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- 0:05OK. Welcome to Into the Channel
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- 0:27I am your host Dino de SES Podesta and as always I am
- 0:30joined by my Co host Mr. Grant Angle.
- 0:33What is up man? I'm feeling fantastic, buddy.
- 0:35I would say it's a pretty entertaining match.
- 0:39Two days ago. I know we're I know we're
- 0:42getting to it a little after the fact.
- 0:44You know, Dino and I, we talk about the day jobs, so pardon
- 0:48the delay. Thank you for the patience.
- 0:51But yeah, some pretty interesting happenings in that
- 0:54one. Yeah, you might.
- 0:56For those that were patient, you might get rewarded with a little
- 0:58bit of an exclusive courtesy of the ITC.
- 1:00We'll get to that in a second. So USWN T3, South Korea, nil, A
- 1:06lot to talk about. A lot, a lot, a lot to talk
- 1:08about, especially for ITC fans, especially for your boys.
- 1:13Where exactly do you want to get started, Mr. Grant Engel?
- 1:16Oh, I don't know. I mean, we got a lot of, we got
- 1:20a lot of options here. There we go.
- 1:22Sounds delicious. I don't know.
- 1:25I mean, typically we start games in chronological order.
- 1:29I'm trying to think of like, what would a logical starting
- 1:31point be? Should we should we start with
- 1:33the beginning of the match? You think no.
- 1:36So. OK.
- 1:40We had some momentous happenings.
- 1:43You know, if you want to rewind back a week, you know, props to
- 1:46you calling out coach Emma Hayes, putting her feet to the
- 1:49fire, sitting her in the hot seat.
- 1:51You know how we do here at the ICC, My boy Grant asked for 20
- 1:54minutes. So can we just get 20 minutes
- 1:56for Lily Johannes? Can we?
- 1:59And got it done. But that wasn't the end of it.
- 2:02I then came over the top a little bit.
- 2:04I'm like, what if it's incredible that that was my
- 2:08honest question. I'm like, I want to see it.
- 2:10I want to see the, you know, the chemistry.
- 2:11I want to see if she's up to speed or whatever.
- 2:13I feel comfortable saying it far exceeded my expectations.
- 2:19I just about lost my mind. Where was your head at as Lily's
- 2:22getting onto the field? What are you thinking?
- 2:24I'm thinking, OK, cool, she's getting the 20 minutes that I
- 2:28had asked for. So that's, that's a fun little
- 2:30coincidence. And I just thought, OK, she's
- 2:33going to take some time, get into the game, get a couple
- 2:36touches on there. We we've talked about it during
- 2:38her her entire run with IX that we've been following closely,
- 2:41that we've been covering in the Champions League.
- 2:43She's gonna be patient. She's gonna be smart.
- 2:46She's gonna look good out there. Have faith.
- 2:48I trust our eyeballs in our assessment of this player.
- 2:52And yeah, she got into the game, buddy.
- 2:56She got well, well into the game.
- 2:59I thought it was kind of interesting when she did get on.
- 3:02It did seem like the ball wasn't quite finding her, but then
- 3:07there was that first touch with the inside of the boot kind of
- 3:10over a defender to Rodman, who couldn't quite corral it.
- 3:13Like it got to her. And I was like, that was pretty
- 3:15slick. And I think the first thing I
- 3:17noticed was like that level of decision making felt quick.
- 3:22Yes, it felt pretty instantaneous.
- 3:24Good vision on that play. And it was just shoot, the ball
- 3:27was just pinging off her, off her boot to exactly where it
- 3:30needed to go next. That was the first thing I
- 3:32noticed. Yeah, her, her very first touch
- 3:34of the match was just a very cool kind of like get the ball
- 3:37on the half turn, help it swing over to the right side.
- 3:40And that's where I was like, OK, I'm emboldening my own take
- 3:43here. Like she's gonna, she's gonna be
- 3:45smart. She's gonna take her time, help
- 3:47the ball swing around. Yeah, and you're totally right
- 3:49about that little pass to Rodman.
- 3:51That first pass to Rodman, we'll call it that, was great.
- 3:55But then comes the Patrick Mahomes fucking laser 30 yards
- 4:00down the field. Let's go aerial through ball.
- 4:03What are we talking about? You remember that match it was
- 4:06happening in aired Devizi Brown in the Dutch league where we
- 4:11were watching the highlights. We were reduced to the
- 4:13highlights because we couldn't watch the full match where Lily
- 4:15hit a through ball and the announcer goes, oh, if that that
- 4:21Dutch guy was sitting at home watching that US women's
- 4:25national team, when he hit that long pass to Rodman, I guarantee
- 4:28he had the same reaction. Big oh.
- 4:30Huge OH. Huge Dutch OH.
- 4:35I want to also give a shout out to great Twitter account at
- 4:39Optajack who dropped some just fantastic stats for Lily
- 4:43Johannes. 18 minutes, 19 passes attempted, 19 passes completed,
- 4:481/2 of three duels, one for one on tackles, one chance created,
- 4:53which is coming up soon. And that's not even the the
- 4:55Mahomes, the laser upper field. She also found Trinity Rodman,
- 5:02who nearly decapitated the crossbar.
