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New Claims Against Real Estate Moguls Alexander Brothers · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace even referred to as real
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Speaker 1: estate royalty. Now in the latest two Alexander brothers are
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Speaker 1: facing more sex crimes, including crimes against an underage girl.
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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. The so called real estate royalty Alexander
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Speaker 1: brothers are facing new claims of sex trafficking. Those claims
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Speaker 1: have been expanded to include six additional victims, including an
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Speaker 1: underage little girl. This isn't just a claim by other victims,
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Speaker 1: it's according to a new superseding indictment filed by Manhattan
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Speaker 1: Federal prosecutors. What is a superseding indictment? When you're arrested, Okay,
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Speaker 1: you're arrested on charge file by police. Okay, so you
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Speaker 1: could be arrested for let's just say, burglary. But then
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Speaker 1: when the prosecutor looks carefully at the case in Indictments Division,
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Speaker 1: they see, oh, this isn't just a burglary. The went
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Speaker 1: into the home with a gun and pull the gun
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Speaker 1: on the homeowner before they took the TV. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: that means it's not just a burglary. It is a robbery,
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Speaker 1: an armed robbery. So the legal elements may dictate a
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Speaker 1: change in the charges. So you've got the original charges
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Speaker 1: that police may rest you on, for instance, burglary. Then
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Speaker 1: you have an indictment, which is handed down typically by
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Speaker 1: a grand jury grand jury, what is that? A pettit
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Speaker 1: or petite jury is a jury of six or twelve
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Speaker 1: that here's your case, hopefully with a couple of alternates.
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Speaker 1: A grand jury is twenty to thirty to forty people,
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Speaker 1: depending on the jurisdiction that here. Cases usually rapidly and
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Speaker 1: they decide will there be a true bill of indictment
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Speaker 1: or a no bill deciding not to charge the person.
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Speaker 1: A superseding indictment may come later, which means after the
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Speaker 1: first indictment has been handed down by the grand jury,
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Speaker 1: other charges Typically it's other charges. It could be other facts,
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Speaker 1: but typically new and additional charges are added to the
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Speaker 1: charges in the old the first indictment. Now we've seen
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Speaker 1: superseding indictments in the Seawan Combs Ditty case. Wow, they
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Speaker 1: had a lot of charges. But let's get back to
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Speaker 1: the real chief brothers Oran and Tale Alexander. They're the
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Speaker 1: twins and another brother is involved as well. There's three
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Speaker 1: brothers charged. There's oron intale Alexander, who reigned over the
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Speaker 1: luxury real estate markets in New York and Miami, as
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Speaker 1: well as or in Alexander's twin alone Alexander. Now. They
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Speaker 1: were first charge in Manhattan, accused of six trafficking two
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Speaker 1: victims by force, fraud or coercion. All three brothers were
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Speaker 1: accused of trafficking the first victim, Tell Alexander was accused
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Speaker 1: alone of trafficking the second. This new indictment widens the
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Speaker 1: charges against all three brothers. It says one or more
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Speaker 1: of the brothers variously used force, coercion, fraud, tricking someone,
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Speaker 1: and trafficking the five women and the girl, the underage girl. Okay, reset,
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Speaker 1: what do we know about this case? Who are these
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Speaker 1: people other than so called real estate royalty? They ain't too.
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Speaker 2: Royal brothers luxury real estate agents to the super rich.
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Speaker 2: Indicted on federal sex trafficking and battery charges. Claims go
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Speaker 2: back more than a decade.
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Speaker 1: Claims going back more than a decade? Try two decades.
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Speaker 1: Now forty women that we know of, the claiming these
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Speaker 1: filled the rich real estate moguls took part in rape
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Speaker 1: after rape after systematic rape, and that the allegations go
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Speaker 1: back to when they were in high school. All that money,
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Speaker 1: all that privilege and education has bought them a one
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Speaker 1: way ticket to Hell with a pitstop and the federal penitentiary.
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Speaker 1: That's my prediction. But I want you to hear what
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Speaker 1: Damian Williams, the US attorney, has to say.
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Speaker 3: The Alexander brothers and other men they planned the trips with,
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Speaker 3: paid for the flights or accommodations for the women on
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Speaker 3: these trips, and at times the defendants handpicked the women
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Speaker 3: to invite. At other times they use paid party promoters
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Speaker 3: to source women for them.
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Speaker 1: The indictment also.
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Speaker 3: Alleges that in advance of these events, the Alexander brothers
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Speaker 3: and others procured drugs that they agreed to provide to
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Speaker 3: the women, including cocaine, mushrooms, and GHB as. We allege
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Speaker 3: that these drugs caused some of the women to be
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Speaker 3: physically unable to fight back or to escape.
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Speaker 1: Now you know why they're calling it the new didty
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Speaker 1: or should I say the new ditties. Now that's what
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Speaker 1: the US attorney is saying for the US Attorney for
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Speaker 1: the Southern District. But I want you to look at
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Speaker 1: Orrin Alexander on the founder.
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Speaker 4: Having the ability to work with my brother, to have
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Speaker 4: a partner with your brother. Now, just think about that
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Speaker 4: for a section.
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Speaker 2: It's the biggest issue you have in partners shift is
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Speaker 2: the trust and knowing that you don't.
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Speaker 5: Have to worry.
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Speaker 1: Honey, you got something to worry about. Now, what if
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Speaker 1: your brother flips on you and testifies against you. Let's
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Speaker 1: just analyog what we just heard, and that's where our friends.
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Speaker 1: That from the founder on YouTube, that's orin Alexander one
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Speaker 1: of the and I mean filed the rich rolling in money.
