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  Speaker 1: Once again, we got to see K and Jay's show
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  Speaker 1: having some fun here. We've got Colin Kennedy from two
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  Speaker 1: four to seven. Brought him into talk some ball. Cee K.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to me, man, you made the last minute drive
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  Speaker 1: to Norman for the game. I know you talked about that.
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  Speaker 1: You tweeted it out or posted at whatever heck is
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  Speaker 1: called nowadays, tweeted out, we won't keep leave it there.
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  Speaker 1: We would not change, we would not conform. Then you
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  Speaker 1: got to do the post game afterwards, which I know
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  Speaker 1: that feeling was just beyond electric. Now that it's settled,
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  Speaker 1: how'd you end up there and how did you feel
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  Speaker 1: about that game? Because that was huge?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen. Shout out to Mike Hauk and Eric Hollyer,
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  Speaker 2: two members of the Oklahoma Athletics Sports information department. So
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  Speaker 2: basically the story goes quickly. We knew going into the
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma Michigan game that specifically for our site, the extra
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  Speaker 2: hands would certainly help. And I am not someone who
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  Speaker 2: attends games in Norman on a week to week basis.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't in multiple years because I lived away in
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee for a couple of years. But then also as
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  Speaker 2: the recruiting guy, you work Thursday night, Friday night games
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  Speaker 2: get up the next day. You've been away from family
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  Speaker 2: and friends for a while, but you also got to
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  Speaker 2: work again that day. So usually I just stay away,
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  Speaker 2: stay down here in Texas, try to be present before
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  Speaker 2: I pick up work again, and then obviously let the
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  Speaker 2: folks in Norman take care of it boots on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: But like I mentioned, we had gotten some goals in
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  Speaker 2: from corporate. The mustache has told us, hey, better buckle up.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna increase your numbers this month by a pretty penny.
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  Speaker 2: And so the thought was like, look, if I can
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  Speaker 2: get to this Oklahoma Michion game, we can. We not
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  Speaker 2: only can make it payoff, but we've got a shot
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  Speaker 2: to hit some goals. And I told Oklahoma's SID crew, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna put in for a credential. That being said,
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  Speaker 2: if I can't get in for whatever reason, I totally
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  Speaker 2: get it. And they actually ended up denying me my
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  Speaker 2: credential because, and again I totally understood. They were like, listen,
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  Speaker 2: we have so many media members coming into town from
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  Speaker 2: not just the Michigan beat, which is extensive, the national beat.
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  Speaker 2: The amount of attendees across the country coming into Norman
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  Speaker 2: for that Oklahoma game. I mean it was nuts and
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  Speaker 2: so I understood. Was I a little bit sad? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: But then fast forward to that Saturday. I take my
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  Speaker 2: father in law out to breakfast early in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. I get home, put on the favorite pair
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  Speaker 2: of sweats, pour my cup of hot Joe, my little
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  Speaker 2: morning routine, start folding laundry with my wife before obviously
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  Speaker 2: getting ready to work that evening. And at eleven thirty am,
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  Speaker 2: I got a call saying, hey, late cancelation by one
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  Speaker 2: of the Michigan Beat reporters. If you can get here
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  Speaker 2: like now, we'll get you in the press box. I
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  Speaker 2: picked up the laundry I was folding with my wife
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  Speaker 2: and threw it in the car. I didn't even know
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  Speaker 2: what it was. I wasn't sure what I was packing
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  Speaker 2: in that moment. Immediately chucked it, got in the shower,
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  Speaker 2: put on a polo and pants with an actual button,
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  Speaker 2: and floored it up. I thirty five made it in
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  Speaker 2: record time, too, which speaks to almost the destiny nature
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  Speaker 2: of that weekend, and then was back at Oklahoma for
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  Speaker 2: a home game for the first time since twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: It was awesome. You know, when I was a student
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  Speaker 2: at O You, Josh, Josh Collaway and I used to
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  Speaker 2: do the instant reaction videos together as students covering the team,
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  Speaker 2: and we got to do that on Owen Field for
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  Speaker 2: the first time in years. Josh and I had known
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  Speaker 2: each other for years. I met my wife at his wedding.
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  Speaker 2: We went to college with his wife, and the whole
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  Speaker 2: day home against the victory of the places Electric couldou
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  Speaker 2: fans give me credit for Oklahoma winning whenever I show
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  Speaker 2: up for the first time in years, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: say yes, but I'm not gonna debate you if you
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  Speaker 2: do propose that. That being said, it was it was
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  Speaker 2: great to be back in Norman and covering this team. Man,
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  Speaker 2: It's it's fun right now.
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  Speaker 3: I always think that that that you you kind of
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  Speaker 3: that that that you probably did cause this, right, you know,
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  Speaker 3: right you were being an attendant, something we haven't had
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  Speaker 3: since twenty twenty one, and like.
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  Speaker 1: Since you've been gone, we have to change coaches. So
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  Speaker 1: I think I can see it. I kind of see
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  Speaker 1: the core.
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  Speaker 2: I'm an unbiased member of the media. I I I
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  Speaker 2: do not affiliate myself with any one singular team success
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  Speaker 2: or failures, but I did return to Norman for the
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  Speaker 2: first time in several years, and they arguably won one
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  Speaker 2: of the most meaningful games in Brent Benable's tenure. And
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  Speaker 2: the correlation there or lack thereof, is totally up for
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  Speaker 2: interpretation exactly.
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  Speaker 1: We'll let y'all debate that with yourselves, but I'm totally
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  Speaker 1: there with you on that. The good thing is you
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  Speaker 1: made it. You made it. We got the win. This
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  Speaker 1: was the second, I say, the second game where we
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  Speaker 1: would we all feel like Oklahoma was so physically imposing
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  Speaker 1: on the competition that it was like, who are these dudes?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I've outside this one in Alabama. Those
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  Speaker 1: two games made me feel like, if this team can
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  Speaker 1: do that every week, there's no one that's gonna beat them.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy to even I don't feel like it's crazy
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  Speaker 1: to believe that, but it's crazy just to think that. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma for real is putting together a trench set of
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  Speaker 1: players that we we've been dreaming of since Brinvinables left
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  Speaker 1: the first time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, talking about it after the game and
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  Speaker 2: curious for your take. Sitting in the stands, I thought
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  Speaker 2: there was an air of confidence, almost like a new
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  Speaker 2: found level of buy in from those players and the
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  Speaker 2: fans in the stands that hadn't been felt at Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: in a little while now. There have been moments of
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  Speaker 2: impressive performances, but that game, specifically, to me, felt like
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma's fan base and the players on the field and
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  Speaker 2: the coaching staff from the get go on a massive stage.
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  Speaker 2: They knew and felt like they were the better team
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  Speaker 2: throughout four quarters of play against a highly ranked foe
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  Speaker 2: and a very capable football team, by the way, And
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  Speaker 2: I think that I think that's a big deal. I
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  Speaker 2: mean when they scored just before halftime, and I want
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  Speaker 2: to say that was the offensive that followed the Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: defense stopping Michigan's offense and they missed the field goal, yep,
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  Speaker 2: and like that momentum. I remember watching Taylor Wan and
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  Speaker 2: some of Oklahoma's defensive players like turned to the crowd
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  Speaker 2: as they went into the tunnel and like go to
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  Speaker 2: fire them up, wave into the crowd, and that stadium erupted.
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  Speaker 2: And I turned to someone in the press box and said,
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  Speaker 2: you can tell everyone affiliated with Oklahoma right now feels like,
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  Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but like they're back to
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  Speaker 2: being the team that they should be. I'm curious to
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  Speaker 2: feel like if you felt that momentum in the stands too.
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  Speaker 1: The stands felt like so this game. And I said
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  Speaker 1: this before the game went down to some folks, I
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  Speaker 1: anticipated this game to be just like the Tennessee game
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  Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, going into it, it felt just like
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  Speaker 1: the Tennessee game because the fans were electric. The energy
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  Speaker 1: was there. As soon as the game got going, you
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  Speaker 1: felt like you should have you are the better team,
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  Speaker 1: you should do it. Then the turnovers started, but then
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  Speaker 1: the turnovers started back, and then the play started feeling
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  Speaker 1: like it was deflating as each turnover returned back to
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  Speaker 1: where it did not belong. It felt that exact same
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  Speaker 1: electricity because the Alabama game. And I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fans understood this is that or even recognize this.
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  Speaker 1: Going into the Alabama game, nobody thought we was gonna
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  Speaker 1: win that game. Fans didn't really think we were gonna win.
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  Speaker 1: Players they probably felt it, but they probably were like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's Bama, They're having a really good year.
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  Speaker 1: They beat Georgia in a in a massive performance, and
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  Speaker 1: then Georgia goes in Bullies Texas right twice in the
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  Speaker 1: season and so you're like, eh, all right, as long
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  Speaker 1: as we play hard, we need to make sure this
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  Speaker 1: score is respectable. That's our goal tonight be respectful.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I know some players are pbably thinking, O,
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  Speaker 1: we were gonna beat them, but cool. I'm glad you
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  Speaker 1: felt that way. Most of us was like, I just
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  Speaker 1: want the score to be respectable. So the energy going
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  Speaker 1: into that game wasn't as hype this one, Michigan. Just
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  Speaker 1: like Tennessee. You felt like, Nah, we're gonna go in
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  Speaker 1: here and we're gonna kick your tail. And you felt
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  Speaker 1: it with everybody around, especially that first drive when we
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  Speaker 1: marched down the field first off that thirty one yard
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  Speaker 1: pass by John Mattieir to Diyon Burks, and everybody looked
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  Speaker 1: around and was like, oh, yeah, we got a quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: we got an offense, We've got something we ain't seen
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  Speaker 1: since Dylan Gabriel was here. We got that. And to me,
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  Speaker 1: the moment that catch was made on that fade, because
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  Speaker 1: he had some balls to throw it from where he did,
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  Speaker 1: he just kind of stepped back and just said launch.
