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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's still.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Welcome, everybody. Welcome to this week's edition The Star Relta Show,
- 0:21Speaker 2: episode number seven and sixty seven for October twenty fourth,
- 0:25Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Welcome to your NXC Halloween Havoc Preview
- 0:29Speaker 2: and Predictions edition of s R. T.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Hugh.
- 0:34Speaker 2: I am One After Show. I Am Jeff Pack, joined
- 0:38Speaker 2: every single week by co host the one Only Doctor
- 0:40Speaker 2: Trey Franklin. Doctor Trey has John Moxley brought you back,
- 0:45Speaker 2: my friend.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Ooh uh, brought me back. Let me see, having like
- 0:50Speaker 3: a refund. So I brought back, like am I getting exchanged?
- 0:53Speaker 2: Brought you back from life to life.
- 0:56Speaker 3: I don't know my evan essence now, like that's an
- 0:59Speaker 3: old reference, but I like John Moxley.
- 1:03Speaker 1: He's uh.
- 1:04Speaker 3: I think somebody once called him recently the modern day
- 1:07Speaker 3: Terry Funk. So yeah, I'm intrigued. I'm playing along. I mean,
- 1:12Speaker 3: I'm I'm in the game, but I don't know if
- 1:15Speaker 3: I'm all in.
- 1:16Speaker 2: So let's talk about it. Blackpool Combat Club storyline is
- 1:20Speaker 2: really taking over aw It is transcending multiple shows, whether
- 1:24Speaker 2: it be Dynamite Collision Rampage. From time to time, they
- 1:28Speaker 2: are really pushing their foot on the gas on this.
- 1:31Speaker 2: There was a report out earlier or late last week.
- 1:33Speaker 2: I should say that the original plans for Brian Danielson's
- 1:37Speaker 2: world title run, which we had heard, was he's got
- 1:40Speaker 2: to win the title all in and then drop it
- 1:42Speaker 2: to Darby Allen at Wrussell Dream Tacoma Hometown Boy, give
- 1:46Speaker 2: it to Darby Allen a run with We had heard
- 1:49Speaker 2: rumblings about that, I think leading into all In, that
- 1:52Speaker 2: that was what AW was potentially thinking about. Maybe it
- 1:55Speaker 2: was post all In. After Danielson won, they obviously changed
- 1:59Speaker 2: it around. Darby lost the title shot at Grand Slam
- 2:03Speaker 2: to Moxley. Moxley wants the title at Russell Dreaman. Now
- 2:06Speaker 2: we're foot on the accelerator with this Blackpool Combat Club storyline,
- 2:09Speaker 2: and the reason why the change happened is because AW
- 2:12Speaker 2: reportedly wants to gain some more interest into the product,
- 2:15Speaker 2: and they're pushing this Blackpool Combat Club storyline to the
- 2:20Speaker 2: forefront to re engage some fans that may be on
- 2:23Speaker 2: the fringe or those that are on I guess life
- 2:27Speaker 2: supporting a way which I think I can almost put
- 2:29Speaker 2: myself in that basket at times. So the question asked
- 2:33Speaker 2: doctor Trey Aw is really trying hard. We cannot deny
- 2:37Speaker 2: that at all. Are they doing a good job sucking
- 2:40Speaker 2: you back into their product? Though?
- 2:43Speaker 3: I mean it's got my interest and I think we've
- 2:46Speaker 3: talked about it. I think I talked about with you
- 2:48Speaker 3: like one last CO show, like you and I being
- 2:51Speaker 3: lifelong wrestling fans, love invasion takeover angles because you see
- 2:58Speaker 3: some alliances you thought you never see. You see some
- 3:02Speaker 3: intriguing matchups you thought you'd never see. Plus there's always
- 3:05Speaker 3: mystery involved, whether it's you know, nWo, who's bankrolling the nWo,
- 3:10Speaker 3: the WCWECW invasion angle, whether it's even like the Ministry
- 3:15Speaker 3: of Darkness stuff, who's the higher power?
- 3:17Speaker 1: Like, we love this type of stuff.
- 3:20Speaker 3: It's what makes wrestling fans cross over that storyline, suspension
- 3:26Speaker 3: of disbelief with the athleticism professional wrestling.
- 3:28Speaker 1: We love this stuff.
- 3:30Speaker 3: So when something's being done and it is being pushed
- 3:33Speaker 3: to the forefront, yeah, it's gonna get my attention. It's
- 3:37Speaker 3: going to kind of grab me and go, Okay, where
- 3:38Speaker 3: are we going with this? Who's involved? Who are the players?
- 3:42Speaker 3: Where the chess pieces going? So I'm engaged in it,
- 3:45Speaker 3: But like we've said, we've seen them do so many
- 3:48Speaker 3: start and stop storyline pushes that it makes you nervous
- 3:53Speaker 3: that this one might fall flat on his face. I mean,
- 3:56Speaker 3: we're probably what six weeks into this. They've done a
- 3:59Speaker 3: good job for the most part, but I'm still waiting
- 4:03Speaker 3: to see some bigger pieces fall into place, because you know,
- 4:06Speaker 3: as much as we love the orange cassidyes in the
- 4:09Speaker 3: Darby Allens of the world, Like when I see a
- 4:12Speaker 3: bunch of good guys outside waiting to fight them, and
- 4:15Speaker 3: I see John Silver all five foot five of them
- 4:18Speaker 3: right there at the forefront, I'm like, is that well
- 4:22Speaker 3: the top three or four baby faces we have, Like
- 4:24Speaker 3: that just kind of seems kind of weak if he's
- 4:26Speaker 3: the guy fighting the good fight. That's like when I've
- 4:30Speaker 3: referenced nWo last week, I was like, you know, that's
- 4:33Speaker 3: the l Dandy, the Silver King, you know, those kind
- 4:36Speaker 3: of guys when the nWo was kind of taking over
- 4:38Speaker 3: WCW that you really didn't care about if they got
- 4:41Speaker 3: beat up and destroyed.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny that you mentioned that, And
- 4:44Speaker 2: that was one of the arguments that we had, was like,
- 4:46Speaker 2: these are the baby faces that they chose, And I
- 4:48Speaker 2: was just looking up some numbers that I wanted to
- 4:51Speaker 2: discuss in regards to viewership when it comes to aw Dynamite,
- 4:54Speaker 2: and I came across a tweet from Daniel Garcia. He
- 4:57Speaker 2: had subtweeted Russell Pure on Twitter, which is an account
- 5:01Speaker 2: I always follow for a lot of news notes coverage
- 5:04Speaker 2: of professional wrestling. Highly recommend them to everybody. And it's
- 5:08Speaker 2: just the video of everybody at the beginning of Dynamite
- 5:11Speaker 2: waiting for the Blackpool Blackpool Combat Club and Daniel Garcia,
- 5:18Speaker 2: which is something we talked about in the show, and
- 5:20Speaker 2: Doctor Trey just mentioned subtweeted that and said, quote, say
- 5:23Speaker 2: what you want about this group, but we're the ones fighting,
- 5:26Speaker 2: And then he could put in quotes, but what about
- 5:28Speaker 2: dot dot dot question mark another quote, whereas dot dot
- 5:31Speaker 2: dot question mark, that's a question for them. They should
- 5:34Speaker 2: care more. I like that Garcia is addressing that on Twitter,
- 5:38Speaker 2: but that's what they should address. Storyline wise, it well
- 5:42Speaker 2: like have Daniel Garcia walk in the hallways, he passes
- 5:45Speaker 2: by sort of Strickland swerve of why aren't you joining us?
- 5:47Speaker 2: Like what do you? I thought you were mister Elite wrestling.
- 5:50Speaker 2: You know they're doing that right now with the elite,
- 5:52Speaker 2: and you're kind of seeing the young bucks teasing, going
- 5:54Speaker 2: back and forth like they want to help. I think
- 5:56Speaker 2: Nicholas Jackson had another line. He's been like these this
- 6:00Speaker 2: guy for subtle lines during this entire thing. He's like,
- 6:03Speaker 2: should we go help? Like you hear or maybe it
- 6:06Speaker 2: was Matt, I don't remember which one. I'm pretty sure
- 6:08Speaker 2: it was Nick, but anyway, you hear them say should
- 6:10Speaker 2: we go help? And I think the camera cut out
- 6:13Speaker 2: and Jack Perry's the one that's being like, no, no, no, no,
- 6:15Speaker 2: does let it go? But that is something that dismissing
- 6:19Speaker 2: the storyline, like I like the top Flight, I like
- 6:22Speaker 2: the Dark Orders doing this, but up until this point,
- 6:25Speaker 2: why should I give a damn? And then you've got
- 6:27Speaker 2: Private Party threatening to split up if they lose their
- 6:30Speaker 2: tag team title shot. And they're the ones that are
- 6:33Speaker 2: kind of in the forefront of all this with Dani
- 6:35Speaker 2: Garcia along with Orange Cassie, like those are some of
- 6:38Speaker 2: the recognizable names. It's basically not a who's who, It's
- 6:42Speaker 2: a bunch of people that typically get some time on rampage.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Lord love them, longtime people in aaw like the butcher
- 6:47Speaker 2: I saw the other night, But you know Captain Sean
- 6:51Speaker 2: Dean Lord love him, but I'm not thinking he's going
- 6:54Speaker 2: to be defending aw's hon or over the BCC. And
- 6:57Speaker 2: to me, Doctor Trey, and we do this a lot
- 6:59Speaker 2: with the Invasion Angles. We mentioned it in the description
- 7:02Speaker 2: of it. Yes, we love Invasion angles and professional wrestling,
- 7:05Speaker 2: but sometimes I feel like it gets to be so
- 7:08Speaker 2: repetitive that it loses a little bit of luster, because
- 7:11Speaker 2: I think you can make a case back in April
- 7:14Speaker 2: that the Elite storyline was a takeover of AW, and
- 7:19Speaker 2: then they're redoing it again but with a different group
- 7:22Speaker 2: this time, so that's a concern. I'm gonna sound like
- 7:26Speaker 2: an old head here, but this, to me, Doctor Trey
- 7:29Speaker 2: reminds me so much of the way WW handled the
- 7:33Speaker 2: nWo angle. It's a bunch of mid tier, not your
- 7:40Speaker 2: top talent stars defending the honor of the promotion while
- 7:44Speaker 2: the top talent stars are nowhere to be found and
- 7:46Speaker 2: hopefully get integrated into it soon. This is one of
- 7:51Speaker 2: the closest early stage nWo storylines I could remember in
- 7:56Speaker 2: some time. I mean, it really really mirrors it, and
- 8:01Speaker 2: we really don't have justification as to why the BCC
- 8:03Speaker 2: is doing it. Other than the fact that they're like
- 8:05Speaker 2: second tired of all elite wrestling the way that it's gone.