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Speaker 1: That's or in Alexander quote, having the ability to work
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Speaker 1: with my brother, to have a partner who's your brother,
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Speaker 1: you know, just think about that for a second. Don't worry,
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it. The biggest issue you have in
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Speaker 1: partnership is trust and knowing you don't have to worry. Okay,
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Speaker 1: what happened with me? An All Star panel, Let's get
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Speaker 1: to it straight out to Christina Yo joining US national
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Speaker 1: news anchor Salem News Channel. Christina, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. I'm really curious about how much money these
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Speaker 1: two have. And this goes all the way back. Their
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Speaker 1: family is wealthy. Their grandfather wealthy blah blah blah blah,
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Speaker 1: kind of like Luigi MANNGIONI just all that money to
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Speaker 1: silver spoons in the mouth. And yet this what happened, Christina.
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Speaker 6: You know, actually I think it started way back when
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Speaker 6: they were in high school. As people are now starting
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Speaker 6: to come out and say that they actually had a
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Speaker 6: sex fan that was parked in front of their parents
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Speaker 6: forty million dollar beachfront of state where the boys, the
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Speaker 6: brothers in high school, would take women to have.
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Speaker 1: Sex in that bus in front of their parents' house.
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Speaker 6: So this has been behavior that has been encouraged, perhaps
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Speaker 6: by their parents all the way through. Then you add
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Speaker 6: the hundreds of millions of dollars in properties that these
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Speaker 6: brothers have sold and the security business, and they're pretty
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Speaker 6: much running around town doing anything that they want, including,
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Speaker 6: according to prosecutors, drugging women raping women. Each brother has
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Speaker 6: separately been accused of at least ten rapes, ten forcible
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Speaker 6: rapes by women, and prosecutors are saying.
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Speaker 1: That, hey, hey, Christina, Christina Ohio, hold on, doud, wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, we were just looking at them. Karen Stark,
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Speaker 1: why is this so hard for people to believe that
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Speaker 1: super wealthy college educated, great job, guys can commit heinous crimes.
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Speaker 1: That's what he posted on his own Facebook.
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Speaker 7: Go ahead, well, I really believe Nancy, and people see
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Speaker 7: this outward of parents. They're dressed so well, they look
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Speaker 7: so terrific that they buy that that they believe that
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Speaker 7: that's what they really like, and they have no idea
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Speaker 7: what's going on behind the scene. And actually the fact
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Speaker 7: that he says he trusts his brother, I was thinking, yeah,
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Speaker 7: they trust. All of them trust each other in supporting
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Speaker 7: the crimes that they committed, which made it even worse
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Speaker 7: because they were encouraged.
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Speaker 1: Nima Ramani is joining US high profile lawyer out of
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Speaker 1: the California jurisdiction and for my purposes, former federal prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: president of the West Coast Trial Lawyers and author of
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Speaker 1: Harvard to hashtag Nima, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Many people not familiar with our world of crime would say, hey,
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Speaker 1: why do they have to rape women? With good looks?
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Speaker 1: Of course they're not attractive to me. I think they
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Speaker 1: look like Satan himself. But with good looks and all
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Speaker 1: that money, they could get any woman they want, so
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Speaker 1: why rape a woman? That kind of argument has actually
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Speaker 1: worked on juries before. Nima, it has.
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Speaker 8: But Nancy, this isn't just having sex with women. We're
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Speaker 8: talking about drug induced to orgies right where multiple men,
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Speaker 8: including the two brothers, are allegedly having sex with the
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Speaker 8: same woman. So yeah, women might want to have sex with.
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Speaker 5: A handsome, wealthy man, but.
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Speaker 8: Not get in a situation where they're having an orgy
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Speaker 8: and they are being violated by multiple men.
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Speaker 1: Your speaking sense to me, Yes, I know that, that's
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Speaker 1: my point, Nima, I'm like two steps beyond that. Of course,
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Speaker 1: what you just said is right. What I'm saying is
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Speaker 1: it would be argued to a jury. Just look at them.
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Speaker 1: Why would they have to source women with a pr
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Speaker 1: person in other words, basically pimp pimp for the brothers
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Speaker 1: because they could get any woman they want. Therefore, ergo
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Speaker 1: they're innocent.
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Speaker 5: It's not just any woman, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: They need new women every single.
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Speaker 8: Night, and they want to do things to these women
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Speaker 8: that a lot of women wouldn't consent to. Now, obviously
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Speaker 8: this is a family show, so I'm not going to
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Speaker 8: get into all that. But that's why they're using drugs
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Speaker 8: like GHP to drug these women so they can't say no.
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Speaker 5: That's what this is all about, and the tailor as
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Speaker 5: old as time, doesn't matter. If it's the Alexander Brothers.
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Speaker 1: Diddy, I can see that. I'm clearly I think you
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Speaker 1: and I have a communication problem because you're just basically
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Speaker 1: saying everything that I say. I'm Lynn Shaw helped me
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Speaker 1: out here, Founder executive director Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending
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Speaker 1: sex attacks on children and women. Lynn Shaw. I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to make the point that the argument will be made
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Speaker 1: by the defense. I already know the facts is presented
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Speaker 1: by the state. Everything that Ramani just said, I get it.
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Speaker 1: I've read the indictment. Okay, the defense is going to
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Speaker 1: argue at trial they don't need to rape women. They
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Speaker 1: can get any woman they want. Therefore, this is consensual.
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Speaker 1: That's bs It's argued in so many rape cases.
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Speaker 9: I call them the Alexander Brothers crime family, and I
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Speaker 9: call these dirty Ditty complicit wannabes. Listen, the egos are
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Speaker 9: so big they're out of control. Again, this is the
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Speaker 9: same story we heard with Ditty and others facing charges
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Speaker 9: like this, that so many vulnerable girls and women. I'm
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Speaker 9: gonna throw in the girls again. I wish we could
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Speaker 9: get down to were there any miners involved, But that
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Speaker 9: will unfold at some point. They want to see and
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Speaker 9: live this lifestyle. Many of these women were approached online
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Speaker 9: complete strains, and they said, we'll fly you out, We'll
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Speaker 9: give you hotels, we'll give you parties, we'll give you clothes,
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Speaker 9: and vulnerable people, girls especially really want to experience this.
