friday night so we
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: couldn't be accused of having any bias. We're so lucky
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: to have been able to see Nat Nami play together
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: and against it was, she wrote, Natalie, but you know
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I've said, Nata, Namy, we're play together and against each other.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Over the years, lots of ferrying them around before they
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: could drive is paying off. We're the best weekend in Adelaide,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: great fun and very proud of our hard working girls.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: And she sent me through a photo of the first
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: time they took the girls to a pre season tournament
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: in twenty twelve in Melbourne, so I loved that. And
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: it's like, because we're talking about it, what do you
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: do as a parent when your girls are in different
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: teams and it's like and one's a wing attack and
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: one's a wing defense and they are up against each
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: other right now, I just close my eyes.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Well couldn't you.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Couldn't you buy like a two T shirts and sew
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: them together half and half. Surely we're going to see
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: that when the Giants play the Lightning. Actually, speaking of Sligers,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: do yourself a favor, Dribblers. Go and have a look
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: on Giants social media this week and you'll see Amy Sliger,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: who they played against the Polse last night, have a
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: slide on the court. It's actually a riper slide, stands
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: up and then falls Amy slide face, Amy slider.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Oh look at you guys. So she started deep and
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: falls flat on her face.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, straight up and falls flat on her face, and
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: everybody on the court just falls over laughing, right in
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the middle of a game.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: It's such good footage.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: And she would have been leading that laughter, I imagine. Yeah,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: she well and truly laughs at herself.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she's a rip up. So it's good. Good.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: So I don't know where we've landed on you with
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the tipping, Gordy, but it sounds to me like if
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: you don't win, really you want to hang ahead in shame.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well, I mean, I'm going into this expecting
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: not to win, because history tells me I'm useless. But
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: like I said, if I have a little side gig
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: as a performance analyst on board, I could be right
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: up there this year.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Love it. That's absolutely wonderful.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: And the performance analyst's job is now hanging by a
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: tipping threat. Well yeah, and I can't wait for Dan
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Ryan to say to him, I've got work for you
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to do and he says, no, Actually, I'm working on someone.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: We could invite Dan to participate in the tipp and
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: co it might be more legit.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: This is true because then they were both for using
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: the same data. This is true.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: That's a good point. But it's how you interpret the
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: data is not. Everyone's going to interpret the data in
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: the same way. So you know I would interpret it
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: incorrectly for.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Instance, as do we occasionally.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: So two weeks to go, what's the next two weeks
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: look like? Is there such a thing as tapering at
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: this point in the in the preseason? What do you
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: know what's happening?
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's you know that sits with your
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: strength and conditioning person who kind of manages all the loads.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: So it's not so much tapering, but I think the
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: biggest one is mental downloads, So just making sure that,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: particularly as of next week, that the players are going
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: in and making sure that there's no additional load outside
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of the standard that's going to build pressure, etc.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: And at times that's actually the harder task to manage
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: because it's kind of not in our control.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: So I think we certainly emphasize that as a club
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: for the players. But you know, by nature, everyone's so
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: excited to get Round one underway. It's like the next
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: week just flies.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: It's like Grand Final week.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: They're the two weeks it's the week going into Round
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: one and the week leading into Grand Final are just immense.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Exciting.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a big week for me too as an
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Apple coach the under twelve. So they've got their first
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: game this Saturday. We've had two training sessions and of
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: course last night in our first second training session, I
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: tried to teach them absolutely everything, which means I've taught
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: them nothing focus on for this week, which is fine
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: because I'm in Melbourne this weekend. I'm not even there
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: for their first game, and yes, so I don't know
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: do they even have a coach who knows, but.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Your pre seasons.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your preseason sounds like the New Zealand League.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: That is a sledge sledge I won't be doing.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: You might have to explain it for me and those
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: at home.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Well, their preseason likes about four or five words.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Is it okay? They just so it's like, all right,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: come on, put your shoes on, we're playing.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. From a players point of view, they'd probably love it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Oh bloody love it.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: And I would say adversely over here, our preseasons are