- 8:07Speaker 2: But there are some holes in this right now. It's intriguing,
- 8:11Speaker 2: but there are some holes in this. And because of
- 8:13Speaker 2: past practices, whether it was who is behind the Devil
- 8:16Speaker 2: Mask or are the elite taking over? Aw, there is
- 8:20Speaker 2: some optimism and pessimism when it comes to as E
- 8:24Speaker 2: as a fan, Should I get really invested into what
- 8:26Speaker 2: they're doing right now? Yeah?
- 8:28Speaker 3: You actually mentioned a great thing there when you're talking
- 8:30Speaker 3: about the nWo and all thats of in the elite
- 8:33Speaker 3: and this whole thing with the BCC and the elite.
- 8:35Speaker 3: If you remember when the nWo took over, the Horsemen
- 8:38Speaker 3: were still there and they were kind of the heel
- 8:40Speaker 3: faction and you.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Didn't it was them in like the Dungeon of Doom.
- 8:45Speaker 3: Yeah, and you didn't know where their allegiance was going
- 8:48Speaker 3: to fall, like were they going to side with the
- 8:51Speaker 3: NW or are they going to stick out for WCW.
- 8:52Speaker 3: That's kind of where we're at with this storyline as well,
- 8:55Speaker 3: where where does the elif fall in? But you know
- 8:58Speaker 3: it is questionable because I mean, at least when the
- 9:01Speaker 3: nWo first kind of came in, there was stinging Luger around,
- 9:06Speaker 3: and then you had the Harlem He's so there were
- 9:07Speaker 3: still some of the big, the top guys. But this
- 9:10Speaker 3: is literally, I mean, I guess you can call Darby
- 9:14Speaker 3: Allen a top guy in the company. Think Orange Cassidy's
- 9:19Speaker 3: upper mid card, you know, top of the mid card,
- 9:23Speaker 3: you know, food chain.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Daniel Garcia is up.
- 9:25Speaker 3: There a little bit too, But everybody else, I mean,
- 9:28Speaker 3: it's like the BCC against aew Dark for the most
- 9:32Speaker 3: part here, Yeah, I mean, there's no there's no Rickochet,
- 9:36Speaker 3: Like Ricochet has nothing going on.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Why is he not involved in this?
- 9:40Speaker 2: Well he's going off for Takashka.
- 9:42Speaker 3: Okay, But still, like if if darb I mean, if
- 9:45Speaker 3: if Daniel Garcia can fight MJF on one side, you know,
- 9:49Speaker 3: half heartedly, that fuse kind of a little bit over
- 9:51Speaker 3: because we moved MJFF and Cole, but you got Garcia
- 9:54Speaker 3: over here. Private party is challenging for tag Belts and
- 9:57Speaker 3: they can still be involved in this.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Why can't ricks sh they do both sides?
- 10:01Speaker 2: You know.
- 10:01Speaker 3: Why can't FTR, who's doing nothing, you know, be involved.
- 10:05Speaker 3: Why can't the outrunners be involved? Why can't we see
- 10:07Speaker 3: some more of these top you know, upper upper mid
- 10:10Speaker 3: card moorderline Maine event talents get involved. Now once again,
- 10:14Speaker 3: the BCC's only got four people. If you camorn a five,
- 10:20Speaker 3: it's five people against the entire roster. That's why it
- 10:24Speaker 3: does give you very much early nWo vibes because so
- 10:28Speaker 3: far those five people are beating the crap out of everybody.
- 10:32Speaker 3: So it does make you a little nervous, but it
- 10:35Speaker 3: does have those shades of NW And especially if we
- 10:37Speaker 3: get you know, Seae McMahon or Ted Debiossi to show up,
- 10:41Speaker 3: then we'll we'll be really right there.
- 10:43Speaker 2: I think that's like the thing that to the sea
- 10:45Speaker 2: mcman point, Like, that's the thing that I'm really like
- 10:47Speaker 2: banking on right now because outside of anything that's going
- 10:51Speaker 2: to shock me surprise me, like making a holy crap,
- 10:53Speaker 2: I can't believe this happened. This to me is just
- 10:57Speaker 2: a solid storyline to help build the next wave of
- 11:02Speaker 2: top stars in AW. Obviously, right now the focal point
- 11:06Speaker 2: is Orange Cassidy. That is the focal point. It would
- 11:11Speaker 2: but I would be under the impression right now that
- 11:13Speaker 2: Orange Cassidy is going to be the title contender to
- 11:16Speaker 2: John Moxley at full gear in late November. Like, that's
- 11:19Speaker 2: the direction things are going. They're working on building Orange,
- 11:23Speaker 2: They're working on building Darby Allen, maybe Daniel Garcia. Like
- 11:26Speaker 2: that is the point of this storyline. And that's great,
- 11:29Speaker 2: and it's it's engaging, but you gotta you gotta do
- 11:33Speaker 2: these little things that make me go, man, this is
- 11:36Speaker 2: this is intriguing. I think there are some intriguing things
- 11:40Speaker 2: about the storyline. The Orange Cassidy. Everybody wants him to
- 11:45Speaker 2: be a leader, but he doesn't see himself as a leader.
- 11:47Speaker 2: Every time he gets in with the best in the ring,
- 11:49Speaker 2: with the BCC, he becomes a changed person. He doesn't
- 11:51Speaker 2: really want to do this, but they keep like taking
- 11:54Speaker 2: shots at his armor, taking out Chuck Taylor. And you
- 11:58Speaker 2: saw his reaction at the end of dynam I thought
- 12:00Speaker 2: was really good. I'm a big Orange Cassidy fan and
- 12:03Speaker 2: believer in him. The other thing is, and I only
- 12:07Speaker 2: noticed this on X the next day, and I did
- 12:09Speaker 2: not notice this during the actual viewing of Dynamite when
- 12:13Speaker 2: I was watching it on Live on Wednesday night, is
- 12:17Speaker 2: as I was more focused on Claudio Wheeler. DA puts
- 12:21Speaker 2: the steel chair on Chuck Taylor's ankle, which we all
- 12:25Speaker 2: know his careers would presume to be over. He's now
- 12:28Speaker 2: working backstage and his ankle is the reason why puts
- 12:31Speaker 2: it on the ankle for them to smash it. Claudio
- 12:33Speaker 2: takes it out, puts the chair on Chuck Taylor's neck,
- 12:38Speaker 2: and Wheeler Youda is going back to this conflicted person.
- 12:41Speaker 2: He's like like freaking out a little bit, putting his
- 12:44Speaker 2: hands on over his head. They obviously smashed the chair
- 12:47Speaker 2: over or close the chair shut. With the stomp on
- 12:51Speaker 2: Chuck Taylor injures his neck, and Wheeler da is very,
- 12:54Speaker 2: very conflicted, And I wish commentary picked that up a
- 12:59Speaker 2: little bit more. I don't know if that is supposedly
- 13:01Speaker 2: supposed to or supposed to be an easter egg for
- 13:03Speaker 2: us to notice and then discuss and be like, hey,
- 13:06Speaker 2: Wheelers not fully on board with all this right now,
- 13:09Speaker 2: but they're not. Like I wouldn't notice if it wasn't
- 13:12Speaker 2: for X or the next day. I was too focused on, uh,
- 13:15Speaker 2: you know, Claudio doing this thing. I did not notice Wheeler.
- 13:18Speaker 2: And that is the point where like commentary should potentially
- 13:21Speaker 2: say something like, hey, does Wheeler look conflicted right now?
- 13:25Speaker 2: Those are some subtleties that that I'm digging right now,
- 13:27Speaker 2: Doctor Trey. Outside of that, I like the vignettes. I
- 13:30Speaker 2: like the stuff that's starting on Dynamite and Rampage and Collision.
- 13:33Speaker 2: I like the weird, crazy music. I like where they're
- 13:36Speaker 2: putting them out in the desert and riding in the
- 13:39Speaker 2: pickup truck. The riddles of John Moxley. Sometimes they go
- 13:42Speaker 2: a little bit too far off the range for my liking.
- 13:46Speaker 2: But those are some things that I'm like, Okay, this
- 13:49Speaker 2: is good. Can I can I get behind it? I'm
- 13:52Speaker 2: still like kind of dangling on my foot above the
- 13:55Speaker 2: pool a little bit.
- 13:57Speaker 3: Yeah, when you mentioned some of John Moxy's is going
- 14:00Speaker 3: off the rails, all I can member is that he'll
- 14:02Speaker 3: run when he had the gas mask. Yeah, Like, Okay,
- 14:05Speaker 3: there was some meandering ramblings there, and that was again
- 14:09Speaker 3: like who else would be a really intriguing higher power
- 14:12Speaker 3: for this group? And I'm like, wouldn't be really awesome
- 14:14Speaker 3: if they revealed that Renee Puckhead is the person behind
- 14:17Speaker 3: this whole takeover?
- 14:18Speaker 2: Yeah? It was me, Tony was me all along.