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  Speaker 1: And when he did that, everybody's entire interpretation of that
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  Speaker 1: game completely changed. You saw, you felt the electricity around
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  Speaker 1: after that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to talk about that opening drive and
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  Speaker 2: what I feel that meant to Oklahoma's performance the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the way, because I think there's a ton of
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  Speaker 2: deeper meaning to that first drive. But the other big
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  Speaker 2: overarching theme that I wanted to ask you about, when
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  Speaker 2: is the last time? And I could I can't come
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  Speaker 2: up with an answer, But also I just want to
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  Speaker 2: hear you speak to you touch on it. Not only
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  Speaker 2: the level of physicality that that Oklahoma team displayed over
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  Speaker 2: four quarters. I mean, they they beat the hell out
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  Speaker 2: of Michigan like I have I haven't felt like Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: was overmatching physically an opponent like that in a long time.
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  Speaker 2: But then also just like outside of what was actually
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  Speaker 2: happening between the whistles, that feel of mental and physical
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  Speaker 2: toughness and the edge that they played with on both
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  Speaker 2: sides of the ball, that for me was palpable. Like
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  Speaker 2: you felt that Oklahoma team carry an air of swagger,
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  Speaker 2: aggression and like they were like they were having fun
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  Speaker 2: but in a controlled, mean way. And that's just not
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  Speaker 2: something that we've seen very often in Norman, but that
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  Speaker 2: was very real on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: It was and to your point, It's funny because I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned this on the live and I've said this to
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  Speaker 1: a I've tried to reason this with fans, and I
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  Speaker 1: have an appreciation now for what Brent Venables has find
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: I guess you could say him and Schmitdti has figured out,
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  Speaker 1: because it sounds like Schmidti is more pushing BV to
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  Speaker 1: calm down in some capacities. Is that to play the
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  Speaker 1: brand of physical football we want to play, there will
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  Speaker 1: be collateral damage. You will, unfortunately injure some of your
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  Speaker 1: own players because you're building your team up with a
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  Speaker 1: tolerance to be able to handle not only being pushed,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: but to deal said punishment. Good example in this one,
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  Speaker 1: we've knocked out a few Michigan players, right their top
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  Speaker 1: guard out the game. I think they saw. I think
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  Speaker 1: we saw like two more linemen shift out for a
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  Speaker 1: bid and come back from those injuries. Then you saw
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  Speaker 1: defensive players get trucked and leave. You saw a wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver get leveled and he walked around dizzy afterwards. That
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  Speaker 1: physicality knock on wood. We didn't see nobody on our
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: team actually in theory leave Fasusi hurt his ankle, but
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  Speaker 1: he said he's fine. So I think someone wrote on him.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that physicality we want to play. We have
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  Speaker 1: been showing it, and they've been showing it since Brent
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  Speaker 1: Vinibles has been here. I also think that that's I
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  Speaker 1: guess you could say now that we're in the fourth
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  Speaker 1: year of this colin. We are in the fourth year
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  Speaker 1: of Brent Vinables trying to instill that level of toughness
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  Speaker 1: on everybody on the roster. And now that we're playing
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  Speaker 1: with his recruits, his players, ones that have been in
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  Speaker 1: the system for two three years. They built up the
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote callouses to handle that level of physicality, and
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  Speaker 1: we're seeing more and more e each week, week over week,
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  Speaker 1: big game over big game. They're pushing people around and
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  Speaker 1: so the Bama game was a great Tennessee Honestly, we
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: were pushing them around in that game too, Like Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: was kind of shambles in a lot of that game.
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  Speaker 1: We just kept giving the ball back at the wrong time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where you start to see it. And so
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  Speaker 1: I guess for me, the appreciation I'm having more and
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  Speaker 1: more for BV when I really think about this, and
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  Speaker 1: as you mentioned it on that first drive, when you
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: started to see that our fear was this offensive line.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: We wanted to know what this line was going to
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  Speaker 1: look like. And they were able to handle that defensive line,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: even though it is still a quote unquote shell of
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: the first rounders that they had there last year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're still good players, they still have really good depth.
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  Speaker 1: We handled them the past. Protection was ridiculously great. We
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: probably need to move better on the run, but it
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: feels like that's kind of a it feels like it's
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: like a like a like it just it's happening like
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  Speaker 1: that because of the RPO, right, it's like an after
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  Speaker 1: effect or something of that nature, for lack of better terms.
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  Speaker 1: Because we're trying to run so much RPO, the linemen
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  Speaker 1: aren't getting where they need to or at least a
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  Speaker 1: push that you want. But we're pushing people around and
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  Speaker 1: I am never been more excited. But for you, as
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned that on that drive looking at it from
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the distance because you got the full view, how did
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: that look to you as they made that drive down,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: because it was what let me see twelve play seventy
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  Speaker 2: So this is what I want to talk about with
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  Speaker 2: that that offensive drive. I don't mean this to be hyperbolic,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: but that first drive they go down and score, and
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  Speaker 2: the way that they went about it. I sat up
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  Speaker 2: there and I went win this game. Like they're doing
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: what they need to do to go win this game.
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  Speaker 2: talking about John Mattier and the offensive line and some
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  Speaker 2: Buckle for a second because I think I think what
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: we didn't talk about enough going into that game was
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: that his game plan and approach was ultimately going to
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: decide Oklahoma's ability to go win. John Mattier could be
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: John Mattier, but if the right play call wasn't called
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: against someone like Wink Martindale god spent nineteen years in
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: the NFL, does it really matter? And Ben Arbuckle put
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: on a little bit of a masterclass man. So I
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: thought his layered awareness within this game plan Jane was outstanding.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: And here's what I mean by that. Oklahoma's going into
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: this game. It's a massive game. The jitters are going
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: everyone might be a little bit nervous. They're playing against
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a vaunted Michigan in front seven defensive front. Obviously there
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: are significant losses there, but Michigan recruits those positions at
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: a very high level. The expectations for them were high.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: The expectations for this Oklahoma offense relatively unknown. But on
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: top of that, Jay four out of five new starters
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: in the offensive line. Ben Arbuckle knew that he knew
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: he had a core of backs that needed to get
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: settled into the game. Whether that's Jay not still shaking
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: the rust off from that fall camp injury, whether that's
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Tory Blaylock who probably shouldn't have played but did and
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: definitely needed to get settled, or even like a Javante
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Barnes who maybe the confidence may have been a bit
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: shaken at the start of the year when the social
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: media stuff comes. I mean, obviously I think we all
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: know the deal there, and then look like Jaron Knnick,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: get that guy involved, get him going these receivers. Basically,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say is Ben Arbuckle knew that
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: so many different layers of his offense to get comfortable
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: in this game in order to then open up the playbooks.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: So what did he do from the jump? We're gonna
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: go a ton of empty sets. We're gonna spread this
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Michigan defense out. We're gonna go pre snap motion, force
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: them to basically declare early. And once we know that
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: they're spread thin and we kind of have a sense
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: of what they're getting ready to do, we're gonna make
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: him go one on one against John Matier. And it worked,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and it worked for a number of different reasons. Go
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: plus one in the run game against a spread thin defense,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: you're obviously gonna like those looks.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Then John is able to feed off of that momentum
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: and he's throwing the ball to Dion Burks and like
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: you saw it, the groove got going right. But what
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I also loved about that Jay he made Michigan play
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: against John Mattier. It started working. You saw that offense
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: get downhill. And then what did he do? He went on,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: all right, now let's go to the drop back passing game. Now,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: let's let these offensive linemens set. Now that they've gotten comfortable,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: they've bashed helmets a little bit and they're feeling a
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: little bit. Then what did he do? Let's get this
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: run game going. Now that we're into like the second quarter.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Let's get Tory Blaylock out there and take some hits. Yeap,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Let's get Jay Nod in here. Let's get Javonte Barnes
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: in here and get him going. And once everything started
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: running cohesively off of that first drive, there were miscues,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: there were mistakes, but they never really looked back, or
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: at least they never really looked like the unit we
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: saw a season ago. Nope, we can talk about a
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: number of different players here on the show tonight, anyone
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: that stood out to you. But I really wanted to
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: start off the top with Oklhom's offensive coordinator because I
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: thought the approaching game plan, specifically from the first drive on,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: it was outstanding, It was aware, and it ultimately, in
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: my opinion, helped Oklahoma win the game.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: No, that's a very good point, because I don't think
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: we get been our buckle enough flowers for the performance
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: in this game. I don't think we did, because it's
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: easy to point out, like you said, it's easy to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: point out John Mateer being Jeometier and just taking the team,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: putting the boys on his back and just going because
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: he can carry a team like that. He's shown he's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: built to do that. But if the play call isn't right,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: if the team isn't prepared for said play calls, then yeah,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that stuff can look super dysfunctional. It looked very organized.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: It looked like it was where it's supposed to be,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: even John's interception, Like I was looking at Aaron Murray
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: over there at it was snaps is what it used
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: to be called, but it has a new channel or whatnot.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: And I think it's Mack and Murray. I think it's
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: what the show's calling you too, but former, you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Georgia quarterback, and he breaks down the play and he
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: pointed out and gay Biker pointed this out too, And
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I've set this numerous times that mateer seems to throw
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the ball to spaces where the receiver is supposed to
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: be rather than too directly to the player in a
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: lot of situations, especially on some timing calls. And that
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: interception felt like similar to the Dion Burks one. The
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: receiver is supposed to be here, but they would here,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: And no, Will Huggins is a giant. I mean, I
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: understand he's like, what six six six seven is a
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: giant human beings, So I get throwing it up for
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: him to get it and makeing sure goats over the linebackers.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Which speaking of which, uh, we threw a lot of
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: passes across the middle. You don't usually see that with
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: shorter quarterbacks. It's not a common thing. It's usually thrown
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: out to the outside. Hit him in flats. John's launching
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it across the middle, like Kyler was good at that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: He was really good at throwing it across the middle,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and Baker for the most part, was as well. But
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: you're seeing this a lot. You saw. I saw this
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: with John a lot more in this game than I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: thought I would because Michigan's got some pretty big linebackers,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: and even with when Barham came back in, we still
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: went at him. There was literally no fear in that.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So yeah, barm is.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Just it's so funny because cuz I pointed that out
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: on socials and of course someone had to come back.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Oh well, he got bounced up. I'm like, I don't
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: think you realized how that worked. When can it hit him?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: He may have bounced up, but literally can it just
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: turned his body and took the dude completely out the play.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: That's what you want from a dude that likes to
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: hit people. That's like his thing, his whole mo his
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: ethos in life is running through an Mfor's face. It's
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: really it. He's not here for the quote unquote tackle.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: He's here to inflict pain. Can it bounced perfectly to turn?
