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- 0:00What's up everybody, We are live Charlie Marlow here on the
- 0:04Charlie Marlow YouTube channel and Kenny Wallace.
- 0:06Media talkin all. Things.
- 0:08Sports. We'll talk a little World Series
- 0:11college. Football as always, and I.
- 0:13Usually start. With college football and focus.
- 0:16Mostly. On college football.
- 0:18But today? On this Friday.
- 0:21October 24th year of our Lord. 2025, we got to start with the
- 0:27NBA, and I'm not going to lie to you.
- 0:30I never pay. Any attention to the NBA as a
- 0:33kid? I did all the time.
- 0:36Love the Pistons growing up? I grew up in Toledo, an hour
- 0:40from Detroit, when I was real little.
- 0:42We're. Talking 6/7.
- 0:45Eight. You had the bad boys, Bill.
- 0:48Lambier, Rick. Mahorn, Isaiah.
- 0:51Thomas I. Love that 2000. 4 Pistons team.
- 0:55And we're going to get to that. Because Chauncey Bill UPS a
- 0:59great player on that team. Is obviously a huge.
- 1:02Part of this NBA betting scandal.
- 1:06Which we're going to talk about. All right, I.
- 1:09Haven't read every. Single thing about this scandal,
- 1:13I've read some articles, I've read some of the court documents
- 1:18and all I can say. Is how stupid?
- 1:23Are these NBA players? How dumb can you be?
- 1:28Do you really think that you're going to get away with this?
- 1:32I understand sometimes too, you're compromised.
- 1:35You're probably in a bad spot betting yourselves.
- 1:38You got in with the wrong. People whether it was these
- 1:41poker. Games the mob.
- 1:44Whatever it is. A lot of these guys in
- 1:46situations like this have their own gambling issues.
- 1:51They don't really want to gamble on their own sport, they like
- 1:54gambling on other. Sports.
- 1:55Maybe they play blackjack, poker, whatever it.
- 1:58Is but then. As a last resort.
- 2:01Because they're down bad with somebody bad.
- 2:04All of a sudden you got to start fixing putting your work.
- 2:10In on these games and all I'm saying again is how dumb.
- 2:15Are you think about the Terry Rozier stuff?
- 2:19Terry Rozier? Scary Terry, right?
- 2:22You really think? You're not going to get caught
- 2:26when all. Of a sudden there's 10s of.
- 2:29Thousands, if not hundreds. Of thousands of dollars.
- 2:33Being placed on. Terry Rozier, Unders.
- 2:37Not Giannis. Not.
- 2:39Djokic, not a * Terry Rozier You don't think you're going to get
- 2:46caught? We talked about this.
- 2:48With Jonte Porter. You don't think it's the biggest
- 2:51red flag in the history of red? Flags when all.
- 2:55Of a sudden, there's. 10s of thousands, hundreds of thousands
- 2:59of. Dollars.
- 3:00Being placed on Jonte. Porter Unders Terry Rozier
- 3:05Unders Most people don't even know who Jonte Porter is.
- 3:08They know his. Brother Michael Porter, junior.
- 3:11We know Jonte here in the Saint. Louis Area, Missouri area
- 3:15because he played for Mizzou and those brothers grew up in
- 3:19Missouri. But Terry Rozier, you really
- 3:23thought you were going to get away with this.
- 3:25You don't think you don't think Vegas or the sports books?
- 3:28Would be clued in on this when all of a sudden they go.
- 3:31Oh hey, look, here's our normal. Handle on.
- 3:35Terry Rozier over unders. And it's X amount, whatever it
- 3:39is, I don't even know. I don't even know why you would
- 3:41ever bet on Terry Rozier. Why would you ever bet on Terry
- 3:44Rozier unders or overs unless. You had inside information.
- 3:50Why would one do that unless you're a a family member?
- 3:53But whatever the normal handle is on Terry Rozier, you don't
- 3:56think it's just the red? Flag of the century, when all of
- 3:58a sudden it's. Hundred 500. 1000 X probably
- 4:0410,000 X. All of a.
