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(1)BASIC BLAQUE AFTER DARK every 1st & 3rd FRIDAY | DA CREW PODCAST LIVE STREAMING ON YOUTUBE, TWITCH, KICK AND FACEBOOK 8PM EST SUN-FRIDAY · DA CREW Podcast

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, May I have your attention please? The
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Speaker 1: show stops in Live Day seventh six five four three
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Speaker 1: Suit one go.
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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to Basic Black after Dark.
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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Black Diamond, and Tonight we're joined by
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Speaker 2: a powerful woman whose work is transforming live supports to clothe.
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Speaker 2: Keisha Johnson McRae is a certified life and transformation coach.
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Speaker 2: She is a wife, a mother, a proud grandmother, affectionately
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Speaker 2: called Nun, and the founder of Queen Coaching LLC and
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Speaker 2: a Beautiful Butterfly Queen movement. Her signature message emotional and
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Speaker 2: mental illness should be a conversation now to see child,
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Speaker 2: I think we see healing. Kisha and powers Black Christian women,
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Speaker 2: especially those raising children with ADHD and navigating chronicles to
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Speaker 2: move beyond emotional overwhelmed, restore hope, and embrace peace. She's
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Speaker 2: also the author of Access, Denied, Surrender the Battle, a
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Speaker 2: poetry collection Blending testimony. I gotta see that it's blending testimony,
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Speaker 2: faith and healing. With her gift the empathy, Kisha meets
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Speaker 2: women exactly where they are, igniting transformation and speaking life
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Speaker 2: into broken places. Tonight we get to sit down with
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Speaker 2: Keisha to talk about her journey, her mission, and the
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Speaker 2: movement she's building. Welcome Keisha to Basic Black Afterdog. I
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Speaker 2: think we have a little bit of trouble hearing you
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Speaker 2: because you're going in and out. Yeah, I can hear you, now,
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Speaker 2: can you hear me clear? I think we may be behind.
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Speaker 2: Maybe mister, you can't hear me at all. Oh, you're
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Speaker 2: telling your music well and know the music has stopped playing,
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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure what that is. I'm not sure
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Speaker 2: what that is. But what I want everybody to know
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Speaker 2: is who is Keisha Johnson mcgrae Behind titles, the coach,
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Speaker 2: the author, the wife, and the new who are you?
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Speaker 3: She may need to go out and come back here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the producer said, go out, go out and come
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Speaker 2: back in.
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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
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Speaker 2: Well, my apologies to everyone. This happens, especially with this
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Speaker 2: weather changing the way that it is. We are in
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Speaker 2: two different areas. Sometimes I'm off line, sometimes they may
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Speaker 2: be offline. But if you just hold on, I guarantee
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Speaker 2: you're going to have a great show tonight. She has
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Speaker 2: a lot to offer, as I read earlier, being not
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Speaker 2: just a wife and a mother, She is an author,
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Speaker 2: she is a coach, and she has these programs that
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Speaker 2: she's running transformation programs with speaking Life into Broken Places.
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Speaker 2: She's the author of Access Denied to Render the Battle,
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Speaker 2: And I am so interested in getting down into this
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Speaker 2: and this is from pain to piece and exclusive conversation
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Speaker 2: with us. So I'm so glad to be able to
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Speaker 2: have her on my show tonight, to be able to
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Speaker 2: break through all of this. Yeah, here, can you hear me?
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Speaker 2: You can hear me now? Okay, I think I can
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Speaker 2: hear you a little bit better. But I was asking
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Speaker 2: you before you had had to go out, who exactly
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Speaker 2: is Keisha Johnson mcray behind the titles of being a coach, author,
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Speaker 2: wife and your new note? Well, uh, I love you,
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Speaker 2: I love growing up.
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Speaker 5: And I just stiel I was chosen, I was chosen
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Speaker 5: or emotion my journey with journey, and overcame it say
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Speaker 5: now who's now who's open to be?
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Speaker 6: For God? For God?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I can catch like every other word of what
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Speaker 2: you're saying. I don't really don't know what's going on
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Speaker 2: with the let me see because well she's checking on
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Speaker 2: that high good evening d D Okay, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: Can you have her to check her browser because she
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Speaker 3: has something else open, it's gonna echo.
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Speaker 2: She has an echo right now.
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Speaker 3: So when she comes back on, tell her to make
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Speaker 3: sure that she has anything else open because she has
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Speaker 3: a couple of browsers open.
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Speaker 5: To close now so that it does not echo.
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Speaker 2: Does Thank you, Hi, Charlotte, thank you for chiming in
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Speaker 2: hoping that you guys enjoy tonight's So I'm excited to
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Speaker 2: have Keisha on here tonight. She is a poet, so
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Speaker 2: we're hoping that maybe we should get her to say
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Speaker 2: a little something. Keisha, if you have any browsers that's open,
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Speaker 2: you may want to close them because we get an
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Speaker 2: echo every once in a while from you.
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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah, I can hear you.
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Speaker 5: My my speakers on the mob, so that could have been.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can definitely hear you lot better than now
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Speaker 2: you were telling me who he said, Johnson McGray is
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Speaker 2: beyond the titles that you have with your the culture
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Speaker 2: or the White And you know, I was definitely want
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Speaker 2: to ask you about that new New. Is that a
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Speaker 2: name that your grandchildren gave you or you just wanted
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Speaker 2: to be called new?
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Speaker 5: Well? Actually I only have one grand baby right now.
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Speaker 5: Baby right now, and it's it's Her name is Miracle.
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Speaker 5: And she named me. She named me. I kept trying
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Speaker 5: to get her to say Glama and all these little,
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Speaker 5: you know, cute names, but she named me. She gave
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Speaker 5: me the name. I said, I was gonna take it.
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Speaker 5: I was gonna take it.
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Speaker 2: Hey, our grandchildren speak, they speak, that's right. So I'm
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you. Can you share the finding moment
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Speaker 2: in your personal life that led you towards coaching and
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Speaker 2: your transformation work.
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Speaker 5: I think it was it was It was more so
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Speaker 5: I would say it came around maybe like twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 5: For one, my my sister had gotten sick.
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Speaker 4: She was battling colon cancer.
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Speaker 5: And during that time time I was able to be
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Speaker 5: solace to her during the moments of uncertainty that she
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Speaker 5: would have. And that right there that changed me in
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Speaker 5: so many ways. You know, I knew it was nothing
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Speaker 5: but God because of my emotional overwhelm that I used
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Speaker 5: to suffer with, right the emotional exhaustion I used to
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Speaker 5: go through, the emotional dramatic experiences I used to have
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Speaker 5: when there was loss in the family, just a lot
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Speaker 5: of dramatic things that used to go on in my life.
