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- 0:05All systems going clear? Who left? What's up? Everyone? Tyler Tambaline
- 0:38here aka TOTEG and Tambo back for another edition, Round three edition at the
- 0:43Cognizant here going through all things PGA Showdown, gonna be talking DraftKings. Was
- 0:48gonna go and wait a little bit longer, but got the news we needed.
- 0:51It just came out. They're gonna go back out first thing in the
- 0:53morning. For those that don't know the round was suspended, there's some guys
- 0:56still out there. We'll talk about that. We'll scroll through. Look who's
- 0:59down on the that we're waiting on. Jimmy Stanger, our guy, We've
- 1:02been talking about him all week. He's got an eight footer that he needs
- 1:04to make to make the cuts. Who will be sweating that. I'm sure
- 1:07many others in the community with the jokes of course of Jimmy Stanger getting steamed
- 1:11up to a cooler point four percent this week. But more to go through.
- 1:15We're gonna do it a little bit different today. I'll show you guys
- 1:18what I mean in a minute when I get there. But other news and
- 1:22the big news that we're waiting on, I just want to see how they
- 1:23were gonna go out in the morning, it is gonna be threesomes off of
- 1:26one. So once to get everything rolling again in the morning and they go
- 1:29out, they're gonna go out threesomes off of one. I'll look at the
- 1:30weather, I'll break all that down, We'll go through, gonna go through
- 1:34stats and show you guys some of that, and then flip it over to
- 1:38you know, look at the pricing as we go with what that looks like,
- 1:40versus pulling it up in the solver when we don't fully have who's in
- 1:44who's out. I'll go to there at the beginning and start with that.
- 1:47But let me know in the chat who crushed your dreams. I think I
- 1:49got a big idea of it, but I saw already so less than five
- 1:53percent. It looks like for six to six this week in most of the
- 1:56main tournaments, you know, other stuff. I saw just the waved advantage
- 2:00AMPM ended up having a decent advantage over a stroke, So I like PMM.
- 2:06I also liked stacking both sides. We talked about even on the chat.
- 2:08There was two real ways to look at it. If you went PMM,
- 2:12you were thinking if it did bake out or if it did get extra
- 2:14windy in the afternoon on top of the cut sweat on Sunday afternoons or sorry,
- 2:17on Friday afternoons. It could go in your favor, but if you
- 2:21wanted them in what we knew were gonna be the very best conditions. It
- 2:23was the am on day one. We took advantage of it and showdown our
- 2:27guy. I love Rory. I think he eventually got his money. It
- 2:29took them a while to pay it out after the delay, even of knowing
- 2:31it wasn't gonna end till this morning. But yeah, Berger, Sebez,
- 2:36Steven Yager, like just lots of guys and then my guy Greg Bud Caleyweek
- 2:40who knew a couple of people in the chat liked him over in the discord
- 2:44at ship a Nation, But people a Parker Coody, he's doing just as
- 2:46good. You kind of could have set him up boat shut at the razor
- 2:50sharp first in gonna get it loaded up here though, for you guys,
- 2:53just give me one second, see what we're at. Gonna start with a
- 2:55couple quick things, get them out of the way, and then we'll dive
- 2:58right into it like always by just see you guys. See there. One
- 3:00quick note We had a couple of people ask about this, just didn't have
- 3:05the time today to go through it. So we're gonna let it go for
- 3:07one more night on the giveaway, so tomorrow we'll announce it. It's a
- 3:10Saturday. Everybody's around or can get to their computer, X, Twitter,
- 3:15whatever you want to call it and see it there. But if you go
- 3:16over on x at Totag and Tambo, just scroll down and find the giveaway.
- 3:21All it is basically just a lot of the stuff in the chat that
- 3:23we see every single day coming into the ship and nation discord is around goals,
- 3:28mindset, bankroll management, contest select. I see a lot of people
- 3:30say, oh, another bad week for me. How many bad weeks did
- 3:34you have? Oh, it's a second in a row. I mean,
- 3:36this is just standard stuff for pgadfs. You gotta fight through it, hope
- 3:38for these weeks like Hoop and I and other members have been having throughout the
- 3:43season, the swing season all that, but you're gonna have bad weeks.
- 3:45But this really talks a lot, especially in this part, from the goals
- 3:47mindset right up to sort of the twenty max mme. Even if you just
- 3:52want to go in and check on this. If you're a member, you
- 3:54already get access to this. If you're not a member, you can get
- 3:57into the giveaway. We're actually gonna give away three monthly memberships to the site
- 4:00where you get this, the NBA course, the NFL one, plus all
- 4:04the coverage for the other sports. Somebody asked me that today, just everything
- 4:08else that's going on, what do you guys have. There's gonna be projections
- 4:12for all the sports that are running that we carry the eight major sports,
- 4:15but obviously NFL over college football not back yet. So NBA even with the
- 4:19no late swap tonight, we've got the projections, the ownership, there's showdown
- 4:24coverage, all the core reports and slate plans, but some cool tools as
- 4:27well with the ceiling rankings and the correlation sheet with injuries and things like that.
- 4:30We've got PGA right now full speed. The stone's still going. I'm
- 4:33going to show you guys that later because I think the way I do this
- 4:36show will make you want to see why it's good to have the stone.
- 4:41It's a way you can apply it and bring it across. And I'll show
- 4:43you guys more on that when we get there. But all the stuff for
- 4:46the main slate, MMA full swing right now. Just a ton of MMA
- 4:48stuff going on. UFC two ninety nine coming up soon. I know there's
- 4:51one this weekend already, but you UFC two nine nine I think is coming
- 4:55up soon as well, Big pay per view again. So just lots of
- 4:58MMA on the go there. I see other sites adding it. That's awesome.
