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6. Dr. Tim Young - Chiropractic is about who you are · In Tune Podcast

• Dr. Nick Harvey: Welcome to the In Tune Podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Nick Harvey a chiropractor from Australia. This podcast is focused on getting deep with chiropractors globally and understanding their journey, their why, and what shaped them to be the chiropractors they are today. So come with me as we interview some great people within our profession so we can push chiropractic forwards. Nick Harvey: My guest today is a chiropractor from Oklahoma City and the founder of Focus OKC and Focus Foundations. He's taught his adjusting to more than a thousand chiropractors across 30 countries. He's also the author of The Millionaire Chiropractor, and he's one of my great mentors. Dr. Tim Young, welcome to Intune. Tim Young: I appreciate you. Thanks for having me, Nick. This is a quite an honor to be able to spend time with you. Nick Harvey: Me too, me too. I really appreciate you being here and giving your time for this podcast. And I'm excited to get into your journey. I've obviously heard bits and pieces and myself being a member of Focus Foundations, listen to a lot of your story and it's very inspiring. And that's where I'd like to get started with you today, Tim, is how did that chiropractic journey start for you? Tim Young: Yeah. Yeah, you know, my s i it's interesting. I w I was on the phone early this morning here in Oklahoma with a young a young man who who was in chiropractic school and he dropped out. 'Cause he he wasn't getting the information. He just didn't know if that's what he wanted to be. And someone told him to call me and and it's fascinating that one of the reasons he didn't understand chiropractic, he had never been to a chiropractor, he didn't have a chiropractic story. So he didn't even know why he wanted to be a chiropractor. But I was different. I have a story. And my story started back When I very young, probably in a fourth or fifth grade in in my uncle was a chiropractor in Springfield, Missouri, where I'm originally from. And, you know, his Uncle Bill and I would go in and get adjusted for bike wrecks and sports things and just nothing major. and it was always just going to see Uncle Bill and get my back back pop, right? I didn't know anything about chiropractic and it was never on my radar. And when I was about 18 years old, I had just started lifting weights real heavy. I wanted to become a bodybuilder, and and I was always been real small and and I was you know lifting hard and putting on weight and starting to grow, and then I was in a serious car accident. Broke my back, my lower back, just really, really severely injured. And they'd done MRIs and they did all the medical experiments. This was back in 1980, 80, 1985, the fall of 1985. And they come in and say, look, we did MRIs, we've done some CTs of your lower back, you have you fractured it. we've got some bad news for you that you will your your weightlifting, heavy weightlifting days are over. You're not gonna be able to sustain that, and you will possibly limp for the rest of your life. You know, and that's crushing to an 18-year-old young man, you know, just getting started. And so when I got to where I could actually walk without help, I went to see my Uncle Bill, the chiropractor, and I told him what they said. And he kind of shook his head. Now he was a graduate of Cleveland Chiropractic School in 1966. So he was very old school. And he had a few choice words and he said, Lay down, and he started adjusting me. Six weeks later, I was back in the gym working out. Six months later, I won my first. bodybuilding, teenage bodybuilding show and I competed for twenty I think twenty five, twenty six years after that. But that planted a seed, and it gave me a story to where I saw firsthand that car what chiropractic could do, but then I had other plans and I had joined the US Navy. I was wanting to go be I wanted to go into Special Forces and and started having lots of lower back problems because of the extra training I was doing. And in night in the summer of 19 eighty-nine they told me that that they wanted to do exploratory back surgery on me in the Navy. And at that moment, God laid his hand on my shoulder and said, You're gonna be a chiropractor. And so I it was a it was a weird thing, Nick. I I I had not thought about it. It was not my game plan, it wasn't a backup plan, it was never even a conversation, but for whatever reason, at that moment, I knew when she said, Well, we can send you home if you don't want surgery, and I knew right then what I was gonna go do. I had no plan. I didn't, I had no experience in the profession. All I knew that this is what I was meant to do. So I get out of the Navy. I start my undergrad in the f in January of 1989, 19, I'm sorry, 1990, and I went straight through my undergrad at chiropractic school until I graduated and got out. So what's interesting is talking to the young man today, you know, in school, only reason he decided chiropractic school, he was He had to make a decision whether it was physicotherapy, medicine, dentistry. He had no clue why he was going to it, but I had a different calling. I was chosen in my heart, and I know this, I was chosen to be a chiropractor. And that's what got me into the profession. That's what led me down this path. And then from graduation on was a complete other story that I'm sure we'll get into. But that's what that's what got me in the profession in the first place. Nick Harvey: Yeah, wow. And I I can really resonate to feeling a calling into chiropractic. I've I've felt called for a very long time since I was very young. And for you to say you f you felt God put his hand on your shoulder and told you you were going to be a chiropractor, Tim Young: Yeah. Nick Harvey: what what was that like and and how did that come through? Tim Young: You know, Nick, it's it's interesting. I've told that story many times and I and and I I never do it justice. I I I have a hard time articulating in in words the experience. I was standing, I was standing at at a desk, and you know, I'm 22 years old. I'm standing at this desk in these in this naval medical building. This lady is sitting there, you know, typing and she's opened up, she opened up this file and she's reading it, and she's not even even looking at me. I'm just an another number, another sailor to her. And I'm standing there and she said, Well, it says here, you have this, you know, they they they know you have a problem, but they don't know what it is. So they're recommending exploratory back surgery. And then, you know, I, you know, this was so many years ago, but I I feel like it was yesterday, and I said, no ma'am. And she said, she then she acknowledged me. She turned and looked at me. She said, I'm sorry. She expected me to say, okay, you know, let's do this. And I said, No, you know, your exploratory of back surgery should never be put together. I was 22 years old. I didn't know anything, but I knew that wasn't right. And she said, Well, your only option is then we can send you home. And if at that moment, at that at that very moment, it was a it was a, I don't know, it was a peace, a knowing. And I just smiled and I said, send me home. And it and at that very moment. And it's hard for me to articulate and really express what was happening at that. You have to understand, I went from I wanted to be one thing, I thought I was gonna be Special Forces Navy, I was gonna be a a warrior, I was gonna be a soldier. And like that, no, you're gonna be a chiropractor. And and and again, I cannot stress to anybody listening this