- 4:06Sudden, how much money is being bet on Terry?
- 4:08Rozier. And it's not just him.
- 4:11Whatever's going on with with Chauncey Billups and also.
- 4:15These illegal poker. Games.
- 4:17That's a. Different story.
- 4:18And I love poker, and that's shady, shady, shady, shady.
- 4:22You're screwing people out of their money.
- 4:24You're cheating them in poker. We're not going to talk a ton
- 4:28about that. But that's awful as well.
- 4:31But this stuff with the NBA, Chauncey, my guy.
- 4:34Chauncey. And that's why this one.
- 4:37Hits a little. Bit close to home because again,
- 4:40that 2. 1004. Pistons team My favorite NBA
- 4:44team of all time. It was 2004, I had just
- 4:50graduated college. At Bradley University.
- 4:54So the playoffs would have started right right at.
- 4:57The end of my senior year, but then I go back home to Toledo.
- 5:00I didn't get a job until September.
- 5:04Of 2004 so that. Summer.
- 5:07Was a lot of. Watching the Pistons.
- 5:09March through the playoffs by. The way the Pistons should have
- 5:12won the championship the following year, they should have
- 5:15went back-to-back in 2005 if. Rasheed Wallace closes.
- 5:19Out Robert Ori in Game 6 I believe.
- 5:22Don't quote me on that. I have learned that my memory is
- 5:26not as great as I. Thought it was.
- 5:28But Pistons should have went back-to-back.
- 5:31Oh, by the way, they also drafted Darko, where if you
- 5:34drafted anybody. Else in that.
- 5:36Draft after. LeBron so you could have.
- 5:38Had what? D Wade, Chris Bosh.
- 5:43Right, you win. Maybe you win 3 championships.
- 5:47Imagine if you have D Wade on that team and then somebody's
- 5:50coming off the bench. Whoever it is, RIP Hamilton, I
- 5:53don't know. That's not the point.
- 5:55But I loved. Chauncey, Bill.
- 5:57UPS. He was my favorite.
- 5:58My second favorite player on that team.
- 6:00Ben Wallace was my favorite. Chauncey was my second favorite
- 6:04and I also got the chance to. Cover those guys.
- 6:06So I interviewed those guys. A.
- 6:08Decent amount. This would have been 2000, 2006,
- 6:15and 2007. Got to cover a decent amount of
- 6:18Piston playoff games. This was.
- 6:20After obviously they. Win it all in O4.
- 6:23Their runner up in O5. This was O six O 7.
- 6:26I remember they played the Bucks I.
- 6:28Believe in the first round. One of those years I covered
- 6:31some of those. LeBron matchups.
- 6:34It was it was O 7 when LeBron finally took the mantle from the
- 6:40Pistons. Remember the Pistons, they went
- 6:42to the Eastern Conference finals a million times in a row and
- 6:45then LeBron finally won that O 7.
- 6:48I believe where LeBron scored, he scored like 25 straight.
- 6:51Points for his. Team don't quote me on that but
- 6:54I believe that's the number anyway.
- 6:56So I interviewed Chauncey a decent amount.
- 6:58Great dude, great dude. Back then, I can't speak for
- 7:02anything. I can't speak for anything in in
- 7:05more recent years, I didn't even know.
- 7:07Honestly, I didn't even know he was a coach.
- 7:08I. Didn't even know he was the head
- 7:10coach of the Portland Trail Blazers.
- 7:11I didn't even know that. That's how little I pay
- 7:13attention to the NBA. But this story?
- 7:16Got me nostalgic. So I.
- 7:18Actually, last night I started thinking about Chauncey and Big
- 7:21Ben. I started.
- 7:22Watching intros, remember. Mason Mason, who changed the
- 7:27game when it. Came to intros.
- 7:30And he would. Say.
- 7:33The piston 1. Red, blue and white Tonight I'm
- 7:39paraphrasing 6. Foot 3 Chauncey butt butt butt
- 7:43butt Billups. Love that love.
- 7:45Mason those, those intros, I watched them last night.