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Speaker 9: I'm here to say if this case can help us
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Speaker 9: educate the general public, because we're hearing about all these
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Speaker 9: you know, Dirty Diddy, We're hearing about Tape brothers, We're
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Speaker 9: hearing about Jeffrey Epstein, we're hearing about now these criminal
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Speaker 9: Alexander brothers.
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Speaker 1: Could if it could water down eventually.
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Speaker 9: My hope is to everyday cases that are happening, that
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Speaker 9: nobody will ever hear those victims, see those victims, so
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Speaker 9: we can educate everybody. When they offer you something like this,
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Speaker 9: this lifestyle for free, they're going to fly you somewhere
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Speaker 9: run in the other direction. This is again their powers,
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Speaker 9: their money, their egos, their homes overtaking people's common sense.
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Speaker 9: We have to do better educating the public, girls and
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Speaker 9: women about all of this.
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Speaker 1: Their family wealth has been estimated. Correct me if I'm wrong, Christina,
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Speaker 1: why joining me from Salemw's channel over one hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars.
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Speaker 6: Correct, and I'm I'm sure that's even more than that.
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Speaker 6: Is the parents have offered to put up to one
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Speaker 6: billion dollars to get their three boys out of prison,
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Speaker 6: out on bail. They've even offered to put them up
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Speaker 6: in a second story apartment complex where they're jail time,
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Speaker 6: pre trial, that has no beachfront, that has no luxury.
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Speaker 6: That's you know, guarded twenty four to seven by.
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Speaker 1: Guard wha wa wait waite White, Christina, Wait, did you
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Speaker 1: say the parents want to get them out of jail
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Speaker 1: on a billion as in brother b brother billion dollar bail.
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Speaker 1: And the jail is because they don't have.
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Speaker 6: A beach, they won't have a lottery view, they won't
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Speaker 6: have any orgies, and it won't be luxury. So that's
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Speaker 6: what they're considering to be jail. And yes, up to
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Speaker 6: one billion, with a beat, is what they're willing to
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Speaker 6: put up to get their three sons out of prison.
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Speaker 1: Bill Day, it's the ditties, It's the new ditties because
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Speaker 1: all the money, the procuring the women, making other people
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Speaker 1: be your hench person to bring women to you, to
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Speaker 1: drug them and rave them. Those are the allegations that
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Speaker 1: presumed innocent, but also is Luigi Mangioni all over again.
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Speaker 1: Here is a rich brat kid whining about how US
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Speaker 1: common people have to live with the healthcare industry while
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Speaker 1: he's in a beach front Hawaii luxury high rise condo.
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Speaker 1: His great grandparents and grandparents and broke their backs coming
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Speaker 1: to this country and becoming millionaires, working up from nothing nothing,
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Speaker 1: passing it down. So Luigi Mangioni could whine in his
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Speaker 1: luxury condo, these two same thing. Bill.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and in this case they've actually built the business,
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Speaker 10: so they built their brand.
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Speaker 5: They now feel omnipotent.
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Speaker 10: I mean they have money, they're they're traveling with celebrities,
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Speaker 10: they're flying on private jets.
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Speaker 5: You know, they're selling these huge, multi multimillion dollar properties.
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Speaker 10: They're getting headlines in all kinds of media, including their
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Speaker 10: own real estate empire.
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Speaker 5: So you know, these are the paper people.
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Speaker 10: If I put a profile around them, not an FBI profile,
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Speaker 10: but I know enough of them to speak about how
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Speaker 10: these people.
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Speaker 5: Become it can become emboldened, emblazoned.
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Speaker 10: It's both feeding the ego as well as also just
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Speaker 10: their ability to control things. So they like to be
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Speaker 10: able to control everything, whether it's the deal or people.
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Speaker 1: Yes, what I got a superceeding indictment. I bet that's
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Speaker 1: making Nima Ramani just clench because when you see the
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Speaker 1: FEDS have a superseding indictment, this is for conspiracy to
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Speaker 1: commit sex trafficking on these rich brats. That means, hey,
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Speaker 1: we had one go at you, but we're not We're
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Speaker 1: issuing a revised, a new and improved indictment with more charges.
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Speaker 1: It supersedes the previous indictment. Yeah, they may be rolling
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Speaker 1: in money, but apparently the FEDS don't care so exactly.
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Speaker 1: Who are the so called real estate Bros.
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Speaker 4: There are three Alexander brothers. Two of the brothers are
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Speaker 4: twins Or and Alan, their older brother Tall. Tall and
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Speaker 4: Or and Alexander are known in the world of high
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Speaker 4: priced real estate, having broken to a forty nine million
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Speaker 4: dollar deal for their dad in twenty twelve and a
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Speaker 4: two hundred and forty million dollar deal for a Manhattan
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Speaker 4: condos sale in twenty nineteen. While Orn's twin brother, Alan
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Speaker 4: attended law school before joining the family's private security company,
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Speaker 4: Kent Security.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace. The so called realty Brothers,
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Speaker 1: the Alexander brothers already facing charges of sex trafficking handed
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Speaker 1: down by Grand Jury Manhattan, they are now facing more
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Speaker 1: sex crimes, including against an underage girl. Now, these additional
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Speaker 1: women and the little girl are not named in the
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Speaker 1: superseding indictment, but I do know this. They represent just
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Speaker 1: a fraction of the dozens of women that prosecutors say
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Speaker 1: the brothers use their status, their prestige, their money, their
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Speaker 1: wealth to lure to drug and sex assault, going back
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Speaker 1: two decades, all the way to high school. Wow, okay,
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Speaker 1: what do we know?
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Speaker 11: In a fifteen million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the
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Speaker 11: Alexander twins Orin and Elon, celebrate their twenty eighth birthday.
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Speaker 11: Celebrants are greeted by a nearly naked woman on display
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Speaker 11: as a toy for the rich and famous to play
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Speaker 11: with as they take turns. Dripping hot wax, the woman
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Speaker 11: setting the tone for the decade, a night that awaits
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Speaker 11: those who are rich enough and or famous enough to
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Speaker 11: be invited to the Alexander twins birthday.