that to know me. There there was no there was no premeditated thoughts of chiropractic. It was never a conversation, it was never a thought. I never sat around and go, well, the Navy doesn't work out, I'll be a chiropractor. It's just at that moment I was I was it was a peace. It was a feeling of knowing and and and and confidence and and and just pure joy to be honest with you. I was I just smiled. I just said, send me home. And I knew I knew right then what I was gonna go do. And I just did it. I just I mean there was a lot of moving parts from that moment, you know, to get to school and all that. I mean, I a lot of hoops I had to jump through and a lot of things I had to accomplish. But at that very moment, the only way I describe it, the only way I can give it. the the true power of of of the moment was that i just felt like and and here's the thing i didn't go to church i it's not that i didn't believe in god or i what i just wasn't religious i didn't i i was again i was just gonna be a soldier i was none of this was like part of my my my consciousness but i felt it right i felt that i felt that i got you this is your this is this is where you're going And that's the only way I can describe it, Nick. Nick Harvey: That's really powerful. Really powerful. And you know, Tim, I I think you still are a warrior. I think you're a warrior for for chiropractic and I think you're a warrior for our principles and the and the standard and the sacred trust. And I see constantly what you post and the backlash you get online and I think Tim Young: Yeah. Nick Harvey: you know that that past is yeah, you you're a warrior for chiropractic. So thank you. We appreciate you. I wanna dive into your early Tim Young: go ahead. Nick Harvey: years of of Your your early years of of university, of of college and I know coming out of chiropractic school, your first few jobs were were very tough too. And Tim Young: Yeah. Nick Harvey: I'd love for you to share what that experience was like. Tim Young: Yeah, so you know, getting through chiropractic school, I was I was so fortunate, very, very blessed to have had a teacher, Dr. Hugo Gibson, who was my mentor, my teacher, he became a very close friend of mine. he I was introduced to him at my very first year of chiropractic school, my very first technique, they called it full spin meric. I see some people call it toggle. but he Dr. Gibson was the the most pure form of a chiropractor of anyone I've ever met to this day. And I was very fortunate to have had him as a teacher and I learned the principles from him. and I and I was learning things that I didn't even know I was learning. You know, when you're in school you don't know what you don't know. You're just trying to survive. You're passing your tests and you're just making it through. And I wasn't the best student. I didn't like school. I was there because I was supposed to be, but you know, I wasn't a great student. But I but he spoke into me and I and I And I, you know, planted those seeds of of our principles and our philosophies. And and he was it was he was a master adjuster, you know, and so technique was everything to me. I was never gonna make a A on an anatomy or a neurotest, but I was gonna be able to adjust. I could use these. And so I graduated, I get out of school, started looking for a job. I struggled to pass all of my board tests. I finally passed enough to be able to practice. And I started looking for a job and and you know and I found my first you know, I had to move from Springfield, Missouri, which is about four hours northeast of where I'm sitting right now and from Oklahoma City. And that's where I grew up and I had at that time I had just met my wife. I'm twenty seven, she's twenty four and we're just kids and I ended up taking a job in Oklahoma City four hours away and and for one solid year I drove back and forth every weekend I'd leave Thursday night drive four hours and spend the weekend and then come back on Monday morning and work and we did that for about a year and then we At that time, you know, when I met her, she had two girls, you know, two and two and six, Alation actually, they're my girls now that I you know, I I you know, adopted them and took them in and we started a family and then she got pregnant with our first and so I'm working at my job and you know I go to my office one day and you gotta understand, I have a brand new wife. I got two brand new daughters and a baby on the way. I'm making very little, but we're surviving. I'm just learning, right? And I go to the office one day and I go to put my key in the lock of the office and the lock had been changed. It wouldn't work. And I walked around a corner to the front of the building where we were in a big office building, and the office building manager said, I've been waiting on you. They they they shut the practice down. They they had me change the locks and they closed the practice and they moved without telling me. So I have to go home and tell my brand new wife that I have no job, I have no money, I don't know what I'm gonna do. And just like The you know, you I you know, yeah, I I am a warrior, but my wife is even scarier warrior than I am. just like the true warrior that she is, she's she stood tall, she looked me in the eye, she said, We had nothing in the first place, so they can't take anything from us. You can't take something from nothing. And so I just started making phone calls and just kept looking, looking, looking, and I finally found another job. And so I went into this other job making less money. So if you can imagine everybody listening. Here, that you think you had it tough. Imagine being married with three kids and making $700 every two weeks, $350 a week raising a family of five. It was it was interesting, all right. It was and I did that for about a year. And but then here's the thing along the way, Nick, I had some really hard times. But at the same time, my wife and I we were very strong and we raised those kids, our kids, and we put our priorities first, and we We we we did it as a team, but then I always, always, always kept chiropractic, I kept the principles in my mind. I I constantly was going to the office and I might only see six in a day, eight patients in a day. But those six and eight patients got a hundred percent of who I was. Every time I made an adjustment in my heart, I knew that my intention was was healing and and I knew what was possible. And then a little bit one adjustment at a time, my reputation started to spread. And at the end of that first year with that new job, I was seeing more patient visits than a doctor I was working for who'd been in practice for 30 years. I I passed him. And then I get a phone call and then I get doctor had called me they had a another clinic that was had a big volume clinic and hired me and recruited me in and and then all of a sudden I'm making fifty thousand dollars a year. This is 1998 and my gosh I was rich and we we bought our we bought two vehicles instead of just one used one we had a a big screen TV I mean we were living large at fifty thousand dollars a year, you know, and it was it was pretty interesting. And then then through a course of events I was contacted by a friend of mine that I went to chiropractic school and he said hey I'm I'm wanna I wanna invite you to go to a meeting with me. And it was flying to Chicago, it was all these things. Now we were doing pretty good. We were paying our bills but I didn't have enough money to go do all those things. He said listen all you gotta do is buy your plane ticket. You stay with me I'll take care of everything else. I'm making a very long story short, it was a a coaching group, a