- 5:04And I just absolutely love when you can see the rain explode off
- 5:07the woodwork because the ball was just struck so thunderously.
- 5:10That was just, I mean, I don't want to compare this to Rocky,
- 5:14one of the great sports movies, but it just felt like her impact
- 5:19was growing with each touch, with each step, with each kind
- 5:23of like Sprint, with each kind of like track back.
- 5:25And the plays were getting more and more impressive.
- 5:28Yeah, You're just kind of cranking up the volume on the
- 5:30match. I was at a loss for words.
- 5:32Absolute loss for words. It was incredible.
- 5:34I think that is such a great way to put it.
- 5:36It was. Everything was just getting
- 5:37progressively more comfortable, a little more daring, more
- 5:41confident, and then what do you know, Rodman has the ball on the
- 5:45wing, in comes the cross. I just, I love the instinct and
- 5:51the wherewithal to go. Oh, OK, yeah, let me drift back
- 5:55away from the goal into the space.
- 5:58I think the ball goes. I think Swanson and Smith both
- 6:02let it go through. And there's Lily with the ball
- 6:05at her feet around six yards out.
- 6:08We get a fucking goal 10 minutes into her national team career,
- 6:14man. Oh man.
- 6:16Come on, 10 minutes in. I mean, I mean sports movie
- 6:19shit, what else can you say? You know, your boy had to do it.
- 6:22So I put I put the call in to see if we can get Lily on the
- 6:25show. We must have been one of 1000.
- 6:27Shows I would guess. But I did ask her a question.
- 6:31She follows your boys on ITC. So appreciate you Lily shout
- 6:34out. So I asked her.
- 6:37Your vision, decision making and instincts were all 100% on
- 6:40point. As you're stepping onto the
- 6:41field and during the 20 plus minutes you're on, what are you
- 6:44telling yourself to allow you to have such an impactful debut?
- 6:48That was what I was curious about.
- 6:49Like as a 16 year old mentally, how do you even wrap your head
- 6:54around? It's incredible.
- 6:57Lily got back to us and she says and I quote, when I subbed on, I
- 7:00was trying to be in the moment and take it all in, stepping
- 7:03onto the pitch. I was locked in so I can go.
- 7:05That was my interjection. She didn't and was just trying
- 7:11to play my game. I knew my role when I came on,
- 7:13so executing that and trying to make an impact, getting my first
- 7:17couple of touches to get comfortable and growing into the
- 7:19game as it progresses. Scoring was such an amazing
- 7:22moment. The team clearing the bench to
- 7:24come celebrate with me was super special.
- 7:26Super grateful for the opportunity.
- 7:28End Quote. Look at that reporter Dino
- 7:31getting the exclusive quote. We got sources out here, man.
- 7:35Look, we're we're a plucky little podcast.
- 7:37Speaking of Rocky, the Rocky movies, I feel like we're we're
- 7:41running through the streets of Philadelphia right now trying to
- 7:44grow the podcast. But enough about us.
- 7:46Perfectly described by her. Obviously she's the one who
- 7:48lived it. To have that confidence and that
- 7:53composure at that age. You know, we've been careful
- 7:58this entire time covering the Champions League.
- 7:59You don't want to heap too many expectations on a young person
- 8:02like this, I just think, and you don't want to take too much from
- 8:06one game. You don't want to take too much
- 8:07from 20 minutes in one friendly match.
- 8:10I just think it is pretty obvious we're talking about a
- 8:14special player here. Absolutely.
- 8:16I mean, it's funny to hear her say first couple of touches to
- 8:19get comfortable and grow into the game as it progresses.
- 8:22That's exactly what we saw. Yeah.
- 8:24So imagine kind of coming on with that mentality and you have
- 8:28the skill set to be able to execute and just have a massive
- 8:31impact of the game win player of the match.
- 8:34Just wild, wild stuff, man. Where?
- 8:37Where do you want to go from here?
- 8:39So I mentioned Trinity Rodman hits that pass and I think it
- 8:43was both Smith and Swanson who kind of dummy it and let it go.
- 8:48And so let's talk about a nice little wave of substitutions in
- 8:53the 62nd minute, where the US Woman's National Team brings on
- 8:57Sam Coffey and the aforementioned Sophia Smith, Mal
- 9:01Swanson and Trinity Rodman. Immediately, the attack starts
- 9:06to look overwhelming when you bring on those four players, but
- 9:10the three forwards, specifically, Sophia Smith gets
- 9:13a goal 5 minutes after she steps onto the pitch after Rodman
- 9:18sends it in. You know, we love an acute angle
- 9:20here on the ITC. That's about as acute of an
- 9:24angle as you could get. She's what, at an 87% angle when
- 9:28Smith finishes that? Max Acute, absolutely.
- 9:33And what I loved about that, too, is kind of her persistence
- 9:36on that. Hell yeah, Swanson again.
- 9:38You know, kind of trying to back heel it.
- 9:40I like that. To Smith, who probably had a
- 9:42better look, she just was not going to be denied.