- 5:00MMA is growing. But this is included with your membership at ship a
- 5:03Nation, NHL full fling right now, all in, and then MLB is
- 5:08coming back here. I believe it's the end of March, NASCAR again start
- 5:12we do Cup series, so to be clear on that one. But there's
- 5:15the stone. We have a stone, the core report, the slate,
- 5:16plant projections and ownership, so can check all that out. If you want
- 5:19to check out the education courses, they're over here. And then one last
- 5:23quick note, if you didn't get the giveaway tomorrow and it doesn't go your
- 5:27way, you can go to the site and just put in your email and
- 5:30sign up and get the Showdown mini course. So if you want Hoop and
- 5:32I talking about PGA Showdown, you could definitely go and do that also right
- 5:36now. If you go to the site PGA or main memberships doesn't matter for
- 5:40all access or not. You can get fifteen percent off any membership plan and
- 5:43it stays with you as long as you stay with it. So if you
- 5:46take this and use it on the thirty nine dollars monthly PGA membership drops it
- 5:50down, you will continue to get that renewal price. Same thing if you
- 5:54buy the annual renewed next year for that, I mean less than a dollar
- 5:57a day for that. And then the last thing before we hop into and
- 6:00I'll show you guys other stuff here is fifty eight dollars a month. If
- 6:03you're PGA only, you can upgrade, so just let me know if you
- 6:06guys need that. If you don't see it in your account on the site,
- 6:10you can go up to the very top under account see about upgrading annual
- 6:13though five oh nine I just mentioned it like other sites will get like MMA
- 6:16for example, or they have NASCAR only or whatever it might be. These
- 6:19are typically two hundred to five hundred type dollars that you're having to go and
- 6:24spend. This is five oh nine, but you're gonna get all eight of
- 6:27the major sports for the entire year. So if you want to use that,
- 6:30you guys can check it out. Go use code hoop fifteen. Let's
- 6:32hop into today. I'm gonna pull up a couple of things. I'm gonna
- 6:35start on the Data Golf website. I know a lot of people you know,
- 6:40wonder what site I'm using as I'm going through going through this stuff,
- 6:42how am I finding out the information and breaking it all down. Gonna do
- 6:45a bit of a emphasis on that today, just so you guys can see
- 6:47it. One thing I hate about certain optimizers and things that you do when
- 6:50you're working within them is if you don't have the cut yet for round three,
- 6:55which you don't. As you can see, you can sort this one
- 6:57here. It shows there's still guys out on sixteen seventeen eighteen. This is
- 7:00the holes they're through, So what they have left remaining? I mentioned my
- 7:03guy Stanger, he's got the par five eighteenth remaining. But if you go
- 7:08to your shot tracker you'll be able to see it's an eight foot and change
- 7:11putt that he has left. So this is a good spot to look at
- 7:14it. This is where I would start it at and then go from here
- 7:16to the stone, which I'll show you guys after something you can get over
- 7:19at ship at nation dot com. But just to check it out, let's
- 7:23go down to the bottom here for a second and see the cuts. Already
- 7:27locked in at two we know that, so all these guys are already locked
- 7:30in. I just talked about Stanger, and that's why it's important if he
- 7:32makes that eight footer gets him the two under and he makes the cut,
- 7:35pretty obvious stuff. I didn't go look up ud to see where he was
- 7:39at. But just another guy. This is the guy. These are the
- 7:42guys that hurt people, Bizeidenhout, McCarthy, Pendrith. What did by the
- 7:48way, what did Svenson end up doing here? I'm just gonna look it
- 7:51up quickly because I can spencon. Yeah, he was horrible. I thought
- 7:56like that could be a nice little pivot there if you went to the other
- 7:58Canadian for one hundred bucks more. And it still did not work out because
- 8:01Pendrith finished at one under Rasmus, one under who else? Yager? We
- 8:05already talked about him, bad Luke list just no good down the stretch.
- 8:09So he was a guy that hurt us. Who else? Anybody else?
- 8:15Don't see it. Some of these other guys won't get through anyway. I
- 8:18saw earlier. I think he already w d'd. Yeah, shut up.
- 8:20So Chandler Phillips was out there on his last hole as well, but he
- 8:24was already plus one, I believe, so there's no chance to make the
- 8:26cut for him, so he WDD. So not really much that I see
- 8:30that we're waiting on that you're going to be super excited about here, Like,
- 8:33you know, could you play one of these two guys tomorrow morning and
- 8:37just hope and see what it looks like and see how it goes. Yes,
- 8:39but I don't think it's gonna be any crazy leverage or anything like that
- 8:41based on that. Let me quickly check the weather just on my other monitor
- 8:45here, so we see it. But again mentioning it, that's the news.
- 8:48Why I wanted to wait for it is we are getting them going off
- 8:50in threesomes off of one. There's not split tea's or anything like that.
- 8:54It looks like what's on the screen here now sixty eight guys, if not
- 8:58a little bit more based on Stanger and Rio, but I think, uh,
- 9:03I think Rio's actually in the bunker on eighteen, so we'll see how
- 9:05he goes and gets out of there. But just to look at it again,
- 9:09who else do we have? Weather looks like seven to ten miles an
- 9:13hour throughout the day, a little bit more wind first thing in the morning.
