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It's A Party In Here... · Billy & Lisa in the Morning: The After Show

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  Speaker 1: All right, this is a happy place, Riley. Hello, Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, I was just.
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  Speaker 1: Complaining off the air about things I won't tell you about.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't I'm not trying to be secretive. I was
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  Speaker 1: just like venting about, you know, work, things that really
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  Speaker 1: don't matter at anybody else but me, or you know, yeah, frustrations.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you have people that are listening. Frustrations about
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  Speaker 1: your job.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, I feel like everybody does.
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  Speaker 1: People just like to complain.
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  Speaker 3: I love complaining, and I know that that's like not
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  Speaker 3: really a good thing to say, but it makes.
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  Speaker 2: Me feel better.
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  Speaker 3: It's a vent session, right, So like I don't really
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  Speaker 3: I mean obviously complain to like only specific people. If
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  Speaker 3: you complain to people that like hate it, then they'll
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  Speaker 3: just find you annoying. But like I love going to
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  Speaker 3: my friends and being like.
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  Speaker 2: Can I just be like a bitch for a second?
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  Speaker 2: And then they're like of course, and I'm like okay, perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Or do you lead with can I be mean? Yes? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, can I say something mean? Can I be
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  Speaker 3: mean for a second? Me and my friend Kelly are yeah,
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  Speaker 3: can I be mean for a second?
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  Speaker 2: Girls?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely? The second we get in the car after a
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  Speaker 2: Bruin's game, I just catch speaking for a second. We
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  Speaker 2: don't even have to say it anymore because it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: be mean, I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: It just feels good in a safe space.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 3: It feels really good to have somebody be like, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: you're right.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to kind of expand on something we
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  Speaker 1: talked about on the show. I do want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about you know who, your friend. We'll get to that
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  Speaker 1: in a minute, but I want to expand on the
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  Speaker 1: topic we had today with me and the steak and
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  Speaker 1: cheese with my wife. Okay, because there's another part of
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  Speaker 1: it that I did not add in because.
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  Speaker 2: It's yeah, I wasn't sure if you were going to
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  Speaker 2: say that.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's not that part. There's another part, a
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  Speaker 1: different part.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So the part you're talking about is she was she's
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  Speaker 1: on our period. She had gotten it yesterday and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know. So that played into the emotions part of it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like she just wanted to eat, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: then she crying.
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  Speaker 2: She probably wouldn't have cried.
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  Speaker 1: Right, the crying, the hormones, I get it. And once
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  Speaker 1: she said that, I was like, I felt like the
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  Speaker 1: biggest douche. Yeah, but there's another part of it which
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want to add in because it's whatever. So basically,
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  Speaker 1: now you have to think about like this, right, we
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  Speaker 1: have friends of ours that have been longtime friends. Well
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  Speaker 1: I do, she does too. But I have a few
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  Speaker 1: really close friends that are around that I hang out
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  Speaker 1: with or that come over all the time. Okay, she
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  Speaker 1: has a group of girl friends and well, I should say,
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  Speaker 1: her best friend in the whole world moved to North
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina. Okay, and then her other best friend is
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  Speaker 1: you know, she's got grandkids. Now, she's young, but she
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  Speaker 1: had children like really early, so she's very busy with
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  Speaker 1: her kids and her grandkids and all that stuff. So
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't really see her that much. You know, Jen
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  Speaker 1: has small children. Now her friend doesn't. Her kids are grown,
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  Speaker 1: she has grandkids, but so she doesn't see her that much. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So last week on Friday, actually, she all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden like came to me and sat down and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to like, can I vent to you?
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  Speaker 1: I have no friends. It was really emotional and at
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  Speaker 1: first I was like, what do you mean you have friends? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And she was like, yeah, I do, but not like
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  Speaker 1: those kind of friends that I can like really connect
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  Speaker 1: with and talk to. My best friend is in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: I can't like go out and see them. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: you know she's like, you're in the sauna every night
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  Speaker 1: with your friends. So I know that she's really struggling
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  Speaker 1: with that. And I just didn't think about that when
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  Speaker 1: the steak and cheese thing came up. But she did
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  Speaker 1: say after we kind of talked it out about the
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  Speaker 1: steak and cheese, she goes, this is what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: If Katie was here, she would have one hundred percent
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  Speaker 1: co signed me and been like, let's get a steak
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  Speaker 1: and cheese because that's what I was looking for from you, right,
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't. I said let's get a salad because
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  Speaker 1: summer's coming.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So like all of that, and it wasn't even
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  Speaker 3: like you. It was just like her also missing her
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  Speaker 3: friend on top of everything else, and missing your friends.
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  Speaker 3: Like as a girl who has a lot of friends
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  Speaker 3: that are spread out now, it hits really hard when
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  Speaker 3: you're like I just.
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  Speaker 1: Want to know for no reason you can cry so no.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, but like when you're like I just I
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  Speaker 3: wish that I was with my best friend right now,
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  Speaker 3: or like you're talking about something like especially when we
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  Speaker 3: me and my best friend who lives in Maryland work
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  Speaker 3: opposite schedules because she's a nurse.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like I feel the exact same way.
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  Speaker 3: It's like I'm playing phone tag with you and I
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  Speaker 3: just want to be like sitting on the couch and
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  Speaker 3: talking to you a person like this sucks that you're
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  Speaker 3: not here. You're like the only person that would like
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  Speaker 3: be my person and you're not here. So I fully
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  Speaker 3: understand where GM's coming.