- 9:44Like she was just like, okay, that's a little stop here, work
- 9:46around, work around. And the wild part about Smith is
- 9:50she puts the ball into that spot, forcing herself into at
- 9:53acute angle, knowing that she could fucking bury it.
- 9:56Yep, it was wild. I think her.
- 9:58Balance and her feel for scoring is even more elite than I
- 10:06realized. And she's a two time Golden Boot
- 10:09winner in the NWSL and it's just like, damn, she's even better.
- 10:15Like then you really think like you know, she plays on a great
- 10:18team for the thorns. She was the number one overall
- 10:21pick, but when you see it when it gets unlocked on this US
- 10:25women's national team, and we talked about, we talked at
- 10:27length about the struggles in the 2023 World Cup.
- 10:31But once she is playing with confidence, which you see this
- 10:33with a lot of forwards is like goals sometimes bigot, more
- 10:38goals and more goals after that. And she just has a level of
- 10:42freedom with those two other forward players in Rodman and
- 10:46Swanson that now she's like, yeah, I can dish.
- 10:50I mean, she's basically LeBron James, Luka Doncic.
- 10:54I'll drive and dish, I'll drive and finish.
- 10:56I'll pull up and shoot. Like I got everything in my bag
- 10:59and I can just use it wherever. I mean, you know, you look at it
- 11:02still just 23 years old. So this is not even a finished
- 11:06player. Like this is a player that's
- 11:07going to continue to get better. I don't even know her in her
- 11:09prime yet. The thing that I kind of
- 11:12overlooked a little bit is her athleticism.
- 11:16She had some plays where in a short burst when she got a
- 11:19little sniff of the goal, I mean, she hit Max speed in like
- 11:232 strides, which, you know, she's not really thought.
- 11:26I mean, I don't know, I don't want to say she's not thought
- 11:28of. I don't really think of her at
- 11:30that same, you know, kind of pacey kind of play.
- 11:33And maybe she's more in a short like 5-10 yard window.
- 11:37She's as fast as anybody. I mean, like she just got shot
- 11:41out of a can a couple times when she got, you know, a little bit
- 11:44of a look at, OK, this might turn into something and you
- 11:47know, we talked about the World Cup a punch.
- 11:49Mallory Swanson is just an absolute difference maker.
- 11:52You know, like she's smart enough to know, OK, I've got a
- 11:55look here, but man, somebody's got a better look here in the
- 11:58ITC personal record book. Absolutely an assist to Mel
- 12:02Swanson. I know it's a friendly, which I
- 12:04actually I actually watched one of the replays in in Espanol and
- 12:07I learned that friendly is called an Amistoso.
- 12:10How about that? I love that.
- 12:11Doesn't matter. Mel Swanson, you're awarded an
- 12:13assist on that Sophie Smith goal.
- 12:15Hell yeah. Anybody who disagrees, just take
- 12:17a walk. Get out of here, Vamanos.
- 12:21Yeah, I feel like, you know, we love a good hockey assist here,
- 12:25even though we don't watch much hockey.
- 12:27I feel like Rodman and Swanson got to get the assists on that,
- 12:31two assists on that one goal. Easy money there.
- 12:34And you know, and that's not to say we're talking about these
- 12:36three Super. I mean, Super Subs in this
- 12:39scenario. Obviously they're going to start
- 12:41the majority of matches in any match of like real consequence,
- 12:45but you're also bringing on Sam Coffey to absolutely slam the
- 12:48door shut on any kind of offensive attack your opponent's
- 12:52going to have with her as a defensive midfielder.
- 12:54So that wave of Subs at the 62nd minute when I saw him come on,
- 12:58like at that point, you know, we're working backwards here in
- 13:01the match. I'm still like, OK, I'd like to
- 13:03see you guys bring on Johannes here.
- 13:05But these four nice combination. I definitely shared that
- 13:09sentiment also. That must have been what it was
- 13:12like the Dream Team when you know, Jordan and Barkley and
- 13:17Magic and Larry Bird are checking all at the same time
- 13:19and you know, you got poor Angola over there trying to
- 13:22figure out what to do. I wanted to kind of make a quick
- 13:25note on Emma Hayes because and we'll talk lineups here in a
- 13:29second. So I want to pre empt that just
- 13:30a little bit. I thought it was really clever
- 13:33by Emma Hayes to kind of like run out the A-Team first in the
- 13:37first match because usually when you have an underdog coming back
- 13:42for the rematch, they're a little hungrier in that second
- 13:44match and they kind of are up to speed a little bit.
- 13:47So Emma Hay is putting sort of some of the Subs and sort of
- 13:51like the the bubble type players into the starting line for that
- 13:55second match to take on a Korea team that was up to speed.
- 13:59I thought was pretty smart because you got to really see,
- 14:02OK, these players that we're going to try to make a decision
- 14:04on what do they look like. And obviously this second match
- 14:08goes one nil at halftime. Definitely, definitely in the
- 14:10balance. Korea didn't look super
- 14:12dangerous, although they did force Murphy into some saves.
- 14:14But I did like that little touch from Emma Hayes.
- 14:16Yeah, totally agree. I think it was a great look.
- 14:18I think it was a smart look. I think it was a way to also get
- 14:21some of those players who, you know, we can call like kind of
- 14:24bubble Olympics players or fringe Olympics players.