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Speaker 5: So to be able to be a solid foundation for
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Speaker 5: her during that time really really caused me to want
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Speaker 5: to do more for women. Wanted to do more for
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Speaker 5: you know, like I said, you know, dealing with Christian women,
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Speaker 5: I know a lot of times we are silenced about
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Speaker 5: a lot of things. So I knew for me coaching, mentoring,
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Speaker 5: being an advocate because I'm an advocate for emotional and
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Speaker 5: mental you know, health, because I dealt with it with
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Speaker 5: both of them, right and you know, even now, a
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Speaker 5: lot of it is still emotionally faceted in my life, right,
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Speaker 5: but I'm able to handle it better. Right. So I
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Speaker 5: just feel that God chose me to be solid for her.
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Speaker 6: He chose me to be.
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Speaker 5: Someone in her life that she could count on during
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Speaker 5: those times because she had to she had to support.
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Speaker 5: But for some reason, my sister wanted to rely on me,
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Speaker 5: and I knew that I not had been healed from
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Speaker 5: the emotional exhaustion and overwhelming my life, I would not
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Speaker 5: have been able to be that for her during that time.
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Speaker 5: And that right there also was the reason that I
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Speaker 5: felt that I needed to be the voice for those
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Speaker 5: women who assignment and mainly I think for me it's
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Speaker 5: Christian women because you know, I'm a believer. I believe
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Speaker 5: in God with all my heart, and I know there
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Speaker 5: is a God because he saved my life. You know,
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Speaker 5: a younger sister, I think I would say I'm over
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Speaker 5: in the middle. Yeah, because I have an older Yeah,
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Speaker 5: I'm speaking of I'm the oldest. Yeah. Yeah, you would
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Speaker 5: have thought she was the onest, but I'm the old.
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Speaker 2: On your personal journey and your identity, what does Queen's
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Speaker 2: spelt with a K mean to you personally?
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Speaker 5: Well, that that was a journey on its own. I
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Speaker 5: don't know why God gave me that the k w
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Speaker 5: e e N, but he did, but for some reason
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Speaker 5: reason because I didn't seek him.
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Speaker 4: Like I needed to seek him to get validity on it.
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Speaker 5: I was trying to think of things that that meant
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Speaker 5: just because of I guess the cliche of k w
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Speaker 5: e e N. And it was only maybe about about
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Speaker 5: a He gave me kingdom embracing emotional newness, which fit
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Speaker 5: me to a t because it was it was my tribe.
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Speaker 5: It was the women that I'm seeking to support and
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Speaker 5: their journey to their emotional healing. Right, So that's it,
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Speaker 5: Queen k w e e N and I and I
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Speaker 5: stand on that with everything in me good.
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Speaker 2: So you speak openly about Christian faith. How is face
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Speaker 2: taking your journey of healing and helping others?
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Speaker 5: Could you repeat that question again?
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Speaker 2: I'm saying, you speak openly about your Christian faith. Yes,
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Speaker 2: how is faith shake your journey of healing and helping others?
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm able to understand how God saved my life
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Speaker 5: and save and rescue me from things that I mean,
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Speaker 5: most women.
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Speaker 6: How can I put it?
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Speaker 5: God saved me from myself. Let's put it. I'm gonna
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Speaker 5: put it like that because I know it wasn't me,
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Speaker 5: because the suicidal ideation in the past and all of
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Speaker 5: the emotional trauma that I went through, And this is
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Speaker 5: not trauma. This wasn't trauma that I went through because
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Speaker 5: of certain things. Maybe that was so traumatizing in my life,
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Speaker 5: But when you think of trauma, everybody's trauma is different, right,
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Speaker 5: everybody's trauma is different. But for me, emotionally, my emotions,
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Speaker 5: I couldn't manage my emotions right. So I knew that
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Speaker 5: I had no choice but to lay my life down
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Speaker 5: to God. Right. I had to get one. That night.
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Speaker 5: I was going through so much and I just laid
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Speaker 5: my life to him in the middle of my floor.
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Speaker 5: And it was only then that I surrendered. That's what
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Speaker 5: access denized, surrendered the battle. I surrendered my whole life
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Speaker 5: to him, right which I had no choice but to
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Speaker 5: stand on him and not not on myself. So I
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Speaker 5: believe my faith is a is a whole hoary part
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Speaker 5: of my life because I know I wouldn't be where
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Speaker 5: I am today without my Lord Jesus Christ. I would not.
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Speaker 5: I would not.
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Speaker 2: And how is the spiritually and emotionally grounded when you
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Speaker 2: when life feels well.
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Speaker 5: Back to back to my faith? You know, you know
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Speaker 5: I have I have people. I have a great support
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Speaker 5: system emotionally, spiritually, physically. You know, I have a huge
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Speaker 5: support system, which many people cannot say that they have. Right,
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Speaker 5: So I'm able to lean on them. I'm able to.
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say put everything on them, but I'm able to.
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Speaker 5: I have people I can talk to. I have people
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Speaker 5: I can trust, right, I have people that I can confide.
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Speaker 5: And I have a bishop, right, I have a first lady,
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Speaker 5: you know, So I have close birfriends like sisters that
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Speaker 5: if I just want to have a conversation, whatever it's about, emotionally,
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Speaker 5: my emotions, spiritually, spiritually speaking. But I have a huge
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Speaker 5: support system and I think that's something that's very important,
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Speaker 5: which a lot of women, Christian women, women.
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Speaker 4: Alone, do not have. And I'm just fortunate to have
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Speaker 4: that to have that.
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Speaker 2: So I want to talk a little bit about your
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Speaker 2: coaching and the Queen movement. Tell us about the Queen
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Speaker 2: Coaching LLC, and what makes your approach.
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Speaker 8: You need.
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Speaker 2: You fro I'm saying, I wanted to talk a little
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Speaker 2: bit about coaching and the Queen movement. Tell us about
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Speaker 2: the queen coaching and what makes your approach unique.
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Speaker 5: Okay, So as far as the which is two different things,
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Speaker 5: the Queen Movement is actually called the Beautiful Butterfly Queen Movement.
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Speaker 5: That's the movement itself, and the Beautiful Butterfly Queen Movement
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Speaker 5: was birthed out of the pain, my pain, I would say,
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Speaker 5: to my purpose when it came down to my sister
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Speaker 5: the last days of her life. So my nickname is.