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  Speaker 1: She's going through it and think about what her day
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  Speaker 1: consists of. When she when she said it all to me,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. You know, she works
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  Speaker 1: from home, so she's on a screen all day talking
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  Speaker 1: to people. She's a manager, right, Yeah, and then she's
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  Speaker 1: with my daughter, yeah, which is and my son, but
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  Speaker 1: my daughter is three so she's much more needy. So
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  Speaker 1: the only really human adult interaction she has is with me.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm like working and then I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to the gym and then I'm in and out. We talk.
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  Speaker 1: We have a great relationship, but she needs like a
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  Speaker 1: girl friend. Yeah, And it's funny She's like I don't
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  Speaker 1: even have that person here. And you know, she's quit
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  Speaker 1: smoking a long time ago, but her friend smokes, so
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  Speaker 1: she would like meet up with her and smoke one cigarette,
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  Speaker 1: like hair are there, yeah, and which is fine, And
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  Speaker 1: she's like, I haven't smoked a cigarette since she left,
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  Speaker 1: Like I just want to smoke a cigarette with my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that played into it as well. So
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  Speaker 1: she's just very emotional between all those things going on.
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  Speaker 1: But I really do feel bad for her, And I
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  Speaker 1: was trying to suggest things like branching out, you know,
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  Speaker 1: meeting new people, go to yoga or go to It's
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  Speaker 1: tough for us because we don't drink. Yeah, so what
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  Speaker 1: do people do. They go out, like on Friday night,
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  Speaker 1: they go to the bar, or they go to the
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  Speaker 1: club where they go like have drinks. Right, she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very normalized.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know, it's really.
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  Speaker 3: Hard to make good, especially good friends, like as an
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  Speaker 3: adult too, because everybody has their friends for the most part,
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  Speaker 3: and like not that people aren't looking for more friends,
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  Speaker 3: but it's like, I don't know, I feel like when
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  Speaker 3: you're like younger, it's it's easier to like make a
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  Speaker 3: connection with people because A, you have just like more time,
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  Speaker 3: but like B it's just like you're young, so like
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  Speaker 3: you form these connections and they just continue throughout your life,
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  Speaker 3: whereas when you're older, it's like you got so much
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  Speaker 3: going on, and like, I don't know, I just feel
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  Speaker 3: like it's a lot harder to make friends as adults.
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  Speaker 1: What is too, because you have to those relationships you
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  Speaker 1: built early on are built and then they continue continue
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  Speaker 1: to grow when old, right, there's not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time and you can still do it, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: start earlier.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that's why a lot of people who
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  Speaker 3: like are like, oh, I like have like this work
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  Speaker 3: friend that I'm really close with. I feel like that
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  Speaker 3: a lot of times you make friends through work when
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  Speaker 3: you're like older.
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  Speaker 1: Did you say work friend? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Oh oh oh, Like me and my friend Kelly met
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  Speaker 3: through work and now we're like very good friends. But
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  Speaker 3: other than that, I'm I'm all like, the really close
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  Speaker 3: friends that I have are either from high school or
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  Speaker 3: from college.
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  Speaker 1: Remember I thought you were a lesbian.
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  Speaker 2: I don't Did you think I was a lesbian or
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  Speaker 2: do you think that I was?
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  Speaker 1: Like bye either or yeah I didn't know. Well it
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  Speaker 1: was because I didn't. You don't strike me as being
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  Speaker 1: a lesbian, and if you are, I don't really care.
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  Speaker 1: I love lesbians and upgay people. It doesn't matter to me.
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  Speaker 1: But when you started working here, you obviously were single, right,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't. You didn't give any reason like that
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  Speaker 1: you would be a lesbian. You know, I thought you
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  Speaker 1: liked dudes or I didn't. Really, I've never thought about it, right,
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  Speaker 1: because we didn't.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't know me that well. I wasn't like talking
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  Speaker 2: openly about.
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  Speaker 1: My But then we went to an event at a
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  Speaker 1: club and you brought your friend Hannah. Hannah is Hannah.
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  Speaker 2: Hannah is a lesbian.
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  Speaker 1: Hanna's lesbian? Okay, yeah, and so obviously I could tell
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  Speaker 1: she was a lesbian. But then you were dancing with her,
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, pretty close, a little bit of dirty dancing,
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  Speaker 1: and I was looking at you and her and I go,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, is she lesbian? And then I forget.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't just I didn't come on and ask you.
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  Speaker 1: I think I did, but it was like, oh, you
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  Speaker 1: gave me an opening or something.
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  Speaker 2: I for Yeah, I forget too.
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  Speaker 3: I was like talking about oh no, I had gone
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  Speaker 3: on a date like pretty soon after that, and you
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  Speaker 3: were like, oh, is it with a girl or a guy?
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  Speaker 2: And I was like with a guy?
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  Speaker 1: What? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And you were like You're like, oh, well, I just
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  Speaker 3: wasn't sure because you and Hannah were kind of dancing
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  Speaker 3: close the other day and I was like, that's just
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  Speaker 3: like me and my friend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is fine, Yeah, yeah, but that was funny.
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  Speaker 1: You're not lesbian and you're not by.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, I mean I've never like kissed
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  Speaker 2: a girl, so like, well, it's.
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  Speaker 1: A very say I know, but it's very It's very
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  Speaker 1: common for I guess men and women, but just for
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  Speaker 1: the sake of the conversation, women to start off being
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  Speaker 1: with guys and then realize later on that they like girls, Right,
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  Speaker 1: I see it all the time. I have friends the
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  Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like sexuality is such a spectrum that you
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  Speaker 3: can't be like I'm one hundred percent straight. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, even tried everything, so I don't really
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  Speaker 3: believe you. But like I can see where people are
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  Speaker 3: like I have a preference for you know, yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that you have to try everything.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, how many girls I know that
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  Speaker 1: we're ruined by men. Men literally made them gay, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like bad relationships, treating them
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  Speaker 1: poorly where they had a better connection with women. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I.