- 9:18So the one interesting note will be obviously that these guys will play,
- 9:20so the best golfers so far will be playing later and it looks like the
- 9:24wind gus could die down a little bit, but there's also a little bit
- 9:26of precipitation in the morning, so like, I'm just not going with that
- 9:30today. I don't see it as much today. Even I think it was
- 9:33point five exact before we get to the final stuff, just to see Cole
- 9:37was still a disaster. Yeah, I mean, Cole was just exactly what
- 9:41we said yesterday on the show, like is super risk reward type play one,
- 9:46two, three, four or five birdies? This is where I'm counting
- 9:48them up. He left two of the power five's out there. He actually
- 9:52gained n approach even with some big losses on certain holes, and then the
- 9:56putter was there, so again it's all rel too. This is what I
- 10:00mean. People are ridiculous like the stuff they say and don't quite understand how
- 10:03showdown works. He was basically the exact same as Russell Henley Russell Henley had
- 10:09five birdies on the day, no streak, no eagle, nothing special to
- 10:11write home about. It was what was the delta, like twenty percent in
- 10:15the difference or something between the two of them. So again people don't understand
- 10:18showdown. They think it matters what happened in round one. It has absolutely
- 10:22nothing. What matters is what happened in round one so that we can make
- 10:24a decision going into round two. That's part of the process is knowing that
- 10:28it's you know, just because somebody has a great round like Max Greyersman and
- 10:31we know his story that he grew up there, he's played one hundred times
- 10:35all that. Let's see if he shoots five under or better tomorrow. I'm
- 10:37not even sure where he's at on the last holes of right now, and
- 10:39give it a try. But the day before it was just four birdies,
- 10:43nothing special, nothing serious. Go back to it. Here, gained it
- 10:48all around the green, gained it all putting. Oh, there's no way
- 10:50he can have a good round the next day. You can't play him in
- 10:52round two. He sucks. Oh wait, gains almost five strokes on approach,
- 10:56has a huge round and has even more he's even more a streak one,
- 11:01two, three, four, five, six, seven birdies. I
- 11:03don't even know where he is on the par five. So again, people
- 11:05just don't understand it, and that's why there's an edge still, and a
- 11:09bigger edge. You talk to a lot of pro players, guys that play
- 11:11full time or anything like that at all these live finals and whatnot, they'll
- 11:13tell you their ROI is much better in showdown than it is on classic slate,
- 11:18where there's so much variance. It's hard to account for the streaks,
- 11:20the last minute guts to win the water hole on seventeen that cost you the
- 11:24week, all those guys that we're talking down here, that cost you your
- 11:28tournament. So your six to six is or whatever. So my point would
- 11:31be again we will embrace that, We'll continue to talk about it out loud
- 11:35and let people continue to talk shit about it on the opposite side. It
- 11:39has nothing to do with that. Eric Cole basically did the same thing as
- 11:41Russell Henley today, but everybody said Cole was a terrible play and there's no
- 11:46way you could play them. It didn't end up mattering. But it's saying
- 11:48at the two guys priced at the exact same price point, one hundred bucks
- 11:50apart. Everyone was playing Henley for the morning wave and all this other stuff
- 11:54versus taking a shot on Cole. I think he ended up ten or eleven
- 11:56percent or something. So either way, I digress, just to point it
- 12:00out so people know that that is something that you want to take into consideration
- 12:03when you're looking at it. And again going back to the stone, I
- 12:07now have the updated versions because yesterday we're using last week's. This is from
- 12:11today for round two. Look at Eric Cole here, we know he was
- 12:16a high leverage play. We actually thought he was going to come in closer
- 12:18to fourteen percent. I think he ended up coming in eleven or twelve unless
- 12:22in some of the higher dollars, smaller field stuff you got him at like
- 12:24eight or nine. And again not preaching what he did. It was just
- 12:28five birdies whatever. There's other guys. Fitzpatrick crushed him, Tom Kim crushed
- 12:31him. There's lots of ways you can think about this. It's more of
- 12:35a learn from this. There's four slates a week, Round one through Round
- 12:39four. There's like forty golf events on the year. There's a lot of
- 12:41showdown slates and a lot of what you're learning you could take away and use
- 12:45in the future. On these other slates, most people would just see this
- 12:48give him the old or he could and see what he could do. But
- 12:52if you look, he had a chance for everything to really bounce back in
- 12:56his favor, and hed historically been pretty good in round two. So on
- 12:58the stone it lists everything that we're basically looking at over here, but then
- 13:03it does a better job of taking it in and I'll refer back to it
- 13:05maybe a couple more times just to show you. But you start to see
- 13:09it all in one place. You've got your DK pricing, you've got our
- 13:11ownership, you've got the T times, you've got projection ceiling. What their
- 13:16approach looked like. The true approach is basically taking out some of these one
- 13:20off strokes or things here and there that you don't really want to account for,
- 13:24like we talked about with certain guys who have it. Let me just
- 13:26see one thing, Sorry guys, Yeah, nothing we can do about that.
- 13:31No late swap tonight NBA. So I was just looking to see if
- 13:35there was more news that came out in NBA. There was, but there's
- 13:37nothing I could do to change that. So either way, just to note
- 13:39it here back to it. This is the way to see all of it
- 13:41one place, but the true approach will take out some of the outlier scores.
- 13:46Or you know again, maybe I can show it here. Who who
- 13:48is the guy I was just using for this? Maybe it was Grares,
- 13:52No, it wasn't Gras. Who was the guy I was just talking about
- 13:54that we could have looked up here. Let me just see if I see
- 13:56one somewhere. So going through these guys, this is why sometimes I'll say,
- 14:01like there was some really bad holes. So like a guy like Victor
- 14:05Perez today, a lot of people will just see the short game and say
- 14:07it wasn't even that good of an approach to day. But you could see
- 14:09one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
- 14:15nine, ten, eleven, you know, almost twelve, like almost
- 14:18twelve the holes. He was fine on approach, and he cost himself a
- 14:20stroke and a half almost between point one point three two on this or he
- 14:24would have looked a lot better over here. And again, people just don't
- 14:26deep dive or dig into this. So hopefully this version of this week will
- 14:31help you guys out. If everybody misses out on the Round three show,
- 14:33they won't see this stuff. But just to note it, I think that's
- 14:35kind of the angle here where when doing this takes a long time to go
- 14:41through it all and to find out what you want to do, versus when
- 14:43you have the stone, it's literally all in one place. It's got the
- 14:46golfers, the prices, all this stuff. But then you could start to
- 14:48see their expectations for what's gonna happen in the next round, this would say
- 14:52round three today. You get their approach stats here in one place, you
- 14:56get what they were putting like, and you can start to make some decisions.
- 15:00And then there's been extra work behind the scenes put in to come up
- 15:03with some pivots, some sleep or some high leverage based on their price cash
- 15:07options, GVP high upside. I mean, this is the best tool in
- 15:09all of pgidfs, and you get it when you sign up for ship Nation.