- 14:21Speaker 3: It was me all along, Marina, Like Roderick Strong's like
- 14:24Speaker 3: right there with his wife now too, you know, but yeah,
- 14:26Speaker 3: like I'm enjoying it. I like the way they're shooting
- 14:30Speaker 3: some of this stuff. I like some of their placements,
- 14:33Speaker 3: Like it's not always right at the beginning, it's not
- 14:35Speaker 3: always right at the end, but there's always some kind
- 14:38Speaker 3: of impact, which then makes you want to watch the
- 14:40Speaker 3: entire show to see when it's going to happen, which
- 14:43Speaker 3: is smart on their part. That's one of the things
- 14:45Speaker 3: I've knocked them about for the betterment of four and
- 14:48Speaker 3: a half years is placement of stuff on the show,
- 14:52Speaker 3: because it is a television show at the end of
- 14:54Speaker 3: the day. But yeah, the Wheeler stuff, I caught that
- 14:57Speaker 3: cause I was like, oh, yeah, I remember Wheeler was
- 14:58Speaker 3: in Best Friends, and that's why I think he would
- 15:02Speaker 3: be conflicted. But you know, right now you got this
- 15:06Speaker 3: is Trent hurt or just not being used right now.
- 15:12Speaker 2: We really haven't gotten full yeah.
- 15:15Speaker 3: Because we saw this on a Trent and Don Kallis
- 15:17Speaker 3: and then Trent disappeared, and I think the question mark
- 15:19Speaker 3: meant where is he?
- 15:20Speaker 1: We don't know where he went, but to.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Me, it's still you're you're needing that next person on
- 15:28Speaker 3: the baby face side to get involved. And Swurst tied
- 15:31Speaker 3: up with Hurt Syndicate, Slash Business, slash LLC. I don't
- 15:37Speaker 3: really know what their name is right now, you know.
- 15:40Speaker 3: So you got Osprey and Fletcher tied up. Adam Cole
- 15:43Speaker 3: now has this whole United Kingdom uh a disputed Kingdom.
- 15:49Speaker 1: The thing, you know, whatever it is with m JF
- 15:52Speaker 1: So like.
- 15:53Speaker 2: You Yeah, one minute he says I've got to cover
- 15:55Speaker 2: the next minute, undisputed Kingdoms.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Out the next week, you know.
- 15:59Speaker 3: And and Adam Copeland still her the Blackpool Combat Club
- 16:03Speaker 3: are not gonna be the house of Blacker if you
- 16:05Speaker 3: thought for baby faces buddies calling out Adam Colet so like,
- 16:09Speaker 3: I don't really, I mean, it's just you have a heel.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Faction and and the purpose of this and you can.
- 16:15Speaker 3: Go back to the old, the old uh wwf uh
- 16:18Speaker 3: oh what was that show they had where they had
- 16:20Speaker 3: the Legends of the Ring.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Thing uh at the round Table?
- 16:24Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 16:25Speaker 1: And National Wrestling Yeah.
- 16:28Speaker 3: And but you know, Kevin Nash said the purpose of
- 16:30Speaker 3: the nWo was to build baby faces.
- 16:33Speaker 1: And that's the.
- 16:33Speaker 3: Purpose of any heel group is to build baby faces.
- 16:37Speaker 3: And now you have a heel faction that is borderline
- 16:41Speaker 3: the cool kids, much like the NBO was but this
- 16:43Speaker 3: is your chance to build up baby faces, and they're
- 16:46Speaker 3: starting it with you know, their pillars, so to speak.
- 16:49Speaker 3: But we also need some meat, we need some of
- 16:52Speaker 3: the With the top guys get involved in this, I
- 16:55Speaker 3: think that's when you'll see it come to full fruition.
- 16:57Speaker 3: But right now, I mean argue, your top five baby
- 17:02Speaker 3: faces in the company are off doing other stuff. You know,
- 17:05Speaker 3: maybe Darby's exception, but really, I mean when you look
- 17:08Speaker 3: at the other the Swerves and the Ospreys and the
- 17:10Speaker 3: Ricochets and the O'shay's and the you know whatever, they're
- 17:15Speaker 3: all off doing other things and kind of ignoring this
- 17:18Speaker 3: whole BCC thing. And then with Jack Perry keeps stopping them,
- 17:23Speaker 3: does that somehow put Jack Perry.
- 17:25Speaker 1: Into the BCC at some point too?
- 17:26Speaker 3: If if he's the one that keeps the elite from
- 17:28Speaker 3: getting involved and we find out that maybe it's Jack
- 17:31Speaker 3: Perry behind.
- 17:33Speaker 2: All of this, oh god, yeah, that would be like
- 17:35Speaker 2: my mind would be blown if it was Jack Perry
- 17:37Speaker 2: and Shane McMann. It was basically be everything that I
- 17:41Speaker 2: don't like. So should it have been? Like I dig
- 17:45Speaker 2: that they're trying to establish some new top level talent,
- 17:49Speaker 2: and I think the ones that they're identifying here is Orange, Cassidy,
- 17:52Speaker 2: Darby Allen, and Daniel Garcia. They want these guys to
- 17:54Speaker 2: be elevated from the storyline, and I'm totally down and
- 17:56Speaker 2: dig it with that. But I think the one thing
- 17:58Speaker 2: that we're having our trouble with, because we keep going
- 18:00Speaker 2: going back to it, Doctor Trey, is should they have
- 18:02Speaker 2: started this all out with a very well established babyface.
- 18:07Speaker 2: You can make a case that that was Brian Danielson.
- 18:09Speaker 2: He was put on the shelf, but should have someone
- 18:12Speaker 2: else who was more established, whether it be Swert of Strickland, MJF.
- 18:18Speaker 2: Jay White, whoever. Should they have been the ones that
- 18:22Speaker 2: carried the flag to begin with, and then maybe they
- 18:25Speaker 2: passed it down the line to Darby, Orange, Daniel Garcia.
- 18:29Speaker 3: See, I think I'm okay with this with the way
- 18:32Speaker 3: they've done this so far, because with the start, because
- 18:35Speaker 3: of the fact that you know it's Moxley, it's Danielson,
- 18:40Speaker 3: you have the Wheeler turn involved there. I'm fine with it.
- 18:43Speaker 3: What I didn't like was they didn't really have I mean,
- 18:47Speaker 3: you had a little bit of the Darby stuff, a
- 18:48Speaker 3: Darby losing the title shot, but like there wasn't anybody
- 18:52Speaker 3: really in place to kind of jump it up to
- 18:55Speaker 3: the next level. I mean, you literally ended the career
- 18:58Speaker 3: of Brian Danielson. That's a pretty big thing, and your
- 19:01Speaker 3: follow up is Garcia and then and taking out Chuck
- 19:05Speaker 3: Taylor like that feels like a drop off to me.
- 19:08Speaker 3: So I felt like they should have built upon it,
- 19:11Speaker 3: and instead they kind of it kind of went down
- 19:13Speaker 3: a little bit on who they're going after, because going
- 19:17Speaker 3: after Danilson is kind of like you know, being uh,
- 19:20Speaker 3: you know, your eating your own. It wasn't really like
- 19:22Speaker 3: they were taking out an aw guy. They were kind
- 19:24Speaker 3: of taking out one of their own guys. So I
- 19:28Speaker 3: wish they'd had somebody else in line to take up
- 19:32Speaker 3: the flag that was maybe a little higher on the
- 19:35Speaker 3: food chain than what we're getting right now. Like to me,
- 19:37Speaker 3: this is kind of like, I guess the appetizer before
- 19:40Speaker 3: we get to the main course. I just don't want
- 19:43Speaker 3: my stuffed kept mushrooms to be too slimy that I
- 19:46Speaker 3: don't really I lose my appetite.
- 19:48Speaker 2: So speaking of programming, speaking of wanting to keep us
- 19:51Speaker 2: locked in on dynamite rampage collision. This is the main
- 19:54Speaker 2: storyline of all the wrestling right now? Is it getting
- 19:57Speaker 2: us invested, is it keeping us around? And how are
- 20:01Speaker 2: they building the rest of the show out? And I
- 20:03Speaker 2: think that's kind of a little bit of the concern here.
- 20:05Speaker 2: So I look at viewership for AW Dynamite on Wednesday
- 20:09Speaker 2: night and it was six hundred and thirty seven thousand
- 20:13Speaker 2: viewers tuned into AW Dynamite last night. Eighteen to forty
- 20:17Speaker 2: nine age group was at zero point one nine rating
- 20:21Speaker 2: NXT the night before seven or and two thousand, so
- 20:24Speaker 2: more viewers obviously tuned in overall for NXT the eighteen
- 20:29Speaker 2: to forty nine point one six, so a little bit
- 20:32Speaker 2: lower than AW Dynamite, but more viewers tuned into NXT,
- 20:36Speaker 2: and usually a year ago at this time those numbers
- 20:38Speaker 2: and prior to all this were reversed in AW Ninamite
- 20:42Speaker 2: was typically like in the eight hundreds. So they've seen
- 20:44Speaker 2: a considerable drop off, and they're doing the storyline, they're
- 20:48Speaker 2: changing their stuff up, they're giving it a shot. I'm
- 20:51Speaker 2: noticing that they're acknowledging that the current climate of all
- 20:55Speaker 2: lee wrestling is not good. There are plenty of photos
- 20:59Speaker 2: in social media that notice at any point where it's
- 21:03Speaker 2: the building is half full. I saw, I saw a
- 21:06Speaker 2: picture from and video of last night's AW Dynamite, and
- 21:10Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't it wasn't even like three quarters full.
- 21:13Speaker 2: I mean it was really really bad. They were very,
- 21:16Speaker 2: very scattered all over the place. People are pointing out
- 21:18Speaker 2: the Adam Cole, mjf rogerck Strong segment where there was
- 21:22Speaker 2: like a lack of reaction at the end of it,
- 21:25Speaker 2: and they are absolutely right. You could have heard a
- 21:26Speaker 2: pin drop in that that is concerning AW is pushing
- 21:31Speaker 2: tickets for upcoming events during their show a lot more
- 21:34Speaker 2: or at least a lot more noticeable than I could
- 21:37Speaker 2: ever remember prior to that. It would just be like,
- 21:39Speaker 2: you know, we have some upcoming events on AW tick
- 21:41Speaker 2: ticks dot com. Go down below and you could scan
- 21:44Speaker 2: the QR code and join us. In a couple of
- 21:46Speaker 2: weeks now they're running like thirty second spots on Dynamite
- 21:50Speaker 2: Collision Rampage to tune in, and you're also noticing that
- 21:53Speaker 2: they're promoting upcoming match and for future matches for future
- 21:56Speaker 2: Dynamites Rampages Collision. The amount of times I heard about
- 21:59Speaker 2: Shelton Benjamin Versus of strigling a week from tonight on
- 22:03Speaker 2: Friday Night Dynamite. I think they added another match as well,
- 22:07Speaker 2: Private Party in Young Bucks, which I like. That's well good.