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  Speaker 3: Feel like lesbian's got a bad rap, but I feel
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  Speaker 3: like women are just like understand women a lot more
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  Speaker 3: than men do.
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  Speaker 2: And so if that's your jam, I do understand that.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense, right, Yeah, it's whatever. I was at
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  Speaker 1: a recovery event last night and a dear friend of
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  Speaker 1: mine celebrated forty three years in recovery. Yeah. He's an
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  Speaker 1: old guy, as you can tell, right, he's eighty four,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna be eighty four, Okay, clean for forty three years, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and he's as flamboyant as you come. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: can tell he's gay, longtime gay. So he was there, yes, exactly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And so I was talking to him afterwards, and we
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  Speaker 1: were reminiscing about like when I got clean and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff, and how impactful he was in my life
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  Speaker 1: in my recovery, and we started talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the old days for him when he came out as gay,
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  Speaker 1: you know, think about that, So that would have been Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know when fifties, No, early on fifties, sixties, No,
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  Speaker 1: think about it. He's eighty so if you okay, hold on,
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  Speaker 1: let's do some math here. I know I have a
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  Speaker 1: calculator here, Okay, So what's the year twoy twenty six
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  Speaker 1: minus eighty three equals nineteen forty three.
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  Speaker 2: But that's when he was born, correct.
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  Speaker 1: So then I think he came out as a teenager,
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  Speaker 1: or he wanted to come out as a teenager. So
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  Speaker 1: let's say twenty years yeah, nineteen sixty three, he was
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  Speaker 1: twenty yeah, wow, yeah, and how it was a complete section.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, not okay to be gay.
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  Speaker 1: It's not okay, he said. He said, they would put
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  Speaker 1: a gun to your head and kill you. That's how
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  Speaker 1: they felt gay people. So he didn't really go into
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  Speaker 1: like when he actually came out, but he went through
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  Speaker 1: that complete hell. And then I explained to him that
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  Speaker 1: I was lucky because my parents were kind of hippie like,
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  Speaker 1: and you know I was. They met here and then
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  Speaker 1: they drove across the country to move to California, and
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  Speaker 1: they conceived me in the back of a van in
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  Speaker 1: a field in like Montana. Okay, So they were very
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  Speaker 1: like peace in love my dad with the Beatles and
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  Speaker 1: John Lennon. So especially my mom and my dad both
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  Speaker 1: taught me at a young age, like everybody's equal. There's
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  Speaker 1: no such thing as skin color. You know. My dad's
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  Speaker 1: a Buddhist. He's very much into He won't kill anything,
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  Speaker 1: not even bugs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I wasn't allowed to kill bugs, spiders, aunts.
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  Speaker 1: We moved them out of the house. Yeah, because all
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  Speaker 1: life is precious. That's that's the Buddhist faith. Okay. So
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  Speaker 1: when I was a kid in the yeah, in the
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  Speaker 1: in the in the late eighties, my uncle Bill, who
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  Speaker 1: was my mom's brother, was gay and he was a dancer.
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  Speaker 1: He moved to New York to be a dancer and
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  Speaker 1: he caught HIV. Now this is very early in the
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  Speaker 1: AIDS epidemic, and he came, he got very sick and
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  Speaker 1: he passed, like in nineteen eighty nine. I was very young,
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  Speaker 1: and I went to the funeral. It was a big
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  Speaker 1: deal with my family. My mom has ten brothers and sisters,
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  Speaker 1: and so as a young boy, my mother explained to
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  Speaker 1: me what homosexuality was and what he about AID. So
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  Speaker 1: I knew at a very young age. So being introduced
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  Speaker 1: to it so young growing up, like it was never
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  Speaker 1: an issue, Like I never judged gay people to me
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  Speaker 1: because my uncle Bill was gay and he was the
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  Speaker 1: best dude ever. Yeah. You know, so I think I
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  Speaker 1: was privileged lucky in that sense where I grew up
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  Speaker 1: with no prejudice, you know, like, yeah it does. Skin
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  Speaker 1: color doesn't matter, and sexuality doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good thing to teach your kids from a
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  Speaker 3: young age, I feel absolutely, especially because like even like now,
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  Speaker 3: which is kind of crazy, like the way that like slurs,
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  Speaker 3: especially for like queer people are like thrown around, Like
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  Speaker 3: you still hear people be like, oh, that's gay. It's like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I know, we joke about that about Gil, but like.
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  Speaker 1: Gay is I understand what you're saying. Gay is not
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  Speaker 1: as bad as like some of the other ones.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, I was just yeah, using that one
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  Speaker 3: as like a but I mean, like for children, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like gay is the most like graspable for kids
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  Speaker 3: when you're when they're like young, like in middle school
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  Speaker 3: or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I've heard my my my son's friends and him
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  Speaker 1: say it even though they don't even know what it means.
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  Speaker 1: They just hear it and they gurage it. Takes exactly that.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it's nice that your parents were like,
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  Speaker 3: we don't use that kind of language because this is
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  Speaker 3: what this is. You don't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you just get the kids at a
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  Speaker 1: young age. You know, no one's born racists, right about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's taught.
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  Speaker 1: It's taught, you know, prejudice and racism, that stuff's taught
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  Speaker 1: good slash learned or learned or learned right, And I
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  Speaker 1: grew up around racism. Yeah, like the kids that the
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  Speaker 1: kids that I knew that I grew up with, they
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  Speaker 1: just because they were taught from their parents, right you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy. So anyway, you mentioned work friend,
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  Speaker 1: how do we transition? We did. We did the big
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  Speaker 1: update for Riley and the guy slept over his house.