- 15:13Again, sometimes people try and confuse that, no, I'm not sure
- 15:16if there's value, I'm not sure what I'm doing this, that and the
- 15:18other, And it's all you're doing is selling your stuff. This is something
- 15:22that you could definitely use if you're watching this show. Even if you like
- 15:24this part that I'm showing you about data golf and you could just go over
- 15:28here and go to the interactive tournament stats and go to live stats and get
- 15:31access to it. This does nothing for you. You now gotta spend probably
- 15:35hours tonight going through and digging in to all of this stuff. Or you
- 15:39could just have the stone, have it all in one place, and then
- 15:41you wonder why these logos are all flying up at the top every week in
- 15:43showdown. That is part of it. It's not even cockiness. It's saying
- 15:48when you can save time, have it all in one place. That's the
- 15:50key and why I wanted to show you guys this today. So the way
- 15:52we'll do it is quick. I'm not gonna spend all day on here going
- 15:56through it again. We know we can see what this leaderboard. I think
- 15:58this is the best way to do it is to go down and sort of
- 16:00have some stuff. If you guys have guys that we want to check on,
- 16:03like right here, my guy, Charlie says Riley, let me just
- 16:07pull it up that way. It's better off. And look at Riley and
- 16:10this is probably, you know, maybe Charlie's take. Maybe Charlie has looked
- 16:12ahead. But just to note, Davis, Riley had himself a day,
- 16:15solid on approach, solid putting. Everything else off the tea is good,
- 16:19but let's dig in, okay, one, two, three, four or
- 16:22five birdies left the par five out there, bogie free round. When I
- 16:26say stuff too, like again this is all you know, butterfly effects stuff
- 16:30too, where it's like I'll say, oh, he could have had a
- 16:32streak here, could have had a streak here, et cetera. Of course,
- 16:36if he gets this one, he may not get this one. There's
- 16:37variants, there's all these other factors. What I look at though, is
- 16:40like if there was something really bad happened here, and then you know,
- 16:44it's like, you know, miss the putt lost zero point six strokes putting
- 16:48means he missed a very short pot here and it would have been something It
- 16:51would have helped either way for a streak, but either way, to me,
- 16:53I see no crazy outliers. He did have one hole that gained him
- 16:56a lot of that approach. But it's the same thing backwards we talked about
- 17:00earlier, where if you took this away, it would still be just fine
- 17:03and his approach would still be pretty solid across the board one point four to
- 17:06six or something. If you want to run this out or just take away
- 17:10one off it or something. My point being this is how you can deep
- 17:12dive and dig into it. So that's Riley. But going back down through,
- 17:15don't think I'm gonna be chasing the bud Cally round. He's playing great
- 17:18right now and that's fine, but just to note it again, usually it's
- 17:22hard to back up these big rounds, saying with like a garrick, hego
- 17:25one guy echroed who's looked pretty good and fits the narrative that we're setting things
- 17:30up for right We got you know, one, two, three, four,
- 17:33five, six, seven, eight, nine birdies on round one you
- 17:36clicked around two. It's only four birdies, but again one of the par
- 17:38five's left out there, no real special streaks. The approach was very solid
- 17:42across the board, the holes. He's losing it on very little big one,
- 17:48big game right here. But even if you again, you can't take
- 17:52it away. He earned it. He made that shot. It's one great
- 17:53shot, but even if you took it away, it wouldn't kill you here.
- 17:56And he still wasn't great with the putter. So Ekro would be the
- 18:00first one I would look at and say, and we're not gonna do it
- 18:02again. If you guys have something you want me to look up and throw
- 18:03him in there by all means, but Echro seventy three hundred on tomorrow Slate.
- 18:07I can tell you that a lot of people that go to this are
- 18:10just gonna look at this stuff. So you're gonna see interesting ownership on guys
- 18:14like Grayersman, Matt you, Pevon, you're gonna see it. Parker Coody.
- 18:18Maybe I'll look at him in a second, Echro. And this is
- 18:19another way you can sort of and look at it, where you just look
- 18:22at it by the strokes gained approach. This is what a lot of people
- 18:25do. They're gonna go to Greyersman, of course, and probably for good
- 18:27reason, Dialed, this could be on approach even with the huge gains.
- 18:33It's everywhere right, there's no real losses on the front, there's no real
- 18:37crazy losses on the back. He made a bogie. That's where he lost
- 18:40it all with the putter, so he actually would probably have positive putting if
- 18:44you went and looked at this. And yet now piano man, shout out
- 18:47the piano man, that was incredible. We got the video for it too,
- 18:48And damon this ain't me if you know me. That's why James is
- 18:52so special, one of a kind, right that. You know, he's
- 18:55got the f counter, he's got it all figured out. What you could
- 18:56play with him, play it against him for money, all those factors.
- 19:00I just don't usually swear a lot. But it's fine, Like I love
- 19:03it. I love that everybody's different and that's what they do. So to
- 19:07go to it here, I said, pull up D three. This is
- 19:11where you see it right minus four point seven, And this is what people
- 19:15will say, look at it. It's all right here. And that was
- 19:18the thing I will show this now, Like let's go back to this for
- 19:21a second, to our Eric Cole argument. Double down here. So round
- 19:25one, everyone's saying, this guy absolutely sucks. There's no way he could
- 19:30do anything around two. He lost six strokes on approach. He's a loser.
- 19:33You're an idiot if you play this guy. How could you do it?
- 19:37It's because you have to dig. You got to dig in deeper.
- 19:38You go back and dig into his Round one, well, there's almost there's
- 19:41over a stroke and a half that gets the three, that gets to four
- 19:47and a half that gets to six. So it was four bad holes and
- 19:51it hurts you overall and crushes you. On classic slate, I put the
- 19:53airplane out for the guy yesterday because there's no way, and I know he's
- 19:56going down the street to the API. But the point it's just it's not
- 20:00he's not gonna bounce back from that round, but in round two it doesn't
- 20:04matter. We don't need him to bounce back as the guy that's gonna make
- 20:08the cut in showdown round two. We need him to go out and have
- 20:11a good round two. And when it was look one, two, three,
- 20:15four, five, six, call these even seven, eight, nine,
- 20:19ten, there was ten pretty good holes. And what's the likelihood a
- 20:22guy like him is gonna go out and lose six strokes on approach again?
- 20:26Not very likely, Bob, as my guy would say, look at this
- 20:30goes out and gains on approach again. Wasn't needed, but just noted so
- 20:33you can see it. And that's what you're seeing with certain guys. You
- 20:36go to Dunlap today, gained three and a half on approach. But guess
- 20:41what over two is obviously from the hole in one, So congrats to Dunlap
- 20:45gets him a hole in one, not that he did bad otherwise. It's
- 20:48just a show. The hole in one is a big portion of why he's
- 20:51gonna show up there. And that's why you'll see people say there's an edge,
- 20:53because not about what actually happens tomorrow. Nobody right now can get on
- 20:57any show on any way website, in your cores or whatever it might be
- 21:02and tell you who's gonna go out and crush tomorrow. You use tools like
- 21:04the stone to get ideas, build lineups accordingly, and go from there.
- 21:08But to note it, it's really hard for these guys to back up these
- 21:12low rounds, Guys like Grayersman, guys like Parker Coody, Matthew Pevon.