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Speaker 4: Beautiful, that's what our mother named us.
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Speaker 5: And my sister nickname is black butterfly. It was back
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Speaker 5: black butterfly. So I put I intertwined, I put them
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Speaker 5: both together and I just added the queen which was
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Speaker 5: already there anyway, because it just was a fit, right,
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Speaker 5: It just it just made sense because a lot of
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Speaker 5: things that my sister went through, you know, I experienced,
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Speaker 5: and we was just really yop that way. So it
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Speaker 5: just made sense. And as far as the Queen Coaching LLC,
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Speaker 5: that's just the the culching and the mentoring and advocacy
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Speaker 5: in itself. Right, So if someone decides that they would
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Speaker 5: want like to hire me with like some advocacy when
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Speaker 5: it came down to mental health or emotional health, that's
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Speaker 5: where that falls in, you know that. But the movement
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Speaker 5: movement is separate from the actual business.
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Speaker 2: Beautiful the Beautiful Queen movement. It's a powerful name. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: is that movement present? Besides just that, it's something else
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Speaker 2: that represents as well, both of you and between you
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Speaker 2: and your sister.
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Speaker 5: I would I would say that it represents spiritual transformation
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Speaker 5: because then it all boils down to my Before my
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Speaker 5: sister passed away, she she went through a very she
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Speaker 5: went through a spiritual transformation like never before we we
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Speaker 5: it was just unheard of because of where she was
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Speaker 5: in her life. So seeing that I knew that there
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Speaker 5: was a God, I knew that God, no matter where
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Speaker 5: he was at in your life, no matter what.
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Speaker 6: She was going through.
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Speaker 5: My sister actually went through her pain and the pressure
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Speaker 5: of the pain, and at the same time she had peace.
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Speaker 5: I watched her go through that. So my move this
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Speaker 5: movement is it is more than just a movement, right,
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Speaker 5: It's it's a it's a lifestyle. It's a lifestyle.
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Speaker 2: So what are some common struggles that you see African
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Speaker 2: American Christian women facing.
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Speaker 5: Well? For one, even though emotional and mental health is
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Speaker 5: spoken of now more than it was before, I still
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Speaker 5: think in the African American and Christian community, a lot
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Speaker 5: of us we won't speak on it, right, I think
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Speaker 5: we're more afraid again even being Christian women were afraid
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Speaker 5: because I went through it myself, even being afraid to
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Speaker 5: come to UH to share that you're struggling emotionally or
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Speaker 5: you're struggling mentally because you know you're thinking, someone would
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Speaker 5: say to you, well, if you believe in God, why
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Speaker 5: are you struggling, why emotionally you're going through this? Just
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Speaker 5: take it to God. When I can, I understand, and
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Speaker 5: I and even for anyone who's going through something emostly
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Speaker 5: on mental you can yeah, we take it to God,
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Speaker 5: but it does not deviate from the fact that we're
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Speaker 5: feeling what we're feeling, right, and that's it right. There
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Speaker 5: a lot of times we it's almost like we don't
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Speaker 5: get permission to feel in order for us to heal.
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Speaker 5: And I just feel like, for me, I'm going I'm
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Speaker 5: gonna be that.
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Speaker 2: Boy practical coaching tools with spiritual empowerment. Say it again,
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Speaker 2: how do you balance your practical coaching tools with spiritual empowerment?
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Speaker 5: Well, I actually yeah, because I actually do both. Because
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Speaker 5: you have to do both, right. You can't have the
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Speaker 5: practical without the spiritual. You can't have spirit without the
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Speaker 5: practically because there's gonna be some things that you do
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Speaker 5: or that you have to help people through in order
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Speaker 5: for them to be healing them to How can I
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Speaker 5: say them to go through their own transformation? Right?
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Speaker 6: I have to.
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Speaker 5: I have to marry the two. You know, there's no
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Speaker 5: such thing of me giving you spirituals or some type
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Speaker 5: of spiritual coaching or mentoring or advocacy, and the tools
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Speaker 5: itself are going to be practical. There's going to be
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Speaker 5: some tools that's not going to be Christian or not
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Speaker 5: going to be spiritual, but we have to add the men.
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Speaker 5: So it's just the fact that, you know, when I
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Speaker 5: speak to people, I let people know that I'm you know,
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Speaker 5: women know I'm a believer, right, So whatever I speak
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Speaker 5: to you about, it's going to involve God. But at
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Speaker 5: the same time, I understand the steps that I might
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Speaker 5: have to give you in order to move forward or
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Speaker 5: going to Some times it's gonna be mixed with both,
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Speaker 5: but the practical is definitely it has to be in it.
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Speaker 5: It's no such.
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Speaker 2: Can you see a story that actually transformed you from
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Speaker 2: a client something that really impacted you without giving the
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Speaker 2: client's name.
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Speaker 8: A client's issue, Well, I'd have been a client that
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Speaker 8: came to you and they discussed something.
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Speaker 2: And it had a great deal of impact on you.
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah.
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Speaker 5: I I had a young lady a couple of actually
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Speaker 5: a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 8: And.
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Speaker 5: She was going through something in her marriage. She was
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Speaker 5: going through something in her marriage. It seemed like the
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Speaker 5: person was in and out right and for me at
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Speaker 5: that you know, it's strange because for me that time
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Speaker 5: I had some things going on too, right, So her
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Speaker 5: situation impacted me a lot. Because when we're sitting in
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Speaker 5: something we and someone come to us with that same problem.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes we think that we cannot help them, we're.
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Speaker 5: No good to them because we're going through our own
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Speaker 5: personal personal endeavor, right. But for me, it impacted me
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Speaker 5: because I still was able to I wouldn't say give
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Speaker 5: her advice, but I still gave her the opportunity to
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Speaker 5: make a choice because the things that she was going
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Speaker 5: through weren't what I was going through. But she we
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Speaker 5: both was married, right, So I was able to to
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Speaker 5: I would say I was just I was able to
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Speaker 5: to to be her. I wouldn't say voice, but I
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Speaker 5: was able to speak to her in a way to
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Speaker 5: where she was able to really figure out what she
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Speaker 5: wanted to do on her own on her own. And
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Speaker 5: that was an impact on me because that was kind
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Speaker 5: of hard for me. But at the same time, I
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Speaker 5: wasn't going through the exact same thing she was going through,
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Speaker 5: but I was also married and going through my own
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Speaker 5: things at the time.
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Speaker 2: So you're writing and creative expression. Your book access Denied
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Speaker 2: to Render the Battle. It blends poetry, faith, and testimony.