chiropractic coaching group, and I didn't even I didn't even know those existed. I hadn't even been a part of anything, I hadn't seen anything. I was just trying to figure all this out on my own. But then when I went to this coaching, this first meeting in Chicago, Illinois, and it was it was the winter of 1998. I had somebody tell me the answer. I, you know, I was in a room full of successful chiropractors. They were all wearing Armani suits that had Rolex watches on, and they're just the most successful people that I had ever been around ever in my life. And I, you know, and I talked to a couple of doctors that I knew from school that were there, and they're like, this is the place. I came home, I told my wife, I said, hey, I've got the answer. And within a few months, we opened our own practice, Young Chiropractic, in January 1999 and exploded from there. And it was quite the ride. And I was in that coaching group for 17 years. And then once the then the coaching group kind of went, the owner that ran it, the coach that ran it, he kind of went one direction. It didn't it didn't it wasn't where I wanted to go. It didn't fit into my integrity. And so I stepped out and when I stepped away, a large number of those doctors that I had worked with and helped through the years came to me and said, Hey, you have always been our coach. We want you to help us. And then that's how Focus got started as far as the coaching. That was kind of the that was kind of the you know the the the the catalyst from it, but those first really hard years when you're up against it financially and you're you know and you're not you have nowhere to turn you have no nobody to help you nobody to say hey I got an answer nobody I could call that's why I'm so very passionate today about being a coach and being able to help that's why I spent 30 minutes with a young man I've never met just a student that somebody said call me I will do anything I can to help a young chiropractor or help any chiropractor because I've been in a position there was no one to ask. I had no help. And so that's where my passion comes from doing what I do today is being in those situations where things are really, really hard and there's nowhere to turn. After 30 years and doing this, I I have a lot of answers and I'm very passionate about helping the profession now. Dr. Nick Harvey: Hey guys, I just wanted to quickly let you know I'm going to be running two-day adjusting seminars across Australia and New Zealand at the end of 2026 and into 2027. They're going to be two days of going deep into what I believe are the fundamental principles of adjusting: holding a high intention, getting deep with your presence, adjusting from positions of ease, and most of all, expressing the art at its highest form. If you're interested, there's a link below in the show notes, or you can go to www. inflowartistry.com.au. All right, back into it. Nick Harvey: That's really powerful. Really powerful. And I'm sure we'll get a lot deeper into a lot of your experience and I'm sure you know a lot of what young docs are struggling with at the moment and what the what they're coming to you with on a regular basis. And before we get into that, I'd really love to take it back to the what you learned in that coaching conference or coaching group that that really changed your practice. What was it that they were doing different that you weren't already doing? Tim Young: Well, so it's a great question. No one's actually ever asked me that, Nick. You know, when I look back, one of the things was what was possible. Right? What was possible. I I didn't know that was possible. See, my uncle was a chiropractor, but you know, he was what we call a country chiropractor. You know, he did pretty well, but you know, he saw twenty patients a day and he averaged about twenty dollars a visit and they just didn't spend any money. And so he, you know, quote unquote was successful, but That's all I knew. And then, you know, the chiropractors that I graduated with, none of them were successful. They they were struggling. And so to be to get in a room full of other chiropractors, because I'm the one I'm kind of one of those, if if if you can do it, I can do it. You know, as far as the same profession is so one the first thing I noticed was, well, wait a minute, they're all doing it. And then I started digging into the how. Nick, you gotta understand, I didn't know how to do a proper consultation, a proper exam. I wasn't putting people on long-term reported findings. I don't want to call long-term treatment plans, but I had no I had no understanding of allowing the body to actually heal long term. I didn't understand how to run a practice. Like there was no, there I had no system. I mean, I had done this for the first three years as an associate. There was no system. you know, at all. the last one I was in a personal injury clinic and the system w the the doctors that I worked for said, listen, if there's you know, over here in the States, if there's X if there's three thousand dollars worth of car damage, you see them this many times, you make sure the bill's this high. That was the system and I never did buy into that, but that was all I was ever taught. And so then when I joined this coaching group for the first time ever, I had a floor plan. I knew I knew how big my office should be. I knew how to set it up. I knew how to do a consultation, an exam, a report, I knew how to read an x-ray. And so they this coaching taught me how to systematize the business of chiropractic. No one had ever showed me that before. And and then through all the years I've taken that and I've streamlined it and perfected it into what I call focus foundations to where now we've got doctors in countries all over the world, from Sweden to Italy to Germany to you know you over in Australia. they're taking the system that I've refined through all those years and now put it into action and it just works because I've removed all the unnecessary things. But That's one of the main things I learned way back then was you have to have you have to have a game plan. A patient comes in to see you, you can't just say, you can't just listen to them and then adjust them once and expect anything to happen. You can't do a 30-minute exam or a 35 or 45 minute consultation. You can't spend 30 minutes with every patient when they come in to get an adjustment and expect to have enough time to see anybody. No one ever taught me that. And so I guess more than anything was the first thing it taught me was what was possible and then you know because success success leaves clues if I've got 300 doctors in this room and they're all s making 10 times what I'm making well I'm gonna listen to what they're doing you know I'm not gonna reinvent the wheel you know I tell this story a lot when I was when I when I first decided to be a bodybuilder you know I you know after you know that after that car accident I go into Gold's gym I find the biggest guy in the gym and I did what he did I mean why would you why would you do anything different, right? And and then, you know, that's that's how I learned to be a bodybuilder is from the guys that are already doing it successfully. And so you you emitate them. And then so I did the same thing in chiropractic. I found the most successful chiropractors. I did what they did. And and then once I once I accomplished a certain point in my career where I actually passed them in visits and and and collections and and when I when I superseded their their things, then then I started looking at, okay, well, you know, I don't want to stop here. I want to grow even more. So what do I have to do? So I kept learning, I