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Speaker 1: Pash, what am I hearing? Wait a minute. A fifty
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Speaker 1: million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the real estate bros
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Speaker 1: celebrate their twenty eighth birthday celebrates greeted by a nearly
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Speaker 1: naked woman on display as a toy for the rich
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Speaker 1: and famous to play with as they take turns dripping
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Speaker 1: hot wax on her. Deja vous? Huh does this remind
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Speaker 1: you of anything? Hi diddy, there you are nothing like
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Speaker 1: eating soushy off a naked lady on display for the
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Speaker 1: rich and famous. I mean it's like an echo chamber
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Speaker 1: in here. Well, guess what The Feds apparently in this
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Speaker 1: case anyway, don't care how rich you are, whether you're
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Speaker 1: eating sushi often naked lady at a luxury party, or
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Speaker 1: you have her on display so rich people can drip
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Speaker 1: wax on her. Listen to the US Attorney for the
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Speaker 1: Southern District Omni or.
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Speaker 3: The Alexander brothers, sometimes acting alone, sometimes with each other,
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Speaker 3: and sometimes with other men.
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Speaker 1: Forcibly raped and assaulted the women.
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Speaker 3: As the indictment alleges that Alexander Brothers sex trafficking agreement
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Speaker 3: went beyond the planned trips and events. On numerous occasions,
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Speaker 3: one or more of the defendants drugged and raped or
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Speaker 3: sexually assaulted women they encountered by chance at bars, at nightclubs,
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Speaker 3: social events, and dating apps.
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Speaker 1: These assaults allegedly.
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Speaker 3: Had many of the same hallmarks as the rapes that
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Speaker 3: occurred at group events, isolated locations, drug victims, force, and
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Speaker 3: physical restraint.
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Speaker 1: It's really a lot to take in. You know, very often,
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Speaker 1: as a former prosecute prosecuting nothing but violent felonies, I
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Speaker 1: would catch myself wondering why, for instance, why not just
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Speaker 1: date a woman and have a relationship and have sex
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Speaker 1: with her and not drug anybody and rape and sodomize
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Speaker 1: them in a party, in a party setting with a
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Speaker 1: lot of guys standing around. But then I realized, about
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Speaker 1: five years into that kind of thinking, why ask why?
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I had one job to seek the truth.
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Speaker 1: Who did, what, where, when? And why? Why not so
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Speaker 1: much to Karen Stark, renowned psychologists joining us, Karen, it's
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Speaker 1: not about sex. That's a simple answer for me. Why
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Speaker 1: don't the real estate bros with all their money and
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Speaker 1: all their high rise to just go date somebody and
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Speaker 1: have a sex life. It's not about the sex. What
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Speaker 1: is it?
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Speaker 7: It's a perversion, Nancy. They're getting off on raping, sateomizing.
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Speaker 7: A normal relationship the kind that you're referring to does
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Speaker 7: not excite them. They have gotten used to this kind
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Speaker 7: of rape and violence since they were in high school,
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Speaker 7: and this is what gets them excited.
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Speaker 5: Nothing else.
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Speaker 1: Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing. These wild, extravagant
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Speaker 1: parties that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars were not
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Speaker 1: parties at all. They were just a russ to find
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Speaker 1: sex assault victims for the new deities.
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Speaker 4: Listen, the fabulous parties with fabulous people might have been
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Speaker 4: a cover for something sinister pre planned by the Alexander brothers.
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Speaker 4: Each of the three brothers has been accused of forcible
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Speaker 4: rape by at least ten women. All three indicted on
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Speaker 4: federal charges of sex trafficking, while the twins aren't in
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Speaker 4: a lawn are charged with sexual battery and floce. The
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Speaker 4: Alexanders have denied the allegations in the civil cases, and
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Speaker 4: their reps have previously gone so far as to suggest
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Speaker 4: the accusers were trying to shake down the brothers.
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Speaker 1: Second verse, same as the first. Do I have to
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Speaker 1: say deja vu all over again? Why the real estate
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Speaker 1: bros Are called the new didties? Same thing now they
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Speaker 1: called it fabulous parties. Diddy calls it freakoffs.
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Speaker 3: Combs allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he
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Speaker 3: called freak offs, and he often electronically recorded them.
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Speaker 1: The freak offs.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes lasted days at a time, involved multiple commercial sex workers,
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Speaker 3: and often involved a variety of narcotics such as ketamine, ecstasy,
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Speaker 3: and GHB, which Combs distributed to the victims to keep
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Speaker 3: them obedient and compliant. As alleged, when Combs didn't get
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Speaker 3: his way, he was violent and he subjected victims of physical, emotional,
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Speaker 3: and verbal abuse so that they would participate in the freakofs.
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Speaker 1: To Christina Alaio, joining US investigative reporter and news anchor,
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Speaker 1: the comparison between the real estate Bros And Ditty are inescapable.
23:16
Speaker 1: They are.
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Speaker 6: They both are basically using their power and influence to
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Speaker 6: allegedly drug and rape women.
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Speaker 1: However, the brothers have been.
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Speaker 6: Doing this I think longer than Diddy, all the way
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Speaker 6: tracing back to high school. I think they were encouraged
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Speaker 6: to do it with their lifestyle, and they have been
23:31
Speaker 6: described as being very aggressive, very bullish, very attackive when
23:37
Speaker 6: it comes to working in business. And also you have
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Speaker 6: people from their high school years who are coming forward
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Speaker 6: saying that they did it in high school and people
23:44
Speaker 6: were scared everybody in the community was scared to speak
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Speaker 6: out because they had so much power, they had so
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Speaker 6: much prominence, because they had so much influence. And the
23:51
Speaker 6: same goes for Diddy. He has so much power and
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Speaker 6: so much money. People don't want to talk out against it.
23:56
Speaker 6: People are scared that their careers are going to be ruined,
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Speaker 6: that they're never going to be let back into the
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Speaker 6: music industry, that they'll be blacklisted from certain events.