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Speaker 2: What inspired this project?
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Speaker 5: I'm going to say that the inspiration behind this was
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Speaker 5: basically me trying to be the voice for the well.
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Speaker 5: First of all, I always.
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Speaker 4: Come to me first.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 5: This book also was therapy for me because it gave
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Speaker 5: me a chance to speak about everything that I felt,
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Speaker 5: everything that I felt was being done to me, everything
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Speaker 5: that I may have seen that I just could not
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Speaker 5: speak to anyone about. I was able to put it
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Speaker 5: in words, right. It was in words and the words
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Speaker 5: that I used during my when I was writing it
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Speaker 5: was it was therapy for me. And I was actually
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Speaker 5: like almost like talking to my book, right, I was
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Speaker 5: talking to the book and it just it's expression.
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 5: A lot of a lot of women, Christian women, we
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Speaker 5: go through things and we suppressed emotions. We suppressed these
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Speaker 5: feelings that we're having and we do not.
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Speaker 4: Want to talk about them. So I was bold enough.
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Speaker 5: I felt I was bold enough to be that voice
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Speaker 5: because I feel that everything that's in access denied, someone
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Speaker 5: is going to find and something in that that they're
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Speaker 5: actually going through and know that they can come out
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Speaker 5: of it. Because in the beginning of my poetry would
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Speaker 5: I would write about the feeling, but in an end
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Speaker 5: I express how God brought me through it and that
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Speaker 5: He could bring them through it too. But each poem
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Speaker 5: is different, each poem is different, So do you.
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Speaker 2: See your writing as a form of healing for you
25:27
Speaker 2: as well as in your clients.
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Speaker 5: Yes, I do, Yes, I do. In what way I
25:33
Speaker 5: feel that it's healing. It's giving them permission to heal
25:37
Speaker 5: because it's giving them permission to feel. It's giving them
25:41
Speaker 5: permission to understand that whether you're Christian, whether you whoever
25:47
Speaker 5: you are, that it's possible for you to get through
25:52
Speaker 5: it's possible for you to have peace during the process
25:56
Speaker 5: and doing the pressure that you're going through. And I
26:00
Speaker 5: am a I'm a firm believer, and I am definitely
26:03
Speaker 5: a right here, I'm here right I shouldn't be here.
26:09
Speaker 5: I shouldn't be here, I shouldn't be here. So I
26:12
Speaker 5: believe that my book is going to definitely be a
26:16
Speaker 5: healing space for women. It's different. My book is very
26:22
Speaker 5: different because my book it has what you call instead
26:27
Speaker 5: of chapters, I call them gates instead of chapters.
26:32
Speaker 2: I I love that you use permission. And I love
26:37
Speaker 2: when theraughp parents and coaches use the word permission when
26:41
Speaker 2: they're because I feel it's those very important for them
26:46
Speaker 2: to understand that they can give them self permission. They
26:49
Speaker 2: don't have to wait for somebody else to get it.
26:51
Speaker 2: But you said something just now that I wanted to
26:53
Speaker 2: ask you. You said that you shouldn't be here. What
26:57
Speaker 2: did you mean by that?
26:59
Speaker 5: I mean, okay, So I think I'm gonna leave that
27:02
Speaker 5: to way back when in my life I went through
27:07
Speaker 5: suicidal ideation. Now for me knowing what I know now,
27:13
Speaker 5: and I say, yeah, that was just the enemy trying
27:15
Speaker 5: to trying to get rid of me because he knew
27:18
Speaker 5: what God, the clans that God had on my life,
27:20
Speaker 5: and the calling that he had on my life. So
27:22
Speaker 5: I was at a point where I don't know what
27:25
Speaker 5: it was. I didn't want to live. Every day I
27:32
Speaker 5: walked through the train station, something would say to me,
27:37
Speaker 5: jump the track, and I think that's why, to this
27:41
Speaker 5: day that I will. I'm so afraid to even go
27:46
Speaker 5: close to the edge, right, I'm very afraid. And I
27:51
Speaker 5: have to admit that I asked God to deliver that
27:53
Speaker 5: from you. But I'm petrified. And I think because it's
27:57
Speaker 5: a trigger to go back to those feelings. Not that
28:02
Speaker 5: I want to do it, but the trigger back to
28:04
Speaker 5: those feelings that I was feeling, and in those moments,
28:09
Speaker 5: I can remember them, you know, like like it's like
28:12
Speaker 5: it happened yesterday. Right. So that's why I said, because
28:17
Speaker 5: I could have I could have easily I could have
28:19
Speaker 5: took my life. But it was just something I only
28:22
Speaker 5: had the thought. I never had the plan, But it
28:24
Speaker 5: was just something about when I would walk through something
28:28
Speaker 5: I mainly there was a lot of times it was
28:30
Speaker 5: the train station. I don't know what it was with
28:32
Speaker 5: the train station, but that would want to be what
28:36
Speaker 5: it be hit by a train. I always say that.
28:40
Speaker 5: But God rescue me for that because he didn't allow
28:42
Speaker 5: me to go through it.
28:44
Speaker 2: From when I wanted to say, I'm glad you're here,
28:47
Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm very happy that you were so transparent
28:51
Speaker 2: with it. But I'm gonna tell you, anybody that's been
28:54
Speaker 2: in New York be in the train stations looking at
28:59
Speaker 2: the plan when you train to come through, it's a
29:02
Speaker 2: scary thing. Whether you're contemplating or not. That's just something.
29:06
Speaker 2: They got those poles in there standing between them wait
29:09
Speaker 2: for the because it seems like it's a safe space.
29:13
Speaker 2: Tell me somebody from New York, I knows it ain't
29:15
Speaker 2: no joking. You got plenty of platforms and it's always
29:19
Speaker 2: bringing to people. Then you gotta I'm not trying to
29:22
Speaker 2: scare anybody from being in New York or going there.
29:25
Speaker 2: It's just that we're.
29:26
Speaker 5: Telling you that line out there is therefore.
29:30
Speaker 2: Don't go too far, and the trains door gonna stay
29:33
Speaker 2: open for a little while longer because there's a lot
29:35
Speaker 2: of people down and they got to come and go
29:37
Speaker 2: or take that bag and throw it in between and
29:40
Speaker 2: that go. If you gotta let go that that's that
29:44
Speaker 2: the subway system.
29:45
Speaker 5: For You know, if you had to.
29:52
Speaker 2: Then say something about your book in three words, what
29:56
Speaker 2: would it be? How would you describe your book in
29:58
Speaker 2: three words?