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: And you ain't in point of more? Brah, you're done?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: What did we talk about? So much of blocking is
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: getting to your spot when you need to be there
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: and springing the playloose the way you need to. And
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that's what he did. I mean, not all blocking has
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: to be pancakes, but he came and arrived with authority
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: where Barrom was and that was exactly the block that
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: had to spring material loose. And again he held his
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: own against a massive linebacker. Didn't just hold his own
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: like that pop right there. I mean you felt it
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: that play, Javonte Barnes block on the Dion Burks kind
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: of little motion pop. I mean that that block in
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the press box. I go, oh, like Javont Barnes, Keances
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Lewis laying down some blocks.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I mean we looked good at blocking in all of
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the quote unquote skills and exterior players on top of
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the line, like yeah, shout out, Emma Jones. They looked
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: good at blocking at the receiver room. Shout out Joe
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: John Finley, can't it looked good at blocking. Even though
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: it looked pretty good when he was out there, we
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: looked like we cared a lot about the little details
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: more than just going out there and making a statement
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and making plays. We really looked like we care And
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that more than anything. You want your team
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to go out there and not only do some highlight
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: worthy stuff. You want them to show that they care
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: about the little details that prevents you from making stupid
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: mistakes to lose games. And granted we had a few.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: You know, you throw an interception, shout out to the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: defense for forcing a punt literally three plays later, that's
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: really good thing. And then you muff a punt that
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: leads to a field goal. Yeah, okay, the defense at
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: their job of forcing a negative five possession, got to
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: do better in that. I really think it's up with
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: those lights. It's got to be because it only happens
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: at night. It's the weirdest thing. But I digress.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you speak on the interception and stuff. I
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: attestment to what you were talking about and what we're
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: discussing earlier. I think that the interception and some of
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: this stuff that throws over the middle deep in we're
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: breaking posts and whatever else. Like, it's Jeoon Materr's trust
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: and been our vocal system, trusting what he knows as
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: a quarterback. I think that for Ben Rbuckle again, I mean,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: twenty nine year old Colin plays against Wink Martindale. The
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: guy graduated high school a year before me. We're the
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: same age. Yeah, and he's calling as a twenty nine
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: year old and one of the biggest games in all
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: college football against Wink Martindale, one of the ogs of
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens defense. That's nuts. That being said John Mattier, Jay,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: you talked about him a little bit. The guy proved
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: that he is capable of doing what he was brought to.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Norman to do. Oh gosh, he's that nuts.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's something. And I think for me, something
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: that had to be solidified coming out of that game
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: was whether or not John Mattier is who we thought
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: he is. And I think that that is shown. Now.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Do I think Matier is perfect? No? Is there a
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: lot of growth still left on his plate. Absolutely putting
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: some better touch on the ball. Things of that nature missing,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: missing some throws, but that's to be expected. And Jake again,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: that's part of the reason why I mentioned here on
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: the show, like some of the stuff that is there,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: it's not ruling out a potential return to Oklahoma. In
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: my opinion, you saw those glimpses where it's like, hey, man, I.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Would like to have him back one more year. Dog,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I would what but.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: He was the guy And it's going to continue as well,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the ongoing discussion of what does the NFL think of
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: this dude, because there's no doubt right now he's one
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: of the most captivating, captivating players in college football. I
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: would be curious to know what you thought about his
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: specific performance on the biggest stage.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: He again, he did exactly what you paid him, and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: you finned it off North Carolina and Miami and other
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: schools for he came in here, put the team on
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: his back and say I'm gonna win these games. There's
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. Like the we'll we'll talk about
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: this in a bit. The coach over at Temple K. C. Keller,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: had some statements of he's not gonna be able to
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: do that that that much that often and be successful,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: in which we just literally had Diego Pavia do it
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: last year, and he's doing it again. Like literally, Diego
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Pavia's game is taking more hits than Jeometerier. And I
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: think Jeometear is actually thicker as a human being pause
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: than uh right, I'm just saying I think he's a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: bigger dude. You paid this man to come here. Lead
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: this team quickly. Take get trust with your wide receivers,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: your running backs, your offensive line, because we know you
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: have trust in your in your offensive coordinator, in your
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: quarterback coach. You got coach Kus who deserves a lot
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: of props for not only material but cam Ward helping
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: mold them into the quarterbacks. They are gotta respect that, right,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: he's living to the expectations that I had for him,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: and I had lofty ones. I looked at him, I
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: watched him play a lot of the watch I went
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: back and watched those games. I hit up somebody that
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I know, and they were able to get me some
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: all twenty two for some of those games. So I
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: went and looked. I wanted to watch him just I
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear announcers talking. I just want to
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: see you run plays. And in a lot of those games,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: he looked like the best dude on the field. He
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: had his moments where you know, there was little struggle,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: but you could tell that around him. Everything still also
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: wasn't making it that much easier, but overall he looked
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: like the best dude on the field. And so when
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: he came, I'm like, all right, you're gonna have to
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: do that. And the game that I said he has
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to do that is gonna be Michigan. This was the
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: one I said that if he does this in Michigan,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: we're good. That will be the statement that will tell
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: everybody we needs to His performance in this game was
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the most important to me of any game this season
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: because now it's the rifle. Now teams are for real
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: gonna have to like, oh, we gotta watch out for
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: this guy. And so I was listening to Todd McShay
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: go through preseason about him and then after this game,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and he kept saying he's the most competitive mffort he's
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: probably seen in a long time. And he just talked
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: about just glowingly about him and how now NFL scouts
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: even with his size, which he's what right around the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: height of Caleb Williams but a little bit bigger in
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: size and Baker a little bit bigger than Baker. You know,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: some NFL teams the height is a question because shorter
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks don't throw over the middle. That's just kind of
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the thing. Drew Brees was a different guy when it
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: came to that, because Drew was all about timing. He
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: literally calculated how long you're supposed to be there. He threw,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: and he knew you if you're there, you're catching it.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: If not, it's probably gonna get picked. It was. That's
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: kind of a thing I want Sooner fans to understand
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and be prepared for. You're probably gonna see him throw
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: picks in a lot of situations where he's gonna push
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: it to a spot where he expects his receiver to
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: be and if they pull up. I lie the Cannic
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: trick play. It felt like Cannic kind of slowed himself
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: down and he should have just kept going full speed.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: He's gonna put it in those spots that he hopes
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: that they will be in. In some situations, it's gonna
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: end up being a pick. It's gonna happen. It's gonna
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: be a tip pass that he didn't even get. Shout
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: out Satanna for knocking another one out. Yeah, think that
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: was more John than anything. That was a heck of
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: a play. And then the next play he catches that
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: d pass on the sideline. Oh, it was just there
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: was so much dude on a scramble. Look he broke
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: that tackle. That felt like what was that Baker against
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers?
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: The b sides, the side by sides of that clip
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: with MATERII to Setania and then a play that Baker
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: made an Oklahoma uniform.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: O against Tennessee.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're almost parallel.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: It's terrifying crazy, And I still have materiar comparison wise
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: to Jalen Hurts. I've always thought he's more of a
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts that can that throws a little bit better.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: That's where I've always had the comparison. But he's starting
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: to get more and more of the Baker stuff I need.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: The accuracy is there, So I'm slowly conforming to other
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: people's thoughts around bakerus. Baker was just so freaking accurate.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: But to your question and what I want to pose
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: to you, John, he performed the way like I said
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I hoped that he would in this game. Now, the
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: question I have is can John continue at this rate
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and everyone feel comfortable with it?