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  Speaker 1: He did nothing. Yeah, I was thinking about this all
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  Speaker 1: day yesterday. I'm like, how does he not make a move?
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy? Oh man Mike from new Hamshire.
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  Speaker 4: This is for producer Riley if she's gonna be on
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  Speaker 4: tomorrow's podcast. Riley. When I first met my now wife,
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  Speaker 4: I've been married over twenty years. The first time she
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  Speaker 4: had me sleepover, we just laid there and talked and
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  Speaker 4: nothing happened or whatever. And now we've been married for
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  Speaker 4: twenty something years, So just wanted to throw that out.
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  Speaker 1: There that mic with positivity.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Mike.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I don't want people to think
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: that I was like going to his house to have sex,
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: and since we didn't, I'm like, no, that's the only
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: reason why I was there.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: It's like it's not.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: But it was like a little odd that there wasn't
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: even like anything like making out anything.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. This is how I look
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: at it. From your perspective, is you didn't plan anything.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: But the fact that he said to you, Hey, it's late,
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: do you want to sleep over, you can sleep in
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: my bed or do you want to sleep over and
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: you agreed to that. I feel like that should have
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: cracked the door open. Yeah, that maybe something more could
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: have happened. And so in your mind, I'm sure you
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: are probably thinking, Okay, he might make a move, and
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: if he does, I'm okay with it.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And the fact that he didn't and there was
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: a little bit of cuddling, a little bit kissing, but
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: nothing more. I get where you're at, man, you know,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't know what the answer is.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I don't either, you don't, And I feel like the
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: biggest thing for me is like I again don't really
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: care that nothing happened. I just like I have this
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: fear and this is with anybody, not just him, that
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: if you don't like test the chemistry, how do you
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: know it's going to be good and that you're not
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: wasting your time? Like we're like four dates in. I
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: really like him, I like talking to him, I like
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: hanging out with him, I like spending time with him.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: But but like, how am I supposed to know that
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: we have good sexual chemistry if nothing happens early on
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: because I don't again, don't want to waste my time
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: or his time.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: It's not fair.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: And you should add that you did have a kiss
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: on the second or third date and it was good. Yeah,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: the kiss was good. Yeah, So that would lead you
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: to believe that, Okay, there could be something more here,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: but nothing happened, correct, what does your gut tell you?
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: The reason is that he did not try anything.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: I think he just like again, so he we said
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: this on the show kind of briefly, but like he
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: texted me the next day and said that he talked
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: to his friends about it, and his friends were I'm
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: assuming what happened.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Was like, oh, yeah, she slept over my house. Oh
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: did anything happen?
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I wanted the details.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Probably, no, nothing happened. Well why do you not like her?
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Is what I'm assuming happened. And then he was like,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: oh shit, like now I gotta tell her that I
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: am into her, but like and he did. That's what
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: the text was, basically being like oh, like sorry, like
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: basically being like sorry that nothing happened. But he was like, oh,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: I just like, don't hook up with strangers, Like it's
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: I I just am kind of like moving more slowly
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: than that.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Again, that's fine, but like.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: A strangers interesting work.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: That did bother me, But that's beside the point, because
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, we're not strangers, but it's fine.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: And also, if I was a stranger.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't have invited me over to like I mean,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't have let me come over to your house
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: if I was a stranger.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Well, you work together, built a relationship and went on
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: several dates. I'd say, you're not a stranger.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I agree with that, but it's fine, we'll put that
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: to the side. He just was like, you know, like
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: basically saying like it's not at his comfort level, which
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: is fine, but could we not have like had a
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: conversation about that, Like he could have said, like, I'm
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: more than willing for you to sleep over, but like
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I don't really like hook up this quickly, and I
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: would have been like, okay.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's actually I feel like that's a rare
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: thing for a guy to say that. You mean, I'm
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: a guy, I know, a guy think of And it's
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: not like that was the first date. It wasn't like
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: you guys just met. He had built a relationship ship up.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: So if that wasn't the right time, when is? It's
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: my question? Yeah I don't. I don't interesting. Okay, So
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: that's all well and good. But my follow up question
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: to you was after that conversation, when he talked to
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: his friends with you, there's no follow up. Is he
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: not planning something? Is there's nothing there's no plann date
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: for this weekend?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Correct?
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if he was like waiting to
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: see what happened with the Bruins schedule. And I have
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: multiple times in the past been like, hey, like what
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: like do we want to get a date on the books.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: So now I'm kind of like, I don't like this.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Is it my like, do I have to ask?