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Speaker 5: Oh, authentic, transparent, and vulnerable.
30:12
Speaker 2: Okay, And you shared every one of those things with us.
30:15
Speaker 2: You definitely seem to be authentic. You definitely appear to
30:20
Speaker 2: be transparent, and I appreciate that. You don't have many
30:23
Speaker 2: people that's so transparent that would just come forward and
30:26
Speaker 2: to be able to speak their peace and just be
30:30
Speaker 2: so comfortable with doing that. So it seems as though
30:33
Speaker 2: it's not a practice that you have. It's a natural
30:36
Speaker 2: that you and I appreciate that. Why do you believe
30:41
Speaker 2: if you believe at all emotional and mental wellness has
30:44
Speaker 2: been such a secret in our community?
30:52
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, they both yeah, they both work together.
30:57
Speaker 5: You know, I feel they both work together because they
30:59
Speaker 5: are lot of us I think, and it could be
31:05
Speaker 5: culture wise, it can be fear of the unknown of
31:11
Speaker 5: what what's going to come about if the transparency is
31:16
Speaker 5: there or if they share. And like I said again,
31:20
Speaker 5: especially in the Christian community, I really feel that, you know,
31:27
Speaker 5: when you think about these things, I feel that we
31:30
Speaker 5: maybe maybe at some point that our communities or even
31:35
Speaker 5: even church homes can have some type of separate uh.
31:42
Speaker 5: I guess like some type of separate somebody we can
31:46
Speaker 5: go to regarding just that right mental we could talk
31:53
Speaker 5: to them about our mental health, you know, because a
31:55
Speaker 5: lot of times, you know, people tournament between spiritual counseling
32:01
Speaker 5: or coaching then it is you know, practical coaching. So
32:07
Speaker 5: for me even I even feel they both live together
32:12
Speaker 5: because I feel that God didn't put psychiatrists counselors on
32:16
Speaker 5: this earth just just to sit here and not serve
32:20
Speaker 5: the people, whether we're Christian or not. But I do
32:25
Speaker 5: believe that Christian counseling needs to be a part best
32:31
Speaker 5: if you're a believer, it needs to be a part
32:33
Speaker 5: of your life. But at the same time, you got
32:35
Speaker 5: to get the help.
32:36
Speaker 4: That you need regardless, if you can't.
32:39
Speaker 5: Get Christian counselor, you're don't have to go out on
32:41
Speaker 5: the limit and get some counselor, because yeah, you don't
32:46
Speaker 5: want to find yourself on the other side before that time.
32:51
Speaker 2: So many people have walked away from their faith. And
32:55
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say which faith they are, but so many
32:57
Speaker 2: people have walked away from their faith they stopped believing.
33:01
Speaker 2: How do you work with a client that will sit
33:04
Speaker 2: in front of you and said, had walked away from
33:07
Speaker 2: my faith and I don't even know why I'm sitting here.
33:11
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. Well, if I had someone that I never
33:14
Speaker 5: had that experience, but if I did have someone who
33:17
Speaker 5: came to me and indicated that if they're sitting in
33:22
Speaker 5: front of me, there's a feeling behind that, right, But
33:28
Speaker 5: then they didn't totally walk away from it because they
33:31
Speaker 5: wouldn't be sitting in front of me, especially if they
33:33
Speaker 5: already know that I'm a believer, right, they already know
33:38
Speaker 5: I'm I'm a believer. So I'm going to ask them
33:42
Speaker 5: to unpack that for me. I want to know. I
33:46
Speaker 5: want to know more about that what happened. What happens
33:50
Speaker 5: is always it's always a situation or an experience that
33:55
Speaker 5: causes us to make certain decisions. So what let's unpack
34:00
Speaker 5: that together, like what happened, because sometimes it's misunderstanding. Sometimes
34:07
Speaker 5: we emotionally jump the gun maybe what somebody said or
34:11
Speaker 5: what they meant before having a conversation with them and
34:14
Speaker 5: letting them know how you felt because of what they said,
34:17
Speaker 5: whether it's your pastor you're at first maybe or you
34:21
Speaker 5: know somebody in the church, because that church hurt everywhere, right,
34:27
Speaker 5: And I think a lot of women we don't. We
34:30
Speaker 5: don't sit down and have conversations about it, you know,
34:33
Speaker 5: we I think women walk away. But you know, I
34:38
Speaker 5: just would ask them, we gotta, we gotta definitely talk
34:41
Speaker 5: a little more about this. You know, I wouldn't push them.
34:45
Speaker 2: The church is a little bit more critical on women
34:49
Speaker 2: than it is men, because if you from what I see,
34:53
Speaker 2: I'm not no Bible thump in person, but I know
34:56
Speaker 2: where I drew the line and I know who's was.
34:58
Speaker 2: But there's some times in a situation to where a
35:04
Speaker 2: man will step out of his marriage and he's the
35:06
Speaker 2: pastor in that same marriage, the woman is the one
35:12
Speaker 2: that most people are looking down on as if she
35:15
Speaker 2: did something wrong. But he'll still get up that next
35:18
Speaker 2: Sunday morning, still be in that pastor, still getting that
35:21
Speaker 2: pat still everyone saying great sermons. Now they may have
35:25
Speaker 2: they murmurs and stuff, but it's her that they're looking
35:28
Speaker 2: at her that have to sit there throughout all of them.
35:34
Speaker 2: And many times some of them do walk away, and
35:36
Speaker 2: when they do, some people think it's she's shamed, she
35:40
Speaker 2: did something wrong. What is your take on that?
35:44
Speaker 5: Well, for one, I thank god that I didn't have
35:47
Speaker 5: to ever experience that, because, for one, you know, my bishop,
35:53
Speaker 5: Bishop Samuel S. Cooper a man of integrity, right, so
35:59
Speaker 5: I know, even as him being a man in that retrospects,
36:03
Speaker 5: as you know, as as being a pastor as well,
36:07
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't have to worry about that, right,
36:10
Speaker 5: So it's kind of hard to say, but I do believe,
36:15
Speaker 5: of course that's even when you're not a pastor, if
36:18
Speaker 5: you're not a first but whoever you are, it doesn't matter.
36:22
Speaker 5: The woman ought for some reason, always gets always gets
36:28
Speaker 5: to bleame and always get looked down on. And I
36:31
Speaker 5: just think because it's first was the lack of the
36:33
Speaker 5: sisterhood anyway, it's a lack of sisterhood right, it's easy.
36:38
Speaker 2: Those are the ones that the talk, and it's the
36:43
Speaker 2: woman that's doing.