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, That's that's what literally everyone is asking. Uh So,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: it's been funny throughout the week, and I meanly in
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the press conference as well, but throughout the week, the
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: question of is Oklahoma really gonna run John Mattier nineteen times?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Do they have to run John mitziear nineteen times to
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: win games? That has been thrown around, specifically my direction
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: almost endlessly. The amount of Texas Longhorns fans that I
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: know who have been discussing Oklahoma's decisions running the ball
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: with John Mattier this week fascinating. I did a radio
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: show in Austin this week and multiple questions by not
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: just Texas fans, A and M fans, so many SEC
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: fan bases want to know, can John Mattier really run
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: the ball nearly twenty times a game and stay at
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: that level of place slash stay healthy? But also like,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: is that the winning formula? Is that what Oklahoma legitimately
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: has to do to go win games? It kind of
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: does help me transition to anything else that stood out
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: for you within the offense, and there are a lot
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: of angles that I would love to cover from the
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: offensive line to some of these receivers, to because the
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Michigan game provided so much in terms of individual performances,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: whatever else. What I would say is it comes back
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: to that awareness that I was talking about earlier. Right,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: they talked about after the game, Oklahoma was gonna do
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: whatever it possibly had to do to win that game.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: They knew the magnitude of that game. They also knew
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: the circumstances in the situation within that game. Right, everything
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I talked about within the health of the backs, the
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: offensive line, the Michigan defense, the advantages of going plus one.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: But then also like the stakes and when the stakes
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: are high, the stage is massive and pretty much everything's
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: on the line. Yep. Who better to trust than your
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: guy and your guy who you know can do it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is stuff that he was doing at
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Washington State. Like I'm not I'm not all that shocked
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: by it. Now. The notion that Oklahoma's gonna have to
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: run the ball with Jeometier twenty times like in the
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Temple game, come on, like, come on, guys. But I
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: also think it's very fair to realistically say, Okay, well,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: now that Oklahoma got through that game and they did
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: what they needed to do through Jometier's legs to go win.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: These running backs better step up, like, hey, we'll talk
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: about it more in a second with the rest of you. Yeah,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit more more about
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: that in a little bit, but that I think that
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: they can uphold that to a degree, not to that degree,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: but the Oklahoma run game is going to incorporate quarterback run.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: That's a fact. But they also have other avenues that
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: they can take. That was clear on Saturday, and so
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: within that offensive approach, some of these other players like
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: just tell me, man, like who are you watching on
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: that offense? To be like, man, this this looks completely
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: different compared to last year.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: It's funny. You can tell just how thirsty we really
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: are for offensive play as we've gone over thirty minutes
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: to start the show talking about the offense in that game,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: and it's just tell you how bad it was last year. Man.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Hilarious when I think about it like they do. We
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: really started to show off thirty minutes and just talking
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: about ben Arbuckle, Jeometeers and plays offense, offense, offense, because
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: this is what we knew you were going to need
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: in order to take this Brent Vinnables defense to the
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: next level. I mentioned it before that I felt like
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: this defense this year is going to be statistically better
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: than last year because the offense is going to be
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the reason why. In point from a tier, deon Bergs
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: feels like he's now the investment that we were hoping for.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: He gave you seven catches one hundred and one yards.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: He gave you a touchdown, he gave you a fade
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: route where you're like, ooh, he.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Made a couple of plays in that game.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, he made a couple of plays. You were just like, oh,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: this is why we got you last year. This is
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: why we chased you down out of the portal from Purdue.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: This is why we said now we want you. And
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the fact that you said, you know what, now I
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: want to come back because I feel like I didn't
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: leave Oklahoma back at least enough from what I took
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: from them when I was when I first came. I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: just you, I want to give back more as a player,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, you've sold my heart to
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: dog Like I love you too, man, but you got that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: And so I'd say that wide receiver room in which
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: now I'm truth be told. Emma Jones is my dude.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoy his capability. I need want of his
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: recruits to also pop off like these transfers have. Now
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I know his recruiting extends to the transfer portal too,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: but I need to see one of his young pups pop,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: which I expect. I expected the Kearney or Elijah Thomas
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to be both, if not one of them being that dude.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: But no, the wide Receiver Room, I was thoroughly thoroughly
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: and Kantes Lewis.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I love Kanta's.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Going back through the story of him Man and seeing
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: how UCLA chip Kelly Bounces, goes to Wisconsin. That coach
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: gets fired and they bring in Fickle and he no
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: longer is his dude. So he slowly falls out of
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: the depth chart and he decides, say, you know what,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I'm a bet on myself and I'm gonna go play it.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: You know, Southern Illinois, go play in the FCS. Cooks
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: gets his confidence back and now he's like, all right,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I'm backing big boy ball and sec what can I do?
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: He looked good against Michigan. He blocked, which is what
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I love most about Emma Jones is that he likes
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: his wide receivers blocked very well, and we're catching passes again. Offense,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: We've actually we've got a we've got an offense that
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: now rivals some of the tops in the country.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: There's there's a level of assuredness when Keantes Lewis is
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: targeted that I mean, he almost feels like a safety blanket.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: And I don't between the couple of plays he made
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: in the Illinois State game where like they threw him
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: the ball over the middle in the end zone and
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: you had that sense of like, Oh, he's gonna catch this. Yep, No,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not walking away from either of those performances taking
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: that for granted for him. That guy played at s
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: i U last year and he's one of the guys
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: right now in Oklahomas football team where when he gets
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: throwing the ball, you're almost like, Oh, he's he gonna
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: catch this. That's that's crazy. Speaking of crazy, here's my
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: top take on and then we'll talk about the defense.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: We'll be done, yeah, promise With the offense. Here's the
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: craziest thing for me six years ago, five to six
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: years ago. Yeah, Michael Fususi is not playing football. Okay,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: he is moving to the States with his family in
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, and he is googling American football and he
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: is saying to himself, I could probably do this now.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: He still had to learn the English language to know
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: all of these different play calls. So he learned not
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: just football, how to say football words and other simple
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: words as he grew up in this game. He I
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: mean every natural ability, god given talent you could imagine,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: but he was still so incredibly raw coming out of
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: high school and freak show athletic ability, national strength that
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: still needed to be built out, but it was there.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: He gets on campus as the number one offensive tackle
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: and a historic offensive line cycle. Nine five stars in
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: his class, eight of them being offensive tackles. He's number one,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: and yet you still were like, but he's I mean,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: he's gonna need a little bit of time to bake.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's still got stuff that he's got to
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: work through. I mean, like, genuinely, I think he would
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: tell you he still had to learn, even at that age,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: some English words.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: It's crazy to think.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: He he goes, he gets to Oklahoma's campus, he goes
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: through the offseason, and as we know, he had an
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: he had an incident in fall camp, a scary incident
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: with heat exhaustion, and he ends up not even playing
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: in the Illinois State game. So his first game as
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: a true freshman, someone who has really barely even played
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: or familiarized himself with the sport of football moved to
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: the States, like a few years ago. He's debuting as
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: a first year left tackle against Michigan and he whooped ass.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know how else to say it, Like, given
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: the context I was, I was shocked, and I didn't
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: think that that kid could surprise me anymore.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: He took it to another level with that. He really did.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: That's crazy, man, Like he didn't even have the Illinois
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: State game as a warm up. That first drive. He's
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: lining up against the likes of Derek Moore and TJ.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Guy and y'all, I'm watching his past pro reps and
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: stuff with folks in the personnel space, two separate ones,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, hey, watch this with me live, so
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I know I'm not like hyperbole, Like I'm not overemphasizing
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: what he just did here. And they're watching and I
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: want to say, it's like the third or fourth clip
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: of the cutup that he like fires his outside hand
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: and jolts a Michigan defensive end and we're sitting there like, yeah, man,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: like this kid, this kid is different. We know his
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: performance against Michigan was good, but I just wanted to
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: re emphasize he's not supposed to do that. Okay, he's
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: not even really supposed to be playing because anyone else
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: in his situation, that's an improbable outcome. The fact he
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: went and did that against Michigan can considering the context
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: and the journey to it crazy.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: It's crazy when he wild to see it. And like
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: you said, he he's going up to get some pretty
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: good defensive linemen and not even in the warm up.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: And we all know Bill Beatbow doesn't trust freshmen like
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: that that quickly, unless you're able to really know the
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: whole borderline of the entire line. But his talent is
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: just so remarkable that you just can't deny it. You
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: kind of be like, yeah, kind of gotta let you,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: kind of gotta put you out there. I ain't got
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: no choice. Yeah, he calls it, and then yeah, he's
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: got a position that he's locked up, and if he
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: makes it, he'll be here three years that's as most
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: as you're gonna get at the kid. Unfortunately, he's not
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: gonna do the four. He didn't have to, not gonna wood.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: He's so talented. That's first his first round. He's already
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: put himself on the trajectory for that as long as
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: he keeps bolling. But no, speaking of freshmen. No, yeah, defense, Yep,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: we have to talk defense because on the defensive side
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: of the ball. And I've been singing his praises. I
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: saw the praises singing for him in camp. I sung
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: his praises when he was a recruit, and I told people, man,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like this kid's a three star. He
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: definitely should be four. He moved up in four in
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: some places. Corling Gillery is a dog man like. I
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: don't think I wasn't prepared. If there was a player
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: that I was not ready to do the things that
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: he did, it was him. I knew that he was
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: gonna come in and challenge at corner. The unfortunate circumstance
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: with Eli Bowen gives him the opportunity to really run reps.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: And when Eli gets back healthy, it's gonna be tough
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: to get this kid off the field. But he walks
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: in there and it says, nah, give me the best.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I was talking to a parent about this and they
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: told me it was okay if I'm in this. That
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: the rumbles around practice with him was I want the
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: best player. Give me Dion Burks, give me Zion Kerney,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: give me Keyantes Lewis. No, no, no, no no. I
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: don't want the young freshman like me. Give me the
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: dudes that are starting right now. Give me Isaiah Satana.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: He's like, that's how I get better, And I'm just like, what.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: That is a oh no?