- 7:49I got nostalgic. I watched those intros, they're
- 7:52freaking awesome. Freaking awesome man Mason.
- 7:57They had the pyro I remember. Being at those games, those
- 7:59playoff games, and I'd be sitting not.
- 8:02Courtside, but pretty. Damn close they'd.
- 8:04Let the media sit pretty close. Couple rows.
- 8:06Back sometimes close there on the table and that.
- 8:10Pyro would go off and you could feel it.
- 8:12You could feel the heat when they would have the pyro go off
- 8:15right there. I think it was behind the the
- 8:17baskets anyway. Chauncey, come on dude, you're
- 8:21smarter than this. You really thought?
- 8:23You wouldn't get caught with all this with the poker games.
- 8:25Terry Rozier, you really? Didn't think DraftKings and
- 8:29FanDuel and all these that it wasn't going to be.
- 8:31The the biggest? Red flag of the century.
- 8:34Come on, man. You guys are smarter than that,
- 8:37I thought. Apparently you're not.
- 8:39We'll see what happens. All right, moving on to college
- 8:42football. College football.
- 8:45It's a Friday. We're already looking.
- 8:46Forward to tomorrow. But I was very busy this week.
- 8:50We were at the lake. Until Wednesday, so I didn't do
- 8:53a lot of videos, didn't do any. Videos for this.
- 8:56Channel a lot of NASCAR stuff, but anyway I like to jump on
- 9:00kind of the. Debates.
- 9:00Everybody else is talking. About because I'm lazy.
- 9:05But this whole. Idea of if any teams are
- 9:07actually elite this year in college football.
- 9:10I think people like to. Say that especially when their
- 9:12favorite team loses. So Oregon lost.
- 9:15Couple weeks ago Miami loses. Is anybody elite?
- 9:19First of all. I don't know the answer to that.
- 9:22Second of all, and I know I'm an Ohio State fan, but I think at
- 9:26this point. You have to at least.
- 9:29Give Ohio State the benefit of the doubt at 7 and O consensus
- 9:35#1 defending national champs even though they.
- 9:40Lost a lot, lost a lot, lost their their coordinators I
- 9:46think. You need to give them the
- 9:47benefit of the doubt right now to say maybe Ohio.
- 9:50State is elite. And look, Indiana, do I think
- 9:55Indiana's better than Ohio State?
- 9:56I don't. Would it shock me if Indiana
- 10:00beat Ohio State? No.
- 10:02Would it surprise me? Wait, Would it shock me?
- 10:08Would it shock me? No.
- 10:11Would it surprise me? Would it shock me?
- 10:16Would it shock me? See, now I I can't even think
- 10:19about what I want to say. Would I be shocked?
- 10:22If Ohio State lost to Indiana, I wouldn't be.
- 10:25Shocked. Would I be surprised?
- 10:28I think I'd be a bit surprised, yeah.
- 10:31I mean, if they play 10 times, could Indiana beat Ohio State
- 10:35one or two times? Probably.
- 10:37I don't think they're better. But anyway, I was confusing
- 10:40myself there. My point is.
- 10:42Ohio State could be elite. Could Indiana be elite?
- 10:44I doubt it, but we'll see. Could Texas A&M be elite?
- 10:48Sure. And I think, I think.
- 10:51We shouldn't just. Focus on the the undefeated
- 10:55teams. Right, that's that's.
- 10:57Part of my point here? Nobody.
- 10:59Would have said the Buckeyes were elite last year.
- 11:02When they. Lost a very.
- 11:03Close game to Oregon. Oregon was very good, remember?
- 11:07And then you lose to a. Crappy Michigan team at home as
- 11:11about a 21 point. Favorite, whatever it is.
- 11:14That's a two loss team. Nobody.
- 11:16Would have, said Ohio State. Was elite until they got.
- 11:19To the College Football Playoff and rolled everybody.
- 11:22I'm talking rolled everybody, Tennessee, Oregon, Texas.
- 11:28Wasn't, wasn't, wasn't a blowout.