- 21:18Maybe he can do it right, that's a guy you could get back to
- 21:19Dunlap. A lot of what he did will look really good on paper.
- 21:22But one thing that stands true, you know, besides that, there was
- 21:26not much else to write home about a lot of these bogies would have counteracted
- 21:30it. Yes, he had an eagle today, is that and that likely
- 21:33to happen? Neither really are likely to happen. So that would be the
- 21:36point on why it'd be fine just to move off of that guy. So
- 21:38that's what I'm really looking at when I'm doing it. Ecro to me stands
- 21:41out because round two was very solid across the board. Round one was very
- 21:47solid across the board, and he has capability of the high upside. So
- 21:51when you see someone like this high upside, guess what, that's already gonna
- 21:55be noted when you look at it in the stone when you see somebody like
- 21:57that that has that option. So yeah, Bud Colly would be a hell
- 22:02of a storyline. Obviously he's got some stuff he bounced back from injury wise
- 22:04and whatnot. But I definitely think there was people that liked him this week.
- 22:08I know that just he wasn't super popular overall. Use stone for headheads
- 22:11today crushed even though missed on two for the offense. Yeah, so just
- 22:15again go back to using that tool. Let me see here, keep going
- 22:18here. We already talked about Riley. I think he's fine. Maybe he's
- 22:22found a little bit of something here. But even again one, two,
- 22:23three, four birdies, you know, didn't really do anything too special.
- 22:27Otherwise that was in round one. I'm looking at here, but if you
- 22:30clicked around two today, we already looked at him. Was pretty solid there.
- 22:33Our guy og John was out at the course this week. He lives
- 22:37out there and his guy, his caddy knews that he was giving us was
- 22:40with Jacob Bridgeman said he'd found something, but he wasn't sure how it would
- 22:44relay out to the course. But looks like it's done pretty well so far.
- 22:47Again, we'll see he's got you know, seven, eight and nine
- 22:51to go, and he's right there, two above the cut line, so
- 22:52you have to keep an eye on him. Tomorrow, Ricohoe, same thing
- 22:56but again just eight and nine left, probably gonna be okay. So keep
- 23:00an eye on some of these guys. Ryan Fox, someone I looked up
- 23:03earlier before he hopped down. Again, if you guys have names you want
- 23:06me to look up, throw them into the chat. I'll pull them up.
- 23:08But just to note here one, two, three, four, five
- 23:11birdies left two of the par fives out there out there, and really bad
- 23:15on this one, you know, really solid on approach where even though there
- 23:18is like a spike hole, a lot of good approach across the board.
- 23:22So I can go back to Ryan Fox. Ryan Fox's priced tomorrow at seventy
- 23:26one hundred, so it can definitely go back to him. Shout out the
- 23:30KI camera bro like Camaro, but Kamara bro one l E came in second
- 23:37in the seven point five k short game one dollar into three hundred huge ROI
- 23:41two eighty three point five to five. Couldn't have done it without you.
- 23:42Awesome stuff. Man, What was the lineup? If you don't mind,
- 23:45just let us know. Someone said, sig, as we're going through it
- 23:48here, shut out the wins a lot, Sig. Let's look up Sig.
- 23:52Yeah. So again you look at Sig. This is what I always
- 23:53doing. How does he look? Looks pretty good? Solid overall with everything
- 23:57that mixed together, gain approach, lost with the potter almost a stroke whatever
- 24:03off the tee. You go and start deep diving it now one two,
- 24:06three, four birdies left all three of the power fives out there, so
- 24:11definitely gonna have interest in him because there's opportunity here. And then you know
- 24:15one two it kind of out said, I will sit when you guys look
- 24:18at it like this, like I love seeing all these because it's all like
- 24:21there was some really solid holes on approach, a couple of spike holes,
- 24:26but it is balanced out by you're gonna have some of these sort of bad
- 24:29holes or the similar on the opposite side. But again, yeah, definitely
- 24:32in on a guy like him. I see ct pan Panamal getting brought up.
- 24:37So the panamal was really good in round one if you remember, one,
- 24:41two, three, four, five six birdies, a streak, left
- 24:45one of the power fives out there, really solid stats across the board,
- 24:48nothing really spiking. If you look here, just look plus point oh two
- 24:52what I call it a positive? So one, two, three, four,
- 24:55five, six seven, minus point one, minus point two, who
- 24:57cares positive all through minus point one four positive all through minus point oh nine
- 25:03point was a very good on approach. Yeah, gain some with the putter.
- 25:07But let's go out and look at round two now and click it over.
- 25:10One, two, three, four, five birdies, a streak,
- 25:11four in a row at one point. Maybe I can't remember if he started
- 25:15on the front or back, so you know, I can't say that for
- 25:17sure, but on the card left the par five out there, and again
- 25:21if you look, spike hole, sort of he races that, but then
- 25:23also whoops, you know there's two here that would just bounce it back.
- 25:27So kind of what you saw out of him in round one. So I
- 25:30definitely think there would be a spot you could go back to him, Bud
- 25:33Caley, really good golfer had I believe it was a serious car accident is
- 25:37what ended up happening to him, and then he was out of golf,
- 25:40bad back injury, couldn't come back, you know eventually. I can't remember
- 25:44if he came back once or this is second time around, but anyway,
- 25:45coming back from it and now sort of moving his way up again, he's
- 25:48already back into the mix. So we'll be a huge storyline that's talked about
- 25:52over the weekend. The further he goes and the more he gets into it,
- 25:56just going through here now, Rory you, so this is the lineup,
- 25:59Camaro Bro said, Kamarre Bro said, Rory you, Benny Higo,
- 26:03Eka, Caveria and Calli. So yeah, really nice line up overall.
- 26:07Two eighty three point five five was a big boy score today, So congrats
- 26:11to you, Hughe r Oi on that tournament as well. Keep going down
- 26:15through seeing some other guys that were seeing or who are some of the guys
- 26:17we want to look at. I mean, this is disappointing to when you
- 26:18go and see this like this is one where you look, well, you
- 26:22know, look at all the lineups you have with Bez where he misses the
- 26:25cup by one, all the birdies one two, three, four, five
- 26:29six, you know, a couple different sides of it, but you know,
- 26:32approach was pretty solid across the board until one really bad hole that just
- 26:37completely cost him. Right, That's really what it comes down to for a
- 26:40guy like him, Kevin You, I'd say he's capable of doing it again,
- 26:44and he can score right one two, three four with an eagle.