36:43
Speaker 4: It's women, That's what I say.
36:46
Speaker 5: It's a lack of And the quietest cut is it's
36:51
Speaker 5: so many avenues you could take with that. Is it
36:53
Speaker 5: be jealousy, it be envy, it just be you know.
36:59
Speaker 5: And I just believe too that these people who who
37:02
Speaker 5: look down on the women like that, whether she's the
37:05
Speaker 5: first lady and past, however it is, I believe that.
37:12
Speaker 5: M Okay, I wouldn't worried my stuff because you know
37:17
Speaker 5: we're talking about you know, church and you know. But
37:24
Speaker 5: I just think that we as women, even though it
37:27
Speaker 5: seemed like we've we've come, you know, we come a
37:30
Speaker 5: long way with the sisterhood and coming together, there's still
37:35
Speaker 5: a lot of separation out there. And I just feel
37:38
Speaker 5: that a lot of times, we as women, we've let
37:43
Speaker 5: our feelings get involved, our emotions get involved in these
37:49
Speaker 5: things when really it's not it's not even that deep.
37:54
Speaker 2: No daily practices that you would recommend for.
37:57
Speaker 5: Women, I think you you froze. Okay, you're back now.
38:08
Speaker 4: Okay, now I'm frozen.
38:17
Speaker 2: Right, we're back.
38:19
Speaker 1: Now.
38:21
Speaker 2: What are the three daily practices you would recommend for
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Speaker 2: women seeking peace and joy.
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Speaker 5: Well, For one, I would say, stay grounded in your faith.
38:37
Speaker 5: Keep God close in your life because that's the first thing, right,
38:43
Speaker 5: whether it's reading your words, studying, your studying, your Bible, prayer, praise.
38:51
Speaker 5: Just make sure you have a relationship with Christ because
38:55
Speaker 5: that's going to be number one. You can't do anything
38:58
Speaker 5: else else, or you can't go through anything.
39:02
Speaker 4: Else or light and thinking you want to endure without Him.
39:06
Speaker 5: So that's that's number one. And two practices I like
39:10
Speaker 5: to do. I love to write right, So I tell
39:13
Speaker 5: when I have people that and it has helped me sometime.
39:18
Speaker 5: I used to and even sometimes that I have an overthinking.
39:22
Speaker 5: I overthink things right. You know, I'm better now, but
39:27
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes you have those moments. So I always
39:29
Speaker 5: tell people you know when you're overthinking in your mind,
39:32
Speaker 5: it just seems like it's just moving at a pace
39:36
Speaker 5: that you feel that you don't have control of it.
39:38
Speaker 5: Especially let's say at night when you want to go
39:40
Speaker 5: to sleep, I tell them to do I mean it
39:43
Speaker 5: might have heard it before, but it works for me.
39:45
Speaker 5: Do a brain dump right everything that you feel before
39:49
Speaker 5: you're going to bed, write it out right, Write everything
39:54
Speaker 5: out that you feel and sometimes it don't even make sense,
39:56
Speaker 5: don't even make but write it out and.
40:00
Speaker 2: To day, right before you came on, I was reading
40:06
Speaker 2: a little bit more about you until your background, and
40:09
Speaker 2: you spoke about ADHD.
40:11
Speaker 5: How can families.
40:12
Speaker 2: Better support loved ones to a raising children with ADHD
40:16
Speaker 2: or dealing with chronic illnesses? Because you spoke suicidal ideation,
40:29
Speaker 2: How would you support or how can you a person
40:34
Speaker 2: support loved one to a raising children with ADHD or
40:38
Speaker 2: dealing with the chronic illness.
40:40
Speaker 5: Well, I can definitely speak on that because I could
40:44
Speaker 5: speak on it from an experience standpoint. First of all,
40:49
Speaker 5: you know, I raised I raised a child with ADHD
40:54
Speaker 5: and I also raised a child to have juvenile who
40:57
Speaker 5: were taught arthritis at a young age. So it was
41:01
Speaker 5: two separate you know times in my life. But also
41:05
Speaker 5: I was diagnosed with lupus at age nineteen twenty something
41:10
Speaker 5: like that. So throughout my life children I had a
41:15
Speaker 5: chronic illness and I had to deal with mental is
41:21
Speaker 5: more mental and chronic illness within my two children. So
41:25
Speaker 5: my main thing of how you know, I would tell
41:28
Speaker 5: women who are going through that and these are moms,
41:32
Speaker 5: you know, these are parents that are going through that
41:34
Speaker 5: because it's I It is not easy at all. It's
41:39
Speaker 5: very hard. But with us as parents who deal with
41:43
Speaker 5: children with special needs, who deal with children with chronic
41:45
Speaker 5: illness and experiencing our own, we have to come besides God.
41:52
Speaker 5: We have to make sure we're putting ourselves first so
41:54
Speaker 5: we can be effective advocates for our children. So that
41:59
Speaker 5: means taking care of yourself emotionally, emotional, spiritually, mentally, physically, physically,
42:08
Speaker 5: because you will not be able to be emotionally available
42:11
Speaker 5: available to your children without taking care of yourself first.
42:15
Speaker 5: Another thing I was saying to a mom, make sure
42:20
Speaker 5: you educate yourself about your illness and about the needs
42:26
Speaker 5: of what your children have, whether that's ADHD, whether that's
42:30
Speaker 5: you know, some other chronic illness, make sure you understand
42:34
Speaker 5: what those things look like, right so you have a
42:37
Speaker 5: better understanding of the child that you're dealing with. When
42:40
Speaker 5: it came down to ADHD, had I not did my research,
42:44
Speaker 5: had I not you know, been willing to to to
42:51
Speaker 5: learn more about the child I was raising, and I
42:54
Speaker 5: had to understand I couldn't raise him the way I
42:58
Speaker 5: raised a child Without it, you gotta deal with the total.
43:05
Speaker 4: They feel different.
43:06
Speaker 5: They different.
43:07
Speaker 4: They are different, right, but not in a bad way.
43:12
Speaker 5: And they just they're just children. That's that's different than
43:15
Speaker 5: what another child maybe, but you can't raise it. So
43:22
Speaker 5: I would just tell him to get the education, take
43:24
Speaker 5: care of yourself, get the education.