kept learning, I kept applying. And you know, and I pretty well, you know, I went from, you know, as an associate saying, you know, 30 or 40 a week. You know, and then I started my own practice in 1999 and we opened brand new to all the way up to, you know, my record is 937 in three and a half days. You know, I was routinely would see 240 to 260 patient visits a day, right? And I and and there's no way you can do that. And what you have to understand is that was way before internet, that was way before social media, there was no zero marketing, it was all word-of-mouth referrals. and adjustments only and I charged for it. I collected 1.4, 1, 1.3, 1.4 million. So I wasn't like the old guys, you hear the the old doctors that that had all those big numbers, those a thousand, fifteen hundred, two thousand visits a week, which they're heroes of mine, they're giants. But what a lot of people don't understand is they had what was called the box on the wall. So they were averaging about two or three dollars a visit, right? And so if you give it away Well yeah, it's a whole lot easier to see that many, but I was actually charging for it. So I learned how to do it the right way. where you you're still helping a lot of people, you're very efficient, very effective, but you're also collecting, being very successful. Because it's like going to a restaurant. You don't go to a restaurant where there's one person there. You wanna go to a restaurant where it's you have to have a reservation to get in. Well, you don't wanna go to a chiropractor to see him twenty a week. you want to go to a chiropractor that has got their act together and seeing lots of people, then that's what we created. Nick Harvey: Yeah, wow. It's very inspiring. You're making me feel very young because I was born in nineteen ninety eight. So it's incredible. Tim Young: That's crazy. Yeah. Nick Harvey: what I want to get into and I I I read a lot of your posts and I see a lot of this and what you were just talking on from then. I know you get a lot from docs and I know some docs listening to this will go, How can you see that many people and still be providing high level care or or high Tim Young: Yep. Nick Harvey: value? And I wanna get into how do you ensure you're doing that at that level? Tim Young: Yeah. So one of the biggest questions I get asked or a lot of the biggest pushbacks that I get from chiropractors all over the world really, especially the ones that have never seen it or witnessed it is, you know, and they and their pushback is this, there's no way you can give good care and see that many people. You can't see a hundred, a hundred and fifty, two hundred, two hundred and fifty in a day and give quality care. And then my qu then I always ask this question, well, I here's the difference is I did it without advertising and marketing. People come to see me because somebody because they come to see me and I helped them, they went and told somebody else, they come to see me and they they they loved what I did and they went and told somebody else. I they came to see because they wanted to, not because they had to, or not because I tricked them or or did any kind of marketing. They they came in because I was delivering and giving them what they wanted. A lot of chiropractors, what they'll do is they deliver and give their patients what they think they want, not what the patient actually wants. And so I learned through the years that this is what patients truly want. They want you to answer four simple questions. What's my problem? Can you help me? How long will it take? And what will it cost? They just want you to answer those questions. And then I had another patient one time, she broke it down like this. She goes, Doc, you know what we want? And she just said this out of the blue. She said, We want you to it you know value our time, at least act like you care, and we want to get better. Well, she's what'd she say last? Getting better, what she say first, value their time. So chiropractors think that the people come to see them because they spend time with them and they talk to them. And yes, you will have a small few that want you to spend time and talk to them. That's where I'm different. I allowed those small few to go somewhere where other chiropractors could spend time and talk to them. I took of ever took care of everybody else that didn't want that. They wanted to get an adjustment. So Nick, what you have to understand and what chiropractors listening to this have to understand that we are chiropractors and what we do is we adjust our patients. We don't counsel them, we don't educate them, we don't do all those things. And one of the questions that I ask a lot of chiropractors, I said, Are you married? And they always say, Yeah. And I said, How long does it take you to adjust your wife? Well, about a about a minute. Okay, then why do you spend so much time With everybody else than you do with your wife, right? And and that's one of the things that it kind of got through to me years and years ago. The here's what we have to understand is we are not responsible for the outcome. We are only responsible for locating the misalignment, locating distress in the spine. Once we locate that, then we are responsible for introducing motion and maintaining that motion long enough to allow the body to heal. That is it as a chiropractor. That is all we're responsible for. But chiropractors in and people in general are very analytical. They want to, they want to. responsible they want to be responsible for so much more I'm their doctor I should teach them I'm their doctor I need to make sure that they heal I need to make sure that they get well and it is not our responsibility so the pushback I get is you can't give good care well define care Define care to be. Right? Your your definition of care and my definition of care are completely two different things. Right? If if you if you get shot with a with a gun and you have a bullet lodging your shoulder, you go to the emergency room, the doctor's not going to come in and spend an hour talking to you. He's going to say, prep them from surgery. He's going to remove the bullet, sew it up, and leave. He's not going to s sit around and talk to you for 25 minutes about. Your nutrition in the next three days, right? He's going to do his job. As a chiropractor, my job isn't to talk to you about your lifestyle, your nutrition. My job is not to stretch or worry about your soft tissue. My job is to locate stress in the spine caused by repetitive injury or one big injury. The restriction in the spine is the stress. Remove that restriction, remove that stress, and allow the body to function normally. That's my job. And it doesn't take very long to do that. And I've I've created a system where I can articulate and teach that and tell that to a patient where they understand it, and that's what they want, Nick. That's what most chiropractors don't understand, is that 90% what it is, 10% of the chiropractors in the world, they see 90% of the chiropractic patients, which means 10% of the chiropractic patients are being spread out and shared through the other 90% of the chiropractors. That's why the average chiropractor sees about 80 visits a week. I I've seen 62 in an hour. Right? And so what what Again, when when you create in your brain that something's not possible, you're absolutely right. You are right. You cannot give good care. You can. But if you get in your brain that yes, you can, you can see 30, 30, easily 30 patients an hour, including new patients, including reported findings, and give good care. And Nick, here's the thing, you know this because you've watched my videos. You've seen me