- 26:47You look at it today, one two, three, four five, well,
- 26:49you know, taking care of the par fives and just one bogey.
- 26:52Very solid though across the board. Look at these approach stats across there,
- 26:56you know, one two kind of bad holes. But yeah, Kevin You
- 27:00is a guy that I would have some trust to up top over some of
- 27:03those other names that we saw. Alex Norn stands out. I'd like him
- 27:07to score a little bit more. What's Norn's price point tomorrow? So we're
- 27:11gonna get nor in at seventy nine hundred, but we see what he can
- 27:14do. Like you go back to round one, one, two, three,
- 27:15four five birdies eagle was definitely, you know, pretty solid for him.
- 27:19He had a couple of really big spike holes. So it doesn't surprise
- 27:22me as much as I like him today because his uh draw. But if
- 27:26you go look today, it wasn't a great day for him. But anytime
- 27:29someone that can score like he can leaves those three power fives out there,
- 27:33you know, this is an interesting one that I talk about with the street
- 27:36opportunities because he lost almost a stroke with the putter on this hole. It
- 27:41could have probably been a lot better. You go to this hole par five,
- 27:44Really forget this hole for a second. And this is why, like
- 27:45I, I would trust him a little bit more. Three birdies. We
- 27:48know he can score. We saw it in round one, and we know
- 27:51who he is could fit these conditions around this course. Again, remember scoring
- 27:53changes tomorrow and there's not as much scoring or anything like that because of the
- 27:57different pinplacement or the weather we saw out the winds picking up some. Overall
- 28:02all of that, I think that's where you can find a guy like this.
- 28:03But really this one is what killed him. Ten is the birdie hole
- 28:07all week long. Ten has been I mean two rounds only, but since
- 28:10they moved it, we knew this was going to be the birdie hole.
- 28:11He left that one out there. Still made back to back Birdies and still
- 28:15had a chance at the street here and didn't get it. So there's more
- 28:18meat on the bone with a guy like Norin he goes, you know,
- 28:21I never get him right awesome round one, then comes out and does it
- 28:25again in round two? Will he do it round three? Maybe? And
- 28:26then it just crushes me because I don't think I'll get there. Jake Knapp
- 28:30continues to play very well. What's his price tomorrow? Let me just see
- 28:34him. He's seventy eight hundred, so just looking at him and I'll pull
- 28:37up Lowry for you in a second there run just to see nap though one,
- 28:41two, three, four, five Birdies took care of the par fives.
- 28:44You know, can't really say the same as some of the other stuff
- 28:47like I mentioned before, like here, he actually you know, could have
- 28:48made bogie or something on this whole. You know, gained a lot with
- 28:52the putt there. So either way, more than fine with him at seventy
- 28:55eight hundred. I think he's a great play. We already looked at Sig.
- 28:57You guys probably want to see Rory, so before I up Lowry and
- 29:00Tom Kim, let's do Rory. This what we saw in round one was
- 29:03the five birdies right, didn't really take fully care of business. I know
- 29:07he left some out there. We talked about there were some really bad holes
- 29:11on approach, right, losing half a stroke on one, two, three,
- 29:15four, rounded up almost five holes that he lost half a stroke on
- 29:18approach. I wasn't there in round one, round two. He gets right
- 29:22back to it, gaining almost two strokes on approach overall, really cleaned it
- 29:26up. Only the one bad hole on approach, and it did cost him.
- 29:29That was the bogie. But you go back out and look at it,
- 29:32took care of the par fives as expected, six birdies overall. You
- 29:37know, could have made it a birdie here. Maybe there was a streak,
- 29:38could have made a birdie here. Maybe there was a streak, could
- 29:41have made birdie birdie. Like, there was opportunities out there for him to
- 29:44get more out of that one too. So I know Roy'll be popular tomorrow
- 29:47and for good reason. Probably see him somewhere around thirty percent. So we'll
- 29:49note that. We'll keep going through the list here in a second, but
- 29:52let's pull up some others. You guys, don't throw a lot more names
- 29:55out there to look up. I'm not going to do a bunch of them.
- 29:57I want to kind of just do it a little bit different today for
- 30:00you and then keep it moving. But just for the situation, because it's
- 30:03the optimizer, it's a little bit tougher to know exactly who's where, but
- 30:06just to look at it. Lowry one two, three, four five birdies,
- 30:11left the par five out there, got a streak, gained a point
- 30:14one point four to three on approach one. Two holes that weren't great,
- 30:19but two that were, so that kind of balances out. So I think
- 30:22you could give him sort of an even like a one point four is about
- 30:25right. I would say definitely. The putter helped him, but again really
- 30:29got crushed on this hole and this hole with the putter, so it was
- 30:30kind of out there as well. Round one was one, two, three
- 30:33four birdies with the eagle, left the par five out there. So how
- 30:37much is Lowry tomorrow? I definitely think he's interesting based on that. Eighty
- 30:41seven hundred more than fair price on him. Tom Kim, forget some jam,
- 30:48we'll leave him out. This guy crushed us as well, but Tom
- 30:49Kim ninety five hundred tomorrow, I know. Round one was a three under
- 30:55bogie free round right, we pull that up. I remember that when he
- 30:56rounded that out, so we had seen that he'd left the par five out
- 31:00there. I think he was okay across the board for stats. Like you
- 31:04saw, he left a couple holes out there, but going to round two
- 31:07for Tom Kim, one two, three, four birdies left one of the
- 31:11par five's out there, gained non approach. Even while having one, two,
- 31:17three pretty bad holes. The putter did help him. He had a
- 31:19couple spike putts there that really popped him up, two or three of them
- 31:23actually, So that doesn't stick with them tomorrow. That maybe not, but
- 31:26ninety five hundred, I think he's more than fine if you want to go
- 31:29out there and use him tomorrow, it's gonna keep it going down the list.