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: No, I don't like this.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I was kind of just waiting for him to ask.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. He seems like a
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: great guy, but I don't like this. He is dropping
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the ball. And I don't mean just with that sleeping
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: over thing. Now it's after that. What do you mean
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: you now you've suggested that the date the follow up
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: dates should happen and nothing has been made official.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't ask.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Oh you didn't. Sorry, Yeah, but he hasn't said anything correct.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I was kind of waiting to see if he would
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: get the hint.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: It's just interesting to me that his friends said that
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to him, Okay, light bulb boom, oh man, and then
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: he says that to you. To me, if my friends
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: did said that to me, I would be like, fuck,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: like I need to do something here. I don't know, man,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I don't get a good feeling about this.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing that again, we're not bashing him, No, no, not.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: At all at all, because it could listen one hundred
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: percent could be that he's very cautious. He was in
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: a long term relationship maybe that ended bad or whatever.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: He could trauma or things that happened.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: In the past, right, and we haven't like got I
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: know about the relationship, but we haven't gotten that far
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: into it. And I again, like it's not my place
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: to be, like tell me everything. Then, yeah, but also
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: he doesn't know about my because he never asked, so like, yeah, whatever, that's.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: A weird thing. I wanted to know every detail of
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: my wife's.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Past, which I feel like is at this point would
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: be fair.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because then but then here's how insecure I was.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I wanted details. And then when she told me I got.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: You, yeah, I got mad, Like, well, yeah, the hell.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Okay. In retrospect, what probably would have been better is
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: if he did feel that way when you're in his
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: bed and you're cuddling and doing a little bit of kissing,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that's when he would have said, listen, before we go
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: any further, like I like you, but it's a little
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: bit too soon. Can we just chill and go to
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: sleep or something like that.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I would have been like, yeah, totally fine, Yeah, I
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: understand that.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I just can't get over you're in the bed. He's
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: a man, I'm a man. There had to have been
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: an arousal if.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: You will, I would hope, so a little bit.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Right, and then he just rolled over. It's it's a
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: little bit interesting. Yeah, Okay.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Also when we woke up the next morning, like no
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: good morning, kiss, no nothing, So I was like, oh,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I literally texted my friend and was like, this is
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: the weirdest night of my life.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Can I give you an honest please do possibility, please do?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to make you feel bad at all.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: It's okay. Everything you're gonna say, I've probably already.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Thought if he's just not into yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And I've thought that again.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: It's like the texting, like he's like, I want you
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: to know that I am into which is fine.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: You can say that all you want, but you can't,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Like if you can't show it, then at what point
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: am I going to be like, well, I can get
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: this elsewhere.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: You can move on and that's fine. And you know
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: what if if that is the case and he and
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: he did not want to sleep with you because he
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: knows he's not into you, then you know that's the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: right thing to do.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He did also do me like the luxury of
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: telling me I'm.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Telling you one hundred percent right. But you think about
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: what most men do. They try to sleep with you,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, even if they know it's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be for one time. Yeah, you know, like when
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: that girl up to talk back yesterday and she's like,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: what the hell I go on all these dates and
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: all the dude wants to do is take my clothes off.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: That's it, you know. So look who's barging in. Look
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: at him and he just walks right in. Well, it
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: is Wednesday. It is when the mighty McKay with a Wednesday.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Hat is it Wednesday?
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Today is Wednesday?
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Wow? Oh does McCabe know the story? We should get
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: his thoughts on it? Do you care?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: McKay pull up to the Micahons, Riley and I have
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: a meeting right now.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Oh you do? Okay, Well it's okay real quick though.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Can we give you get your take on this? Do
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you know about her boyfriend situation?
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Oh he's not my boyfriend, no good friend.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm the guy situation. Cliff notes she was working
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: with the guy at the Bruins. They had a little
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: bit of a relationship. Yeah, she told him, asked her out.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: They went out, going good. Few dates. They have a kiss.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: On the third date. Chemistry is there. Yeah, going good.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: This past weekend, she's with him, it's late, he says,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: why don't you just sleep over? She says, okay. They
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: get into his bed. She's wearing his clothes because she
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: didn't have a bag with her. Okay, they're in bed,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: there's a little bit of cuddling, there's a little bit
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: of kissing, and then he rolls over and goes to
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: sleep and does not do anything further. The next morning,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: he wakes up, doesn't give her a morning kiss. Nothing
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: happens the next morning, oh yeah, and then he goes
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: golfing with his friends and then text her later on.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, I talked to my friends and they
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: were asking what happened. I told him, and ah, what
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: did he say? Exactly? The next day basically.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: They told me that you probably think I'm not into
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: you because nothing happened.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Oh see, I think that's redeeming. I think that's actually
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: a little a little redeeming quality right there, that he
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: didn't try anything that he didn't he didn't realize that
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: he was being like, you know what else he said
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: to her, though romantic he said.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: He as the reason why. He said, well, you know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I usually don't hook up with strangers. Strangers he said, strangers.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did use strangers. I don't think so.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: No. And not only that, he is not even booked
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: a follow up date or get together. There's nothing on
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the books. Is he not into her, McCabe? Do you
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: think or is he just try to? I know?
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Like no, I think he might just be alof genuinely, yeah.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Is he an a loof person?
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Like not really? Though?
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Is the thing like he's like openly talked about how
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: like he overthinks like everything.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm like, okay, that that could be something
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: he could be in his head about it, right, you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: I don't like the straight people scare of me sometimes
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: because it's like, genuinely, this man could be deeply in
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: love with you and straight men just don't know how
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: to express it.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point, yeah men straight men, Yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I can attest to that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I agree with that he did make a mention about
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: something like I forget what we are talking about, but
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: it was like six months like if if we are
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: still like if you think, like if I think that
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: this is still going to go somewhere, And it was
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: like six months, God, what is that like? No, not
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: even like really about me, but just like I was like,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: if you don't know that you like somebody and want
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: to date them by six months in that seems.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Oh you should know by two dates, That's.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: What I'm saying. I literally went in his face. I
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: was like, just six months, what are you talking?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Oh no, it sounds like you might be wasting some time.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? Are you having fun? Yeah?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: That's what it's like. She wors together.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but what's crazy is that when she first
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: started dating them, I was because you know, I like
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to be like a big brother to Riley, right, So
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, I go, you can do what you want.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: You're you're own, you're a big girl, you're an adult.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I go, But don't sleep with them on the first date.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Make them wait a little bit. That's the thing I have, right,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: It's like, give dating, don't give it all to him
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: if you feel it, okay, but like try not to.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: And so she didn't, and now here we are the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: fucking fourth date. She's sleeps over his house and the
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: guy does nothing. You don't have to answer this, but
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: what did you want to would be okay with.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't go into the situation being like I'm
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: gonna have sex with you.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: But she thought that. She thought that when he asked
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: if she wanted to sleep over and she said yes.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: There's usually a level of implication that that may happen, right,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: and by you saying yes, it's like a checkbox.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Kind of obviously you need to get an.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Explicit checkbox, but there's like there's kind of an error
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: to it where it's like, oh, this may happen.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Not that you guys need to know this, but I
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: was wearing like a really nice pair of underwear too,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: because like, if he sees it, he sees it, but
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: if he doesn't, he doesn't nice.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I love a good pair of underwear.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Wasted it, that's nice.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: My wife does not wear underwear.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Wear it again, Yeah, but like in the moment, it
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: felt wasteful underwear.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: People scare me. My wife doesn't wear underwear. I actually
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: don't like it. I like it, but I wish sometimes
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: she would at all. She doesn't wear it at all? No,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: she does. Is she okay with you telling America that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know? They know? Now?