do it on video. I'm the only one that does it. When you watch it in action, then you're like, well, there's A course is possible. A course is possible. So that's when I whenever I you know get any kind of pushback, a lot of chiropractors they just want to be right. So I just ask a simple question. Well, if I wasn't giving them what they wanted, why were they there in the first place? Why did they continue to show up after 30 years? And then I let them answer that question, and then they pretty well they pretty well answer their own questions after that. Nick Harvey: Couldn't agree more. You know, peop people that are paying that are continuing to come back, they're clearly seeing value in what you do. And the sheer fact that you have created that as a referral-based practice is so powerful and and so incredible. And that that shows volumes to the the value that you're providing in their life, clearly. So that's a very inspiring thing. One of your quotes that you talk a lot about in Focus Foundations is. The way you do anything is the way you do everything. And I remember you telling a story of you told a chiropractor in Sweden that he was having some struggles and he wasn't really honoring his wife. And you told him Tim Young: Yeah. Nick Harvey: that until he did his practice would always struggle. Can you can you share that story? Tim Young: Yeah, I'll share that story. That's a powerful story. I I talked to him on the phone not too long ago. I was I was out in in Sweden about two years ago and I did a little workshop and there was about ten chiropractors there and we did a workshop, we did, you know, philosophy principle procedures, office procedures, and then I did a a technique class the next day. And during the tech at lunch, during the technique class, young doctor said, Doc, you know, do you mind if I go to lunch with you? I I I really like to talk to you. So we're talking, and he's young and he says he's he says that he's struggling in practice. And I'm listening to him and he said I just can't get the numbers. I I'm just barely making enough money to keep my doors open. And I asked him a question. I said so Are you married? And he looked at me kind of confused and he said, Yeah. And he and he looked and he he he answered me in a way that he was confused why I was asking him that. And I said, Tell me about your marriage. And he his eyes got big and he said, Well Well, to be honest with you, doc, it's not good. He said, it's sh it's just not good. And he told me a story. And I won't go through all of the personal details, but basically what it went down was he was a professional athlete, young, good-looking Swede, professional athlete, met a girl, she got pregnant, they decided to get married, and then now she's got now they got another baby on the way, and he and he's sitting there and he's looking at me and he's saying, Doc, I didn't want to get married. I didn't I didn't I I I wasn't ready for all this. And I have some very, very deep rooted beliefs and priorities in my life. And I kind of let him have it a little bit. I I took him to task. I said, listen, it doesn't matter what you wanted, you you made a commitment, you made a vow, and you made a decision, and you need to honor that. She she deserves for you to step up and be a man. Your your kids deserve for you to step up and be a father. And I kind of went in deep on him. And he just started to cry. And I let him cry. I didn't tell him it was okay because he needed he needed to hear these things. And I and I said, until you get right with you as a man, and then you get right with the the most important person and part of your world. Which is the one that you're sharing this whole experience with, until you get that right. The version of you that walks into the office that lays hands on people is incomplete. And nobody wants that. So And that's and that's something that I teach everybody, and that's what every chiropractical hearingist needs to understand. When you step into your office, you are giving a piece of you. When you adjust, you're giving a piece of you, and you've got to make sure it's the finest example of who you are. And if you're not complete at home, you will never be complete in the office and you will always struggle. So I get a I I get a message from him about two weeks later, and he said he went home, he set his wife down, and he apologized, and they talked for hours. Hours and he said, My I he said, we work things out. And I went back to my office and he said, Doc, you're not gonna believe this. My practice has doubled. And to this day, I think he's tripled his practice. They his wife and him and his wife travel the world. They're just having the time of their life because he he had to get his priorities straight. You know what happens is when you live in contradiction, when you as a chiropractor, what you're called to be as a as a is a servant. and you and you are a caregiver and you love for the sake of loving. You don't love just because you receive, you love because that's what you do, that's who you are. And when you're at home and and you have all these expectations of something different and you live in contradiction, then you take that to the office, and then now you're living in contradiction there, and it doesn't, it doesn't work, it's not cohesive. So until you get right with you and get right at home, you can never create a successful practice. And so that's a perfect Example of somebody that figured that out really quick and he turned it around. We have an and one of the other doctors in Sweden, he is he joined, he was seeing 40 a week, he's seeing 240 a week. In one year, he's 5x'd his practice. it's pretty pretty pretty special what we get to do. And and and and and quite honest, Nick, what I'm doing. My priorities in and in life, my priorities in business, my priorities in my world, I just share with others. They come to me and ask my opinion, I'm gonna give it to them from what I've experienced. And that would that's a great example of somebody that got his priorities straight and now his practice is booming and he's doing great. Nick Harvey: Wow. Wow, it's incredible. And you you always say that your practice is a mirror. That the practice is a mirror into your Tim Young: It it you're Nick Harvey: life and and the way you live in. There you go. Tim Young: You know what I this is Nick, this is what I tell people all the time. This is what I've come to learn through all the years. In your practice, what you do is not near as important as who you are, because who you are Is a direct reflection in what you do. So when you show up with the right intention, you show up as a principle-based chiropractor, you show up passionate and in love with life, and you lay hands on somebody or you're just in the presence of somebody, your energy, your vibration is way up here. I I'm working on our next workshop and I just wrote this: that when you walk through the door, the energy in the building should rise just by you stepping through the door. And everyone will step up and into that that energy and vibration. But if you show up upset, down, depressed, you just got out of bed, unhealthy, don't even know why you're a chiropractor in the first place, you're just gonna go in and crack backs and hope they pay. Well then that's all the life you're ever gonna give. But if you show up intentional and principled, passionate on fire, there's nothing stopping a chiropractor. Dr. Nick Harvey: if you're a chiropractic student or a chiropractor and you're curious about how you might be able to improve your adjusting, I've created a free quiz on inflow artistry all about going deep into what I believe are the