- 31:33Let's see anybody else that stands out. Who else it's gonna be here
- 31:41tomorrow. Like some of these guys like Victor Perez to three strokes with the
- 31:45putter, you know, realistically it's not the worst like he he kind of
- 31:49reminds me of I forget the guy we looked up earlier was but like point
- 31:52four, you know, cancel out, cancel out, you know, two
- 31:56really bad ones, no super spike ones, but then a pretty good back
- 32:00nine over again. Not sure which side he started on, but just no
- 32:02I know for a fact actually which side he started on, because it costs
- 32:06me the birdie or bogie free if if he makes it. So his last
- 32:09hold the day was nine. I remember that now, and so again one,
- 32:14two, three, four, five, six birdies took care of the
- 32:15par fives. Round one. He was a guy who had to finish his
- 32:19round off in the morning. If you guys remember from yesterday, so you
- 32:22know that's fine. I guess I like Max is fine. It's probably more
- 32:25of like the Doune laps and guys up there he goes and whatever. I
- 32:30like playing Garret hego, especially in Showdown. But after two pretty great rounds
- 32:35from him, do I want to go back in round three? Versus take
- 32:37a shot and a guy like greyersman, so I think it's fine. Grazerman,
- 32:42sorry, but if you go that way, you have to know that
- 32:44there's volatility and on the stone you'll see situational stuff like be careful because it's
- 32:50like, man, is that really gonna happen again? So someone like he
- 32:52Goo or Grazerman maybe guys that you would see get those tags on the stone,
- 32:57So just to keep that in mind. Chris Kirk still pretty solid.
- 33:00He obviously had a great round one. We knew about that. But today
- 33:02came right back out and one, two, three, four, five,
- 33:06six birdies left the par five out there, really messed it up, lost
- 33:09with the putter there and then only really one spike hole. But you know,
- 33:14can you go back out and do it again. It's just sort of
- 33:15course he knows obviously last year's champion, so I'd have no problem going back
- 33:19to a guy like him. Don't see much else min Wu. People might
- 33:22want to see Min Wu if you were following today. Obviously started the round
- 33:27hot. He had that eagle to start. This is another one kind of
- 33:30funny, like you know this guy and Bez Bez was another guy. This
- 33:35is a product of like the opposite effect. So minmu Lee got crushed after
- 33:42such a hot start, right, Bertie Bertie a little bogie there, fine,
- 33:45but then sorry Eagle Birdie a little bogie there, but then eagle bogie
- 33:50there, but then Birdie and then just got crushed down the stretch. But
- 33:53the fact he got to play this early on was nice. That happened.
- 33:57The same for what here that I was just gonna look up earlier for you
- 34:01guys, Ricky Fowler. Look at Ricky, same thing. Eagle Birdie,
- 34:06Birdie, Birdie birdie, and then it's like oh and then he sucked.
- 34:09But it was again. This is basically when the weather picked up a little
- 34:13bit, he got the best conditions for that. If you go to Bez,
- 34:17it was the opposite effect started super strong again. It was more about
- 34:22the conditions than the other side of it. And then what happened was when
- 34:24the weather picked up, it was unfortunate for him. Basically the minute he
- 34:28knew I know, he made a bogey here as well, but the minute
- 34:30he knew the bear trap was coming up, it was all downhill. And
- 34:34then look at that collapse right there. So it's just the way it goes.
- 34:37That's one thing you do have to keep in mind when you're going throughout
- 34:39it. Fox, we already looked up Charlie. You can rewind back to
- 34:42Fox. Anybody else that you guys want me to look up there? Min
- 34:46Wu I just brought up he was sort of the opposite effect again. Could
- 34:49he go out and do it again? It's probably a fine play. What's
- 34:52min Wo's price? Min move's nine thousand even so just a little bit more
- 34:57than best by pricing on him if you go the other way. Now,
- 35:00what you can do is also just do this is go and scan it back
- 35:02to set it up here and like Bud Caley like, so I won't be
- 35:08going back to him. I can tell you that much. It's fine.
- 35:09He could he do it again, yes, Like, look at the stats
- 35:12are there. I'm just not gonna be chasing that. The ones I would
- 35:15like up here were like Ech wrote, you nap Rory Shane are fine.
- 35:21Oh people, I want to look at Cam Young. So round one we
- 35:23knew what he did. He made all those birdies and we said, like
- 35:25that's just gonna be fine no matter what. You go look at Cam Young
- 35:29ten to six tomorrow, So he'll be a decision. Could end up being
- 35:32a good pivot off Rory because I think tomorrow we definitely see the bigger Rory
- 35:37ownership when there's no real I guess I will. I don't see people chasing
- 35:42the weather angle as much tomorrow, and if they were, I think they
- 35:45would see the highest wins of Again, it's about ten miles per hour max
- 35:50all day and the morning has a lot of eight to ten, but the
- 35:52gusts are currently showing up from eight to eleven and then they just calm down
- 35:57slightly. So what people are gonna say is, do you get the better
- 36:00guy like Rory playing later? Because they're going off threes off of ten once
- 36:04again, so you won't see Roy till later in the day with his location
- 36:07on the leader board. But I think more people would just go there.
- 36:08Now. Cam Young is up there as well, but the price difference and
- 36:12he's ten to six. You look at it, one, two, three,
- 36:14four birdies left two of the par five's out there solid on approach,
- 36:19even with a couple pretty bad holes like one or two, call it,
- 36:22you know, point four, point two five and point two one. I
- 36:27mean there's almost a stroke you get out of there point eight of a stroke
- 36:30there, give or take. So just noticing that, I mean, he's
- 36:31fine tomorrow and he's right there in the mix. Who's somebody that did not
- 36:37really gain? I was trying to see if there was something else like Tom
- 36:38Kim was the best example. I guess where again, when people are just
- 36:42scouring this and seeing this leaderboard on stats wise, they're gonna look at it
- 36:45and say, oh no, he looks horrible, but like I said,
- 36:49when we did the deep dive on him, you could see still made four
- 36:51birdies, left the power five out there. We know he can do,
- 36:54you know a little bit more. Even on the first round he left some
- 36:57out there. And then again his price tag a lot less than those other
- 37:00guys. He's a ninety five hundred versus Cam Young is ten to six in
- 37:04that example. So just going back to those two, you could definitely do
- 37:07it. And even with you know, two super bad holes, he still
- 37:10was up there in approach. So got no problem going back to a guy
- 37:14like him. Chad Raimi another guy who had a great round one. And
- 37:19this is what we talk about. These guys that have these incredible round ones,
- 37:22they're hard to back them up. Sixty four into a seventy two.