- 14:28I think the term you used. Let's take a look.
- 14:30So those players that we're referring to, Alex Morgan up top
- 14:34and then Jayden Shaw, Rose Lavelle, Crystal Dunn, Corbin
- 14:39Albert and Lindsay Horan as your defensive midfielders.
- 14:42And then from left to right in the defense, Jenna Nicewung or
- 14:45Emily Sonnett, Sam Stubb, Casey Krueger on the right, and then
- 14:49Casey Murphy and goal. Those are a lot of good players
- 14:52still. And I think some of them as we
- 14:54as we discussed it when we did our Olympic team draft, most of
- 14:58those players we don't really consider bubble players.
- 15:00I think they'll be on the roster that's still a hell of a good
- 15:03team, but it's great for them to get S Koreas best shot at the
- 15:08beginning of this match. Absolutely, I have in my notes
- 15:11here. Where would the US second second
- 15:14team rank worldwide that I was like, OK, are they 4th?
- 15:17Are they third? Absolutely stacked.
- 15:19And obviously I don't make the rules.
- 15:21Only 18 can go to the Olympics. That has absolutely been the
- 15:23talk this week after we've gotten a chance to see
- 15:27everybody, Jill. And obviously like the explosion
- 15:29of the the supernova Lily Johannes, That's another funny
- 15:33moment here. In the 64th minute there was a
- 15:35graphic that ran that said Mallory Swanson was named the
- 15:38Auto Trader key sub of the game. All right, oops.
- 15:43Hopefully Otto Trader gets a discount on the on the next go
- 15:46round for but or, or only maybe geeks like us notice that stuff.
- 15:50Keenan Thompson does not approve.
- 15:52He would have definitely picked. He would have waited and picked
- 15:55Lily Ohanis for sure. What's the rush?
- 15:57Yeah, come on. So I mentioned Emma Hayes kind
- 16:00of playing it cool, trying to see what she's got in the second
- 16:03match up. Korea returns 8 starters from
- 16:07the first match up, so they sort of had their A-Team.
- 16:10Everyone think about it locked in.
- 16:12Did you see anything from that Korea side?
- 16:14Yeah, for sure. I thought I thought they put in
- 16:16a good effort, especially defensively in the first half.
- 16:19I thought Casey fair definitely looked like she belonged out
- 16:22there. I mean, obviously no shame in
- 16:25being the second best 16 year old on the pitch in this match.
- 16:28But seriously, no, just like I thought she handled herself
- 16:31really well. And I want to shout out our pal
- 16:34Blue, who drops knowledge in the in our YouTube comments from
- 16:37time to time. Blue pointed out in the last
- 16:39episode, I did mention that Casey Fair is the first
- 16:42interracial player to play for South Korea.
- 16:45And I think I said she was born in Jersey.
- 16:47But Blue pointed out in the YouTube comments, Fair was born
- 16:51in South Korea to her Korean mum and her American pop then moved
- 16:56to New Jersey. So Blue, thank you for the
- 16:58education. I got that one mixed up and they
- 17:01actually mentioned it on the broadcast.
- 17:02So Blue on top of those things. Shut up.
- 17:04Blue for sure. And I thought Ju Min Lee
- 17:08brightened forward. I thought she had some pretty
- 17:10good moments out there, but the entire South Korea attack had
- 17:13difficulty with Emily Sonnet and Sam Staub playing in those
- 17:17center back roles and they would be the second choice center back
- 17:21pairing behind Naomi Girma and goal scoring machine Tierna
- 17:25Davidson. So, but I, I still thought Lee
- 17:28played played pretty well out there and then got a shout out
- 17:32Seattle Reign FC player G so young playing against her, her
- 17:36favorite manager, Emma Hayes from her Chelsea days.
- 17:39G was going to score that free kick.
- 17:41I mean, that was very obviously going in and I think against a
- 17:44lot of keepers that's going in right around the wall looks like
- 17:48it's going to side netting. It's a more interesting game for
- 17:51sure. I think it's a little bit of a
- 17:52different game if G scores that, but Casey Murphy with the strong
- 17:56dive and and you know, we love a strong wrist game on the ITCI
- 18:00thought it was a fantastic save by Murphy.
- 18:03Yeah, fantastic save by Murphy, fantastic camera work.
- 18:06You got a real gnarly angle just to see that ball kind of bend
- 18:10around the wall and then see Murphy kind of dart out from
- 18:13behind. And the sports movie vibes
- 18:15continue. What can you say?
- 18:16And I totally agree on gunman Lee.
- 18:18And she's so young. Lee was, I mean, she was she was
- 18:21a dog in the midfield. I mean, I think she she was
- 18:24listed as a, I think one of their forwards on the line up,
- 18:27but she was just kind of all over the field, just going 110
- 18:30miles an hour. Wasn't surprised to see that
- 18:33she's AWS seller. Also, I think I believe a former
- 18:35mansions for city player. So shot out.
- 18:38We're kind of going backwards, right, you know, with, with our
- 18:42with our coverage. So let's continue that trend.