five most fundamental foundations of adjusting. It's completely free. It'll take you about 10 minutes to fill out, and it'll give you a detailed report of where you're doing well and where you might be able to improve. If you're interested, the link will be below in the show notes, or you can go to inflowartistry.com. dot-ayy-you slash quiz. Nick Harvey: Not agree more. I could not agree more. And something that you've said that sticks in my mind still when I'm walking down the street and I see a piece of rubbish laying on the side of the street, Dr. Tim Young: Yeah. Nick Harvey: Tim Young told me to always pick it up and be that person. So y your your voice is always in the back of my head, ev even going down the street. And it it's it's Tim Young: Yeah, I love that. Yeah. Nick Harvey: about the person you are when when no one's watching. Tim Young: That's it. That's it. That's called integrity. Nick. It's called integrity. And it's something that we need to give more we need to give more thought and conscience to. Nick Harvey: I agree, agree. You coach or and have coached thousands of chiropractors at this point. And Tim Young: Yep. Nick Harvey: I really want to get into what are the consistent struggles you're seeing at the moment through the profession. And you know what what's the way forwards for a lot of these chiropractors with these consistent struggles? Tim Young: the number one problem that I see in the profession is a identity crisis, a lack of understanding what we do. But like I you've heard me say many times, one of my my quotes, one of my sayings is our job as a chiropractor is to tell the truth and deliver on the truth. You can't tell the truth if you don't know what it is in the first place. There's our identity crisis. And the second thing is delivering on the truth is our technique. Most chiropractors have never been taught how to properly adjust. They think they have, but they really have not. you've taken my technique course and I'm sure there was, you know, and I say this very humbly and respectfully, but I'm sure it was a big wake up call, you know, whenever you watched me adjust and you felt me adjust, different from what you were what you've experienced previously. And I I actually learned from the true masters of the profession and chiropractors are just manipulating, manipulating and trying to get things to move in a very, very gross way and and they're wondering why they're not seeing the results. You know, when I talk about results, I'm talking about, you know, babies, children with asthma that that are say, you know, just conditions that you know, everyone else will say, don't touch, this is not a chiropractor case. I'm taking because everyone's a chiropractor case. And I think that the technique, so the number one, the number one problem that we have in the profession is the identity crisis. And number two is our technique is just not being taught appropriately. And I think we need to we need to work more on mastering becoming a chiropractor than we do the marketing and and all the things that go along with that. You know, y yeah, the you know, the technique technique is being the ball is being dropped. It's just manipulation and it's gotta be specific. You gotta you gotta know exactly where to where to adjust, how to adjust and why you're adjusting. Those those three things have gotta be mastered. and chiropractors don't take it serious. they just twist and manipulate. Nick Harvey: I think one of the the biggest things I took away from your seminar, Tim, was the specificity of of your adjustments and just how comfortable they were. And you your intention was clear, you were adjusting specifically where you intended to do. And I think the biggest issue I see, as you said before, in the profession at the moment is chiropractors are just trying to put a force into the body without any real intent or speci specificity. And they're not in they don't know how to adjust, they're not adjusting what they intend to adjust. You know, they're really just ripping on a lot of areas of the spine. And for me, that's not an adjustment. That's that's Tim Young: No. Nick Harvey: not what the adjustment is about. Could could you touch on how you learnt to to adjust the way you do and and and how you teach that now? Tim Young: Yeah, so it goes it start it goes all the way back to chiropractic school and I I I touched on it earlier a little bit with Dr. Gibson. You know, he was very specific and and back then we the x-rays that was before digital and we learned to line mark and we learned to look for the subluxation and we learned to you know actually pay attention to the spine itself. We had to learn every single detail of the spine. We had to learn facet angles, we had to learn, you know, the transverse process. We had to we actually had to be able to, you know, take an entire spine apart, put it in a box, shake it up, and put our hands in the back and pick up a vertebrae and and be able to feel it and tell which vertebra it was. I mean it was to know then know the spine was first and then To be able to look at an x-ray, do a consultation, do an exam, look at an x-ray, and determine where you're going to adjust, and then how you move that specifically. And there was never talk when I was in school and how I was taught of manipulation. It was a specific adjustment. And you know, Dr. Gibson, one of his famous quotes is: the you know, the adjustment is your signature. It's your signature. It defines who you are as a chiropractor. And the more specific you are, the very more, and that's another thing that a lot of chiropractors struggle with in practice. That's why they they have a hard time with high volume chiropractors because they think they have to manipulate the entire spine to get results. And what I'm gonna tell you is the more specific you are, the less you have to adjust. So two to three segments in the spine per visit, you're gonna get much better results. And so I I would learn that from Dr. Gibson, but then I took it upon myself to to really make it my my primary objective is to is to be the best chiropractic adjuster that I could possibly be all the way through. So every time I had an opportunity to adjust a patient I was gonna give him the best adjustment adjustment I could possibly deliver. And I created my technique through and then and then studying Dr. Mitch Malley. I think you guys ought to bring him over sometime. He was my extremity teacher outside of school, again, a master. He's 70 years old, he still teaches every weekend. I mean, he still practices five days a week after 48 years. I mean, he's crazy, but He his he was so specific with extremities. And so I I really learned from those guys, from the true masters in the profession. But it's one thing to learn it, but then there's then you have to take it and apply it. You have to actually work on it. I mean, you could go and study with it the masters in and piano, but if you don't go back and rehearse and play the piano, you're never gonna become a master yourself. And so I learned and worked through practice on my patients through all these years. And then, gosh, I think about 14 years ago, I was asked to teach an adjusting class, which is a whole new experience. Because now what you're doing is you're taking what you've done every single day and deconstructing it so you can share it with somebody else. And I don't know how many adjusting courses I've done now, a lot over the last several years. And I've just gotten better at articulating and how and and and and showing how I do that. And I it's probably one of my favorite things to do now is is teach the technique classes because now I've got chiropractors