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: It's just the after show, Army.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, would the chill.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well Billy doesn't different for a woman.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Billy doesn't either, I know yeh, and I know that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I know that from experience you've seen.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Well, sorry that came out wrong.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, well both of what we just said came
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: out wrong. Yeah, it's okay. This is the after show.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: So before you came, before we got to the rally
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: thing before he started talking about well.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Speaking of gaze, right, this is our top gay here, McCabe.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I was chanting about my friend.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Well, the mayor's going to get mad about that, but
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: it's fine.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: So he's okay. The mayor is the top gay. So
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: my friend he's eighty three McCabe. He's eighty three, the
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: mayor of the South. No, my friend is eighty three. Oh.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: He's a very flamboyant gay. And I was with him
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: last night, eighty three years old, yes, and he was
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: talking to me. You would love this guy. And he
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: was talking to me about the very early days when
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: he came out in like the sixties, Oh my god,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and how taboo it was and he had to hide
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: it and they would like kill you if you were gay.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, it's it was so much different than.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: Now, the things that that person has seen yep, across
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: the last not even eighty years, the last twenty years. Yes, yeah,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: from the early o's to now is insane. No, what
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: else he told me new gay people don't know how
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: lucky they have it right to the past. But hey,
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: that's that's progress.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know they shouldn't. You shouldn't have to know
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: how lucky you have it. Just be grateful for what
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you have now. Yeah. Right. He told me that he
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: had a lover that he was with for a decent
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: amount of time and the lover left him for another guy,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and the other guy gave him HIV and then yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and so he didn't end up sleeping with him again,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: the lover. But that's crazy. He was telling me all
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: types of stuff. I was thinking about you because you're
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: my gay friend.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: He's like, I can't wait to pass on this wisdom
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: of a cave.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I know, that's great.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: I think about you when when I'm like doing my
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: leg workouts.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, but are you doing legs? And not much? But
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you got a week. Don't neglect halfier body. We've talked
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: about this, but I'd like I ride my bike every day.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Let's go do the peloton or i'd go outside. I'm
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: actually going to New Hampshire to get my actual bike
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: today where I have a storage unit in Portsmouth? Really
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I ed to live there.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: You still have that?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Like almost ten years later, I still have my storage
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: unit in Portsmouth.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: What's in there? Just a bunch of shit because I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: live in a tiny apartment. Oh yeah I have.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: I'm like, it's cheap up there. It's like one hundred
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: bucks a month.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: So you have a bikes unit, have a bike, nice
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: road bikes. I have a massive unit that's hold on,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I mean save that. That's what I do.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: Why does your hat say Wednesday? Okay, this is really funny.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: I didn't realize today was Wednesday. I'm wearing a Wednesday hats.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: Wednesday's a band.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: You wear it on not Wednesdays. That seems weird. Yeah,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: on a Thursday.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: I think that's actually funnier. It's a little on the
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: nose to wear Wednesday had on Wednesday?
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: And I love the Cave. He goes to every concert.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's fucking Ariana Grande or Wednesday.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: He's there. Smaller bands like Wednesday, what kind of music.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: It's like uh in thee like rock. It's a girl
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: fronted group. MJ.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Lenderman was the guitar guitarist forever. He dated the lead
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: singer and he's like he's shreds he's so good.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, did they play recently in Boston?
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of weeks ago at a road runner
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: insanely sold out show.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Yeah, you know how
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: because of your position in the in the radio business,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: very important. No, I know, but you know because one
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: of the the advantages and bantages you have is you
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: get tickets to shows. Right, what about these smaller shows?
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I buy the tickets. You buy them smaller shows.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Right, you bought you paid to see Wednesday?
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: But if it's a smaller band, I always try to
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: buy it. Yeah.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Oh that's kind of nice of you.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: If it's like Aria and Grande, I'm absolutely asking for
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: tickets for yeah someone yeah, or hoping they get.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: You automatically get a pair of tickets to this shows.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Sometimes because you work with the labels, they want you.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: They want us to go, like see the show so
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: we can be wooed and then add the record.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Ah, that's why they send radio people to the shows.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Are you excited about the Ariana release? That's a big deal.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I am pedal.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I found out if that's the album name or just
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: a single.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Everyone keeps saying album, but there's no Nobody knows. Really,
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: the label doesn't even know. Like I asked them like
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: eight thousand times over the last month, because Gianna won't
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: stop asking me about it.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Oh right, because she's that super fan. She's got like
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the thank you Next tattoo and everything. She bought tickets
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: to all three three shows.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Like face value too. I'm like, you need to sell
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: some of those. You could pay off some good debt.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: With just go to one show. It's going to be
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the tickets. I know, it's crazy. That's a little we
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. That's advantage. Okay. I'm looking ahead at
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: the at the we have what's called logs here right,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: people listening like logs as for all the music. The
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: playlist is that I'm looking at Friday and it looks
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: like we are world premiering the Madonna Sabrina Carpenter song.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Oh it's in the log It's it's now. It is
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Oh is it a secret and we we know the
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: songs coming out? We're going to play it on Friday anyway.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: It's seeing ahead.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I've been paying attention. Oh okay, yeah,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and I saw they posted the image. But is the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: date out? It is? It is? It comes out Friday?