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I got confidence in me and if I get cooked,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: which we saw in some of those little highlights that
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: oh you put out and some of those you guys
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: put out, thence the beat when y'all were there. We
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: saw him lose a couple reps here there didn't me much.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: He goes into this game, gets targeted. Think Brody Roy
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: loves put out there. He got tarredy eight times in
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: his calculations and only gave up one catch. Teams wanted
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to pick on him, Illinois State picked on him. He
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: got the pass interfair deal, made sense, veteran move, good smart,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: but he recognized that okay, they're playing this game, let
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: me do this in a smarter way. So he kept
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: doing it, so as they kept coming after him, he
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: kept making it harder and harder. At some point they're
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: gonna realize, Okay, we can't throw this d side of
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: the ball no more because eventually he's gonna get And
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: this is not saying this in a disrespectful way, So
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: don't take this this way people. But when he wises
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: up and starts taking interceptions on top of the knockdowns,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: then nobody can throw this side of the ball anymore.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: It's literally like he's literally put them on Guillory Island.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Like it's like, no, you're not throwing them outside of
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: the ball, don't. That's what I see, And it's crazy
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: to see that. But the defenses so everything we drive
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: it more so Courtland.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I am incredibly proud of that kid. He and I
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: got to know each other well over the course of
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: the recruiting process, and I could make you an argument
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: he is one of the best defensive backs I have
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: ever seen it, specifically playing with an extreme level of
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: controlled aggression. I have never seen a layer of maturity
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: like his to playing reckless. I don't even know how
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: to describe it. The guy. The guy is like, here's
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: here's what I'm trying to vocalize. You ready, yep. We
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: would go to combines and Courtland would find the five
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: star wide receiver in attendance, and not only would he
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: wait until that player was up, he would try to
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: fight that kid off the line of scrimmage. But when
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: he's going through the rep in between the whistle, it
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: literally looks like a bar fight outside of it. But
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: if the receiver gets mad and tries to fight Cortland,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I still do not understand how he does this. Cortland
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: would never be the guy to like throw a hook
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: or do too much. He just wanted to know that
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: he was in your head. He wanted to know that,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: like he's being a pest and people probably are mad
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: at him because he loves that. And your ability to
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: do that as a corner. There's a lot of layers
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: to that, not only your ability to do that effectively
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: and not hurt your team, but never let it go
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: over the top and yet still have that physical element
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: to your game that is so hard to do, Like
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: that balance is so hard to strike in In the
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Michigan game specifically, I remember Michigan is down in the
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: north end zone and he gets tied up with Donovan McCully.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: You remember this play, Yes, it was the play where
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: off the line, both those guys fire their hands and
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: neither one wants to let go because they don't want
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: the other one to know. I'm willing to see here,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: they both want to fight. Bryce throws the ball that
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: direction over their heads. Everyone's waiting to see if it's
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: a flag, but it isn't one. You want to know why.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Because Donovan McCully was trying to fight Cortland, just like
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Cortland was, and because he was in Donovan mccully's head,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: and then just walked away from it after that play,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: because it's really easy for a true freshman in that
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: situation to want to try and throw a hook. Let's
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: just be real, Yeah, he walked away from it, and
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: in that moment, no flag. Donovan McCully is clearly frustrated
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: with this freshman, and yet Courtland did not give in
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: to the emotion of that moment. I turned this one
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: in the press box and I said that kid is different,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: A kid is different, man, and.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: He's like the young that basically hits you with the
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you. I'm not
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: touching you. Hey, I'd never touched them. I was just
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: close to them.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: He never takes it too far, but man, he's annoying
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: sometimes to deal with. And it's like, is that not
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: the best trait to have as a corner that younger
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: sibling syndrome if you know how to use it. But
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: my last thought on him is I said it in
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: the postgame. This kid keeps getting tested and he keeps
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: passing tests. He may have an A in the class
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: at this point. And it's like, if if Devin Jordan
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: is starting this week opposite of him, I'm not gonna
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: blame Temple one bit for going that way instead of
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Corlan's direction. Yep, that would be my perception of it
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: for me. The thoughts that I wanted to get from you.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: The two guys that I thoroughly enjoyed watching Owen Heineke
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: and Can Daniels. Ooh yep.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: And I was about to ask you about Kendall Daniels.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: He was the name I wanted to pick your brain
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: on as well, because I was told by so many
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma State fans that, oh, you guys are gonna have
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: fun with him. I'm like, well, what does that mean? Oh,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: he gave up on us. He blah blah blah, this, this,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: that and the other. I'm like, okay, okay, well we'll
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: see he looks and feels like he owns that defense now,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: like I know he owned shares at the University of
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Michigan and their football team, like he that hit. It
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: was like, I now call him brick because I think
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: he killed a guy the way he hit him, and
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: it was well. The funny part is CBS Sports posted
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: this on their social and I kind of feel bad
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: for Haynes on this one. Justin Hayes, Justice Hayes for
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: this Well at the same time, it's hilarious, but he
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: was pissed after he took that shot. They literally had
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the camera following him and you could see him like,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: get away from me, get away from me. Like he
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: was just hot because no matter how hard they tried
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: to block that dude, he got right around them quickly and.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Destroyed.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: You could see the soul come out of him from
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: that hit. Man. I am thoroughly impressed with how quickly
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: him and Gillory has grasped bv's defense being the two
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: new guys like that, because that's the one thing we know.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: And of course on Heinikey has been the one that
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: jumping in. BV said, he jumps in the lines when
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: he's supposed to and he's very frustrating. Will At the
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: same time, you like the ambition and you know, the
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: the one it the want to so badly out of them.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: But Kendall Daniels walking in here going to a completely
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: different defense because well he was what with Jim Nole's
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: defense first, Yeah, goes from there into what Derek Mason
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: and then whoever they had recently as d C. I
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: think he's had this. I think this is fourth DC
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: if I'm correct. Yeah, I believe Oklahoma State went through. Yeah,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I think so. I believe he was part of knows
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: last year.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. Nardo the yeah defensive coordinator. Yes,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: they hired him from a lower level of ball and
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly, but I can picture his name.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: I think it starts with an N.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I gotta look this up now because it's
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: gonna kill me. Uh. Joe Bob Clements is one of
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: the co DC's and Brian Nardo That's what I'm thinking of.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: That is who it was. Yes, Okay, so he wasn't
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: so Daniels did not have Knowles. He was with Derek Mason,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: was the first year, was the Derek Mason one. So
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: he did not get Knowles. I was wondering if he
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: had Nos or not. Well, actually I thought he played
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: for Knowles. I thought he did too. I thought he
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: played his freshman with Knowles. But I may be mistaken.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: You see, Kendall Daniels, he was a red shirt freshman
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: with Derek Mason, so he was a true freshman in
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: twenty one with Jim Knowles. So yes, he was underneath No.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I was right. Knows, Derek Mason, two years,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Nardo and now Brent Ventable. So going through multiple going
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: through that many DC's, it's tough, different types, different styles.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Even though I think Knows is probably closer to BV
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: so he's probably feeling a lot more comfortable like his
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: freshman year in comparison, Hens whil Oklahoma, you know, made
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the attempt for Knowles, but man, he his grasp and
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: his ability to do it. He's still got things to
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: work on, but overall I feel like he's he's taking
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: ownership of the defense.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: This was my thing with it right there obviously was
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: to play with with Justice Haynes. I feel like they
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: that may have been a misblocking assignment because that's why
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: he was so upset. Yep, Kendal Daniel's capitalizing on that.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Certainly not going to fault him, but I'm not even
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: sure those are the players that like speak to his ability.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: There is a play where he's roughly twelve yards of depth,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: nearly playing safety, and Michigan throws out in the flat
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: and he covers like twelve or fourteen yards with what
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: felt like two or three dribbles. I mean, you know
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: how you watch like a point guard go from nearly
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: half court to the rack and.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Likes dribbles of the basketball. That's that's what it felt like.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, are you serious?
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: And then Jay the other play that he made that
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: I had to turn to someone sitting next to me
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: and be like, he's not supposed to do this. He
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: had a play in coverage I want to say, a
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: tight end is over the top of him on the
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: right side of the field, and Bryce under what I
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: want to say, is rolling out and throws the ball
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: and he turns his back to the ball and goes
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: and covers that ground to go meet that tight end.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: And I want to say the play ends up being incomplete,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: but I just remember him in coverage turning his back
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: to the ball and running and getting it in space,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, guys, he's six five, two forty.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: He's not supposed to do that. This should laws against that.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Physically, that's not supposed to happen what he's doing on
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: the field right now, and he kept doing it. Freak
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: of nature, man. And he plays with an intensity and edge,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: a level of physicality, and just the fact that he's
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: able to harness that in every layer of his game.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: We've talked about him man like, he's the perfect fit
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: for the cheata position in Brent's defense and he's making
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: them markedly better now. The other layer to this with
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Kendall Daniels that I then want to kick it to
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: you on. Yeah, Kendall is obviously part part linebacker, right
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: but he's part safety, part nickel defender, whatever you want
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: to call it. So I thought was really cool. I
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: always like to catch in some of these games whenever
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma's defensive unit rolls out different, different package looks in
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: this game, specifically, they went to a dime package where
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: there was only one true inside linebacker on the field,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: and it was if you'll remember you were talking about
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: it on this show, there was like Peyton Bowen, RSJ,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Reggie Powers, Kennel Daniels, the corners, like they had all
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: of their their freak shows out there and they had
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: one true inside linebacker in dime package. If you would
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: have told me two months ago that in a dime look,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: with all those freak shows on the field, the only
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: inside linebacker on the field with them would be Owen Heineke,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: I'd to laugh you out of the room.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Do you know Kip Lewis plays football at Oklahoma?