- 11:33I believe they covered. Every every game, Notre Dame, I
- 11:35think the final, final margin they covered was whatever it was
- 11:3910 points. I can't remember exactly but
- 11:41after. After the playoffs, you said
- 11:42yes, Ohio State, they are elite. So I'm not going to sit here as
- 11:47an Ohio State fan that watched A2 loss team that had a.
- 11:51Terrible loss. Against Michigan.
- 11:53Where the fan? Base was calling for Ryan Day to
- 11:56be fired, which I don't think was a crazy proposition at all.
- 12:00It's just like. Win a win a big game, dude, Just
- 12:02win a big game. That's all we're asking for.
- 12:04And he did. And now he wins every big game.
- 12:06So everybody. 'S happy.
- 12:08But my point is, look at the one loss teams.
- 12:11By the way, Georgia. Tech gets no respect.
- 12:14Georgia Tech is also undefeated BYU.
- 12:16Undefeated Georgia Tech is. Undefeated at 7 and O ranked 7th
- 12:21in the country. BYU undefeated 7, and O ranked
- 12:2411th in the country. But so Oregon.
- 12:27They couldn't have had a bad day against Indiana.
- 12:30Could Oregon come back and win the national championship?
- 12:32Could. Could Georgia?
- 12:34Six and one win the national championship?
- 12:37Sure could. Alabama, 6:00 and 1:00.
- 12:40They're on a. Roll now.
- 12:42After that, Florida. State.
- 12:43Loss Could Alabama win the national championship?
- 12:47Yes. My point is, we don't know.
- 12:49Who's elite? Until the end of the season,
- 12:53these teams now are going to be playing, what, 17 games?
- 12:5916 or 17 games. If you get to your conference.
- 13:04Championship game. So you're going to play 12 games
- 13:07in the regular season. You're going to play a
- 13:09conference championship game that.
- 13:10Gets you to. 13 depending on the buys.
- 13:15Let's just say you you. Have to play four games, that's
- 13:17potentially 17 games so. Let's say you.
- 13:22Don't get to the championship game.
- 13:24Let's say you play 3. Games you get a buy.
- 13:27Whatever it is. My point is.
- 13:29You're playing 15. 16 or 17 games, most likely around 16
- 13:34games if you're getting to the College Football Playoff
- 13:38championship game. Things change.
- 13:41Teams get better. There are injuries.
- 13:44Teams figure things out, teams get worse.
- 13:47So I would say I'm I don't even care.
- 13:51I don't even care about the argument.
- 13:53Ohio State might be elite. They might just roll.
- 13:55Through Texas. A&M might be elite.
- 13:58Indiana could. Surprise me again after beating
- 14:01Oregon and beat Ohio State. Who?
- 14:04The Frick knows. Maybe at the end of the?
- 14:06Of the year. The best team is going to be one
- 14:08of these one loss teams in Alabama.
- 14:11Or Georgia. I don't know, it doesn't really
- 14:14matter. And who cares?
- 14:16Because all that matters is who's.
- 14:19Elite in December and January. Who's?
- 14:23Elite in December. And January for a 3 or 4.
- 14:27Game span where you. Really have to.
- 14:29Earn it. And you have to play three or
- 14:32four games. Against the best teams in the
- 14:34country, Ohio State. Last year had to play what, four
- 14:38straight? Games against top ten teams
- 14:41Tennessee, Oregon, Texas, Notre Dame.
- 14:44They prove themselves. You can't.
- 14:47You can't look at any of these champs now these days and say
- 14:50it's BS. They're earning it now, back in
- 14:53the day. You could say.
- 14:55Is that team in the? BCS or you had different bowl
- 14:57games or whatever it is. Maybe this team should have made
- 14:59the final four and they were left out.
- 15:00They were 5. Maybe they could have won it.
- 15:03Nowadays you might not love the system, but.
- 15:05You got to earn it. You got to win 3 or 4.
- 15:07Games and whichever team is elite.
- 15:10Will prove it. At the end of January, is that
- 15:13game at the end of January right?