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: We playing Yeah, it's we play a clip of it.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: We play a clip of it on the show.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Liked it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It's very Madonna. I haven't heard it yet.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You haven't really what i'd play it for you. It's
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: really funny. I just got off a call about it
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: before I came in here. Are they going to try
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: to push it to kiss? Yeah?
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: But Donna wants like, yeah, the biggest launch in the
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: world because she's a Donna obviously.
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: You forget how big this woman is.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: I remember of like star power, like when she got
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: on that stage at Coachella, the internet like broke down.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I know, yeah, insane. Did you see the Michael Jackson movie.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I actually just saw it again last night. Did you
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: like it? I loved it. It's great.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Well, so I've seen it twice now by accident, because
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: I went on my own over the weekend. And then
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: I went to Gianna's movie thing for this horrible movie
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: deep Water.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: It wasn't horrible. It was like, it was bad, but
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: it was good to watch. Cheesy, cheesy, what's it about?
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Real quick?
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: So plane crashes first of all, and then it crashes
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: into the ocean and then they have to fight sharks.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Oh wait, are we playing like an ad spot for this?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably? Okay, I've heard by terrible, I mean really
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: good and you should go see it. Oh right, yeah,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: get your tickets. I'm not endorsing it. Okay, cool, it's
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: like shark Nado.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or is it like that Blake Lively shark movie?
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Guys, I don't watch movies. Okay, all right, but anyway,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the Michael Jackson.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Movie, the Michael movie was incredible, except for the fact
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: that they left out ninety eight percent of his entire life.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Correct, correct, That was my thing, I said. The performances,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the music was amazing and far Jackson amazing. Unreal about
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the dad also unreal? I mean everyone in that movie
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: was perfect. Yeah, they left out so much. You know
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: what another thing is that people don't know is they
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: made it seem like he left the Jackson five and
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: they came out with Off the Wall as his first
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: solo album. He released five solo albums. I was gonna
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: say yeah before that, the other thing. Yeah, there were
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: like six childhood albums. Yeah, yeah, solo Michael. Yeah, and
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Diana Ross was a huge part. They left her out
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: maybe she didn't want to be a part of it,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: as Janet Jackson didn't. And another sister and another brother.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: So it is interesting. I wonder like what, yeah there
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: was I think just LaToya Latoy is the only one. Yeah,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I wonder what that drama is. I don't know. I
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: thought I thought some of this stuff was cool. I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: learned like the beat it you know, the gangs, but
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the memory but the gang together because he saw it
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: on TV. I thought that was really cool. It was
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: all of the positive things about Michael Jackson was produced
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: by his family.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't a good movie.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: To go see if you don't know that much about
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: my Absolutely yes, even though it's not going to be
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: like you're going to have a very positive view of
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: him if you, well, I know about some of the
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: bad stuff.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Was never found guilty. The FBI had a seventeen year
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: investigation into Michael. They could found this. They found zero
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: evidence that he abused children.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and this movie makes you think, like it has
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: made you rethink everything that everyone said about him, right,
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: which I'm sure was the family's you know.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well they show up visiting the sick kids and
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: what he did, He really did that stuff, right, So it's.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: Like they show him doing all this like like child
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: friendly stuff from a charitable standpoint from the beginning, and
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: they kind of they paint him as this what he was,
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: he was a kid who never got a childhood, so
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: he got stuck in the child world.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: His animals were his friends, right.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's giving Brittany a little.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Bet even more stream than that.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, real quick before we go, you both
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: opened your mouth at the same time.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: What did you want to say?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: We weren't a kiss? Oh thank you?
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: So you guys are kind of far away for a kiss.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I'm good over the thing.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm kissing. I got to con heated rivalry night
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: at Fenway.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: You did, I did? Somebody sent me that?
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Wow, all right, well became. I know you don't have headphones,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: but good morning, this is loose, Lucy. I have a
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: little advice for you.
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: Riley make sure when you're going for those tickets for
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: the heated rivalry that you follow the promotion all the
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: way through to purchase, or you'll show up at Fenway
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: and I'll be looking at your sad face when you say,
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: but I wanted my shirt and hat. Follow the promotion
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: all the way through to the end.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: What does she mean?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I have no idea, because Kelly bought the tickets awesome.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: So is her name loose Lucy?
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what she deemed herself.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know why know what that means. The talkbackers
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: can give themselves any name they want. That's how it
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: is my talkback maybe. Oh yeah, I kind of already
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: have that right Yeah, well yeah, get to pick. Well,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Billy gave you that one. Yeah, what does that mean
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: followed through?