- 18:46So we're winding all the way back to right around the 13th
- 18:49minute. I would say one of the ITC
- 18:50favorites, but also one of the ITC maybe bubble names.
- 18:54And again, we're not in charge. Don't come at us.
- 18:58It's nothing personal. We love Crystal Dunn.
- 19:00There's been a lot of hubbub about seeing her maybe in a more
- 19:05advanced position. We got to see it and pays off
- 19:08Crystal Dunn and that's the goal. 13th minute.
- 19:10What did you see there? Yeah, I feel like she went a
- 19:13little later when we did our team draft, which by the way, I
- 19:16know we've referenced this a few times.
- 19:18Easy to find on YouTube, easy to find on Spotify.
- 19:21Please check that out. Well, we got damn near like 5000
- 19:24views on that on YouTube, so we're cooking a little bit.
- 19:28Still a couple of you guys out there haven't seen this ever.
- 19:30Check it out. Yeah, come on, where are we at?
- 19:31So I feel like Dunn went a little later in that draft.
- 19:36Spoiler alert, but I do feel like she's passed the bubble.
- 19:39I think you've got to put her on the squad for the exact reason
- 19:42that you're alluding to, and she played in this match.
- 19:45She played at fullback later in the match, but she gets that
- 19:48goal off. Just a brilliant cross from
- 19:52Jenna Neiswanger. And you mentioned Neiswanger
- 19:54being one of our favorites. I think she's quickly ascending
- 19:56to one of my favorite American players.
- 19:58I think she's an auto start. I think the passing is just too
- 20:01good. The cross comes in perfectly, it
- 20:04has the perfect angle. It swings right to Dunn, who
- 20:07times the run absolutely perfectly.
- 20:09Looks like she's shot out of a cannon running down there to
- 20:12make the finish. And all I got to say is if
- 20:15you're a Bats fan, you got to be looking at that and going, yeah,
- 20:19we would like to see a little more of that.
- 20:21More of that, for sure. I was so happy for Crystal Dunn
- 20:24too, because I think the commentator also mentioned it.
- 20:27Morgan is kind of driving up the field, fading off to the left,
- 20:31and Dunn is just wide open on the right.
- 20:34I mean, I think any ball to her, you know, would have been
- 20:36extremely dangerous. And I love the nice one or point
- 20:40because she had a defender right on her.
- 20:43And so many times you'll see a player like that try to reset,
- 20:47make another move to create, create a little bit more space
- 20:50to then retry the cross. Then by that time, maybe there's
- 20:53a second defender. The whole thing kind of fizzles
- 20:55out. But to Nicewire's credit, she's
- 20:56like, all right, you're there, I'm just going to visit by by
- 20:59your little boot. And and it found its way to
- 21:02Crystal Dunn and she obviously buries the finish.
- 21:05Very, very cool moment for the US women's national team.
- 21:08And I think now we have some pretty recent proof, not that we
- 21:12needed it, that Crystal Don obviously could play pretty much
- 21:15anywhere. Oh, yeah, that was a great
- 21:17checkpoint for her to have hit in this friendly just to kind of
- 21:20ease some of the maybe maybe some of the pressure around.
- 21:24OK, like, where can we put her? Because I think it's just so
- 21:27tricky. I mean, you just do the math and
- 21:29it just like hurts your brain thinking about you take two
- 21:32goalkeepers that leave 1610 start.
- 21:35That's six, you know, as a sub, those six need to be very, very,
- 21:40very versatile. Yeah.
- 21:41And I think Crystal Dunn absolutely smashed that point
- 21:44home that, you know, she is versatility on the pitch. 100%
- 21:48And you know, a lot of people pointed out on well, so Twitter,
- 21:51I mean, Crystal Dunn's time in Chelsea was part of like the
- 21:56inflection point of the well, maybe we could take this great
- 21:59attacking player and player as a defender.
- 22:03And Emma Hayes was a part of that.
- 22:05And I would just say like watching the 2019 World Cup live
- 22:09and just really soaking it all in.
- 22:11That team was so unbelievably stacked where there were moments
- 22:15where I was like, oh, well, Sam Ewas is our best player.
- 22:18Oh, wait, well, maybe Alex Morgan is our best player.
- 22:20Maybe Megan Rapinoe is our best player.
- 22:22Just like trying to figure it out.
- 22:23There were several moments in that tournament.
- 22:25I mean, there are several moments in that tournament where
- 22:27Rose Lavelle was the best player on the field.
- 22:30But then there are a bunch of other moments where I was like,
- 22:32is Crystal done actually the best player?
- 22:34And like, it was like I was always trying to figure out
- 22:36like, Jesus crisis. This lineup is so stacked.
- 22:39I think there's a world where Crystal Dunn has twenty 30-40
- 22:44more US women's national team goals.
- 22:46But she is such an unselfish player, such a leader, such a a
- 22:50quality player. When you had her playing in the
- 22:54defense in the 2019 World Cup, it was that piece that made the
- 23:00USA almost completely unbeatable.
- 23:03Interesting. That's going to lead me right
- 23:05into my point. But before I get there, I wanted
- 23:07to see if you kind of saw the same thing.
- 23:09So obviously we see the lineup cards before the match.