43:28
Speaker 2: And it's very important. They're they're living with this and
43:31
Speaker 2: a lot of times they're treated differently. But I want
43:33
Speaker 2: to knowledge some of the people. It came on. We
43:35
Speaker 2: had DD who said good morning, a good event to
43:38
Speaker 2: people to us, Charlotte Simon and here and she says,
43:41
Speaker 2: hello everybody. We have Diamond Garrett, who says Charlie Ray
43:48
Speaker 2: and you may know that is very yeah, okay, go
43:56
Speaker 2: ahead again says he meant to a combinature of Dame
44:01
Speaker 2: earlier the Trees Brimble hey, hey, hey, that's her signature.
44:05
Speaker 2: There you go, and Tabda again said amen to something
44:09
Speaker 2: that you had stayed in early as well as dining
44:12
Speaker 2: and doctor Caroon Stephen said, hey, coach Tisha. Charlotte Sinon said,
44:18
Speaker 2: it's true, it is still indirectly Tabba. Yeah, so I
44:23
Speaker 2: guess you may be talking with it's something that you
44:25
Speaker 2: had spoke about earlier, but just about everything you spoke
44:28
Speaker 2: about his tablet, especially when you talk about things in
44:31
Speaker 2: the black community. She says, exactly, pray about pray about,
44:36
Speaker 2: pray about it. She's shaking her head, Doctor calling Stephens saying,
44:40
Speaker 2: that's right, so I can imagine that head going back
44:42
Speaker 2: and forth. She said, very well, we all having a
44:47
Speaker 2: very bad connection, but we're powering through. We got it
44:51
Speaker 2: again from a few other people stating that it's a
44:54
Speaker 2: bad connection. But I think you offer powering through and
44:57
Speaker 2: I think you may be coming on my end, and
44:59
Speaker 2: I I have no idea why, because anything else or
45:03
Speaker 2: Tiffany Green says that she's so happy for her sister.
45:07
Speaker 2: Keisha Charlotte again says a man and that she had
45:12
Speaker 2: a plan, shaking her head, but god till I think
45:15
Speaker 2: that she may have been in a situation that you
45:17
Speaker 2: may have once found yourself in. And she says, say
45:21
Speaker 2: that because you came out and you said that just
45:23
Speaker 2: what you needed to say, say the same thing, say that, coach,
45:29
Speaker 2: Keisha Charlotte says, talking right again. Doctor Callan says, that's right.
45:35
Speaker 2: Black it's called a double standard. Yes it is. And
45:39
Speaker 2: I know exactly what to me and we're talking about that,
45:42
Speaker 2: not even pointing out any particular past. I'm just saying
45:45
Speaker 2: that it happens in church. And also Charlotte says, come
45:49
Speaker 2: on now talking to you. And also doctor Callen says,
45:55
Speaker 2: one of my sisters in ministry was just talking about
45:58
Speaker 2: that tonight. So it is been happening and we have
46:02
Speaker 2: been talking about it, but we're talking about it just
46:04
Speaker 2: Gosha and Barbara Jones.
46:09
Speaker 5: That's my mother.
46:14
Speaker 2: And she and she and the Bronx as well.
46:18
Speaker 5: That Barbara Johnson, that's my mother. She's in Manhattan.
46:23
Speaker 2: Okay, so you god just not from New York. Do
46:25
Speaker 2: you see how we say things like you'll say Manhattan,
46:28
Speaker 2: we'll say Queens, you'll say Brook, But when you say Bronx,
46:31
Speaker 2: you say the Bronx.
46:34
Speaker 5: Place like it.
46:34
Speaker 2: And that's why you say Bronx. Have people ask that question,
46:38
Speaker 2: why do they say doub bronps.
46:41
Speaker 5: It has been bro.
46:43
Speaker 2: It's happy, But you can't say Bronx. You say, tell
46:50
Speaker 2: you what if you lived there, you visit there, That's exactly.
46:53
Speaker 5: What it is. That's right, Yeah, that's right.
46:59
Speaker 2: I just wanted every just to know with hand word,
47:02
Speaker 2: Doug Broms, that's what we're talking about. But you had
47:05
Speaker 2: mentioned living with lupus. And supporting family ADHD. It does
47:09
Speaker 2: come with challenges. What has resilians looked like in your
47:13
Speaker 2: own life when you had to deal with I know
47:15
Speaker 2: you mentioned raising two children, and I don't like the
47:20
Speaker 2: word disabilities, I'll say inabilities and the right thing.
47:25
Speaker 9: Right challenges, Oh my challenge, challenges And what has resilians
47:34
Speaker 9: looked like in your own life?
47:37
Speaker 2: Well, some of.
47:39
Speaker 5: My own challenges At the time when I was going
47:42
Speaker 5: through them, A lot of times I felt a lonely,
47:49
Speaker 5: I felt shameful, I felt guilt. Guilt came from like
47:55
Speaker 5: feeling like you're thinking it's something you did wrong to
48:01
Speaker 5: to have to watch your children go through certain things,
48:04
Speaker 5: or even for you yourself to be diagnosed with order
48:09
Speaker 5: immune you know illness which lupus is so for me,
48:14
Speaker 5: those those were the feelings. That's why I think I'm
48:16
Speaker 5: so I'm so hard on the fact that I love
48:21
Speaker 5: to work with women who will, you know, share with
48:25
Speaker 5: me and disclose to me that you know they have
48:27
Speaker 5: some shame, they have some blame. You know, I blame myself.
48:31
Speaker 5: But when all actuality, it came down to when you
48:34
Speaker 5: when you learn more.
48:35
Speaker 4: That's why I said education is very important.
48:37
Speaker 5: You come to realize that that battle that you're battling,
48:42
Speaker 5: it's not your fault, right, you know, it's it's it's
48:47
Speaker 5: it's just what life threw at you at the moment. Right.
48:51
Speaker 5: But I always believe God is not going to put
48:54
Speaker 5: more than on me than I can handle. And he didn't,
48:57
Speaker 5: right because, like I said, I'm still here and I
48:59
Speaker 5: was even to endure during those experiences for my children.
49:04
Speaker 5: Because had I not been able to endure, where would
49:08
Speaker 5: my children be? Where would they be? So those are
49:12
Speaker 5: some of the challenges, you know, that I dealt with,
49:15
Speaker 5: And like I said before, you know, I believe that
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Speaker 5: I came out of those challenges and I was able
49:21
Speaker 5: to be resilient, you know, with those challenges. You know,
49:26
Speaker 5: during those challenges, it's because I found ways to cope
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Speaker 5: with it. I found ways to exhaust my support system.
49:39
Speaker 5: I made sure most of the time that they knew
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Speaker 5: what was going on. So, like I said, I had
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Speaker 5: a support system, And that's very important in everything that
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Speaker 5: you go through, especially if you're you happen to be
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Speaker 5: a mom or a parent that has an illness yourself
49:54
Speaker 5: or has a mental inability to yourself, but raising children
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Speaker 5: with the same type of issues you need a support system.