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Speaker 1: And I think the same is true for the Brothers
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Speaker 1: crime stories. With Nancy Grace new charges for the so
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Speaker 1: called Realty Bros. The three men have pled not guilty
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Speaker 1: to initial charges and they'll soon be back in the
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Speaker 1: Manhattan courtroom to be arranged on the superseding indictment the
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Speaker 1: new charges. It all started when they were arrested in Florida,
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Speaker 1: and it shook up eye in real estate industry and
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Speaker 1: led to the downfall of or In. Alexander now thirty
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Speaker 1: seven tw Alexander thirty eight. Those two were the so
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Speaker 1: called real estate Royalty. In fact or an intel, Alexander
24:52
Speaker 1: helped broke the sale of a two hundred and forty
24:55
Speaker 1: million dollar Manhattan penthouse. Wow. Then they co founded their
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Speaker 1: own real estate brokerage company called Official now along Alexander
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Speaker 1: thirty seven. The other brother, the other twin did not
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Speaker 1: work in real estate, but he socialized with the two brothers.
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Speaker 1: I guess just enough to get to catch a little
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Speaker 1: sex trafficking charge. Okay, what do we know?
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Speaker 2: The Alexander brothers await rape charges in jail. As a
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Speaker 2: New York federal judge deems the trio flight risks, they're
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Speaker 2: extradited to the same jail as Ditty as the Metropolitan
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Speaker 2: Detention seter lose.
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Speaker 1: The Alexander Brothers is so called real estate bros rolling
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Speaker 1: in money, also called the new Ditties. All of their
25:43
Speaker 1: trouble started, well, it really started all the way back
25:46
Speaker 1: in high school when they're accused of sex assaulting women
25:49
Speaker 1: all the way back then. But the current day problems
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Speaker 1: i e. Their rape charges all started when one woman out.
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Speaker 1: According to prosecutors, the rapes and sex assaults have been
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Speaker 1: going on for years and years and years until this
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Speaker 1: woman spoke out.
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Speaker 4: Listen, The Alexander Brothers fall from grace begins when the
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Speaker 4: Real Deal reports on damning lawsuits brought by alleged victims
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Speaker 4: Kay Wyman and Rebecca Mandel Wyman alleges the brothers abducted
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Speaker 4: her in twenty twelve and brought her to a Hampton's
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Speaker 4: party palace in Watermill, Long Island, where the brothers allegedly
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Speaker 4: dragged her into a large bedroom where she was sexually assaulted, abused, raped, pinned, groped, harassed, battered,
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Speaker 4: and fondled by a lawn and or in Alexander, Isn't
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Speaker 4: it amazing?
26:39
Speaker 1: Linn saw joining us in Whn's Warriors, how it only
26:43
Speaker 1: takes one person, one person to stand up and be counted,
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Speaker 1: one person to speak out, even though they may be
26:51
Speaker 1: afraid for the whole house of cards to fall down.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, but we have to educate everybody that we will
26:58
Speaker 9: give you safety, we will give you guard rails, we will.
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Speaker 1: Stand next to you.
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Speaker 9: That is what I'm hoping all of these dirty ditties
27:04
Speaker 9: and this Alexander Brothers crime family will bring more public
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Speaker 9: awareness again watering down to you know, maybe that team
27:12
Speaker 9: that lives in the Bronx or something like that, that
27:15
Speaker 9: they can come forward. We will take care of them.
27:17
Speaker 9: But I want to point something out. There was so
27:19
Speaker 9: much video evidence here and I want to go back
27:22
Speaker 9: to what happened with all those videos where they uploaded
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Speaker 9: to porn sites. Was there millions of dollars? Because we
27:30
Speaker 9: do a lot of work with this.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Lynn Shaw, hold on, you're exactly right
27:34
Speaker 1: straight out to Christina at Yo joining US news anchor
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Speaker 1: and investigative reporter. What are these so called trophies of
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Speaker 1: the real estate bros That has just have just been revealed?
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Speaker 6: Yes, well, it's one thing to have a witness testimony, right,
27:48
Speaker 6: but it's an entirely different situation when you have video evidence.
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Speaker 6: As we just saw with the Cassie and Ditty situation.
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Speaker 6: Prosecutors and investigators rated tell Alexander's Manhattan apartment and they
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Speaker 6: found a hard drive filled with pictures and videos. They're
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Speaker 6: saying in these videos, of course, there's the quote unquote
28:07
Speaker 6: orgys or the sessions where alleged rape is happening. They
28:10
Speaker 6: are saying that women can be seen highly intoxicated on
28:14
Speaker 6: alcohol or maybe even drug. They're saying they're seeing in
28:18
Speaker 6: these videos where the brothers are physically manipulating these women's
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Speaker 6: bodies to have sex with them. And most of the time,
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Speaker 6: they're saying, these women do not know they're being recorded.
28:28
Speaker 6: There's this one incident that they explain that a woman
28:30
Speaker 6: and a man are having sex in a stall and
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Speaker 6: another person is recording over the stall with a camera,
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Speaker 6: and when the woman sees it, she protests, she says no.
28:38
Speaker 6: So it's going to be pretty difficult. For whatever reason
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Speaker 6: they kept these videos or they have these videos, it's
28:44
Speaker 6: going to be difficult to defend this in court.
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Speaker 1: Christina, you stated that one of the videos was taken
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Speaker 1: over a stall. What yep, So a.
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Speaker 6: Man and a woman were having sex. It didn't detail
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Speaker 6: if that was forced rape. It didn't detail what that
28:56
Speaker 6: was exactly. But there is a third person who is
28:59
Speaker 6: holding of video camera up over the bathroom stall where
29:03
Speaker 6: the woman and man are inside of that stall having sex,
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Speaker 6: and the woman sees a camera. She tells them to stop,
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Speaker 6: and they don't stop. And that's what prosecutors are saying.
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Speaker 6: They're not listening to these women. They're manipulating their bodies,
29:14
Speaker 6: and they won't stop when the women are asking them
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Speaker 6: to stop.
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Speaker 1: Trophies trophies to Nima Romani, joining US former federal prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: president of West Coast Trial Warriors, author of Harvard to
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Speaker 1: Hashtag's Nima Trophies have been the undoing of so Manique
29:32
Speaker 1: criminals explained, Oh.