- 23:11Jenna Neiswarner is always kind of listed there as a left back,
- 23:14but she spent 90% of the 90% of the freaking game in a more
- 23:19advanced position than Corbin Albert or Lindsay ran.
- 23:21And defensively, you know, she's a player, but she's not, you
- 23:25know, she's not a world beater defensively.
- 23:27Like she has her elite skills, right.
- 23:29And I think like, we understand, OK, if Nicewarner is going to be
- 23:33on the pitch, which I fully believe she's almost as close to
- 23:37a locked in starter. She's just so, so dangerous.
- 23:40I think so. But defensively, you know, we
- 23:43played most of that match sort of in a back three with Sonic
- 23:47Kruger and Staub. Does that kind of change
- 23:50anything with regard to who you think we might take, who might
- 23:53start, what that might look like, just because it's sort of
- 23:57to me signals if I'm in Hayes, I'm probably running stuff in
- 24:00these matches that I'm going to be running at least through the
- 24:03Olympics, right? So if we think that this is
- 24:06going to be the set up, what does that mean for defensively
- 24:09what we want to do? Are we maybe thinking that it's
- 24:12back four on paper, but ultimately it's a back three?
- 24:14And then does that mean something specifically maybe for
- 24:17like an Emily Sonnett, you're our resident formation lineup
- 24:21shifting tack shifting defensive guru.
- 24:24So. So how do you see this whole
- 24:25thing? You nailed the exact player
- 24:28Emily Sonnett playing center back in this match.
- 24:31That's not a coincidence that Emma Hayes wanted to see that
- 24:34look. I mean, Emily Sonnett is a is an
- 24:36established genius defensive midfielder.
- 24:40She was good. You have to make sure that she
- 24:42also has the ability to play multiple positions I think.
- 24:45I think that was already known that you could play her at
- 24:47defensive field and then she could kind of drift back a
- 24:50little more into the defense. But for her to to be in a centre
- 24:54back pairing that added versatility, that's a real
- 24:58thing. And you have Staub out there who
- 25:01has a little more size than sonnet.
- 25:03Now you have these four players between Girma and Davidson who
- 25:08are kind of your traditional centre backs.
- 25:10And obviously you already know what time it is with Girma auto
- 25:13start Sharpie, the thicker like with the the brown and white
- 25:17striped marker like even thicker one than a Sharpie Germa first
- 25:21name you write on there. Absolutely.
- 25:24To know that you have an ability to put Emily Sonnet or Sam stop
- 25:28back there. Or you could maybe put Crystal
- 25:30Dunn at left back if you don't think it's the right look for
- 25:33Nice Swanger, and then you move Sonnet up to the defensive
- 25:36midfield and nice swagger. She's a converted midfielder
- 25:39from what I understand. So yeah, she has.
- 25:41She has that ability. I think that's pretty on point
- 25:44because she basically plays in the midfield.
- 25:47So if you're going at a team where you want a little bit more
- 25:50defense, you have stop, you have Sonnet, you might have done if
- 25:54all those three are on the roster and then maybe you can
- 25:57move nice swagger up. And then obviously Subs matter,
- 26:00right? So you can kind of change things
- 26:02up on the fly. I think we're really starting to
- 26:05get some some interesting little looks into where Emma Hayes Head
- 26:09might be at. And we haven't even, I mean, we
- 26:11alluded to her in the 62nd minute wave of Subs, but Sam
- 26:15Coffey is pretty close to a writer and in Sharpie also as a
- 26:19defensive mid. So you gotta think it's, you
- 26:23gotta think it's Coffee and Horan back there 'cause I think
- 26:26Horan has really done great work in that spot as well.
- 26:29And we saw her, she's getting minutes like that in Lyon too.
- 26:33So I mean, you just got a lot of depth and a lot of versatility
- 26:37in that back six. And you're gonna need that
- 26:40against France, Germany and Spain.
- 26:43You hell, you might need it against Ambia.
- 26:46You never know. Yeah, it's definitely looking
- 26:49like, I mean, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be shocked.
- 26:51We will see. I wanted to put forth one last
- 26:54question. The Lily honest minutes were off
- 26:57the charts. Now, we've talked about not
- 26:58wanting to put a lot of pressure, but let's just make it
- 27:02a whole team thing because we can also rewind back a little
- 27:04bit. Look at those 3 Subs Sophie
- 27:07Smith, Mal Swanson, Trinity Rodman.
- 27:09When you collect all of these players and you've got the
- 27:12chemistry developing, does the addition, I love a Lily Johannes
- 27:17when I was going to say she needs to play like this, but if
- 27:19she's able to play, how do I want to describe this?
- 27:23If she's able to play to her average, right, which is smart,
- 27:27fast completing passes. You don't need to score a bunch
- 27:30of goals to get a bunch of assists.
- 27:31Just needs to kind of keep it moving, make the right decision,
- 27:34do it quickly, utilize her vision.
- 27:36Does that catapult this U.S. team into the favorite slot for
- 27:41this upcoming Olympics? Spicy question, my good man.