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I'm to keep it in your cart.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming there's like maybe multiple steps, like even after you.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Kelly said, we're in eighty dollars to
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: get the jersey and the hat. Yeah, because it's the VIP.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: I was so pissed they did a hot dog night
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: yeah with the hot dog hats. Yeah, and they were
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: so sick.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I like those hats. Actually I've seen I went to the.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Hot dog night.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: We didn't get that hat too late for the hat
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: you showed up too late.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what does that mean? I'm just, you know, nothing
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: like a good Glizzie. Yeah, nothing like.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing like the Menoe frank.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, actually can I No, I can't do that. What
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: what do you mean? I have a hot take that
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I think will get me canceled.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Say it. It's just the after show.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: The after show is a safe space. But space will
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: tell us. Well, now I've had better hot dogs and
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Fay franks. Oh that's not that's okay. They boiled.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, I love a grilled hot dogs. I wanted
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: to have a split in it.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: If the Caam hot dogs are fantastic, yeah, grill.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Them the spicy one, so.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: The roller. If they had rollers, they didn't get.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: To give us any of the spicy ones. I looked
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: through that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Really, there's some in the regular in the fridge. We
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: have hot dogs here.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: When the fridge takes them there, they're good till June. Like, calorically,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: I cannot do that.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: You live alone?
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Are going to do it? Fifteen hot dogs?
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Well, you know summer is coming. You know you might
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: want to Oh my god stop.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's the atmosphere of eating a hot dog.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Or it's the best. There's nothing, there's nothing better in life.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: What are you putting it?
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Ketchup and mustards. I'm playing. I don't eat ketchup psychopath playing.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: You wanted my theory on it. When you're a kid, listen,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: when you're a kid growing up, they're like, oh, ketch up, mustard,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: relish onions, it's great, it's okay, you put all this
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: stuff on there. They never say, hey, why don't you
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: try it? Plain. Then I got older, it became an adult,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and one day I was like, let me try a plane.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: You know what, I liked it better.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: I've got a plane to me and this is a
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: number one hot dog fan. To me, hot dogs are
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: an excuse to eat ketsup and mustard. I don't like ketchup, okay,
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: bill me a lot of ship for putting ket.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Especially mustard, because ketchup you can put in on fries,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: but mustard and Relish love mustard.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Literally like a bird.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: It's literally made for hot dogs because well you put it.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: You can't put a pickle on a hot dog.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: You put it in tartar sauce. Mayo and relish is
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: tartar sauce. That's all it is.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I don't ye not a connoisseur of tartar sauce all
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: that much.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: All this pickles and hot dog talk with my caves
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: make me feel weird?
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Is it making you want a steak bomb?
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I gotta get some steak moms. Wait, I'm going to
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: New Hampshire today. You guys, I know you're on a
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: portsmouth though. That's different from where I am.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Is he asking us to hang out or something?
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: You can come by my house. It's a different area.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: You can come buy any time. Yeah, I got the
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: ice bat the son of the hot tub. Pool's not open.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: We have go carts like you know, electric bikes do.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: My house is a funhouse there. No, you'd have a
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: great time go cart. Well, yeah, we have different things
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: fit that possibly I can fit. I was gonna say
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: we're not the same size muscle wise, So that's so funny.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: He has nothing to say. Just was like, do I
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: choose the high road?
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I'm getting buff?
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Only there was like a video of this happening.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Actually, it was so confused and sad. He was like, well, mcave,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: thank you for coming in. Producer Riley, thank you very much.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: How about the countdown? Mcave? Is that coming to me
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: at some point, at some point today? Even more now?
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: No, it's gonna be still got to do Riley's air check.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: Who by the way, killing Oh, I know.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I hear stuff gives you a big shift? Which what
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: is it? She's moving to Sunday Sunday afternoon four or
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: one two, three, three three? Look at you?
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Wow?
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Nice? All right? I don't need the countdown like I
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: need to bye tomorrow morning.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: He needs it right now?
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, but thank you text me no, no, no, and
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: you know what he has to Tonight's fine? Well, no
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: it's not me, it's not you know who it is.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: It's Bill the candid microphone. No one ever knows when
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: he's talking into the candid microphone. Let's kick it off
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: for the last week's number three song, and we gave
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: it to Olivia Dean, So Easy to fall in Love.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I'm a cave. I have to do the whole thing
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: over because of that just weird jeans? Is he kidding me?
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Is it's on some weird drug? Anyway? Gives them. I'm
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: putting the boat back in the water. It's not my
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: wrath you have to deal with. It's him. I heard
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: you play that the other day. It makes no sense.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: No, well, the bleeps it makes sense.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, I can imagine what's in the bleeps. Yeah, the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: jeans thing.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: By the way, I've never been able to defend myself
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: directly about this.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: The peg jeans. That's not what that means. That's what
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: he says. I googled it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: And by the way, this is google good pegging is
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: I did google what pegging is? The one that I
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: didn't already know. Right, But pegging doesn't apply to the
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: gay community, right, it's only to have both.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, Anyway, I think they're called cuffed jeans, right, So
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: what I do is I cuff them.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, Beyonce, You're welcome.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: I cuffed them because it looks cute and I can't
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: find the pant length that I want, so, oh.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: So you can adjust it to the correct length. I
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: got you. You don't have to defend the pants. Yeah.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: What's the other one I googled? Is like from the sixties.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: That's where you make the legs tighter to make your skinnier.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: That's why you know Bill's and old heads, that's probably why.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Where did that even come from?
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: You just say that he has all these old terms
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: that he comes.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Up with, Yeah, like a shit heel.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: And we were like, yeah, probably.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: I googled what it meant because I was like, I
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: don't think I think you made that up. No, it
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: means like you're like the lowest of the low. You're
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: like to ship on a heel.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I should like that one. Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: call mcab a shithill on that. Yeah.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we might remind him about that one.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, McCabe, thank you, thank you. After show
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: back tomorrow, maybe we'll get Billy on to talk about
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the most Influential list. Yeah, he's a big deal. That
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: missed Bill, our fearless leader. Anyway, Bye bye bye