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: You know, and we've seen Kip.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. It is crazy was doing. He was slipping blocks,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: making plays in the backfield. He's he's playing right now
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: well above what he should be in reality. And if
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: he is going to play like that every game, I
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: certainly do not have that expectation for him. That feels unfair.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: But if he's gonna be that caliber of linebacker in
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: a game where I thought in that specific game, Kip
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Lewis and Kobe McKenzie played well as well. I thought
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Sammy had his moments too. He did, but Owen Heineke,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: I like, it's not just what he's doing, the level
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: of trust that they have. He should not be the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: only inside linebacker in die package with all those guys,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: and he is. And it's like he bawled out, arguably
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: had the game of his life. And now I think
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: we're getting ready to see him play a much larger
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: role than we anticipated for the remainder of the two
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: twenty five seasons.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: As you say that, it's funny because I had talked
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: about this on postgame on the Live that the one
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: thing that and this is a shout out to Brin Vnables.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: One big appreciation I've had it to Brin Vinnables, and
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like really jumps out about his defenses has
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: been this in critical moments, including in this game fourth
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: quarter twenty one to thirteen. There's moments where late in
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: the fourth you'll see Sammy and moiseigo a on Heineke
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: out there linebacker. Yeah, you saw that last year in
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: the Bama game where you would see Sammy with Kobe McKenzie.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: It's like, wait, where's Stutsman, where's Kip why aren't we
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: putting our two best guys in this third down? That
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: is probably a short yardage play that's critical we need
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: no BV has instilled a trust with these players that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: he is willing to put them out there in those
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: circumstances to where they will get that experience and be like,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: I know what to do in this moment. And that
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: is a level of preparation. I have to applause because
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: I was watching. I'm looking, I'm like, I'm hitting Coop.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, cool, Coop, Coop Ohen and Sammy's out there.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: That's third down? That's crazy. Wouldn't you want to get that?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Is?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: And I noticed it last year and seeing it again
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: this year, I'm like, oh man, we're doing it. We're
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: doing it right.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: That's another takeaway that I don't think people can overlook.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I need to emphasize this. If you go back and
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: watch that Michigan game and you put this in as
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: your lens, you come away from that game thinking the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: depth on that defense is genuinely stupid, Like what are
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: you talking about? That they can basically go several players deep,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: one caliber guys and play to that level just like
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: you're talking about It's like the second defensive drive for
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma and Sammy and Owen are in at linebacker and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: I turned to someone and was like, what's going on
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: right now?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: The first drive? Bobe McKenzie like blew somebody up, Kip
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: was flying around. Those linebackers were playing well together that tandem,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: and then they put Sammy and Owen in there right away,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, this feels a little interesting, to be nice,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: and then it was like the yow and Heinike show.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: I got a call from someone, You'll enjoy this. I
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: got a call from somebody who I love to talk
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: ball with. This guy watches a ton of tape across
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: the country, and he told me he was like, hey, man,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: I would love to see Samuel. We'll see who get
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: more snaps at Oklahoma because that kid's got ability.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: They have a ridiculous amount of depth on that side
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: of the ball. They all play like starting caliber players.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: There's obviously variants there. Don't get me twisted, but it's like,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: that's not that's not supposed to be a thing. Yeah,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: and it it very much is, and it very much
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: impacts the game plan of the opposing team. I mean,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: this was one of my takeaways. For me. It's like,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: I thought Michigan's play calling in that game was kind
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: of awful. I was like, what are they doing in
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: some moments? But why I say that?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Jay?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: I thought a lot of their in game approach had
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: a lot to do with that front seven in Oklahoma.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Like I thought Michigan in that game tried to run
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: in between the tackles a couple of times, and they
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: quickly were like, oh, they're four deep at defensive tackle
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: and defensive end and linebacker. We can't run or throw
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: over the middle against these guys. But we're also terrified
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: of our freshman quarterbacks sitting back in the pocket and
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: getting attacked by these dudes? Do we throw in the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: flat on third and nine?
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I guess, but what are you like
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: try to win the game, right, There's not gonna win
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: the game strategy, right, But they I think that this
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma defense legitimately like made Michigan rethink the approach there.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: A defensive line was awesome. We talked about the corners
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: say yeah, he's like the list goes on and.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: On, but looking at this snaps is what jumped out
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: like so Owen had twenty three snaps, Sammy had sixteen,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: and of course kipn Kobe at thirty six. Right that,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: of course they had the Lion's chair with Peyton Bowen.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Peyton Bowen thirty nine snaps with Corton.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Get two dudes that didn't come off the field.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: He's back to back weeks of good play.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's he's taking that Billy Bowman role seriously.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Like he's taking it seriously. I'm gonna be the leader
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: of the secondary, even though Robert Spears Jennings is supposed
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: to be that dude too.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like he's taking it seriously.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: He's got growth.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: I mean him and him and RSJ kind of got
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: caught up in some stuff on that Michigan run for
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: a touchdown. But by the way, Jay, like that's the
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: only touchdown allowed by Oklahoma's defense in this season one.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: And I thought Michigan was gonna because Michigan, like you said,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: their offensive strategy was weird, but I got it. You
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: lose Klimb, that big tight end messed up ankle you
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: And it felt like to me as they were starting
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: the game, they were trying to make the decision of
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: all right, let's see what this defense is. If the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: defense isn't as as strong or as explosive, we're gonna
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: go ahead and throw. We're gonna put Cline in the game.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: We'll let him play. We're gonna take our time. But
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: when they got that first drive, they're like, oh, no,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: send more lineman out. We need to get get Bryce
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: more protection instead of trying to like we need more
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: linemen to run the run. We can't just run the ball.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: We have to have more linemen to do it. It's yeah,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: we forced them to change every single thing that they
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: want to do in this game. And I don't blame
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Chip Lindsay. You have a true freshman. You want to
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: be careful in that game because he could have turned
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: the ball over a lot more. Yeah, in the lot
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: of circumstances.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Someone told me that the last time a Chip Lindsay
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: offense faced Brent Venables, Lindsay's offense gave up eleven sacks.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, I haven't verified that set personally pertly. Really wow,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: If that's true, then I can't blame that one bit
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: for what took place on Saturday night. And I thought
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: it spoke volumes that on the first drive, Michigan's running
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: sets of seven to eight offensive linemen on the field
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: at one time because they wanted to establish the run
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: that quickly in a hurry. They knew the value of that,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: and yet there were moments where they would run in
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: to the teeth of the defense. Something I've noticed as
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: a trend over the first two weeks of the season,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Jay is every time I checked the run stuffed stat
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: on stat Broadcast, which isn't a perfect stat. No, does
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: STAT Broadcast usually do a decent job of getting you
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: a metric of like here's how many run attempts were
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: given in two yards to go or less for the
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: first down or the touchdown, and here's how many of
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: them converted or stopped. I think Ocoma's defense is pretty
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: much like bat in a thousand in those situations, which
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: is crazy, but like.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: That is so. The quarterback in that game was Jared
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Steadham at Auburn. Austin Bryant for Clemson had four sacks
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: see four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten eleven sacks dog. Wow,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: So I think about it right now, I think about it.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins sack and a half Dorian O'Daniel sack and
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: a half Austin. Brian had four sacks in that game, dude.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: And it's the funny part. The score was fourteen to six. Okay,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: and Clipson turned the ball over twice. Hey man, Gus
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: smile Zone couldn't do it. I can't blame you. I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: can't blame it.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: No, he knew what was coming. And the funny thing
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: is BV probably did too. He looked, he's like got
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Jared said he can't run like Bryce. But I bet
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: you they're not gonna try to run Bryce much. Yeah,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: let's put him to work. Let's treat them like we
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: did Jared. And yeah, they probably say, nah, we got
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: to blocking make sure he has good protection. Wow, Dowd,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that that is stat of the night. Yeah.
• 1:10:12
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• 1:10:17
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• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Uh c K, all right, we got this Temple game,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask you about this because, as
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: we know, little Shade has been tossed. Temple put out
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, a little picture thing
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: out there, a little flyer to and they got a
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: tornado in the background, you know for Oklahoma. So it
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: you know, even though it's kind of weird that they
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: did that to us, it's okay. But then they throw
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Baker's mugshot right next to the pickup truck a little bit,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: you know, a little shade. You're throwing a little shade
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: out there. Get it. The hot mic situation happen bed
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: where the media members were heard asking basically a question
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: everybody else is asking, are they gonna even have fans there?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: I mean I get it, I get why. You know,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: they felt that was disrespectful, and you know, Case Keller
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: felt the need to make his comments. He went on
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: the Oklahoma Breakdown recently and talked about this game and
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: how he wants his players to feel like they need
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: to feel be unrealistic about this because.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: That wasn't me. Coach.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Just just know that it was not Colin. He was
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: not there.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: So we will sue anybody to my house.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Do not send anybody to his house. But I ask
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: you this one first two games, ninety seven points. They
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: did what you're supposed to do against opponents. You win
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: the game forty two something, you win the next one
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: fifty five or something. But the big thing is you
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: you handle business like you're supposed to. Can Casey can
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Casey Killer come out here and give us another Kurt
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Signetti type of thing him? It's older coach, Yeah, but
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: he's in his sixties. I think he's sixty six to
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: be exact, just turned sixty sixth in July. Older coach
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: comes into Temple and they look like a different team.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Are we seeing a situation where he could pull that
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: off throughout the year?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: I I struggle to see a world where Temple goes
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: on a run equal of that of Indiana's, where you
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: go on a Cinderella story venture to the playoff. Obviously,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: I think what you're really asking is like, can Temple
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: become a team that, let's put it this way, can
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: temp will become a resume booster for Oklahoma? Could it
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: be that kind of year for them? Or is this
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: another cakewalk game?
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: So kind of like what was it Arkansas State and
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Tulane and I think it was at twenty three both
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: of them were eight eight win and a ten win
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: team that you know made way, so they kind of
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: became as im a booster but yes, that is kind
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: of my point. I think.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: For me, I'm familiar with Casey Keeler. I don't know
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: him or anything like that. Don't want to get it twisted,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: but it's like, I live in Texas. What he did
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: at sam Houston State is very well known down here.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: He helped them transition into the FBS. They had multiple
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: high level winning seasons under him. He accomplished some really
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: big things there at SAM and him taking the Temple job.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: When I saw that, especially living down here and knowing
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: what he accomplished at a place like sam Houston State,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: my first thought was like, that's a weird job for
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: him to take. But then my second thought was like,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: that's kind of a kill or higher for Temple.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: And you mentioned it. They're doing what they're supposed to do.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Are they playing the best of competition?