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: a ted too long, which is something we're all looking
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: at to address.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: So when did your pre season start for the non Diamonds,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: it started in about October.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: October twenty twelve.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I was going to say nineteen six, nineteen six utero Yeah, yeah, no,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: like so the contract year starts on the first of October,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: and then there's sort of annual lead to manage, which
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of clubs we have to front end, and
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: then off the back of that you're usually sort of
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: hitting the court. Clubs sporadically hit the court with different
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: layers of athletes from the first of November onwards.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: And what about the internationals, So when do they go
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: back to the UK or you know what's there, what's
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the windows That.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: All depends so but most of them lead pretty much
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: straight after the season finishes at the end of the
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Grand Final and then depending on the athlete or so.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: A lot of the internationals now like you used to
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: just lose them, but now they're kind of having to
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: manage their load at international level as well because the
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: international season is getting pretty hectic. So so yeah, we
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: you know, you spread see some like Hallan Howsey didn't
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: go back and play. Let's say fran Williams from Foevers
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: she went back to full time. Then if you look
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: at the Jamaicans, some played some internationals, some didn't.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: So it's just a juggling act.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Well, the race is just it would be like got
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: of Heathrow turn around, come back and play in Australia
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: in New Zealand, really, wouldn't it.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: It is full on it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: It's a big discussion point in the sport at the moment,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: just about making sure where staying ahead of the game,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: noting that you know, we turn the corner next year,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: You've got Commonwealth Games a year after that, the World
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Cup potentially extended seasons in length if we you know,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: depending if the league grows, depending what that looks like.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: So there's lots to consider around managing.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Particularly our top top elite echelon of players that's in
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: international systems.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the common game was full end of July,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: isn't it that just like that's I'm sorry, that's very
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: inconvenient for Sun Cops, super NETBWL.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll definitely have a season that finishes early
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: next year.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: That's not letting any cat out of the bag.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there's other decisions to make, which I don't
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: think the sport's too far away from at the moment.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: So so are we able to say whether that means
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: the season starts earlier, finishes earlier, or shorter season or
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: is that something that is still not being shared?
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: No, I have nothing's been shared, but I think it's
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not speaking out of turn.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I think it's Oh, so.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: We is speaking at a turn and Netball Australia has
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: just cut off her connection.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: No, I'm back.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: No, I think it's fair to say that you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the season is likely going to have to start a
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: little bit earlier to fit everything in what that exactly
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: looks like, and the.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Dates is still to be determined, but I'm excited.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I'm happy for it to look if anyone's interested, I'm
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: happier if the season starts earlier. Great, Okay put me
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: down three years, yes, fantastic. So the reason we just
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: lost Scordy briefly then is because we've got a link
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: and we've run over time. Because this has just been
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: such an awesome chat. So I am going to say
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: that we do not once again we are lacking in
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: a win beneath our wings nomination, Ladies and gentlemen of Australia.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: What is going on? You know that these people working
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: very hard, let us know who they are a little
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: one up in our sleeve that we are working on
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: something special for because it's a group nomination, which has
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: happened before. But yeah, but it's not a you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: it's not a standard nomination, so we obviously have to
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: go through a very lengthy consultation process between the three
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: of us to work out what's all we're gonna do
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: with it. But anyway, Gordi, thanks for joining us.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Pleasure, thanks for having me once again. Fun.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in this such busy time, we really appreciate it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: And yeah, good all the best look after yourself. Remember
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: can of Red Bull and a can of whiped cream
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: is all you need for a daily nutrition.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Just it's going to go and put my fever top
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: on there so I can go to training.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Very nice. Well thanks, and I'm going to say Cyana. Now,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: this is Carolyn Swindell, all right, and no one has
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: anything to respond to ordinarily, what oppens is someone else
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: says their name then, so let's try that again. I
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: gonna sign off. Now, I'm gonna say sign up again.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: This is Carolyn's Wignell, and that's Elizabeth Dallas and that's Susan.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Got you.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: This has been no dribble. Have a great week, guys.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Bye bye. Oh that was fun. Thanks guys. H