- 22:10Speaker 2: That goes back to like the old days of AW.
- 22:12Speaker 2: They're promoting matches two weeks out. I think first Atlanta
- 22:15Speaker 2: Morra and Mercedes Monett or No Camill is going to
- 22:19Speaker 2: take place in a couple weeks, Mariah May and Anna Ja.
- 22:23Speaker 2: It's got to take place in a couple of weeks.
- 22:25Speaker 2: So they're really doing this. They're acknowledging this from a
- 22:27Speaker 2: storyline standpoint, they're acknowledging this from a promotion standpoint. Is
- 22:31Speaker 2: it desperate, Doctor Trey or do we applaud them for
- 22:36Speaker 2: doing this?
- 22:38Speaker 1: See?
- 22:38Speaker 3: I applauded for this because that's something else that we
- 22:40Speaker 3: had brought up like a month ago, was the promotion,
- 22:44Speaker 3: Like you don't see the AAW guys out on any
- 22:47Speaker 3: of the mainstream media stuff. You don't really see other
- 22:50Speaker 3: than the occasional Facebook posts about upcoming shows, like you have.
- 22:54Speaker 1: To go to the website.
- 22:55Speaker 3: Most wrestling fans, I hate to say this is going
- 22:57Speaker 3: to sound crass, but are kind of lazy. Just let
- 23:00Speaker 3: me know when you're gonna be in my town at
- 23:03Speaker 3: some point where I don't have to go to I
- 23:05Speaker 3: don't have to go on your website and search when
- 23:08Speaker 3: you're gonna be in my area.
- 23:09Speaker 1: Let me know when the upcoming shows are.
- 23:10Speaker 3: That was always a staple of w CW, Nitro and
- 23:13Speaker 3: even WW back in the day, was Hey, next week,
- 23:16Speaker 3: we're gonna be here. In two weeks, we're gonna be here,
- 23:18Speaker 3: in three weeks, we're gonna be here. Tickets are still
- 23:20Speaker 3: on sale, and you'd be like, oh crap, this show's
- 23:22Speaker 3: been pretty good.
- 23:23Speaker 1: I'd like to go check it out in person.
- 23:25Speaker 3: You know, you kind of got to hit a lot
- 23:27Speaker 3: of wrestling fans over the head with information, like, you know,
- 23:32Speaker 3: the diehards, Yeah, the ones who watch being the elite
- 23:35Speaker 3: and we're watching Dark and you know everything else, and
- 23:38Speaker 3: the ones that's stuck around have stuck around for rampage,
- 23:41Speaker 3: Like those people are always going to be in the note.
- 23:43Speaker 3: But your casual fans just kind of want it laid
- 23:46Speaker 3: out in front of them, simple and easy when you're
- 23:48Speaker 3: gonna be out there. I think it's a good move
- 23:50Speaker 3: on their part, because, hey, if you're telling me Swerve
- 23:53Speaker 3: and Shelton's and you know, next week, do we get
- 23:56Speaker 3: the debut of Bobby Lashley also liked, might have to
- 23:58Speaker 3: tune in to see that. If you're a Chris Statlander
- 24:02Speaker 3: fan or a Camille fan, and you know that they're
- 24:05Speaker 3: gonna be going in.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Those are two big, strong women fighting it out. Hey,
- 24:09Speaker 1: i'mot to check that out.
- 24:09Speaker 3: So I think it's smart on their part to announce
- 24:13Speaker 3: stuff like that, you know, Anna Jay and Mariah May. Hey,
- 24:15Speaker 3: I think I may I might even sit by the
- 24:17Speaker 3: bay and.
- 24:18Speaker 1: Watch this play.
- 24:20Speaker 3: These are all good things for them on the marketing
- 24:23Speaker 3: end to kind of put it out there instead of
- 24:26Speaker 3: just you know, waiting around. I mean, we still see
- 24:29Speaker 3: raw do that Like, Hey, next week, we're gonna you know,
- 24:31Speaker 3: during the show next week, you and I head to
- 24:34Speaker 3: head toe to toe. You know, stuff like that that's intrigued.
- 24:37Speaker 3: It's creating that hook to keep the viewership around and
- 24:40Speaker 3: have them coming back for more.
- 24:42Speaker 2: So I like what they're doing. I like that they're trying.
- 24:45Speaker 2: The one thing that I noticed on this past week
- 24:49Speaker 2: loop of when we last spoke about aw programming, Doctor Trey,
- 24:53Speaker 2: is if you want me to tune into your show,
- 24:56Speaker 2: and you want me to be invested, if you want
- 24:58Speaker 2: me to pay my hard earned money to sit down
- 25:01Speaker 2: in your show. When you come into my town and
- 25:03Speaker 2: support aaw you cannot run multiple matches with jobbers like
- 25:09Speaker 2: you just can't. I'm pretty sure. And everything kind of
- 25:12Speaker 2: blends together when it comes to a W programming, which
- 25:14Speaker 2: sometimes is not a good thing. Brian Cage and Lance
- 25:21Speaker 2: Archer had a tag team match against two jobbers. The
- 25:25Speaker 2: House of Black had a trios match against three jobbers.
- 25:29Speaker 2: There is nothing outside of the Action Andretti Christ Jericho
- 25:33Speaker 2: match that makes me ever think that I want to
- 25:35Speaker 2: sit down and tune in and watch the House of
- 25:37Speaker 2: Black destroy three job jobbers or Brian Cage and Lance
- 25:42Speaker 2: Archer beat up two jobbers like that to me does
- 25:45Speaker 2: not do anything for me. There's other talent on the roster,
- 25:49Speaker 2: and maybe they're doing this doctor Tree because of the
- 25:51Speaker 2: babyfacenario with the BCC angle that can be better utilized
- 25:57Speaker 2: in the spot like make it worth my time, make
- 25:59Speaker 2: it worth my my interest. Do you want to do
- 26:01Speaker 2: a jobber match here and there? Fine, but to do
- 26:04Speaker 2: it on Rampage, Collision and Dynamite This past week multiple times,
- 26:09Speaker 2: I'm like you, what are they doing? I mean, they
- 26:11Speaker 2: have a roster of one hundred and fifty people. Why
- 26:14Speaker 2: am I getting this jobber match? And especially with a
- 26:17Speaker 2: tendance down and viewership down, that to me in twenty
- 26:21Speaker 2: twenty four doesn't make sense. And you and I grew
- 26:23Speaker 2: up on nothing but jobber matches on television, and we
- 26:26Speaker 2: may disagree on this, but I'm like, at this point
- 26:29Speaker 2: when I watch Raw, NXT and SmackDown, there is value
- 26:33Speaker 2: to nearly every single match that takes place on one
- 26:36Speaker 2: of those three shows in WWA, and that is amazing
- 26:40Speaker 2: and hard to come by. And why is an AW
- 26:44Speaker 2: doing the same thing? So that is a problem that
- 26:47Speaker 2: I've had with AW programming as of land. I'm like,
- 26:49Speaker 2: why are they doing all these jobber matches knowing viewership
- 26:51Speaker 2: and ticket sales are down?
- 26:54Speaker 3: Sorry, my wife's laughing. I think we just invented the
- 26:58Speaker 3: first drinking game. One answer to you, I think you
- 26:59Speaker 3: say jobber like twelve times perfect.
- 27:02Speaker 2: Perfect.
- 27:03Speaker 3: So now we have a jobb or drinking game. So
- 27:05Speaker 3: anytime we throw out the word jobber, take a.
- 27:07Speaker 2: Drink, ye chop squad, does that count.
- 27:10Speaker 1: A little bit?
- 27:11Speaker 3: Uh So when it came to those squash matches, see
- 27:15Speaker 3: I went in there when squashed out jobber, I didn't
- 27:18Speaker 3: mind the archer Cage one because that was one of
- 27:21Speaker 3: the I mean, they're they're gonna try to build them
- 27:23Speaker 3: up as a tag team, so you got to try
- 27:25Speaker 3: to show them just doing like crazy ridiculous power moves
- 27:28Speaker 3: to get fans going, oh crap, that these guys should
- 27:31Speaker 3: be pretty cool. House of Black though, Like we don't
- 27:35Speaker 3: need a trio It was a trios match against three
- 27:39Speaker 3: no names to lead to a Buddy Murphy singles match.
- 27:42Speaker 3: Makes no sense there if that worst case there, put
- 27:44Speaker 3: Buddy Murphy and getting in Leo Russian there and let
- 27:46Speaker 3: Buddy Murphy beat Leo Russia then challenge Adam Cole to
- 27:50Speaker 3: have them do a jobber match like that, like doesn't
- 27:54Speaker 3: make sense to me. It's just kind of a waste
- 27:55Speaker 3: of time. We're just have Buddy Murphy come out and
- 27:57Speaker 3: call out Adam Cole backstage somewhere. It's kind of a
- 28:00Speaker 3: waste of time. Like I get it if you're trying
- 28:03Speaker 3: to establish something new for a kind of a new
- 28:06Speaker 3: character or a new team or something like that, But
- 28:09Speaker 3: what's this established team and they've been around your show
- 28:13Speaker 3: for two three years.
- 28:15Speaker 1: It's it's it's just.
- 28:16Speaker 3: Complete waste and those that's when you get frustrated. Like
- 28:19Speaker 3: Raw will have them occasionally, but if they do it,
- 28:22Speaker 3: it's because they're trying to build up a new character,
- 28:25Speaker 3: new team something like that. You know, think when bron
- 28:28Speaker 3: Breaker debut or when you know, Goother or came to
- 28:31Speaker 3: the main roster, some of those guys, you know, it's like, oh,
- 28:34Speaker 3: we're having them beat up some note name guys and
- 28:36Speaker 3: some Kira tizauas of the world, So going to kind
- 28:39Speaker 3: of get them over, Like that's that's what the bottom
- 28:41Speaker 3: of your roster is for, is to be the filler
- 28:44Speaker 3: to sell their ass off for the big monsters, to
- 28:47Speaker 3: make them look even more impressive. So it's to me,
- 28:50Speaker 3: it's just like it's almost like when they do some
- 28:52Speaker 3: that like that. The House of Black one really pissed
- 28:55Speaker 3: me off because I'm like, did somebody like not make
- 28:57Speaker 3: it to the venue in time and we just had
- 28:59Speaker 3: three guys and catering. We're like, hey, you guys got
- 29:01Speaker 3: there and fight House of Black real quick.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Uh.