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Speaker 5: You need somebody that you could talk because you need
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Speaker 5: somebody that you can rely on because without the poor system,
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Speaker 5: uh uh, you know, without the supports system, and God,
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Speaker 5: I don't think I would I wouldn't have made it,
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Speaker 5: that's far. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So I know that I spoke about the church earlier,
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Speaker 2: but there that's one of the places that you can
50:24
Speaker 2: go to a lot of resources. You know, people are
50:27
Speaker 2: not just sitting in the pews holding their Bibles. They're
50:30
Speaker 2: holding a lot of knowledge as well. So you can't
50:33
Speaker 2: go to the church. I apologize if anybody think I
50:37
Speaker 2: was making the light of a pastor or church. It's
50:42
Speaker 2: just that that's just reality. It happens, it says it
50:45
Speaker 2: could be something else with a school teacher and how
50:49
Speaker 2: they are harder on the men than they are the women.
50:52
Speaker 2: So running share form fashion, it just depends on what
50:56
Speaker 2: profession when you're talking about you got some professionals equally
51:00
Speaker 2: you know, as as bad for both sexes on anything.
51:05
Speaker 2: But I want to ask you what is next for you,
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Speaker 2: whether it's a queen coaching or the butterfly movement or
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Speaker 2: even your writing, what's next for you?
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm definitely even though my book hasn't can't come out,
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Speaker 5: came out yet. I'm definitely definitely on a road right
51:23
Speaker 5: now to write another book, right because I know I
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Speaker 5: have more book than me, I have more to share.
51:33
Speaker 5: I want to speak, I want to talk more about
51:36
Speaker 5: this life of emotional wellness before. The simple factor is
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Speaker 5: I don't disregard the mental part because we we's kind
51:45
Speaker 5: of interchangeable. But they both are two separate, two separate insities, right,
51:51
Speaker 5: two separate ways of living, right, But we need them
51:55
Speaker 5: both in order to survive. So I just want to
51:58
Speaker 5: continue to share. You know, you just know, everybody just
52:02
Speaker 5: no part of my story. There's so many more, right,
52:05
Speaker 5: And I believe that by telling my stories and and
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Speaker 5: and allowing people to hear what I've been through and
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Speaker 5: what and where I'm at now, where I.
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Speaker 4: Was able to come through and thrive through.
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Speaker 5: And again I lead back to that, you know, going
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Speaker 5: through all of the pain during my pressure and at
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Speaker 5: the same time having peace, all of that came. All
52:28
Speaker 5: of that wasn't easy. All of that came with a price, right,
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Speaker 5: And I just wanted to let people know that, you know,
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Speaker 5: it can happen for them too.
52:37
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, it definitely can Keisha, if you couldn't leave
52:41
Speaker 2: one message that women carry with them long after this interview,
52:45
Speaker 2: what would it be?
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Speaker 5: Hm, I would say to them, you know, you know
52:58
Speaker 5: you're healing. Healing doesn't just happen, you know. I'm gonna
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Speaker 5: I'm going to put it towards writing and creative writing.
53:07
Speaker 5: Healing doesn't come from just the words that you read, right.
53:15
Speaker 5: Healing comes from you walking through what you're going through
53:21
Speaker 5: right and and coming out on the other side. So
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Speaker 5: I want women to know that when you feel something,
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Speaker 5: say something, because suppression, emotions, the person how you feel
53:35
Speaker 5: can cause you not to be available for the ones
53:40
Speaker 5: that really need you. That's about.
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Speaker 2: Thank you of your book, Access Denied Under the Battle.
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Speaker 2: Please please, I'll hit that book store here. I guess yes,
54:02
Speaker 2: need to be on to get that book because it
54:05
Speaker 2: sounds likely to win it to me. Yeah, I not
54:15
Speaker 2: to grave the White the Mother the New News to
54:21
Speaker 2: reminded us that emotional and mental wellness should be a conversation.
54:27
Speaker 6: And not a secret. I think you, Froze.
54:38
Speaker 2: I want to learn more about a piece or grab
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Speaker 2: a copy of her book, Access to nine to Render
54:43
Speaker 2: the Battle. Make sure to follow her journey and connect
54:47
Speaker 2: with her movement. Please connect with her movement. As always,
54:51
Speaker 2: I want to thank you for tuning into Basic Black
54:53
Speaker 2: After Dark, where we meet you exactly what you need,
54:59
Speaker 2: So i'll I want to join. I want you to
55:01
Speaker 2: join me on Sunday because that's a special day. That's
55:05
Speaker 2: my birthday. So I want anybody to join me on
55:08
Speaker 2: Sunday if you can. It's at eight pm. I'm gonna
55:12
Speaker 2: spend that day with somebody very special who I've been
55:16
Speaker 2: known for over sixty years. That's my mom. I'm going
55:22
Speaker 2: to spend that day with her. So I just want
55:26
Speaker 2: everybody to know that I chose that day because I
55:29
Speaker 2: also wanted to spend it with each one of you,
55:30
Speaker 2: because I know you have birthdays when you're on the show,
55:33
Speaker 2: and I don't know them until afterwards. So I'm sharing
55:36
Speaker 2: my birthday with everybody. They say happy birthday to everyone,
55:40
Speaker 2: especially all the Libras. Happy birthday. Of course, I'm going
55:43
Speaker 2: to say we're the best sign because I'm a Libra.
55:46
Speaker 2: We stay balanced, at least we try to, at least
55:48
Speaker 2: I do. And I saw Charlotte and it said, that's right,
55:52
Speaker 2: the Bronx. That's right, Charlotte, the Bronx. So she's also
55:57
Speaker 2: a New Yorker, and I believe she's from the Brons,
56:01
Speaker 2: so shall also says, good evening, my beautiful sisters, Good
56:05
Speaker 2: evening to you, thank you for joining. If anybody want
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Speaker 2: to see this again, catching in the nuggets that Keisha
56:12
Speaker 2: has been dropping all night long, please watch the replay.
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Speaker 2: Stay in contact with Keisha because I believe that there
56:19
Speaker 2: is more to come. Oh Heaverny birthday, Thank you another diamond.
56:25
Speaker 2: Oh thank you. Wait till explosive you become, because I
56:37
Speaker 2: believe that's what's coming next. So thank you, everybody, thank you,
56:40
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, and thank you for keeping it basic.
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Speaker 2: Good night anymore,