- 27:46I don't think anybody's favorites over Spain, like where
- 27:51like the USA is great. The addition of Johannes adds a
- 27:55an additional layer to that versatility we're talking about
- 27:59in the back six. Like we talked about Sonnet and
- 28:01Coffee in that defensive midfielder spot.
- 28:04You can put Johannes in that defensive midfielder spot or you
- 28:07could put her in a little more forward leaning midfield spot,
- 28:11but man, Spain has two of the three best players in the world
- 28:16in Bon Latte and Betty Uelo. I think it's hard for anybody to
- 28:20be the favorite over them right now, but they're walking right
- 28:24back into being the second favorite for sure.
- 28:28There's no Great Britain in this tournament, obviously, Co.
- 28:30Favorite. Yeah, I think that's fair.
- 28:32Maybe I just got no, I got a little excited at the moment
- 28:36just kind of thinking it through to juxtapose 2023 World Cup from
- 28:402024 Olympics and just how different this looks, just how
- 28:44dynamic this team looks. It's exciting.
- 28:47But I did see one troubling stat.
- 28:49I think it ran around the 55th or 60th minute where possession
- 28:53was 5050. That was a little tough just
- 28:58thinking through, OK, what's it, what is it going to look like
- 29:00chasing Spain around? You know, if they're up in the
- 29:0360s in terms of possession and we're just getting the ball and
- 29:07kicking it up field and then they just win it.
- 29:08But right back and it's two or three minutes of defending for,
- 29:11for the US, that would be a long day and probably pretty tough to
- 29:15deal with. But I think from an
- 29:18explosiveness standpoint, I think offensively, I think the,
- 29:21the US is the best, the best offense.
- 29:24I mean, you just look at those three players that came on.
- 29:26There's not a defense in the world that is going to feel
- 29:29comfortable staring down those 3 and being like, Oh yeah, we've,
- 29:32we've got this. Just, you know, let's let's play
- 29:34our game, you know, like it just has to send a shiver, you know,
- 29:37through your spine seeing that level of, of finishing ability.
- 29:41That's totally fair. I think you're right on the
- 29:44money with that. And Kat Macario did not make an
- 29:46appearance in this match. She's kind of still playing her
- 29:48way into form. I think it would be silly if we
- 29:51didn't give the the proper respect and the shout out.
- 29:54I know I mentioned Roosevelt spent long stretches of the 2019
- 29:57World Cup looking like the best player on the pitch no matter
- 30:00who USA was playing. Got her 100th cap in this one.
- 30:04Deservedly got it in a start. You think about those 3
- 30:07attacking players. Even if you give Macario the 1st
- 30:1160 minutes at kind of that number 10 role to distribute to
- 30:15those 3 incredibly dangerous attackers, you could then take
- 30:19her off and they either put on your choice of Jane Shaw or Rose
- 30:24Lavelle. And then defenders have to look
- 30:27at each other again and be like, OK, new set of problems,
- 30:30everybody, like everything is going to be a totally different
- 30:33look than it was before. That's a great point because I
- 30:35think Emma Hayes is going to have to account for this for
- 30:39sure. You know, just thinking about,
- 30:40right, you could figure out the pathway of who you might face.
- 30:44You know, you'll figure out, OK, in our group, are we going to
- 30:46finish? We'll hope to finish first, but
- 30:47obviously we got Germany. Anything can happen there.
- 30:49The group that we're in is loaded.
- 30:51You mentioned Zambia already and then you've got Australia who
- 30:55they're already getting ready. They already made their
- 30:56announcement. They know who's going to be
- 30:57there. They're probably doing burpees
- 30:59somewhere down under, just getting ready for all this.
- 31:03One final, final question, Sorry to keep.
- 31:06I know. I love that you would.
- 31:08All of these questions and concerns are just kind of
- 31:10bubbling up in real time here. Do you think that the US might
- 31:15be at a disadvantage for essentially never playing games
- 31:19internationally that are not on US soil, other than apparently
- 31:23the Olympics and the World Cup? That is an awesome question and
- 31:28one that I had not given a ton of consideration to.
- 31:31Obviously, I think teams come over here to maximize the amount
- 31:35of money that they can make. Well, you know, maybe I should
- 31:37be careful. I'm not sure how much of the
- 31:39gate they get. I would imagine that's got to be
- 31:41part of it. There's obviously A level of
- 31:43exposure all the teams get. I'm sure there are a bunch of a
- 31:46bunch of benefits. I could see that playing a role
- 31:51a little bit, but maybe even some ugly Americanism
- 31:55exceptionalism, if you will. They were absolutely incredible
- 31:58in the 2019 World Cup in France. So it's a nice little, nice
- 32:02little return to that venue. Obviously we're we're talking
- 32:05about a completely different squad, but France is a tough
- 32:09opponent. You might have to face them
- 32:12going through to on your way to the final, you know, without
- 32:15kind of reciting the bracket off the top of my head.
- 32:17But I don't think it's going to play much of A role.
- 32:20I think we have such a mix of players who who play a tough
- 32:23schedule all the time in the NWSL.
- 32:26And then you always have, as we've joked about before,
- 32:28Lindsay Horan, she can go around, show them the spots,
- 32:32show them where to go hang out in France.