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Speaker 8: It's great evidence if you're a prosecutor because people can lie.
29:37
Speaker 8: Criminal infendants lie all the time, even witnesses and victims
29:40
Speaker 8: can sometimes lie.
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Speaker 1: But video doesn't lie.
29:42
Speaker 8: And when you have video of these sex acts, that
29:46
Speaker 8: is the best evidence when you're a prosecutor, because really
29:49
Speaker 8: there's only two defenses in any sex trafficking case. Either
29:52
Speaker 8: the sexual activity didn't happen or it was consensual. That's it.
29:57
Speaker 8: And once you have that video, it's certainly takes away
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Speaker 8: the first defense, and then when women are being drugg
30:03
Speaker 8: takes away the second as well. And there's really two
30:06
Speaker 8: reasons why people record these sex acts. The first is
30:09
Speaker 8: their own deviant sexual pleasure, and I think that's probably
30:13
Speaker 8: why Diddy was recording his freak offs. But there's the
30:16
Speaker 8: second reason, and that is to have control over the victims,
30:20
Speaker 8: potentially blackmail them and say, hey, if you come after me,
30:24
Speaker 8: I'm going to leak these videos.
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Speaker 1: Christina and Wyo. Isn't it true that these videos were
30:28
Speaker 1: pulled off of a hard drive that was found hidden
30:32
Speaker 1: in a closet during a federal search.
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Speaker 6: Yes, in Tall Alexander's Manhattan apartment, So they were really searching.
30:39
Speaker 1: They had the warrant to go through everything, and he
30:41
Speaker 1: kept them.
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Speaker 6: He kept them on a hard drive. And it's not
30:43
Speaker 6: just videos, it's pictures as well, and it goes to
30:46
Speaker 6: show that just like he said, men, women light witnesses
30:50
Speaker 6: lie perhaps, but the video is not going to lie.
30:52
Speaker 6: And this is pretty tough evidence. However, the defense is
30:55
Speaker 6: already saying this doesn't prove anything. This doesn't prove a
30:57
Speaker 6: commercial act. This doesn't prove that they were drugged. It
31:01
Speaker 6: may prove that they're intoxicated, but he's saying, oh, these
31:03
Speaker 6: are just big orgies. Everybody was willing and there is
31:06
Speaker 6: nothing going on here, So next story, please, you know.
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Speaker 1: It reminds me. In the last few days, Shawn Combs
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Speaker 1: aka Diddi's defense team has stated they want the free
31:17
Speaker 1: coll videos to be made public because it quote proves
31:20
Speaker 1: his innocence. Okay, sure, you know another thing. If it's
31:26
Speaker 1: so innocent, why was it hidden in a closet. But
31:29
Speaker 1: thinking about the videos, the trophies pulled from a hard
31:32
Speaker 1: drive in the real estate bro's closet, it reminds me
31:36
Speaker 1: of a certain raid that went down on Shawn Combs's mansion.
31:41
Speaker 1: In that case, as well, Bill Daily former FBI trophies quote.
31:48
Speaker 1: Trophies were obtained during that raid. Bill Daily video equipment
31:54
Speaker 1: was reportedly discovered, along with over one thousand bottles of
31:59
Speaker 1: lubricant baby oil. Trophies have been the bane of many
32:04
Speaker 1: criminals existence why trophy well, you.
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Speaker 10: Know, and as if you go to other kind of
32:09
Speaker 10: repeat offenders, repeat criminals such as Dennis Raider, the bund
32:14
Speaker 10: torture kill fiend, you know, they either keep pieces of clothing,
32:19
Speaker 10: they keep some something to remind them, something that's going
32:22
Speaker 10: to get them excited.
32:23
Speaker 5: Something's going to you know.
32:25
Speaker 10: Make them remember how how wonderful it was that they
32:28
Speaker 10: controlled this person, that they did what they did.
32:30
Speaker 5: And so for all these things, it's.
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Speaker 1: Some way, are you putting perfume on the pig daily,
32:35
Speaker 1: that's not like you. The souvenirs, the trophies quote get
32:39
Speaker 1: them excited. You may give them an erection.
32:42
Speaker 5: Well, you know that as well as sharing among other
32:44
Speaker 5: people being able to.
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Speaker 10: In some cases they like to share it because they've
32:48
Speaker 10: they've had this experience with other people.
32:50
Speaker 5: They keep it.
32:51
Speaker 10: They look at themselves, you know, maybe other people. They
32:54
Speaker 10: let them see that that all kind of gives them
32:56
Speaker 10: a sense of control. It goes back to that essence
32:59
Speaker 10: of controlling individuals, controlling their environment, doing what they want
33:03
Speaker 10: to do, using that leverage over people. You know, in
33:06
Speaker 10: this case, Nancy, in a very interesting point it came up,
33:08
Speaker 10: which is simply what we've seen in other cases, is
33:10
Speaker 10: that as the FBI is investigating this, reports are coming
33:13
Speaker 10: out that multiple victims have.
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Speaker 5: The same stories.
33:16
Speaker 10: Again, people who've been not connected, not there at the
33:18
Speaker 10: same place, same time, but have the same story to tell.
33:21
Speaker 10: All of that is exttreming and as part of what
33:24
Speaker 10: I believe the FBI is and the US the Attorney's
33:27
Speaker 10: Office is making their case out of is that they
33:29
Speaker 10: have statements and it would encourage people.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm very curious, Bill Daily. I think this
33:34
Speaker 1: goes beyond your or my kin colloquial for understanding joining
33:40
Speaker 1: me psychologist Karen Stark. Everything Bill Daily said is correct,
33:46
Speaker 1: But what is the reason, the mental or the psychological
33:50
Speaker 1: reason that people like Dennis Raider or in this case,
33:54
Speaker 1: the real estate bros also called the rape bros. But
33:57
Speaker 1: those are just accusations. Why keep all these videos they're damning.