- 29:04Speaker 3: It just it just doesn't make sense to me for
- 29:05Speaker 3: those guys Archer and Cage or as I saw Shane
- 29:09Speaker 3: Helms call them on Twitter, Cage against the Machine, which
- 29:14Speaker 3: I actually dug that name. I didn't mind that one,
- 29:17Speaker 3: but House that House of Black one was just just
- 29:19Speaker 3: ridiculous and there's no need for it.
- 29:22Speaker 2: You know what's wild is that AW was the ones
- 29:25Speaker 2: that put so much thought and effort from one show
- 29:27Speaker 2: to another back when it was just dynamite, And maybe
- 29:29Speaker 2: that's the case here. Do you think AW is just
- 29:32Speaker 2: overall creatively exhausted, Doctor Trey?
- 29:36Speaker 3: I think they have kind of spread themselves too thin
- 29:40Speaker 3: where there's not.
- 29:43Speaker 1: Kind of a direct building program.
- 29:45Speaker 3: You know, you see in w W you have NXC,
- 29:48Speaker 3: the guys get built at NXT, they come to the
- 29:49Speaker 3: main roster, they get a chance to establish themselves, see
- 29:52Speaker 3: if they're if they can get over. If they can, great,
- 29:55Speaker 3: we're gonna keep pushing you. If they can't get over, okay,
- 29:57Speaker 3: down to the you know, kind of the middle to
- 29:58Speaker 3: the bottom of the roster. There's not really like a
- 30:02Speaker 3: set roadmap for AW establishing talent. And then plus, when
- 30:07Speaker 3: you're putting guys on two and three different shows a week,
- 30:12Speaker 3: you're going to run out of stuff for them to
- 30:14Speaker 3: do a times that you know makes sense and keeps
- 30:17Speaker 3: the creative fresh. Otherwise it's just you get kind of
- 30:20Speaker 3: burned out, Like Okay, well, House of Black has been
- 30:23Speaker 3: all over the map, you know, in their time on
- 30:26Speaker 3: the roster, they've been healed, they've been babyfaces. You had
- 30:28Speaker 3: the great stuff with you know, Anna Jay and oh
- 30:33Speaker 3: what's her name?
- 30:35Speaker 1: Sky sky Blue?
- 30:36Speaker 3: That was that was some fun stuff, you know, not
- 30:38Speaker 3: Hannah Ja, it was sky Blue and Julia Hart.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Julia Hart.
- 30:42Speaker 3: Yeah, they have some great stuff there and then they
- 30:45Speaker 3: kind of it's kind of falling off the map. And
- 30:46Speaker 3: then you see one week you see Brody King fighting
- 30:48Speaker 3: with Darby Allen and and shaking hands with him. But
- 30:51Speaker 3: then you know, Buddy Matthews and they comes down and
- 30:54Speaker 3: calls it Adam Cole, who's another baby face? Like, I
- 30:58Speaker 3: don't think they have a set game plan all the time.
- 31:00Speaker 3: Where I think that's where WWE is always ahead of them,
- 31:03Speaker 3: is that there's always a plan in place for stuff.
- 31:06Speaker 1: I think AAW's lacking in that foresight.
- 31:09Speaker 2: If you told us a month ago that Chris Stallion
- 31:11Speaker 2: or Adam Cole would be babyfaces on the AW roster,
- 31:14Speaker 2: I think we would have like been like, you're crazy.
- 31:17Speaker 2: But that's the world that we live in right now.
- 31:19Speaker 2: The amount of back and forth on babyface to heal,
- 31:23Speaker 2: Heal the babyface and no rhyme nor reason anymore. It's
- 31:27Speaker 2: like this really hokey, herky jerky type of creative. It's
- 31:32Speaker 2: been bad for aw really, it really has been bad.
- 31:36Speaker 2: And I like that they're acknowledging some things, but that's
- 31:40Speaker 2: like one thing you need to tighten up. There is
- 31:43Speaker 2: pleased and do not have any more squash matches on
- 31:48Speaker 2: your programming, Tony Kahn, sincerely, Jeff and Doctor Trey speaking
- 31:54Speaker 2: of storylines that are progressing rather well. Doctor Trey is
- 31:58Speaker 2: on SmackDown right now. Also carried It's over to Raw
- 32:01Speaker 2: on Monday. I wrote down this note after watching SmackDown
- 32:05Speaker 2: where I was like, Okay, I want to talk about
- 32:07Speaker 2: this on the show because as of right now it's
- 32:10Speaker 2: not making sense. And then Monday happen, I'm like, oh,
- 32:14Speaker 2: it's starting to make sense. I was going to sit
- 32:17Speaker 2: here and ask you does the Roman reigns Jimmy Uso
- 32:20Speaker 2: storyline with jay Uso make sense so far? And I
- 32:23Speaker 2: thought coming out of SmackDown really didn't because why would
- 32:28Speaker 2: jay Uso listen to his brother after they had a
- 32:32Speaker 2: few rustle Mania match Why would he give him the
- 32:36Speaker 2: time of day? And they have that backstage vignette with
- 32:39Speaker 2: Jimmy and Roman arriving to the arena where Jay smiles
- 32:43Speaker 2: at his brother, turns to Roman and straight face and
- 32:46Speaker 2: then Roman says, you know, we're all proud of you,
- 32:48Speaker 2: and you know, Jay says, no yeat and then walks away.
- 32:52Speaker 2: And he had a great segment with Solosaka to start
- 32:54Speaker 2: on the show, but it was like, why is Jay
- 32:58Speaker 2: involved at any point right now? Then you fast forward
- 33:01Speaker 2: to Monday and the New blood Line costs Jay Usa
- 33:03Speaker 2: the Intercontinental Championship, with bron Breaker now retaining that championship
- 33:07Speaker 2: for a second reign, and I'm like, oh, We're We're
- 33:10Speaker 2: getting somewhere right now. So I have answered my own
- 33:14Speaker 2: question here based on what we're seeing, but I want
- 33:17Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on this. From what we've seen
- 33:19Speaker 2: right now with Roman reigns, Jay Uso and Jimmy Usso,
- 33:22Speaker 2: is the storyline that is building towards some sort of
- 33:25Speaker 2: rekindling reunion of the original blood line to take on
- 33:29Speaker 2: the new blood line? Is it making sense so far
- 33:32Speaker 2: based on everything that got Jay Uso away from the
- 33:35Speaker 2: old blood line.
- 33:37Speaker 3: For me, not really, because I got the stuff on
- 33:41Speaker 3: SmackDown made sense to me, Like he.
- 33:43Speaker 1: Didn't really want to interact with his brother, you know
- 33:45Speaker 1: that much. He didn't want to be a part of it.
- 33:47Speaker 3: I didn't even understand why he was on the show
- 33:49Speaker 3: because he's the Interconinal champion on Raw, so why is
- 33:52Speaker 3: he on SmackDown?
- 33:52Speaker 1: So that bothered me.
- 33:55Speaker 3: The Solo stuff, I was like, Okay, I mean everybody
- 33:58Speaker 3: points out Jimmy and Jay are twin, but Solo is
- 34:00Speaker 3: his little brother. So I mean I could get why
- 34:04Speaker 3: he'd be torn, but then to come back on Raw
- 34:07Speaker 3: and have the new bloodline costs in the arcndent title
- 34:10Speaker 3: and that be the reason why he decides to join
- 34:13Speaker 3: back up with Rome and Jimmy doesn't make any sense
- 34:16Speaker 3: to me because then that means to me, the Intercontinental
- 34:19Speaker 3: title is more important to him than anybody in his family.
- 34:23Speaker 3: So I'm a little just off centered here with this,
- 34:28Speaker 3: Like it just doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
- 34:31Speaker 3: For Jaden, Now go, yeah, you know what they caused
- 34:34Speaker 3: me an oc intercondinalent title, so I'm back with you guys,
- 34:37Speaker 3: Like that just doesn't seem like a thing somebody would
- 34:41Speaker 3: do for family. You know, if he could say, if
- 34:45Speaker 3: he comes out and says, look, I'll help you guys,
- 34:47Speaker 3: because I owe them, but don't forget I owe you guys. Also,
- 34:50Speaker 3: if he does it like that, that'll hook.
- 34:53Speaker 1: Me a little bit better.
- 34:53Speaker 3: But if he just, you know, pretends like all is forgiven,
- 34:56Speaker 3: then I'm gonna have an issue with it.
- 34:58Speaker 2: So I get your points. And I think that this
- 35:01Speaker 2: is like the first storyline in WI in sometime where
- 35:04Speaker 2: there's a little bit of criticism that can go its
- 35:07Speaker 2: way because of the things that you're saying, because there
- 35:11Speaker 2: is part of me that's like, okay, I could see
- 35:13Speaker 2: it making sense, but there's part of me that's going,
- 35:16Speaker 2: why does Jay Uson want to integrate himself in this
- 35:19Speaker 2: entire thing? Like what's it matter to him? I would
- 35:23Speaker 2: have liked to see in a little bit of a
- 35:24Speaker 2: deeper build going to it. And I think I'm coming
- 35:27Speaker 2: from the position Doctor Tray. Today is October twenty fourth.
- 35:31Speaker 2: I'm thinking that this is leading towards wargames in about
- 35:34Speaker 2: a month's time. We've talked about this for some time,
- 35:35Speaker 2: and maybe I would have liked to seen a bit
- 35:37Speaker 2: of a little bit of a longer stretch here. Friday
- 35:40Speaker 2: SmackDown will be intriguing. If Roman Jimmy and Jay and
- 35:43Speaker 2: the new Bloodline are all there to see if this
- 35:45Speaker 2: carries forward again. If there is no pickup on SmackDown,
- 35:49Speaker 2: that'll be disappointing because okay, what was the point of Monday.