- 37:24Not a great day for him. Done lap at the home Wong. We
- 37:28looked through these guys. I don't know anybody have anything else that they want
- 37:32me to look up on here. If you guys do, just let me
- 37:35know. I'll stick around for another minute or two just to see Benny Ann
- 37:37a guy. I'll pull up. So uh one, two, three,
- 37:39four or five birdies left a couple of the par fives out there really solid.
- 37:45Again, don't remember which side he played first, so let me see
- 37:49here, let's see. I actually did see today where they added a stat
- 37:59that you could change it to see the wave that they played, but I
- 38:04don't see it right now, So it's probably something they're testing in baita or
- 38:06whatever, but just another way to look at it. But either way,
- 38:07a big difference between the one to nine and the ten to eighteen for Benny
- 38:13En. Does that mean you can't play him? No? I mean you
- 38:15look at it here. These three holes through the bear trap, I mean
- 38:19right before the bear trap and dura and in the bear trap, those are
- 38:22pretty much what cost him. And he still gained a stroke and a half
- 38:24because of how clean he was on one to nine. So just to keep
- 38:27that in mind. Yet nap power five killer been that way. I mean
- 38:30the price tomorrow he could get popular seventy eight hundred. That's too cheap for
- 38:35him. So again got to know that stuff and build accordingly. We looked
- 38:37up Grayson Sigg about Glover kind of like Glover today did not come through for
- 38:42me, but left two of the power fives out there. Round one.
- 38:45The reason we liked him was because he left two of the par fives out
- 38:47there and was bogie free. Even with the one bad hole, he still
- 38:51gained. This was a prime example. Let's use Glover. Let's let's go
- 38:53to Glover for this one more angle to look at it again. Hopefully this
- 38:57soelpul. It's part of the process, like this is what you look up
- 38:59and see, but just want to talk about it. Shout out to my
- 39:00guy BJ. He's out there always bringing the good mojo. This was the
- 39:06thing about Glover, right, So if you looked at him, the putter
- 39:08definitely didn't cooperate like he lost on so many holes with the Potter, even
- 39:13with the spike hole, it was still bad opposite kind of here where it
- 39:15was like it was one bad hole. So what I said yesterday is a
- 39:20lot of people might have just brushed it off. And it's not that it
- 39:22worked today. It's just to notice how you can find these options is people
- 39:24would have looked at it yesterday and when they sorted I'm gonna go a couple
- 39:29of places for you. When they sorted around one, Glover is gonna be
- 39:31nowhere in sight when people are looking him up again. That's why on the
- 39:36fly doesn't work as good as using something like the stone where you can actually
- 39:39get these comparisons side by side as you're going down and going throughout. But
- 39:44just to note it is if you go down, you would have to scroll
- 39:45way down here for Glover. But look, if he doesn't do that,
- 39:50and I know it's an if, but I'm saying, if that doesn't happen
- 39:52or not as bad as what happened, he would have been way up the
- 39:55board. And so what ends up happening is you don't see as many people
- 39:59on him in round two, we go pull up the glove here again did
- 40:04not work out. We're not looking at it from a results oriented perspective,
- 40:07ever, we're looking at it from a process perspective, and how you can
- 40:08apply this to the four slights a week times forty events plus on the year.
- 40:14He still left these power fives out there. He was fine on approach
- 40:17even with one, two, three, pretty bad approach holes. But look
- 40:24one, two, call it even, three, four, five, six,
- 40:28call it even, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,
- 40:30twelve, thirteen, fourteen, call it even like fourteen of the holes.
- 40:34He was solid on approach. So again, don't be surprised if that continues,
- 40:37and well he did gain with the putter, it was still looked there
- 40:40was some really horrible holes too that counterbalance that. So like one, two,
- 40:46three, four five, you know, almost saying like there was some
- 40:50really bad putting still. So that's where you're looking. Is their meat on
- 40:52the bone on a guy like Glover tomorrow, and what's his price? It's
- 40:55seventy four hundred if you land on him. I would not be mad about
- 41:00hugging a guy like him in and using him. So all right, I'll
- 41:02go back one more time, just see you guys see it. Just to
- 41:05note, so I hope that helped. That's a different way to look at
- 41:07it. We always go through it instead of doing the price tiers and going
- 41:09through and breaking it all down for you guys, and when it's harder to
- 41:12know exactly who's in, who's out, what we want to talk about and
- 41:15break it all down the same way as I always thought. I would do
- 41:16it a little bit different this week, just to show you guys some of
- 41:20the process going into it. But if you want to alleviate yourself of that
- 41:22process and not need to use it, go join the nation, get it
- 41:27on all access, and you want a PGA only, you can get it
- 41:30on this try it out for the week. Use the Stone tonight and tomorrow
- 41:32night. Try it out for the week. If you want to save more
- 41:35money and get it less, you know, basically a dollar a day,
- 41:37you can use the code hoop fifteen. Throw it up there. Hoop fifteen
- 41:43will get you fifteen percent off. It will lock it in. So you're
- 41:45talking thirty three bucks a month, basically a dollar a day. You're going
- 41:50to be good to go. You do get the course that I talked about
- 41:52earlier where we're doing the giveaway for you guys right now, so you can
- 41:55go over to totagg and tambo on x get in the giveawy all you It
- 42:00is like repost and follow at ship at Nation and then get in the draw.
- 42:04But the course has everything. If you don't want to do that or
- 42:07if you don't win, you can go to ship at nation dot com.
- 42:08You don't even have to go to join the Nation or the PGA package just
- 42:12to sign up. You could just go here, put your email, sign
- 42:15up and get just the showdown everything that we talked about today. And then
- 42:17if you want to get access to the Stone, you do got to get
- 42:20in, so make sure you guys check that out. Go over lots of
- 42:22options, much more affordable than the rest of the industry when it comes to
- 42:27it, especially for one sport only. But if you do go to the
- 42:29all access you're gonna see sites charging one ninety nine for just one sport,
- 42:34four fifty for one sport. You're gonna see five hundred plus for one sport
- 42:37you could pay five oh nine. Well, the code Hoop fifteen is on
- 42:40and be able to get in all access for the entire year. Hit me
- 42:44up if you guys have more questions on that. That's gonna do it.
- 42:46For this one, guys, I'm toe tagging tambo let ship. It had
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