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Speaker 7: It's a wonderful way for them to relive the crime.
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Speaker 7: Nancy and whatever got them off when they were doing it,
34:10
Speaker 7: whatever got them excited and gave them erections and orgasms.
34:14
Speaker 7: They can do that all over again repeatedly because they
34:19
Speaker 7: have these trophies. It's great if it's a video, but
34:22
Speaker 7: it can be an airing, It could be a necklace,
34:25
Speaker 7: it could be a piece of clothing. It doesn't matter.
34:28
Speaker 7: They wind up reliving the excitement that they felt at
34:32
Speaker 7: the time and how much they controlled the situation.
34:39
Speaker 1: For years.
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Speaker 3: The Alexander brothers, sometimes with others, also arranged domestic and
34:45
Speaker 3: international trips to carry out their sex trafficking scheme. To
34:49
Speaker 3: recruit and induce women to come on the trips, they
34:52
Speaker 3: provided material benefits, things like travel to vacation destinations, luxury accommodations,
34:58
Speaker 3: and access to other high end experience.
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Speaker 1: Are the claims true? Should I believe the Real estate Bros?
35:05
Speaker 1: Or should I believe all of the women now coming forward,
35:09
Speaker 1: some of them named in federal indictments, others filing civil suits.
35:15
Speaker 1: What's very hard for many people to understand, including myself,
35:19
Speaker 1: is how the Real Estate bros. Acted, how they faked
35:25
Speaker 1: a happy home life.
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Speaker 4: Listen, the Alexander brothers are all married now, Alahn married
35:31
Speaker 4: Shaney Zigrin, with whom he has two children, in May
35:34
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty. Or In married model Camilla Hanson in
35:37
Speaker 4: April twenty twenty three, and Tall married Ariel Cogt in
35:41
Speaker 4: October of twenty twenty three. Or In pleaded with a
35:44
Speaker 4: judge to let him out as his wife was pregnant
35:47
Speaker 4: and do any day. His request was denied.
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Speaker 1: That's something the baby can say as it grows up.
35:53
Speaker 1: Dad was in jail on rape charges when I was born.
35:56
Speaker 1: This whole facade of a happy family again, it's diddy
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Speaker 1: Rediu listen, be happy.
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Speaker 5: Two of you get on the phone.
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Speaker 1: To veteran try a lawyer, former felanty prosecutor Nima Ramani Nima.
36:22
Speaker 1: It would not be the first time a so called
36:26
Speaker 1: family man was ultimately convicted of repeat offenses. I mean,
36:32
Speaker 1: there's dentist raider that Bill Dialey brought up earlier, who
36:35
Speaker 1: would sex assault and kill so many women and including
36:40
Speaker 1: young girls on his dog catching route the whole time.
36:44
Speaker 1: He had a family at home and he was a
36:46
Speaker 1: deacon in the church. Uh, then you've gotten Gaysey John
36:51
Speaker 1: Wayne Gacy, who would go to children's birthday parties to
36:55
Speaker 1: entertain the children dressed as a clown. I don't know
36:58
Speaker 1: how many boy's bodies were pulled out of his crawl space.
37:02
Speaker 1: Then you got Ted Bundy, who seemingly was a successful
37:06
Speaker 1: law school student. He's a serial killer. He goes on
37:11
Speaker 1: and on, and do I have to say Rex Huerman,
37:14
Speaker 1: the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room, the architect
37:18
Speaker 1: by day, serial killer by night, with a wife and
37:21
Speaker 1: two children.
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Speaker 8: Nancy and Human's wife actually saw some of these sex acts,
37:25
Speaker 8: at least allegedly, so this question of what she knew,
37:27
Speaker 8: But this is criminal defense lawyering one on one. They
37:30
Speaker 8: want to show the jurors that the defendant has family support.
37:34
Speaker 8: That's why you see Ditty's family at every single appearance.
37:38
Speaker 8: That's why I fully expect the Alexander brothers to have
37:41
Speaker 8: their parents, the wives who haven't filed divorce to be
37:45
Speaker 8: at those court proceedings, because that's what jurors expect. They
37:48
Speaker 8: want to see the family members supporting the folks who
37:51
Speaker 8: are accused and are on trap.
37:54
Speaker 1: And like Didty, the new Ditties have a fantastical scheme
37:59
Speaker 1: of how they're going to stay out of MDC Metropolitan
38:02
Speaker 1: Detention Center.
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Speaker 4: Listen, in a crazy bid to keep their boys out
38:06
Speaker 4: of incarceration, the parents of the Alexander brothers have offered
38:09
Speaker 4: to provide private imprisonment. In a real proposal to authorities,
38:13
Speaker 4: Shlomo and Orly Alexander proposed confining the brothers to a
38:17
Speaker 4: two bedroom apartment on the eighth floor of a Miami building,
38:20
Speaker 4: emphasizing the apartment is non waterfront and non luxury. They
38:24
Speaker 4: promised security guards would be stationed around the clock and
38:27
Speaker 4: an alarm system would make sure the brothers remain on site.
38:30
Speaker 4: The parents also offered to put up to one billion
38:33
Speaker 4: dollars bail for their sons to get out of jail.
38:35
Speaker 1: In case you didn't get that, it's one billion as
38:38
Speaker 1: in brother biz in brother, not million billion. The parents
38:43
Speaker 1: offering to put up one billion dollars cash to get
38:50
Speaker 1: their sons out of jail. Maybe they were going to
38:54
Speaker 1: put in some equity into that, but one billion dollars
38:59
Speaker 1: bail to get their sons out and having them imprisoned
39:04
Speaker 1: in a Miami high rise. And the suffering part was
39:08
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't get a beach front view ouch. That
39:13
Speaker 1: has to hurt. How dare you mommy and daddy Christina, Yo,
39:19
Speaker 1: it's reminiscent of the last bid, well the last three
39:22
Speaker 1: bids by Sean Combs to get out on bid where
39:26
Speaker 1: he offered the judge a multimillion dollar bill package I
39:30
Speaker 1: think it was twenty mel and he would stay in
39:33
Speaker 1: a Manhattan town home with his own private security guards
39:36
Speaker 1: to keep him from raping people. Eerie echo, right, And
39:42
Speaker 1: that's the draw, right exactly.