- 35:52Speaker 2: I tend to believe that there will be. I don't
- 35:56Speaker 2: know if they have enough time to try to convince
- 35:59Speaker 2: it one right now dot true, because I can't theoretically
- 36:03Speaker 2: think of a situation where I'm like, Okay, they got
- 36:07Speaker 2: me on this one, they got me on the Union.
- 36:10Speaker 2: I'm pumped, I'm psyched. This makes sense other than like,
- 36:14Speaker 2: and this is gonna sound so extremely lame, but I
- 36:17Speaker 2: guess Jimmy and Roman need to almost apologize to Jay
- 36:22Speaker 2: or maybe this brings back Paul Hayman. There has to
- 36:26Speaker 2: be some sort of acknowledgment that what took place previously
- 36:31Speaker 2: was a mistake. They made a mistake, and at the
- 36:33Speaker 2: end of the day, they're bonded by blood and they're
- 36:35Speaker 2: the original bloodline and they need to defend their families honor. Like,
- 36:39Speaker 2: I don't know if what I'm positioning you can get
- 36:41Speaker 2: us there. But this is some a little bit of
- 36:44Speaker 2: uncharted waters for WWE right now, because they've got a
- 36:47Speaker 2: storyline that fans can really you know, like you and
- 36:50Speaker 2: I criticize basically, so.
- 36:54Speaker 3: I got a little bit a fancy booking idea that might.
- 36:58Speaker 2: Let me ask you you have a jobber involved?
- 37:02Speaker 1: Uh kind of.
- 37:04Speaker 3: He did lose recently, so SmackDown comes out new blood
- 37:09Speaker 3: lines in the ring. Jay comes out by himself basically, hey,
- 37:14Speaker 3: you guys, coustmond your cons I don't I want some
- 37:17Speaker 3: revenge you know, I want to fight youah blah blah blah.
- 37:21Speaker 3: They'll basically say, hey, you know me and you know Solo,
- 37:24Speaker 3: me and Jacob or you me and Jacob Fato against
- 37:26Speaker 3: you and whoever you want to bring whoever you want
- 37:29Speaker 3: to be your partner, thinking that's gonna be Jimmy, think
- 37:31Speaker 3: it's gonna be Roman. Whatever goes backstage, Jimmy approaches him,
- 37:36Speaker 3: Jay's like, no, I don't need your help.
- 37:37Speaker 1: I got this.
- 37:38Speaker 3: I don't trust you guys that his mystery partner, Sammy's ain't.
- 37:42Speaker 3: So he gets Sammy and Jay against Solo and Jacob,
- 37:46Speaker 3: and then Sammy becomes the voice of reason and tells Jay, look,
- 37:49Speaker 3: at the end of the day, those two guys are
- 37:52Speaker 3: your family.
- 37:53Speaker 1: We need to patch this up.
- 37:55Speaker 3: And then that you kind of go from there where
- 37:57Speaker 3: it's Sammy and Jimmy or see me Sammy and Jay
- 38:01Speaker 3: kind of aligning with them early on, like kind of
- 38:05Speaker 3: rekilling the alignment with them, because Sammy's the voice of reason.
- 38:08Speaker 3: Sammy's the one who I mean, seriously, how many times
- 38:10Speaker 3: has Ko turned against him over the years and Sammy
- 38:12Speaker 3: Dewai always ends up forgiving him. So Sammy would be
- 38:14Speaker 3: the one to kind of pull all this back together
- 38:18Speaker 3: as the voice of reason because you know, he's still
- 38:22Speaker 3: the honorary OOZ true.
- 38:24Speaker 2: That is true. So I like it. I like that
- 38:27Speaker 2: there's some fantasy booking involved there. It's strange because this
- 38:32Speaker 2: is the Bloodline storyline has been so good, right Doctor Trey,
- 38:36Speaker 2: that the split that took place, whether it be Sammy,
- 38:40Speaker 2: whether it be Jay, Jay and Roman and Jimmy and
- 38:43Speaker 2: all this stuff, it made always made a ton of
- 38:45Speaker 2: sense getting them all back together, even when take back
- 38:48Speaker 2: one like Jimmy was the one that convinced Jay to
- 38:51Speaker 2: turn on the Bloodline and then Jimmy turned on Jay
- 38:53Speaker 2: and reunited with the blood Line. That was a part
- 38:56Speaker 2: of the Bloodline storyline that never really made a lot
- 38:59Speaker 2: of sense. And I think every time that there is
- 39:02Speaker 2: a rekindling or reunion. The fans will want to see it.
- 39:05Speaker 2: They will pop, they will go absolutely crazy. But from
- 39:08Speaker 2: a storyline perspective, I think we sometimes creatively puts themselves
- 39:12Speaker 2: in a corner where it's a little bit tough coming out.
- 39:14Speaker 3: Of Yeah, I mean, but at the end of the day,
- 39:18Speaker 3: like for us, nostalgic kind of wins out in the
- 39:23Speaker 3: sense of we want those We want see those four
- 39:25Speaker 3: guys back together at some points, so we'll suspend our
- 39:29Speaker 3: disbelief on the story just for the sake of the
- 39:32Speaker 3: good that comes out.
- 39:33Speaker 1: I mean, you know that.
- 39:34Speaker 2: What you just said reminds me of I hate to
- 39:36Speaker 2: cut you off. Go ahead, because I just saw this
- 39:38Speaker 2: recently online. I don't know if it was like an
- 39:40Speaker 2: anniversary of the moment or something like that, but from
- 39:43Speaker 2: like two thousand and two to two thousand and five,
- 39:46Speaker 2: Triple H and HBK had feuds back and forth over time.
- 39:51Speaker 2: On Monday Night Raw in two thousand and six, they
- 39:55Speaker 2: reunited as Degeneration X, and everybody didn't give a shit.
- 39:58Speaker 2: They didn't blink an eye because they wanted se DX reunited.
- 40:01Speaker 2: That's what this reminds me of. For what the example
- 40:03Speaker 2: you're trying to say were where it's like, yeah, we
- 40:05Speaker 2: forget all that. I love the nostalgic act.
- 40:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but they I think they kind of
- 40:10Speaker 3: reunited over their common enemy. Yeah, common enemy. And you
- 40:14Speaker 3: could kind of do the same thing here where the
- 40:15Speaker 3: enemy of my enemy is my friend, where Jay is
- 40:19Speaker 3: now an enemy of Solo, Roman and Jimmy are an
- 40:22Speaker 3: enemy of Solo. So you know, you kind of put
- 40:25Speaker 3: that in the riverw I mean, we saw that with
- 40:26Speaker 3: the nWo. We were front NW a lot with the BCC,
- 40:29Speaker 3: But how many times do we see you know, the
- 40:32Speaker 3: giants get kicked out and then rejoined.
- 40:34Speaker 1: I mean Randy.
- 40:36Speaker 3: Savage got turned on a bash at the beach and
- 40:39Speaker 3: never once came after really came after the nWo afterwards,
- 40:43Speaker 3: and just all of a sudden, he's like, huh, yeah,
- 40:44Speaker 3: I'm I'm team Hollywood.
- 40:46Speaker 1: That's fine.
- 40:47Speaker 3: You know the finger Poke of Doom reunited wolf Pack
- 40:51Speaker 3: in Hollywood. Yeah, I mean, we've but it was for
- 40:54Speaker 3: the sake of like, oh yeah, let's put the band
- 40:56Speaker 3: back together, so to speak. So we will suspend commons
- 41:00Speaker 3: and storytelling at times if it makes us feel.
- 41:02Speaker 1: Better about what we're seeing on TV.
- 41:04Speaker 3: So if you end up with Sammy and Jay against
- 41:09Speaker 3: say Toma, Tonga and Togolo for the SmackDown titles, and
- 41:12Speaker 3: you got Jimmy and Roman and Solo and Jacob going
- 41:15Speaker 3: at it. Well, then the four of those guys and
- 41:17Speaker 3: the four of those other guys they should all hate
- 41:19Speaker 3: each other and it kind of blends together, so there
- 41:21Speaker 3: are ways of kind of patchworking it. And then once
- 41:25Speaker 3: you get to war games, I mean, once again, the
- 41:28Speaker 3: ultimate trump card that nobody's referenced, Solo takes out Rakishi,
- 41:34Speaker 3: which then puts Jimmy and Jay back together to go
- 41:36Speaker 3: after the little brother for taking out their dad.
- 41:38Speaker 2: That would be interesting, That would be interesting.
- 41:40Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, tries me to peace maker between three boys.
- 41:45Speaker 1: And he did it for the Rock, Yeah, exactly.
- 41:48Speaker 2: Solo did it for the Rock, the Rock's final boss yep,
- 41:52Speaker 2: when he asked, why did you take out dad? I
- 41:54Speaker 2: did it for the Rock. That would be actually.
- 41:56Speaker 3: Money really for us, for us old guys, we would
- 41:59Speaker 3: all get it. The younger fans will be like, what, huh.
- 42:03Speaker 2: Did it for the Rock? You don't the entire thing
- 42:06Speaker 2: that as we're talking about this, something that just came
- 42:09Speaker 2: to my mind here is, you know, adding Jay adding
- 42:13Speaker 2: Sammy into the storyline. The thing that we're tending to
- 42:17Speaker 2: forget here is they don't they don't need this, Like
- 42:21Speaker 2: this is kind of beneath them. They're they're big stars
- 42:23Speaker 2: right now. Like is it a step back for Jay
- 42:27Speaker 2: and Sammy. Let's just talk about Jay because we don't
- 42:29Speaker 2: know about Samy, But is it a step back for
- 42:32Speaker 2: Jay to be involved in a storyline like this?
- 42:37Speaker 1: Character wise?
- 42:39Speaker 3: Probably a little bit, because I don't know if the
- 42:43Speaker 3: New I can't I haven't really been able to gauge,
- 42:47Speaker 3: like we knew when the og bloodline was over with
- 42:49Speaker 3: the fans, like we knew, like they're like the fans.