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Are they in a level of point differential that's pretty outstanding?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Is their quarterback rolling right now a little bit?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, they're in a position to where they
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: can now buy into the idea they can go out
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: and compete at a level not seen at Temple before.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: And I subscribe to that theory as well. I think
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: for me going into this game, this Temple team is
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: very different because of coach Keeler, and not just the
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: new approach and schematics that that place is running the players,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: but also the mentality and the competitiveness. Totally different team
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: than Oklahoma saw last year in the fifty one to
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: three beat down. Totally different group. I think if you're Oklahoma,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: what you have to be excited about is this is
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: setting up for a very competitive environment in a game
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: where it probably shouldn't be, and you welcome that because
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: now you're forcing your players to go into this game
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: taking it as seriously as the coaching staff probably is,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And Yep, there's gonna be
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: a level of intensity on that field that you love
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: in a setting like this, I think it allows you
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: to get the most out of its players. And don't
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: get me wrong, like this game does have closer than
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: it should be ability right right, But at the same time,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: I think kind of what you're talking about, some of
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: the stuff that has gone on throughout the week that
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't have on the Bengo card has suddenly made
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: this game far more intriguing than it was seen as.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: Even a couple of weeks ago. I think you welcome that.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: If you're Oklahoma, I think you'll lean into that. If
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: you're ow you and if this becomes an intense battle
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: out in Philadelphia on Saturday morning, then so what yah,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: so be it, you'll love that if you're Oklahoma.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, BB's kind of got them boys already in
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: the circle in the mindset of this is their road dogs, right,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: He's already put that in there. You heard David Stone
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: say that postgame post practice. You know their road dogs
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: and you know they're gonna they they got to challenge
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: ahead of them. Blah blah blah. He's already instilled that
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: in them. Basically, they already have the mindset of this
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: game is gonna be a challenge. Good to hear. I'm
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: glad that that's that is the mindset that all of
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: them are taking. So I can't truly, quote unquote complain
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: about that. And I asked that question because when I
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: looked at their schedule, they've got two back to backs.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: They got US and then Georgia Tech, and then from
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: there is Utsa who does not look good, Navy who
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: does not look good, Charlotte who does not look good, Tulsa,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: who don't look good. He see you who ain't looking good? Army,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: We'll see with that Tulane they're good. Then North of Tech,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: who has been possibly point being they could have cause,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: well North Texas's got two wins this year, so they
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: could walk in there and uh finished with like eight
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: ten wins.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't want to get too far out of this.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not too froggy on it, but it feels like, yeah,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Casey's got them. They look coached. Well, let's put it
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: that way. That and like you said, what he did
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: at sam Houston, everyone knows that looked at the portal.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: He brought some kids from about a couple from from
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: sam Houston, but they brought in twenty one transfers, and
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: it looks like, yeah, he he's got them playing well together.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: And Evan Simon was there last year and he looks
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: like a completely different quarterback, even though last year he
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: threw for like two thousand yards. He took over the
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: job from Brock after we kind of destroyed him the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: thing the second. I think it was kind of us
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: his broke his spirit. But Simon's thrown over two thousand
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: this past year. So I'm looking at this like, okay,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: should this game be close to no spread? Is what
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: twenty one and a half? It's been moved down from
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: twenty five. It's actually up again. It's oh really, it's
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: back to twenty three and a half. So it open
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: at twenty five and a half. I saw it a
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: twenty one a day or two ago, and now it's
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: back up.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: At twenty six and a half.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now it's.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Dropped so well, it dropped five and now it's back
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: up to twenty three. So I'm curious. I don't know
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: what this I don't know how this outcome is gonna
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: truly go. I don't know if we truly cover the spread.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: And it's not me saying that because I have doubts
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: about this team. I feel like they're they're gonna take
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: this game serious enough, but I don't feel like they're
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: gonna go out there and just destroy them. But then
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: after all that stuff happened yesterday, Uh, completely different story.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna try to go for fifty.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: The way that I see this game, I was talking
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: about it on our pod today. Basically, what I've been
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: saying is like, I'll be honest with you. I don't
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: have a great reach to this Temple team right now.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know that anybody does. New head coach, new approach,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: brand new mentality, several new players, not playing against great
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: competition like it all creates a murky picture, does But
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: you know that Temple's getting ready to play with a
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: chip on its shoulder, yep. You do, though, know that
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: now Oklahoma is anticipating that and also ready to play
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: with a level of intensity itself. And I think that's important.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: I could see this game being close early as everyone
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: gets settled in, Temple tries to throw a couple of hooks,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: maybe catch Oklahoma on its heels a little bit in
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: the first half. But in my opinion, especially now that
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: we know Oklahoma's coordinators and players are all accounting for
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: Temple as a team and as a mentality, m h,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like, oh, you eventually will be able to
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: separate as long as they back up what they're kind
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: of talking about and bring to the table. Yeah, and
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: keep in mind, separate now is twenty one and a half.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, so let's let's quickly talk about like keys,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: like how do they get there? Or what do you
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: want to see from them? Can I yeah, can give
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: you my number one? Okay, go ahead?
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, you go ahead, go ahead. I want you,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: I want yours.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: I'll start it off because I don't know if you
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: and Coop have already talked about this game. I haven't.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: It's been a crazy week. Obviously. My number one thing
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: going into this game if I'm Oklahoma, knowing the competitive
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: and intense atmosphere I'm getting ready to step into knowing
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: that Oklahoma's probably gonna want to if it can rest
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: a couple of guys who have been banged up early on.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: This screams an environment to me where anyone on that
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: roster that Oklahoma feels like at some point this season
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: is gonna have to play and played a ones caliber level.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: Get them in and make them play in this game, yep.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Because not only can you do that and still get
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: a win, this game will feel like a competitive environment
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: that will better them moving forward. And that's someone like
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: maybe a Ryan Fojay, a Logan Howland, a Pgaddibla who
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: I thought had some nice moments against Michigan. Maybe a
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: Danny Akoye. Get that guy in there, get him going.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Some of these other players. The number one guy for
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: me if Jaden Ott is healthy and ready to play.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: I think if you're Oklahoma going in this game, hey man,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: let's go. There's no better time to get going than
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: right now with the sec opener on the horizon. And
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: this is kind of what I was hinting at earlier.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: This whole thing is Oklahoma gonna have to run John
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: mattiern nineteen times to go win games? The answer that
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: should be known, the answer that should be just not yep,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: because you invested in him to be that answer, right,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: So when when is that answer going to be finalized?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, there's no better environment to get him
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: going than this weekend.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: This is the one.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: If you tell me he's still banged up. If you
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: tell me he's not ready yet, fine, I totally understand.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: But even if he's close to one hundred percent, the
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: guy I'm keeping my eye on this weekend specifically is
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: Jade not because if they can get him going in
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: this game, I think it'll be better for him, and
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: I think it'll be better for Oklahoma with Auburn on
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: the horizon.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: And no, you're you're spot on there. We me and
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Coop talked about it on Wednesday night. That was really
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: the consensus for both his offensive line and honestly J nine.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: Just like you said, run game needs to be established.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: If we're not establishing the run game on this team,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: we may have some long issues. Even though I feel
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: like this will be a slow ramp on the run,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: that at some point we're gonna get it, similar to
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: what we did eventually against Alabama, like as we're maintaining health,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: we're going to get there. But you're right, this is
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: the one because and I like the point that you made,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: because I think this is one that fans need to
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: get and understand and really sink sink into in their minds. Yes,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: we should cover this spread. That's a three touchdown spread.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: We should cover it. Temple's not gonna go down without
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: a fight, and they've shown it in the way they've
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: played this year. So yes, this should feel like a
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: very competitive game, which means just like you said, which
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: it's perfectly articulated, I want to see what you look
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: like in an intense game. Now is your time to
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: show me that you're ready. If you can't do this
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: against Temple, if you can't be in the right spots,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: understand the right cause, be prepared for changes, change your
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: direction based upon the circumstance of what the office is
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: providing you. When you see them adjust. If you can't adjust,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: you're not ready to play. When we do sec play,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: you can do it. If you do in this game
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: should be good because Kent State's not I'm sorry, King
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: State is not gonna be the game where you get
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: any of this, not only is it at home. Kin
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: State is awful this year. They're worse this year they
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: were before. Like it's worse than the last time we
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: played them. Because they don't have Sean Lewis's offense where
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: they can still go super hairy up and still get,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: you know, get a ton of yards. They don't have that.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: They're they're awful. Look I wouldn't look they're awful. Temple's not.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: Temple has as we mentioned before, they've taken care of
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: business against the opponents they were supposed to take care
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: of business again. So because this game is definitely gonna
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: be one of those where it's gonna be one of
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: those try hard games for them. They're gonna try hard
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: and if you don't give that back, yeah, you're right,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: that's an example of yeah, you're not ready to play yet.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: So I love that idea of specific players, like I
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: need to get some rushing yards. Do I judge this game?