39:45
Speaker 6: I promised not to rape anybody during this time. I
39:48
Speaker 6: promised that I'm not going to have any orgies.
39:50
Speaker 1: In fact, I.
39:50
Speaker 6: Won't even have any women over so that in and
39:53
Speaker 6: of itself is a huge punishment. This is the same
39:56
Speaker 6: thing that we're seeing with these brothers, And quite frankly,
39:58
Speaker 6: I don't know how much the pay parents can be
40:00
Speaker 6: trusted in this whole situation because we talk about pretending
40:03
Speaker 6: to have a perfect family. But I go back to
40:05
Speaker 6: the sex bus that was sitting outside of their forty
40:08
Speaker 6: million dollar home as the brothers were in high school,
40:12
Speaker 6: and people have said witness testimony, they are saying that
40:15
Speaker 6: back in those days that women in the scene in
40:17
Speaker 6: the Miami scene because for some reason high school brothers
40:20
Speaker 6: were in the Miami scene. They were warned not to
40:23
Speaker 6: drink any drinks that came from the brothers and to
40:25
Speaker 6: stay away from the brothers.
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Speaker 11: The Alexander brothers are accused of using their wealth and
40:29
Speaker 11: positions to create and facilitate opportunities to rape and sexually
40:33
Speaker 11: assault women. So far, more than forty women have come
40:36
Speaker 11: forward accusing the three Alexander brothers of sexual misconducts, and
40:40
Speaker 11: investigators are asking other women who believe they have been
40:43
Speaker 11: assaulted to call. Attorneys for the brothers say they plan
40:47
Speaker 11: to plead not guilty to the charges, which, if convicted,
40:50
Speaker 11: could lend all three brothers in prison for life.
40:52
Speaker 1: As we are discussing these alleged acts, sex assault, right sodomies,
40:57
Speaker 1: that's what we're saying. Reportedly date all the way back
41:02
Speaker 1: to when the real estate brose were in high school.
41:06
Speaker 12: Listen as news of the arrests start to spread, stories
41:09
Speaker 12: from the Alexander brothers high school years come to light.
41:12
Speaker 12: Their history of sexual violence dates back decades to their
41:16
Speaker 12: high school days in Miami, where they bragged about several
41:19
Speaker 12: gang rapes. Prosecutors say each of the victims that the
41:22
Speaker 12: government has interviewed from this period reported hearing that individuals involved,
41:27
Speaker 12: including Tal Alexander, talked about the assaults at school boasting
41:31
Speaker 12: about running train on their victims and saying they wanted
41:35
Speaker 12: to do it again.
41:36
Speaker 1: You know, Lynn Shaw, as many rape and sodomy cases
41:41
Speaker 1: that I've investigated, I have tried, have pled out to
41:46
Speaker 1: jail time, have covered, it's still it's disgusting. It just
41:55
Speaker 1: makes something and you want to die to hear about
41:58
Speaker 1: them bragging about quote running train on the victims, which
42:03
Speaker 1: means multiple rapists on one victim, saying they quote wanted
42:06
Speaker 1: to do it again. It never ceases to be heartbreaking
42:13
Speaker 1: that a victim would go through this.
42:16
Speaker 9: Well, we can't die, Nancy. We have to stand for
42:18
Speaker 9: those that don't have a voice. And I want us
42:21
Speaker 9: to focus on two things here. I want us to
42:23
Speaker 9: focus on where was mama Alexander. We're talking about a
42:26
Speaker 9: sex bus when these trio of triplets, dirty ditty triplets
42:30
Speaker 9: were right part right in front of their multimillion dollar mansion.
42:35
Speaker 9: I'm telling you, as a mother, I knew when my
42:37
Speaker 9: kids moved a throw pillow on my couch. Where were
42:40
Speaker 9: the parents at this time and throughout all of this?
42:43
Speaker 9: The second thing I want to and we have to
42:45
Speaker 9: talk about that because people have to start standing up.
42:47
Speaker 9: Where were these parents? They were the talk of the town.
42:50
Speaker 9: We're hearing, you know, in the Miami, Florida area, So we.
42:53
Speaker 1: Should focus on that.
42:54
Speaker 9: I also want to focus on you're not going to
42:55
Speaker 9: see their wives in court with them. Those women are
42:57
Speaker 9: taking their kids and running for the hills. One is
43:00
Speaker 9: already filed for divorce. Okay, they're going to turn evidence
43:03
Speaker 9: on them. They're beautiful young women, they have some young children,
43:06
Speaker 9: a newborn baby. They're not sticking around for this. And
43:09
Speaker 9: the third thing I want to get back to we're
43:10
Speaker 9: not talking enough about is that oldest brother with his
43:13
Speaker 9: security firm. There is video evidence. Where are all those
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Speaker 9: videos going? I guarantee, I hope we have a forensic
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Speaker 9: accountant coming along. That they have been uploaded not only
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Speaker 9: to control their victims and to scare them, they have
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Speaker 9: been uploaded to porn sites where these monsters make millions
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Speaker 9: and millions of.
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Speaker 1: Dollars across the globe. And these are things we should
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Speaker 1: be looking at. Of course, the parents aren't charged with anything.
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Speaker 1: All three Realty Bros. Are being held in a federal
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Speaker 1: detention center in Brooklyn waiting trial. The judge Valerie E.
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Speaker 1: Caproni has set the trial for January. Now two of
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Speaker 1: them or in an alaon. Alexander also face state six
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Speaker 1: trafficking charges in Florida. Everybody has pled not guilty. Now
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Speaker 1: the defense attorneys all claim these new charges quote changes nothing,
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Speaker 1: calling it a reheated version of the same case. Okay, wait,
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Speaker 1: let Jerry years about an underage girl getting sex trafficked. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's on you. We wait as justice un false. Goodbye friend,