- 42:52Speaker 3: Everybody hated them, but they're still throw up the ones
- 42:55Speaker 3: you know you're over. Then, I don't know if people
- 42:59Speaker 3: look at the New bloodline and you can say they're
- 43:02Speaker 3: over with the audience like I think people I don't
- 43:06Speaker 3: know if people are if Solo's actually over with the
- 43:09Speaker 3: crowd has the top villain on the show. I think
- 43:13Speaker 3: people are fascinated by Jacob Fatu, which then makes it
- 43:16Speaker 3: hard to boo him because the dudes of freak athletes
- 43:20Speaker 3: and then Toma Tonga and Togoloa like for diehard fans. Yeah,
- 43:25Speaker 3: we know who the Girls and Destiny are. We know
- 43:26Speaker 3: what a great tag team they are. Does the WWE
- 43:30Speaker 3: audience understand what they have? I don't know if that
- 43:34Speaker 3: group is perceived on the same level as equal opposition
- 43:39Speaker 3: to it a reunited og bloodline would be, or even
- 43:42Speaker 3: Jay Uso on that level, because Jay, we know is
- 43:45Speaker 3: super of the fans because I mean, hell yea shirts
- 43:47Speaker 3: are like the number one or number two sellers on
- 43:50Speaker 3: WWE right now.
- 43:51Speaker 1: It's crazy.
- 43:51Speaker 3: So it probably is a step backwards, but for the
- 43:56Speaker 3: sake of elevating family, I think it's the right move
- 43:59Speaker 3: for him.
- 44:01Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting what storyline are you digging right now? The
- 44:04Speaker 2: most of professional wrestling.
- 44:09Speaker 3: Probably BCC just because the mystery involved as to who
- 44:12Speaker 3: the person is behind it.
- 44:14Speaker 2: Well, that's what we're assuming, right Yeah.
- 44:16Speaker 3: And then well, I mean he's still his his that's
- 44:19Speaker 3: our hope.
- 44:20Speaker 1: That's our hope. Uh.
- 44:22Speaker 3: And then he does have vague allusions to something somebody
- 44:25Speaker 3: else being involved.
- 44:28Speaker 2: Does he I can't tell? Sometimes with mox like, what
- 44:33Speaker 2: what the hell did he say? I mean, he's making
- 44:35Speaker 2: Lord love him and God rest his soul, is making
- 44:37Speaker 2: some of the Brave White Stuff look sound like something
- 44:39Speaker 2: I could follow.
- 44:41Speaker 3: I am intrigued now by by the way, you mentioned that,
- 44:44Speaker 3: I am intrigued by saying Final Testament why six.
- 44:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy they're back on TV.
- 44:49Speaker 3: Miss and Miss being a darker version of Miss, Like
- 44:53Speaker 3: it's kind of a weird thing. But I'm like, we've
- 44:56Speaker 3: never seen Mis go like but horror Hollywood.
- 44:59Speaker 2: But that and Xavier Wood stuff is really good.
- 45:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it.
- 45:04Speaker 3: Plus i mean how cool, like like when our Truth
- 45:06Speaker 3: by the way, I know we're kind of ex side step,
- 45:08Speaker 3: is our Truth coming out to help out the New Day.
- 45:10Speaker 3: I'm like, why have we ever seen our Truth with
- 45:13Speaker 3: the New Day? Like that just seems like a match
- 45:16Speaker 3: made in Heaven to put those guys together, because the
- 45:19Speaker 3: comedy from those guys will be great. But this new
- 45:22Speaker 3: dark Exavier Woods is still a cool twist. But yeah,
- 45:28Speaker 3: I'm really I just want Carrying Cross. I'm a big
- 45:31Speaker 3: Carrying Cross fan. I'm just wanting to see something good
- 45:34Speaker 3: for Carrying Cross. You know, like he really has anything,
- 45:36Speaker 3: had anything really good. He had the Strap few, the
- 45:39Speaker 3: Strap match with Drew McIntyre when he first came back.
- 45:42Speaker 3: Outside of that, the NXT run and really nothing else
- 45:45Speaker 3: has been really aviodated. But I love cultish type characters,
- 45:51Speaker 3: so I'm on board with this.
- 45:53Speaker 2: I thought you you were all on board with the
- 45:55Speaker 2: Gladiator costume carrying cross at one.
- 45:57Speaker 3: Time, only because I was hoping for a wardrobe malfunction
- 46:01Speaker 3: from him or Scarlett.
- 46:02Speaker 2: Interesting, fair enough, fair enough for me. It's it's the
- 46:05Speaker 2: Kevin Owen stuff. But that's I mean, that's easy. I'm
- 46:08Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, where is this going. The Kevin Owens,
- 46:10Speaker 2: Cody Roads, Randy Orton stuff right now, I think is
- 46:13Speaker 2: really good. And that's an offshoot of the stuff that
- 46:15Speaker 2: took place with the Bloodline. I'm like, this is a
- 46:18Speaker 2: little bit more modern day. We're really well thought out,
- 46:20Speaker 2: and I like how it's playing on television right now.
- 46:22Speaker 2: So that's that's mine. But that's probably because I'm a
- 46:25Speaker 2: huge Kevin Owens fan.
- 46:27Speaker 3: Wait, I was, as I was gonna ask you a
- 46:28Speaker 3: question by this, who does Randy who do we see
- 46:30Speaker 3: Randy Orton talk to on SmackDown this week to get
- 46:32Speaker 3: the Magic.
- 46:33Speaker 2: Crown jewel against Kevin Owens.
- 46:36Speaker 1: Yeah, because Nick All just said it's above me.
- 46:40Speaker 2: That's what he's talking about, right.
- 46:42Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what everybody thinks.
- 46:44Speaker 2: But who do you think you talk to, Sean Michaels.
- 46:47Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 46:48Speaker 3: That's the thing is like, do we see Triple H
- 46:50Speaker 3: on SmackDown and a Triple Ah Randy orton segments?
- 46:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I think yeah, that would be that would make sense.
- 46:58Speaker 2: I think that's who they were alluding to. It would
- 46:59Speaker 2: be really funny if it like, hey, can I have
- 47:01Speaker 2: this match and they like the camera pans and it's
- 47:05Speaker 2: it's it's I don't know, the returning Reggie or something.
- 47:09Speaker 1: They it's it's ak he goes to Stephanie instead.
- 47:14Speaker 2: M Yeah, they have they have a history. But I
- 47:16Speaker 2: thought that was I thought that basically was alluding to
- 47:18Speaker 2: Triple H.
- 47:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but I just I was just like,
- 47:22Speaker 3: but I mean, I know, we call him like, we
- 47:24Speaker 3: call him by his title on TV, but we haven't
- 47:27Speaker 3: seen him actually come out and make a match happen.
- 47:31Speaker 1: So that would be a different take on it.
- 47:33Speaker 3: That's so that's why I was wondering if they were
- 47:35Speaker 3: gonna go bra because I'll forget.
- 47:37Speaker 2: Well, they're playing it up as if it's a real
- 47:39Speaker 2: thing that they're banning, like Kevin Owens from being in
- 47:41Speaker 2: the arena and and doing these these videos even though
- 47:45Speaker 2: they did air the video on SmackDown.
- 47:47Speaker 3: Yeah, but and Ko is a Triple H guy, so
- 47:49Speaker 3: you know it's it's and everybod kind of knows that
- 47:52Speaker 3: because that was the first uh you know Triple H
- 47:55Speaker 3: really with the Triple H helping Ko win the title
- 47:58Speaker 3: overset that one time in the in the Fatal four
- 47:59Speaker 3: Way talking.
- 48:01Speaker 2: About Triple H sidebar here before we get into Halloween Havic.
- 48:04Speaker 2: Anybody ever think it's weird that they referred to him
- 48:06Speaker 2: on television now as Paul Triple H Levec.
- 48:09Speaker 3: It freaks me out with it when every time I
- 48:10Speaker 3: hear so you say, I gotta go talk to.
- 48:11Speaker 2: Paul, Yes, that that freaks me out because Triple H
- 48:15Speaker 2: means hunter Hurst Helmsley. So if it's the full name,
- 48:17Speaker 2: is he Paul hunter Hurst Helmsley Levec.
- 48:21Speaker 3: Which sounds so fancy, But then I gotta go talk
- 48:25Speaker 3: to Paul, I think and Hayman and Hangman, So it
- 48:29Speaker 3: throws me off every time.
- 48:31Speaker 2: It's the old school fan me. They're not like, here's
- 48:33Speaker 2: Mark the Undertaker Callaway, which, by the way, Undertaker interviewed
- 48:38Speaker 2: a former president.
- 48:40Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy.
- 48:41Speaker 2: What a world.
- 48:42Speaker 3: And by the way, nobody ever says, I gotta go
- 48:44Speaker 3: talk to Higginbotham.
- 48:45Speaker 2: True, Yeah, I gotta, I gotta go talk to Mike
- 48:48Speaker 2: who Michael hbk Hickebottom here he is? Uh? Or yeah? What?
- 48:55Speaker 2: I don't even know what Booker T's real name is,
- 48:57Speaker 2: so Booker you're right, yeah, Booker T. Huffman.
- 49:02Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I think I think it's a Booker T. Huffman.
- 49:04Speaker 2: You know, it's just little things are driving nuts, like
- 49:07Speaker 2: Lexus King can't be known as Brian Pillman, Charlie Dempsey
- 49:11Speaker 2: can't be known as Charlie Regal, but we're gonna call
- 49:15Speaker 2: Paul triple h Levec.
- 49:17Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, but Saban and Shelley get to keep
- 49:19Speaker 1: their names.
- 49:20Speaker 2: Yeah, they do everything. They get to keep everything. Which
- 49:23Speaker 2: any thoughts there? Do you like the the tagline on
- 49:26Speaker 2: their on their Titan Tron of rat a tat tat sure?
- 49:32Speaker 2: I mean what what, I don't know. I'm happy for them.
- 49:36Speaker 2: This is this is great. I mean, these this is
- 49:38Speaker 2: long overdue that they got the opportunity in this position,
- 49:41Speaker 2: and it's it's it's got me excited for the Tag
- 49:44Speaker 2: team division at least on SmackDown. But yeah, I mean
- 49:48Speaker 2: they're they're getting a lot of pub on on a
- 49:51Speaker 2: return and on coming to w w A and rightfully
- 49:54Speaker 2: so I'm digging at Doctor Trey.