- 32:35You know, we didn't even hear from Ava Gatino.
- 32:38I don't know if she's going to make the squad, but if you bring
- 32:40her in, she'll show you where to show up in Paris, where to go in
- 32:43Paris, so. Corbin Hobart.
- 32:46Corbin Albert could be a possibility, although I'll say
- 32:48that defensive midfield looking awfully crowded, I don't know.
- 32:51It's going to be real tough for Albert to make the squad.
- 32:54Yeah, she does look like a player, though.
- 32:56I mean, yeah, she's a good player.
- 32:59I pulled the stat here. We're going to do a, we're going
- 33:02to do a fun little UFO Women's Champions League favorite 11
- 33:07coming up here probably later this week.
- 33:09And I grabbed a fun Corbin Albert stat in the entire
- 33:13Women's Champions League tournament, from the group stage
- 33:15to the final, she was second in tackles.
- 33:18Corbin Albert, she's not even a full time starter, so I do like
- 33:23her game. Athletically, she's really good.
- 33:26She's a smart player. She's young, she has a ton of
- 33:28growth as well. I wouldn't be bummed to see her
- 33:30on the squad. Sure, there are going to be a
- 33:32ton of tough cuts. I know Canada's manager Bev
- 33:35Priestman had talked about the need to expand beyond 1818
- 33:40roster spots. Yeah, last little note there.
- 33:42The commentaries mentioned this as well.
- 33:44NWSL will be in season. That's true.
- 33:47And European leagues will not be so I think the energy levels
- 33:51could differ. Sure.
- 33:52You know when you think about the meat of the NWSL season
- 33:56versus right, we're in the offseason in Europe.
- 33:58That could play into some of the decision making from a haze.
- 34:01Hopefully we see this roster announcement coming up pretty
- 34:03soon here. A couple fun matches against
- 34:05South Korea in the books. 7 nil in aggregate.
- 34:08Anything else you want to hit for you out of here?
- 34:10I think the last thing we barely we mentioned her in passing.
- 34:14Jane Shaw is still great. I still think she could end up
- 34:18being one of the best players on the side.
- 34:21I saw the line up ago, Jane Shaw on the wing.
- 34:24I like her playing more in the middle of the park, but I think
- 34:27it was only right to get Lavelle her 100th cap as a starter, not
- 34:30to like bring her on for her 100th cap.
- 34:33So I can understand that. And I have bemoaned putting Rose
- 34:37Lavelle on the wing in the past. So like, obviously if you have
- 34:40both of them on the pitch, like you might want to try to, I
- 34:43don't know. If you're going to play four
- 34:44midfield players and try to play them both centrally, one of them
- 34:47is going to have to get a little more comfortable on the wing
- 34:50unless you were in a full rotation for those players.
- 34:53But other than that, I just think it's a pretty good problem
- 34:56to have when I'm picking out. I don't like Sean the wing
- 35:00because you got to play Rose Lavelle in the center.
- 35:02Or maybe it might. I come to the factorizing.
- 35:04I don't like playing Rose Lavelle on the wing because you
- 35:05got to play Shaw in the center. So these are all very good
- 35:08problems to have. Absolutely.
- 35:10I'm I'm happy that you and I are here talking about it, not in
- 35:13some humid office somewhere trying to figure out who's
- 35:16actually going to be on this team and having to make those
- 35:18calls that they mentioned on the on the broadcast as well.
- 35:20The Mia is going to call each and every player that was
- 35:23invited, let them know personally whether they're in or
- 35:26out. All right, man, I think we did
- 35:28it. This has been another episode of
- 35:29it to the channel. Thank you, thank you, thank you
- 35:31for watching, listening, liking, subscribing, just playing,
- 35:33hanging out with your boys. Appreciate you blue appreciate
- 35:37you Dan appreciate you Lily remember like if you liked and
- 35:41subscribe or follow into the channel, YouTube, Spotify, Apple
- 35:45podcast, wherever you like to watch or listen and a big thank
- 35:47you to my Co host as well, Mr. Grant Engel for being well on
- 35:51his way to his 100th cap. What are we in?
- 35:54This is episode 42. We're almost there buddy, almost
- 35:56halfway there, so stick with me, we're going to make it happen.
- 35:59You know what, I'm glad that we are the center back pairing.
- 36:02We are in Sharpie in the into the channel lineup.
- 36:06I wouldn't choose anybody else to do it with buddy.
- 36:08One more shout out to our guy Dan Johannes.
- 36:11I got to tell you, watching the match with my wife Jennifer
- 36:14sitting next to me who is AUS women's national team super fan,
- 36:18she was like a little emotional watching that happen.
- 36:21When the Johannes goal happens, she looked at me and said this
- 36:25is a feeling that we haven't had for a a little while as a
- 36:28national team. And then for her to see Lily
- 36:32achieve that in her first cap 10 minutes in, obviously knowing
- 36:36that, you know, we we kick it with Dan and and talk to him
- 36:39over over those internets from time to time.
- 36:43Just a magical, magical moment in the history of the national
- 36:47team and one that I think probably projects
- 36:50forward-looking good. So cheers to you, Dan, and we
- 36:53appreciate everybody for rocket with us.