all over the world that the results are going through the roof. And I get messages every single day. You see me post them, you know, on on on social media the the the success stories. You know, and that's that's one of my greatest joys now is to meet a young chiropractor like you and and and and pour into you and and you take that and then you'll build your practice. Because I know if you're building your practice, you're helping a lot of people. Like the adjustment is where they come from and why they come. And so you indirectly I get to adjust patients in Australia and New Zealand and all over the world through you. And so that's that's why I do so much with what I do. Nick Harvey: That's what chiropractic's all about, isn't it? Just helping that that one person and creating something bigger than yourself. It's it's really powerful. Tim Young: That's it. Nick Harvey: And I want to touch on, you know, what is your intention when when you're adjusting someone? And I know something that you also teach is when you're with someone on the table, well, especially in practice, a good way for docs to think about it is you Imagine that all of your thoughts are being displayed on a TV out the front of your practice. Tim Young: Yeah. Yeah. Mine so in when your intention, what you have to do is you have to you have to be peaceful and you have when you're with a patient, you have to quiet your mind. And when I lay hands on a patient, one of the techniques that I train myself and I teach other doctors is just to slow your breathing down and match your breathing to your patient. And when you do that, then now you there's connection. Now you're you are truly present with that patient. And then you don't adjust until you match the breathing and then you deliver the adjustment. But the intention is to put motion. Here's what we have to understand. Your intention is to put specific motion into the joint in the right direction through the right plane line of the facet. That is the intention. If you do that properly, there is no pain, there is no stress, it is it is a smooth application of force, specifically through the joint, that allows that motion to return. That is the intention to be present. And put motion in the joint in the right direction at the right time, exactly the way it was intended. Then what you have is you have faith and expectation that God didn't make a mistake when he created that human body in front of you. That innate is 100%. All you're doing is putting motion, which removes the interference and allowing that innate intelligence to now express through all the tissue cells and restore. health back to its normal its normal production like it was supposed to be. That I have intention to put motion and I have faith that once I do that that's exactly what the body was asking for and I get out of the way and I allow the body to do its job. I have no expectations. I don't take no credit I don't take any blame. I'm not responsible whether they get well or not. You cannot be responsible for that. a at all. No different than if a person breaks her arm and the doctor puts a cast on the arm. He's not responsible if the bone grows back together. He was only responsible for putting the cast on. You cannot be responsible for what the innate intelligence of the body was intended to do. Only thing we can be responsible for is be intentional about putting motion in the joint specifically at the right place at the right time. So that's in order to do that. So I have peace when I'm with patients. I'm not trying to fix everybody. I'm not taking on the responsibility of all their problems. That you can't do that. My only responsibility is to tell them the truth, that my job is to put motion here, deliver on that truth. Step back and allow the body to do its job. Nick Harvey: And what I really hear there is your your intention is to be as present and as aware and as connected to the person in front of you and just listen to what their body needs. And I think when you when you slow Tim Young: Absolutely. Nick Harvey: down and you listen you you know where to go. You're you're told where to go and i it's more almost intuitive where where you're led to. Tim Young: It is, and and I'll tell you something, I'll tell you something else, Nick, that I've picked up on through the last several years that I've been teaching is when you are present and when you are silent, and what and you know one of my golden rules is once you lay your hands on a patient, you never speak. If you're talking while you're adjusting, you're disrespecting the patient. And here's one of the things that that I have learned through the years: when you make an adjustment, the body's teaching you. You learn from that adjustment. you you feel the presence of of the of the adjustment, you feel What happens after the adjustment? You feel the tissue change, you feel the joint move. You're also receiving information from that human body telling you what's right and what's not right. And I'm sure you watched me do it several times during the adjusting course that I taught that I would adjust somebody and I would stop and go, wait a minute, there's more. There's something else going on. There's no way I could have known that if I had not been paying attention. And through the years, I have learned to accept what the body's telling me. But if you're talking and you're distracted and your mind is on something else, you're never gonna learn from the body. It the all it is is just it's just a forceful motion with no intention behind it. But if you're quiet and you're present, and when you make that adjustment, if you're if you just allow that body to speak, it will teach you. And then when you learn, And over and over and through several and many years, then it comes a day when you lay a hand on a patient, you know exactly what needs to be done, and you do it, and you and and you know if that's right or if there's more just by the way the person adjusts. That's something that comes with mastery, but you have to be intentional on that mastery, and it's really, really powerful. Nick Harvey: Thank you for sharing that. Thank you. Before we we finish up, I'd love to get into more of a personal question. You know, you've you've you've mentioned a lot of the influences God has had, and I know from your background you're a Christian too. How has that relationship influenced the way you practice chiropractic? Tim Young: the yeah, one of the most important pieces that have that have put into place for me to build this large practice and and create the practice that I've created over 30 years is my faith. And it it all ties into chiropractic philosophy. When you study the philosophy, when you study the 33 principles, you know, the major premise, there is a universal intelligence that is expressed through all living tissue that we call innate intelligence. You can read that, and a lot of chiropractors have never read that. Some will read it and ignore it, some will read it and say that's that makes sense, but they never really give it the weight, they never give it the the energy and the intention that it needs. And I want you to think about it, Nick. There is a universal intelligence that is expressed through all living tissue that we call innate intelligence. I have such a deep rooted faith in that that I have no doubts at all. I have no insecurities when it comes to adjusting a patient. I have no insecurities, I have no doubts, I have no worry that the patient's either going to get well or they don't. And so my faith is tied tightly in the chiropractic. And when you when you listen to the greats, the Sigafooses, the Reggie Golds, the D Martinis, the