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: I won't judge him as harshly as I would a
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Cain't state, because, like I said, Temple's defense will actually
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: give you some true effort. But he should be able
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: to find some scenes to be able to get at
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: least fifty yards plus. I'm thinking a three figure game
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: in this one, but I'll be okay with fifty if
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: they're like, all right, they really hit and bring in
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: another back. Let's get some other backs rotating and you know,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: get some stuff going. But no, h fair point, fair
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: point there with that, this is a game where certain
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: players we want to see.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: You just you just gotta get a glimpse of it
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: in a competitive environment, because the last thing that you
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: need is to have question marks about anyone you might
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: potentially have to rely on on the biggest stages letter
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: down the line. And if it really just means jay
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: Not in the first half gives you fifty yards rushing
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: or maybe makes a play out of the backfield and
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: he he gets the gears going and you walk away
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: from that game going all right, jay Not is he's
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: starting to be what he's supposed to be. That's win
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: if you get someone like a Ryan Fojay in the game,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: or a Logan Howland in the game, or one of
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: these offensive linemen where you're like, hey, this guy may
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: have to come in against Tennessee on the road. Let's
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: see what he does against the Temple team that wants
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: to go fight.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: If he handles himself, well, awesome, We're six seven, eight
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: deep now on the offensive line, and we feel good
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: about that same stuff with the defense.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Right, Like this Temple offense is rolling. They're gonna be
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: trying stuff and seeing if they can't muck this game up. Like,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: let's see if a Devin Jordan is really ready to
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: be that caliber of corner. Right. That's the biggest storyline
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: for me going into this weekend. I love the fact that,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: again it breeds a competitive environment for Oklahoma to capitalize on.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: But you gotta go do that, and I think some
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: of these question marks can be answered. Xavier Robinson, are
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: you healthy?
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Is the Hanmi good? You ready to go?
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: Hey, we're gonna see that down hill running game we
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: saw against Bama and Missoo last year because that is
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: a game changer. Hey, uh, if we can rest Tory Blaylock,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: and these guys in the backfield can pick up that
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: and actually get going four were four deep like we're
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: supposed to be right. I. I know it sounds crazy,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: but it's like, all right, what can what can will
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: Huggins give me in the passing game? Because we don't
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: want to run Cannick into the ground yet you threw
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: his way on the interception, Probably a good time to
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: throw him a couple of balls and just see what
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: he's got.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Right, he's got same thing we can't, same thing we can't.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: You saw a little bit very slight, but hey, right, we.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: Go down the list, go down the list of players
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: that you're like, this might be a good time to
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: get him in a heated game before the likes of
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: Alabama on the road is in front of this team.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: Get that player down the field in this game against Town. YEP,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: agree with you there that that that is the.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: Best way to look at this one, because again, it's
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: gonna be a competitive one. They're gonna fight, they're gonna push.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you want to see you want to see Huggins.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: You want to see some Kent, You want to see
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: some fogier, You want to see some Howland. Shoot you
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: you want to like I said, you want to be
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: for me on top of ot I need to see
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: the expansion of the wide receiver room. Yeah, give me.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: I need to see some Kearnie. If you plan on
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: red shirting him, this is game number two. Play him here,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: play him and then and then don't play him again
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: until later in the season. Give him the last two
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: games of the season if you If you have to,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: that way, you can preserve that. But this is a
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: good one to let us see if he's there yet.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Give me some Elijah Thomas. You saw him on specials,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: but you didn't see him in the actual offense. Give
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: me some of him on if he's out there and
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: he can make some ridiculous plays. Jermichael Carter, same thing.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: You haven't gotten much out of him yet. I didn't
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: expect you to get much out of him because he
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: came so late. But at the same time, or here's
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: one for you now I know this is this is
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: very much a shot in the dark as we prepare
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: to wrap up Geovanni Gibson. I've seen him in pads
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: two games in a row, four pads. He looks huge.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: I know you need to get him in game shape.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: But this isn't a bad game to go ahead and
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: give him opportunity to get some run if he is
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: closer to one hundred percent as you're saying he is.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you there, but I also am
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: not gonna blame them one bit for shelving him and
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: being like, oh yeah, man, like, let's just get you
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: in the Auburn game, Like, let's go beat Auburn if
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be your debut, like Ivan, carry.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: On, yeah, carry on, give me some. Carry on. I
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: will love it. I mean with Jovanni. To me, if
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: there's a game you need to play, it would probably
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: be Auburn or you play him Kent State in preparation
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: for Texas. That's how good of a talent Giovanni is.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: And we've heard nothing but greatness on him. So yeah,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: you do that, but yeah, carry on, give me some
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: give me some giant wide receiver action. Let's see what
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: that looks like. Can we get all the tall dudes
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: plant at the same time, Him and Huggins together a
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: the same time will be very fascinating. Now I'm thinking
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: about him, It's two big old receipts of gold dudes
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: right six six six seven, just like, can we point
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: being I really want to see what this wide receiver
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: depth looks like? We still even got other young dudes.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: You got Raging, you got kJ Daniels. I don't know
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: what's going on with them. They're both speechters. What are
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: we what are we doing with those guys? Like I
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: think the rotations at wide receiver and if and in
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: this game, I don't know if you the question has
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: been asked. I don't know if you play Michael Hawkins.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: BV mentioned something about him about the not burning his shirt.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like the goal is to red shirt him,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: which is smart. We get some three more years new Bauer,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: go ahead and throw a win out there. Let him
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  Speaker 1: sling around.
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  Speaker 2: I would, Yeah, makes sense, I would. I mean, in
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, the Witt Newbauer games were always going to
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  Speaker 2: be Temple Kent State.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get John my Tier first half. Let him
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: throw up a whole bunch of stupid numbers and he
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  Speaker 1: can give it. You bring in Wit.
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  Speaker 2: Because you hear good stuff about Wit in fall camp,
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  Speaker 2: and you know they brought him in to help Michael
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  Speaker 2: Hawkins preserve his red shirt. I mean they even also
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: brought in Gavin Frakes before he left Ye, which was
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: a weird sequence, but it's like that Oklahoma shows you
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  Speaker 2: they really want to preserve Michael Hawkins red shirt. And
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: Wit Neubauer was a guy that, as a young guy,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: helped lead Mercer to the ses playoff.
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  Speaker 1: So, no, he can throw it. I watched him in
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  Speaker 1: that Alabama game. He looked good. He can. You just
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: could tell that they didn't have the horses.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I I think Wit. I think Witt would be
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  Speaker 2: a guy that, for me, would would come into this
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: game and actually play decently well if you're in a
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: position to let him do so. But that would also
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  Speaker 2: allow you, in my opinion, which is a wrinkle to
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: this season, to stash a Michael Hawkins run game package
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: for later an SEC play if you want to have
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: that as part of your repertoire, because it's also important
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: to remind folks out there, you know, the Bowl game
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: or whatever else like that doesn't count. It's the four
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: games in the regular season. So if you're gonna make
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: that a layer to this offense, don't want to play
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: Michael Hawkins in this one.
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  Speaker 1: You got two row games perfect once you got Tennessee
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: and Alabama back to back. Then you've got Missouri the
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: LSU probably where you want to put them in those
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: four games, you probably play Michael Hawkins. You throw them
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: out there. That would be a pain in their tail
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: if you really think about it.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Granted Auburn probably is still terrified of them, you just
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: can't use them in a game. Unfortunately. No score prediction
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: for this game. What's your score prediction for this Temple game?
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: I have no idea. Everything we just talked about sets
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: it up to where I have no clue. I said
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: forty two to seven on our pod, and I hated
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: it because my whole thing was like, basically, what I'm
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: trying to say is, again, I hated that score prediction,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: so I'm gonna change it here on this show to
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: make myself feel better. What I'm trying to say is,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the final score is gonna be,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: but I have Oklahoma covering the twenty one and twenty
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  Speaker 2: three and a half point spread. So give me like
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: thirty eight to ten, thirty five to ten. I feel
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: like maybe it's a little bit of a dogfight early,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: but again, this Oklahoma team should from a talent and
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: mentality perspective be able to eventually separate a little bit.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: So hopefully, I know I'm not doing a very good
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: job like with the actual score prediction of vocalizing my thoughts.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: I have Oklahoma winning and covering this weekend.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: That's what's most important. Weatherwise, it'd be seventy five degrees
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: partially cloud so it'd be nice up there this weekend,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: So if those that are going to Philadelphia please enjoy. Unfortunately,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: the Eagles are not playing on Sunday. They're playing the Chiefs,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: in which you know, we kind of joked about this
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: some sorry Temple people, but they play the Eagles. The
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: Eagles play the Chiefs on Sunday, so they probably won't
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: be talking about this game, so you'll be okay with it.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: I'm in the boat with you. After all the stuff
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: that's transpired and some of the some of the venom going,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma tries to hang half a houndie on them.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: I think they go up to fifty in this game.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: I think it goes back to last year's score fifty
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: ish to three. I think their goal is no touchdowns,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: in which I think Simon's good enough to do it.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: But I think they try to go for fifty in
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: this one. Again. We ain't gonna turnover so far this year, really,
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  Speaker 1: so this may be the game where they finally figure
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: out how to start ripping the ball away. So all right,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: we'll go with that. Go with the fifty to three,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: not fifty one. So I don't know if we get
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: a safety, but I'll go fifty to three. But Colin,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: thank you once again. Ck go check them out two
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: four seven sooners illustrated. It's always got the recruiting report yesterday,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: well on Thursday Chef's kiss. Go watch that we had.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff to break down from that game. Man,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming talking bout with me again.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: Always the C and Jay Show, there seems to be
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: momentum behind it. There seems to be buying, which I
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: doubted because I have no business being on a show
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: like this with a star of this calib.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: Lies on the internet. Dog dog no, please come on now.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: We know that you are the star in the recruiting trail.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: But the good thing is you are ambidextrious. You can
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: talk recruiting and ball. Not too many people can do that.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: I like football. I like football a lot, and I
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: watch them he's a junkie.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is a junkie. So all right, well, well
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: we'll uh well we'll have you back again. Auburn's coming up,
• 1:36:02
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