- 15:16I believe it doesn't go to February.
- 15:17I'm trying to do the math, trying to do the math January,
- 15:19Whatever, doesn't matter. OK.
- 15:22Couple other things. I was checking the Blues score.
- 15:25Last night again, I'm not locked into all these games.
- 15:28I will be locked in if the Blues make the.
- 15:29Play offs but I. Wascheckingespn.com and I saw
- 15:34Blues lost to the mammoth and I'm like the freaking mammoth.
- 15:37The mammoth. Did I miss that?
- 15:40The Utah Hockey. Club is now the Mammoth.
- 15:43I don't hate it, it's just odd. That's the first time I ever
- 15:46saw. It I guess.
- 15:47I heard that news and just forgot about it.
- 15:49The mammoth. Interesting name.
- 15:52I like different names. My kids are into dinosaurs and.
- 15:55Prehistoric creatures. Like a woolly mammoth.
- 15:58So I went to Mammoth cave as a kid.
- 16:01Mammoth Cave felt. Like they had those like.
- 16:03Stalactites and all that. I believe it's in Kentucky.
- 16:06Don't quote me on that. I remember going to that as a
- 16:08kid, think they had a campground also.
- 16:13We'll finish up. World Series.
- 16:15Go Toronto Blue Jays. Is that UN American?
- 16:20Is it UN American for me to want the Blue Jays to win?
- 16:24Over the Dodgers. I like seeing different teams
- 16:27win. The Blue Jays.
- 16:29Haven't won since back in the day when they went back-to-back.
- 16:33The Joe Carter. Days, Cito Gaston, Roberto
- 16:38Alamar. Remember those great teams,
- 16:41Devon? White.
- 16:43Who else? Who else?
- 16:46On those teams trying to think. Those were great teams.
- 16:52Great Blue Jays teams anyway. I can't remember, I don't have
- 16:55the the greatest memory, but I'm.
- 16:57Tired of the? Dodgers, I'm not going to cry
- 16:58about it. Are they ruining baseball?
- 17:01A little bit. Probably getting a little bit
- 17:03out of hand. I mean they did this for.
- 17:06A while other teams are doing it too.
- 17:08The Mets, Other teams are spending.
- 17:11The Dodgers are doing it better and smarter.
- 17:15You got show, hey. Deferring what, 68 million?
- 17:17Dollars per year. Insanity.
- 17:21They are the best team money can buy.
- 17:24I don't hate them. I'm kind of tired of them.
- 17:27I think baseball probably does need to do something about this.
- 17:31So if the. Dodgers win.
- 17:32Am I going to cry? No, but go Blue Jays.
- 17:36I like new teams winning and hey.
- 17:39Because freaking. Canada, our neighbors to the
- 17:42north, they can never win the Stanley Cup.
- 17:46That's all here in America, baby.
- 17:47So we might as well give them what?
- 17:49One World Series? They can have one World Series.
- 17:52How about that? Is that fair?
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- 21:31it all. World Series go blue.
- 21:34Jays didn't know the Mammoth was an NHL hockey team.
- 21:39Congrats on that, college football.
- 21:42Is anybody elite? Who knows, Maybe Ohio State,
- 21:45maybe Texas A&M. Maybe at the end of all this, a
- 21:48one loss Alabama. Or Georgia.
- 21:51Will end up being elite. Who cares?
- 21:53All that matters is who's standing at the end of the
- 21:56College Football Playoff. After three or 4.
- 21:59Really tough games and finally NBA.
- 22:03Players How? Freaking dumb are.
- 22:06You Terry Rozier. My guy Chauncey but.
- 22:09But but but Billups. I love Chauncey Billups.
- 22:13Did you really? Think Did you really think you'd
- 22:15get away? With this.
- 22:17You really think that it wouldn't be an enormous red flag
- 22:20when people are betting 10s if not hundreds of thousands of
- 22:24dollars on freaking? Terry Rozier, Unders.
- 22:27Come on, man. All right, peace out.
- 22:30Love you all. End stream.