- 49:55Speaker 1: I thought the crowd reaction though, was really light.
- 50:01Speaker 2: I mean, they're not like extremely well known.
- 50:04Speaker 1: Right, yeah, did they have I can't remember.
- 50:07Speaker 2: I know they should have done vignettes like explaining who
- 50:10Speaker 2: they were beforehand, I think, but and not just the
- 50:13Speaker 2: weird video did that didn't show them at all?
- 50:16Speaker 1: Like show some you can get TNA to give you
- 50:18Speaker 1: some highlights.
- 50:19Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely you can, especially with the relationship right now.
- 50:22Speaker 3: So but I know we had the American Wolves in
- 50:26Speaker 3: NXT did like one time? Did we get I thought
- 50:32Speaker 3: there was another tag team that they fought like the
- 50:34Speaker 3: week but like because who was who was the champion
- 50:36Speaker 3: of the time?
- 50:37Speaker 2: Was that time splitters out of match or two because
- 50:41Speaker 2: Shelley did?
- 50:42Speaker 1: Who did? Who did? Who was it that the Wolves wrestled?
- 50:45Speaker 3: There was uh Connor and Victor the Ascension?
- 50:50Speaker 1: The Ascension.
- 50:51Speaker 3: I thought there was another tag team at the time
- 50:53Speaker 3: that they had the week before.
- 50:56Speaker 2: I know the Brisco has got a couple of dark matches.
- 51:00Speaker 3: Sworn it was the it was MotorCity. I thought Motorsman
- 51:02Speaker 3: Machina has had one match in NXC beforehand.
- 51:05Speaker 2: No Shelley wrestled with Kashida. I don't believe Saban ever
- 51:08Speaker 2: wrestled in w A.
- 51:10Speaker 3: All right, but either way, like, I'm happy for them.
- 51:12Speaker 3: I'm glad they're getting the chance. I'm looking forward to
- 51:14Speaker 3: seeing them in d I Y because that should be
- 51:16Speaker 3: a hell of a tag match. That's a borderline dream
- 51:18Speaker 3: tag match, so that'll be really, really, really fun.
- 51:21Speaker 2: But uh, you've got a lot of talented tag teams
- 51:25Speaker 2: starting utilizing them, like Anderson and Gallows are on there, Dall.
- 51:31Speaker 3: Mysterio and Dragon lead team up in the number one
- 51:34Speaker 3: Contenders tournament because they've never seen before, but they should
- 51:36Speaker 3: be number one contenders.
- 51:37Speaker 2: I hope that that's leaning towards war Raiders Doctor Try.
- 51:41Speaker 1: I am too, so I'm not gonna lie.
- 51:43Speaker 2: Lots of good stuff, And I'll just add one more
- 51:45Speaker 2: thing on the MotorCity machine guns, because we talked about
- 51:47Speaker 2: AW at the top of the show. I do think
- 51:48Speaker 2: it does speak some volumes here, that MotorCity machine guns.
- 51:53Speaker 2: I mean, it just seemed like a foregone conclusion. We
- 51:55Speaker 2: go to a w Stephanie Vakor went to we those
- 52:00Speaker 2: some things that, like people are noticing that maybe my
- 52:02Speaker 2: career isn't going to be as postful in AW as
- 52:04Speaker 2: it would be in WWA.
- 52:06Speaker 3: Well, I still think for a lot of wrestlers, especially
- 52:11Speaker 3: longer term like longer tenured wrestlers and wrestlers from overseas,
- 52:16Speaker 3: WW is still the place to go. Like, it's still
- 52:18Speaker 3: the dream to have a wrestle media match. So somebody
- 52:22Speaker 3: like Stephanie Vaccor who grew up watching ww and what
- 52:24Speaker 3: grew up watching WRESTLEMDIA has it and hurt like lursy
- 52:28Speaker 3: machine guns. I mean, those kids grew up on WWE,
- 52:31Speaker 3: so it makes a lot of sense the younger kids,
- 52:33Speaker 3: maybe AW.
- 52:34Speaker 1: Is the place for them to go. But to me,
- 52:35Speaker 1: it's like if.
- 52:36Speaker 3: You're a tenured veteran and you're like, man, I got
- 52:39Speaker 3: one less good run in me, I gotta take my
- 52:41Speaker 3: shot at WWE.
- 52:43Speaker 2: Yeah. These are two guys in their forties and they've
- 52:45Speaker 2: been wrestling for over twenty years and here they are
- 52:48Speaker 2: finally making their shot in w WA. Modersoton machine guns.
- 52:52Speaker 2: Let's preven predicted NXC Halloween Havoc taking place to Sunday
- 52:55Speaker 2: from the Giants Center in Hershey, Pennsylvania. First match on
- 52:57Speaker 2: the car here, Doctor Trey's an ambulance match against Ridge
- 53:00Speaker 2: Holland and Andre Chase. This is a hard one to pick,
- 53:03Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go with Andre Chase because Chase h
- 53:05Speaker 2: has just been destroyed by Ridge Hall in the last
- 53:07Speaker 2: two to three months.
- 53:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm taking Andre Chase as well.
- 53:09Speaker 3: I just feel like you'll see, you know, something like
- 53:12Speaker 3: Duke will be driving the ambulance and you'll see, uh
- 53:15Speaker 3: thea Hale in a nurse's outfit. I just the ambulance
- 53:19Speaker 3: match means like anything goes kind of thing, So I
- 53:22Speaker 3: can see Chase Young getting involved to all get their revenge.
- 53:24Speaker 2: On Ridge Holland. Chase Young from the New Orleans Saints Young,
- 53:28Speaker 2: I mean Andre Chase.
- 53:29Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, Chase Young. I've I've been playing a lot
- 53:31Speaker 3: of football on my on my PS five, so yeah.
- 53:33Speaker 2: Yeah, he could definitely spear like bron Breaker does Calonne
- 53:37Speaker 2: Jordan defense against either Fallon Henley, Jacy Jane or Jasmine
- 53:40Speaker 2: Nicks in a Spinner's Choice match for the NXC Women's
- 53:44Speaker 2: North American Championship, Doctor Trey, who do you like in
- 53:46Speaker 2: this one?
- 53:47Speaker 3: I got momentarily confused when I saw Spinner's Choice because
- 53:50Speaker 3: I was like, wait, are we putting the spinner on
- 53:52Speaker 3: the North American title for the women?
- 53:53Speaker 1: Like that would be horrible.
- 53:56Speaker 2: They just and it's just that I a jeweler. They
- 53:58Speaker 2: just pick which spinner they select. That's the match.
- 54:02Speaker 3: I'm taking Kilani because I think I don't know what
- 54:05Speaker 3: her new name is, but her old name was Delta.
- 54:07Speaker 1: I think she gets involved to help her out in
- 54:09Speaker 1: this match.
- 54:10Speaker 2: I'm going to go with Fallon Henley. I think you
- 54:12Speaker 2: gotta do some with this. Is it Fatal Attraction that's
- 54:15Speaker 2: their tag name now, yeah, trio name. I'm going to
- 54:18Speaker 2: go with Fallon Henley in this one because I think
- 54:20Speaker 2: they could use a little bit of some firepower for
- 54:24Speaker 2: their group moving forward. So Doc Tray is Kolanie. I'm
- 54:26Speaker 2: gonna go with Fallon Henley to be the winner in
- 54:28Speaker 2: this one. Next match is Roxane Perez and Cora Jay
- 54:31Speaker 2: taking on Julia and Stephanie vakor Doctor Trey. Who do
- 54:34Speaker 2: you like in this one?
- 54:35Speaker 3: I guess Julia and Stephanie vack Or just because of
- 54:38Speaker 3: the tag match, the titles and not on the line, so
- 54:40Speaker 3: I think they can afford to get a win to
- 54:41Speaker 3: kind of boost them up. This is gonna be fun though,
- 54:43Speaker 3: because I'm really interesting how this Korra Roxan thing works out,
- 54:46Speaker 3: because if I remember correctly, they were partners and then
- 54:51Speaker 3: feuded and then kind of made up and then got hurt.
- 54:54Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say Julia and Stephanie Bucker though, because.
- 54:58Speaker 1: They kind of need the win to kind of pump
- 55:00Speaker 1: them up.
- 55:01Speaker 2: I like you, I'm gonna take Julian stephaniebau Chorus as well.
- 55:04Speaker 2: Tony D'Angelo defends the NX North American Championship against Obafemi
- 55:08Speaker 2: and a tables, ladders and scares match. Uh, this is
- 55:11Speaker 2: a tough one to call. I'm gonna go with Obafemi
- 55:13Speaker 2: in this one, Doctor Trey.
- 55:16Speaker 1: Uh.
- 55:17Speaker 3: I think I'm taking Tony d to retain, and I
- 55:20Speaker 3: think you see Obafemi move up to the heavyweight title
- 55:23Speaker 3: in the next month or two.
- 55:24Speaker 2: And then finally the Devil's Playground match for the NXC Championship,
- 55:27Speaker 2: Trick Williams defense against Ethan Page. I'm gonna go with
- 55:30Speaker 2: Trick Williams.
- 55:31Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with Trick Altar because I think Trick
- 55:33Speaker 3: and Oba is the next big feud for Trick, So
- 55:35Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Trick retaining.
- 55:36Speaker 2: So there you go. We will recap and review NXC
- 55:39Speaker 2: Halloween Havoc on next week's edition of this show, and
- 55:43Speaker 2: we'll get you ready for Halloween and also w W
- 55:46Speaker 2: Crown Jewel, right, Doctor Trey. That's next weekend.
- 55:50Speaker 3: Yeah, see, next weekend, I'll be in Tennessee with the
- 55:52Speaker 3: family for Halloween and then Crown Jewel'll be the Saturday
- 55:55Speaker 3: I'm driving back.
- 55:56Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So we'll be preview and predicting
- 55:58Speaker 2: Crown Jewel, recap, being in reviewing NXD Halloween Havoc, and
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