Fred Barges, you know all of the the the when we talk about the history of chiropractic all the way back to silva ashworth they all had that same faith they they they know that it it isn't here's the thing dr gibson used to say this to me I don't believe in chiropractic Tim I know chiropractic and that is where we are it's like there is I have such a deep rooted faith of of the of my creator and I also have a deep rooted faith in what he created. And so for me not to believe that the body has the inborn ability to want to be well, that has this the ability to adapt to a surrounding and all I'm doing to removing it, if I don't have faith in that, then I truly don't have faith in anything. So it is so deeply woven and all the greats that come before us had that same faith. I was I was, you know, a great chiropractor who was a mentor of mine, he said, you know. The greats, they knew the kingdom of innate. They knew it. They felt it. They they lived in it. They walked in it. And and it comes with a deep-rooted faith in the creator that created this human body that we work with. Because that's really what it boils down to is when we are adjusting, we're not working with bones, muscles, tendons, ligaments. We're working with the soul. We're working with the energy of life. That's what we're truly working with. And when you When you understand that, then you take chiropractic to a whole nother level. Because when you lay hands on somebody, you're not just popping them back trying to make them feel better. What you're doing is you're removing interference and allowing the innate intelligence the energy that that created this body in the first place to flow free to be able to adapt and heal this body. That's what we're called to do. Most chiropractors don't have that faith. They're analytical and they're mechanistic. They think what we do is we all we're doing is pushing levers on a machine and trying to get the machine to function a little bit better and it cannot be further from the truth. As a vitalistic chiropractor, your faith has to be strong. And and and here's the thing, not only strong, it has to be certain. It has to be confident. There is no there is no debate in it or one foot on either side of the fence. It either is or it is not. You know, you can't say, well yeah, chiropractic can help with some things, but it can't help with these things. No no. No no. Clarence Gaunt said said this. If if the chiropractic patient is not responding, do not blame chiropractic. Look at the chiropractic who is delivering the adjustment. Right? Never blame chiropractic because the the inborn ability of the body is powerful. And there is no there is no reason that the body can't respond to anything known to man because it has. Now there are limitations of matter, and that's why we study the 33 principles. If you cut a finger off, it's never going to grow back. But When you what you do is you get the body to respond a hundred percent of what it has the ability to. And you do that through the chiropractic adjustment. And my faith in that is my power and my strength. That's why it's so important. Nick Harvey: That's really powerful. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that. And if you haven't got that faith yet, my advice would be to get around a masterful chiropractor like Dr. Tim Young and receive an adjustment. Receive an adjustment that that changes your life and shows you what chiropractic can do because that's that's how I built my own faith was receiving great quality care. you know, masterful care and and adjustments that shift something within you that you can't articulate. So I know Tim Young: Mm mm. You're absolutely right. Nick Harvey: Dr. Tim is gonna be back over here in Australia next year. Yeah, Dr. Tim's gonna be back over here in Australia next year. And Doctor Tim, for anyone listening, just before we finish up, what what have you got upcoming? Where can people find more of you? What have you got to offer? Tim Young: So I've got my book, Millionaire Chiropractor. You can go on to focusokc.com. There is a PDF version. I start tomorrow on the audio version, so we're working on that. But the PDF version that most of the chiropractors in Australia, New Zealand, all the international chiropractors are just downloading it. So you can go to focusokc.com and you just go on to book and get the book. I I start with that. And then if you go to that focusokc.com, my that's my website. My email address is on there, my contacts are on there. Like you said, I will be back. I'm gonna be back next September, I believe. I'm gonna be in Sydney, Australia, September 10th and 11th. we'll be doing a technique class and a workshop. I haven't we haven't got the links out for that, but it will be on the Focus OKC website. And then I'm gonna be in New Zealand the 17th and 18th at the school, teaching there again, also. So if you guys just will go to focusokc.com and you'll be able to find all that. And then follow me on Instagram and Facebook. I'll be I'm always on there doing videos and stuff. But I think if I think if everybody will get the book, it'll give it a great insight to what it is we do, who I am, how I how a lot of the things we talked about are in the book. And then there's also a lot of information on the coaching group. You know, we've got tons and tons of Australian doctors now, tons of New Zealand doctors, doctors in Sweden and all over that part of the world that are absolutely doing amazing. I know Chris Matheson, you know, there's there's so many of you guys over there that are just absolutely doing incredible things and I'm just honored to be a part of your guys' journey. Nick Harvey: Thank you, Dr. Timmits. It's been an absolute pleasure to have you on the podcast and hear a lot of your wisdom and experience. And yeah, I I I stand by my my words that I feel you're a warrior and have been a warrior in chiropractic and thank you for continuing to fight for our principles and our philosophy, because I think that is the backbone of chiropractic and that's what's going to continue to take us forward. So thank you. Tim Young: I'm I'm honored and I that's that's that's what I'm here to do. I I this profession, Nick I'll finish with this. People ask me why I do all this. profession has given me so much. It has provided a life, you know, after you know, my my my I have three adult children. One of my daughter's a chiropractor now. I got four grandchildren. You know, chiropractors provided a a life and a lifestyle that we have never been would have been able to receive without it. And so it is my it I believe that it is my duty, it is my obligation to give back to the profession as much as I can for giving me so much. And that's why I love doing these you know these events and and spending time with you because what you're doing is very important you're taking the time and you're creating this content and you're putting it out into the profession out into the chiropractic universe and as the more people that can receive it the you're you may there may be one young chiropractor that hears this message go wait a minute I'm missing something and then they start digging in and diving in further and they get that light that clicks and it changes everything for them then it was worth it that's all I care about. Nick Harvey: Thank you, Doctor Tim, and until next time. Tim Young: I appreciate you, Nick. Thank you, buddy. Dr. Nick Harvey: Thank you for listening to the Intune podcast. If you made it this far, I appreciate you being here. And if you enjoyed this episode, I would really appreciate if you could leave us a five-star review and share this with a friend. We'll see you next time.